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The problem here is that this whole corona virus is being used in such a way to push a agenda, if you will. I personally think the spreading of this virus was deliberate, but that's besides the point. Yes, it is obvious that shutting down
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The problem here is that this whore corona virus is being used in such a way to push a agenda, if you will. I personally think the spreading of this virus was deliberate, but that's besides the point. Yes, it is obvious that shutting down
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Reportedly, more people have the virus in the state of Florida than in the entire country of Mexico. 385,000 to 425,000 cases about. Look up the numbers of each if you don’t believe me. Wile those numbers probably aren’t exact and not 100%
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Reportedly, more people have the virus in the state of Florida than in the entire country of Mexico. 385,000 to 425,000 cases about. Look it up if you don’t believe me. Wile those numbers probably aren’t exact and not 100% accurate, the
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Accman, basically what you're saying is that you'll be part of the solution, maybe, if either 1. someone makes you do it by making it law or 2. someone else does all the work for you. This still doesn't get you off the hook.To use your
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People have to do their part though too. If you can stay home, you probably should. If you're going to be out in public around people and can wear a mask, you probably should. Any arguments involving surveillance this or government control
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jade, that mask I tried was on securely, and was not flopping around at all. No, I didn't do this just to try and find data that would prove a point either. that was not actually my goal. Rather, I was merely attempting to really get an
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It's true that shutting down and reopening and will lead to more inevitable spikes. And noone has really addressed that in this long thread of an argument, far as I know. The only thing people seem to be able to say is that this will be the
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I'm starting to see reports of health experts calling for another shutdown. I wondered if it might go like this. We do a shutdown for a couple of months, reopen, cases spike, we shut everything down for a couple months, we reopen, cases
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Accman, a few points of interest:1. Are you absolutely sure that your mask was on right-side up? Some masks fit better when worn one way over the other.2. Are you sure that you wore the mask tightly enough? There's a reason why most masks
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Jade, I actually did just get back from almost a half and hour stroll while wearing one of these masks I'll honestly admit I had not tried it before, so I figured I would do it just to see how well it worked. I noticed one big problem with
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Accman, I've said before and will say again: your anger, your frustration, is perfectly understandable. I am fortunate in that this pandemic didn't ruin my career. I pointed out to you that I don't think it ruined yours either, honestly,
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Jade, I simply do not go out and wander about like a fool just to make a point of standing against some regulations I don't agree with. The extent of my going out at all now is to go for a walk, go to get the mail, and go to get groceries
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1. You missed the point entirely. My point wasn't that I don't have enough time to repeat myself. I clearly do, though I wish it were otherwise sometimes. My point is that you do too, yet you don't have the time to admit you fucked up. Good
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Ethan, I am not asking for a hundred percent guarantee that I won't get the virus or be able to spread it. I never said that, so please do not make it look like I did. I would never advocate that idea because I know there is no one hundred
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Turtlepower, I feel like your post was very well thought out and necessitates its own reply. I didn't want it lost in the Accman mess.Put bluntly, I think you're about 95% right. For instance, physical distancing is a much, much better
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Accman, let me address a few things real quick.1. You have enough time to repeatedly whine about how you're being guilt tripped, even after I've said multiple times that I'm no longer interested in actually changing your mind. You have
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Accman, let me address a few things real quick.1. You have enough time to repeatedly whine about how you're being guilt tripped, even after I've said multiple times that I'm no longer interested in actually changing your mind. You have
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The negativity is created by our friends in the mainstream media. People sit at home watching the news and tell other people to hide under the bed. How will we progress in the future if this is the logic we use?
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I think I'll look into those cotton masks, it makes sense that they would be more breathable and probably a bit more comfortable. I, too, wear ones that are a heavier material, and they can get rather annoying at times.I agree with the
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@819, what steps, exactly, are you taking to be safe that are supposedly safer than wearing a mask? Proper hygiene, perhaps? Well, guess what, that only protects you from getting the virus through your sense of touch. It doesn't protect you
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There you go again, Enes. I stated very clearly that I can't be a disease vector since I am not really out and about all that much. I do not see much of the rest of my family in other states right now because of these regulations, and while
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oh my god akman! seriously can you seriously be so dense? Jayde theoretically might be a virus vector, which is entirely possible. But unlike you, he said he was wearing a mask, and taking precausions to limit harm to others. What you
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Nolan, if you look at all of those past pandemics like the one you mentioned in your post, you'll find that as bad as it was we didn't shut down everything over it. People were made of much tougher stuff back then and actually didn't choose
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If anyone wants an example of a coronavirus cluster fuck, look at Brazil and what approach their President took.
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It's not funny, it's typical. This thread has been an absolute clinic for how to dismantle right-wing attacks on the Covid-19 pandemic, and on the wearing of masks, and on conspiracy theories, bad science and cherry-picked data, if I do say
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It's not funny, it's typical. This thread has been an absolute clinic for how to dismantle right-wing attacks on the Covid-19 pandemic, and on the wearing of masks, and on conspiracy theories, bad science and cherry-picked data, if I do say
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Funny that Accmin didn’t acknowledge his argument about hypocrisy in Washington being Nullified
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Oh another thing about the economy. I bet the economy can't handle hundreds thousands of people being in the hospital and dieing iether. So the current climate the virus will still have a huge impact.
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Thumbs up, Nolan.I know this is a shit-show, and I hate it. I hate that it's even a discussion. But it is, so here I am, and here I will remain.Re: echolocation: yes, masks do screw with that a little bit. It didn't mess me up too much, but
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Can't believe I'm stepping into this shitpile.OK, 3 things:1. To those of you saying "we weathered past pandemics just fine, why not this one?" Look up the infection/death toll of the 1918 flu pandemic. Absolutely staggering. A third of the
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He won't think about what he's saying though. He wants to exercise his freedom and call it responsibility. He wants to exercise his right to be a disease vector because no one around him has been sick yet; this totally discounts the idea of
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@777. I guess I live in comunist china then, because most of the laws suggested by Enes was suggested here. Masks in taxis, vehicles at half capacity, mandating masks in all public places, the police has the power to shutdown any business
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Jade, the I won't state the reasons why I am coming across the way I have been because I've already made myself clear on that. All I will say is the following. You do what you have to do to stay safe, and I'll do what I have to do in order
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Admittedly, the mask I have is not cotton. It's a slightly heavier material and it does blow my breath back at me a bit. I suspect that if I were to wear it all day, it might become unpleasant. It was very mildly unpleasant by the end of
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Jayde, I think we could do better than that budget. If the united states alone matched the R budget to the military budget, that would probably be enough for the whole world, in about 5 years, there would be no disease that wasn't fully
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@803, sorry.I'mnot fully inline with your opinions.I do believe in wearing masks, at least temporarily, because countries like Taiwan have drastically cut down their cases because of masks. But I am not ok with the idea of them becoming
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@803, sorry.I'mnot fully inline with your opinions.I do believe in wearing masks, at least temporarily, because countries like Taiwan have drastically cut down their cases because of masks. But I am not ok with the idea of them becoming
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Accman, remember what I said. Every time you try and stand up for yourself on this subject, I will be here to discredit you. If you go quiet, I will not bother you or chase you. Go do what you're gonna do, but stop telling us about it.
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Accman, remember what I said. Every time you try and stand up for yourself on this subject, I will be here to discredit you. If you go quiet, I will not bother you or chase you. Go do what you're gonna do, but stop telling us about it.
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Accman, remember what I said. Every time you try and stand up for yourself on this subject, I will be here to discredit you. If you go quiet, I will not bother you or chase you. Go do what you're gonna do, but stop telling us about it.
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Jade, if you want the evidence, go do what you tell so many on the forum to do and look it up for yourself. That's what Google is for. Take the time, and go look it up.This one instance I was mentioning refers to the mayor of Washington,
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So Akman seriously stop stop stop. You are totally clueless to what I am saying. I never denied vaccenes produce emunity, where ever you got that statement I have no idea.I agree with Jayde here with regards to the continuation of current
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AssaultFreak, there comes a point in every period of social evolution where the group in question says, in essence, "Okay, this idea is going to yield better results, so let's stick with it". We absolutely have survived prior pandemics, I
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All three are strains of the same virus, so no, I think they are very much equally qualifiable. Both were declared pandemics, though on a smaller scale, and both died down eventually. So yes, that question does respectfully remain on the
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Accman, you're looking at someone (metaphorically speaking) who walks the walk as well as talking the talk. You have also as yet not provided any meaningful evidence that lawmakers are exempt from rules about the wearing of masks. The one
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So, you won't accept either form of herd immunity, a scientific process that has worked many, many times before. Do you propose that we continue to put our lives on hold for what could, or might, be? I for one have had it with taking losses
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A valid question, and the answer I have right now is that I don't know.It's important to take those two off the table though...or, at the very, very least, to heavily qualify their inclusion in the discussion. Neither of them is as
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A valid question, and the answer I have right now is that I don't know.It's important to take those two off the table though...or, at the very, very least, to heavily qualify their inclusion in the discussion. Neither of them is as
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I just have one question. What will happen if, like SARS and MERS, we never find a vaccine? Should we never return things to normal and stop wearing masks?
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Enes, don't worry. I'm well aware that infecting a pile of people doesn't actually guarantee anything. This is all the more reason to play it reasonably safe while we work on getting vaccines and/or other methods of control in place. But
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This is not true Akman. When I said herd emunity, I was refering to the practice of deliberately infecting people with the full virus regardless of consiquences to develop emunity, not vaccination, which in many cases doesn't use even a
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Enes, I mean absolutely no offense here when I say what follows, and I just want to be clear on that. You say that herd immunity is not a scientific process. I then have to ask you how you 'd feel about the use of vaccinations. You see,
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Okay...so no, no, and no.First of all, lockdowns aren't really what's being put on the table right now. It's the wearing of masks. Stop deflecting.Full lockdowns are crippling, but part of the reason they needed to happen was because of the
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Okay...so no, no, and no.First of all, lockdowns aren't really what's being put on the table right now. It's the wearing of masks. Stop deflecting.Full lockdowns are crippling, but part of the reason they needed to happen was because of the
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Okay...so no, no, and no.First of all, lockdowns aren't really what's being put on the table right now. It's the wearing of masks. Stop deflecting.Full lockdowns are crippling, but part of the reason they needed to happen was because of the
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Herd emunity isn't a scientific process. There is no evidence that lasting emunity is achieved with coronavirus infection, through several studies that I posted to the topic, and several that I didn't. Your idea of herd emunity is to kill
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Herd emunity isn't a scientific process. Your idea of herd emunity is to kill off basicly at least several million of the population, so you can keep getting your check. That is selfishness to the core. The truth of the matter is, mask
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Okay, so what will we say to all of this when these regulations are likely still in place after the next three to six months? How long are we to put up with this crap? It was originally for a couple weeks when this began, and I knew right
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Woman throws food in grocery store after being asked wear a maskhttps://youtu.be/tZQXoZRO7FMArizona ‘Karen’ with ‘$40,000 Rolex’ trashes face mask display in Target | New York Posthttps://youtu.be/30mL1FoyImgFlorida residents reject face
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Akman, what you fail to realize, if that if people followed mask guidelines, and actually used them, there wouldn't be spikes of cases, and there wouldn't be a need for another lockdown. Right now in some states with the crazy numbers,
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Accman, I'll actually engage with your last post, because it doesn't just throw out hatred for leftists and conspiracy/pseudoscience nonsense.1. Defunt the policeThis doesn't mean taking -all of their money, or even most of it, but money
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We still have our issues with Covid, and the re-opening has led to a spike in cases in some places. We're not out of the woods yet, by any means. But yeah, in general, us Canadians are more willing to listen to reason because it's not so
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There you go again, taking it to the extreme. I do not view any regulation as evil. I am saying, for the umpteenth time, that I don't go along with this because of all the double-standards. What about that is so hard to understand? It is
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I agree with wearing masks in all public indoor places, with respect to people's homes. I'm just clarifying because I saw a petition that said require masks universally and I thought the petition was far too vague (plus, I don't want people
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777, you calling me selfish, is like the teapot calling the kettle black. Taking regulatory action to protect people who are too dumb to protect themselves is far from selfish. You also seem to take the very distinctly right wing
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Canlorn, nice post. I wanted someone else to comment on how Accman is having to backpedal all the time so that it didn't look like a personal issue. It isn't. Seriously. I've been just as ferocious with plenty of other people.You're tired
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Damnit, Accman, its not about outright preventing you from being infected. Its about lowering the chance you'll get it. Masks may prevent it -- there's no "they do" or "they don't" on this matter. They "may do". You cannot view everything
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I know, that what I've been thinking lately whenever I tune into the news.
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What the actual fuck?
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Camlorn, I've tried the mask before, and there is no way I'll ever wear one again, not for anyone who would force me to do so against my will at any rate. It is scientifically proven that they will not prevent the spread of this thing just
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kjsisco, that has to be one of the best posts I've seen on this. We need to use our heads and practice common sense.Enes, the type of nation you would be in charge of is more on par with something like Venezuela, or possibly China. I don't
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@775There is precedence in the U.S. for those sorts of laws. I'm not super informed on it--it was, fortunately, a little bit before my time--but we did all that sort of thing with HIV, and have only recently started taking it off the
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Ok 773, you perfectly demonstrate how inhumanly selfish and self centered society has become. You know what? I don't give a shit if you kill yourself, or injure yourself because of your crazy worldviews. But you should not have the right
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Ok 773, you perfectly demonstrate how inhumanly selfish and self centered society has become. You know what? I don't give a shit if you kill yourself, or injure yourself because of your crazy worldviews. But you should not have the right
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This virus is bad but the media is doing nothing but pumping fear into people. Use your brain and you'll live. The world is changing each day and all we can do is hang in there.
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No, Jade, what I said regarding Ethan's understanding of that article of not short-sighted in the least. Influenza, and COVID-19, are both viruses. They are both smaller in size than the pores in your masks. Thus, it is logical that
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Accman, I challenge you to answer me one simple question. If you can do it in a manner consistent with sound argument, I'll let you alone.Here's my question.If masks are completely ineffective at dealing with Covid-19, why do areas where
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Accman, I challenge you to answer me one simple question. If you can do it in a manner consistent with sound argument, I'll let you alone.Here's my question.If masks are completely ineffective at dealing with Covid-19, why do areas where
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Ethan, I know it is not a strain of Influenza. You missed the point of that article entirely. It was trying to show, through the various studies that were mentioned, that if the masks didn't work in those cases they would be just as
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I don't even have to read the link now. Thanks, Ethin. You demolished it for me.Let me get this straight though. A dude who doesn't know or won't acknowledge the difference between an influenza virus and a coronavirus is purporting to
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@768, you seem to be under the illusion that COVID-19 is a strain of influenza. Its definitely not. Look at the title of your article -- "Nonpharmaceutical Measures for Pandemic Influenza in Nonhealthcare Settings—Personal Protective and
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The only reason you think you're hearing that "bottom of the barrel scratch" is because you're conditioned to look for it. But, enough of all that.Hear is something I stumbled across that will explain why I refuse to wear a mask. It will
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It's not inconsistent, actually. They aren't going into Canada. They're playing all of their games in a minor league stadium in America precisely because they can't go to and fro across the boarder. While in Canada, the quarantine measures
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It's not inconsistent, actually. They aren't going into Canada. They're playing all of their games in a minor league stadium in America precisely because they can't go to and fro across the boarder. While in Canada, the quarantine measures
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It's not inconsistent, actually. They aren't going into Canada. They're playing all of their games in a minor league stadium in America precisely because they can't go to and fro across the boarder. Our government decided that not only do
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Oh, another thing I just found out. I already new that the Toronto Bluejays were not allowed to play in their home stadium this year due to the regulations in Canada in regards to COVID-19. I know Canada has closed off its borders to
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@Accman Sources?
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Well, we have more double-standards it looks like. I am not sure where the baseball game was last night, but I know that Anthony Fauci, I refuse to refer to that fool as a doctor, was in attendance and actually threw the first pitch. He
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JayJay, that's why our own borders are closed, particularly to Americans. We don't want to make our problems even worse. It's also why the Blue Jays won't play baseball in Toronto this year.Also, cool stuff about Scotia Bank and RBC in your
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LOL. Most places in the Caribbean are straight up placing bans on American arrivals, because in places like Jamaica the bulk of their cases are coming in from the states. Meanwhile in Trinidad we got our first local case in months. Yep. I
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Eh, I'm darkly realizing how selfish people tend to be during this outbreak. It seems most people don't realize how much of a derp they are until they catch the virus themselves and get put through the ringer After that enlightening
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Maybe you wore a different type of mask than what I tried, but the one I tried cut that sense by at least 50 to 60 percent, and that is only because I was wearing it properly. Until I see the double-standards in all of this disappear, then
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Can confirm re: you can still smell things. Wore a mask two ways in a cab, put it on before the vehicle arrived. My sense of smell was operating at approximately 90% of normal. It got a little warm, but nothing I couldn't handle. This is a
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A few fun facts:First, I'm ridiculously proud of my dad and stepmother at the moment. My dad is sixty-one, my stepmother fifty-five. Both of them grumble about the wearing of masks, but both of them do it anyway. My stepmother cleans
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I couldn't agree more with the last post. It sucks we've gotten to the point where we have to, at least on some level, tell people what to do with their bodies, but guess what, it should have been fucking common sense to wear a mask in
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Sadly, it would be lovely if we didn't need this to be forced into law. I agree with you there. But like so many other things where we're being asked to consider the common good more than we wanted to, requests failed so now it has to be
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in my state it has been made a legal mandate that you have to wear masks or you won't receive service in public businesses. Of course the attourney general is suing our governor for that, which means he's lost my vote.I'm not really for the
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A vaccine for this type of virus is more difficult to make.The pandemic status means that a rush toward approval for a vaccine may make it less clinically proven before it gets released.I understand completely if people don't want to rush
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@Jayde Well said I agree for those who have good immunity/Herd immunity, can deal with virus very easily. In and around of my area, nobody is afraid of this although they keep safety around them. The organisations mainly WHO says only
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