Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Interesting purple stuff on the pages
Hello Isabella, I applaud your work. Tish On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 10:27 AM, Isabella Baltar myportuguese...@gmail.com wrote: I went to Terceira for two reasons, one to do research on my family and the second one, where I spent most of my time, was to help the BPARAH on the conservation of their archives and library. Unfortunately, only one room of the library has humidity control (for the rare docs and books) otherwise all the windows are open. The worst on this situation, besides the lack of money, is that, believe me, there is no acid free paper on the market in Portugal. Such a basic thing here in US, where you find everywhere. So, it took me and Marcolino Candeias, the director of BPARAH, a lot of time trying to find a source of acid free paper and conservation material in Portugal and we didn't find, we even talked with Torre do Tombo conservators. The only solution is: everything must be imported and the burocracy instead of helping just makes things worst. It is very sad. Next time I go to Terceira, maybe later this year, I will take with me conservation material for them to use. A donation for BPARAH and I hope to get people to help me on that. Isabella Baltar myportuguesegen.blogspot.com On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 12:58:17 PM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote: The only mold I've seen has been black. The mildew is brown. I know it's humid there. The old archive in Ponta Delgada had no humidity control. They just opened the window! The newer archive has central air and is most likely humidity controlled. I can't remember what the archive was like in Angra. Never been to the one in Horta. All the ones in America are central air with humidity control. Never knew it could turn purple though! Interesting to know! Thanks, Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree Maker Merging
I like Cheri's answer about Bugs Bunny. Do a few others with some sort of flag of the same name but different information, too. I would do it with two bogus files myself, Bugs and Mickey Mouse. On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 11:01 PM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks I will try that. On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 10:46 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Pam S, I'm not sure about FTM. I take the other file and import it as it's own file/family/project. After making sure the data entry is the same as mine, I save it again. Then I go to File Import and it asks if I want to merge that file with my own. Somewhat over simplistic. You can make a file/family/project with one obvious person (Bugs Bunny) and try a merge with him. That way, you only have to delete one person if you don't do the import right. On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 10:41 PM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.comwrote: Is it possible to merge one file into another Tree or file? I have been doing a friend of mines genealogy (azores) she connects to my kids. In other words I do not want to have to manually type in 68 pages of ancestors. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Made a mistake and can't figure how to fix it
First of all I would use something different. That is a hard program to work with. I would try the TMG8 forum. Did you have a back-up before you tried to merge your two people? Whenever I am trying something, and I am unsure of what the results will be, I try it on a small portion of names (like Cheri said not too long ago, Bugs Bunny etc.). I also will copy a small portion of my file to another file that I usually name test. I only work with the test file and my made up names. If it works to my satisfaction, I cross my fingers and go for it on my main genealogy file. That said, I would use the same method to see what happens when start deleting a few kids and siblings. If it works as you expect it to you can then do it to your genealogy file. If I am not making sense but you think I understand your problem, feel free to contact me personally. On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 8:59 AM, blackice...@comcast.net wrote: Hi everyone, I need some help. I'm using TMG8 and I have made a mistake and I can't figure how to fix it. I have merged two people and I don't think they are the same ones. There isn't a lot of info , a few kids and siblings. I'm worried if I start deleting I might run into a larger problem. Can anyone guide me on how to correct this Thanks Pat Mello Storm coming , more snow.:( -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Santa Bárbara up and running
The freguesia for Santa Bárbara in Santa Maria on CCA is up and running! Enjoy, Tish -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Santa Bárbara up and running
Thought you wanted Santa Maria! On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 12:42 PM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote: I hope they add Ribeira Grande once they are done with Santa Maria On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 9:28 AM, Tish M tish.me...@gmail.com wrote: The freguesia for Santa Bárbara in Santa Maria on CCA is up and running! Enjoy, Tish -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Added to Azores GenWeb.......
One more thanks to Al and Kathy. Now that we are getting all the CCA's online this is a real help. Tish On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 9:37 AM, Kathy Cardoza kmacard...@me.com wrote: You're very welcome, Rosemarie. I know that I sure wish I'd had it way back then, lol. Kathy Sent from my iPad ~~~ Visit the Azores GenWeb Project: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~azrwgw/ ~~~ On Mar 22, 2014, at 9:33 AM, rcapodc rcap...@redshift.com wrote: Well, I'm going to try this again--Thanks Kathy for putting Al's list on the GenWeb site. It will be great for us all, especially the newbies to Portuguese Genealogy! A Big thank you to Al for doing all the work of putting the list together! Rosemarie *From:* Kathy Cardoza kmacard...@me.com *Sent:* Saturday, March 22, 2014 7:59 AM *To:* Azores Google Group azores@googlegroups.com *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Added to Azores GenWeb... I have aded the compiled lists of Al Ramos to the Azores GenWeb site. These are the Name Abbreviations and Evolution of Spellings and can be found on this page: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~azrwgw/portuguese_word_list1.html Thank you to Al for all his effort in putting these together and his willingness to share them! Kathy -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] there is no DE Something surnames in portuguese
Hi Cheri and Ricardo, My story is similar to Cheri's. My parents both worked so I spend a great deal of time with my grandparents who immigrated the early 1900's. My grandfather came via Santa Maria, Bermuda, back to Santa Maria for his bride, and then to California. He and his brother kept the name de Figueiredo. My grandparents didn't speak or write when they came, but at least one of their father's did, at least enough to be able to spell their name correctly (I believe it was probably my grandmother). They came to California because she had an uncle who lived there and got my grandfather a job. He spoke better English because he was in the work force, but my grandmother went to school to become a citizen. I remember helping my grandfather study for his driving test. Since he could not read or write they just tested his ability to know the traffic signs. Somehow he always passed! I have seen records of my great uncle listed as D Figueiredo instead of de Figueiredo and some listed correctly. To say the least the name is often mispelled. My grandparents spoke in English to me, but I am sure they spoke Portuguese to each other. When I first got interested in genealogy and trying to learn a little Portuguese I felt much like Cheri's father (it was familar). I took Spanish in high school but never was enamored with the language. I wonder how it would have been if Portuguese had been offered. My Bermuda cousins all dropped the de Figueiredo and used Soares which has been quite a problem for me, but it doesn't seem to matter to them. They also Anglicized all of the names. José became Joe, João became John etc. My grandfather did use Ben instead of Bernardino and I found out my grandmother used Bertha sometimes, however I never knew her as anything but Bernardina. The Bermudians also use St. Michael, St. Mary, and St. George. So... it just depends on your relatives. I guess my point is there is no right and wrong. Just as language changes so do names. I try to keep the names as Portuguese names and then write notes as to the changes that obviously occurred. Tish On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Ricardo Chaves chave...@gmail.com wrote: There you go Chery, you and your sister were some of the lucky ones! That's why I said Some families. Also in your longer paragraph you reinforce what I said as another possible reason LIFE reasons! That example of moms in the kitchen and cupid lol, is perfectly understandable. Don't forget also the ones who somehow faced their hard life in Azores 200 years ago as something to forget and so they did. The De/Da/Do here normally are associated to surnames, da Ponte, de Andrade or d'Andrade, etc. But you can also see them in Maria da Conceição, Olinda de Jesus, etc. These make more sense connecting names than surnames, but then, and again, its all part of our in-heritage and the way things were 100, 200, 300 and more years ago. Its changing nowadays Cheri. I myself did it with my son. No DOS OR DAS for you buddy, simple short name but still maintain his mom and dad last names. About West coast and East coast, by the way, RI is where the majority of my CHAVES live, I don't know. What I know is that if we are talking about genealogy, as you just said, names have to be Portuguese or you wont be able to go anywhere with it! If not, Azorean descendents want to Americanize their names or their origin country names, fine by me! Also, I have proof of this, not everyone, specially individuals like me, who live here, my age, interested in deep roots research, my family is huge, and as far as I know, there are only a couple with some curiosity and none really into it. And when you really dedicate some passion into this you can go far, really far. You can also be considered crazy. On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 5:18 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Ricardo C, You made lots of points. Let me try to address some of them. Why does de Souza become DeSouza? Why did the trumpet in high school band have the last name Vandewater? I'm sure it was van de Water. All I know is that in school, the computer programs that creates the roll sheets capitalize the first letter of the last name, because everyone knows that your name is capitalized. As to the removal of the space, maybe it doesn't accept spaces? I've even have kids with hyphenated names and it wouldn't take the hyphen. I don't know if the programmers do the same thing in the courts and the Department of Motor Vehicle registration, but they may. I'm guessing it just probably comes from an egocentric view going back when people in America were named Jones, Smith, and Brown, before we had so many immigrants. However, I can write up list for the 100% Portuguese band director and I will write José de Sousa and he will type up and print out José DeSousa. However, he is American born and does not study genealogy. And you can't explain surnames and presurnames to him. He already knows
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] List membership, posts, researchers for hire, DNA fundraising
To Cheri and Doug, I don't usually respond to this type of mail, but I feel compelled to add a different perspective. My husband and I started working on my genealogy in 2007. Since I am a big user of the internet I went on line and started looking at any and every lead to my Azorean genealogies. One of the first sites I found was yours, Doug. It sounded very promising, but then as I looked further... nothing was ever added. You suggested we submit photos that you said you would post... but none other than yours seemed to make it on your pages (I sent photos of my great grandparents but never found them on your site). As I continued my researching I found the Azores GenWeb page which I found very useful. You, of course, were on there, but I found more sites also. I found a whole community who were willing to help new interested people find their ancestors. To me, that is what Cheri and others have done on this this site. For the most part, we are simply people interested in our genealogy and we have a common interest, the Azores. The help that I have received on this site is invaluable. Although I have only met a handful of the listers on this site, I consider many my friends. Doug, for you to expound your expertise in such a way that all others should revere your wisdom is beyond the scope of this site. I believe we on a whole, enjoy the camaraderie of our heritage and like the people of the Azores, enjoy the Saudades of the Islands. Tish On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 9:14 PM, p...@dholmes.com wrote: Cheri, Since you wrote this to the entire list, I'll respond in the same way. Of all the people I recently met after my posting about Pico and Terceira ancestors, I will let them speak up if they want. There is not one single one of them that has a single thing to object to. Since I won't violate their privacy, I'll encourage them to either write and respond on this list or to you privately. That will be all the speaking I need to do on my behalf. As to DNA fund raising, there is probably no one better qualified to do the research for Pico and Terceira than myself. It's because of how I approach the subject. Unlike all the published genealogists who pick particular lines that interest them, which tend to be the wealthiest or most famous, I try and do include everyone. Even slaves, expostos, etc, into my database and for this reason it's the most complete in the world. So taking a person's line from the most recent to the most distant is often just a few minutes, because I might have done the research years ago. And so using this to my advantage, I can selectively find ancestral lines from end of the line to present day with the end goal of getting a person to do the test, at the same time furthering my knowledge of these people from Pico and Terceira that I have devoted myself to for over two decades so far. Frankly, I am probably your biggest promoter of DNA testing and it's really amazing you find something to gripe about. But I suppose when you had a bad day recently and acted like a school master telling a child to do this or that and I didn't play your game, that was the last thing you said to me until now. By the way, most of those who wrote me said they didn't have much to contribute, but enjoy what I write about. One said they didn't know why but you filtered their message and prevented their question from being asked. So I'm am helping that person myself. It would not surprise me if after this message hits the list (IF you let it hit the list) that you unsubscribe me. I already started participating less because of your attitude. But it's your list that you started when the old Rootsweb Azores List was taken over by some guy that started to act similarly to what you are now doing. So it would not surprise me if this marks the beginning of the decline here. But I think the decent folks on the list don't want to witness what you are trying to create with me. As for me, I won't comment again about this, even if you insist. Doug da Rocha Holmes Sacramento, California Pico Terceira Genealogist 916-550-1618 www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] List membership, posts, researchers for hire, DNA fundraising From: Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com Date: Sat, May 17, 2014 8:22 pm To: Azores Genealogy Azores@googlegroups.com Doug, I've posted from time to time how many subscribers are on this list. Anyone can find that number by going out to the Web board/Forum board and clicking the About link. The only reason I mention it is to make people aware that they are emailing 1200 people, some of whom are still working or have limited time on their hands. The list is active with genealogy posts (sometimes 20 in a day) and I would like the posts to be meaningful for the 1200 subscribers. Reading a single post that says Thanks! is imposing on people's time and is not meaningful nor helpful in someone's
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] List membership, posts, researchers for hire, DNA fundraising
João, Well said, and well ended. Tish On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 1:10 AM, João Ventura j...@venturas.org wrote: Wow, This is the classical definition of a flame war.. Usually no one wins, and everyone loses. So I'd invite everyone to step back, count to 10, and really decide if they want to kindle this fire. I've only good things to say about Cheri, and this list really works, so I can only praise what steps she felt she needed to take over the years. From Doug, I've had a few private conversations, but as my family doesn't have many ancestors in Pico or Terceira, frankly it never bothered me, that he doesn't share back. I do know that Doug will at some point try to sell his book on Pico and Terceira, so I understand why he doesn't want to do it. Personally, I do not believe in walled gardens: information is out there, and should be shared back in the same spirit it was shared by the CCA and the LDS church. What I don't understand is the hostility towards his gift. Maybe it's a Trojan horse, but maybe it isn't. Knowing that he just recently announced it, I'm sure no one can say yet. Now for the disclaimer. I'm also a lurker. I'll pipe in from time to time on subjects related to the Flores island. Usually I'll recommend that people buy an ebook on those posts. It's not my book. Why do I care? I've got two personal reasons: 1) It was me that encouraged the author to publish that as an ebook; and 2) I'm very interested that he continues to publish other books as ebooks - because my research will improve if he does. In my defense, I do have to say that whoever does research in those islands NEEDS to have that book. It's simply stupid to search for marriages in the parish books, when you have a perfectly good index to 99% of all marriages in those islands since 1675 to 1910. (Yes, there are flaws, which book doesn't?). However, when it's relevant, I'll post the links to the roots of my family Flores ancestors, where all my research is public. I also have a website that I'll promote here from time to time (and always in my sig), in which I do have a financial interest. I can tell you it's mostly to have it pay for itself, and again you'll never pay for anything in tombo.pt, as I only give back in another (hopefully better) package what the LDS church, the CCA and the other 20+ archives in Portugal have given us for free. In that spirit when my site detects something new, I'll come here and announce with a link to my site and to the CCA, unless someone has announced it before. João Ventura http://tombo.pt/en On Sunday, 18 May 2014 06:14:57 UTC+2, Doug da Rocha Holmes wrote: Cheri, Since you wrote this to the entire list, I'll respond in the same way. Of all the people I recently met after my posting about Pico and Terceira ancestors, I will let them speak up if they want. There is not one single one of them that has a single thing to object to. Since I won't violate their privacy, I'll encourage them to either write and respond on this list or to you privately. That will be all the speaking I need to do on my behalf. As to DNA fund raising, there is probably no one better qualified to do the research for Pico and Terceira than myself. It's because of how I approach the subject. Unlike all the published genealogists who pick particular lines that interest them, which tend to be the wealthiest or most famous, I try and do include everyone. Even slaves, expostos, etc, into my database and for this reason it's the most complete in the world. So taking a person's line from the most recent to the most distant is often just a few minutes, because I might have done the research years ago. And so using this to my advantage, I can selectively find ancestral lines from end of the line to present day with the end goal of getting a person to do the test, at the same time furthering my knowledge of these people from Pico and Terceira that I have devoted myself to for over two decades so far. Frankly, I am probably your biggest promoter of DNA testing and it's really amazing you find something to gripe about. But I suppose when you had a bad day recently and acted like a school master telling a child to do this or that and I didn't play your game, that was the last thing you said to me until now. By the way, most of those who wrote me said they didn't have much to contribute, but enjoy what I write about. One said they didn't know why but you filtered their message and prevented their question from being asked. So I'm am helping that person myself. It would not surprise me if after this message hits the list (IF you let it hit the list) that you unsubscribe me. I already started participating less because of your attitude. But it's your list that you started when the old Rootsweb Azores List was taken over by some guy that started to act similarly to what you are now doing. So it would not surprise me if this marks the beginning of the
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Free lecture on Azores-Portugal research
Hi, I have had contact with Ralph F Severson before at the Oakland familysearch library and he is truly a very good researcher and instructor. Any one in the Santa Cruz area would be richly rewarded by going to his lecture. Tish On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 6:36 AM, jt judy...@charter.net wrote: Hi Emily, Thx for the info. Finally something close to home to attend! Judy On Sunday, May 18, 2014 6:38:40 PM UTC-7, Emily Martin wrote: Hi Just thought anyone in the Santa Cruz area may be interested in the following free lecture on Azores-Portugal family research June 26th 2014 1pm at the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints 220 Elk street Santa Cruz Guest speaker: Ralph F Severson To be discussed: Brief history of Portugal Portuguese naming traditions Tracing your Portuguese ancestors in California back to the old. Country A primer on reading records in Portuguese. Ralph is the current director of the Oakland familysearch library where he is the primary instructor for classes. If you have a laptop, please bring it. For more information call the Santa Cruz family history center at 831-426-1078. Emily Martin -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Please Crosscheck Marriage Record July 1712
Joseph, Very nice translation. These are the translations that help us non speaking, reading Portuguese learn to translate for ourselves. Also, thank you to many of our translators who have done the same. Best to all, Tish On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 6:30 AM, Herb herbandj...@verizon.net wrote: Hello Dano and thank you for your review. Interesting that the priest spelled his first name as Joseph rather than Joze or Jose. I don't think I have seen this spelling before. Herb -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Child of Anacleto de Arruda and Maria da Natividad SM Vila Franca do Campo
I believe it's a girl. Look at all the a's (they all have tails). The o's have no tails. The first two letters are a mystery. If I had to guess, I would say Flara, but I have never heard that name. Maybe Flora? Looks like you will have to find a marriage... if possible. Tish On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 10:18 AM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 6:28 AM, celso95316 via Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com wrote: Hi There You could be right, but it looks like to me that it is a boy (filho). It could be Flavio or Claro-my guess. Celso Anacleto -Original Message- From: Shirley Allegre shir...@digitalpath.net To: azores azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Fri, May 2, 2014 5:48 pm Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Child of Anacleto de Arruda and Maria da Natividad SM Vila Franca do Campo It kind of looks like Clara. Shirley in CA - Original Message - From: Pam Santos To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 8:43 PM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Child of Anacleto de Arruda and Maria da Natividad SM Vila Franca do Campo Need another set of eyes to see if anyone can decipher the name of child for the above couple, Its on Top left page http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG- VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1751-1758/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1751-1758_item1/P107.html -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Matris de Santa Catharina?
Kathy, It's been a while since I have looked at Azores GenWeb. You have done a great job of keeping it up to date. Tish On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 9:32 AM, Kathy Cardoza kmacard...@me.com wrote: Just an FYI to all, the Azores GenWeb has maps for each island and the info about each parish here at: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~azrwgw/maps.html A quick look at the page for Sao Jorge and you would see that Santa Catharina is in Calheta as someone else said. This can be a great resource to answer these types of questions for you. Kathy Sent from my iPad ~~~ Visit the Azores GenWeb Project: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~azrwgw/ ~~~ On May 24, 2014, at 9:03 AM, aportugee via Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com wrote: Hi Margaret; Thanks for your response. If I’m understanding you correctly then, the information “being born in the Matris of Santa Catharina on Sao Jorge” isn’t telling me what freguesia to look in? i.e. Riberia Seca, etc.? Thanks again, Sam Sent from Windows Mail *From:* Margaret Vicente margaretvice...@gmail.com *Sent:* Saturday, May 24, 2014 11:47 AM *To:* azores azores@googlegroups.com Hi Sam, Freguesia de Santa Catarina. The Matriz means Centre of Calheta a place from where all things originate with jurisdiction over the other localities, freguesia is interpreted as Parish in the district (Concelho) of Calheta. On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 10:39 AM, aportugee via Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com wrote: Help please, I need the expertize of the group. If someone is said to have been born in 1774 in the Matris of Santa Catharina on Sao Jorge, Azores; which fregueisa (sp) should I look for her in? Just in case anyone has my 3rd great grandmother is in anyone else’s tree, I’m looking for the birth of Isabela Silveira d’Azevedo daughter of Manuel Silveira Machado and Maria Silveira Neto. Thanks in advance for you help, Sam (currently in Asheville, NC) Sent from Windows Mail -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Margaret M Vicente -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Brother's Keeper genealogy program
Doug Maybe you could use this site, Doug. http://hungarian.typeit.org Then just copy and paste. Tish On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 1:36 PM, John Vasconcelos gfsjo...@gmail.com wrote: Doug and Antonio, I second all you've said. I've been using Brother's Keeper since the late 90's for two reasons. 1.) Accents and 2.) It supports a Portuguese language option. John Vasconcelos On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 11:56 AM, p...@dholmes.com wrote: Wow, Antonio. You will love the upgrades since version 5. It's also more stable on the newer computers. I've been using v7 all day today and there are only minor changes I have noticed from version 6. I think the main improvement is at the background level, the code, which makes it stable. It probably became an issue because of the newer operating systems like the new Windows. The creator of the program is also great to deal with. He always listens to suggestions and helps with any problems. And I believe the biggest strength was at the beginning when people from many languages could use it in their own language. Maybe that's what you are doing. I used to have a German version, but don't bother with that anymore. I started with PAF the first few years and didn't like the lack of accents back then. Brother's Keeper was way ahead of it with just about any accents. I still can't make a certain Hungarian character with an accent over the O, but I'm OK with that. Doug da Rocha Holmes Sacramento, California Pico Terceira Genealogist 916-550-1618 www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Brother's Keeper genealogy program From: Antonio Roque roqueantonioro...@gmail.com Date: Sat, May 31, 2014 8:22 pm To: azores@googlegroups.com I do like Brother's Keeper, have had it for many years and never upgraded it. I believe I do have v5 On Saturday, May 31, 2014 11:07:41 PM UTC-4, Doug da Rocha Holmes wrote: Another list member mentioned that there is a new release of Brother's Keeper (v.7) which I hadn't yet noticed. They were having trouble with reading their data files from the previous version. So in case there are others using Brother's Keeper, I can help you to read those files. I just got it installed and it seems to look exactly like the older version - just as good as ever. It's a free trial and you actually get the full version with the option to send in your registration. But if you never do pay them, you still have a full working version. I believe the term is share ware, but maybe not. Google for Brother's Keeper 7 to download it. Write me here for any help you need with it: pi...@dholmes.com But if you are first trying it out, there is no need to convert older version data files. You might instead have to make a gedcom from any currently used genealogy program. If you are starting from scratch, just install and go for it. I've been using this program for 18 years. I have tried many others, but always stuck with this one. Doug da Rocha Holmes Sacramento, California Pico Terceira Genealogist 916-550-1618 www.dholmes.com -- -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Brother's Keeper genealogy program
Too bad. Back to the drawing boards. Since I use Apple I'm really not much help. Tish On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 9:54 PM, p...@dholmes.com wrote: Tried it, Tish, but it doesn't work. o The above O is what I got when I paste the character into my program, which is two characters instead of one. It looks good on the website, but can't work in the genealogy program, even though it shows correctly in this email: ő So I suppose for many programs it works, like an email or browser, but there must be something incompatible between the USA keyboard and the HU keyboard. So I will probably keep using the o-umlaut instead of the o-double acute. Thanks for trying, though. Doug da Rocha Holmes Sacramento, California Pico Terceira Genealogist 916-550-1618 www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Brother's Keeper genealogy program From: Tish M tish.me...@gmail.com Date: Sun, June 01, 2014 1:54 pm To: azores@googlegroups.com azores@googlegroups.com Doug Maybe you could use this site, Doug. http://hungarian.typeit.org Then just copy and paste. Tish -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help: Isle de Santa Maria (Figueiredo, Resendes, Soares)
Shirley, I like the succinct manner you reported in this baptism. Everyone could learn from this. I also like the way Margaret Vicente reports some of the nuances only a native understands. Tish Meals On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 4:38 PM, Shirley Allegre shir...@digitalpath.net wrote: Sam: This is how I read it: Maria (Joam Soares Figueire X Francisca Jacintha) natives this parochial, residents Norte ___. PATERNAL Jose Soares X DONA Isabel de Conceipcam natives this parochial MATERNAL Antonio de Rezendes Paiva, native Apostle San Pedro, this island X Antonio de Sam Jose, native this same freguesia BORN 14 February 1806 baptised 20 same month. GODFATHER Jose Francisco de Rezendes, married GODMOTHER Francisca Jacintha, daughter of the family of Bernardo Soares, resident Norte Foram. TESTIMONY Jose Francisco de Morais Mauricio Jose Figueirido Hope this helps. Shirley in CA - Original Message - *From:* aportugee via Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com *To:* Azores Group azores@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Friday, June 27, 2014 2:46 PM *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help: Isle de Santa Maria (Figueiredo, Resendes, Soares) Help please, left page. I believe this is the Feb 14, 1806 baptism of my 2nd great grandmother; Maria daughter of Joam Soares Figueiredo and Francisca Jacintha de Resendes. Paternal grandparents being: Jose Soares de Sousa and Dona Isabela Figueiredo and maternal grandparents: Antonio de Resendes Paiva and Antonia de Sao Jose. There is much that I can’t make out in this one. Any and all help is much appreciated. Thanks in advance, Sam (currently in NC) http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SANTABARBARA-B-1801-1822/SMA-VP-SANTABARBARA-B-1801-1822_item1/P44.html Sent from Windows Mail -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help, mom's name
Cheri, I agree with you,born on the 15 Aug 1819, baptized on the 17 Aug 1819, but the preceding page is 1827 which is between 1825-1839. Who knows what the priest was thinking. Tish On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 9:36 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Eddie M, I think mom is Ritta Victorina (modern: Rita Vitorina). I swear I'm reading born 15 Aug 1819. The book is for 1825-1839. Someone else better take a look. They could have baptized the child much later. It happens on occasion. I can't quite get the baptism date because of the word above crashing into it. I'd guess 17 or 18 of the same month and year (Aug 1819 - if I have that right). More eyes are need to confirm that year please! Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Hi Sam
Good detective work. I know you are aware this is my line. As you go through the records you will find more brothers and sisters. Have you ever tried to get in touch with Helen Kerner Cunha? I know we are related, but she is reluctent to put her tree on ftDNA. Tish -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Posting Family Tree on Family Tree DNA
Rick, Very well written. I too, do not understand the reluctancy of a majority of the ftDNA population. I hope we can at least get the Azores DNA Project members to see the value of the Family Trees. Tish On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 4:48 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote: *One of the most frustration things in Genetic Genealogy is having a match with a person and not being able to look for a common connection because no tree is posted on Family Tree DNA and all efforts to contact the match are fruitless. I have two 2nd Cousin matches and have tried numerous times and have had no response from them.* *When you post a tree on Family Tree DNA who can see it. If you believe that it is available to every and anyone who wants to look at it you are mistaken. The only person that can see the tree is someone that has a match with you or the project administrator. Another misconception on posting a tree on Family Tree DNA is that all your information is made available Only the basic information is posted such as Name, birth date and place, and death date and place. That is not much information but it is enough to find a common match. The other thing people are reluctant to display is any information on living persons. It is a matter of personal preference but anyone that knows how to use the inter net can find that information if they want. Any match with me can look at my GEDCOM on Family Tree DNA and see my birthday and place.* *If you have not posted your Family Tree Please Consider it even a partial tree is better than no tree.* *If you need help any of the Family Tree DNA Azores Project administrators can and most gladly assist any Azores DNA Project members.* *Rick* *Family Tree DNA Co-Administrator Azores DNA Project* *Azores DNA Project Co-Administrators* *All unpaid volunteers * *Cheri Mello – gfsche...@gmail.com gfsche...@gmail.com * *Rick Pimentel – rickredle...@gmail.com rickredle...@gmail.com * *Nancy Jean Baptista - fishsongf...@hotmail.com fishsongf...@hotmail.com* *Kalani Mondoy - mamoah...@gmail.com mamoah...@gmail.com * -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] mtDNA a Sampling of Crypto-Jewish descendents in North East Portugal district of Braganca
I tested my mtDNA and I am the only H7 out in the Atlantic Ocean. I traced my mother back to the 1600's. Obviously many more must take the test (big on the many) before matches will show conclusive results. Maybe when the testing becomes a less expensive, more will take the test. On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 3:48 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Antonio, Yes, that is how mtDNA works. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] mtDNA a Sampling of Crypto-Jewish descendents in North East Portugal district of Braganca
Cheri, I agree $200 is not a bad price, but I think for many, it's over the top for what it provides. I still think Family Finder will give people the most hits for their money at this point. On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 6:43 PM, A Faria antoniof1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Ricardo You match my father Manuel Faria through family finder. On Sunday, August 3, 2014 5:19:30 PM UTC-7, Ricardo Costa de Oliveira wrote: Salve I have an Azorean H1ao1 mtDNA lineage from Ilha Terceira, Ribeirinha and Porto Judeu. My HVR1 motif is 16262T,16278T,16519C I am lucky because I have an extremely rare HVR1 motif. My only FTDNA match is a family in California, USA, an immigrant from the same Parish (Paróquia) from Terceira Island, Azores, Portugal, that my mtDNA line came to Rio de Janeiro in 1857. (Mito/ Y Search; 2CUZQ) There are also two matches from Sorenson Molecular Genealogy Foundation, both from Brazil: One from Porto Belo, Santa Catarina, a region with a strong Azorean colonization. Melania T. DA CRUZ b. 1902 Porto Belo, Santa Catarina, Brazil Another one from Rio de Janeiro, unfortunately no name or contact was given I found the same two HVR1 mutations listed in 2 cases (unknown names, not mentioned) from Terceira Island as Haplogroup H 16262 16278 in the following scientific article: Mitochondrial DNA patterns in the Macaronesia islands: Variation within and among archipelagos. Santos et al 2010. H1ao1 - 3630 years estimate - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/ pmc/articles/PMC3322232/bin/mmc1.pdf FTDNA – H1ao1 FMS matches - HVR1, HVR2, AND CODING REGION MATCHES Genetic Distance 2 - Germany Genetic Distance 3 - Ireland and Spain (Valladolid) I suppose my H1ao1 mtDNA originated in Iberia (Catholic, Old Christian from the Reconquista) and went to the Azores with the first Povoadores where the 16262T mutation occurred, so that’s an exclusive Azorean motif related to the Atlantic expansion of the Portuguese Empire in Ilha Terceira and in Brazil. Ricardo -- *De:* gfsc...@gmail.com *Enviada:* Domingo, 3 de Agosto de 2014 15:48 *Para:* azo...@googlegroups.com *Assunto:* [AZORES-Genealogy] mtDNA a Sampling of Crypto-Jewish descendents in North East Portugal district of Braganca Antonio, Yes, that is how mtDNA works. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com http://../../../undefined/compose?to=azores. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] 2 Joao Venturas: Joao Ventura versus Joao C. Ventura
João (Computer)... just never change your photo, or if you do, make a big deal of it :) Tish On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 12:59 AM, João Ventura j...@venturas.org wrote: Yes, I also get confused from time to time :) I dropped the 'C' part in my sig, but the sig always includes the link to the tombo site. Joao Ventura http://tombo.pt/en On Tuesday, 5 August 2014 05:46:51 UTC+2, Cheri Mello wrote: Edna, Think of Joao C. as Joao Computers. He does the computer stuff, like builds a Web site to crawl the CCA site. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] What is the first Name?
Funny, Cheri. On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 11:27 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Mara, Is that Portuguese for Wenceslas? Cheri On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 11:09 AM, Margaret Vicente margaretvice...@gmail.com wrote: It is Vanceslau (Vanceslao) On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote: *The first name of the groom is a new one to me. What is it? Thanks in advance.* *http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1812-1828/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1812-1828_item1/P198.html http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1812-1828/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1812-1828_item1/P198.html Right side.* *Rick* *Richard Francis Pimentel* *Epping, NH* -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Margaret M Vicente -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Estrela, Casamentos 1839-1853 for Bernardino Jose de Andrade Escolstica Maria
Just a small question, Paul. Why did you say Santa Maria. This record is from São Miguel. On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 4:00 PM, Margaret Vicente margaretvice...@gmail.com wrote: Got it. That was common. On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 2:18 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote: *Yes I realize the name is Florinda Angelica on the records I linked. It is on the marriage record of Escolastica that Florinda de Jesus is written. With names like Florinda and Escolastica not being very common and the two of them together I believe the in the marriage record of Escolastica and the Baptism of Escolastica which I linked are in fact the same person.* *Rick* *Richard Francis Pimentel* *Epping, NH* *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Margaret Vicente *Sent:* Sunday, August 17, 2014 12:51 PM *To:* azores *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Estrela, Casamentos 1839-1853 for Bernardino Jose de Andrade Escolstica Maria Rick, both records, Mother reads as Florinda Angelica Margaret On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote: *I read the parents as Jose Silva and Florinda de Jesus. She is from NS Estrela.* *I believe the mothers name was actually Florinda Angelica but on the marriage record was changed to de Jesus.* *This looks like the Baptism of Escolastica. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-B-1818-1821/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-B-1818-1821_item1/P74.html http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-B-1818-1821/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-B-1818-1821_item1/P74.html * *This looks like the Parents of Escolastica Maria marriage http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1799-1812/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1799-1812_item1/P124.html http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1799-1812/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1799-1812_item1/P124.html * *Rick* *Richard Francis Pimentel* *Epping, NH* *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Paul *Sent:* Sunday, August 17, 2014 4:51 AM *To:* azores@googlegroups.com *Cc:* shir...@digitalpath.net *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Estrela, Casamentos 1839-1853 for Bernardino Jose de Andrade Escolstica Maria Hi Shirley, Does the casamentos happen to mention where Escoalstica Maria was baptised? Paul G. On Thursday, August 14, 2014 1:20:50 PM UTC-4, Shirley Allegre wrote: This is what it looks like to me: Bernardino Jose de Andrade X Escolastica Maria do Espirito Santo 28 Dec 1840 Matriz of Senhora da Estrella, village of Ribeira Grande Bernardo Jose de Andrade, age 21, baptised Senhora da Asumpcao, village of Porto, island of Santa Maria (Joze Ignacio de Andrade X Barbara Jacinta) SPOUSE Escolastica Maria do Espirito Santo, age 20 (Joze da Silveira, deceased X Florinda de Jesus) That is the best that I can do. Shirley in CA - Original Message - *From:* Paul *To:* azo...@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, August 14, 2014 1:24 AM *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Estrela, Casamentos 1839-1853 for Bernardino Jose de Andrade Escolstica Maria Hello, Would someone be so kind and translate this casamentos of my GGG grandparents Bernardino Jose de Andrade Escolastica Maria do Espirito Santo. Parents are Joao Ignacio de Andrade Barbara Jacintha, and Jose da Silva Florinda de Jesus. I believe the year is 1840 (but not 100% sure). The link is below record on the left page. Looks like Bernardino was baptised in Porto da ?, not sure if ink bled through from previous page, Santa Maria. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1839-1853/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1839-1853_item1/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1839-1853_JPG/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1839-1853_0022.jpg Thanks, Paul G. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] 6.0 Earthquake in California
Biggest earthquake I have ever felt, but not the same feel as the 1989 quake. Deni and I felt like someone had picked up our house, shook it side to side about 8 times and then put it back down calmly. No damage, not even anything misplaced (and we live ten miles east of the epicenter). Very consider ourselves very lucky, Tish and Deni On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 11:35 AM, Karen Huffman karen.huffl...@gmail.com wrote: Cheri just so you know I've been in Morgan Hill with family stuff. It is south of San Jose. Considered south bay area. Nothing was felt here. On Aug 25, 2014 10:52 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Normally, I don't go off topic like this, but because there are several list members who may have been affected by the earthquake in California, I will allow people to ask through this thread how are the list members in that area doing. List members who are in that area and who are able, please answer this thread and let us know you are alright. -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ancestry Global is Free until Sept 1
Thanks. On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 7:29 PM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote: I just received an email for those who are no subscribed to Ancestry their Global collection is free to search til Sep 1 -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA's new family trees (Gedcom) is up
Very funny. At least your name is Cheri... not Maria. On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 12:24 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: For those wanting to upload their Gedcoms to FTDNA, you can do it. For others, you can play with the new family tree feature. Don't know what they did with my 4 hours of beta testing. Looks like they didn't take a single suggestion. Such as Maria de Jesus. I told them not to assume the last name in the field was a last name. So they deleted it. I now have several women just named Maria. And low and behold, I'm not even connected to my mother! We share DNA, yet we have ZERO people in common in our family trees. Really? It's the same database! Play around with it. Make a list of features that don't work for you (because they did it from a North American centric point of view). I'll tell you were to send it next week. You can discuss it, but give Rick and Kalani some time to play around with it themselves. They were not beta testers and Kalani is on overload from work and Nancy Jean is not back from the Azores yet. And I'm out of town. So save up your suggestions! Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Private in so many of the trees
Hi, I understand having private for living persons, but it seems that ftDNA has criteria saying if there is no date of death, make the person private. This makes no sense, as it makes it impossible to view more than half of the trees. Tish -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Private in so many of the trees
Rick, The problem is not with my privacy settings. I have it set for show people as private for those less than 100 years ago. If I set it as totally private, the other setting I have a choice of, I would negate the idea of having a gedcom anyway, right? The problem is with looking at other people's trees. They will have names included with later dates, but the tree will have names as private in the 1850's, 1700's even one I know was in the 1600's. This makes no sense. Tish On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 7:28 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote: *Tish.* *Make sure your privacy settings are set correctly. From your My FTDNA page click manage personal information which is under your profile on the upper left of the page. This will take you to My FTDNA – Account Settings. Click the Genealogy tab and the first settings will be the privacy settings. Click the ones you desire and save that should correct the problem.* *Rick* *Family Tree DNA Co-AdministratorAzores DNA Project* *Azores DNA Project Co-Administrators* *All unpaid volunteers * *Cheri Mello – gfsche...@gmail.com gfsche...@gmail.com * *Rick Pimentel – rickredle...@gmail.com rickredle...@gmail.com * *Nancy Jean Baptista - fishsongf...@hotmail.com fishsongf...@hotmail.com* *Kalani Mondoy - mamoah...@gmail.com mamoah...@gmail.com * *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Tish M *Sent:* Tuesday, September 9, 2014 9:34 PM *To:* azores@googlegroups.com *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Private in so many of the trees Hi, I understand having private for living persons, but it seems that ftDNA has criteria saying if there is no date of death, make the person private. This makes no sense, as it makes it impossible to view more than half of the trees. Tish -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Private in so many of the trees
Rick, I just checked mine with another kit I take care of and hardly any of my tree comes in. It is totally useless to anyone. Until they fix their program I am going to make my whole tree private. Tish On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 7:59 AM, Tish M tish.me...@gmail.com wrote: Rick, The problem is not with my privacy settings. I have it set for show people as private for those less than 100 years ago. If I set it as totally private, the other setting I have a choice of, I would negate the idea of having a gedcom anyway, right? The problem is with looking at other people's trees. They will have names included with later dates, but the tree will have names as private in the 1850's, 1700's even one I know was in the 1600's. This makes no sense. Tish On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 7:28 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote: *Tish.* *Make sure your privacy settings are set correctly. From your My FTDNA page click manage personal information which is under your profile on the upper left of the page. This will take you to My FTDNA – Account Settings. Click the Genealogy tab and the first settings will be the privacy settings. Click the ones you desire and save that should correct the problem.* *Rick* *Family Tree DNA Co-AdministratorAzores DNA Project* *Azores DNA Project Co-Administrators* *All unpaid volunteers * *Cheri Mello – gfsche...@gmail.com gfsche...@gmail.com * *Rick Pimentel – rickredle...@gmail.com rickredle...@gmail.com * *Nancy Jean Baptista - fishsongf...@hotmail.com fishsongf...@hotmail.com* *Kalani Mondoy - mamoah...@gmail.com mamoah...@gmail.com * *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Tish M *Sent:* Tuesday, September 9, 2014 9:34 PM *To:* azores@googlegroups.com *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Private in so many of the trees Hi, I understand having private for living persons, but it seems that ftDNA has criteria saying if there is no date of death, make the person private. This makes no sense, as it makes it impossible to view more than half of the trees. Tish -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Private in so many of the trees
Hi Rick, I will write to ftDNA. I like the old display better, too. I doubt they will go back because they have invested in this tree. I wonder if it has anything to do with DNAGedCom or if it is just a coincidence. Tish On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 10:29 AM, Richard Francis Pimentel rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote: *Hi Tish,* *I just tried looking at a tree from one of my matches and am getting the same results. I urge you to contact FTDNA. To do this from your home FTDNA page use the feedback button which is at the upper right side of you page. This new family tree page has a lot of problems and the only way to fix it is to have everyone let them know. I did this yesterday about the general display and the way names appeared and told them I liked the old trees much better.* *Rick* *Richard Francis Pimentel* *Epping, NH* *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Tish M *Sent:* Wednesday, September 10, 2014 11:07 AM *To:* azores@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Private in so many of the trees Rick, I just checked mine with another kit I take care of and hardly any of my tree comes in. It is totally useless to anyone. Until they fix their program I am going to make my whole tree private. Tish On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 7:59 AM, Tish M tish.me...@gmail.com wrote: Rick, The problem is not with my privacy settings. I have it set for show people as private for those less than 100 years ago. If I set it as totally private, the other setting I have a choice of, I would negate the idea of having a gedcom anyway, right? The problem is with looking at other people's trees. They will have names included with later dates, but the tree will have names as private in the 1850's, 1700's even one I know was in the 1600's. This makes no sense. Tish On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 7:28 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote: *Tish.* *Make sure your privacy settings are set correctly. From your My FTDNA page click manage personal information which is under your profile on the upper left of the page. This will take you to My FTDNA – Account Settings. Click the Genealogy tab and the first settings will be the privacy settings. Click the ones you desire and save that should correct the problem.* *Rick* *Family Tree DNA Co-AdministratorAzores DNA Project* *Azores DNA Project Co-Administrators* *All unpaid volunteers * *Cheri Mello – gfsche...@gmail.com gfsche...@gmail.com * *Rick Pimentel – rickredle...@gmail.com rickredle...@gmail.com * *Nancy Jean Baptista - fishsongf...@hotmail.com fishsongf...@hotmail.com* *Kalani Mondoy - mamoah...@gmail.com mamoah...@gmail.com * *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Tish M *Sent:* Tuesday, September 9, 2014 9:34 PM *To:* azores@googlegroups.com *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Private in so many of the trees Hi, I understand having private for living persons, but it seems that ftDNA has criteria saying if there is no date of death, make the person private. This makes no sense, as it makes it impossible to view more than half of the trees. Tish -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA's new family trees (Gedcom) is up
Denise, Is Rick not showing up in your list of DNA relatives, or in the gedcom program? If it is in the DNA relatives maybe you just didn't get enough of the same DNA. If it is in the gedcom program I would say they have a great deal of tweaking to do before their program is usable. I do think they are trying, though. Tish On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 1:57 PM, 'Denise' via Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com wrote: Thank you Eric for your comment. I have my names entered a certain way - So let’s say I have José de Paiva (the de is showing up in the middle name field for some reason) and you have the same person as Jose Paiva - then we will not link because of the difference in his name? That is what I am trying to figure out. So for me I have no need to change the names in the edit field because I have no idea how someone else would record the name. Rick and I have a known connection that we documented years ago but he is not showing up in my list of relatives. I’m just wondering if this could be why. Denise D’Antona On Sep 10, 2014, at 4:40 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Rick P, can you help Denise? I won't be able to until next week. Cheri -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA's new family trees (Gedcom) is up
Eric, I don't think your statement is completely true. I have been in contact with ftDNA today. Cheri has already stated that she did 4 months of Beta testing. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make them drink. In this case, you can tell the designers what you don't like about their program, but you can't make them change it. Here is what they said: Our beta test was completed by people with both computer and genealogy experience, then we released the Family Tree to about 10% of our most regular users for further testing. Sometimes all of the best planning and testing still does not catch all of the problems, unfortunately. We are getting much of the same feedback regarding names and sizing of the tree and I will add your comments to the mix. Thank you! I then thanked them for the quick response and concerns. This was their reply: Tish -- Anytime! I love getting honest feedback from our customers, especially when it backs up what we've been telling the designers. Thank you for *your* time! Tish On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 2:17 PM, luiznoia . noblankt...@gmail.com wrote: FTDNA seemed to have overreached with this Family Tree function. It's clear they took no input from any genealogist nor thought beyond the most simplistic model of how this would actually work. Eric Edgar On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 1:57 PM, 'Denise' via Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com wrote: Thank you Eric for your comment. I have my names entered a certain way - So let’s say I have José de Paiva (the de is showing up in the middle name field for some reason) and you have the same person as Jose Paiva - then we will not link because of the difference in his name? That is what I am trying to figure out. So for me I have no need to change the names in the edit field because I have no idea how someone else would record the name. Rick and I have a known connection that we documented years ago but he is not showing up in my list of relatives. I’m just wondering if this could be why. Denise D’Antona On Sep 10, 2014, at 4:40 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Rick P, can you help Denise? I won't be able to until next week. Cheri -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA's new family trees (Gedcom) is up
Oops. I thought Cheri tested the beta version for 4 MONTHS. I thought that enough time... but, 4 HOURS is probably not enough time. When I was testing new programs for work we would run both programs for at least a few weeks, before using the new one. It was a lot of work, but was well worth it. Tish On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 6:38 PM, Mary Bordi busybo...@gmail.com wrote: Silly me...I got confused with the add relationship feature. I thought that when it showed a DNA link with someone in your tree that you clicked there. Today I went to add myself as my mom's daughter to her tree (I had not gone beyond my mom on her Gedcom). I was able to add myself to her tree there. But the possible link icon was not there today. I'm sure we will learn how this works someday. :) Mary On Tuesday, September 9, 2014, Mary Bordi busybo...@gmail.com wrote: Been playing! I need to redo my gedcom. And my mom's. I guess I didn't use ASCII characters in the names (had noticed it before) so names like José end up looking like José (If that even shows up here in email...!) It would be difficult to match similar names in other trees. Some womwn's have double first names... Maria Maria, Rosa Rosa, Joana Joana... Also, For me, it showed my mom as a possible link to me but then for relationship I was only given the choices of spouse, sibling, son, daughter. It wasn't clear if the relationship was hers to mine or mine to hers. My mom doesn't show a link to me, but I don't think I'm on her gedcom--I ended it with her! :) I'm on my iPad so I should check it out on my desktop computer. At least this is better than Ancestry--I can no longer view my DNA matches there on my iPad. :) Mary On Tuesday, September 9, 2014, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: For those wanting to upload their Gedcoms to FTDNA, you can do it. For others, you can play with the new family tree feature. Don't know what they did with my 4 hours of beta testing. Looks like they didn't take a single suggestion. Such as Maria de Jesus. I told them not to assume the last name in the field was a last name. So they deleted it. I now have several women just named Maria. And low and behold, I'm not even connected to my mother! We share DNA, yet we have ZERO people in common in our family trees. Really? It's the same database! Play around with it. Make a list of features that don't work for you (because they did it from a North American centric point of view). I'll tell you were to send it next week. You can discuss it, but give Rick and Kalani some time to play around with it themselves. They were not beta testers and Kalani is on overload from work and Nancy Jean is not back from the Azores yet. And I'm out of town. So save up your suggestions! Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA's new family trees (Gedcom) is up
I agree Cheri, IT (used to be called MIS) but didn't like the connotation, will hear a lot. Don't be surprised to see the old family trees back for awhile LOL. Tish On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 6:50 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: I would play around with it for a few hours and send them feed back. Then I'd play around with it for a few hours more. I'm guessing I did about 4 hours. Over the course of a month. Nah, more like 6 hours. I think that IT/Engineering may get beat up at the next FTDNA conference! LOL On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 6:45 PM, luiznoia . noblankt...@gmail.com wrote: Tish, I didn't say they didn't solicit input from genealogists, I said the didn't take the input. The naming difficulties are not unique to Portuguese research, it's big problem for any Latin American and Scandanavian naming forms also. Eric Edgar On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 6:31 PM, Tish M tish.me...@gmail.com wrote: Eric, I don't think your statement is completely true. I have been in contact with ftDNA today. Cheri has already stated that she did 4 months of Beta testing. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make them drink. In this case, you can tell the designers what you don't like about their program, but you can't make them change it. Here is what they said: Our beta test was completed by people with both computer and genealogy experience, then we released the Family Tree to about 10% of our most regular users for further testing. Sometimes all of the best planning and testing still does not catch all of the problems, unfortunately. We are getting much of the same feedback regarding names and sizing of the tree and I will add your comments to the mix. Thank you! I then thanked them for the quick response and concerns. This was their reply: Tish -- Anytime! I love getting honest feedback from our customers, especially when it backs up what we've been telling the designers. Thank you for *your* time! Tish On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 2:17 PM, luiznoia . noblankt...@gmail.com wrote: FTDNA seemed to have overreached with this Family Tree function. It's clear they took no input from any genealogist nor thought beyond the most simplistic model of how this would actually work. Eric Edgar On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 1:57 PM, 'Denise' via Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com wrote: Thank you Eric for your comment. I have my names entered a certain way - So let’s say I have José de Paiva (the de is showing up in the middle name field for some reason) and you have the same person as Jose Paiva - then we will not link because of the difference in his name? That is what I am trying to figure out. So for me I have no need to change the names in the edit field because I have no idea how someone else would record the name. Rick and I have a known connection that we documented years ago but he is not showing up in my list of relatives. I’m just wondering if this could be why. Denise D’Antona On Sep 10, 2014, at 4:40 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Rick P, can you help Denise? I won't be able to until next week. Cheri -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- For options
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Getting rid of the Private people in the new Family Trees on FTDNA
I have made everything private. Until they fix their problem I intend to do so. I feel their system is a breach of our privacy. Tish On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 1:41 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: I know. It feels like they released a beta to the public!! They know. They have a bunch of admins up in arms. And the conference is next month. IT/Engineering is going to have to go in body armor! Or they are going to have to search us admins for rotten tomatoes because IT/Engineering may get some!! Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Getting rid of the Private people in the new Family Trees on FTDNA
João misinterpreted my statement. The breach of privacy isn't the fault of the company, it's with the IT's. I am very much a fan of the company, I have had nothing but positive feedback from them. The people they have got to do their programing are the ones I'm hot at (throw a rotten egg at them for me). The breach I am talking about is this sort of thing. (They upload it to FTDNA and they ask if you want the living to be marked private. So if the user says yes again, it is UNMARKED private, because it undoes the previous command/setting/tech thing.) The breach statement is that you have given them your name, your parents name and in many cases all of your parents pertinent information (date of birth, where they were born, etc.). Much of this type of information is used (or used to be used) in setting up bank accounts, and who know what. I'm not really saying these things are still used, but this type of information could surely be used for identity theft, or some other scam where the scammer has information you have unwittingly provided. They should have made sure the program wasn't causing this type of information to get out no matter what you checked. Maybe they should have had a pop up telling you what you were about to do by checking private. I'm just frustrated with their system and until it is fixed, this is my fix. Tish João, in ways you are right. I can give them anything I want, but when I am working with a company (who I trust) I expect that company to act with my best interest at heart. In the further I will make my gedcom with my parameters as I want them. I personally don't think I should have to do this, but I get your point. I still does not change my stance at this time. You say now no one can look at my stuff, this is true, but all they were getting was PRIVATE when they looked anyhow. On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 8:16 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Joao C, Actually, FTDNA prefers that you NOT make it anonymous on your end when creating the Gedcom and then to chose the privacy settings when you upload it to their site. Many people mark the living private when creating the Gedcom. They upload it to FTDNA and they ask if you want the living to be marked private. So if the user says yes again, it is UNMARKED private, because it undoes the previous command/setting/tech thing. Tish, I don't understand why you say FTDNA is doing a breach to our privacy. They aren't installing anything on our computers. They aren't stealing banking info. They give us the choice as to what we want to share or not share. However, their directions about how to do it (paragraph above) isn't clear at all. All I know is that the IT/Engineering guys are going to have to wear a suit of armor from head to toe, because there are a lot of admins who are going to throw rotten tomatoes at them at the conference next month! LOL Cheri On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 12:14 AM, João Ventura j...@venturas.org wrote: Hi all, I find it interesting that it's their problem all of a sudden! YOU have uploaded data with private information to a third party. That third party has decided to apply a filter on that data that you don't like. Fine, So you decide to filter out everything on the data they present to others. Have you ever considered that you should have applied that filter BEFORE you uploaded that data? I'm pretty sure your genealogy program allows you to 'anonymise' living persons. Just export a GEDCOM filtered the way you like at the source and you shouldn't need to worry about having FTDNA come up with filters that suit your taste. João Ventura http://tombo.pt/en On Sunday, 14 September 2014 23:55:41 UTC+2, sfig wrote: I have made everything private. Until they fix their problem I intend to do so. I feel their system is a breach of our privacy. Tish On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 1:41 AM, Cheri Mello gfsc...@gmail.com wrote: I know. It feels like they released a beta to the public!! They know. They have a bunch of admins up in arms. And the conference is next month. IT/Engineering is going to have to go in body armor! Or they are going to have to search us admins for rotten tomatoes because IT/Engineering may get some!! Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Getting rid of the Private people in the new Family Trees on FTDNA
Marilyn, Thank you for your input. I agree with you. Maybe I will do the same. I guess I just don't like having to manipulate my data because the programers can't get their act together. Personally, I don't know why they changed their trees in the first place. I think they just thought adding bells and whistles would get them more passengers people to sign up to do DNA. I think they should look to their credibility as a DNA testing site, but I do understand their dilemma. Oh well... Tish On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Marilyn Thompson mari...@jmtmlt.com wrote: Tish I understand your frustraion. So I am only including myself without full birth information, then my deceased parents and ancestors to my GEDCOM. I am not adding my living cousins (other than those tested) as their deceased parents are showing and I figure if someone gets that close, they can tell where we match or not at that point. That way I do not have to worry about private or not private. Yes it will take me a little more to prepare the GEDCOM but then I know what is showing. This is my solution until I find a better one. I do know that if I want to match up to the 2 cousins that I have had tested, I will have to include them in my database, but will do it without there full birth information (year only). On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 10:17 AM, Tish M tish.me...@gmail.com wrote: João misinterpreted my statement. The breach of privacy isn't the fault of the company, it's with the IT's. I am very much a fan of the company, I have had nothing but positive feedback from them. The people they have got to do their programing are the ones I'm hot at (throw a rotten egg at them for me). The breach I am talking about is this sort of thing. (They upload it to FTDNA and they ask if you want the living to be marked private. So if the user says yes again, it is UNMARKED private, because it undoes the previous command/setting/tech thing.) The breach statement is that you have given them your name, your parents name and in many cases all of your parents pertinent information (date of birth, where they were born, etc.). Much of this type of information is used (or used to be used) in setting up bank accounts, and who know what. I'm not really saying these things are still used, but this type of information could surely be used for identity theft, or some other scam where the scammer has information you have unwittingly provided. They should have made sure the program wasn't causing this type of information to get out no matter what you checked. Maybe they should have had a pop up telling you what you were about to do by checking private. I'm just frustrated with their system and until it is fixed, this is my fix. Tish João, in ways you are right. I can give them anything I want, but when I am working with a company (who I trust) I expect that company to act with my best interest at heart. In the further I will make my gedcom with my parameters as I want them. I personally don't think I should have to do this, but I get your point. I still does not change my stance at this time. You say now no one can look at my stuff, this is true, but all they were getting was PRIVATE when they looked anyhow. On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 8:16 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Joao C, Actually, FTDNA prefers that you NOT make it anonymous on your end when creating the Gedcom and then to chose the privacy settings when you upload it to their site. Many people mark the living private when creating the Gedcom. They upload it to FTDNA and they ask if you want the living to be marked private. So if the user says yes again, it is UNMARKED private, because it undoes the previous command/setting/tech thing. Tish, I don't understand why you say FTDNA is doing a breach to our privacy. They aren't installing anything on our computers. They aren't stealing banking info. They give us the choice as to what we want to share or not share. However, their directions about how to do it (paragraph above) isn't clear at all. All I know is that the IT/Engineering guys are going to have to wear a suit of armor from head to toe, because there are a lot of admins who are going to throw rotten tomatoes at them at the conference next month! LOL Cheri On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 12:14 AM, João Ventura j...@venturas.org wrote: Hi all, I find it interesting that it's their problem all of a sudden! YOU have uploaded data with private information to a third party. That third party has decided to apply a filter on that data that you don't like. Fine, So you decide to filter out everything on the data they present to others. Have you ever considered that you should have applied that filter BEFORE you uploaded that data? I'm pretty sure your genealogy program allows you to 'anonymise' living persons. Just export a GEDCOM filtered
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Getting rid of the Private people in the new Family Trees on FTDNA
Thanks for the explanation João. I will redo my gedcom. Tish On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 4:36 AM, João Ventura j...@venturas.org wrote: Cheri, When I export anonymized information for the living in a GEDCOM, there's no 'flag' saying: please mark this private, which FTDNA can then toggle to make public again. It goes out like this: 0 INDI I02 1 NAME [Living] /Sousa/ 2 GIVN [Living] 2 SURN Sousa 1 FAMS F01 2 FAMC F02 That's all there is to it, the full entry for that individual. There's no way that anyone can ever toggle that info to get the info I wanted private (like birthdates). Since it's never there in the first place. As it should never be. If it's information that you deem private enough, it should never leave your PC. Exporting it with all details, and then trusting a third party (in this case FTDNA) to keep that info hidden is asking for trouble. They may have problems in their software, and your data will be exposed to others. Your password may be easy to guess and someone could try to hack into your account (just ask all the celebrities that had their nude pictures published on the Internet recently). A disgruntled employee may keep a copy of the database and release it to the public when they leave the company (yes, I trust that FTDNA has checks in place to prevent that, but still...). João Ventura http://tombo.pt/en On Monday, 15 September 2014 21:25:59 UTC+2, Cheri Mello wrote: Joao C. Ventura (Tombo guy) can explain it better. It's not FTDNA. It's the way computer programming works. If you tell a computer program to do something (in this case, hide a birthdate), and then you take that information and tell a 2nd computer program to hide the birthdate again, we as humans know what we want. We want to be sure that the birthdate is hidden. But with computer programming, it only knows 2 things: Off or on (binary code). So in one program, you turn it off, send it to the other program and turn it off again, it can't. It can only do the opposite and turn in on. It's like a light switch. You can turn it on and the light does not go on (burned out bulb). You can't turn it on again to be sure it's on. You can only turn it off and then try to turn it on again. That's what it's like (sorta) with computer programming. I'm not a computer programmer. I took a BASIC class over 30 years ago. Joao (Tombo) can give a much more correct explanation. You can't tell a computer program to do the same thing twice after it did it the first time. That's why I recommend that you just leave the dates in your program ON. Export them out. It's fine. Upload it to FTDNA and turn it OFF there. If you have clean data entry, it will work. And if you don't like what you see, play with the privacy settings or take your tree down until they are done tweaking it more. But they won't be able to make it hide a date after you've hidden it on your end. It just the nature of computer programming. I need to get lunch and go to work. I'll have to play around in a tree to make a better explanation. Cheri On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 12:09 PM, Tish M tish@gmail.com wrote: Marilyn, Thank you for your input. I agree with you. Maybe I will do the same. I guess I just don't like having to manipulate my data because the programers can't get their act together. Personally, I don't know why they changed their trees in the first place. I think they just thought adding bells and whistles would get them more passengers people to sign up to do DNA. I think they should look to their credibility as a DNA testing site, but I do understand their dilemma. Oh well... Tish On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Marilyn Thompson mar...@jmtmlt.com wrote: Tish I understand your frustraion. So I am only including myself without full birth information, then my deceased parents and ancestors to my GEDCOM. I am not adding my living cousins (other than those tested) as their deceased parents are showing and I figure if someone gets that close, they can tell where we match or not at that point. That way I do not have to worry about private or not private. Yes it will take me a little more to prepare the GEDCOM but then I know what is showing. This is my solution until I find a better one. I do know that if I want to match up to the 2 cousins that I have had tested, I will have to include them in my database, but will do it without there full birth information (year only). On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 10:17 AM, Tish M tish@gmail.com wrote: João misinterpreted my statement. The breach of privacy isn't the fault of the company, it's with the IT's. I am very much a fan of the company, I have had nothing but positive feedback from them. The people they have got to do their programing are the ones I'm hot at (throw a rotten egg at them for me). The breach I am talking about is this sort of thing. (They upload it to FTDNA and they ask if you want
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Getting rid of the Private people in the new Family Trees on FTDNA
I find this all very confusing. Why hasn't ftDNA just taken all gedcom's off line? On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 9:31 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Joao, I know that TMG has an option to suppress the details of the living. I believe the other genealogy programs do as well. I know when I've told others not to mark private on their end but to do it when uploaded to FTDNA it undid the setting. I understand what you mean by having the 3rd party do it for you. Maybe they just shouldn't have that option at all and have us do it on our end (but there are many who are uncomfortable making Gedcoms). Might be something to bring up to them at the conference next month. Cheri On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 4:36 AM, João Ventura j...@venturas.org wrote: Cheri, When I export anonymized information for the living in a GEDCOM, there's no 'flag' saying: please mark this private, which FTDNA can then toggle to make public again. It goes out like this: 0 INDI I02 1 NAME [Living] /Sousa/ 2 GIVN [Living] 2 SURN Sousa 1 FAMS F01 2 FAMC F02 That's all there is to it, the full entry for that individual. There's no way that anyone can ever toggle that info to get the info I wanted private (like birthdates). Since it's never there in the first place. As it should never be. If it's information that you deem private enough, it should never leave your PC. Exporting it with all details, and then trusting a third party (in this case FTDNA) to keep that info hidden is asking for trouble. They may have problems in their software, and your data will be exposed to others. Your password may be easy to guess and someone could try to hack into your account (just ask all the celebrities that had their nude pictures published on the Internet recently). A disgruntled employee may keep a copy of the database and release it to the public when they leave the company (yes, I trust that FTDNA has checks in place to prevent that, but still...). João Ventura http://tombo.pt/en On Monday, 15 September 2014 21:25:59 UTC+2, Cheri Mello wrote: Joao C. Ventura (Tombo guy) can explain it better. It's not FTDNA. It's the way computer programming works. If you tell a computer program to do something (in this case, hide a birthdate), and then you take that information and tell a 2nd computer program to hide the birthdate again, we as humans know what we want. We want to be sure that the birthdate is hidden. But with computer programming, it only knows 2 things: Off or on (binary code). So in one program, you turn it off, send it to the other program and turn it off again, it can't. It can only do the opposite and turn in on. It's like a light switch. You can turn it on and the light does not go on (burned out bulb). You can't turn it on again to be sure it's on. You can only turn it off and then try to turn it on again. That's what it's like (sorta) with computer programming. I'm not a computer programmer. I took a BASIC class over 30 years ago. Joao (Tombo) can give a much more correct explanation. You can't tell a computer program to do the same thing twice after it did it the first time. That's why I recommend that you just leave the dates in your program ON. Export them out. It's fine. Upload it to FTDNA and turn it OFF there. If you have clean data entry, it will work. And if you don't like what you see, play with the privacy settings or take your tree down until they are done tweaking it more. But they won't be able to make it hide a date after you've hidden it on your end. It just the nature of computer programming. I need to get lunch and go to work. I'll have to play around in a tree to make a better explanation. Cheri On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 12:09 PM, Tish M tish@gmail.com wrote: Marilyn, Thank you for your input. I agree with you. Maybe I will do the same. I guess I just don't like having to manipulate my data because the programers can't get their act together. Personally, I don't know why they changed their trees in the first place. I think they just thought adding bells and whistles would get them more passengers people to sign up to do DNA. I think they should look to their credibility as a DNA testing site, but I do understand their dilemma. Oh well... Tish On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Marilyn Thompson mar...@jmtmlt.com wrote: Tish I understand your frustraion. So I am only including myself without full birth information, then my deceased parents and ancestors to my GEDCOM. I am not adding my living cousins (other than those tested) as their deceased parents are showing and I figure if someone gets that close, they can tell where we match or not at that point. That way I do not have to worry about private or not private. Yes it will take me a little more to prepare the GEDCOM but then I know what is showing. This is my solution until I find a better one. I do know that if I want to match up to the 2
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Getting rid of the Private people in the new Family Trees on FTDNA
Good ideas. I am learning quite a bit. On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 1:08 PM, p...@dholmes.com wrote: I'm happy with the results showing for my and my father's gedcom. I'm glad they haven't removed them. But maybe it's because I have not made anything private. I put what info I wanted to be there and nothing more. I admit it's not the easiest thing to make a proper gedcom. I doubt my father could do it without a lot of help. Maybe the best way is to first create a second set of data files containing only the people and information you want there - no siblings, no notes, no pictures, no references. Once you have done that, you now open up your newly created data files (which must have been saved to some other directory or you are possibly going to erase your normal files). Once open, look over all the data you want to be there. Delete anything you don't want. Then it's simple to export the entire thing as a gedcom for posting. In the future, you might have to do the entire process all over again, assuming you make progress with extending your tree and want to show everyone a larger tree. For me, I made just 6 generations to show. At least it's better than some who don't want to post anything, even though they have the ability. I sometimes wonder why they even got tested if they don't want to connect to people. Doug da Rocha Holmes Sacramento, California Pico Terceira Genealogist 916-550-1618 www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Getting rid of the Private people in the new Family Trees on FTDNA From: Tish M tish.me...@gmail.com Date: Tue, September 16, 2014 11:00 am To: azores@googlegroups.com azores@googlegroups.com I find this all very confusing. Why hasn't ftDNA just taken all gedcom's off line? -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Getting rid of the Private people in the new Family Trees on FTDNA
OK. I deleted my gedcom and reenter one with suggestions from João and Doug and finally got something close to what I wanted. It still has private in some places, but it is much better. I didn't change any of their settings. I also saved the gedcom with microsoft ascii character set and all of the ã's, ç, etc. came in perfectly. I am somewhat happy now. Tish On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 4:22 PM, Tish M tish.me...@gmail.com wrote: Good ideas. I am learning quite a bit. On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 1:08 PM, p...@dholmes.com wrote: I'm happy with the results showing for my and my father's gedcom. I'm glad they haven't removed them. But maybe it's because I have not made anything private. I put what info I wanted to be there and nothing more. I admit it's not the easiest thing to make a proper gedcom. I doubt my father could do it without a lot of help. Maybe the best way is to first create a second set of data files containing only the people and information you want there - no siblings, no notes, no pictures, no references. Once you have done that, you now open up your newly created data files (which must have been saved to some other directory or you are possibly going to erase your normal files). Once open, look over all the data you want to be there. Delete anything you don't want. Then it's simple to export the entire thing as a gedcom for posting. In the future, you might have to do the entire process all over again, assuming you make progress with extending your tree and want to show everyone a larger tree. For me, I made just 6 generations to show. At least it's better than some who don't want to post anything, even though they have the ability. I sometimes wonder why they even got tested if they don't want to connect to people. Doug da Rocha Holmes Sacramento, California Pico Terceira Genealogist 916-550-1618 www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Getting rid of the Private people in the new Family Trees on FTDNA From: Tish M tish.me...@gmail.com Date: Tue, September 16, 2014 11:00 am To: azores@googlegroups.com azores@googlegroups.com I find this all very confusing. Why hasn't ftDNA just taken all gedcom's off line? -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ancestry.com free immigration searches
For anyone new out there, I agree with Rick completely. You have to be very careful with Ancestry's free stuff. Tish On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 6:04 AM, Nancy Pinksaw npink...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you, for letting us know. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Ships manifest from Porto, Portugal to Brazil around October 1911
Hi group, I must have gotten in the middle of this posting. Can someone post the link to the manifests? Tish On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Carolyn M carolynmoro...@gmail.com wrote: Roberto, Thank you for that information. It would be very helpful to me if I could find out the name of the ship that Vitorino and his family took to Brazil in October 1911. I would think there would be a database somewhere of ships and their routes with dates included. But could I search on these data bases that you suggested by a specific date, since I know that already? Carolyn On Sunday, November 2, 2014 11:53:34 AM UTC-5, Roberto Machado Velho wrote: I would like to add some information on the answer of Isabella Baltar. The archives in Brazil are still being indexed. But I tried some times read the list by myself on a specific boat and use the search function based on names. Archives newer than 1896 or around looked to be indexed. They are indexing it backwards. But given lot of names were written in the wrong form on arrival, the name in the index might not be the name you are looking for. Extra information. You must search the databases separately on port, Rio de Janeiro, Santos (state of Sao Paulo), Recife, Salvador (Bahia) - I believe these were the main ports to arrive. By the year you are referring to, there were still portugueses earning lands on south of Brazil (today Santa Catarina and Rio Grande do Sul). Independent of them moving to the south of Brazil, it was mandatory to stop in the ports (Rio or Santos) and register and then move to the South (I don' t know if this is your case). If you imagine your family moved to the south of Brazil, let me know. I have been in Porto Alegre some months ago and I could get the registers of the portuguese families that got land there from 1876 on (mainly Azoreans). None of such archives are in digital form and they are getting destroyed in bad storage conditions. I am still trying to organize what I could get. Good luck, Roberto Velho. On Saturday, September 20, 2014 8:32:37 PM UTC+3, Carolyn M wrote: I would like to know if anyone knows of any online records of ships manifests leaving Porto, Portugal to Brazil? My great-uncle left Porto bound for Brazil on or around October 1911, but I don't know the name of the ship. I also posted this to the Portuguese Genealogy Board, but I'm not sure it ever got through. This is my first post, and I want to thank you all for being here! Any information regarding the manifest would be greatly appreciated. Carolyn -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Ships manifest from Porto, Portugal to Brazil around October 1911
Isabella, Thank you so much for your response. I know you mentioned these sites before, but at that time I had no leads. I now how a Isabella folder! Thanks again, Tish On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 4:59 AM, Isabella Baltar myportuguese...@gmail.com wrote: Good morning Tish and Carolyn, The ship manifests from Brazil that you find on Family Search database are *only* from *Bahia (1855 – 1964) and São Paulo (1960 – 1982).* These records are only images, no indexing until the moment. So if you fit those dates, for those two places, you need to open one by one and read them to find your ancestor. The ship manifests from Rio de Janeiro are digitized but they are not on Family Search database. You will have to search on the National Archives from Brazil to find the one you are looking for. Links for those databases are on my blog, under *Researching in Brazil*, I cut and pasted below: *http://myportuguesegen.blogspot.com/p/researching-in-brazil_4.html http://myportuguesegen.blogspot.com/p/researching-in-brazil_4.html* The first link you will find when you open the link above is the one for the Family Search database, in Brazil. You will need to scroll this page, at Family Search, in order to find the appropriate link to what you are looking for. There are several different links for different states. Going back to *My Portuguese Gen *link, above, I added, on this same link/page, web addresses to: *Rio de Janeiro state*, including a List of steamers and passengers manifests that arrived in* Rio de Janeiro Port between 1805 – 1921. *This is a partial database, constantly updated by the Brazilian National Archives, they are not indexed, they are images in a pdf format. You need to have at least a timeframe to research because this is a huge database with thousands of names. and to *São Paulo State* where I include links to the museum of immigration database, with ships lists, hospedarias and photos. I try to simplify the search as much as possible separating them by state and I display specific links for what you can research on those databases. If you have any other questions related, please let me know. I may take a few days to answer, but I will answer, just too busy at work. Isabella Baltar myportuguesegen.blogspot.com On Sunday, November 9, 2014 5:24:24 PM UTC-5, sfig wrote: Hi group, I must have gotten in the middle of this posting. Can someone post the link to the manifests? Tish On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Carolyn M carolyn...@gmail.com wrote: Roberto, Thank you for that information. It would be very helpful to me if I could find out the name of the ship that Vitorino and his family took to Brazil in October 1911. I would think there would be a database somewhere of ships and their routes with dates included. But could I search on these data bases that you suggested by a specific date, since I know that already? Carolyn On Sunday, November 2, 2014 11:53:34 AM UTC-5, Roberto Machado Velho wrote: I would like to add some information on the answer of Isabella Baltar. The archives in Brazil are still being indexed. But I tried some times read the list by myself on a specific boat and use the search function based on names. Archives newer than 1896 or around looked to be indexed. They are indexing it backwards. But given lot of names were written in the wrong form on arrival, the name in the index might not be the name you are looking for. Extra information. You must search the databases separately on port, Rio de Janeiro, Santos (state of Sao Paulo), Recife, Salvador (Bahia) - I believe these were the main ports to arrive. By the year you are referring to, there were still portugueses earning lands on south of Brazil (today Santa Catarina and Rio Grande do Sul). Independent of them moving to the south of Brazil, it was mandatory to stop in the ports (Rio or Santos) and register and then move to the South (I don' t know if this is your case). If you imagine your family moved to the south of Brazil, let me know. I have been in Porto Alegre some months ago and I could get the registers of the portuguese families that got land there from 1876 on (mainly Azoreans). None of such archives are in digital form and they are getting destroyed in bad storage conditions. I am still trying to organize what I could get. Good luck, Roberto Velho. On Saturday, September 20, 2014 8:32:37 PM UTC+3, Carolyn M wrote: I would like to know if anyone knows of any online records of ships manifests leaving Porto, Portugal to Brazil? My great-uncle left Porto bound for Brazil on or around October 1911, but I don't know the name of the ship. I also posted this to the Portuguese Genealogy Board, but I'm not sure it ever got through. This is my first post, and I want to thank you all for being here! Any information regarding the manifest would be greatly appreciated. Carolyn -- For options, such as
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] No longer able to view records on CCA
Although I don't like... hate google chrome, it is by far the fastest web browser for the CCA stuff. I haven't dealt with the new Safari browser (which is supposedly faster), but I did get the tip from one of the programers for DNAGEDCOM. He said google chrome worked better for their site... and it did. Tish On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 8:52 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: I was able to view a record via my cell phone. And others are able to access the CCA. Herb, I guess we clear our cache and all that stuff. Cheri -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Carlos Machado's livro 1
Hello, I have been looking at Carlos Machado's genealogy book and found information concerning my grandmother's family. If anyone has information as to who Carlos Machado is, and about how he acquired his information I would be interested in knowing. Thank you, Tish -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Carlos Machado's livro 1
My husband found an earlier post from Roots Web that answered my question. Thanks to John Miranda Raposo. On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 9:14 AM, Tish M tish.me...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I have been looking at Carlos Machado's genealogy book and found information concerning my grandmother's family. If anyone has information as to who Carlos Machado is, and about how he acquired his information I would be interested in knowing. Thank you, Tish -- Carlos Machado Genealogies now availablehttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/AZORES/2004-10/1097501070 sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Manoel Chaves Braga - Santa Maria
I have information on the ilha de Santa Maria, but I would need more information. Birth date, freguesia? I can read your question, but unfortunately can not reply in Portuguese. On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 1:41 PM, angela garcez angelagar...@uol.com.brwrote: estou procurando informações sobre meu avô Manoel Chaves Braga, da ilha de Santa Maria. Ele faleceu em São Paulo - Brasil. Sua primeira esposa era Maria Umbelina.Obrigada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Manoel Chaves Braga - Santa Maria
When you start your search I recommend you look in Sao Pedro, Vila do Porto, or Almagreira first. I looked only for Manoel born 1877 Ago 8, and I did not find the record in Santa Barbara or Santo Espirito. On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 5:59 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Angela, Santa Maria has only 5 parishes. The records are not online. Go to your local Family History Center. They are part of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. You do not need to belong to their church to order the records. Order the film and start going through it parish by parish, looking for your Manoel, b. 8 Ago 1877. Good luck, Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Gaspar de Braga, Ilha de Santa Maria
Thank you everyone. Obviously I needed your help. There is a big difference between death and marriage. At least to most of us. Tish On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 3:26 PM, Hermano C. Pires lagoe...@hotmail.comwrote: On 25 May 1689 I Ignacio Pereia de Medeiros eclesiastic judge and vice vicar recieved (In facie eclesiae) at the church's door (literaly at the face of the church) Guaspar de Bragua (Gaspar de Braga) son of Francisco Raposo and Isabel Nunes and Maria Pireira (Pereira) daughter of Francisco Vas Ligas (? Vas Ligas, never saw this before. I could be wrong) and Maria Soares. Witnesses: Francisco de Andrade Correa, Ignacio de Andrade Velho (or widower, most likely), Maria Ferreira wife of Manoel (Manuel) Soares Gracia, Ignes (Ines) de Andrade wife of Guaspar (Gaspar) de Andrade and many others present. Hope that helps. Hermano -- Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 14:24:03 -0700 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Gaspar de Braga, Ilha de Santa Maria From: pamsanto...@gmail.com To: azores@googlegroups.com What I can get is Francisco Vas and of Maria Soares... Francisco de Andrade Correa, Ignacio de Andrade Vas and Maria Ferreira, Manuel Soares Ignacio, Ines de Andrade On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 12:22 PM, Tish M tish.me...@gmail.com wrote: If possible I would like some help with this translation. This is what I can make out, but I know it's far from correct. On the twenty five day of May of 1689... (the priest's name) buried Gaspar de Bragua, son of Francisco Raposo and of Isabel Nunes ? ? Pirera, son of Francisco Vas (Veigas?) and of Maria de Sousa...Francisco d Andrade Cuevea, Ingnacio d Andrade ? and Maria ? wife of Manoel Soares Gracio, and ? d' Andrade wife of Gaspar d Andrade ... As you can see the translation is far from complete or correct. Any help would be appreciated. -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Antonio de Moura Borges Baptism
Hi Marcio, It looks like we are related. We have to go back to Antonio de Fonte Falcão and Isabel Cabral! Your Maria and my Antonio were brother and sister. Tish On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 2:30 PM, Marcio Borba marcioborba_ge...@yahoo.comwrote: To me seems: Antonio, son of Antonio de Melo, son of Manuel da Costa Borges and of his wife Joana de Melo, and of Maria da Rosa, daughter of Cristovao? Vaz de Melo and of his wife Catarina de Moura. Tish! I have a question. Do you know if St. Espirito records on this period mentioned grandparents or was this one an exception? I have a gggrandfather from St. Espirito whose ancestors been traced. But I am stuck on the begining of the 1700's, since records for this parish are lost. I'm attaching his line. Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot.com --- Em *qui, 1/11/12, Tish M tish.me...@gmail.com* escreveu: De: Tish M tish.me...@gmail.com Assunto: [AZORES-Genealogy] Antonio de Moura Borges Baptism Para: azores@googlegroups.com Azores@googlegroups.com Data: Quinta-feira, 1 de Novembro de 2012, 19:12 Hi, If possible I would like more eyes looking at this Baptism. What I have... with some imagination. Antonio, son of Antonio de Mello, son of Manoel da ? Borges and Joa? de Melo or Velho, and Maria da Rosa, daughter of (? Cristabol) Vas da Melo or Velho, and Catherina de Moura. Born on Oct. 26, 1728. This a record from Santo Espirito, Santa Maria. -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] BIBLIOTECA PUBLICA E ARQUIVO DE PONTA DELGADA Archive Requests
Vila do Porto, Santa Bárbara e Santo Espírito marriages until 1911. On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 2:34 PM, George Pacheco bretanha1...@gmail.comwrote: *Archive Requests* -*Ponta Delgada:* Parochial Register: Baptisms: to 1911 Marriages: to 1911 Deaths: until 1911 – Civil Register: Marriages:to 1922 Deaths: until 1955 *Ribeira Grande, Lagoa, Vila Franca do Campo:* Register P- Parochial Register (baptisms, marriages and deaths) until 1905 *Nordeste* Parochial Register (baptisms, marriages and deaths) until 1905 Civil Register: Marriages: to 1935 Deaths: until 1979 *Vila do Porto, Santa Bárbara e Santo Espírito* Parochial Register (baptisms, marriages and deaths) until 1905 *Almagreira* Registo Paroquial do ano de 1906, data da sua elevação a paróquia** -- www.georgepacheco.com -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en. -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] BIBLIOTECA PUBLICA E ARQUIVO DE PONTA DELGADA Archive Requests
Sorry, I was under the impression you were asking for stuff from the
archives (kind of a wish list) so I was just adding to my wish list.
Tish
On Monday, May 13, 2013, George Pacheco wrote:
Cheri, I asked the archive what they had available at the archives,
because now the have marriages and deaths higher than 1911, and that was
their response i notice that they they also did not mention povoação, and
what Trish mentioned above, I thought I would share what they sent ,
I guess I shouldn't have share because it caused confusion.
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 1:19 AM, Cheri Mello
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Um, I've been at a festa all day. I'm not sure what you're referring to,
George. You're making me feel like I've had too much vinho! LOL
This stuff isn't up on the CCA. What are you referring to?
Thanks!
Cheri Mello
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Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
Tainhas, Achada
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Oakland Family History Center
Hi Pam, Deni and I were in Oakland about 2 years ago and they had one reader that could read the small reels. They kept a 64 magnification lens at the desk that you could sign out. There was a very helpful man, Ralph Severson. He volunteered there once a week. If you find information you want, you can save it to a flash drive. It is time consuming but as long as no one wants the machine, they let you use it. You might like to take a trip to the Freitas Library ( http://portfsa.org/library/) in San Leandro since you are down here. They have a pretty good collection of books on Portuguese subjects and are also very helpful. It would be good to call ahead and make an appointment as the staff is very small. Good hunting, Tish On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 6:41 PM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote: I did, and that is what I thought they did have one in the pass. They have several 16 mm readers but like I said it is still too small to read. The scan pro they have is nice, but the guy said they cost 6000 each. On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 6:27 PM, rcapodc rcap...@redshift.com wrote: Pam, Did you ask if they had an enlarging lens reader? They always did in the past. Rosemarie *From:* Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com *Sent:* Saturday, June 15, 2013 5:30 PM *To:* azores@googlegroups.com *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Oakland Family History Center Kind of bummed, went to the Oakland Family History Center today (yes I drove all the way from oregon) and their readers still too hard to read Ribeira Grande film. They have a pro scanner that works GREAT. BUT only 2 so had to use for 1 hour then let someone else use it for 1 hour and so forth. So awhole day wasted, only found two baptism. Wish I could just reserve one for the whole day. Going back on Tuesday. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Participants in Azores DNA Group only
CHERI, The message you just sent to the azores group seems to imply there are filters for the FTDNA database. Are the filters to just see the azores group available to Family Finder. If so, where? On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 9:24 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Elaine, There's a setting that you can control. The default is to show all matches within the entire FTDNA database. If you want to filter it to show matches with the Azores DNA project only or the Madeira only or the Smith DNA only (if you had a Smith line), you can do that. There are other filters too for Family Finder (In Common With, Not In Common With, New Since ___) etc. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Participants in Azores DNA Group only
Cheri, Thank you very much! You are quite a lady. Tish On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 2:53 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Tish/Dennis, Log into Tish's DNA page. On the blue navigation bar across the top, point at Family Finder. From the drop down menu, pick Advanced Matching. Once that opens, you have options. You can pick the Family Finder test and the Azores DNA project only and run it that way. Cheri Mello Azores DNA Admin -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] caton or caetano to ashland area, bay area from Flores, then Mass., Also Garcia, Alvernaz or Harvey.
Shirley,
I don't know if you are interested but there is a free ebook on the
internet on the History of Washington Township you might be interested in
viewing.
History of Washington Township, Alameda County, California
...http://www.google.com/url?sa=trct=jq=history%20of%20washingtontownship%20alameda%20co%20casource=webcd=1ved=0CC8QFjAAurl=http%3A%2F%2Farchive.org%2Fdetails%2Fhistoryofwashing00counei=EE_jUaO9N6WJiAK5woH4CQusg=AFQjCNE0AFWiO2C1IGmnubDiUVNcUurViwsig2=Xej-BHwfpckOfBMQqBFreQbvm=bv.48705608,d.cGE
Tish
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Food for thought. I was born and raised in Washington TOWNSHIP. There
are several towns in Washington Township. I believe they were: Decoto,
Alvarado, Niles, Centerville (the center of Washington Township), Mission
San Jose, Irvington, Newark, AND I think Milpitas.
Sam: Was Milpitas in Washington Township?
Shirley in CA
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OK. A start. Here they are in the 1910 census
Family126 - County Road, Washington, Alameda County CA
Manuel A. Harvey 37 b. abt. 1873 Portugal, married 6 years, 2 children
born 2 children living, to US abt. 1900, farmer
wife: Polcena Harvey 21 b. abt. 1889 CA
ch: Helen 4 b. abt. 1906 CA
Clarence T. 1 b. abt. 1909 CA
I think this is them in 1920 census Farm 10, Niles Mission Road,
Washington Irvington District, Alameda Co. CA:
Manl A. Harvey 41 b. Azores to US 1909
wife: Mary?? 31 b. CA parents b. Azores
ch: Helen 14 b. CA
Now I will work on trying to find per parents in 1900 census. Should be
able to find her birth record somewhere.
Elaine
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Who Do You Think You Are? aired in California on TLC and they are offering a trip to the motherland!
You can watch the show on TLC. Google 'Who do you think you are, TLC' and
go find the full episode section. Click and watch.
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Thanks for the tip, Patricia. I had the same experience with Internet
Explorer, but Firefox did work.
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Hi Everyone,
Google Chrome which, I use did, not let me enter the contest. A red error
message came up. I called Ancestry a patient guy had me try Fierfox
while
he waited to see if It would work. Hooray, it did.
Patricia
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Thanks, Cheri. I missed the show last night but have saved it to my
recorded shows.
MaryAnn Santos
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Who Do You Think You Are? aired in California on TLC. I'm guessing
it's nationwide for those who get TLC (The Learning Channel) from
their TV provider. They are giving away a trip to the motherland if
you watch the episode and answer the question correctly. If you
don't get TLC, but want to enter anyways, the answer is the Civil
War. http://goo.gl/Q34xee
And I tried to enter twice, but I was blocked!
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: second image Santa Maria mid 1600's marriage help
Thanks for looking. If you right click can you download the image and look
at it in a preview or something like that.
I have a mac so I can just move it on to my screen, but that doesn't sound
like an option for you. I can try sending it as a pdf. image. I can also
send it right to you email. Do any of the options sound viable?
Tish
On Friday, July 26, 2013, Richard Francis Pimentel wrote:
*Hi Tish,*
* *
*I can’t get the image larger. If it is coming from the CCA site just
send the link it is easier to enlarge an see.*
* *
*Rick*
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*Richard Francis Pimentel*
*Spring, TX*
*Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire *
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*Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande, Bretanha, and
Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel, Acores*
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marriage help
** **
Hi,
This is the second image I would like help with.
[image: Inline image 1]
I am interested in the record on the left hand page.
On the ... Manoel de Melo, son of Bras de Melo, and his wife Maria Manoel
with Francisca Soares, daughter of Manoel da ? , and his wife Barbara
Farnandes... In this image I am interested in Francisca's parents, not
really anything else.
Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance,
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: second image Santa Maria mid 1600's marriage help
I think you are right! Thanks. On Friday, July 26, 2013, Pam Santos wrote: Franicsca Soares daughter of Manuel de Freitas? maybe On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 6:59 PM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote: try this On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 6:45 PM, Tish M tish.me...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for looking. If you right click can you download the image and look at it in a preview or something like that. I have a mac so I can just move it on to my screen, but that doesn't sound like an option for you. I can try sending it as a pdf. image. I can also send it right to you email. Do any of the options sound viable? Tish On Friday, July 26, 2013, Richard Francis Pimentel wrote: *Hi Tish,* * * *I can’t get the image larger. If it is coming from the CCA site just send the link it is easier to enlarge an see.* * * *Rick* * * *Richard Francis Pimentel* *Spring, TX* *Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire * * * *Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande, Bretanha, and Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel, Acores* * * * * *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Tish M *Sent:* Friday, July 26, 2013 6:45 PM *To:* azores@googlegroups.com *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] second image Santa Maria mid 1600's marriage help ** ** Hi, This is the second image I would like help with. [image: Inline image 1] I am interested in the record on the left hand page. On the ... Manoel de Melo, son of Bras de Melo, and his wife Maria Manoel with Francisca Soares, daughter of Manoel da ? , and his wife Barbara Farnandes... In this image I am interested in Francisca's parents, not really anything else. -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. image001.jpg
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: second image Santa Maria mid 1600's marriage help
Thanks to all. I have a consensus. Now I believe I'm at the end of my rope. On Saturday, July 27, 2013, mances wrote: Sorry, the writing on the image is blurry, I could not read it. Manoel Em sábado, 27 de julho de 2013 01h23min47s UTC-3, Pam Santos escreveu: Hopefully Hermano or Manuel can chime in and see what they see On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 7:56 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel rfrancis...@comcast.net wrote: *I am not too sure it is Freitas. The capital letters above and below seem to run into the name. I think it could be Correa or Vieria.* * * *Rick* ** ** *Richard Francis Pimentel* *Spring, TX* *Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire * ** ** * * *From:* azo...@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.**com] *On Behalf Of *Pam Santos *Sent:* Friday, July 26, 2013 9:03 PM *To:* azo...@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: second image Santa Maria mid 1600's marriage help ** ** Franicsca Soares daughter of Manuel de Freitas? maybe ** ** On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 6:59 PM, Pam Santos pamsa...@gmail.com wrote:* *** try this ** ** On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 6:45 PM, Tish M tish@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for looking. If you right click can you download the image and look at it in a preview or something like that. I have a mac so I can just move it on to my screen, but that doesn't sound like an option for you. I can try sending it as a pdf. image. I can also send it right to you email. Do any of the options sound viable? Tish On Friday, July 26, 2013, Richard Francis Pimentel wrote: *Hi Tish,* * * *I can’t get the image larger. If it is coming from the CCA site just send the link it is easier to enlarge an see.* * * *Rick* * * *Richard Francis Pimentel* *Spring, TX* *Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire * * * *Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande, Bretanha, and Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel, Acores* * * * * *From:* azo...@googlegroups.com [mailto...@googlegroups.**com] *On Behalf Of *Tish M *Sent:* Friday, July 26, 2013 6:45 PM *To:* azo...@googlegroups.com *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] second image Santa Maria mid 1600's marriage help Hi, This is the second image I would like help with. [image: Inline image 1] I am interested in the record on the left hand page. On the ... Manoel de Melo, son of Bras de Melo, and his wife Maria Manoel with Francisca Soares, daughter of Manoel da ? , and his wife Barbara Farnandes... In this image I am interested in Francisca's parents, not really anything else. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance, Tish -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/**group/Azoreshttp://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@**googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azo...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/**group/azoreshttp://groups.google.com/group/azores . -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/**group/Azoreshttp://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@**googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azo...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/**group/azoreshttp://groups.google.com/group/azores . -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/**group/Azoreshttp://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@**googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azo...@googlegroups.com. Visit
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Azores Pyramid Puzzle - Inhabited Earlier Than Thought.
Hi João, Very well put. This will go into my Reference box where I store very well written emails. Thank you, Tish On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 2:47 AM, João Ventura j...@venturas.org wrote: Hi Cindy. Addressing your points, and why I think this pseudo-science pyramids doesn't hold. Regarding continental drift, there is nothing to say.. The Azores are located on top of the rift between the North American, Eurasian and the African plates. There's no drift involved here. The rift is where the mantle is moving apart, and because of that, the mantle is thinner at that point, with lots of magma chimneys almost up to the surface. From time to time, one of those has enough pressure to release the magma into the surface, in the form of volcanoes that when dormant look like peaceful beautiful green islands. The geological time scales here are not compatible with continental drift being a factor. If you study the DNA evidence, you'll see that mankind started in Africa, moved into Europe and Asia, and only moved into North America (and then South) during a time when it was possible to walk from Siberia to Alaska (search for Aleutian land bridge). That's measured in tens of thousands of years. Continental drift is measured in much wider timescales (millions of years). As to early discoverers, you have two options: 1. Early discoverers, that find the place based on pure chance, and then leave, never coming back. There's evidence that such processes occurred with Europeans in North America at different points in time (Vikings, Portuguese and others). Granted, these are nice footnotes, but amount to nothing. They didn't populate the land, so the same land is up to be re-discovered by others. The same process may have happened to the Azores, as proven by their appearance in maps in the 1300s. 2. Settlement efforts based on know-how on getting there. For something like this, the discoverers have to go prepared, taking with them some supplies for the trip and early settlement, and most important men AND women :) To get to the Azores you need to have either repeatable random luck or the ability to know your location when sailing far from land. Ruling out the first one (which apparently enabled the Polinesians to settle Hawaii), you're left with having to wait for Prince Henry to found his sailing school in Sagres. Also, the Atlantic is not the Pacific. there's a reason for the latter's name. A place like the Azores, once settled would remain settled. You have lots of fresh water, fertile earth, trees to build shelter and fishing boats. It's undisputed from the recorded history that the Azores islands were not populated at the time of their discovery by the Portuguese in the 1400s. Even if they were discovered before, those people didn't stay, they either turned back or went on and were lost somewhere else. The Canary islands, which can be seen while still seeing the African coast were settled before this time. Madeira and the Azores require more advanced sailing techniques and remained uninhabited until their settlement by the Portuguese. Note that apart from some references in 14th century (early 1300s maps), there's no evidence at all in the ground that those places were settled before. Even discounting that anything useful left would have been cleared by later settlement efforts, there's no trace of any Phoenician, Greek or Roman presence there. It seems idiotic to you, but you need to explain why the island wasn't inhabited by 1000s of native Azoreans on the arrival of the Portuguese and why they had to recruit settlers from mainland Portugal to colonize the Azores. You have a choice between two puzzles: why no one settled them (easy to explain) or why did all the pre-1400 settlers build only a couple of pyramids and then vanished without a single trace. The last scenario is so complex to explain that the simple explanation is that it never existed in the first place. I'm fairly certain that these pyramids were investigated by the UNESCO scientists that declared them to be World Heritage monuments, and their association with the wine culture is well known. Those pyramids were built to protect the wine culture which was started by the early settlers. Unfortunately, these pyramids are made of volcanic rock.. The carbon-14 dating would only tell from which volcano eruption they originated from. The good thing is that wine is the sort of stuff you grow only when you've already taken care of a lot of other needs, and you moved from survival to civilized mode. Unfortunately, certain people see a pyramid, and they immediately start thinking of ancient cultures and aliens, deeper meanings and conspiracy theories. The only problem is when they call themselves scientists and manage to get their crazy ideas published in normal newspapers. If you're waiting for further evidence on this case, you'll probably find them all coming from this one source. They
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] ADN Family Finder Test
Many people in the section Pending Relationships point a person out as
his/her cousin so they can use the common with boolean expression to see
who is related to you and them. Unfortunately this is the only way you can
use the boolean expression. It is very much a fishing expedition, and as
far as I'm concerned tells you very little. Let's say you are A and the
person you say you are in common with is B. You run the list and you find
you have C, D, E and F in common with B. That is all well and good, but it
does not mean C , D, E and F have anything in common with each other (they
might... and they might not). You would have to run each separately.
Unfortunately, not many have their trees available. You can write them and
tell them you noted they listed you as a cousin and you are curious if
their is a connection. They may, or may not get back to you. Kind of
frustrating.
Best of luck,
Tish
On Sunday, September 29, 2013, Eliseu Manuel Pacheco da Silva wrote:
Hi!
** **
Family Finder Test QUESTIONS:
** **
- In the section Pending Relationships somebody pointed me out as his/her
cousin. This “pointer” person does not have her or his pedigree gedcom. How
do I know/confirm the selection she/he did? Now I am asked to point out our
which relationship he or she is to me… I WOULD LOVE to answer back to
confirm or remove it, but…
- When should I hit the assign button of the known relationship column?***
*
- When I cannot find any relation in comparing both pedigrees does it mean:
- the test is wrong
- the pedigree gedcom is wrong
- the pedigree gedcom is not complete (even if it seems to)
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Muito Obrigado J,
*Eliseu Pacheco da Silva*
*(S. Miguel, Graciosa, Alentejo)*
*Azores Genealogy Group *
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] CCA site error?
Logged in California, Oct 18th 11:29 AM. Used Safari, no problems.
On Friday, October 18, 2013, Jose A Medeiros wrote:
Logging on OK, using IE and Windows 7
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Thank You to the Translators/obrigado aos tradutores
Very well written. Very well said. I agree with your assessments of those mentioned. Cheri and Kathy have given so much to the Azorean genealogy community along with the rest. I would also like to include George Pacheco in the mix. Best wishes to all, Tish On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 10:59 AM, Anthony Soares asoaresph...@gmail.comwrote: I thought it would be appropriate to take a moment to say muito obrigado and many thanks to the fine members who take their time to assist us newbies in translating records. Cheri Mello,Pam Santos,Joao Ventura,Hermano Pires,Richard Pimentel and Mara ( who have helped me personally) and all others who help with translations. It is easy for us newbs to get overly excited and post for translation help too fast,I have learned to slow down and if needed come back to the record with fresh eyes later. I have also found Azores Gen Web a fantastic resource,muito obrigado to Cheri Mello and Kathy Cardoza, most notably the Paleography section. Looking forward to when I am good enough to pay it forward and start helping with translations. Muito Obrigado Tony -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Anton Souza Santos
Sandra, Here is a link about state hospital burials. http://www.californiaclients.org/projects/facts040202.cfm Tish On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 9:13 AM, Sandra Valine Dauer acore...@gmail.comwrote: Thank you for the suggestion Sandra Valine Dauer On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 6:19 AM, yukonang...@aol.com wrote: Sandra, did you ask if they had a burial site at the hosp, Sonoma state used to bury on site. In a message dated 12/30/2013 6:06:31 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, acore...@gmail.com writes: My Grandfather's brother,Antonio Vieira Valim, died 1906 Jan 06 at Napa State Hospital. Attached death record listed his cause of death --Exhaustion and contribution Organic Disease of _ He is one of my brick walls, unable to locate his burial location. Have written cemeteries in the area. Contacted Napa State hospital, Imola Ca 94558 and records where destroyed 10 years after death. Undertaker Sanborn records were not located. Sandra Valine Dauer On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva eliseuman...@gmail.com wrote: Now I understand the way my students look to me when I tell them the next assignment will be to draw a 5th generation tree of their family in order to understand how hereditary characteristics work… J I Knew there was something wrong: they must know about that list!!! (Mainly the one of: Over taxing mental powers) -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] need alittle help please.
Nossa Senhora das Candeias is also known as Nossa Senhora da Purificação. It is in Santo Espírito. If you give me an approximate date for Maria de Melo's birth I might be able to help you. On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 12:30 PM, Margaret Vicente margaretvice...@gmail.com wrote: Well done, you didn't exactly say what you needed help with but if translation there's just a minor correction..Maria de Melo natural of Nossa Senhora das Candeias, Ilha de Santa Maria, daughter of Manuel Fernandes Gonçalves and of his wife Angela Velha (feminine of Velho) Cheers, Margaret Vicente On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 2:57 PM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote: George is my kids 9th great grandfather below is what I have (You may have this already) On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 11:40 AM, blackice...@comcast.net wrote: Hello Friends Its been sometime since I have been on here. I've started my genealogy again since my dad passed away and I'm coming across a few certificates that I need some help with. I'm wondering if I could get some help. I'm searching in Relva Ponta Delgada. The source is 1673-1708 # 0096. casamentos This is what I came up with. Joao Benevidez and Maria Mello. Jan 15, 1708 in Nossa Senhora das Neves . He is from Relva, son of George Ferreira already dead and Petronilha de Benevidez. Mary Mello, from the ilha of Santa Maria . Nossa Senhora das Candeiras ( Candelaria) This is in the ilha of sao Miguel. She is the daughter of Manuel Francisco Luiz I think ?? and Angela Velho??? This is what I have. I'm sure there are mistakes and after awhile the eyes play tricks on you. I'd appreciate any help. Thanks and God Bless Pat -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Margaret M Vicente -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] genealogy program
Here is a good source if you are interested in what's out there for Mac users. http://blog.eogn.com/eastmans_online_genealogy/2013/03/genealogy-programs-for-macintosh.html I use reunion, but I'm certainly not married to it. I might give some of these a try. Tish On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 11:23 AM, Kathy Cardoza kmacard...@me.com wrote: MaryAnn Santos: I am a devoted Mac user, but as someone else stated, I haven't really found a Mac genealogy program that I'm happy with. I have tried them all. Almost all of the following have a free demo version, always with limitations, but it's a great way to try out software before you decide which one meets your needs. Here are the top 5: Reunion, http://www.leisterpro.com/index.php, has always been the most popular for Macs. I used it from version 4 thru the current version, but it's sadly lacking in many areas and I really don't like the new interface. That, of course, is just my opinion, for what that's worth. Family Tree Maker 3, https://www.familytreemaker.com/Products/Mac, is another popular Mac program but I don't think it offers a demo version. It is affiliated with Ancestry.com. Mac FamilyTree, http://www.syniumsoftware.com/macfamilytree/, is a program that offers a demo version so you can try it out. I believe it is fully functional but doesn't allow you to save or print. Heredis 2014 offers a demo version http://www.heredis.com/en/heredis-2014-for-mac/ There is no time limit on this free demo but you are limited to 50 people. iFamily for Leopard, http://ifamilyforleopard.com. This also has a demo version. You can read about and compare features of all these programs and more here: Mac Genealogy Reviews: http://genealogy-software-review.toptenreviews.com/mac-genealogy-software/index.html Personally, I run Parallels on my Mac so that I have a complete Windows 7 computer within my Mac. So, with that, I use Legacy 8 and love it! It fulfills all my needs and has a pleasant, easy to use interface. With some type of virtualization software such as Parallels, VM Fusion, and others, you can use any Windows program you want. I hated to go over to the dark side but I never was happy with Mac genealogy offerings. Remember, these are just my opinions . different folks have different needs and expectations. With the exception of FTM, all of the above programs have demo modes so that you can try before you buy. You can't ask for more than that! Good luck, Kathy Cardoza ~~~ Visit the Azores GenWeb Project: http://www.rootsweb.com/~azrwgw/index.html Climb my Family Tree: http://www.kathys-place.com/index.html ~~~ On Jan 29, 2014, at 4:41 AM, MaryAnn Santos m...@nyu.edu wrote: What about software for Macs. I use Reunion but don't really like it that much. It seems clunky to me and looks dated. I also bought FTM and MacTree but haven't made the switch to one of these yet. I'm leaning towards MacTree because navigation seems more intuitive. Any opinions from Mac users? MaryAnn Santos -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] genealogy program
I have been playing with Heredis all afternoon (a pretty complete trial program) and I am pretty impressed. The learning curve was minimal and it thinks like I do. It gives you a list of all your duplicates and shows you both entries with a merged entry in the middle. You can then work with the entry that will be merged and pick and choose what you want to keep. You then hit something like merge entry and bam!, the duplicates are gone and all that is left is the merged entry. Not sure what happens if you decided you made a mistake... It also does a good job on relationships (maybe more than you care to know). Check it out. It works for Mac and PC. Tish On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 1:08 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Dick Eastman just wrote that GRAMPS has a new version. It runs on Macs and PCs: http://goo.gl/o3glim -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Azores Genealogy Conference in Salt Lake City, Utah, April 15-18, 2014
I would be interested in the UC Berkeley class. Maybe I missed the information? Time, Place etc. Thanks, Tish Meals On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 10:19 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Lynn, Yes, there are 3 Portuguese genealogy events going on in April. 1) Salt Lake City, Utah: This is a 4 day conference hosted by 3 speakers (me, Rosemarie, and Joao Ventura, archivist). We are doing lectures, computer lab, and personal help from us. We cover everything, from the beginning genealogist just getting started with their home records, trying to find clues as to the freguesia over there, to navigating, organization, and utilizing and reading the records over there. We also have a couple of bonus type classes: genealogy software, planning a research trip, and DNA. More detail on the classes can be found here: goo.gl/E9FHvV 2) UC Berkeley, in Berkeley, California, hosted by Luso-American: This is 1 day class, all lecture format. I believe Joao is going to cover how the records are organized over there, what information they contain and how to read them. He can explain more. 3) Mini-workshops, in Hayward, California: I need to find Joao's flyer, but I think he's still going over the records in the Azores, how they are organized, etc, just like above, but he will have hard copy examples (I think) where he will sit with you and help you learn to read (just like us in Salt Lake). His groups are limited to 10. He can explain more. For 2 3, you need to have your freguesia or at least pretend like you do. Joao is not going to cover how to use American records to find your freguesia in the Azores. Many local genealogy societies and Family History Centers offer classes on tracing your immigrant ancestor in your home country using those home resources. Does this clarify the three choices somewhat? Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] ftDNA email about MyHeritage
Has anyone joined MyHeritage? Billions of records are nice, but... If anyone has info on the site I would be interested in their input. Thanks, Tish Meals -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] ftDNA email about MyHeritage
Thank you very much. I do have an Ancestry subscription. I thought it may be redundant. It would be hard to amass all the records Ancestry has. Family Search does a good job and has the resources to leave Ancestry in their dust. Tish Meals On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 9:35 PM, Mary Bordi busybo...@gmail.com wrote: I joined last year just to see what it's like. I don't think it's worth it. I did find a family tree posted there that has a link to my family but the people never got back to me when I contacted them. I didn't find any records I couldn't access from Ancestry. But then I haven't logged on for months. If you already have Ancestry, don't bother. Of course, just my opinion! Mary On Monday, February 3, 2014, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Since Ancestry.com has lots of records (US and Canada, mostly) and they offer DNA testing too, FTDNA had to partner up with someone of offer something comparable. I haven't looked in a while, but I think they were heavy U.S. records. Since I already have an Ancestry subscription, I passed on it. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage records
Hi Margaret, My husband and I have finished the baptisms from Santa Barbara, Santa Maria and I am now on to the marriages. Now I need a few new Portuguese words. What words will tip me off as to if the nubentes were related. Thanks in advance, Tish -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage records
Of course I will share. Since I am still in the midst of cataloging my photos I have not done much with the databases. If you would like the photos whether they pertain to you or not I will send them directly to you, one by one. I don't remember and Cordeiros and very few Tavares do Regos... There are plenty of Soares. On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 7:53 PM, Sam Koester sam...@surewest.net wrote: Tish; If you should come across any records on Cordeiro, Soares, Coelho, Tavares do Rego; I would greatly appreciate you sharing them with me. Many thanks in advance, Sam in CA Sam in CA researching: Cordeiro,Soares, Coelho, Tavares do Rego in Santa Maria; Faria in Pedro Miguel, Faial; Fraga in Sao Jorge and Silva (island unknown). On 1/12/2010 5:39 PM, Tish M wrote: Hi Margaret, My husband and I have finished the baptisms from Santa Barbara, Santa Maria and I am now on to the marriages. Now I need a few new Portuguese words. What words will tip me off as to if the nubentes were related. Thanks in advance, Tish -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comazores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage records
Theresa, Amazing. I know how hard it is to read these records. For starters I would be interested in Captain Manoel de Sousa de Figueiredo and Dona Isabel de Chaves who were the parents of Joam Soares de Figueiredo. I have Joam's marriage record 20 May 1708. Joam married Maria de Braga, father Gaspar de Braga (deceased) and his wife Francisca de Morais. I believe both sets of parents records will probably be found in Vila do Porto. I have Francisca's obit from Santa Barbara.MAR100_0080 Joam Soares de Figueiredo and Maria de Braga.JPGfile://localhost/Users/Tish/Desktop/Santa%20Ba%CC%81rbara,%20Santa%20Maria%20Marriages/1648-1716/MAR100_0080%20Joam%20Soares%20de%20Figueiredo%20and%20Maria%20de%20Braga.JPG file://localhost/Users/Tish/Desktop/Santa%20Ba%CC%81rbara,%20Santa%20Maria%20Marriages/1648-1716/MAR100_0080%20Joam%20Soares%20de%20Figueiredo%20and%20Maria%20de%20Braga.JPGI included the marriage record for Joam. There are a few words I can not make out, but I think I have the gist. Thank you for any help. Tish On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 8:29 PM, ten...@fullchannel.net wrote: Hi Tish, I have completed all the births, marriages and deaths in Santo Espirito, Santa Maria. I have all the earliest marriages of Santa Barbara and Vila do Porto completed. If you give me the names I can check my database to see if I have the genealogy you are looking for. Theresa Hi Margaret, My husband and I have finished the baptisms from Santa Barbara, Santa Maria and I am now on to the marriages. Now I need a few new Portuguese words. What words will tip me off as to if the nubentes were related. Thanks in advance, Tish -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comazores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comazores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage records
Hi, You have made my year... and it's only Jan. 13th! I can now go to FHC and photograph those records. I'm sure my cousin will be overjoyed, too. Thank you oh so much, Tish On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 8:33 PM, ten...@fullchannel.net wrote: Hi, What you have is basically what I have, I do have the descendants of Manuel Soares Figueiredo and Isabel Chaves. I do not have any children for him and Isabel Nunes Braga, his second wife. I have the same info that you have for Maria Braga, Dona. I have Gaspar Braga as her father, but I have Maria Morais as his wife not Francisca. I will recheck my information about this couple. I do not have any parents beyond the ones we both have. - 1 Gaspar Braga -- Birth: abt 1656 Death: bef 1708, Santa Barbara, Santa Maria, Acores Spouse: Maria Morais Birth: 1656, Santa Barbara, Santa Maria, Acores Death: 8 Dec 1716, Santa Barbara, Santa Maria, Acores Marriage: abt 1687, Santa Barbara, Santa Maria, Acores Children: Maria , Dona (1689-1761) -- 1 Manuel Soares Figueiredo , Capitao -- Birth: abt 1668 Spouse: Isabel Chaves , Dona Birth: abt 1668, Vila do Porto, Santa Maria, Acores Death: bef 1716 Marriage: abt 1687, Vila Porto, Santa Maria, Acores Children: Joao Soares , Alferes (1689-1749) Maria Josefa Other spouses: Isabel Nunes Braga 1.1 Joao Soares Figueiredo , Alferes -- Birth: 1689, Santa Barbara, Santa Maria, Acores Death: 3 Sep 1749, Santa Barbara, Santa Maria, Acores Spouse: Maria Braga , Dona Birth: 1689, Santa Barbara, Santa Maria, Acores Death: 28 Jul 1761, Gloriosa, Santa Barbara, Santa Maria, Acores Father: Gaspar Braga (~1656-1708) Mother: Maria Morais (1656-1716) Marriage: 22 May 1708, Santa Barbara, Santa Maria, Acores Children: Margarida EspÌrito , Dona (1708-1763) Unknown (~1710-) Inacio Sousa (1727-1762) Francisca , Dona (1730-1763) Isabel Francisca , Dona (1732-1765) MaurÌcio Sousa (1736-1766) Jose Soares (~1724-) 1.1.1 Margarida EspÌrito Santo , Dona -- Birth: 1708, Santa Barbara, Santa Maria, Acores Death: 20 Feb 1763, Norte, Santa Barbara, Santa Maria, Acores Burial: Feb 1763, Santa Barbara, Santa Maria, Acores 1.1.2 Unknown Daughter -- Birth: abt 1710 Spouse: Manuel Coelho Resendes 1.1.3 Inacio Sousa Figueiredo -- Birth: 1727, Santa Barbara, Santa Maria, Acores Death: 18 Nov 1762, Santa Barbara, Santa Maria, Acores Burial: Nov 1762, Ingreja Gloriosa, Santa Barbara, Santa Maria, Acores 1.1.4 Francisca Reis , Dona -- Birth: 1730, Santa Barbara, Santa Maria, Acores Death: 1 Sep 1763, Norte, Santa Barbara, Santa Maria, Acores Burial: Sep 1763, Ingreja Gloriosa, Santa Barbara, Santa Maria, Acores 1.1.5 Isabel Francisca Figueiredo , Dona -- Birth: 1732, Santa Barbara, Santa Maria, Acores Death: 14 Jan 1765, Norte, Santa Barbara, Santa Maria, Acores Burial: Jan 1765, Gloriosa, Santa Barbara, Santa Maria, Acores Spouse: Jose Soares Birth: abt 1718, Santa Barbara, Santa Maria, Acores Father: Manuel Soares (~1696-1729) Mother: Isabel Sousa (~1696-1739) Marriage: 22 Jun 1757, Santa Barbara, Santa Maria, Acores 1.1.6 MaurÌcio Sousa Figueiredo -- Birth: 1736, Santa Barbara, Santa Maria, Acores Death: 14 May 1766, Santa Barbara, Santa Maria, Acores Burial: May 1766, Santa Barbara, Santa Maria, Acores Spouse: Rosa Maria Santa Barbara Birth: abt 1736 1.1.7a Jose Soares Figueiredo* -- Birth: abt 1724, Santa Barbara, Santa Maria, Acores Spouse: Ana Anjos Death: bef 1760, Santo EspÌrito, Santa Maria, Acores Father: Antonio Fontes Pires (~1676-1743) Mother: Maria Santo Antonio Velho (1676-1723) Marriage: 18 Oct 1744, Santo EspÌrito, Santa Maria, Acores Children: Jacinta Bernardina , Dona (-1812) Ignacia Rosa , Dona (~1752-1815) Other spouses: Maria Santo Antonio , Dona 1.1.7a.1 Jacinta Bernardina Figueiredo , Dona -- Death: 21 Dec 1812, Almagreia, Santa Maria, Acores Spouse: Joao Inacio Resendes Birth: abt 1759, Santa Barbara, Santa Maria, Acores Death: 8 Apr 1830, Santo EspÌrito, Santa Maria, Acores Father: Jose Moura (~1739-1792) Mother: Mariana Jesus , Dona Marriage: 11 Mar 1789, Santo EspÌrito, Santa Maria, Acores Children: Jose (1792-) 1.1.7a.1.1 Jose Loura
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage records
Hi, You are right on. These are the people I am looking for. I have yet to really look at much of Vila do Porto on the films, but after my cataract surgery next week my husband and I will look in earnest. Thank you very much, Tish On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 3:10 AM, marra...@cs.com wrote: In a message dated 1/14/2010 1:12:50 AM Eastern Standard Time, tish.me...@gmail.com writes: Hi, You have made my year... and it's only Jan. 13th! I can now go to FHC and photograph those records. I'm sure my cousin will be overjoyed, too. Thank you oh so much, Tish Could this be the people you are looking for? 7 - Manuel de Sousa Figueiredo, capt, m. 1st time in Vila do Porto to Isabel de Chaves Meneses, and the 2nd time in Vila do Porto on ?.5.1716 to Isabel Nunes de Braga, From the first marriage: 8 - Margarida de Chaves orde Sousa, married in Vila do Porto on 21.9.1709 ro capt. Manuel de Sousa Resendes 8 - Isabel de Chaves Meneses, 8 - Maria Josefa de Figueiredo, married in Vila do Porto on 30.7.1727 to Diogo Velho de Sousa If it is let me know. I may be able to help. John Miranda Raposo -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comazores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage records
Thank you is such a small response to the mounds of information you have sent to me. I feel so humbled to have received such a wonderful present and will spend many an hour pouring through your three hours of work. I went on line and looked at the articles you have written and was also humbled by your wealth of information. I hope you will write more about the islands history and the wonderful people I am proud to be a part of. Thank you again, Tish On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 5:50 PM, marra...@cs.com wrote: In a message dated 1/14/2010 3:05:54 PM Eastern Standard Time, tish.me...@gmail.com writes: Hi,You are right on. These are the people I am looking for. I have yet to really look at much of Vila do Porto on the films, but after my cataract surgery next week my husband and I will look in earnest. Thank you very much, Tish Here is what I have; it took me 3 hours to extract it all and type it in this e-mail; I hope it helps. The primary source is Rodrigo Rodrigues. Good luck! John Miranda Raposo 1 - Domingos Fernandes, knight, as noted on the will he made with his wife in Vila do Porto on 2.9.1560 (or 1562 ?). Native of Madeira, among the first settlers in Santo Espírito, (See Frutuoso, Livro III, Cap.º V) maybe a grandson of Genes Curvelo Married in Santa Maria to Margarida Afonso, daughter of *Duarte Nunes Velho *(See (Sanches de Baena, *Archivo Heraldico-Genealógico*, pp. 636); They had: 2 - *Marquesa Fernandes*, made her will on 18.2.1583 in Santa Maria, with her husband Baltazar Velho de Andrade 2 - Manuel Fernandes Faleiro, second son of his father, made a will on 16.1.1596. (See Frutuoso Livro III, Cap.º V). He was first married to Bárbara Velho and then to Maria Velho, a Velha. By his second wife he had: 3 - Helena Fernandes de Melo or Velho was first married in Vila Porto em 1600, to Fernão Vaz de Santo Espírito (?) and the 2nd time in Matriz de Vila Porto on 23.9.1609, to Manuel Pires Faleiro, son of Domingos Pires de Chaves and Clara Melõa or Manuel granddaughter of Manuel Pires do Campo. From her 2nd husband: 4 - Manuel de Melo Chaves, living in Flor da Rosa and married to *Maria de Magalhães Bettencourt.* They had: 4 - Margarida de Chaves, married in Matriz de Vila Porto in 1661 to *António Soares de Sousa Falcão * They had: 5 - *Isabel de Chaves, married to Manuel de Sousa Figueiredo.* 1 - João da Fonte das Cortes, one of the first settlers in Santa Maria (See Frutuoso Liv.º II Cap.º III § XIX). Married *Inês Afonso.* Parents of: 2 - Álvaro da Fonte, o Velho, a judge in Vila do Porto, on 25.11.1519 (See Arquivo dos Açores Vol. I p. 72 and Vid. Frutuoso, Liv.º III Chapters III § XIX V § XVIII, Cap.º IX § II and Liv.º IV Chapter XIII § I. He had by one of his two wives: 3 - Inês de Fontes, married Baltazar Curvelo, o Gago, of Almagreira. They had: 4 - Manuel Curvelo, married Isabel Gonçalves de Moura. They had: 5 - António Curvelo de Moura, married in Vila do Porto on 21.3.1612 to Catarina Meloa, daughter of Domingos Pires de Chaves and Clara Meloa. Parents of: 6 - Francisco Curvelo de Moura married 1st in Vila do Porto on 9.10.1645 to Maria de Andrade, daughter of Manuel Curvelo Faleiro and Isabel de Andrade Velho and then to *Serafina de Figueiredo*. By the 2nd wife: 7 - Manuel de Sousa Figueiredo, Capt., who married 1st in Vila do Porto to *Isabel de Chaves Meneses*, and then in Vila do Porto on ?.5.1716 to Isabel Nunes de Braga, --- 1 - Fernão Velho, knight in the order if Santiago, son of Gonçalo Velho, [see Crónica de D. Dinis, Livro III, pp. 7 v.º ] (bastard of João Velho de Santa Logriça) and his wife Margarida Anes de Urró. He married Maria Álvares Cabral, daughter of Álvaro Gil Cabral, and ? Figueiredo daughter of Diogo Afonso de Figueiredo. Parents of: 2 - Violante Velho Cabral lived in Portugal where she married Diogo Gonçalves de Travassos, (Forrester of Prince D. Pedro, Duke of Coimbra) son of Martim Gonçalves de Travassos, a nobleman of Portugal and Catarina Dias de Melo, (See Frutuoso Livro IV, Cap.º 3.º) Parents of: 3 - Nuno Velho de Travassos or Nuno Velho Cabral, who came as a child to Santa Maria with his uncle *Gonçalo Velho Cabral*. Married for the first time in S. Miguel to Isabel Afonso, for the 2nd time on S. Miguel to África Anes, who came with her father Gonçalo Anes, of Cernandessa, Portugal, to Santa Maria, By his 2nd wife he had: 4 - *Duarte Nunes Velho*, knight, resident of Malbusca, made his will as a widower on 18.10.1554, when he was more than 90 years old. Married in Portugal for the first time to Isabel Fernandes, and then to Catarina Gonçalves, daughter of Gonçalo Álvares (See Frutuoso, Livro
[AZORES-Genealogy] dictionary
Hi, Since getting so much information in the last few days my curiosity has lead me to information I want to explore, which I found online. It, of course is written in Portuguese. My Portuguese has been limited to reading baptisms, but my desire to learn more about Santa Maria has led me to expand my horizons. I would like to know if there is a good Portuguese to English, English to Portuguese dictionary that I can get, in hard copy and/or a computer copy (not an online translator). Right now I am trying Ultralingua which is adequate, but before buying it I would like to have some input from those more accomplished than me. This is the site that has the books I am interested in examining. http://www.azoreangenealogy.com/biblioteca_acoreana_livros.htm Tish -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] dictionary
I thank both of you for your suggestions of Furtado Imports. I will go down to San Jose and look at them. On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 11:34 PM, sarab...@aol.com wrote: Trish, I agree with Rosemarie. I have 2 or 3 different dictionaries and the best one by far was from Furtado Imports up in San Jose. It had cost a little more but was *so* much better. Arline Silveira in Grover Beach Trish, I have both that I purchased from Furtado Imports, San Jose CA. Their phone number is 408.293.0401. I paid $50 for each one but they are both invaluable in translating! Rosemarie -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comazores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
[AZORES-Genealogy] santa maria land ownership
I have been talking to my cousin and she has told me the family story of how in 1910 when our great grandfather, Jose Soares de Figueiredo died, he left land that later became the US Air Force Base in Santa Maria. I wondered if there was a way to tell who owned that land prior to 1910 or of the sale of the land in 1910. Any suggestions? Tish -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] santa maria land ownership
Sorry I didn't make myself clear. On the island of Santa Maria in the Azores. Lajes Air Force Base. Tish On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 11:09 PM, Ronnie French rmfre...@charter.netwrote: Tish, There are two bases that I can think of in the area. One is what used to be called Camp Cook and is now Vandenberg Air Force Base. It's actually between the city of Santa Maria and the city of Lompoc, but not in either city. It sits on the Ocean and many missiles and satellites are launched from Vandenberg AFB. The other is Hancock Field. It was a private air field with a private flyer training center. It was contracted by the government as a flyer training center before and during WWII. It had hangers and a runway and field. It is now in the hands of a Trust who takes care of the resources, including railroad land and land in Southern California. The land where Allan Hancock College in Santa Maria is currently was once part of the air field. This air field is now almost in the middle of the City of Santa Maria. The railroad went from Santa Maria to Guadalupe, where the crops were to the Spreckles plant where they processed sugar in the Santa Maria Valley area. So, you have two places where your great grandfather may have owned land. Both are in Santa Barbara County and I am sure you can get the land records from the County. There is a County office in Santa Maria and they may be of help, otherwise, you'd have to check at the Santa Barbara/Goleta main offices. There are other people on line in the group that may know more than I. Maybe, they will speak up. Also, there's a Santa Maria Museum. It was next to the Chamber of Commerce on South Broadway about 10 years ago, which is the last time I was down in that area. Either the Chamber or the Museum may be of help. There are a lot of Old Timers in Santa Maria, many still in farming. If you can touch base with one or two of them, they may remember your family or the location of the land. Good luck, Ronnie - Original Message - *From:* Tish M tish.me...@gmail.com *To:* Azores@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, January 16, 2010 4:18 PM *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] santa maria land ownership I have been talking to my cousin and she has told me the family story of how in 1910 when our great grandfather, Jose Soares de Figueiredo died, he left land that later became the US Air Force Base in Santa Maria. I wondered if there was a way to tell who owned that land prior to 1910 or of the sale of the land in 1910. Any suggestions? Tish -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comazores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comazores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Leaves from the Portuguese Olive KO. III
Can anyone enlighten me regarding Leaves from the Portuguese Olive, a ballad preserved by Monk Brito? Is this fact or fiction, the story of Princess Fatima and Goestor Ansur? -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Mt. St. Joseph Cemetery in Hayward, CA
Hi Celeste, How were you able to extract the records? I have been to St Mary's cemetery in Oakland, CA and I was lucky to get the location of my grandparents grave. Do you happen to know if it is easy to get records from the churches. My mother and her siblings were baptized at St Leo's, also in Oakland. While I'm at it, has anyone obtained baptismal information from Mission San Jose, in Fremont CA from the 1880's? Any ideas of how to get information of births of Alameda Co. in the 1880's? Thanks, Tish On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 7:14 PM, celeste perry ccgran...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Eric, Welcome to the group. Mt. St. Joseph Cemetery is located on Walpert St. In the olden days, you could only reach the cemetery via Second St. Walpert is the street just past the castle. Now, Walpert runs between Second St and Mission Blvd. This cemetery was begun about 1875 and served the Hayward area for the most part. When I was extracting the record, I heard that because a lot of babies were buried it was sometimes referred to the Cemetery of the Babies and that many people from other areas had their babies buried there. I have the records for the most part from the beginning of the burials until about 1960. At the time I extracted the records, there was one more book and I was not allowed to include that book. It is pretty much true that Catholics buried from All Saints Church were buried there until Holy Sepulchre was started in 1937, I think. The cemetery does not have perpetual care so families had to tend the graves themselves. Now, I think the church does some maintenance; however, there has been a lot of vandalism. If you have any additional questions, just email me privately. Celeste, Hayward, CA Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com --- On *Mon, 4/19/10, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com* wrote: From: Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] St. Joseph Cemetery in Hayward, CA To: Azores Genealogy Azores@googlegroups.com Date: Monday, April 19, 2010, 10:43 AM Repost for Eric Gomes at gomes.ancestry at gmail.com Hi all, I have belonged to the group for about two months... And I have been reading the messages to try and understand the format before I send out my first reply/email/message... In otherwords I have a lot of questions etc., because my Azorean/Sao Miguel tree goes back three or four generation to the point that we know which boat most of my gg- grandparents travelled to Hawaii on. I am going to start with a question to Celeste. In the message below you mention the St. Joseph cemetery in Hayward. Where is that located?? I grew up in Hayward (and now live in Castro Valley) Thanks, Eric Gomes -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comazores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comazores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: need eyes, too
Thank you very much. There is so much to learn. I, as many of you, wish we had our relatives to answer our questions. It is so nice to have such knowledgeable relatives to answer many of our questions. I have learned so much in such a short time. Thank you once again, Tish On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 5:39 AM, JR jro...@rogers.com wrote: They did not receive the blessings because it was at a time that was prohibited. This is common enough and usually means they are marrying or asking for the blessing at a prohibited religious time. The rest is simply the regular reference to the record as above. JR On Apr 19, 1:24 pm, Tish M tish.me...@gmail.com wrote: Hello to all, Here is a marriage from 1745. Everything went fine until this section. This is what I know, Line 1 Dos Anjos daughter of Manoel Soares, deceased and his Line 2 wife, Isabel de Sousa, both ? (I'm wondering, against being baptized in Santa Barbara Church?) Line 5 and 5 years; No ? Joam ? I hope someone can help. Thanks, Tish -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comazores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group athttp:// groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. question.jpg 566KViewDownload -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comazores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Mt. St. Joseph Cemetery in Hayward, CA
Thank you very much. I guess all I can do is ask. My problem is I am not affiliated with any Catholic Church so I guess I would have to make a connection with someone at the church, highly unlikely. By the way, what did you do with your dBase files. Are you still able to read them? I take it you grew up in Hayward? I grew up in the Oakland area and I believe my mother was in the Holy Ghost one time in San Leandro. Thanks for telling your story, Tish On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 10:20 AM, celeste perry ccgran...@yahoo.com wrote: Well, Tish, it was just a fluke that enabled me to extract the information and put it into a database. I wanted to know where my uncle had been buried. I knew he had died at the age of 3 months and that my grandparents attended All Saints church. As it happened, the pastor at the time I tried to find the baby, was a priest that I knew personally. He had come to All Saints when I was in the 8th grade there and I had helped with with translations. Long story short, Fr. Oliveira let me bring all the books home to look through them for the baby's burial. I had been with a friend in KA looking for her ancestors and had seen a card file a woman had made up from the burial information for a cemetery there. I began a card file and found it just did not work, too many entries about the same people in different books; a deed book, a plot book, a mass book, the grave digger's book. So, I learned how to use a computer database, set up my own file in Dbase and began a 4 year journey down the burial of a whole lot of people. When I finally finished, there was a new pastor and the last book (which was still being used to enter burials) and he told me I could not take the book from the office of the church. Thus ended my extractions. I had success looking at the books for one of the Oakland Portuguese churches, Mary Help of Christians, which was demolished when the freeway was built. The books were sent to St. Elizabeth's Church and, when I was searching for information, they allowed me to make an appt. and look at the books. St. Leander's in San Leandro also allowed me to search their books for baptisms, marriages, etc. I have not had experience at any of the other churches in the Hayward area. If all else fails, there is a church archive in Menlo Park at St. Patrick's Seminary that has microfilm from the Archdiocese of San Francisco (before the Diocese of Oakland was formed) and ancient readers. It is not easy to make appts; the readers are a challenge; the person who was in charge did not offer any help; however, there was a nun who vounteered and she was very kind, although she did not know much about the records. You got to files, you pick through the microfilms, you figure out how to read them and you refile the film. As you can guess, things are not always easy to find. I do not think births in Alameda County HAD to be recorded in 1880. My mother was born in 1919, at home, and her birth was not recorded. However, when she filed for SSI, she had to get her baptismal record and a statement from 3 neighbors that knew of her birth and a belated birth certificate was filed. The baptismal records were used for some civil filing after the fact. Another possibility is the death record that was filed at the time of the death. I found one for someone who died in 1906, in San Leandro, CA. Of course, the dead person's name was the name of his son and the informant was the name of the deceased! I had solid information that Frank had died on the date of the record so I think it was not only the priests in the Azores who had too much wine, it sometimes was also those who wrote records in other places! So Tish, can you find information from different churches, MAYBE. Celeste, Hayward, CA Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com --- On *Mon, 4/19/10, Tish M tish.me...@gmail.com* wrote: From: Tish M tish.me...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Mt. St. Joseph Cemetery in Hayward, CA To: azores@googlegroups.com Date: Monday, April 19, 2010, 8:09 PM Hi Celeste, How were you able to extract the records? I have been to St Mary's cemetery in Oakland, CA and I was lucky to get the location of my grandparents grave. Do you happen to know if it is easy to get records from the churches. My mother and her siblings were baptized at St Leo's, also in Oakland. While I'm at it, has anyone obtained baptismal information from Mission San Jose, in Fremont CA from the 1880's? Any ideas of how to get information of births of Alameda Co. in the 1880's? Thanks, Tish On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 7:14 PM, celeste perry ccgran...@yahoo.comhttp://us.mc506.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ccgran...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Eric, Welcome to the group. Mt. St. Joseph Cemetery is located on Walpert St. In the olden days, you could only reach the cemetery via Second St. Walpert is the street just past the castle. Now, Walpert runs
[AZORES-Genealogy] geneall.net/p/
Hi to All, Just curious, does anyone belong to geneall.net/p/? It is an interesting site, very well managed. Much of the site can be browsed free, but they say there is more information available to those who belong. I am always leery of such sites, thought I would ask those who might know. Thanks, Tish -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Church Records in Northern California - St. Patrick's Seminary
Do you know if they have birth and baptismal records from Mission San Jose 1887-1901? thanks, Tish On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 1:12 PM, Kawika322 oldschoo...@gmail.com wrote: I wanted to let everyone know about a recent resource that I have come across when looking up my families records. The Chancery Archives at St. Patrick's Seminary at 320 Middlefield Road, Menlo Park, California has a large collection of microfilmed church records (Baptismal and Marriage) that include most or all of the churches within the original San Francisco Archdiocese. Therefore they have church records from the north bay such as Vallejo and Benecia, to San Jose in the South Bay. I was able to find the marriage and baptismal records for many of my relatives. The marriage records are quite useful because they tend to include the names of the parents, where the Civil Records usually do not have that information. The only thing is that it is a relatively small operation at the Archives and they are only open Monday's and Wednesday's from around 8 am to 4 pm. There is only 1 microfilm reader so you have to call ahead and make a reservation to come in and view the films to make sure no one else is scheduled to come in that day. There is also no way to make copies of the microfilm records besides taking photos of the screen (which works fairly well with a steady hand and not using the flash on the camera). Anyways, if anyone has any questions, comments, or additional information to add, feel free to comment. Thanks, David -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comazores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Jacinto
Hi, I know this is a little off the subject, but a friend of mine and the internet are in disagreement. I would like to plant a Jacinto plant in my yard. On the internet it is listed as a hyacinthus, but my friend says her family in San Miguel called the Agapanthus africanus a Jacinto. How about a little help from the group? Thanks, Tish -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Jacinto
Thank you Mary, maybe I should plant both! Tish On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 5:58 PM, Mary Bordi geneal...@hununu.org wrote: On May 31, 2010, at 8:52 PM, Tish M wrote: I know this is a little off the subject, but a friend of mine and the internet are in disagreement. I would like to plant a Jacinto plant in my yard. On the internet it is listed as a hyacinthus, but my friend says her family in San Miguel called the Agapanthus africanus a Jacinto. How about a little help from the group? The same common name can be given to many different plants depending on who is doing the naming and where they are! I work for a seed company and people often write us asking if we carry seed for a certain plant using the common name only. Sometimes we know what they are talking about and sometimes not! Apparently it is Hyacinthus orientalis??? If so, here is a picture. Not surprising someone would think it was the same as an agapanthus. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ae/Garden_Hyacinth_Hyacinthus_orientalis_%27Blue_Jacket%27_Flower_2000px.jpg Hope that helps. And thanks for mentioning the Jacinto. I had not heard of it! Mary Bordi -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comazores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Here is an interesting site explaining DNA
This is really interesting. Very well done. Thank you, sfig On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 4:27 PM, E Sharp bellema...@gmail.com wrote: Very interesting http://learn.genetics.utah.edu/content/extras/molgen/index.html E -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comazores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] help reading
Hi Margaret, Either Magalhos possibly Magahos Instead of Santos I go with Sousa Tish On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 9:01 AM, Margaret Vicente margaretvice...@gmail.com wrote: Hello to All, After Portugal's 7-0 win today I should not be disturbing anyone with questions but I do need another set of eyes that may be able to confirm the record's accuracy. It is a marriage record from Agua de Pau of my 7th gen direct ancestor ref. no. cca.sml.agpa.c1729-1750.028 DOM: 25-Sep-1735 Joseph Pacheco Raposo, son of Manoel de Morais *Magalhos?* Joseffa Pacheca with Maria de Medeiros Carneira, daughter of Antonio dos *Santos?* Mesquita and Maria de Medeiros Carneira. Thank you in advance. Margaret Vicente. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comazores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Cacciola and such
Since you live in Pittsburg, CA may I suggest you go to Sonoma to LaSalette. http://www.lasalette-restaurant.com/ Very good. Tish On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 5:36 PM, Jacki G ja...@cdmmarketing.com wrote: I need to get more into Portuguese food. This sounds great. When I was a kid, the only portuguese dishes my grandmother made were: beans, soupas, Vinha d’Alhos, linquisa, ovos á moda da montanha, kale soup, fava beans and sweet bread. She taught me how to make all of it and I have continued fixing those dishes for my family, but there is so much more wonderful food to be tried. Even though my kids are only 1/4 Portuguese, they are very proud of their heritage and love the food. So, I love hearing about all these different foods. Jacki Pittsburg, CA Surnames: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pereira, Pacheco, Machado, Azevedo Islands: Faial, Sao Miguel -- *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *eric edgar *Sent:* Sunday, June 27, 2010 4:28 PM *To:* azores@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Cacciola and such In Brazil ,in refering to feijoada as the national dish means *feijoada completa.* It's a big production, usually for a Saturday gathering of family and friends, or going out to a restaurant that specializes in it. It's based on black beans cooked with *carne seca*, a dried beef, ham hocks, ribs, sausages like *morcilla* and *chourico*. Of course everybody has their own idea of what a real feijoada should be. It is often served with *caiparinhas,* which is basically a mojito without mint, just lime,sugar, and cachaca , a liquor made from sugar cane juice, brighter and cleaner than rum, and usually 86 to 90 proof. First the bean liquor is served in small cups like soup, meats are sliced on platters, feijoada in a tureen acompanied by white rice, f*arofa*, which is roasted cassava flour ( think toasted bread crumbs), *couve mineira*, greens sauteed with garlic and red pepper, and a hot red pepper sauce. Eric E On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 9:22 PM, danandma...@comcast.net wrote: *Feijoada* is a stew http://wiki/Stew of beanshttp://wiki/Common_beanswith beef http://wiki/Beef and pork http://wiki/Pork, which is a typical Portuguese http://wiki/Portuguese_cuisine dish, also typical in Brazilhttp://wiki/Brazil, Angola http://wiki/Angola and other former Portuguese colonieshttp://wiki/Portuguese_colonies. In Brazil, *feijoada* is considered the national dishhttp://wiki/National_dish, which was brought to South America by the Portuguese, based in ancient Feijoada recipes from the Portuguese regions of Beirahttp://wiki/Beira,_Portugal, Estremadura http://wiki/Estremadura, and Trás-os-Monteshttp://wiki/Tr%C3%A1s-os-Montes .[1]https://mail.google.com/mail/html/compose/static_files/blank_quirks.html#129630b654fe7607_cite_note-0 The name comes from *feijão*, Portuguesehttp://wiki/Portuguese_languagefor beans, and is pronounced [fejʒuˈadɐ] http://wiki/Wikipedia:IPA_for_Portuguese. - Original Message - From: John Vasconcelos gfsjo...@gmail.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 10:08:51 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Cacciola and such Actually Cindy, fejoada is Afro Brazillian in origin. When the slave masters killed pigs, they saved the chops and the pork roasts (all the good cuts) for themselves and gave the inards, pigs feet, ears, etc to their slaves. The slaves embelished the stew with black beans, etc. If you go to an up scale Brazillian Restaurant, you will find the fejoada further embelished with linguica, etc. In some upscale restaurants in Brazil they will even serve pork chops on the side, a far cry from what the black slaves originally had. My late wife was Brazillian and filled me in on all this history of fejoada. John Vasconcelos On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 3:45 PM, Cindy D kcci...@aol.com wrote: I wasn't introduced to cacciola until I was in my 40's. We packed up the kids and made the trek to New Bedford one summer and we got there late and tired. We walked into my mom's house and the aroma of something wonderful was wafting around. Yum! Now I've never had cacciola in my whole midwestern life, yet this seemed oddly familiar. Mom said she got it from a deli in New Bedford and we had it on crusty portuguese white bread. So I have wondered ever since if there is some memory in my DNA that remembers a cultural dish like that. My kids even liked it. I can't bake bread worth a hoot so I'm not going to try the bread, but the cacciola is well worth the 2 day process. I can't keep my spoon out of the pot! It smells like perfume to me. Another dish my mother made once a year was feijoada (sp). Mixed meats simmered together with linquica, pork, beef, black beans, garlic, served over riceanother meal to die for. Although she said it was more
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] URL questions
Hi Here is the link.:https://news.arcasearch.com/us/um/?paper=___ Now you will really need a Portuguese dictionary! You can use google's translator. If you highlight a section and copy it, you can then go to google's translator and paste it. Then hit translate, and you will get big blocks translated. It has to be text. Good luck, Tish On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 3:57 PM, Shirley Sereque shirl.sere...@verizon.netwrote: Hi! http://www.priberam.pt was suggested to me as a Portuguese dictionary. This one seems to be only in Portuguese but I need one with English translations. How do I access Diario do Noticias on line at UMass-Dartmouth? Thanks in advance! - Shirl - -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comazores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with two names and question on mainland research
Hi I looked at both the Baptism and Marriage and get the same three people. Custodio, child of Francisco Ferreira and Luiza do Bom Surejo, both deceased. Hope this helps, Tish On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 3:03 PM, Jesse Pacheco pacheco.jess...@gmail.comwrote: Hi everyone. Can someone help me figure out the names of two people? Here is the first: She is the mother of Custodio Ferreira, and here is Custodio's baptismo (from the mainland) and casamento. Baptismo (Second page, third entry) http://o.mfcreative.com/f1/file02/objects/3/b/f/23bf16b0-4e42-4f16-92ea-b92ba6a3df41-0.jpg Casamento (Fifteenth line) http://o.mfcreative.com/f1/file00/objects/5/e/7/05e7f27f-cd8e-41ea-8267-83e5df5801aa-0.jpg The second person is the father of Manoel da Ponte. This person is also a Ferreira but the two Ferreiras in this email are unrelated (for now!): Casamento: http://o.mfcreative.com/f1/file13/objects/b/f/0/dbf00fb9-dd17-4591-a50f-017eccd4aa5e-0.jpg (For the first name I am seeing Luzia do Bom Surejo and the second I got Jimiam Ferreira? I haven't been able to find other instances of either name on google which is why I think I'm reading them wrong.) And then lastly, I was wondering if anyone knows of groups similar to this one but for mainland research? As you can see from the first name I've got a line returning there now. I'm now at a bit of a brick wall with it, and am looking for somewhere to post about the line. I've been using Etombo for records, and it's really great. They have a HUGE amount of documents online. Unfortunately it's very slow. Thank you! -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comazores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
[AZORES-Genealogy] CCA down?
Hi, I tried to get on the CCA site today and found it was down. Anyone have any information on what's up? -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Bermudian Portuguese, furtadi, parents of august furtadi angelina furtadi born massasz, bbr#323,851 and 1st Pimental birth 1905
Hi, I sent my cousin an email to show her all of her work was not in vain, and that indeed it is being used by people to trace their ancestors. This is the message I received, and I thought I would share with you. She wrote the book, Portuguese Bermudians. She has just finished more records that should be available through the Bermuda registry as she just got back from there. So for you in Bermuda, you might want to check out her latest stuff. Tish Hi Tish, My goodness, this was a surprisejust to know that people are interested is so wonderful I immediately looked up the information that I had here, and yes, I found four of the names: FURTADI, FEMALE - NOVEMBER 18,1906, SANDY'S PARISH, PARENTS AUGUST FURTADI ANGELINA FURTADI BORN MASSASZ, BBR#323,851 FURTOS, MARY D'ESTRALEA, NOVEMBER 15, 1907, ST. EDWARD'S CHURCH, PEMBROKE PARISH, PARENTS AUGUSTUS FURTOS ANGELINA MESRCIES, #SERCC FATADO, MALE, DECEMBER 19, 1907, SOUTHAMPTON, PARENTS AUGUST FATADO ANGELINA FATADO BORN MADEIROS, BBR#24,658 FATADO, MARY DESTAR, JULY 11, 1909, SOUTHAMPTON, PARENTS AUGUST FATADO ANGELINA FATADO BORN MADEIRA, BBR#25,737 Please note that the Church entry does not match the Registry entry...Also, prior to 1866, Christian names were not required to be registered As you can see, the language was quite a hardship...the spelling kept changingI did not find them with the Pimental spelling...the first Pimental birth was in 1905...Manuel Pimento and Josephine Pimento born Marshall... Hope you both are wellthanks for sending me this nice e-mail.Love, Pat -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Christmas
Hi Sam, I was waiting for you to chime in taking leave of cold, wet California, basking in the warm Mexican sun. Best wishes to all, and may 2011 be a good year for all of our genealogical endeavors. Tish... in cold wet Fairfield, CA. On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 3:14 PM, Sam Koester sam...@surewest.net wrote: Ok, not to make all of you who are in the cold and wet areas hate me but; Feliz Navidad y Feliz Año Nuevo from Sam who got out of CA just in time and is now in beautiful, warm Mazatlan, Mexico.. J *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *nancy jean baptiste *Sent:* Tuesday, December 21, 2010 3:13 PM *To:* azores group *Subject:* RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Christmas Merriest of Christmas to all of you and yours with a 2011 filled with health and blessings. Nancy Jean From the chilly Ozark Mountains of northwest Arkansas. -- From: cakemom...@aol.com Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2010 15:44:13 -0500 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Christmas To: azores@googlegroups.com Wishing all of you and your families a very Merry Christmas and the most prosperous of New Years. Mary Ann From rainy Northern California In a message dated 12/21/2010 12:40:47 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, jojo8...@comcast.net writes: Wishing all the Merriest of Christmas' and a very Happy and Healthy New Year from snowy and very cold Fall River, MA. Many thanks to all of you for your help this year. Joanne Perry Souza - Original Message - From: Michelle mori...@cts.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 9:14:08 PM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Christmas Merry Christmas to all from rainy San Diego, California. Michelle Morin-Boles -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comazores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comazores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comazores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comazores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comazores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Eugene Marie Santos
I have a photo of Marie and Eugene Santos. Marie is identified as a cousin. I believe it is a wedding photo. 1930 Census they were living in Rodeo, CA (Contra Costa County) They had a son Eugene born 1928 or 1929 California death records: Marie died in 1993 in Contra Costa County Marie's parents were Manuel and Jessie Figueiredo from Centerville 1910 Census Manuel and Jessie with Tony (4 yrs. old), Marie (2 yrs. old) Do any of these names ring a bell? Manuel and Jessie were from the Azores, Santa Maria. Tish -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
