Re: Orangutan granted human rights

2014-12-26 Thread trent shipley
In Indonesia rapidly shrinking habitat might force the Orangutang into cultivated areas, where she would be killed as a crop raider. On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 12:13 PM, Jon Louis Mann net_democr...@yahoo.com wrote: Would this orangutan be better off released in the Indonesian rain forest? Jon

Domain Hierarchy

2014-03-03 Thread trent shipley
I once read a quote that went something like, No action against climate change has ever been taken that resulted in material economic injury to those who took the action. This lead me to think that despite the knowledge about climate change at a physical level, humans make decisions based on the

Re: Domain Hierarchy

2014-03-03 Thread trent shipley
I have a degree in Mathematics. I consider it more of an art than a science. Math is a linguistic game that fortuitously has practical applications. On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 8:44 PM, David Hobby hob...@newpaltz.edu wrote: On 3/3/2014 10:37 PM, trent shipley wrote: ... The second thing it made

Re: New Encyclopedia

2011-03-06 Thread trent shipley
On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Keith Henson hkeithhen...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 12:00 PM,   trent shipley trent.ship...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 1:46 PM, Keith Henson hkeithhen...@gmail.com wrote: Does Imaginaria stretch far enough to encompass Tom Clancy

Re: New Encyclopedia

2011-03-04 Thread trent shipley
On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 1:46 PM, Keith Henson hkeithhen...@gmail.com wrote: Hmm.  I suppose I could put in a short bit about how The Clinic Seed came about. Another would be a long article about the influence of the early Extropian mailing list on such writers as Charles Stross. Does

Re: New Encyclopedia

2011-03-03 Thread trent shipley
Anne evens...@hevanet.com Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 19:28:21 -0700 From: trent shipley trent.ship...@gmail.com To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Subject: New Encyclopedia Message-ID: AANLkTikcn3pjcJFJP+k=gdnocb0w4gnprn+vr71la...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text

New Encyclopedia

2011-03-02 Thread trent shipley
Some of you may recall that a few months ago there was a discussion about a David Brin trivia site. I have rented space on a server and Nick has helped with technical issues. You are welcome to work on a trivia project for David Brin's fiction at http://www.encyclopediaimaginaria.org. I hope to

Re: RE: Facebook is evil, why it must be eradicated [was: Wikileaks?]

2010-12-07 Thread trent shipley
A business decision that injures public health. On Dec 7, 2010 3:15 PM, Dan Minette danmine...@att.net wrote: Only a sociopath and pervert can think that breastfeeding is pornography. It's disrespectful to... Actually, it doesn't, Alberto. Facebook is free, last time I looked. I can choose to

Re: Wikileaks

2010-12-05 Thread trent shipley
The Manhattan Project was spied on by the Soviets. On Dec 1, 2010 4:18 AM, Alberto Monteiro albm...@centroin.com.br wrote: Doug Pensinger wrote: I'm generally for transparency and haven't heard of anything yet that ... I think the worst source of embarassment is the use by .govs of

Re: Wikileaks

2010-12-05 Thread trent shipley
How many secrets does Australia have that are worth leaking. Does a significant fraction of the World's population believe it is The Great Satan? On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 1:12 PM, Wayne Eddy darkenf...@gmail.com wrote: It is interesting to hear that there is overwhelming sentiment against

Re: Down with the government

2010-10-15 Thread Trent Shipley
On 10/15/2010 05:15 PM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: At 03:23 PM Friday 10/15/2010, Dan Minette wrote: [snip] California has put itself in a box and I'd expect housing prices to drop another factor of ? before it can start to rebound. Now, there's a topic we can debate. :-) Dan M.

Unsolvable and beyond compromise.

2010-02-22 Thread Trent Shipley
http://alturl.com/s5id Republicans would have to be suicidal idiots to play ball with Obama and the Democrats on health care reform. They all involve increased interference by the Federal Government in the health care market, which is a cultural no-no in America. (Leaving people uninsured is

Re: Br?n on global warming

2010-02-18 Thread Trent Shipley
Wayne Eddy wrote: Found what I thought was a terrific paper on carbon sequestration. It suggests that it should be possible to use nanotechnology to convert atmospheric carbon dioxide into diamond bricks by the 2030's. http://www.imm.org/Reports/rep043.pdf

Re: Br?n on global warming

2010-02-18 Thread Trent Shipley
Keith Henson wrote: If we don't solve the energy problem as many as 6 out of 7 people will *die* in famines and resource wars. Keith ___ http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com Where will they live? (I am a member of

Re: Br?n on global warming

2010-02-18 Thread Trent Shipley
Charlie Bell wrote: On 18/02/2010, at 11:29 AM, Keith Henson wrote: On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Charlie Bell char...@culturelist.org wrote: On 13/02/2010, at 7:05 AM, Keith Henson wrote: Examples such as water tanks, solar hot water, decent insulation are

Re: Br?n on global warming

2010-02-11 Thread Trent Shipley
Michael Harney wrote: Trent wrote: I believe that climate change is true, but that America's response must preserve the American way of life or to hell with the planet. You're kidding right? If we go down we're taking the world with us? A little Bond-villain-esqe don't you think? Can't

Re: Br?n on global warming

2010-02-11 Thread Trent Shipley
a marginal improvement over oil. For America, however, Coal is the ultimate in energy security. It's right here. We can even export the stuff and gain a strategic advantage over other countries by becoming part of their energy supply chain. Trent Shipley wrote: I believe that climate change

Re: Br?n on global warming

2010-02-11 Thread Trent Shipley
As you said. http://www.euronuclear.org/info/encyclopedia/u/uranium-reserves.htm Uranium mining (reserves?) in tonnes Australia 725,000 t Brazil 157,400 t Canada 329,200 t * Kazakhstan 378,100 t South Africa 284,400 t Namibia 176,400 t * Niger 243,100 t * Russia 172,400 t Ukraine

Re: Br?n on global warming

2010-02-10 Thread Trent Shipley
I believe that climate change is true, but that America's response must preserve the American way of life or to hell with the planet. So the solution has to be a magic technology fix. We cannot raise the cost of energy to solve climate change, especially not before the costs of climate change

ping

2010-02-09 Thread Trent Shipley
Ping! ___ http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com

Re: Is this thing on?

2010-01-21 Thread Trent Shipley
No. Jeroen van Baardwijk wrote: taps on microphone Is this thing on? /tapping Is this silence (no messages for several days) caused by technical issues, or is Brin-L no longer the high-volume list is once was? Jeroen van Baardwijk

Re: The worst

2010-01-04 Thread Trent Shipley
Nick Arnett wrote: My friends I hate to write this. Been putting it off for a while. My younger sister, Lesley, the youngest of the four of us, mother of my five-year-old niece, Sarah, could not fight off the sepsis that attacked her body. Lesley died this morning. I have never hurt

Foswiki content guidelines.

2010-01-04 Thread Trent Shipley
Alberto Monteiro wrote: David Brin asked: Let me know how I can help! You must tell us how far can we go - and how far we can't go :-) Here are the guidelines so far -- and they aren't consensus guidelines, they are still just guidelines Trent made up. You have to write from

Re: Brin: UniversesImagined wiki

2010-01-03 Thread Trent Shipley
Dr Brin please see: http://nickarnett.net/foswiki/bin/view Hopefully you won't find anything more offensive than forcing writing about your work to share a site with fantasy and other forms of imaginaria. Other list members should note that the the site is open for business. New pages should

Re: May not be around

2010-01-02 Thread Trent Shipley
Jim Sharkey wrote: Nick Arnett wrote: Yes, Im in Santa Clara... waiting to see if I should head to NC. Apparently the recovery from something like this is very long, so Im not rushing there unless the medical people say that its time for family to gather. They havent quite said that, but

Re: Purpose of the Wiki

2010-01-02 Thread Trent Shipley
Wayne Eddy wrote: I'm interested to hear what everyone thinks the purpose of the SF Foswiki should be? Is it ... a) just a place to store SF related information not sufficiently important to be incorporated into WIkipedia. b) a place for things discussed on the Brin List to be

The Taliban Fight Like Che.

2010-01-02 Thread Trent Shipley
http://www1.voanews.com/english/news/Death-Toll-Now-at-95-in-Pakistan-Volleyball-Bombing--80498082.html This is just dumb. If you want to win a war, intimidating the people whose support you need is pretty stupid. The West might not be able to win in Central Asia ... unless the Taliban keep

UniversesImagined Biz Org

2010-01-02 Thread Trent Shipley
Nick Arnett wrote: On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 1:33 PM, Trent Shipley tship...@deru.com mailto:tship...@deru.com wrote: The host or its agents cannot serve on any board of directors since that would be a conflict of interest. Eh? Interlocking boards of directors with conflicts

Re: Foswiki up and running

2009-12-31 Thread Trent Shipley
And... a blast from the past, pasted below. I'll let whoever emerge as the folks who lead the wiki project decide how to respond. As usual, I'm inclined to let the community choose and will only intervene directly as a last resort. Nick It's been a sufficiently long banishment.

Re: SciFi and Fantasy(?) Wiki

2009-12-31 Thread Trent Shipley
If we are to grow we need an organizational plan for growth. We need a growth oriented revenue plan. ** This can wait awhile. ** Nonprofit?? underwriting or no underwriting? ** For profit? (I would be reluctant to contribute for free.) If it grows, I

Re: Foswiki up and running

2009-12-31 Thread Trent Shipley
Nick Arnett wrote: Got Foswiki installed here: http://nickarnett.net/sfwiki Hi Nick, check out: http://n2.nabble.com/Foswiki-f2555947.html It's the archive for Foswiki discuss after March 2009. I have a thread near the top. The gist is that if we are lucky we could run into a problem

UniversesImagined webs

2009-12-31 Thread Trent Shipley
I can think of at least two webs that we will need. Most important we will want the main web with all the writing about imaginaria. Then we will need the meta-content where we have policies, discussions about the site, basically information about the site, so a MetaUniversesImagined web. And

Re: Another Conserpadia accidental joke: Fidel Castro is dead

2009-12-30 Thread Trent Shipley
Sorry. I must read more carefully. I missed the retired, presumed dead part. tship...@deru.com wrote: No, this one may be right. Fidel got too sick to rule and was followed by his brother Raul(?). Sent from my BlackBerry Smartphone provided by Alltel -Original Message- From:

Re: Shopping for a wiki

2009-12-30 Thread Trent Shipley
Andrew Crystall wrote: On 29 Dec 2009 at 22:22, Trent Shipley wrote: See above answers. There's an effective page limit per-web (20,000), but you are not limited in the number of webs and users you can create. The biggest? Probably Google or Nokia's installs. (Foswiki is the direct

Re: The wikipedia trolls may win again (III) :-/

2009-12-29 Thread Trent Shipley
Alberto Monteiro wrote: David Hobby wrote: So the user is Abductive, and he seems to spend a lot of time proposing articles for deletion. It's probably an attack account: a sock puppet of a known user, created to give anonimity to a coward behavior (if it used the _real_

Re: SciFi and Fantasy(?) Wiki

2009-12-29 Thread Trent Shipley
, Wayne Eddy On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 11:16 AM, Nick Arnett nick.arn...@gmail.com mailto:nick.arn...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 3:54 PM, Trent Shipley tship...@deru.com mailto:tship...@deru.com wrote: Nick Arnett wrote: On Mon

Re: SciFi and Fantasy(?) Wiki

2009-12-29 Thread Trent Shipley
Alberto Monteiro wrote: Nick Arnett wrote: Seriously, though, the wiki gives everybody lotsa power... I'm not familiar enough with Media Wiki to see (a) what administrators might do via the web interface and (b) exactly how to create 'em. It's a php associative array, the docs tell me.

Re: SciFi and Fantasy(?) Wiki

2009-12-29 Thread Trent Shipley
Andrew Crystall wrote: On 28 Dec 2009 at 17:16, Nick Arnett wrote: I'm happy to keep the discussion here for now, to get it going. Any other experience wiki-ers here? Hi. I absolutely detest MediaWiki, though, so I won't be much use for this. (Fos/T Wiki, now...) AndrewC

Re: SciFi and Fantasy(?) Wiki

2009-12-29 Thread Trent Shipley
Nick Arnett wrote: On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Trent Shipley tship...@deru.com mailto:tship...@deru.com wrote: Why? We can change no problem. There's no content on it yet. Nick has said that whatever we choose has to use MySQL on the back end. That is correct

Shopping for a wiki

2009-12-29 Thread Trent Shipley
I am with a little group of science fiction fans. We are looking at starting a science fiction wiki with synopses, reviews, literary criticism, and above all trivia. We have a big vision for the site since Wikipedia won't let us put our trivia there and it annoys us. So basically the vision is

Re: SciFi and Fantasy(?) Wiki

2009-12-29 Thread Trent Shipley
Nick Arnett wrote: On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 6:20 PM, Andrew Crystall dawnfal...@upliftwar.com mailto:dawnfal...@upliftwar.com wrote: On 29 Dec 2009 at 16:11, Trent Shipley wrote: Any other experience wiki-ers here? Hi. I absolutely detest MediaWiki, though

Re: The wikipedia trolls may win again :-/

2009-12-28 Thread Trent Shipley
. That means, for example, if I created an article on Trent Shipley, it would be removed since I don't merit mention in an encyclopedia. David Brin is an important science fiction author so he merits mention in Wikipedia. The Jijo trilogy merits mention. Each book in the trilogy merits an article

SciFi and Fantasy(?) Wiki

2009-12-28 Thread Trent Shipley
Nick Arnett wrote: On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 11:58 AM, tship...@deru.com mailto:tship...@deru.com wrote: I did not send the original to the list. Feel free to forward this to the list. I'm partial to MediaWiki. I have installed MediaWiki here:

Re: SciFi and Fantasy(?) Wiki

2009-12-28 Thread Trent Shipley
Nick Arnett wrote: On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 3:54 PM, Trent Shipley tship...@deru.com mailto:tship...@deru.com wrote: Nick Arnett wrote: On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 11:58 AM, tship...@deru.com mailto:tship...@deru.com mailto:tship...@deru.com mailto:tship

[Fwd: Re: The wikipedia trolls may win again :-/]

2009-12-27 Thread Trent Shipley
Original Message From: - Sun Dec 27 19:10:30 2009 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 0080 X-Mozilla-Keys: Message-ID: 4b38138e.1030...@deru.com Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 19:10:22 -0700 From: Trent Shipley tship...@deru.com User-Agent

Google vs Bing

2009-11-25 Thread Trent Shipley
Google? Bing? I don't care. Not long ago if I was given an MSN or Yahoo search tool I went out of my way to get to a Google search. Not any more. The competition has come a long way. That's BAD news for Google. I like Google as a corporate citizen, but they are still a one trick pony. If

Re: Google vs Bing

2009-11-25 Thread Trent Shipley
Charlie Bell wrote: On 25/11/2009, at 9:57 PM, Trent Shipley wrote: It would take time to wean myself off Microsoft even if someone made an desktop operating system that was twice as good. There is. I did. Except for gaming. So I use a MacBook for day-to-day shite, email

Re: Brin-:L the 2nd decade

2009-08-17 Thread Trent Shipley
We know each other and know each other's positions. What about those of us who try not to have positions? ___ http://mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com

Re: The Role of Government in a Libertarian Free Market

2009-08-17 Thread Trent Shipley
No, when I say we in this context, I mean that we have in the past booted people from the list as a group in most cases. There being no one person in particular one can suck up to in order to avoid consequences, it behooves everyone to be generally inoffensive. A few people have been

Re: The Role of Government in a Libertarian Free Market

2009-08-17 Thread Trent Shipley
John Williams wrote: On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 8:48 PM, xponentrobxponent...@comcast.net wrote: But no, I do not give you the benefit of the doubt. I think I have you pegged as exactly the kind of intentionally obtuse person you appear to be. My apologies for not being as perceptive as you

Re: The Role of Government in a Libertarian Free Market

2009-08-16 Thread Trent Shipley
Obama, yesterday, was right on target when he said there was no single silver bullet for this problem. But, we do know things can be better, because we are paying twice as much as the average developed country per person with worse than average results. I have heard, but have been too lazy

Re: A Real Free Market in Health Care

2009-08-16 Thread Trent Shipley
Lance A. Brown wrote: John Williams said the following on 8/16/2009 5:08 PM: On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 1:47 PM, David Hobbyhob...@newpaltz.edu wrote: It does strike me as a kludge, though. To continue your example of car insurance, I don't believe that anybody markets insurance against having

Re: The Role of Government in a Libertarian Free Market

2009-08-16 Thread Trent Shipley
Trent Shipley wrote: Obama, yesterday, was right on target when he said there was no single silver bullet for this problem. But, we do know things can be better, because we are paying twice as much as the average developed country per person with worse than average results. I have heard

Re: A Real Free Market in Health Care

2009-08-16 Thread Trent Shipley
John Williams wrote: On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 3:59 PM, Trent Shipleytship...@deru.com wrote: John Williams wrote: There are billions of people around the world with worse healthcare than virtually everyone in the United States. If the goal is to redistribute wealth to improve healthcare

Uplift Fan Fiction

2009-08-13 Thread Trent Shipley
A while back there was a thread on the list about people wanting David Brin to write more Uplift fiction. Back when I was writing the Alliance for Progress Encyclopedia I wrote some Fan-Fic history and fiction--the longer works I never finished. A few people wrote and said they liked what I had

Re: A Real Free Market in Health Care

2009-08-12 Thread Trent Shipley
dsummersmi...@comcast.net wrote: People on this list have argued for the advantages of a free market system for health care and health care insurance. I have thought about it, and decided to apply what we know from other markets that have considerable less government intervention. For

Re: A Real Free Market in Health Care

2009-08-12 Thread Trent Shipley
John Williams wrote: There are billions of people around the world with worse healthcare than virtually everyone in the United States. If the goal is to redistribute wealth to improve healthcare because of the belief that everyone should have a chance to live and be healthy, then why not

Re: The Role of Government in a Libertarian Free Market

2009-08-12 Thread Trent Shipley
David Hobby wrote: John Williams wrote: #1 patent-related #2 patent-related #4 IP-related #5 patent-related Sounds like you have a problem with the government-run patent system. Yes. He's saying it doesn't actually work the way you think it would, since there's latitude for people

Re: Politicians sell out again

2009-08-11 Thread Trent Shipley
Chris Frandsen wrote: On Aug 10, 2009, at 8:40 PM, John Williams wrote: The politician pretends to be acting altruistically while still behaving in a self-serving manner. But the politicians take your money by force and THEN give it to the businesses. John: These two sentences are

Archives: attention list management

2009-08-11 Thread Trent Shipley
Where can I find the list archives? Note also that typing Brin-L in Google returns: http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l Which produces a page No such list brin-l, which is not helpful if we want to recruit new members. ___

Re: Politicians sell out again

2009-08-11 Thread Trent Shipley
Max Battcher wrote: On 8/11/2009 18:53, Trent Shipley wrote: More fundamental is his objection to the U.S. Government. In effect, he is saying that the U.S. system of government is inherently illegitimate, largely because it is run by politicians. By John William's standards ALL

Re: Libertarian Morality--Up with good King John, down with Robin Hood.

2009-08-10 Thread Trent Shipley
). Morality an antidote, not a synonym, for self-centered pragmatism. The antecedent for you in this thread isn't clear. I suspect it is not Trent Shipley, but I will provide my input anyway. Well, how do you define what a moral principal is? I'd argue it is an axiom of a system of ethics. Now, from

Re: Br!n: Libertarian Morality--Up with good King John, down withRobin Hood.

2009-08-10 Thread Trent Shipley
Dan M wrote: -Original Message- From: brin-l-boun...@mccmedia.com [mailto:brin-l-boun...@mccmedia.com] On Behalf Of Trent Shipley Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 3:23 PM To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion Subject: Re: Br!n: Libertarian Morality--Up with good King John, down

Re: Br!n: Libertarian Morality--Up with good King John, down with Robin Hood.

2009-08-07 Thread Trent Shipley
PM, Trent Shipley tship...@deru.com mailto:tship...@deru.com wrote: It started me thinking about the bases of libertarianism and American conservatism. Previously when I had thought of libertarianism, I had not thought of it as particularly based in a moral principle. Good

Brin: Libertarian Morality--Up with good King John, down with Robin Hood.

2009-08-06 Thread Trent Shipley
will be succeeded by their brain children, those children will soon run into the organizational behavior and governance problem. Managing your relationships in ever increasing troop sizes will not scale in polynomial time. Begin forwarded message: From: Trent Shipley tship...@deru.com Date

Re: Brin: Libertarian Morality--Up with good King John, down with Robin Hood.

2009-08-06 Thread Trent Shipley
David Hobby wrote: Trent Shipley wrote: I wrote a suggestion to my Arizona State legislators about de-funding the state universities in favor of tuition vouchers. ... Dear Senator Linda Gray, Representative Doug Quelland, and Representative Jim Weiers, ... “Be it resolved

Re: [Brin]: Libertarian Morality--Up with good King John, down with Robin Hood.

2009-08-06 Thread Trent Shipley
David Hobby wrote: Trent Shipley wrote: Hi. It's interesting. I wonder about the last bit, though. How does one tell whether or not a profession is essential? (I can certainly name some that I feel are NOT essential, but let's get beyond our personal biases.) One answer may

Re: Take that, Iowa!!

2008-01-11 Thread Trent Shipley
On Friday 2008-01-11 12:04, Jim Sharkey wrote: Lance A. Brown wrote: Being able to grow switchgrass on marginal land not suitable for other, more traditional, crops is one of its benefits. To me that certainly seems like one of its biggest benefits. It's grass; it doesn't require nearly the

Re: Take that, Iowa!!

2008-01-11 Thread Trent Shipley
On Friday 2008-01-11 12:04, Jim Sharkey wrote: Lance A. Brown wrote: Being able to grow switchgrass on marginal land not suitable for other, more traditional, crops is one of its benefits. To me that certainly seems like one of its biggest benefits. It's grass; it doesn't require nearly the

Re: Take that, Iowa!!

2008-01-10 Thread Trent Shipley
On Thursday 2008-01-10 17:13, Lance A. Brown wrote: Alberto Vieira Ferreira Monteiro wrote: Jim Sharkey wrote: I'm sure some of you knew this, what with your big brains and all, but I found it interesting: http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=grass-makes-better-ethanol-than-corn

Sci-fi physics

2008-01-08 Thread Trent Shipley
Is this plausible? http://www.belfryenterprises.com/redgalaxy/index.php/Singularity_power ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

World building wiki

2008-01-02 Thread Trent Shipley
Please visit and spread the word about http://www.belfryenterprises.com/redgalaxy ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: World Building Wiki

2007-12-29 Thread Trent Shipley
On Saturday 2007-12-29 16:46, jon louis mann wrote: ... why does it take millions of years to fill the galaxy with sentient life... jlm The galaxy is one hundred thousand light years across. At 1% light speed, i.e., 3000 km/sec or 1860 miles per second, that is ten million years.

Re: Brin:World Building Wiki

2007-12-28 Thread Trent Shipley
Yes. They threw me off the Orion's Arm discussion list for being a worm hole skeptic. On Thursday 2007-12-27 20:57, Max Battcher wrote: Did you look at Orion's Arm? It has a couple of the things you mention: http://www.orionsarm.com/ ___

Brin:World Building Wiki

2007-12-27 Thread Trent Shipley
I am going to launch a world building wiki. The working name for the project is Red. Since world building shares a lot with encyclopedias I'm planning to use MediaWiki. I haven't decided on GFDL or Creative Commons license yet. The wiki will not be an Uplift site. These are the features

Re: Car free London?

2007-10-02 Thread Trent Shipley
On Tuesday 2007-10-02 17:11, William T Goodall wrote: On 2 Oct 2007, at 22:38, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: At 09:25 AM Tuesday 10/2/2007, Charlie Bell wrote: On 30/09/2007, at 8:50 PM, Gary Nunn wrote: Holy Cow!! I make a post and step away for a few weeks and find this topic ran rampant

Alliance for Progress Encyclopedia Wiki?

2007-05-13 Thread Trent Shipley
Translating the uplift encyclopedia into a wiki format is feasible. Would anyone be interested in having it in that form? There don't seem to have been any contributions for ages. Does anyone have ideas about how we would protect David Brin's intellectual property if the Encyclopedia used a

Re: Depleted Uranium, Floridated Water, and Bisphenol Food Wrapping

2006-04-24 Thread Trent Shipley
On Saturday 2006-04-22 11:55, Andrew Crystall wrote: On 19 Apr 2006 at 17:42, The Fool wrote: http://news.bostonherald.com/localRegional/view.bg?articleid=133828 Stearns' research, published in the journals Mutagenesis and Molecular Carcinogenesis, confirms what many have suspected for

Re: A question about Contacting Aliens

2006-03-16 Thread Trent Shipley
David Brin has many virtues, but he is hardly obsessive about editing for continuity. Contacting Aliens has a huge number of discrepancies. The discrepancies are internal, it contradicts itself, it contradicts things written by Brin, it contradicted all sorts of stuff from Gurps Uplift, 1st

Re: The Coming Tug of War Over the Internet

2006-01-22 Thread Trent Shipley
I tend to favor technicalism -- a political stance that favoring the free play of technology. I hate the digital millennium copyright act because it is capitalist Ludditeism. The DMCA tries to protect an version (a relatively recent version) of intellectual property against free technological

Re: Abstinence Only Sex Ed: 65 out of 490 Girls Pregnant in Ohio School

2005-08-26 Thread Trent Shipley
On Friday 2005-08-26 11:28, William T Goodall wrote: Or we could outsource it to countries that can manage it cheaper like China or India and have them shipped over at 22 or whatever when they have their degrees and are ready to start working. Brought up using European standards of language

Re: Uplift locations and dates. Hey, Alberto?

2005-07-19 Thread Trent Shipley
On Monday 2005-07-18 18:17, Alberto Monteiro wrote: Vilyehm wrote: there is a strong possibility that UW Chapter 81 takes place in 2489-November. That would make things easier. The first of the Thennanin fleet arriving December 2489 Hmmm... No, because the Tymbrimi-Thennanin treaty

Re: SPOUTED: Knee-jerk Atheist Spams List With Stories of Christians Gone Bad

2005-06-19 Thread Trent Shipley
And let us now remember the evil done by doctrinaire atheists such as Stalin and Mao. Verily it is not faith in diety or religion that causeth evil, but belief in all master narratives. If thou wouldst do no evil, have not faith, not even faith in no-faith. == If religion is

Re: What Is Your Worldview?

2005-06-03 Thread Trent Shipley
On Thursday 2005-06-02 19:10, Dave Land wrote: On Jun 2, 2005, at 6:41 PM, Robert G. Seeberger wrote: A fun test! http://quizfarm.com/test.php?q_id=23320 You scored as Modernist. You scored as Materialist. Materialism stresses the essence of fundamental particles. Everything

Re: Islamic Neocons

2005-05-31 Thread Trent Shipley
Depends on what you mean by Neocon. Wahhabism is a very literalist approach to Islam and has had a radical influence on global Islam in the late 20th and early 21st centuries AD. There are some weak parallels with literalist North American approaches to Evangelical Protestant Christianity.

Re: anti modernism blog continues.

2005-05-03 Thread Trent Shipley
On Monday 2005-05-02 17:39, d.brin wrote: Any of you who haven't joined our regular Thursday pm gathering online, using my Holocene Chat interface, are welcome to let me know. Several brinellers participate. Each Thursday 4pm Pacific. --- This from my blog Still too swamped to

Attn Brin: Re: anti modernism blog continues.

2005-05-03 Thread Trent Shipley
On Monday 2005-05-02 17:39, d.brin wrote: Any of you who haven't joined our regular Thursday pm gathering online, using my Holocene Chat interface, are welcome to let me know. Several brinellers participate. Each Thursday 4pm Pacific. --- This from my blog Still too swamped to

Re: Imax 'shuns films on evolution'

2005-03-21 Thread Trent Shipley
On Monday 2005-03-21 17:11, William T Goodall wrote: On 21 Mar 2005, at 8:51 pm, Nick Arnett wrote: On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 03:26:18 +, William T Goodall wrote The people in the original story who had religious objections to evolution. You are objecting to them being referred to as

Re: the purge

2005-03-18 Thread Trent Shipley
On Thursday 2005-03-17 20:25, d.brin wrote: Today. In person. One of the most conservative men I know and former special forces. One of dozens who have told me - when I asked about the purge - David, it is worse than you can imagine. This is not just the fault of the Straussian fanatics, or

Re: Brin: Re: more neocons

2005-03-14 Thread Trent Shipley
On Monday 2005-03-14 23:01, Doug Pensinger wrote: On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 21:37:34 -0800 (PST), David Brin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's stunning is the ability of hypocrites to make excuses for (or ignore) the most relentless and deliberate politicization and political purge of our

You will be sorry you asked: was Re: Counting

2005-03-07 Thread Trent Shipley
On Friday 2005-03-04 06:27, David Hobby wrote: Trent Shipley wrote: What the I can't find any context for this. But see comments, below. ---David 1) You might have seen this on brin-l aztechlist or [EMAIL PROTECTED] I did not recognize this as a simple

Counting

2005-03-04 Thread Trent Shipley
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[aztechlist] Counting

2005-03-04 Thread Trent Shipley
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Sunni Arab Anti-Americanism and Paramilitarism (was: scorching hell...)

2005-02-20 Thread Trent Shipley
On Sunday 2005-02-20 20:36, d.brin wrote: 1/ Why do CIA Director, Porter Goss, and the head of the Defense Intelligence Agency, Lowell Jacoby, HATE AMERICA? Islamic extremists are exploiting the Iraqi conflict to recruit new anti-U.S. jihadists, CIA Director Porter J. Goss told the Senate

War Prison Abuses (was: scorching hell...)

2005-02-20 Thread Trent Shipley
On Sunday 2005-02-20 20:36, d.brin wrote: 2/ Why would our Iraq war fuel Islamic resentment? Don't they see the great things we are doing? snip content=examples of abuses/ I think we did not hear these kinds of stories from Vietnam because we could use the South Vietnamese as cutouts to

Shii Theocracy (was: scorching hell...)

2005-02-20 Thread Trent Shipley
On Sunday 2005-02-20 20:36, d.brin wrote: 3/ Meanwhile, the big winner in Iraq is the latest target of the Bush administration's macho rhetoric, Iran: When the Bush administration decided to invade Iraq two years ago, it envisioned a quick handover to handpicked allies in a secular

Iranian policy (was: scorching hell...)

2005-02-20 Thread Trent Shipley
On Sunday 2005-02-20 20:36, d.brin wrote: 4/ So, how are our relations with Iran now that it is the dominant regional power, with a sympathetic Shiite government in a weak and chaotic neighboring Iraq, its former enemy? Iran, facing mounting U.S. pressure over its nuclear program, promised

Iraqi Vote (was Re: Live video of ...)

2005-02-09 Thread Trent Shipley
On Wednesday 2005-02-09 12:43, Gary Denton wrote: With a slow connection I don't do video feeds but am glad they recognize the sacrifices our troops are making. My nephew the Army Ranger is back in Iraq. He was protecting the vote. He is at Mosul, where they had 10% voter turnout. I was

Re: SpamAdaption

2005-02-06 Thread Trent Shipley
On Sunday 2005-02-06 22:17, Nick Arnett wrote: Robert G. Seeberger wrote: And that comes right after AOL claimed that spam was going down and that everybody was saying that spammers had given up It seems that spammers have adapted. How can they use the ISP's infrastructure and why can't

Re: SpamAdaption

2005-02-06 Thread Trent Shipley
On Sunday 2005-02-06 23:09, David Land wrote: Trent Shipley wrote: I really do not get that angry with spammers. They are just rational entrepreneurs. I take from this it that you are some kind of extreme libertarian that rejects both property and privacy. It would not be incorrect

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