Re: Star Trek (Was: RE: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy MovieSoundtrack?)

2003-02-24 Thread G. D. Akin
Read the subject line. - Original Message - From: Jon Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Killer Bs Discussion' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 4:42 AM Subject: RE: Star Trek (Was: RE: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

SCOUTED: Satellite Photos of Iraqi Atrocities

2003-02-24 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
How can anyone look at these recently declassified satellite photos and doubt that we are doing the right thing? http://www.iol.ie/~forsacosanta/world_needed_proof.htm -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

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2003-02-24 Thread Robert Seeberger
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RE: test

2003-02-24 Thread Gary L. Nunn
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Re: W deficits

2003-02-24 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 10:41 PM 2/23/2003 -0600 The Fool wrote: Even the Supreme Court has made vividly clear that it stands ready to help if necessary. I must have missed the clause in the Consitutiont that made budget deficits unconstitutional...so, what on Earth is Kinsley babbling about here? Meanwhile,

Re: Satellite Photos of Iraqi Atrocities

2003-02-24 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 03:56 AM 2/24/2003 -0600 Ronn!Blankenship wrote: How can anyone look at these recently declassified satellite photos and doubt that we are doing the right thing? http://www.iol.ie/~forsacosanta/world_needed_proof.htm Its interesting to consider the standards that civilizations hold.Can

Re: Head Injuries

2003-02-24 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Bob Zimmerman wrote: I am horrible with names. I once avoided the chairman of my department during a party because I could not remember the name of his wife. I'm ok with faces. Me too. And I bluff. And I am sometimes caught at it :-) Alberto Monteiro

Re: Satellite Photos of Iraqi Atrocities

2003-02-24 Thread Alberto Monteiro
JDG wrote: How can anyone look at these recently declassified satellite photos and doubt that we are doing the right thing? http://www.iol.ie/~forsacosanta/world_needed_proof.htm Its interesting to consider the standards that civilizations hold.Can anybody imagine such a

Re: Chelsea is offered a $100,000 job

2003-02-24 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CHELSEA CLINTON is the envy of this year's graduate trainees after being offered a $100,000 (£64,500)-a-year job with McKinsey, the New York management consultancy. I wonder what Guatam has to say about this. On second

Maths, Very Interesting!

2003-02-24 Thread Wilbur07
Subject: OT: Tiangco's lecture on statistics From: A HREF=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] /A (Mark Constantino) Date: 2/23/03 10:09 PM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I offered once that a statistical sampling of votes over a normal distribution of voters could

Re: ADD/ADHD

2003-02-24 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Doug Pensinger wrote: I saw a TV program about ADD/ADHD. The schoolkids [from a school in Colorado, IIRC] were diagnosed with ADD after they failed to concentrate on a reading of The Great Gatsby, but this was easily cured when all kids took Ritalin. I don't know if this is a

Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-02-24 Thread Marvin Long, Jr.
On Fri, 21 Feb 2003, Bryon Daly wrote: TNG featured more personal character growth than TOS did (which isn't saying much, really), but not as much as it should/could have had. For every The Inner Light episode (IMHO the single best trek episode ever), there were 10 episodes something like

Star Trek [was: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?]

2003-02-24 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Marvin Long, Jr.wrote: See, TNG falls into unintentional camp a lot of the time, too, I think...it's just more contemporary camp. Kirk may get more than his fair share of voluptuous green-skinned women, but at least he doesn't leer and wag his tongue like Riker whenever the words

Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-02-24 Thread Marvin Long, Jr.
On Sat, 22 Feb 2003, Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo wrote: TOS is embedded in the collective consciousness in a way TNG can never even aspire to be. I remember working as IT in San Juan's Public Works Dept. I used to have ERTL's NCC1701-A model Ahhh...I had the 1701 ERTL model for a long time - I

Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-02-24 Thread Marvin Long, Jr.
On Sat, 22 Feb 2003, Reggie Bautista wrote: You don't remember Salvor Hardin, the mayor who said Never let your sense of morals get in the way of doing what's right, Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent and many other sayings, and is one of the coolest politicians in science

Re: ADD/ADHD

2003-02-24 Thread Steve Sloan II
Alberto Monteiro wrote: The adverse effects of Ritalin were: (1) the kids became very serious (2) one of them started having hallucinations of an insect-woman (3) the kids were enjoying Phil Collins The school chef was the hero of the story, because he noticed the adverse effects and managed

Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-02-24 Thread Marvin Long, Jr.
On Sun, 23 Feb 2003, Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo wrote: However, and someone out there must agree with me, *something* happened with the Trek franchise after the end of TNG and shortly after Generations was released. If I must find hard evidence of this claim, I can mention that the popularity of

Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-02-24 Thread Steve Sloan II
Marvin Long, Jr. wrote: Patriotism is the last refuge of the incompetent. --Samuel Johnson (1709 - 1784) I thought patriotism was the last refuge of the *scoundrel.* (?) I'm guessing that Mark Twain (?) paraphrased Samuel Johnson's quote.

Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-02-24 Thread Marvin Long, Jr.
On Mon, 24 Feb 2003, Steve Sloan II wrote: Marvin Long, Jr. wrote: Patriotism is the last refuge of the incompetent. --Samuel Johnson (1709 - 1784) I thought patriotism was the last refuge of the *scoundrel.* (?) I'm guessing that Mark Twain (?) paraphrased

Re: Death Penalty (Was: Re: EU Warns Iraq It Faces 'Last Chance')

2003-02-24 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Richard Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 3:28 AM Subject: Re: Death Penalty (Was: Re: EU Warns Iraq It Faces 'Last Chance') Rich, who thinks it would all look the same to a godlike alien.

Re: Death Penalty (Was: Re: EU Warns Iraq It Faces 'Last Chance')

2003-02-24 Thread Julia Thompson
Jon Gabriel wrote: Texas was barbecuing their criminals (okay, okay... it's an awful choice of words) on a regular basis while GWB was governor. I can't imagine that all those people really deserved to be put to death for their crimes. And, as you said, the disproportionate numbers of

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2003-02-24 Thread Julia Thompson
http://www.zefrank.com/byokal/kal2.html Kaleidoscope. Fun! Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Death Penalty (Was: Re: EU Warns Iraq It Faces 'Last Chance')

2003-02-24 Thread Richard Baker
DanM said: Rich, who thinks it would all look the same to a godlike alien. One comment on this last statement. The worst of Trek to me was the superior aliens who looked down on humans for fighting, but were so powerful that they didn't need to defend themselves violently... That wasn't

Re: Tacky Star Trek models on eBay.....

2003-02-24 Thread Marvin Long, Jr.
On Sun, 23 Feb 2003, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: Are you old enough to remember the US Bicentennial? I'll take a red, white, and blue _Enterprise_ over a red, white, and blue toilet seat or a red, white, and blue coffin any day . . . Mm. I remember visiting a train...Freedom Train or

Jury Duty (was RE: Death Penalty (Was: Re: EU Warns Iraq It Faces'Last Chance'))

2003-02-24 Thread Miller, Jeffrey
-Original Message- From: Julia Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 09:03 AM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Re: Death Penalty (Was: Re: EU Warns Iraq It Faces 'Last Chance') potential juror (or, potential juror once her youngest child is

Bush Ashcroft vs. US Constitution

2003-02-24 Thread Erik Reuter
http://makeashorterlink.com/?D18125593 excerpt: Two American citizens are now held in solitary confinement under this asserted presidential power. One, Yasser Hamdi, was found under unexplained circumstances on a battlefield in Afghanistan. The other, Jose Padilla, was arrested on arrival at

Re: The Day the Protest Music Died

2003-02-24 Thread Marvin Long, Jr.
The solution, of course, is to actually go somewhere and listen to real live musicians who don't owe their souls to David Geffen with other real live people who have decided, like you, that pop radio sucks. (Easier said than done, depending on where you live, but still.) It won't fix radio

Re: Jury Duty (was RE: Death Penalty (Was: Re: EU Warns Iraq ItFaces 'Last Chance'))

2003-02-24 Thread Erik Reuter
On Mon, Feb 24, 2003 at 09:50:56AM -0800, Miller, Jeffrey wrote: What does it take to get called for duty? I've been registered to vote in every place I've lived, but I've never been tapped to sit in the box. Coworkers complain regularly about being called in - what gives? :) I thought

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2003-02-24 Thread The Fool
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/story/60991p-57008c.html A music industry case study A look at a mythical rock band's earnings, with actual figures compiled from industry sources: New York City's hottest new band is Grunthead, a four-piece hard rock group from Maspeth. Because

W vs the Clean Air Act

2003-02-24 Thread The Fool
http://archive.nytimes.com/2003/02/21/politics/21ENVI.html Seven state attorneys general, all Democrats, mostly from the Northeast, announced today that they would file a lawsuit accusing the Environmental Protection Agency of failing to enforce the Clean Air Act by neglecting to update air

W deficits

2003-02-24 Thread The Fool
The George W. Diet Lose unsightly pounds by eating like a pig. By Michael Kinsley Posted Thursday, February 20, 2003, at 9:01 AM PT Suppose you had a friend who was grossly overweight for years but lately had been looking very trim. Suddenly, though, he puts on 30 or 40 pounds and is waddling

Re: Head Injuries

2003-02-24 Thread William T Goodall
On Monday, February 24, 2003, at 12:17 pm, Alberto Monteiro wrote: Bob Zimmerman wrote: I am horrible with names. I once avoided the chairman of my department during a party because I could not remember the name of his wife. I'm ok with faces. Me too. And I bluff. And I am sometimes caught at

SCOUTED: Satellite Photos of Iraqi Atrocities

2003-02-24 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
How can anyone look at these recently declassified satellite photos and doubt that we are doing the right thing? http://www.iol.ie/~forsacosanta/world_needed_proof.htm -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

acoustic signatures / tracking

2003-02-24 Thread The Fool
http://inquirerinside.com/?article=7911 ... At present On Alert is in beta testing. The system consists of acoustic sensors that can hang from power lines and street lighting or be mounted on building exteriors. The sensors are programmed to recognise a particular sound signature. They are

US Pledges $10mil for Disarmament Efforts in Afghanistan

2003-02-24 Thread J.D. Giorgis
Obviously, disarmament is just one very small portion of the rebuilding in Afghanistan, but this article belies Krugman's ridiculous assertion that the US was pledging not one cent towards Afghanistan in the next budget. In other news, President Karzai himself has stated that he is, quote, not

Seducing the Governors

2003-02-24 Thread The Fool
http://archive.nytimes.com/2003/02/21/opinion/21FRI1.html Seducing the Governors After Congress failed to create a national health care plan, Medicaid became the default solution to the crisis of the growing number of uninsured Americans. Expanding Medicaid was a success in terms of meeting a

Re: G** C******, was Re: while Rob's away, the list will play....

2003-02-24 Thread Marvin Long, Jr.
On Fri, 21 Feb 2003, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: As was mine. If you'll look carefully at my rant, you'll notice that I tried hard to be equally hard on extremists on both sides of the issue. Mm hm. It did seem like a sincerely asked question, though. liberal version NRA - call it the

Re: ADD/ADHD

2003-02-24 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Steve Sloan wrote: The school chef was the hero of the story, because he noticed the adverse effects and managed to have the kids take antidotes [[ok - time for spoiler: What TV series was this?]] If the school chef was the hero, then I'm guessing South Park. :-) You are cheating! You

Pakistan [L3]

2003-02-24 Thread The Fool
http://www.pbs.org/now/transcript/transcript_hersh.html Transcript: Jane Wallace Interviews Seymour Hersh JANE WALLACE: Thank you for joining us. SY HERSH: Glad to be here. JANE WALLACE: It might be safely said that the one country for whom the war on terror has been a bombless bonanza is

Interview With Hans Blix

2003-02-24 Thread J.D. Giorgis
All Eyes on The Inspector An interview with the U.N. diplomat. He talks about Iraqi credibility, the necessity of a military threat and wrangling within the Security Council Posted Sunday, February 23, 2003; 10:31 a.m. EST TIME: In a perfect world, how long should inspections

Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-02-24 Thread Marvin Long, Jr.
On Sun, 23 Feb 2003, Alberto Monteiro wrote: Marvin is a robot Alberto Monteiro I prefer the term industrial mandroid, thank you. Marvin Long Austin, Texas Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Poindexter Ashcroft, LLP (Formerly the USA) http://www.breakyourchains.org/john_poindexter.htm

Re: Interview With Hans Blix

2003-02-24 Thread Julia Thompson
J.D. Giorgis wrote: All Eyes on The Inspector An interview with the U.N. diplomat. He talks about Iraqi credibility, the necessity of a military threat and wrangling within the Security Council Which looks a lot like the interview Rob posted yesterday Can anyone go through the two

Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-02-24 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 01:34 PM 2/24/03 -0600, Marvin Long, Jr. wrote: On Sun, 23 Feb 2003, Alberto Monteiro wrote: Marvin is a robot Alberto Monteiro I prefer the term industrial mandroid, thank you. I suppose you prefer that to being a tap-dancing horse . . . -- Ronn! :) Almighty Ruler of the all,

RE: Interview With Hans Blix

2003-02-24 Thread Miller, Jeffrey
-Original Message- From: Julia Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 12:05 PM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Re: Interview With Hans Blix J.D. Giorgis wrote: All Eyes on The Inspector An interview with the U.N. diplomat. He talks

The Best Case Against Iraq Yet

2003-02-24 Thread J.D. Giorgis
February 21, 2003 A Last Chance to Stop Iraq By KENNETH M. POLLACK WASHINGTON — With the Bush administration set to put a resolution on Iraq before the United Nations Security Council next week, those opposed to war will rally around the notion that Saddam Hussein can be deterred from

Re: Jury Duty (was RE: Death Penalty (Was: Re: EU Warns Iraq It Faces'Last Chance'))

2003-02-24 Thread Julia Thompson
Miller, Jeffrey wrote: -Original Message- From: Julia Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 09:03 AM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Re: Death Penalty (Was: Re: EU Warns Iraq It Faces 'Last Chance') potential juror (or, potential juror

Re: ADD/ADHD

2003-02-24 Thread Julia Thompson
Alberto Monteiro wrote: Steve Sloan wrote: The school chef was the hero of the story, because he noticed the adverse effects and managed to have the kids take antidotes [[ok - time for spoiler: What TV series was this?]] If the school chef was the hero, then I'm guessing South

Re: Death Penalty (Was: Re: EU Warns Iraq It Faces 'Last Chance')

2003-02-24 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Bradford DeLong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [I wrote] My personal opinion is that it is justifiable for the state to execute persons who have been proven beyond a reasonable doubt to have committed heinous crimes. Ummm... Don't you want to say that it is justifiable for the state to

Boeing scenerioed them rosely: Wishful thinking engineering

2003-02-24 Thread Dan Minette
At http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/news/front/5247837.htm we see a very disturbing statement by Boeing engineers. Engineers who designed the risk analysis software package that was used to assure NASA that the shuttle could safely re-enter the atmosphere stated that the people who ran it for

Re: Death Penalty (Was: Re: EU Warns Iraq It Faces 'Last Chance')

2003-02-24 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 3:04 PM Subject: Re: Death Penalty (Was: Re: EU Warns Iraq It Faces 'Last Chance') Well, to me proven beyond a reasonable doubt should mean that no

Re: Jury Duty (was stuff I snipped)

2003-02-24 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 09:50 AM 2/24/03 -0800, Miller, Jeffrey wrote: -Original Message- From: Julia Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 09:03 AM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Re: Death Penalty (Was: Re: EU Warns Iraq It Faces 'Last Chance') potential juror (or,

Re: Banning the French . . .

2003-02-24 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Jean-Louis Couturier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [I wrote] Does anyone know off the top of their head by what margin Chirac won? snip He got more than 80% of the vote. In the primaries, the left vote was divided and the two candidates with the most votes were Chirac and Le Pen. Here

Re: Head Injuries (was Re: Anger (was Re: JVB flames (was RE:POLICY ...)))

2003-02-24 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 17:09 23-2-2003 -0600, Ronn Blankenship wrote: Forgetting names, anniversaries, dentist appointments, etc., is normal (if annoying, or in the second instance, life-threatening . . . ). Dentist appointment. Damn, I *knew* there was something I had to do. :-) Jeroen Memory Holes van

Re: EU Warns Iraq It Faces 'Last Chance'

2003-02-24 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 5:43 PM Subject: Re: EU Warns Iraq It Faces 'Last Chance' For congressional districts, if there's a bias one way or the other, you go with the group

Scouted: Windows Messenger Popups

2003-02-24 Thread Jon Gabriel
A friend was suffering from infrequent, uncontrollable advertising popups in Windows, so he bought a program for $25 to shut them off. Thought I'd post this URL in case anyone was thinking of doing the same. The procedure to shut down the built-in advertising is simple, and doesn't require a

Re: Death Penalty (Was: Re: EU Warns Iraq It Faces 'Last Chance')

2003-02-24 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 11:02 AM 2/24/2003 -0600, you wrote: Jon Gabriel wrote: Texas was barbecuing their criminals (okay, okay... it's an awful choice of words) on a regular basis while GWB was governor. I can't imagine that all those people really deserved to be put to death for their crimes. And, as you

Re: Jury Duty (was RE: Death Penalty (Was: Re: EU Warns IraqIt Faces'Last Chance'))

2003-02-24 Thread Kevin Tarr
and the third time, I went in on Friday, got put in a pool to be called back Monday, and on Monday, it turned out they had to postpone the case, so the entire pool was released by 11AM (which was just as well, as I'd gotten e-mail just before I left the house saying I had to go the opposite

Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-02-24 Thread Reggie Bautista
Marvin wrote: Ok, I just had to check... http://www.samueljohnson.com/refuge.html which has the quote as Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel. When I was looking for that quote to post it, I found not 1, not 2, but 3 pages that stated it as ...of the incompetent. And now I can't find

Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-02-24 Thread Erik Reuter
On Mon, Feb 24, 2003 at 05:05:59PM -0600, Reggie Bautista wrote: which has the quote as Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel. When I was looking for that quote to post it, I found not 1, not 2, but 3 pages that stated it as ...of the incompetent. And now I can't find any. Guess

Re: Head Injuries (was Re: Anger (was Re: JVB flames (was RE:POLICY...)))

2003-02-24 Thread Bryon Daly
Ronn!Blankenship wrote: FWIW, my memory for trivial details is excellent. And I can drone on and on for hours about science-related stuff without ever having to refer to the textbook, much to the chagrin of some of my students who wish I'd shut up. OTOH, I also have a lousy memory for

Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-02-24 Thread Reggie Bautista
I wrote: And now I can't find any. Guess how that makes me feel :-) Erik replied: Patriotic? Incompetent? Scoundrelish? :-) At least two out of the three :-) Reggie Bautista No Value Added Maru _ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail

Re: Wealth trends and Bush's tax cuts

2003-02-24 Thread Bryon Daly
John D. Giorgis wrote: At 10:02 AM 2/22/2003 -0600 Dan Minette wrote: Bush has another double taxation he could have eliminated: taxes on the money which pays the Social Security tax. Is the fact that that mainly benefits individuals who make 75k/year and that he doesn't favor this a

Re: Head Injuries (was Re: Anger ...) and a bit on ADD etc.

2003-02-24 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- J. van Baardwijk wrote: Ronn! wrote: [Jeroen wrote] Well, I *did* have a major concussion once (kept me out of school for six weeks), but that was some 25 years ago... Goodness! Six weeks? Do you mind sharing what happened? some snippage My memory of that time is fuzzy at best

Re: bush and Title IX

2003-02-24 Thread Bryon Daly
John D. Giorgis wrote: Unfortunately, Title IX, which states that colleges and universities must have a number of intercollegiate athletic slots in proportion to their total male-female enrollment, is a well-intentioned idea with two serious flaws. 1) It presumes that men and women students

Re: Head Injuries (was Re: Anger ...) and a bit on ADD etc.

2003-02-24 Thread Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo
From: Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Physical modalities like exercise, nutrition, and meditation/focusing work (I count things like tai chi and yoga in this category), which others have written about, are also essential; in quite a few cases, they are sufficient therapy. Debbi There Is No Gift

Re: Jury Duty (was RE: Death Penalty (Was: Re: EU Warns IraqIt Faces'Last Chance'))

2003-02-24 Thread Julia Thompson
Kevin Tarr wrote: and the third time, I went in on Friday, got put in a pool to be called back Monday, and on Monday, it turned out they had to postpone the case, so the entire pool was released by 11AM (which was just as well, as I'd gotten e-mail just before I left the house saying I had

Re: Boeing scenerioed them rosely: Wishful thinking engineering

2003-02-24 Thread Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo
From: Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] At http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/news/front/5247837.htm we see a very disturbing statement by Boeing engineers. Engineers who designed the risk analysis software package that was used to assure NASA that the shuttle could safely re-enter the atmosphere

signs, astrology, numerology and other prattling

2003-02-24 Thread Gary L. Nunn
Warning, this post is the result of a long day and a tired mind mixed with a little bit of sentimentality, so no flames, virtual bricks or snide comments please :-) I am not a big believer in signs or astrology, but sometimes the coincidences are simply too amazing. And sometimes the horoscopes

Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-02-24 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marvin Long, Jr. wrote: Alberto Monteiro wrote: Marvin is a robot I prefer the term industrial mandroid, thank you. I suppose you prefer that to being a tap-dancing horse . . . Well, but an industrial mandroid could probably do

Re: Death Penalty (Was: Re: EU Warns Iraq It Faces 'LastChance')

2003-02-24 Thread Julia Thompson
Kevin Tarr wrote: At 11:02 AM 2/24/2003 -0600, you wrote: Jon Gabriel wrote: Texas was barbecuing their criminals (okay, okay... it's an awful choice of words) on a regular basis while GWB was governor. I can't imagine that all those people really deserved to be put to death for

Re: Star Trek [was: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?]

2003-02-24 Thread Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo
From: Alberto Monteiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think the problem with both TOS and TNG - and this is attenuated in DS9, Voyager and Enterprise - is the number of God-like creatures they meet. I guess 1/4 of the TOS episodes have Kirk against God, and

Re: Death Penalty (Was: Re: EU Warns Iraq It Faces 'Last Chance')

2003-02-24 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, to me proven beyond a reasonable doubt should mean that no one could be executed on circumstantial or otherwise less-than-absolute evidence. That is not how reasonable doubt is defined, at least

Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-02-24 Thread Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo
From: Marvin Long, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ahhh...I had the 1701 ERTL model for a long time - I still have a die-cast TOS Enterprise that shoots little yellow round photon torpedos and has a detachable shuttle. I bought it from Sears in the seventies with a $20 bill I found lying on the ground in

Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-02-24 Thread Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo
From: Marvin Long, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] And TOS doesn't have holodeck episodes. Marvin Long Does the continuity of The Animated Series count? They did have the holodeck there! Courtesy of DC Fontana, I believe. :) TAS also boasted the first holodeck goes bananas and tries to kill the crew

Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-02-24 Thread Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo
From: Marvin Long, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Of course, by the time ST:TMP came out, the original cast already included a number of cultural icons - putting them on the big screen just confirmed that status. TNG was a popular show, but as you've pointed out earlier, it was not a cast of iconic

Re: Boeing scenerioed them rosely: Wishful thinking engineering

2003-02-24 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo wrote: What criteria does a company like Boeing use to decide who gets an assignment of this nature? Those companies are ruled by the marketing and sales department, who - being young idiots with an MBA - think that any engineer with 10 or 20 years of experience is a

Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-02-24 Thread Reggie Bautista
JJ wrote: Would Gene consider DS9 bad Trek? Most likely, and I agree with your view. His associates claim that he totally despised the premise for the show, like I mentioned a couple of weeks back. He was very protective of his property. If I remember correctly, his opinion was: if he didn't

Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-02-24 Thread Bryon Daly
Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo wrote: Unfortunately, 16+ years of ST:TNG episodes on re-runs aren't helping that. Maybe somebody in Paramount hopes that if they re-run the episodes long enough, the characters will achieve the same legendary status. Tough luck. Anybody has any idea on what the theme for

Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-02-24 Thread Reggie Bautista
JJ wrote: Anybody has any idea on what the theme for the next Trek film may be? I'm not sure about the success of ST:X either. First, to answer your second question, this link: http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/art-main.html?2003-02/21/09.00.tv or http://makeashorterlink.com/?U11954693 As far as

Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-02-24 Thread Reggie Bautista
Marvin wrote: And TOS doesn't have holodeck episodes. JJ replied: Does the continuity of The Animated Series count? They did have the holodeck there! Courtesy of DC Fontana, I believe. :) But that wouldn't be TOS, it would be TAS, even though it had TOC (the original crew), right? ;-) Of

Re: Star Trek [was: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?]

2003-02-24 Thread Reggie Bautista
Alberto wrote: TNG is infected by that ridiculous Q. JJ replied: Hey, hey!! Don't mess with Q!!! :) The idea of an omnipotent character is something that continually surfaces in Rodenberry's work. In TOS, it was Trelane, then Q. I found Trelane really annoying. But Q is a piece of work. I

Re: Bush Ashcroft vs. US Constitution

2003-02-24 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://makeashorterlink.com/?D18125593 excerpt: Two American citizens are now held in solitary confinement under this asserted presidential power. snip That reasoning reduced constitutional law to sleight of hand: The government can impose

Re: ADD/ADHD (was RE: Head Injuries (was Re: Anger)

2003-02-24 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 2/23/2003 11:37:18N PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, I don't think they'll win the Super Bowl. The Penguins will. Not if Gustav Maler has anyting to do wit it. ___

Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-02-24 Thread Bryon Daly
Reggie Bautista wrote: I can understand that, and can sympathize to some extent. I'm a big fan of Babylon 5, but if someone tried to do a show in the B5 universe without approval of jms, the Roddenberry of B5, I probably wouldn't be interested and I'm *certain* jms would be very unhappy and

Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-02-24 Thread Julia Thompson
Reggie Bautista wrote: Marvin wrote: Ok, I just had to check... http://www.samueljohnson.com/refuge.html which has the quote as Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel. When I was looking for that quote to post it, I found not 1, not 2, but 3 pages that stated it as ...of the

Re: Death Penalty (Was: Re: EU Warns Iraq It Faces 'Last Chance')

2003-02-24 Thread William T Goodall
On Monday, February 24, 2003, at 05:02 pm, Julia Thompson wrote: Jon Gabriel wrote: Texas was barbecuing their criminals (okay, okay... it's an awful choice of words) on a regular basis while GWB was governor. I can't imagine that all those people really deserved to be put to death for their

Re: Star Trek [was: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?]

2003-02-24 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Reggie Bautista [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alberto wrote: TNG is infected by that ridiculous Q. JJ replied: Hey, hey!! Don't mess with Q!!! :) The idea of an omnipotent character is something that continually surfaces in Rodenberry's work. In TOS, it was Trelane, then Q. I found

Saddam Challenges Bush To Debate

2003-02-24 Thread Robert Seeberger
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/02/21/iraq/main541427.shtml Saddam Hussein denied his al-Samoud missiles were in violation of U.N. mandates and indicated he will resist demands that he destroy them. He also challenged President Bush to a live broadcast debate on the looming war. The

AIDS vaccine experiment fails but shows promise in blacks

2003-02-24 Thread Robert Seeberger
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2003/02/23/fina ncial0140EST0115.DTL An experimental AIDS vaccine being developed by VaxGen Inc. does not appear to protect most people from the disease, but showed promise in protecting blacks and Asians, the company said late Sunday.

Iraqi Drones May Target U.S. Cities

2003-02-24 Thread Robert Seeberger
http://foxnews.com/story/0,2933,79450,00.html Iraq could be planning a chemical or biological attack on American cities through the use of remote-controlled drone planes equipped with GPS tracking maps, according to U.S. intelligence. The information about Iraq's unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV)

Re: Head Injuries (was Re: Anger ...) and a bit on ADD etc.

2003-02-24 Thread Bemmzim
One of the problems with diagnosing just what deficits traumatic brain injury (TBI) can cause is the inability to image the injury(s); what is believed to cause some of these deficits is shearing damage to individual nerve axons and/or dendrites. IOW, the acceleration/deceleration of the

Re: Head Injuries (was Re: Anger ...) and a bit on ADD etc.

2003-02-24 Thread Bemmzim
One of the problems with diagnosing just what deficits traumatic brain injury (TBI) can cause is the inability to image the injury(s); what is believed to cause some of these deficits is shearing damage to individual nerve axons and/or dendrites. IOW, the acceleration/deceleration of the

Re: Star Trek [was: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?]

2003-02-24 Thread Jim Sharkey
Deborah Harrell wrote: And some ST fan(atic)s say that Trelane in The Squire of Gothos, was probably a young Q. I don't recall the title, but one of the ST paperbacks definitely uses that idea. IIRC, that was Q-Squared by Peter David. And I think John DeLancie had a hand in that one too. Jim

Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-02-24 Thread Julia Thompson
Bryon Daly wrote: Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo wrote: Unfortunately, 16+ years of ST:TNG episodes on re-runs aren't helping that. Maybe somebody in Paramount hopes that if they re-run the episodes long enough, the characters will achieve the same legendary status. Tough luck. Anybody has any

Re: ADD/ADHD (was RE: Head Injuries (was Re: Anger)

2003-02-24 Thread Julia Thompson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 2/23/2003 11:37:18N PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, I don't think they'll win the Super Bowl. The Penguins will. Not if Gustav Maler has anyting to do wit it. OK, you got me on that one. Who's Gustav Maler?

Re: ADD/ADHD (was RE: Head Injuries (was Re: Anger)

2003-02-24 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 9:19 PM Subject: Re: ADD/ADHD (was RE: Head Injuries (was Re: Anger) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 2/23/2003 11:37:18N PM Eastern

Re: ADD/ADHD (was RE: Head Injuries (was Re: Anger)

2003-02-24 Thread Adam C. Lipscomb
Dan wrote: - Original Message - From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 9:19 PM Subject: Re: ADD/ADHD (was RE: Head Injuries (was Re: Anger) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 2/23/2003

Re: ADD/ADHD (was RE: Head Injuries (was Re: Anger)

2003-02-24 Thread Julia Thompson
Adam C. Lipscomb wrote: Dan wrote: - Original Message - From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 9:19 PM Subject: Re: ADD/ADHD (was RE: Head Injuries (was Re: Anger) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: Head Injuries (was Re: Anger ...) and a bit on ADD etc.

2003-02-24 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [I wrote:] One of the problems with diagnosing just what deficits traumatic brain injury (TBI) can cause is the inability to image the injury(s); what is believed to cause some of these deficits is shearing damage to individual nerve axons and/or dendrites.

GWB may owe Saddam a thank you for being stupid note

2003-02-24 Thread Dan Minette
At http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/home/main100.shtml we see the report that Saddam Hussein denied his al-Samoud 2 missiles violated U.N. mandates and indicated he will resist demands to destroy them. If he does, then that will change the chances for the US resolution passing the Security

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