Re: Explanation

2003-11-14 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 11/14/2003 4:47:07 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: well, I *do* toss out the baseball/football posts frequently :\ No no say it isn't so. I have been engaged in these mostly for your entertainment ___

Re: On trolling

2003-11-14 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 11/14/2003 5:01:20 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Are you trying to insinuate that some of us are obsessed with SPORTS??? I was thinking more about Sports Wear. ___

Re: Philosophical question

2003-11-11 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 11/10/2003 10:34:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 42 for a woman, 39 for a man. But much more importantly what is the median of life? What is the mean of life? Julia ___

Re: On trolling

2003-11-11 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 11/10/2003 11:17:06 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I wonder if this person would consider trolling to include posting multiple articles every day, with insult-laden subject lines, propogate a single peculiar agenda?It seems to me that that

Re: Dogmatism

2003-11-03 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 11/2/2003 1:30:10 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Marx _certainly_ would have approved of Lenin's and Stalin's anti-semitism. On the Jewish Question is so viciously anti-semitic that the historical affinity of some Jewish intellectuals for Marxism has

Re: It's a boy!

2003-10-30 Thread Bemmzim
Congratulations ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: McNabb and Limbaugh Re: Raceism

2003-10-26 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 10/23/2003 9:51:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I dunno. it seems very weird to me that in wondering if somebody is a racist that the second question one would ask is does he give money to black colleges? Just an example. I'm still waiting for

Re: McNabb and Limbaugh Re: Raceism

2003-10-26 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 10/23/2003 9:54:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is one of the most infuriating comments that I have heard from many sources regarding this whole thing what is the point of appealing in code to somebody in this instance? i.e. for what

Re: Pedro...

2003-10-19 Thread Bemmzim
: ...sure doesn't look very impressive to me. His post season ERA has to be up around 5 somewhere, he's too whimpy to pitch on 3 days rest, and his sportsmanship is questionable to boot. I was a Red Sox fan and a Yankee hater for most of my youth and into my adulthood, but I'm

Re: Pedro...

2003-10-19 Thread Bemmzim
: ...sure doesn't look very impressive to me. His post season ERA has to be up around 5 somewhere, he's too whimpy to pitch on 3 days rest, and his sportsmanship is questionable to boot. I was a Red Sox fan and a Yankee hater for most of my youth and into my adulthood, but I'm

Earth is here

2003-10-14 Thread Bemmzim
Did anyone see the Week In Review in the NYT today? An article on people using photo phones to take pictures of strangers doing odd/embarrasssing things in public and posting same on the Web. The beginning of what Brin talked about in his novel. Excellent forseeing

Earth is here

2003-10-14 Thread Bemmzim
Did anyone see the Week In Review in the NYT today? An article on people using photo phones to take pictures of strangers doing odd/embarrasssing things in public and posting same on the Web. The beginning of what Brin talked about in his novel. Excellent forseeing

Re: McNabb and Limbaugh Re: Raceism

2003-10-14 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 10/11/2003 1:21:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Indeed. In fact, if ESPN had fired Limbaugh because his comments showed an utter lack of knowledge about football and the media hyping of all mobile QB's, be they Doug Flutie or Donovan McNabb, I

Re: Pedro...

2003-10-14 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 10/14/2003 4:15:43 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I was a Red Sox fan and a Yankee hater for most of my youth and into my adulthood, but I'm rooting for these jerkoffs to loose. Go Cubs... Which jerkoff. the ny jerkoffs (my team) or the boston

Re: McNabb and Limbaugh Re: Raceism

2003-10-14 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 10/14/2003 5:51:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: but his argument was not, on its face, entirely unreasonable. It certainly wasn't racist. Calling him a racist is nothing more than the usual tactic of arguing that anybody who disagrees with the PC

Re: Welcome to the Thompson Twins!

2003-09-29 Thread Bemmzim
congratulations congratulations ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: The Greatest Story Ever Sold

2003-09-23 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 9/22/2003 9:52:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The Fool quoted: I never called the movie anti-Semitic (...) Which is stupid, because the Gospels _are_ anti-Semitic, and a movie that pretends to be faithful to them [AFAIK, if Gibson wants to

Re: The Greatest Story Ever Sold

2003-09-23 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 9/22/2003 9:52:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The Fool quoted: I never called the movie anti-Semitic (...) Which is stupid, because the Gospels _are_ anti-Semitic, and a movie that pretends to be faithful to them [AFAIK, if Gibson wants to

Re: br!n: feudalism meme in america

2003-09-07 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 9/6/2003 7:45:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Of course I could go on to say that feudalism was an agreement between two men in which one did service for the other in exchange for land, and has nothing to do with rulership. But then, I don't think

Re: blackout image from space...

2003-08-30 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 8/29/2003 6:48:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Interesting image of the blackout from a geosynchronous satellite Actually this photo is apparently a hoax or at least a composite of a series of photos.

Re: unconstitutional House vote sanctifies religion

2003-08-28 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 8/27/2003 5:01:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On the flip side, many are claiming that to forcibly remove the Ten Commandments monument would violate _their_ First Amendment rights of freedom of religion. (I'm not arguing one way or the other

Re: The immorality of the Ten Commandments

2003-08-28 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 8/28/2003 1:59:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Moore's Law The immorality of the Ten Commandments. By Christopher Hitchens Posted Wednesday, August 27, 2003, at 2:04 PM PT George Carlin did this first and it was funnier

Re: ADMIN: More blasted testing

2003-08-27 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 8/25/2003 9:38:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've upgraded Mailman from 2.1 to 2.1.2 and hope that now it'll behave. But there's also a patch I think I need to apply... Let's just see if this message gets out. Got it -- Nick Arnett

Re: Hyperion - The Motion Picture

2003-08-14 Thread Bemmzim
I can see Endymion as a stand-alone movie. But I agree, Hyperion and Fall would be nearly impossible to transfer properly to the big screen. That is what they said about LOR. Just get Peter Jackson to devote a few years to the project ___

Re: Politics, was [L3] Re: fight the evil of price discrimination

2003-08-14 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 8/10/2003 3:55:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This very concept is now being chalanged. Not the spoken ability, but the assumption made by chomsky et. al. that writen ability is also inate is now under an increasing amount of attack. I am no

Re: I've done it again!

2003-08-14 Thread Bemmzim
Reproduced, that is. Alexander Norman Lipscomb (Alec) was born at 7:46 AM on Monday, August 11th. He weighed 9 lbs, 8 oz, and his mother is incredibly happy that someone else will be carrying him for the next while. Congratulations. Woohoo Congratulations to you both!!! :-)

Re: Hyperion - The Motion Picture - Illium the book

2003-08-14 Thread Bemmzim
Just finished Simmons newest. Liked it quite alot. Like Hyperion it is part 1 of a 2 parter. The first uses the Illiad the second the Oddysea (probably speled both of these classics). Nice mix of fiction and mythology. Three apparently seperate stories that come together at the end. Still have

Re: Most Dangerous States

2003-08-14 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 8/11/2003 1:14:19 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That would only hold true if the criminals were aware of who did and who did not own guns ahead of time. I think the gist of the argument is that legal gun ownership deters crime in general and there are

Re: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-08-14 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 8/2/2003 12:46:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Which of course is what this all about.So many Democrats turned a blind eye to Clinton's perjury But this is where you are precisely wrong John. No democrat defended Clinton this. Not one

Re: Dubya with Kung Fu Grip

2003-08-12 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 8/10/2003 12:26:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time, TomFODW writes: Interestingly, in his novel Snow in August, set in Brooklyn in the late 1940s, Pete Hammill has a rabbi who is a refugee from Nazi Germany teach a Catholic teenager he befriends how to create the Golem. Good

Re: Politics, was [L3] Re: fight the evil of price discrimination

2003-08-10 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 8/3/2003 12:54:16 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Now, I think both of them are very important figures, because they are extremely influential. One is the single most cited living intellectual. The other edits the most important magazine of th Left.

Re: ADMIN: Julia and Jose are running the show, mostly

2003-08-08 Thread Bemmzim
My best friend, business partner and often the backup admin for Brin-L, had a seizure this morning at 3 a.m., went to a nearby hospital, where a CT scan showed a 2x3 cm mass in his left parietal node. He was transferred to Stanford, where he's finally getting some rest now, I think. I am

I'm on vacation

2003-08-01 Thread Bemmzim
I will be off to the Canadian Rockies for about 10 days. I expect to have about 2000 emails by the time I get back and so don't expect much from me even then. Now children play nice until I get back ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-07-31 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 7/30/2003 10:20:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As is usual in the intelligence business, the British said that they can't reveal their sources so as to preserve their leads. Now what? Don't use it in the SOU. You don't insult the british by

Re: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-07-30 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 7/29/2003 10:57:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Actually, Bush *did* do that, and Britain said that they completely stand by their intelligence with the highest degree of confidence. Oh I get it; it went like this. Bush- Do you guys have

Re: Who Are the US's Allies? Re: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-07-29 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 7/28/2003 9:16:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ahem. You have forgotten Austalia, who was very much a true ally. You have also forgotten Japan, the leader of which essentially got his country's constitution ammended so that Japan could help us out

Re: Who Are the US's Allies? Re: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-07-29 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 7/28/2003 9:16:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ahem. You have forgotten Austalia, who was very much a true ally. You have also forgotten Japan, the leader of which essentially got his country's constitution ammended so that Japan could help us out

Re: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-07-28 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 7/27/2003 6:43:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And its unclear that arrest is even the proper word to describe what the Chairman tried to do - since I don't think that even if the Chairman's request had been carried out that the Democratic

Re: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-07-28 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 7/27/2003 6:41:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Lastly, if Al Gore had won the 2000 election, would you be bitterly complaining that he did so thanks to his partisans on the Florida Supreme Court? If a full recount of the florida vote had been

Re: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-07-28 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 7/27/2003 7:07:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: At 06:49 PM 7/27/2003 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: QUESTION 1) The British inform us that they have learned that Iraq has recently tried to acquire significant quantities of intelligence in

Re: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-07-28 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 7/27/2003 9:21:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Do you seriously believe that if any person other than Bush were President we would have taken out Saddam by now? Really? I think there was some sentiment to do this amoung Clinton's advisors. I am not

Re: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-07-27 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 7/24/2003 11:43:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Didn't they used to duel on the floors of Congress? Sounds like classic ingomious political chicanery to me. Sounds more like republican arrogance to me. Now the perpetrator (chairman of the House

Re: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-07-27 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 7/24/2003 11:47:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If your criticism is that Bush said learned instead of informed us that they believe, then who is being pedantic and mincing words here? The criticsm is that this is a weasally way of saying something

Re: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-07-27 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 7/25/2003 1:08:42 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Uh, didja forget? Gore *did* win -- the vote, anyway. Just not the office that usually goes with it. I am not one who thinks that Gore won. The popular vote does not determine the final result and

Re: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-07-27 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 7/25/2003 8:54:11 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Eh, probably not. I have an almost reflexive need to point out the truth - and ultimately I consider this growing urban legend that the USSC somehow changed the outcome of the 2000 election to

Re: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-07-27 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 7/25/2003 9:09:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The fact that a Committee Chairman in the House is making that tradeoff in a way that the minority disagrees with is hardly new. Thus, I know that I am not a hypocrite, as you accuse, because Democratic

Re: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-07-27 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 7/25/2003 9:28:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think that's Gautam's point. If, as you seem to agree, the Left is simply incapable of coming up with a coherent war plan against terrorism, then the Left is inherently unqualified and unworthy to

Re: When does it end? (RE: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words)

2003-07-27 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 7/25/2003 10:22:08 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 1) The establishment of a secure, viable and independent Palestine alongside Israel. 2) Regime change in Iran, Syria, Lybia, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and the DPRK We would then be at war for at least a

Re: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-07-27 Thread Bemmzim
QUESTION 1) The British inform us that they have learned that Iraq has recently tried to acquire significant quantities of intelligence in Africa. The Bush Administration naturally tries to verify this claim, but cannot do so. They tell the British that we can't verify their claim.

Re: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-07-27 Thread Bemmzim
QUESTION 1) The British inform us that they have learned that Iraq has recently tried to acquire significant quantities of intelligence in Africa. The Bush Administration naturally tries to verify this claim, but cannot do so. They tell the British that we can't verify their claim.

Re: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-07-27 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 7/27/2003 5:48:11 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Not to say that the Republicans look all that good in this, but it could have been worse. (And then the backlash would have been that much more, as well.) Worse in what way in 21st Century USA? Had

Re: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-07-24 Thread Bemmzim
I think statements indicating that the administration is obviously telling the truth and that anyone not agreeing this is either what? stupid? venal? totally naive? totally cynical? Taken advantage of by people more interested in political power than the national interest. Sol in

Re: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-07-24 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 7/24/2003 8:34:27 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What's carefully crafted about The British have learned The White House wanted a stronger statement but the CIA experts would not appove it. They tried several iterations before this was chosen

Re: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-07-24 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 7/24/2003 5:26:59 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If John Ashcroft were anyone _but_ an evangelical Christian (speaking as a non-evangelical non-Christian) the way he is treated by the Left would be recognized by everyone for what it is - sheer

Re: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-07-23 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 7/21/2003 12:06:30 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This, of course, was a totally unreasonable presumpion regarding intelligence from our British allies, which they had strongly vouched for in response to US questions. But of course this statement was

Re: Cementing the Republican Majority Re: Seth Finkelstein on 16words

2003-07-22 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 7/20/2003 11:29:37 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Illegal?Insuring its control of the US? What are you referring to? Loading the courts with right wing ideologes who will restrict the rigths of citizens to gain justice Ensuring that government

Re: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-07-22 Thread Bemmzim
Actually, a large part of the justification for te war was based on the fact that Iraq was continuing to pursue the acquisition of WMD's - particularly nuclear weapons - and not that it necessarily already had nuclear weapons. Moreover, I also recall Colin Powell mentioning mobile

Re: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-07-22 Thread Bemmzim
At 05:37 PM 7/17/2003 -0700 Gautam Mukunda wrote: Furthermore, Bob, you're much too smart to believe something as dumb as that the world of intelligence is quite as clear as whether Bill Clinton had sex with Monica Lewinsky. Since I never got around to answering Gautam on this issue

Re: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-07-21 Thread Bemmzim
Maybe you think so. I lived two blocks north of the World Trade Center site for a year. Let's just say that I have less than no sympathy for any such view. Let's see how many New Yorkers think we're not at war. How many of the soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan. How many diplomats

Re: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-07-21 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 7/19/2003 9:35:58 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Frankly, Ray, I think that I'm showing a lot more respect for people on the list who disagree with me than most of the people on this list are showing to me. The difference is that I'm in the minority,

Re: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-07-21 Thread Bemmzim
nd becouse of that you are mixing facts as if they were related when they are not. It is an old boys club writ on a global scale. No backing for this. just becouse the above is true (if it is) does not mean that they are not doing what is right when it comes to forign policy. I

Re: Science and knowledge

2003-07-21 Thread Bemmzim
The purpose of science is not to help us understand reality; it is not about the truth. Indeed, one of my favorite statements about science is the most important development in the history of science is when it was decided that it wasn't about the truth. I would argue that most scientists

Re: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-07-21 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 7/19/2003 7:13:04 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: what would you have istead, state capitalism? How about a rationale tax policy? One that stimulates the economy by putting money in the hands that those who will spend it. How about a rationale

Re: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-07-21 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 7/20/2003 11:34:44 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: At 11:10 PM 7/18/2003 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This actually a JDG style arguement. The things that conservatives and replubicans do are right and moral because republicans are right and

Re: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-07-18 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 7/18/2003 3:28:58 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Perhaps Bob should post a rant where he whines about how the conservatives on the list are intolerant of liberals. I have not the time or energy to answer Gautam rant. I will. In a preview, I dare him

Re: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-07-18 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 7/18/2003 11:00:23 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There is a pervasive dishonesty that has crept into this issue where we have people actively crippling American war efforts for short-term partisan advantage - and a bunch of very bright people on the

Re: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-07-18 Thread Bemmzim
for all I know the US would have seized on some other pretext to attack.) Even if this were true, would that have been such a bad thing? It would not be a bad thing if the administration was honest about its intentions and motives. It seems clear that the WMD arguement was

Re: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-07-18 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 7/18/2003 11:55:47 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It is unpatriotic to falsely attack the rationale for the war when it is obvious to anyone who looks at the facts that the Administration was telling the truth. Period But clearly not every one agrees

Re: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-07-18 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 7/18/2003 1:09:43 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I would say that it already has told plenty, actually. The nuclear weapons plans _by themselves_ were a gross violation of the UN sanctions. The plans were a violations but the administration did not

RE: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-07-17 Thread Bemmzim
Of course, there's _also_ the fact that what he said was true.  He claimed that the British told us that Iraq was seeking Uranium in Africa.  A true statement. The British do, in fact, _still_ claim that Iraq was seeking Uranium in Africa - they stand by the claim. A doubly true statement.  

Re: Sandy Kofax

2003-07-14 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 7/6/2003 10:08:51 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: --- Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I remember seeing Ryan in his later Houston years. IIRC, he had one losing season (well maybe it was a 15-14 season) when he led the league in ERA. He

Re: Sandy Kofax

2003-07-14 Thread Bemmzim
I did. I think that was ridiculous. If you think Sandy Koufax was the best pitcher of all time, you're simply wrong. There is no serious argument for this. If you think he was the most dominant pitcher on a per-game basis you're also wrong, but at least you have a case and we can talk

Re: Sandy Kofax

2003-07-14 Thread Bemmzim
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well Koufax, Bob, a pretty knowledgeable baseball guy, said that Pedro was better than he was. That's worth something too, don't you think? He's just being modest. But yes I would take that very seriously. Bob, I have some idea of what a phenomenally accomplished

Re: Sandy Kofax

2003-07-14 Thread Bemmzim
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well Koufax, Bob, a pretty knowledgeable baseball guy, said that Pedro was better than he was. That's worth something too, don't you think? He's just being modest. But yes I would take that very seriously. Bob, I have some idea of what a phenomenally accomplished

Re: Sandy Kofax

2003-07-14 Thread Bemmzim
If we use your metrics - that is, just against the other players of his time, ignoring park effects, difficulty, everything - then why isn't Gibson the best ever? His 1968 season was better than anything Koufax ever did, phenomenal though Koufax was. It was the best season ever in my

Re: Sandy Kofax

2003-07-14 Thread Bemmzim
If we use your metrics - that is, just against the other players of his time, ignoring park effects, difficulty, everything - then why isn't Gibson the best ever? His 1968 season was better than anything Koufax ever did, phenomenal though Koufax was. It was the best season ever in my

Re: Sandy Kofax

2003-07-12 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 7/12/2003 2:27:07 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Adjusted for era, Pedro's numbers at his peak are just flat-out better. A modern's bias would be if the two were roughly equal, and I was saying _that_ showed that Pedro was better. But that is not, in

Re: Sandy Kofax

2003-07-11 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 7/11/2003 4:34:12 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you think he was the most dominant pitcher on a per-game basis you're also wrong, but at least you have a case and we can talk about it. Arguing that he was better than Seaver or Clemens is foolish.

Re: Sandy Kofax

2003-07-11 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 7/11/2003 9:19:09 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John, that's my point. What is the purpose of a pitcher? It's to keep runs off the board. That's it. A pitcher has only one function on a team. No-hitters, strikeouts, stuff, they're all

Re: Sandy Kofax

2003-07-11 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 7/11/2003 9:28:04 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Furthermore, injuries aren't a random or infrequent factor for pitchers. They are a non-random, frequent factor. Power pitchers are less likely to get injured that soft-tossers (Koufax, of course, was

Re: Sandy Kofax

2003-07-11 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 7/11/2003 11:07:15 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yeah, that's my entire point. He's a fine running back. But it takes more than that to be the best ever. Well how about Jim Brown. Walked away from football still in his prime after several dominant

Re: Sandy Kofax

2003-07-11 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 7/11/2003 11:07:15 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yeah, that's my entire point. He's a fine running back. But it takes more than that to be the best ever. Well how about Jim Brown. Walked away from football still in his prime after several dominant

Re: Sandy Kofax

2003-07-10 Thread Bemmzim
Except that Koufax pitched in Dodger Stadium, off a 20 mound (the mound in Dodger Stadium was illegally high) in an era when the _batting title winner_ hit .301 in the American League, and the HR high was in the low 30s, IIRC. Pedro puts up ERAs similar to Koufax's when the batting title

Re: Sandy Kofax

2003-07-10 Thread Bemmzim
Koufax continued. Koufax pitched 397 games; he completed 137 and had 40 shut outs (11 in 63 got that 11 shutouts in one year, 7 in 64 and 8 in 65). Koufax pitched 7 ws games. He was 4 and 3 (4 and 2 from 63 on). His ERA was .97. In 63 the Dodgers swept the Yankess a team that won the AL by

Re: Sandy Kofax

2003-07-10 Thread Bemmzim
part 3 Koufax was big and strong. He had enormous powerful hands. He could hold 6 balls in one hand. He threw two pitches and never varied his release point. He threw fast ball that batters swore sped up. This is of course impossible but what it did not do is slow down (all others do). His

Re: 28 Days Later

2003-07-06 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 7/5/2003 6:21:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I thought the stupid tunnel trip and the expedition into the gas-station house were awfully cheap. Maybe the gas station but I thought the tunnel was cool; after all it is horror sci fi movie and

Re: 28 Days Later

2003-07-06 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 7/5/2003 6:21:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I thought the stupid tunnel trip and the expedition into the gas-station house were awfully cheap. Maybe the gas station but I thought the tunnel was cool; after all it is horror sci fi movie and

Re: 28 Days Later

2003-07-06 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 7/5/2003 6:21:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I thought the stupid tunnel trip and the expedition into the gas-station house were awfully cheap. Maybe the gas station but I thought the tunnel was cool; after all it is horror sci fi movie and

Re: 28 Days Later

2003-07-06 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 7/5/2003 6:21:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I thought the stupid tunnel trip and the expedition into the gas-station house were awfully cheap. Maybe the gas station but I thought the tunnel was cool; after all it is horror sci fi movie and

Re: 28 Days Later

2003-07-06 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 7/5/2003 6:21:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I thought the stupid tunnel trip and the expedition into the gas-station house were awfully cheap. Maybe the gas station but I thought the tunnel was cool; after all it is horror sci fi movie and

Re: Sandy Kofax

2003-07-06 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 7/5/2003 6:31:10 PM Eastern Standard Time, TomFODW writes: There is an unfortunate tendency among some of Koufax's admirers, especially those who have known him, to elevate him into some kind of human paragon. Granted that he appears to be a highly decent, respectful,

Re: Sandy Kofax

2003-07-06 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 7/6/2003 8:15:42 PM Eastern Standard Time, TomFODW writes: I'm not sure I understand your point. Are you saying that Koufax himself would not go along with others' overestimation of him? I certainly agree with you on that, since that was my unstated point: that it was his

Re: 28 Days Later

2003-07-05 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 7/4/2003 10:01:23 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: More than a bit of night of the dead as well. Just saw this today. Despite or in spite of its wholly unoriginal plot this is a terrific movie. See it Are there any explosions? I like

Sandy Kofax

2003-07-05 Thread Bemmzim
No baseball for a while so I thought I might stir the pot. Just finished Jane Leavy's excellent if reverential bio. It provides some insight into this extrarordinarly private man. She dispells notions that he did not really like baseball, or that he was aloof from teamates. But the main thing

Re: 28 Days Later

2003-07-04 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 6/29/2003 11:43:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sounds like _Lifeforce_ without Mathilda May. Bah Or that Richard Matheson novel that got made into The Last Man on Earth with Vincent Price, Omega Man with Charlton Heston, and yet another planned

Re: 28 Days Later

2003-07-04 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 6/29/2003 11:43:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sounds like _Lifeforce_ without Mathilda May. Bah Or that Richard Matheson novel that got made into The Last Man on Earth with Vincent Price, Omega Man with Charlton Heston, and yet another planned

Re: Constantine's cross may have been mushroom cloud from meteorimpact

2003-06-24 Thread Bemmzim
That's the thing about empires. They squeeze out competitive forces and it's those competitive forces that keep innovation and progress alive. For example there was one point when china was all set to conquer Europe, they had a massive fleet the likes never seen up to that time, and their

Re: Constantine's cross may have been mushroom cloud from meteorimpact

2003-06-24 Thread Bemmzim
That's the thing about empires. They squeeze out competitive forces and it's those competitive forces that keep innovation and progress alive. For example there was one point when china was all set to conquer Europe, they had a massive fleet the likes never seen up to that time, and their

Re: Where are the European hypocrites?

2003-06-14 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 6/13/2003 12:46:07 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What right did the UN have to tell Arabs how they would be governed, or to take away their homes? For whatever its worth; Palestine was part of the british empire after the breakup of the Otomen Empire.

Re: Where are the European hypocrites?

2003-06-14 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 6/13/2003 3:25:44 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, I'm not Steve, but you're getting into what might be the single most contentious issue in all of historical research right now. I think one of Leon Uris's novels actually does a really good job of

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