Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak

Both. I used to apply a maintenance coat of just Cetol twice a year. Worked OK. Switched to a maintenance coat of Cetol Gloss twice a year. Like the look better. Longevity seems to be better also. Remember, preparation is critical. Sand teak to bare wood, wipe off surface oils with acetone

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Accepting Bitcoins? ;-) > On Feb 9, 2018, at 11:26 AM, Dennis C. via CnC-List > wrote: > > Send Dennis money. Send Dennis money. > > (Let's see if this works again.) > > Dennis C. > Touche' 35-1 #83 > Mandeville, LA > > > On Feb 9, 2018 8:19 AM, "bushmark4--- via

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David, I'm also a former Cetol user. I switched to Schooner Gold. I was not happy with how quickly it broke down, so I switched to Epiphanes Rapid Clear and RapidCoat. Just as easy as Cetol, but I like the look better and it seems more durable than the Schooner. I'm going to try sealing new

Re: Stus-List Restarting Thread - Insurance

"Agreed value" applies in a total loss situation. Its a ceiling, not a floor. Joel Virus-free. www.avg.com

Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak / sanding between coats

Just be careful it's Spar Varnish and not Polyurethane.  Spar Varnish retains more flexibility so withstand the heat swings of being exposed outside. Caution is advised though - I'm no expert! Bruce Whitmore (847) 404-5092 (mobile) bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net From: William Hall via CnC-List

Re: Stus-List Restarting Thread - Insurance: SHAME on Boat U.S./Geico!

My Ameriprise broker just told me Progressive doesn’t depreciate. Cheers, Randy > On Feb 9, 2018, at 10:12 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List > wrote: > > So what about Progressive or Allstate? > Do either one of them do the “depreciating” BS? I can see depreciating

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Well I did the Progressive online calculator and I think I would save about $200. Right now BOATUS is charging me $150/yr for my Boston Whaler that would be something like $40/yr as an extra boat with Progressive. Switching ASAP! Joe Coquina On 02/09/2018 02:22 PM, Bruce Whitmore via

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I’m with you; I checked my policy earlier today and found that same verbiage. Maybe it’s time to get in touch with BoatUS to express our total and complete disgust. — Fred Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( > On Feb 9, 2018, at

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For those of you who decide to change carriers mid-year, demand Boat U.S. return 100% of the unearned premium because of the failure to disclose the change in settlement provisions by comparison to the old CNA policy.  You don't want them to hit you with a "short rate penalty" which would

Re: Stus-List Sail Changeover for 29 Mk1

I think the biggest bang for the buck is a full roach main. Shortly after buying the boat, I got mad at the boom and bought a new extrusion from Charleston, they sell in 2 foot increments. I was telling a friend (who also had a 39, and was an NA Intern at C in the early 70’s) what I was doing,

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Photo would not load, but if it didn't look great Fred wouldn't have shared it! Virus-free. www.avg.com

Stus-List Fwd: Good Old Boat February 2018 Dogwatch News

Hello all, I think the linked article below BARIENT WINCH HACK would be of use to the list members. Ken H. BARIENT WINCH HACKby Joe Rosenfeld Many of us have Barient winches on our good old boats. If you’ve got them, you may have noticed that they aren’t what they once were. My late 80’s

Re: Stus-List Restarting Thread - Insurance

I agree with Joel.  The Agreed Value says that everyone's agreed as to the payment in the event of a total loss.  I'm looking at the declarations page from Boat U.S. right now, and it says nothing about depreciation in the case of repairs (for less than a total loss).  That is buried down

Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak

I had the same issueanyone know how to get the photo operational? Thanks Richard s/v Bushm ark4; 1985 C 37 CB; Ohio River Richard N. Bush 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 502-584-7255 -Original Message- From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List

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Fred .. wow..a job well doneSomething can shoot for.Jim schwartz  Original message From: Frederick G Street via CnC-List Date: 2/9/18 12:06 PM (GMT-05:00) To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Frederick G Street Subject: Re: Stus-List

Stus-List Sail Changeover for 29 Mk1

We raced a 33 MKII extensivelyhad good sails...boat handled wellthen the owner got a new Doyle Pentax full roach mainhe didn't know he was getting a main with a big roach he didn't have originallythe sail maker, Brad from Doyle took it upon himself to do it, he knew we were

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I’ve resized the image (smaller) and re-posted; try it now: http://www.postaudio.net/webserver/IMG_1607.JPG — Fred Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( > On Feb 9, 2018, at 1:44 PM,

Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak / sanding between coats

This summer I discovered varnish in a spray can. I decided to try it on my grab rails. Two interesting differences from traditional varnish: - Subsequent coats can be applied without sanding if done within an hour or so. You don't wait for it to dry completely. - No brush marks Has anyone else

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"I did it because Dennis said so. :)" Amen, that's the very essence of this list! I love it... Richard s/v Bushmark4; 1985 C 37 CB: Ohio River Richard N. Bush 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 502-584-7255 -Original Message- From:

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My experience with AwlWood so far has been good, as well. I have some small repairs to do to the forward handrails this spring, so will be able to report back on that process; but after a couple of seasons, the handrails and Dorade boxes look like they did when they left my garage after

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Dennis — I did NOT do any sanding after the initial wood preparation; nothing between coats. The first coat of AwlWood is a colored or clear primer coat; apply with a rag, and let dry for twenty-four hours. The finish coats go on well with disposable foam brushes; thin coats, with a redcoat

Re: Stus-List Restarting Thread - Insurance: SHAME on Boat U.S./Geico!

I had a toolbox full of snap-on tools stolen and Allstate tried to depreciate them. I argued that there could never be any depreciation on Snap-On tools because they had an unlimited lifetime exchange guarantee. I had presented Snap-on with screw drivers broken into 3 pieces and they handed me

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Dave, You're not an unwanted guest. I actually agree with your opinion to some degree. I was walking piers one day and saw a Pearson 365 that belonged to a local sailmaker. The varnished teak toe rails looked amazing. I asked him how many coats of varnish. Answer: 23. I varnished the teak

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Send Dennis money. Send Dennis money. (Let's see if this works again.) Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Feb 9, 2018 8:19 AM, "bushmark4--- via CnC-List" wrote: "I did it because Dennis said so. :)" Amen, that's the very essence of this list! I love

Re: Stus-List Restarting Thread - Insurance: SHAME on Boat U.S./Geico!

My GEICO policy has a deductible and this: We will pay the reasonable cost of repairs with depreciation applied to the repair or replacement of the following items: inflatable dinghies, paint and finishes protective covers, fabric or sails. Depreciation shall also apply to outdrive units,

Re: Stus-List Restarting Thread - Insurance: SHAME on Boat U.S./Geico!

So what about Progressive or Allstate? Do either one of them do the "depreciating" BS? I can see depreciating sails and exterior canvas, but things like a pedestal? It is cast aluminum and should last 500 years without issue if no one breaks it or steals it. Seems like a backdoor rate increase -

Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak

Consider me the unwanted guest at the party on this thread but I won’t use Cetol. A few reasons. Years ago I redid all the teak trim on my Mako 261. Fortunately the teak was just aged out. No prior coating that I could determine. I sanded to bright, applied base coats of light Cetol and then

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Careful, you’re shouldering into Stu’s territory… :^) — Fred Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( > On Feb 9, 2018, at 10:26 AM, Dennis C. via CnC-List > wrote: > > Send Dennis money. Send Dennis money. >

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To follow up on my earlier note, the Awlgrip product I used was Allwood MA J3890 Gloss, and the clear primer was J3809 (which adheres great to gel coat, by the way). As I reported previously, I read about the Allwood product in the comments section of Practical Sailor. As I recall, the writer

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Dennis, I know. I should have displayed my sarcasm emoji…. ;-) Anyway, I think y’all are doin' it wrong. To keep that beautiful clear gloss varnish on your woodwork you just need to spend $7,500.00 on a shed to stick your boats in for quite a few (many) sailing seasons. See? Sarcasm! ;-)

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I did it because Dennis said so. :) Cheers, Randy > On Feb 9, 2018, at 7:10 AM, David via CnC-List wrote: > > So those using Cetol and putting gloss as the last two coats. Is that for > looks? Hardness? Both? > > Thanks in advance. > > David F. Risch > (401)

Re: Stus-List Restarting Thread - Insurance: SHAME on Boat U.S./Geico!

Hi, Have been monitoring this thread from the Canadian north. A pattern to consider in relation to depreciation is, considering the hurricanes, storms, frequency, numbers, and perhaps where people store their boats for the winter (mainland or other). It comes to mind the insurers are also

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I should add that I also refinished my dorade boxes and the cockpit seats with the same Allwood products, and they are beautiful and holding up well. One significant difference is that I refinished these items in a better-controlled environment (my basement over the winter). Undoubtedly human

Re: Stus-List Restarting Thread - Insurance

Isn’t one of the options the so called “agreed value” insurance? This is what I am using for over 10 years (both for the previous boat and this one). This way, the value does not depreciate over time. You agree on the value (in fact you call it, but they adjust the premium) and that’s it. Any

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Agreed value is for the entire boat. I am not sure that helps with dismasting or other non-total loses. Joe Della Barba Coquina From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List Sent: Friday, February 09, 2018 12:09 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com

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The combination Dennis suggested, Cetol® Marine Natural Teak ( *not* Cetol® Marine or Cetol® Marine Light ), topped with Cetol® Marine Gloss does look very good. I've never been fond of the colour ( or look ) of Cetol® Marine or Cetol® Marine Light. The Cetol® Marine Natural Teak does look very

Re: Stus-List Restarting Thread - Insurance: SHAME on Boat U.S./Geico!

Yup...apparently BoatUS lost their shirt after the last round of hurricanes...boats over-insured etc. David F. Risch (401) 419-4650 (cell) From: CnC-List on behalf of John Christopher via CnC-List Sent:

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You could very well be right (being in Canada) for the last 10 years, but let’s keep an eye on what the fine print says on renewal forms as a trend. /J > On Feb 9, 2018, at 12:09 PM, Marek Dziedzic wrote: > > Isn’t one of the options the so called “agreed value”

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Thanks for the feedack on Awlwood everybody. My Cetol is in good conditionfor now. I've said in previous posts that I would definitely be amenable to switching to Awlwood. Cetol has been around for many years now. I'm guessing that the folks at Awlgrip have figured out how to produce a

Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak

Dennis, Haven’t reviewed the instructions recently but I am fairly certain that you’ll need to get to clean, bare wood if you use the Primer. There seems to be cases of overcoating other products but I didn’t see Cetol mentioned.

Re: Stus-List Restarting Thread - Insurance

This is the wording for our policy's section on Partial Loss: 2) Partial Loss If the watercraft sustains partial damage from a covered loss we will pay the reasonable cost to repair, in accordance with customary repair practices, or replace, whichever is less, with like kind and quality without

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I can pitch in on Agreed value in a dis-masting. Auto Owners wrote a check for the Agreed value once the repair quote came in at 1.5 times Agreed value.  No depreciation, no haggles.  They even gave me the option of them disposing the hull for salvage or leaving it to me.  I convinced Torresen

Re: Stus-List Sail Changeover for 29 Mk1

Same here, Bill I had UK build a gold tape drive main with the most roach that the boat's rig can stand.The local PHRF committee nicked me 6 secs, but this sail more than made up for the lost time. We have a Tides Marine strong track on the mast so in light light air we just drop the main about a

Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak / sanding between coats

This may be the problem I encountered. The guy in Australia probably doesn’t have large temperature swings like we do on the Great Lakes. From: Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List Sent: Friday, February 09, 2018 2:26 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Bruce Whitmore Subject: Re: Stus-List Exterior

Re: Stus-List Sail Changeover for 29 Mk1

Bill’s cheater main is definitely roachy (just kidding, Bill). From: Bill Coleman via CnC-List Sent: Friday, February 09, 2018 2:21 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Bill Coleman Subject: Re: Stus-List Sail Changeover for 29 Mk1 I think the biggest bang for the buck is a full roach main.

Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak

That would be my guess, also. If I ever "lose" the Cetol, I'm definitely going to consider stripping the Cetol and switching to Awlwood with proper prep, of course. Knock on wood (LOL), the Cetol will last a few more years. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Feb 9, 2018 2:42 PM,

Stus-List Whisker pole chock mast mount

Ok Guys, I've been test fitting the whisker pole and track extensions to the mast while it is pulled. I need an extra section of track to get the inboard end of the pole high enough so that I can stow the pole on the mast. I'm pretty much all set but I'm down to the chock which will hold the

Stus-List C 37+ window replacement

Hi All, I'm in discussion with the yard to replace the fixed windows on my 37/40+ this spring. They barely leak, but there are vertical splits on both sides of the forward windows and in big downpours do leak. I currently have blue tape on them to stop the leaks when I'm not around. I want

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The following words should NEVER appear in the subject of a reply: *Stus-List CnC-List Digest* Everyone on the list thanks you! On 2/9/2018 7:24 PM, John Christopher via CnC-List wrote: How do you remove Cetol? Do you use a heat gun? If so what about the gel coat? Do you sand it off? I’m

Re: Stus-List Whisker pole chock mast mount

Tape a piece of 60 grit sandpaper to the mast. Rub a piece of teak, Starboard, UHMW or whatever up and down until it conforms to the mast. 2-3 beer job. Builds biceps. Better to hoist more beers. Dennis C. On Feb 9, 2018 5:20 PM, "Josh Muckley via CnC-List" wrote: >

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How do you remove Cetol? Do you use a heat gun? If so what about the gel coat? Do you sand it off? I’m considering doing the toerails on my LF 38. /J > On Feb 9, 2018, at 7:04 PM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote: > > Send CnC-List mailing list submissions to >cnc-list@cnc-list.com >

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New, but worth investigating: http://www.pettitpaint.com/products/varnish-wood-finishes/exterior-varnish/seagold/ Bill Bina On 2/9/2018 7:03 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List wrote: That would be my guess, also.  If I ever "lose" the Cetol, I'm definitely going to consider stripping the Cetol and

Re: Stus-List Whisker pole chock mast mount

Or use a contour gauge and trace the shape. Then cut it to shape On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 9:18 PM Dennis C. via CnC-List wrote: > Tape a piece of 60 grit sandpaper to the mast. Rub a piece of teak, > Starboard, UHMW or whatever up and down until it conforms to the mast.

Stus-List Removing Cetol

How do you remove Cetol? Do you use a heat gun? If so what about the gel coat? Do you sand it off? I’m considering doing the toerails on my LF 38. Yep. Heat gun and a good scraper, preferably a two handed one. Sanding also works but may be damaging to the wood. Dennis C.

Stus-List hisker pole chock mast mount

I put on my wish list as a possible stationary end to mount our whisker on the mast. https://www.fisheriessupply.com/ronstan-spinnaker-pole-mast-eye-ring-3-1-8in-dia-rf41 But I need to do a template of the mast to make sure it will fit Tom Buscaglia S/V Alera 1990 C 37+/40 Vashon WA P

Re: Stus-List Whisker pole chock mast mount

I'm on board with your thoughts Dennis and Joel. Some complications are that the depth of the concave curvature to accommodate the mast is 1-5/8ths which is a lot of sanding. Furthermore the maximum available thickness for starboard is 1" so some sort of stacking will be needed. Thanks for the

Re: Stus-List hisker pole chock mast mount

Tom, That product might eliminate the challenges I'm facing but it doesn't look like it has enough stand off to accommodate the pole thickness. I'm trying to use the forespar deck chock. http://www.forespar.com/product189.html I'm afraid that the " manufacturer recommended" mast chock isn't

Re: Stus-List Restarting Thread - Insurance: SHAME on Boat U.S./Geico!

Have made inquiry to our agent on this point - will advise. Seems a good idea for all of us to do check on this John and Maryann Legacy III 1982 C 34 Noank, CT From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Randy Stafford via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, February 08,

Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak (John and Maryann Read)

John and Maryann, We love here as well and the previous owners were very helpful. They are great people. We are at Thames Yacht Club during the summer and still up at Midway in the winter. Brien Sadler S/V TAZ 1987 C 35-3 ___ Thanks everyone for

Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak

So those using Cetol and putting gloss as the last two coats. Is that for looks? Hardness? Both? Thanks in advance. David F. Risch (401) 419-4650 (cell) From: CnC-List on behalf of Dennis C. via CnC-List