[CGUYS] HELP..................................John Roschella
Hello I'm sorry I didn't tell you about my trip ... I'm currently in London,England on a short vacation as I write this ... what happened today is unbelievable,and now I am stuck here.I got mugged at gun point on my way to the hotel and my money,credit cards, phone and other valuables were stolen.I've been to the embassy and the Police here but they're not helping issues at all,they asked us to wait for 3weeks but we can't wait till then. Thank God they did not take my passport.I urgently need your help.I just need 2000$ dollars USD to sort out my hotel bills but i'll appreciate whatsoever you can afford,I promise to pay you back once I get home.The hotel manager won't let us leave until we settle the hotel bills.Am so freaked out at the moment. I do have cash in my account,but I can't access it right now because I had to cancel all my credit cards that were stolen!!I'm sending this from a free internet connection at the public library. I will forever be grateful if you can help me.Please respond quickly, as my flight leaves in a few hours and I need to pay my hotel bill.Please save me from the embarrassment of not being able to cover the charges. Thanks John Roschella *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
Re: [CGUYS] HELP..................................John Roschella
This is spam - don't reply to him. Mike On 2/15/2011 7:13 AM, John Roschella wrote: Hello I'm sorry I didn't tell you about my trip ... I'm currently in London,England John Roschella *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
Re: [CGUYS] EXT :Re: [CGUYS] HELP..................................John Roschella
Ya think, Mike? What clued you in - no real way to contact him - not even the name of the hotel? The foreign representation of money? The fact that list members do not mention trips unless they have tech-related questions? That spam appears to be quite old and made me LOL. Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- This is spam - don't reply to him. Mike On 2/15/2011 7:13 AM, John Roschella wrote: Hello I'm sorry I didn't tell you about my trip ... I'm currently in London,England John Roschella *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *** *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
Re: [CGUYS] EXT :Re: [CGUYS] HELP..................................John Roschella
They seem to go in cycles. A friend of mine sent me a similar one that she had gotten from a former pastors wife who left under less than honorable conditions, and she forwarded it to the Sheriff. She was that suspicious. Stewart At 08:14 AM 2/15/2011, you wrote: Ya think, Mike? What clued you in - no real way to contact him - not even the name of the hotel? The foreign representation of money? The fact that list members do not mention trips unless they have tech-related questions? That spam appears to be quite old and made me LOL. Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- This is spam - don't reply to him. Mike On 2/15/2011 7:13 AM, John Roschella wrote: Hello I'm sorry I didn't tell you about my trip ... I'm currently in London,England John Roschella *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
Re: [CGUYS] EXT :Re: [CGUYS] HELP..................................John Roschella
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 6:05 PM, Stewart Marshall revsamarsh...@earthlink.net wrote: They seem to go in cycles. A friend of mine sent me a similar one that she had gotten from a former pastors wife who left under less than honorable conditions, and she forwarded it to the Sheriff. She was that suspicious. Why would anyone respond to an e-mail from someone that they do not know, have no idea who the sender is, and especially since the e-mail suggests familiarity where none exists? Steve *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
Re: [CGUYS] EXT :Re: [CGUYS] HELP..................................John Roschella
Oh this was an email from someone she knew for about 10 years. She left when her husband took a call in another locality last Summer. She was not about to send her money and thought it was the real person who she has tangled with before because of financial problems. The one sent to this list was unusual as it sent it to an email list, not an individual. If I understand it correctly, this is done by someone or something that hacks yahoo accounts and then uses their address books within Yahoo to send out these missives. I got two last year. One from a member of this or another similar list and then one from a church list I manage. These were individuals who I have known and have communicated with. The first one I was sorry for their problem but was not about to send money. The second one i had just seen an email from on the list a day or two before and they had not mentioned traveling. (and this person does a bit of it.) So I was suspicious right off. He then wrote me as manager of the list that his Yahoo account had problems. When my friend forwarded this one to me, I knew right off that it was a scam. Stewart At 08:05 PM 2/15/2011, you wrote: On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 6:05 PM, Stewart Marshall revsamarsh...@earthlink.net wrote: They seem to go in cycles. A friend of mine sent me a similar one that she had gotten from a former pastors wife who left under less than honorable conditions, and she forwarded it to the Sheriff. She was that suspicious. Why would anyone respond to an e-mail from someone that they do not know, have no idea who the sender is, and especially since the e-mail suggests familiarity where none exists? Steve *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *** *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
Re: [CGUYS] EXT :Re: [CGUYS] HELP..................................John Roschella
One of these Stranded Traveller messages got posted to another computer email list I subscribe to, last year. The message was specifically written to appeal to the kind of person on the email list (women, in IT, many of them young.) At the time, I pointed out that the lack of specific information made the Stranded Traveller's appeal VERY suspicious, and suggested that if anyone on the list really wanted to help the Stranded Traveller, they should offer advice to her (such as, contact the U.S. consulate or embassy). AFAIK, no one sent money. I think they would have sent funds, if the appeal had been genuine; because people really do feel obliged to help when someone is in trouble. Helpfulness is just as much a part of human nature as the impulse to defraud. --Constance On Feb 15, 2011, at 9:19 PM, Stewart Marshall wrote: Oh this was an email from someone she knew for about 10 years. She left when her husband took a call in another locality last Summer. She was not about to send her money and thought it was the real person who she has tangled with before because of financial problems. The one sent to this list was unusual as it sent it to an email list, not an individual. If I understand it correctly, this is done by someone or something that hacks yahoo accounts and then uses their address books within Yahoo to send out these missives. I got two last year. One from a member of this or another similar list and then one from a church list I manage. These were individuals who I have known and have communicated with. The first one I was sorry for their problem but was not about to send money. The second one i had just seen an email from on the list a day or two before and they had not mentioned traveling. (and this person does a bit of it.) So I was suspicious right off. He then wrote me as manager of the list that his Yahoo account had problems. When my friend forwarded this one to me, I knew right off that it was a scam. Stewart At 08:05 PM 2/15/2011, you wrote: On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 6:05 PM, Stewart Marshall revsamarsh...@earthlink.net wrote: They seem to go in cycles. A friend of mine sent me a similar one that she had gotten from a former pastors wife who left under less than honorable conditions, and she forwarded it to the Sheriff. She was that suspicious. Why would anyone respond to an e-mail from someone that they do not know, have no idea who the sender is, and especially since the e-mail suggests familiarity where none exists? Steve *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *** *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *** *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
Re: [CGUYS] EXT :Re: [CGUYS] HELP..................................John Roschella
Yup and as part of my profession I have helped more folks who probably should not have been helped than you can count over the years. Stewart At 08:35 PM 2/15/2011, you wrote: One of these Stranded Traveller messages got posted to another computer email list I subscribe to, last year. The message was specifically written to appeal to the kind of person on the email list (women, in IT, many of them young.) At the time, I pointed out that the lack of specific information made the Stranded Traveller's appeal VERY suspicious, and suggested that if anyone on the list really wanted to help the Stranded Traveller, they should offer advice to her (such as, contact the U.S. consulate or embassy). AFAIK, no one sent money. I think they would have sent funds, if the appeal had been genuine; because people really do feel obliged to help when someone is in trouble. Helpfulness is just as much a part of human nature as the impulse to defraud. *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
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My friends Guess what happened. When I needed my computer the most it froze on me. Then, when I tried to start it I got this continuing beeping without stopping. I put it off and after a few seconds it would start again alone with the beeps.I had to keep pressing the off button for while for it stay quiet. Waited for a few minutes, tried to start it the same thing What do I do? Many thanks Marcio * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Beeps indicate a hardware problem. Google your motherboard manual and the beep codes so you can interpret them. Or call the manufacturer for support. On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 9:18 PM, Marcio m...@ix.netcom.com wrote: My friends Guess what happened. When I needed my computer the most it froze on me. Then, when I tried to start it I got this continuing beeping without stopping. I put it off and after a few seconds it would start again alone with the beeps.I had to keep pressing the off button for while for it stay quiet. Waited for a few minutes, tried to start it the same thing What do I do? Many thanks Marcio * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * -- John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Thank you... This is what I did: first changed the electrical outlet to make sure the computer was receiving proper current. Nothing changed. Then I opened the computer to see if any fans had stopped working, especially the CPU. They were working. Then I went to the memory slots and pushed the memories down again to their places... Guess what? Started working again. This is what I called strike of luck...on a Sunday evening when tomorrow I will need the computer where I have all my appointments, etc... Going to sleep... Marcio -Original Message- From: John DeCarlo johndeca...@gmail.com Sent: Jun 13, 2010 9:56 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Help Beeps indicate a hardware problem. Google your motherboard manual and the beep codes so you can interpret them. Or call the manufacturer for support. On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 9:18 PM, Marcio m...@ix.netcom.com wrote: My friends Guess what happened. When I needed my computer the most it froze on me. Then, when I tried to start it I got this continuing beeping without stopping. I put it off and after a few seconds it would start again alone with the beeps.I had to keep pressing the off button for while for it stay quiet. Waited for a few minutes, tried to start it the same thing What do I do? Many thanks Marcio * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * -- John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Help - computer seems infected, going crazy!
Quoting Ranbo ran...@gmail.com: *In other words, this virus, trojan or whatever it is could still be lurking and hiding from AVG's ability to detect it? I also ran a full scan of Well, I'm no expert (I don't even play one on TV), but no one on the list called me an idiot (at least. . .not on the list :-), so it can't be *that* bad advise. I'm just sayin', if it was me, just for the peace of mind, I'd go ahead and do the nasty. You gotta weigh the peace-of-mind vs. time-and-effort equation. Windows Defender which didn't find anything. Are you supposed to delete the infected files in the AVG vault or does it matter? Again, no expert, but. . . You plan on using them? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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On Mar 3, 2010, at 10:07 AM, Reid Katan wrote: I'm just sayin', if it was me, just for the peace of mind, I'd go ahead and do the nasty. You gotta weigh the peace-of-mind vs. time- and-effort equation. There is a utility for copying off your drivers. I find that all too often rebuilding Windows from scratch becomes a nightmare because you can't find all the necessary drivers or the current drivers don't work right with your hardware. Copy them to a USB drive and then virus scan the heck out of it before you use them. I can't remember the name of the utility. Anyone? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Help - computer seems infected, going crazy!
On Mar 3, 2010, at 9:23 AM, Ranbo wrote: *In other words, this virus, trojan or whatever it is could still be lurking and hiding from AVG's ability to detect it? I also ran a full scan of Windows Defender which didn't That is why I pointed you to a Linux boot disk. Otherwise you can't escape root kits, etc. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Yup defender is almost useless. Any Anti Virus may not get to Malware and other things that have hidden themselves deep within the OS. Avast used to have a feature that said Do you Want to Do a Scan on Boot Up This is the only way tog et rid of deep down infections such as Tom said by running a Boot Disk/CD with a Virus program Scanning your system. Catches a lot of crap we don't know is there. Stewart At 11:05 AM 3/3/2010, you wrote: *I hate to sound so obtuse, but are you suggesting that this infection is not being detected by AVG or Windows Defender? Randall * On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 10:57 AM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Mar 3, 2010, at 9:23 AM, Ranbo wrote: *In other words, this virus, trojan or whatever it is could still be lurking and hiding from AVG's ability to detect it? I also ran a full scan of Windows Defender which didn't That is why I pointed you to a Linux boot disk. Otherwise you can't escape root kits, etc. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Help - computer seems infected, going crazy!
*I hate to sound so obtuse, but are you suggesting that this infection is not being detected by AVG or Windows Defender? Randall * On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 10:57 AM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Mar 3, 2010, at 9:23 AM, Ranbo wrote: *In other words, this virus, trojan or whatever it is could still be lurking and hiding from AVG's ability to detect it? I also ran a full scan of Windows Defender which didn't That is why I pointed you to a Linux boot disk. Otherwise you can't escape root kits, etc. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Help - computer seems infected, going crazy!
*I can't get it to download from the link you give here. Went to BitDefender.com They want $30 for 2010 version. Is that the one you are suggesting or is there a free version? Thanks Randall * On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 4:18 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Feb 25, 2010, at 3:10 PM, Ranbo wrote: *Since today my Dell desktop is acting crazy. I tried this recently and think it is a good place to start. It creates a Linux boot disk loaded with tools. Since you are running a clean Linux system off the CD you can check your hard disk more thoroughly and hot have to worry about your tests being blocked by a powned OS. BitDefender Rescue CD With Auto Update Virus Definition Features http://www.techmixer.com/bitdefender-rescue-cd-with-auto-update-virus-definition-features/ BitDefender Rescue Disk , a bootable anti virus scanner that scan your computer for any virus. BitDefender Rescue Disk has ability to automatically update its virus definition which makes it more advance than other rescue disk CD utility. The update Anti Virus definition will be automatically trigger once the BitDefender rescue disk detected internet connection while boot up. Plus more, BitDefender security technology consists highly sensitive in detecting both known and unknown virus. This free BitDefender Rescue CD also bundles a lot of useful third party utilities such as ChkRootkit for scanning for rootkis, Nessus Network Scanner as remote network security scanner, Mozilla Firefox, Partition Image, GtkRecover and etc to improve productivity of rescue disk. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Help - computer seems infected, going crazy!
Email me off list I did download it. Stewart At 11:30 AM 3/3/2010, you wrote: *I can't get it to download from the link you give here. Went to BitDefender.com They want $30 for 2010 version. Is that the one you are suggesting or is there a free version? Thanks Randall * On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 4:18 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Feb 25, 2010, at 3:10 PM, Ranbo wrote: *Since today my Dell desktop is acting crazy. I tried this recently and think it is a good place to start. It creates a Linux boot disk loaded with tools. Since you are running a clean Linux system off the CD you can check your hard disk more thoroughly and hot have to worry about your tests being blocked by a powned OS. BitDefender Rescue CD With Auto Update Virus Definition Features http://www.techmixer.com/bitdefender-rescue-cd-with-auto-update-virus-definition-features/ BitDefender Rescue Disk , a bootable anti virus scanner that scan your computer for any virus. BitDefender Rescue Disk has ability to automatically update its virus definition which makes it more advance than other rescue disk CD utility. The update Anti Virus definition will be automatically trigger once the BitDefender rescue disk detected internet connection while boot up. Plus more, BitDefender security technology consists highly sensitive in detecting both known and unknown virus. This free BitDefender Rescue CD also bundles a lot of useful third party utilities such as ChkRootkit for scanning for rootkis, Nessus Network Scanner as remote network security scanner, Mozilla Firefox, Partition Image, GtkRecover and etc to improve productivity of rescue disk. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Help - computer seems infected, going crazy!
Yes. On Mar 3, 2010 12:20 PM, Ranbo ran...@gmail.com wrote: *I hate to sound so obtuse, but are you suggesting that this infection is not being detected by AVG or Windows Defender? Randall * On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 10:57 AM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Mar 3, 2010, at 9:23 AM, Ranbo wr... * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Help - computer seems infected, going crazy!
On Mar 3, 2010, at 12:30 PM, Ranbo wrote: *I can't get it to download from the link you give here. Went to BitDefender.com They want $30 for 2010 version. Is that the one you are suggesting or is there a free version? Not $30, this is free. The article is a bit dated, but gives a good explanation of how to use it. Google to find the current link. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Help - computer seems infected, going crazy!
*Brian, Thanks much for the advice. Before I do reformat and reload my operating system as you suggest, want to be sure I have to go through this. For past 3 days, computer suddenly seems to be working normally, except maybe that I couldn't launch a new anti-malware program (run error) suggested here. Otherwise, things seem to be okay. AVG does report that on 2/26 and 2/27 Trojan horse Generic 16BZFO was found and also the virus vault contains 2 or 3 warnings around that time that a registry key with reference to an infected file was found. There was one other reported infection from a scan back in mid December. Since Feb 27 the daily automatic scans and 2 I did manually report no infections. Does this mean that AVG has found and contained the virus? On 2/26 and 2/27 AVG scan was interrupted before completed and there is a note that the log was corrupted one of those days and an earlier day. The scans since then have been completed according to the log BTW, is it important to delete the viruses in the AVG virus vault? Finally, what are the most likely ways to get this sort of virus, if that's what it is? I do have a back up drive. Thanks Randall * On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 6:50 PM, Brian Jones uwhar...@carolina.rr.comwrote: Well Rambo, I saw this one on a customers computer last week. It's a tenacious sucker, and yes, it seems to wait a bit before launching after booting in the morning. It traps most operating system calls preventing you from running diagnostic software or restoring your registry to an earlier date. There is good news and bad news... the bad first. You will need to reformat and reload your operating system. The good news: this virus will block all attempts at removal, but it will not interfere with your copying of your important files to a USB drive so: Copy your important files to a backup drive, Look in your owners manual for the sequence to restore your operating system. Go to Windows Update in the Accessories menu (repeatedly) to get your opsys up-to-date. Reload all your favorite programs and files. If you have a Dell, HP, or Compaq, you must hold down an F-key (see owners manual) while booting to discover the hidden partition with your operating system restore files. Older computers will have a disc that came in the box that has the OpSys restore on it. For a few years, computers were delivered without a restore disc, and asked you to make your own (which very few people actually did). For this reason, you can contact the manufacturer and get a restore disc for anywhere from free to $30, depending on the company. There are a few off-brands that don't have a support site, but you can go to special merchants that collect restore disc's and will sell you a set for about $30. Of course, the easiest solution is to drop you machine at a local computer store /repair shop and let them do it.. costs around $100 to $150. Hope this helps! If you give the brand name and model, maybe we can help you find the key-sequence or source disc. Good Luck! - Brian Ranbo wrote: *Since today my Dell desktop is acting crazy. Keeps popping up with messages (every few seconds) that my computer is infected, when I try to run programs it says they are infected, and can't access AVG (says that is affected), can't find Zone Alarm, and several times has brought up an alleged antivirus program called Soft antivirus which starts scanning my files. Actually, not sure if it is really scanning my files or this is their demonstration. At bottom of screen it is trying to get me to buy this program to disinfect the computer. I don't recall ever having installed this software and can't even find it listed. Can't even go to add or remove hardware. When I'm not on the computer for awhile I notice that it is bringing up webpages (fake pages?) for porn sites, VIagra and other similar stuff. I have no idea what to do to try to remedy this. I'm running Windows XP. Any suggestions would be appreciated. I can connect to the internet and use email, so long as about every 5 seconds I say no to the pop-ups that say my computer is at risk or infiltrated or bring up these websites (using IE, while I am only using FireFox). I keep stopping the scan this new antivirus program seems to be running because I am afraid it itself is a virus, maybe part of a scam to infect the computer in order to get me to buy the software to disinfect it! Help! And thanks * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy,
Re: [CGUYS] Help - computer seems infected, going crazy!
Quoting Ranbo ran...@gmail.com: Thanks much for the advice. Before I do reformat and reload my operating system as you suggest, want to be sure I have to go through this. For past 3 days, computer suddenly seems to be working normally, except maybe that I couldn't launch a new anti-malware program (run error) suggested here. Otherwise, things seem to be okay. I would do it just for the peace of mind. You don't know that you don't have a keystroke logger or some other thing running silently in the background. Try another anti-malware program. Try re-downloading (on a known good computer) the one that gave you the error and running it again. Try an (some) online scan(s). But hey, that's just me. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Help - computer seems infected, going crazy!
Well Rambo, I saw this one on a customers computer last week. It's a tenacious sucker, and yes, it seems to wait a bit before launching after booting in the morning. It traps most operating system calls preventing you from running diagnostic software or restoring your registry to an earlier date. There is good news and bad news... the bad first. You will need to reformat and reload your operating system. The good news: this virus will block all attempts at removal, but it will not interfere with your copying of your important files to a USB drive so: Copy your important files to a backup drive, Look in your owners manual for the sequence to restore your operating system. Go to Windows Update in the Accessories menu (repeatedly) to get your opsys up-to-date. Reload all your favorite programs and files. If you have a Dell, HP, or Compaq, you must hold down an F-key (see owners manual) while booting to discover the hidden partition with your operating system restore files. Older computers will have a disc that came in the box that has the OpSys restore on it. For a few years, computers were delivered without a restore disc, and asked you to make your own (which very few people actually did). For this reason, you can contact the manufacturer and get a restore disc for anywhere from free to $30, depending on the company. There are a few off-brands that don't have a support site, but you can go to special merchants that collect restore disc's and will sell you a set for about $30. Of course, the easiest solution is to drop you machine at a local computer store /repair shop and let them do it.. costs around $100 to $150. Hope this helps! If you give the brand name and model, maybe we can help you find the key-sequence or source disc. Good Luck! - Brian Ranbo wrote: *Since today my Dell desktop is acting crazy. Keeps popping up with messages (every few seconds) that my computer is infected, when I try to run programs it says they are infected, and can't access AVG (says that is affected), can't find Zone Alarm, and several times has brought up an alleged antivirus program called Soft antivirus which starts scanning my files. Actually, not sure if it is really scanning my files or this is their demonstration. At bottom of screen it is trying to get me to buy this program to disinfect the computer. I don't recall ever having installed this software and can't even find it listed. Can't even go to add or remove hardware. When I'm not on the computer for awhile I notice that it is bringing up webpages (fake pages?) for porn sites, VIagra and other similar stuff. I have no idea what to do to try to remedy this. I'm running Windows XP. Any suggestions would be appreciated. I can connect to the internet and use email, so long as about every 5 seconds I say no to the pop-ups that say my computer is at risk or infiltrated or bring up these websites (using IE, while I am only using FireFox). I keep stopping the scan this new antivirus program seems to be running because I am afraid it itself is a virus, maybe part of a scam to infect the computer in order to get me to buy the software to disinfect it! Help! And thanks * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Help - computer seems infected, going crazy!
This d...@#$d virus or trojan has been around for a while. This thing disguises itself as a Windows Firewall and even puts a pseudo Microsoft shield in the notification area. It takes over completely and won't let system restore run properly. I have had to do complete Windows reinstalls on several friends' computers. It hit mine, but I caught it in time and was able to do a system restore. I have not tried Bit Defender; if you can get it from another computer, try that first and you may not have to do the complete reinstall. I would strongly suggest trying to backup any irreplaceable files (photos, etc). * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Help - computer seems infected, going crazy!
*Very strange, so far, since turning computer on today (has now been on for about 10 minutes) having none of the problems from yesterday. How does this virus or trojan get around antivirus software and firewalls? Do you usually get it by visiting certain sites? if I need this, will reinstalling Windows take care of this problem? Is that easy to do? Maybe now I can launch Bitdefender. Thanks Randall * On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 7:13 AM, David D Odell waffenf...@atlanticbb.netwrote: This d...@#$d virus or trojan has been around for a while. This thing disguises itself as a Windows Firewall and even puts a pseudo Microsoft shield in the notification area. It takes over completely and won't let system restore run properly. I have had to do complete Windows reinstalls on several friends' computers. It hit mine, but I caught it in time and was able to do a system restore. I have not tried Bit Defender; if you can get it from another computer, try that first and you may not have to do the complete reinstall. I would strongly suggest trying to backup any irreplaceable files (photos, etc). * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Help - computer seems infected, going crazy!
It does it by getting you to click what you think are clean sites. Some sites get taken over by a Trojan very easily. Then when you think you are telling them no thanks on a pop up it catches you. They are very subtle and sneaky. This is a extortion attempt usually wanting you to buy their program to get rid of their Trojan. Stewart At 08:41 AM 2/26/2010, you wrote: *Very strange, so far, since turning computer on today (has now been on for about 10 minutes) having none of the problems from yesterday. How does this virus or trojan get around antivirus software and firewalls? Do you usually get it by visiting certain sites? if I need this, will reinstalling Windows take care of this problem? Is that easy to do? Maybe now I can launch Bitdefender. Thanks Randall Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Help - computer seems infected, going crazy!
Yes, this is one of the nastiest ones out there. They come by many names and take a crowbar and blowtorch to remove. This is one of the reasons you keep good backups. XP wasn't as easy, but now running 7 I can reinstall a new OS in about 20 minutes...have most my programs I use installed in less than an hour. I keep an external drive with all my cd images I might want to install, I keep all my installers I've downloaded also on this drive along with any serials I have to enter. My mail is in the cloud, no backup needed...I keep my bookmarks synced with a firefox extension. I've refined my install process to using a USB thumb drive also..much faster than dvd. Yes it's a PITA to have to plan like this but like it or not this is windows, plan accordingly and it's no big deal. On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 8:28 AM, Rev. Stewart Marshall popoz...@earthlink.net wrote: It does it by getting you to click what you think are clean sites. Some sites get taken over by a Trojan very easily. Then when you think you are telling them no thanks on a pop up it catches you. They are very subtle and sneaky. This is a extortion attempt usually wanting you to buy their program to get rid of their Trojan. Stewart At 08:41 AM 2/26/2010, you wrote: *Very strange, so far, since turning computer on today (has now been on for about 10 minutes) having none of the problems from yesterday. How does this virus or trojan get around antivirus software and firewalls? Do you usually get it by visiting certain sites? if I need this, will reinstalling Windows take care of this problem? Is that easy to do? Maybe now I can launch Bitdefender. Thanks Randall Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Help - computer seems infected, going crazy!
*Why would it suddenly seem to be working okay? Should I assume that the virus is still lurking and try to get rid of it? Can they go dormant and reappear later?? So far, so good today, for entire morning. Randall * On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 10:51 AM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, this is one of the nastiest ones out there. They come by many names and take a crowbar and blowtorch to remove. This is one of the reasons you keep good backups. XP wasn't as easy, but now running 7 I can reinstall a new OS in about 20 minutes...have most my programs I use installed in less than an hour. I keep an external drive with all my cd images I might want to install, I keep all my installers I've downloaded also on this drive along with any serials I have to enter. My mail is in the cloud, no backup needed...I keep my bookmarks synced with a firefox extension. I've refined my install process to using a USB thumb drive also..much faster than dvd. Yes it's a PITA to have to plan like this but like it or not this is windows, plan accordingly and it's no big deal. On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 8:28 AM, Rev. Stewart Marshall popoz...@earthlink.net wrote: It does it by getting you to click what you think are clean sites. Some sites get taken over by a Trojan very easily. Then when you think you are telling them no thanks on a pop up it catches you. They are very subtle and sneaky. This is a extortion attempt usually wanting you to buy their program to get rid of their Trojan. Stewart At 08:41 AM 2/26/2010, you wrote: *Very strange, so far, since turning computer on today (has now been on for about 10 minutes) having none of the problems from yesterday. How does this virus or trojan get around antivirus software and firewalls? Do you usually get it by visiting certain sites? if I need this, will reinstalling Windows take care of this problem? Is that easy to do? Maybe now I can launch Bitdefender. Thanks Randall Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Help - computer seems infected, going crazy!
Different things can trigger them, you are not clean until you know you are clean. Throw the book at it and see what reaction you get. Stewart At 10:33 AM 2/26/2010, you wrote: *Why would it suddenly seem to be working okay? Should I assume that the virus is still lurking and try to get rid of it? Can they go dormant and reappear later?? So far, so good today, for entire morning. Randall Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Help - computer seems infected, going crazy!
Yes, this is why I usually recommend formatting and installing the OS clean once any compromise takes place. I mean, who wants that nagging feeling that everything you type is being sent to east europeans? Of course, as has already been pointed out, this presupposes that you have a good backup strategy in place. But then if you don't, you're only screwing yourself, it's only a matter of when. On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 11:33 AM, Ranbo ran...@gmail.com wrote: *Why would it suddenly seem to be working okay? Should I assume that the virus is still lurking and try to get rid of it? Can they go dormant and reappear later?? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Help - computer seems infected, going crazy!
I usta hafta reinstall xp a few times a year ...now after dumping that silly Norton and starting to use Avast FREE version I have no longer had any trouble for a long time... -Original Message- From: David D Odell [mailto:waffenf...@atlanticbb.net] Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 7:14 AM Subject: Re: Help - computer seems infected, going crazy! This d...@#$d virus or trojan has been around for a while. This thing disguises itself as a Windows Firewall and even puts a pseudo Microsoft shield in the notification area. It takes over completely and won't let system restore run properly. I have had to do complete Windows reinstalls on several friends' computers. It hit mine, but I caught it in time and was able to do a system restore. I have not tried Bit Defender; if you can get it from another computer, try that first and you may not have to do the complete reinstall. I would strongly suggest trying to backup any irreplaceable files (photos, etc). * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Help - computer seems infected, going crazy!
On Feb 26, 2010, at 9:41 AM, Ranbo wrote: if I need this, will reinstalling Windows take care of this problem? Is that easy to do? Maybe now I can launch Bitdefender. The problem with reinstalling Windows is that you probably do not have all the drivers you need and when you track down current versions of the drivers you may find that they don't work all that well with your older hardware. Even people who regularly back up their data do not think to make backups of all their current drivers. Note that you don't launch Bit Defender, you boot from the Bit Defender CD. It will run Linux on your PC and then launch Bit Defender from there. This will examine your hard drive using a system you can trust is clean. Yours obviously is not. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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On Feb 25, 2010, at 9:25 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: It is very possible you will need to download the programs you need, on another computer, and run them in safe mode to clean it up. Definitely, an advanced virus will be watching and blocking your attempts to attack it. It has become and common way to test for infection by trying to access the major anti-virus sites. If you can't get there you know you are pwned. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Help - computer seems infected, going crazy!
*Since today my Dell desktop is acting crazy. Keeps popping up with messages (every few seconds) that my computer is infected, when I try to run programs it says they are infected, and can't access AVG (says that is affected), can't find Zone Alarm, and several times has brought up an alleged antivirus program called Soft antivirus which starts scanning my files. Actually, not sure if it is really scanning my files or this is their demonstration. At bottom of screen it is trying to get me to buy this program to disinfect the computer. I don't recall ever having installed this software and can't even find it listed. Can't even go to add or remove hardware. When I'm not on the computer for awhile I notice that it is bringing up webpages (fake pages?) for porn sites, VIagra and other similar stuff. I have no idea what to do to try to remedy this. I'm running Windows XP. Any suggestions would be appreciated. I can connect to the internet and use email, so long as about every 5 seconds I say no to the pop-ups that say my computer is at risk or infiltrated or bring up these websites (using IE, while I am only using FireFox). I keep stopping the scan this new antivirus program seems to be running because I am afraid it itself is a virus, maybe part of a scam to infect the computer in order to get me to buy the software to disinfect it! Help! And thanks Randall * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Help - computer seems infected, going crazy!
You haven't given us much to go on. Like a name or something. If you can run them, try an online virus scan. http://www.google.com/search?q=free+online+virus+scan . Once you have a name you should be able to google removal techniques. And no, whatever you do, don't install anything else from this company! On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 3:10 PM, Ranbo ran...@gmail.com wrote: *Since today my Dell desktop is acting crazy. Keeps popping up with messages (every few seconds) that my computer is infected, when I try to run programs it says they are infected, and can't access AVG (says that is affected), can't find Zone Alarm, and several times has brought up an alleged antivirus program called Soft antivirus which starts scanning my files. Actually, not sure if it is really scanning my files or this is their demonstration. At bottom of screen it is trying to get me to buy this program to disinfect the computer. I don't recall ever having installed this software and can't even find it listed. Can't even go to add or remove hardware. When I'm not on the computer for awhile I notice that it is bringing up webpages (fake pages?) for porn sites, VIagra and other similar stuff. I have no idea what to do to try to remedy this. I'm running Windows XP. Any suggestions would be appreciated. I can connect to the internet and use email, so long as about every 5 seconds I say no to the pop-ups that say my computer is at risk or infiltrated or bring up these websites (using IE, while I am only using FireFox). I keep stopping the scan this new antivirus program seems to be running because I am afraid it itself is a virus, maybe part of a scam to infect the computer in order to get me to buy the software to disinfect it! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Help - computer seems infected, going crazy!
The other day John Gilroy on WAMU's Computer Guys (and Gal) radio show recommended a program called Revo to clean up a machine infected with what sounds like the same malware on your machine: http://www.revouninstaller.com/ It is able to hunt down the hidden files which enable the malware to resurrect itself after it has ostensibly been removed by more conventional methods. Link to show: http://thekojonnamdishow.org/shows/2010-02-02/computer-guys-gal I can connect to the internet and use email, so long as about every 5 seconds I say no to the pop-ups that say my computer is at risk or infiltrated or bring up these websites (using IE, while I am only using FireFox). I keep stopping the scan this new antivirus program seems to be running because I am afraid it itself is a virus, maybe part of a scam to infect the computer in order to get me to buy the software to disinfect it! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Help - computer seems infected, going crazy!
On Feb 25, 2010, at 3:10 PM, Ranbo wrote: *Since today my Dell desktop is acting crazy. I tried this recently and think it is a good place to start. It creates a Linux boot disk loaded with tools. Since you are running a clean Linux system off the CD you can check your hard disk more thoroughly and hot have to worry about your tests being blocked by a powned OS. BitDefender Rescue CD With Auto Update Virus Definition Features http://www.techmixer.com/bitdefender-rescue-cd-with-auto-update-virus-definition-features/ BitDefender Rescue Disk , a bootable anti virus scanner that scan your computer for any virus. BitDefender Rescue Disk has ability to automatically update its virus definition which makes it more advance than other rescue disk CD utility. The update Anti Virus definition will be automatically trigger once the BitDefender rescue disk detected internet connection while boot up. Plus more, BitDefender security technology consists highly sensitive in detecting both known and unknown virus. This free BitDefender Rescue CD also bundles a lot of useful third party utilities such as ChkRootkit for scanning for rootkis, Nessus Network Scanner as remote network security scanner, Mozilla Firefox, Partition Image, GtkRecover and etc to improve productivity of rescue disk. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Help - computer seems infected, going crazy!
I have had great luck with Super anti malware. It has rescued a few computers that have been hijacked. Stewart At 02:10 PM 2/25/2010, you wrote: *Since today my Dell desktop is acting crazy. Keeps popping up with messages (every few seconds) that my computer is infected, when I try to run programs it says they are infected, and can't access AVG (says that is affected), can't find Zone Alarm, and several times has brought up an alleged antivirus program called Soft antivirus which starts scanning my files. Actually, not sure if it is really scanning my files or this is their demonstration. At bottom of screen it is trying to get me to buy this program to disinfect the computer. I don't recall ever having installed this software and can't even find it listed. Can't even go to add or remove hardware. When I'm not on the computer for awhile I notice that it is bringing up webpages (fake pages?) for porn sites, VIagra and other similar stuff. I have no idea what to do to try to remedy this. I'm running Windows XP. Any suggestions would be appreciated. I can connect to the internet and use email, so long as about every 5 seconds I say no to the pop-ups that say my computer is at risk or infiltrated or bring up these websites (using IE, while I am only using FireFox). I keep stopping the scan this new antivirus program seems to be running because I am afraid it itself is a virus, maybe part of a scam to infect the computer in order to get me to buy the software to disinfect it! Help! And thanks Randall * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Help - computer seems infected, going crazy!
On Feb 25, 2010, at 4:05 PM, George Carr wrote: The other day John Gilroy on WAMU's Computer Guys (and Gal) radio show recommended a program called Revo to clean up a machine infected with what sounds like the same malware on your machine: The software is $40 and is designed for something else. Malware is not going to create the uninstall files a program like Revo would need. Maybe if you already had it installed and monitoring changes it might be able to uninstall some malware, but I would not bet on it. Note that its web pages does not say a word about removing malware. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Help - computer seems infected, going crazy!
The software is $40 and is designed for something else. Malware is not going to create the uninstall files a program like Revo would need. Maybe if you already had it installed and monitoring changes it might be able to uninstall some malware, but I would not bet on it. Note that its web pages does not say a word about removing malware. Yeah, I kind of wondered how one ANY program could be installed on so badly an infected system, (and I yes I did note that the website says nothing about removing malware) but John Gilroy did say he used it for that, and recommended it for that purpose. Maybe there was more to the story than he had time for. If you were still on the show you coulda ast him. BTW, I miss those Edgy Listening first Tuesdays with you, Mr. Gilroy and Derek McGinty. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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On Feb 25, 2010, at 7:29 PM, George Carr wrote: If you were still on the show you coulda ast him. BTW, I miss those Edgy Listening first Tuesdays with you, Mr. Gilroy and Derek McGinty. I would have gently edged the conversation toward the correct answer. Battling against those two sure was entertaining. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Help - computer seems infected, going crazy!
Tried a few online scans, didn't work. The antivirus software alert says I'm being attacked by BankerFox.A and another time Nugel something. Keeps asking me if want block the attack but afraid to do this. Trying to download Bitdefender now. Keeps switching me to IE from FF. On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 8:42 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Feb 25, 2010, at 7:29 PM, George Carr wrote: If you were still on the show you coulda ast him. BTW, I miss those Edgy Listening first Tuesdays with you, Mr. Gilroy and Derek McGinty. I would have gently edged the conversation toward the correct answer. Battling against those two sure was entertaining. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Help - computer seems infected, going crazy!
Tried downloading Bitware but every time I try to launch it get message that it cannot be executed, that rundl32.exe is infected. So far, can't do anything. Had Windows defender, antispyware, anti adware, Zone Alarm Pro, AVG, but can't seem to access any of them. Randall On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 9:00 PM, Ranbo ran...@gmail.com wrote: Tried a few online scans, didn't work. The antivirus software alert says I'm being attacked by BankerFox.A and another time Nugel something. Keeps asking me if want block the attack but afraid to do this. Trying to download Bitdefender now. Keeps switching me to IE from FF. On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 8:42 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Feb 25, 2010, at 7:29 PM, George Carr wrote: If you were still on the show you coulda ast him. BTW, I miss those Edgy Listening first Tuesdays with you, Mr. Gilroy and Derek McGinty. I would have gently edged the conversation toward the correct answer. Battling against those two sure was entertaining. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Help - computer seems infected, going crazy!
Someone already suggested you try the BitDefender Rescue CD. Have you? If you can't download and burn that on your machine, maybe you can borrow someone else's computer? At any rate, don't spend hours and days trying to figure this out. Just reinstall Windows and you'll be back up in an afternoon. http://www.techmixer.com/bitdefender-rescue-cd-with-auto-update-virus-definition-features/ On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 9:08 PM, Ranbo ran...@gmail.com wrote: Tried downloading Bitware but every time I try to launch it get message that it cannot be executed, that rundl32.exe is infected. So far, can't do anything. Had Windows defender, antispyware, anti adware, Zone Alarm Pro, AVG, but can't seem to access any of them. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Help - computer seems infected, going crazy!
It is very possible you will need to download the programs you need, on another computer, and run them in safe mode to clean it up. The old Avast would be good as it asked if you wanted to do a boot time scan for viruses and it was very effective. Stewart At 08:08 PM 2/25/2010, you wrote: Tried downloading Bitware but every time I try to launch it get message that it cannot be executed, that rundl32.exe is infected. So far, can't do anything. Had Windows defender, antispyware, anti adware, Zone Alarm Pro, AVG, but can't seem to access any of them. Randall On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 9:00 PM, Ranbo ran...@gmail.com wrote: Tried a few online scans, didn't work. The antivirus software alert says I'm being attacked by BankerFox.A and another time Nugel something. Keeps asking me if want block the attack but afraid to do this. Trying to download Bitdefender now. Keeps switching me to IE from FF. On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 8:42 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Feb 25, 2010, at 7:29 PM, George Carr wrote: If you were still on the show you coulda ast him. BTW, I miss those Edgy Listening first Tuesdays with you, Mr. Gilroy and Derek McGinty. I would have gently edged the conversation toward the correct answer. Battling against those two sure was entertaining. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Help - computer seems infected, going crazy!
Is this a specific program? Randall On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 5:18 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall popoz...@earthlink.net wrote: I have had great luck with Super anti malware. It has rescued a few computers that have been hijacked. Stewart At 02:10 PM 2/25/2010, you wrote: *Since today my Dell desktop is acting crazy. Keeps popping up with messages (every few seconds) that my computer is infected, when I try to run programs it says they are infected, and can't access AVG (says that is affected), can't find Zone Alarm, and several times has brought up an alleged antivirus program called Soft antivirus which starts scanning my files. Actually, not sure if it is really scanning my files or this is their demonstration. At bottom of screen it is trying to get me to buy this program to disinfect the computer. I don't recall ever having installed this software and can't even find it listed. Can't even go to add or remove hardware. When I'm not on the computer for awhile I notice that it is bringing up webpages (fake pages?) for porn sites, VIagra and other similar stuff. I have no idea what to do to try to remedy this. I'm running Windows XP. Any suggestions would be appreciated. I can connect to the internet and use email, so long as about every 5 seconds I say no to the pop-ups that say my computer is at risk or infiltrated or bring up these websites (using IE, while I am only using FireFox). I keep stopping the scan this new antivirus program seems to be running because I am afraid it itself is a virus, maybe part of a scam to infect the computer in order to get me to buy the software to disinfect it! Help! And thanks Randall * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Help - computer seems infected, going crazy!
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Yes malwarebytes anti malware http://www.malwarebytes.org/mbam.php Free download and will fix minor problems. They do want money for a bigger and better program, but this usually does the trick. Stewart At 08:34 PM 2/25/2010, you wrote: Is this a specific program? Randall On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 5:18 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall popoz...@earthlink.net wrote: I have had great luck with Super anti malware. It has rescued a few computers that have been hijacked. Stewart At 02:10 PM 2/25/2010, you wrote: *Since today my Dell desktop is acting crazy. Keeps popping up with messages (every few seconds) that my computer is infected, when I try to run programs it says they are infected, and can't access AVG (says that is affected), can't find Zone Alarm, and several times has brought up an alleged antivirus program called Soft antivirus which starts scanning my files. Actually, not sure if it is really scanning my files or this is their demonstration. At bottom of screen it is trying to get me to buy this program to disinfect the computer. I don't recall ever having installed this software and can't even find it listed. Can't even go to add or remove hardware. When I'm not on the computer for awhile I notice that it is bringing up webpages (fake pages?) for porn sites, VIagra and other similar stuff. I have no idea what to do to try to remedy this. I'm running Windows XP. Any suggestions would be appreciated. I can connect to the internet and use email, so long as about every 5 seconds I say no to the pop-ups that say my computer is at risk or infiltrated or bring up these websites (using IE, while I am only using FireFox). I keep stopping the scan this new antivirus program seems to be running because I am afraid it itself is a virus, maybe part of a scam to infect the computer in order to get me to buy the software to disinfect it! Help! And thanks Randall * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Help - computer seems infected, going crazy!
*Was able to download the free version but when went to launch got pop up saying that it is infected and wouldn't launch. Guess you were right about having to get the software on another computer. Something has taken over my whole computer, like a demonic possession. Think it needs an exorcism, but not an expensive one! * On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 9:51 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall popoz...@earthlink.net wrote: Yes malwarebytes anti malware http://www.malwarebytes.org/mbam.php Free download and will fix minor problems. They do want money for a bigger and better program, but this usually does the trick. Stewart At 08:34 PM 2/25/2010, you wrote: Is this a specific program? Randall On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 5:18 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall popoz...@earthlink.net wrote: I have had great luck with Super anti malware. It has rescued a few computers that have been hijacked. Stewart At 02:10 PM 2/25/2010, you wrote: *Since today my Dell desktop is acting crazy. Keeps popping up with messages (every few seconds) that my computer is infected, when I try to run programs it says they are infected, and can't access AVG (says that is affected), can't find Zone Alarm, and several times has brought up an alleged antivirus program called Soft antivirus which starts scanning my files. Actually, not sure if it is really scanning my files or this is their demonstration. At bottom of screen it is trying to get me to buy this program to disinfect the computer. I don't recall ever having installed this software and can't even find it listed. Can't even go to add or remove hardware. When I'm not on the computer for awhile I notice that it is bringing up webpages (fake pages?) for porn sites, VIagra and other similar stuff. I have no idea what to do to try to remedy this. I'm running Windows XP. Any suggestions would be appreciated. I can connect to the internet and use email, so long as about every 5 seconds I say no to the pop-ups that say my computer is at risk or infiltrated or bring up these websites (using IE, while I am only using FireFox). I keep stopping the scan this new antivirus program seems to be running because I am afraid it itself is a virus, maybe part of a scam to infect the computer in order to get me to buy the software to disinfect it! Help! And thanks Randall * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Help - computer seems infected, going crazy!
Most hijacking software will do this they will tag everything so you cant run it or load it. Stewart At 09:26 PM 2/25/2010, you wrote: *Was able to download the free version but when went to launch got pop up saying that it is infected and wouldn't launch. Guess you were right about having to get the software on another computer. Something has taken over my whole computer, like a demonic possession. Think it needs an exorcism, but not an expensive one! * On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 9:51 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall popoz...@earthlink.net wrote: Yes malwarebytes anti malware http://www.malwarebytes.org/mbam.php Free download and will fix minor problems. They do want money for a bigger and better program, but this usually does the trick. Stewart At 08:34 PM 2/25/2010, you wrote: Is this a specific program? Randall On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 5:18 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall popoz...@earthlink.net wrote: I have had great luck with Super anti malware. It has rescued a few computers that have been hijacked. Stewart At 02:10 PM 2/25/2010, you wrote: *Since today my Dell desktop is acting crazy. Keeps popping up with messages (every few seconds) that my computer is infected, when I try to run programs it says they are infected, and can't access AVG (says that is affected), can't find Zone Alarm, and several times has brought up an alleged antivirus program called Soft antivirus which starts scanning my files. Actually, not sure if it is really scanning my files or this is their demonstration. At bottom of screen it is trying to get me to buy this program to disinfect the computer. I don't recall ever having installed this software and can't even find it listed. Can't even go to add or remove hardware. When I'm not on the computer for awhile I notice that it is bringing up webpages (fake pages?) for porn sites, VIagra and other similar stuff. I have no idea what to do to try to remedy this. I'm running Windows XP. Any suggestions would be appreciated. I can connect to the internet and use email, so long as about every 5 seconds I say no to the pop-ups that say my computer is at risk or infiltrated or bring up these websites (using IE, while I am only using FireFox). I keep stopping the scan this new antivirus program seems to be running because I am afraid it itself is a virus, maybe part of a scam to infect the computer in order to get me to buy the software to disinfect it! Help! And thanks Randall * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Re: [CGUYS] Help - very slow loading....again!
Mypoint re: cars was that that car and highway technology has matured to the point that anyone from a teenager to a grandparent can just take off and drive one across the country ... not much specialized knowledge is needed... which wasn't at all the case for the first 30 to 50 years. Of course, now that MS has announced an operating system for cars, all bets are off. Zune Cars will be double plus good. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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It's primitive because it is young and evolving technology. The cars you drive that work so relatively dependently so almost anyone can use one is a technology that has in development for over 100 years and even now we are still discovering a terminal energy/ polution problem with cars. Cars do far less than computers and innovation in that industry is almost zilch. Given several years warning that lighter, more efficient autos are what the public wanted, they were unable to deliver and kept making what they were making. Today innovation is mostly about flying to Washington in their private jets to ask for new kinds of handouts. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Help - very slow loading....again!
People downloading pirated bit torrent movies can easily consume the majority of the bandwidth wideband cable can provide. Make a complaint to your cable company. They can monitor the situation and if necessary control users exceeding their limits or alternatively supply more bandwidth to your sector. The bit about downloading pirated bit torrent movies and control users exceeding their limits is the party line for the opponents of network neutrality who want to put artificial caps and surcharges on your service to jack up your rates and herd you to their business partners. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Help - very slow loading....again!
I know if I subscribe to legitimate sites or purchase an appliance (Like the new ROKU for Netflix) that means I am only allowed to download one movie a month or so? I have seen where some are pegging different caps for different levels of service. I presently have a 5 mps service (on paper not in real life) and with some services this would give me a 100 gb cap. Since I am a heavy movie watcher that would limit me to 15 or less downloaded movies a month, unless they are compressing the signal so it is not a full DVD. Stewart At 10:33 AM 11/29/2008, you wrote: The bit about downloading pirated bit torrent movies and control users exceeding their limits is the party line for the opponents of network neutrality who want to put artificial caps and surcharges on your service to jack up your rates and herd you to their business partners. Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Help - very slow loading....again!
At 11:22 AM 11/29/2008, Tom Piwowar wrote: Cars do far less than computers and innovation in that industry is almost zilch. Given several years warning that lighter, more efficient autos are what the public wanted, they were unable to deliver and kept making what they were making. Today innovation is mostly about flying to Washington in their private jets to ask for new kinds of handouts. If someone really thought they actually knew how to build an innovative car that was economically feasible (didn't depend upon government coercion), and had a convincing argument for it, investors would flock to participate. So far, it, along with much alternative energy hasn't really worked yet. Not when all aspect of the economics are considered. Fred Holmes * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Help - very slow loading....again!
However, mysteriously, yesterday (Thursday) I suddenly can access internet with IE and pages are loading fast again. This would be a good time to take some benchmarks so you have something to compare to when you have problems. Measure your upload/download speeds and save a record. Run a tracert to your DNSs. Use DiG to make a DNS query and note the response time. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Help - very slow loading....again!
Okay, how do you use DiG to make a DNS query? If DNS numbers are assigned automatically, does that mean they can frequently be changing? If so, what is true at one moment in time as ascertained by a DNS query, may not hold the next day? Randall On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 12:11 PM, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, mysteriously, yesterday (Thursday) I suddenly can access internet with IE and pages are loading fast again. This would be a good time to take some benchmarks so you have something to compare to when you have problems. Measure your upload/download speeds and save a record. Run a tracert to your DNSs. Use DiG to make a DNS query and note the response time. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Help - very slow loading....again!
If other nearby users can affect your loading speed than this would be a possibility. I live in an apartment complex and there are people moving in and out pretty often. Additionally, probably were some visitors over the holidays, when this seemed to begin or accelerate. I did hear a few new voices the past few days and noted that my neighbor across the hall had some children visiting. Randall On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 10:46 PM, db [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why is the state of IT service so lacking? I know it's frustrating but don't be so surprised and plaintive. It's primitive because it is young and evolving technology. The cars you drive that work so relatively dependently so almost anyone can use one is a technology that has in development for over 100 years and even now we are still discovering a terminal energy/ polution problem with cars. The internet: most people had not even heard of it outside the Universities as recently as 1995. It's in it infancy. Cable wideband co's never even conceived of such a disruptive usages such as bit-torrent usage (google it...) that was made possible by development of Napster like peer to peer networking via TCP/IP. They have just re-written their contracts this year to limit subscribers usage. Given a bit more time they will have the infrastructure created to be able to monitor it as the user level. Then you won't have the problem. Take note of what times of day and what times of the week you have the slowdowns and whether you are aware of any new / young neighbors that moved in about the time this problem started... People downloading pirated bit torrent movies can easily consume the majority of the bandwidth wideband cable can provide. Make a complaint to your cable company. They can monitor the situation and if necessary control users exceeding their limits or alternatively supply more bandwidth to your sector. db. Ranbo wrote: I really don't know. What would be periodic bit torrent traffic? Wouldn't the RCN tech have been able to notice this when I called Wed. night? However, mysteriously, yesterday (Thursday) I suddenly can access internet with IE and pages are loading fast again. Using Firefox seems somewhat slower, but also faster (fingers crossed) than when it really slowed down for a day or so (though in retrospect seems that it may have been gradually slowing down). I tried various things including changing the DNS and changing back to automatic detect, cleaning private data and defragging, but none of these seemed to make more than maybe a slight improvement at the time. Guess I have something to at least temporarily be thankful about. All of this is so strange and mysterious. Why are there not better built-in, automatic diagnostics for these things? If something - anything of possible significance - changes from time 1 to time 2, why can't my computer track and indicate this, with indication of possible signficance or problems? Why, that is, should the average or naive user be just as much in the dark about what is possibly going on with the operation of their computer and/or their internet use as was the case 10 years ago and maybe 20 years ago? Why no advancement in this area, at least that I can see or have access to? Randall On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 5:48 PM, db [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I haven't been following this thread closely ...if you are on a cable modem connection it is possible you have some periodic bit torrent traffic nearby which is robbing your bandwidth. ? db Tom Piwowar wrote: Called RCN tech support. Tech said not to mess with DNS settings and had me restore to detect automatically. Either way, doesn't seem to make loading much quicker. He said download speed (5 mb) was okay so he couldn't help beyond that. I'm about to give up. Have had this problem recurrently and can never seem to figure out what the damn problem is. What this tech told you indicates that this tech does not know very much. Try again with a different tech. Or ask for a smart one. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ **
Re: [CGUYS] Help - very slow loading....again!
I haven't followed all of the symptoms carefully, but here on Cox Cable in Annandale, VA, with 3 Mbs service I frequently get instances when nothing accessing the Internet works, or else is very slow. I just attribute it to WAN congestion, whether it be bots doing their thing or neighbors downloading a lot of stuff simultaneously. I do blame it on Cox. I have a couple of older computers attached to my router as well as my primary computer, and all are affected, so it doesn't seem to be the configuration of my particular computer. I don't really know the neighbors well enough to talk to them about their experience. My D-Link router has a feature to write to a log file all blocks (incoming packets that are intentionally dropped because they are not in response to a request from the computer they are directed to, i.e., Stateful Packet Inspection) and then, when the log file is full (or periodically) e-mail that log file to me. It's very interesting to watch the density of blocking activity wax and wane. It gets very intense at times. Even more so on the router at my son's house where my grandkids computers are attached. I haven't had a slowdown in some days now, and the log files have been very empty. Maybe the ostracization of that rogue ISP in California has shut a lot of stuff down. Fred Holmes At 09:10 PM 11/28/2008, Ranbo wrote: I really don't know. What would be periodic bit torrent traffic? Wouldn't the RCN tech have been able to notice this when I called Wed. night? However, mysteriously, yesterday (Thursday) I suddenly can access internet with IE and pages are loading fast again. Using Firefox seems somewhat slower, but also faster (fingers crossed) than when it really slowed down for a day or so (though in retrospect seems that it may have been gradually slowing down). I tried various things including changing the DNS and changing back to automatic detect, cleaning private data and defragging, but none of these seemed to make more than maybe a slight improvement at the time. Guess I have something to at least temporarily be thankful about. All of this is so strange and mysterious. Why are there not better built-in, automatic diagnostics for these things? If something - anything of possible significance - changes from time 1 to time 2, why can't my computer track and indicate this, with indication of possible signficance or problems? Why, that is, should the average or naive user be just as much in the dark about what is possibly going on with the operation of their computer and/or their internet use as was the case 10 years ago and maybe 20 years ago? Why no advancement in this area, at least that I can see or have access to? Randall On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 5:48 PM, db [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I haven't been following this thread closely ...if you are on a cable modem connection it is possible you have some periodic bit torrent traffic nearby which is robbing your bandwidth. ? db Tom Piwowar wrote: Called RCN tech support. Tech said not to mess with DNS settings and had me restore to detect automatically. Either way, doesn't seem to make loading much quicker. He said download speed (5 mb) was okay so he couldn't help beyond that. I'm about to give up. Have had this problem recurrently and can never seem to figure out what the damn problem is. What this tech told you indicates that this tech does not know very much. Try again with a different tech. Or ask for a smart one. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Help - very slow loading....again!
Automatic assignment of DNS usually means that you are assigned to use DNS servers provided by your ISP, or ones that he has subscribed to (and is directly or indirectly responsible for seeing that they aren't hacked or at least has come to trust). If you are using a router, set the individual computers to automatically detect DNS service, and set the router to use the DNS you want. OpenDNS is a good one to use. http://www.OpenDNS.com/ They apparently are making a serious effort to defeat DNS hacking attempts. They also get some advertising revenue from what you see when you type in an erroneous URL, either one that isn't assigned or one that they believe belongs to the black hats. Your ISP's tech support want you to use their DNS automatically so that they can gather statistics on what URLs you visit instead of someone else gathering those statistics. Fred Holmes At 04:16 PM 11/29/2008, Ranbo wrote: If DNS numbers are assigned automatically, does that mean they can frequently be changing? If so, what is true at one moment in time as ascertained by a DNS query, may not hold the next day? Randall * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Help - very slow loading....again!
Mypoint re: cars was that that car and highway technology has matured to the point that anyone from a teenager to a grandparent can just take off and drive one across the country ... not much specialized knowledge is needed... which wasn't at all the case for the first 30 to 50 years. That's where the internet computers are now... in their early developmental years... and the lumps ... like uneven uncontrolled access have yet to be worked out. There are so many uncontrolled variables that it takes skill to figure out what is causing such a browsing slowdown. In this case, I am betting on the neighbors downloading movies. That said, any body know anything about software / bots etc that can be used for sniffing local traffic and spotting such nearby heavy cable broadband usage? db Fred Holmes wrote: At 11:22 AM 11/29/2008, Tom Piwowar wrote:file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/db/Application%20Data/Microsoft/Internet%20Explorer/Quick%20Launch/Mozilla%20Firefox.lnk cid:part1.04080106.03010502@att.net Cars do far less than computers and innovation in that industry is almost zilch. Given several years warning that lighter, more efficient autos are what the public wanted, they were unable to deliver and kept making what they were making. Today innovation is mostly about flying to Washington in their private jets to ask for new kinds of handouts. If someone really thought they actually knew how to build an innovative car that was economically feasible (didn't depend upon government coercion), and had a convincing argument for it, investors would flock to participate. So far, it, along with much alternative energy hasn't really worked yet. Not when all aspect of the economics are considered. Fred Holmes * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Help - very slow loading....again!
Your ISP's tech support want you to use their DNS automatically so that they can gather statistics on what URLs you visit instead of someone else gathering those statistics. Note that they collect this in hopes of selling information about your choices. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Help - very slow loading....again!
Automatic assignment of DNS usually means that you are assigned to use DNS servers provided by your ISP, I would not assume that my ISP manages their DNS well. Following my own advice I changed my DNS to one listed with a fast response time and the difference is significant. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Help - very slow loading....again!
The last slowdown seemed to last, if I recall, over at least a day if not more. Seems like it would take a lot of people downloading a lot of movies to keep it slow all that time, so just wondering. Of course, wasn't trying to use internet all of that time. Randall On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 8:20 PM, db [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mypoint re: cars was that that car and highway technology has matured to the point that anyone from a teenager to a grandparent can just take off and drive one across the country ... not much specialized knowledge is needed... which wasn't at all the case for the first 30 to 50 years. That's where the internet computers are now... in their early developmental years... and the lumps ... like uneven uncontrolled access have yet to be worked out. There are so many uncontrolled variables that it takes skill to figure out what is causing such a browsing slowdown. In this case, I am betting on the neighbors downloading movies. That said, any body know anything about software / bots etc that can be used for sniffing local traffic and spotting such nearby heavy cable broadband usage? db Fred Holmes wrote: At 11:22 AM 11/29/2008, Tom Piwowar wrote:file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/db/Application%20Data/Microsoft/Internet%20Explorer/Quick%20Launch/Mozilla%20Firefox.lnk cid:part1.04080106.03010502@att.net[EMAIL PROTECTED] Cars do far less than computers and innovation in that industry is almost zilch. Given several years warning that lighter, more efficient autos are what the public wanted, they were unable to deliver and kept making what they were making. Today innovation is mostly about flying to Washington in their private jets to ask for new kinds of handouts. If someone really thought they actually knew how to build an innovative car that was economically feasible (didn't depend upon government coercion), and had a convincing argument for it, investors would flock to participate. So far, it, along with much alternative energy hasn't really worked yet. Not when all aspect of the economics are considered. Fred Holmes * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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If DNS numbers are assigned automatically, does that mean they can frequently be changing? They rarely change. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Help - very slow loading....again!
It could take 9 or 10 hours to download one movie. And usually it's a two way thing. You download a movie someone else has and someone uploads one of yours. And 20 somethings rarely do anything by themselves.. db Ranbo wrote: The last slowdown seemed to last, if I recall, over at least a day if not more. Seems like it would take a lot of people downloading a lot of movies to keep it slow all that time, so just wondering. Of course, wasn't trying to use internet all of that time. Randall On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 8:20 PM, db [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mypoint re: cars was that that car and highway technology has matured to the point that anyone from a teenager to a grandparent can just take off and drive one across the country ... not much specialized knowledge is needed... which wasn't at all the case for the first 30 to 50 years. That's where the internet computers are now... in their early developmental years... and the lumps ... like uneven uncontrolled access have yet to be worked out. There are so many uncontrolled variables that it takes skill to figure out what is causing such a browsing slowdown. In this case, I am betting on the neighbors downloading movies. That said, any body know anything about software / bots etc that can be used for sniffing local traffic and spotting such nearby heavy cable broadband usage? db Fred Holmes wrote: At 11:22 AM 11/29/2008, Tom Piwowar wrote:file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/db/Application%20Data/Microsoft/Internet%20Explorer/Quick%20Launch/Mozilla%20Firefox.lnk cid:part1.04080106.03010502@att.net[EMAIL PROTECTED] Cars do far less than computers and innovation in that industry is almost zilch. Given several years warning that lighter, more efficient autos are what the public wanted, they were unable to deliver and kept making what they were making. Today innovation is mostly about flying to Washington in their private jets to ask for new kinds of handouts. If someone really thought they actually knew how to build an innovative car that was economically feasible (didn't depend upon government coercion), and had a convincing argument for it, investors would flock to participate. So far, it, along with much alternative energy hasn't really worked yet. Not when all aspect of the economics are considered. Fred Holmes * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Help - very slow loading....again!
Where did you find the listing for DNS response times? db Tom Piwowar wrote: Automatic assignment of DNS usually means that you are assigned to use DNS servers provided by your ISP, I would not assume that my ISP manages their DNS well. Following my own advice I changed my DNS to one listed with a fast response time and the difference is significant. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Help - very slow loading....again!
I changed on of the DNS settings (not the alternate). Maybe made a slight difference in loading. Trying to reach tech support. Try running tracert from the command line. If any of the first few hops show a long response time that would be something to report to tech support as that will probably be one of their routers. E.g. Start Run Cmd tracert apple.com * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Help - very slow loading....again!
Called RCN tech support. Tech said not to mess with DNS settings and had me restore to detect automatically. Either way, doesn't seem to make loading much quicker. He said download speed (5 mb) was okay so he couldn't help beyond that. I'm about to give up. Have had this problem recurrently and can never seem to figure out what the damn problem is. What this tech told you indicates that this tech does not know very much. Try again with a different tech. Or ask for a smart one. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Help - very slow loading....again!
I really don't know. What would be periodic bit torrent traffic? Wouldn't the RCN tech have been able to notice this when I called Wed. night? However, mysteriously, yesterday (Thursday) I suddenly can access internet with IE and pages are loading fast again. Using Firefox seems somewhat slower, but also faster (fingers crossed) than when it really slowed down for a day or so (though in retrospect seems that it may have been gradually slowing down). I tried various things including changing the DNS and changing back to automatic detect, cleaning private data and defragging, but none of these seemed to make more than maybe a slight improvement at the time. Guess I have something to at least temporarily be thankful about. All of this is so strange and mysterious. Why are there not better built-in, automatic diagnostics for these things? If something - anything of possible significance - changes from time 1 to time 2, why can't my computer track and indicate this, with indication of possible signficance or problems? Why, that is, should the average or naive user be just as much in the dark about what is possibly going on with the operation of their computer and/or their internet use as was the case 10 years ago and maybe 20 years ago? Why no advancement in this area, at least that I can see or have access to? Randall On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 5:48 PM, db [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I haven't been following this thread closely ...if you are on a cable modem connection it is possible you have some periodic bit torrent traffic nearby which is robbing your bandwidth. ? db Tom Piwowar wrote: Called RCN tech support. Tech said not to mess with DNS settings and had me restore to detect automatically. Either way, doesn't seem to make loading much quicker. He said download speed (5 mb) was okay so he couldn't help beyond that. I'm about to give up. Have had this problem recurrently and can never seem to figure out what the damn problem is. What this tech told you indicates that this tech does not know very much. Try again with a different tech. Or ask for a smart one. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Help - very slow loading....again!
I hate to sound ungrateful on Thanksgiving eve, but my computer is once again taking forever to load every page. This, with FireFox, including with creating a new profile. Last time, creating a new profile seemed to help; now it doesn't. Further, can't even seem to use IE as alternative which worked previously. Some people are complaining about the virus scanner that FF just added, but since your IE works crappy too the problem is probably at the system level. I recently fixed such sluggishness by changing the DNS servers I was using. I had been using OpenDNS -- as I and many others on the list have recommended. But recently OpenDNS has been very sluggish. So I switched to my ISP's DNS. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Help - very slow loading....again!
Why is the state of IT service so lacking? I know it's frustrating but don't be so surprised and plaintive. It's primitive because it is young and evolving technology. The cars you drive that work so relatively dependently so almost anyone can use one is a technology that has in development for over 100 years and even now we are still discovering a terminal energy/ polution problem with cars. The internet: most people had not even heard of it outside the Universities as recently as 1995. It's in it infancy. Cable wideband co's never even conceived of such a disruptive usages such as bit-torrent usage (google it...) that was made possible by development of Napster like peer to peer networking via TCP/IP. They have just re-written their contracts this year to limit subscribers usage. Given a bit more time they will have the infrastructure created to be able to monitor it as the user level. Then you won't have the problem. Take note of what times of day and what times of the week you have the slowdowns and whether you are aware of any new / young neighbors that moved in about the time this problem started... People downloading pirated bit torrent movies can easily consume the majority of the bandwidth wideband cable can provide. Make a complaint to your cable company. They can monitor the situation and if necessary control users exceeding their limits or alternatively supply more bandwidth to your sector. db. Ranbo wrote: I really don't know. What would be periodic bit torrent traffic? Wouldn't the RCN tech have been able to notice this when I called Wed. night? However, mysteriously, yesterday (Thursday) I suddenly can access internet with IE and pages are loading fast again. Using Firefox seems somewhat slower, but also faster (fingers crossed) than when it really slowed down for a day or so (though in retrospect seems that it may have been gradually slowing down). I tried various things including changing the DNS and changing back to automatic detect, cleaning private data and defragging, but none of these seemed to make more than maybe a slight improvement at the time. Guess I have something to at least temporarily be thankful about. All of this is so strange and mysterious. Why are there not better built-in, automatic diagnostics for these things? If something - anything of possible significance - changes from time 1 to time 2, why can't my computer track and indicate this, with indication of possible signficance or problems? Why, that is, should the average or naive user be just as much in the dark about what is possibly going on with the operation of their computer and/or their internet use as was the case 10 years ago and maybe 20 years ago? Why no advancement in this area, at least that I can see or have access to? Randall On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 5:48 PM, db [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I haven't been following this thread closely ...if you are on a cable modem connection it is possible you have some periodic bit torrent traffic nearby which is robbing your bandwidth. ? db Tom Piwowar wrote: Called RCN tech support. Tech said not to mess with DNS settings and had me restore to detect automatically. Either way, doesn't seem to make loading much quicker. He said download speed (5 mb) was okay so he couldn't help beyond that. I'm about to give up. Have had this problem recurrently and can never seem to figure out what the damn problem is. What this tech told you indicates that this tech does not know very much. Try again with a different tech. Or ask for a smart one. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Help - very slow loading....again!
I hate to sound ungrateful on Thanksgiving eve, but my computer is once again taking forever to load every page. This, with FireFox, including with creating a new profile. Last time, creating a new profile seemed to help; now it doesn't. Further, can't even seem to use IE as alternative which worked previously. Trying IE just brings up message that there are connection problems, then can't even do the diagnostic that pops up. Every page is taking dial-up-type time to load, even though speed test shows I'm getting about 4.7 MB download speed. Any idea why this is happening; why this recurrently happens? More important, what I can do about this very frustrating state of affairs? I will be very thankful and grateful if I can once again go on the internet or use Gmail without waiting maybe 30 to 45 seconds for each page to load! Happy Thanksgiving, either way Randall * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Help - very slow loading....again!
Have you tried using Windows Task Manager (Control, ALT, Delete), to see what is using up the CPU? Your System Idle Process should be above 90% when you aren't doing anything. For more detailed info, you can also use Process Explorer, but start with Task Manager if you don't already have PE. Richard P. \ but my computer is once again taking forever to load every page. This, with FireFox, including with creating a new profile. Last time, creating a new profile seemed to help; now it doesn't. Further, can't even seem to use IE as alternative which worked previously. Trying IE just brings up message that there are connection problems, then can't even do the diagnostic that pops up. Every page is taking dial-up-type time to load, even though speed test shows I'm getting about 4.7 MB download speed.\ * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Help - very slow loading....again!
I just tried this...CPU usage is going all over the place as I watch it, from 0 to 72% and in between. Yet the only application showing as running is Gmail. I will try deleting some processes to see what happens but not sure what many of them are. Randall On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 11:53 AM, Richard P. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you tried using Windows Task Manager (Control, ALT, Delete), to see what is using up the CPU? Your System Idle Process should be above 90% when you aren't doing anything. For more detailed info, you can also use Process Explorer, but start with Task Manager if you don't already have PE. Richard P. \ but my computer is once again taking forever to load every page. This, with FireFox, including with creating a new profile. Last time, creating a new profile seemed to help; now it doesn't. Further, can't even seem to use IE as alternative which worked previously. Trying IE just brings up message that there are connection problems, then can't even do the diagnostic that pops up. Every page is taking dial-up-type time to load, even though speed test shows I'm getting about 4.7 MB download speed.\ * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Help - very slow loading....again!
I deleted a few processes which seemed related to AVG (antivirus). CPU usage did drop from between 0 and 100% to about 5 to 15% and loading speed seems a little faster. Curious, once page loads the loading icon that spins is still spinning, for a long, long time. Not sure what this means. Also, hope I didn't just inactivate AVG antivirus entirely. Why can't computers have more self-diagnostics built in? Is this asking too much!? On Thanksgiving. Randall On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 12:14 PM, Ranbo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just tried this...CPU usage is going all over the place as I watch it, from 0 to 72% and in between. Yet the only application showing as running is Gmail. I will try deleting some processes to see what happens but not sure what many of them are. Randall On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 11:53 AM, Richard P. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you tried using Windows Task Manager (Control, ALT, Delete), to see what is using up the CPU? Your System Idle Process should be above 90% when you aren't doing anything. For more detailed info, you can also use Process Explorer, but start with Task Manager if you don't already have PE. Richard P. \ but my computer is once again taking forever to load every page. This, with FireFox, including with creating a new profile. Last time, creating a new profile seemed to help; now it doesn't. Further, can't even seem to use IE as alternative which worked previously. Trying IE just brings up message that there are connection problems, then can't even do the diagnostic that pops up. Every page is taking dial-up-type time to load, even though speed test shows I'm getting about 4.7 MB download speed.\ * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Help - very slow loading....again!
Try uninstalling AVG, turning on MS firewall, rebooting, and see if that changes things. That will tell you whether AVG is the source of the problem. db Ranbo wrote: I deleted a few processes which seemed related to AVG (antivirus). CPU usage did drop from between 0 and 100% to about 5 to 15% and loading speed seems a little faster. Curious, once page loads the loading icon that spins is still spinning, for a long, long time. Not sure what this means. Also, hope I didn't just inactivate AVG antivirus entirely. Why can't computers have more self-diagnostics built in? Is this asking too much!? On Thanksgiving. Randall On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 12:14 PM, Ranbo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just tried this...CPU usage is going all over the place as I watch it, from 0 to 72% and in between. Yet the only application showing as running is Gmail. I will try deleting some processes to see what happens but not sure what many of them are. Randall On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 11:53 AM, Richard P. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you tried using Windows Task Manager (Control, ALT, Delete), to see what is using up the CPU? Your System Idle Process should be above 90% when you aren't doing anything. For more detailed info, you can also use Process Explorer, but start with Task Manager if you don't already have PE. Richard P. \ but my computer is once again taking forever to load every page. This, with FireFox, including with creating a new profile. Last time, creating a new profile seemed to help; now it doesn't. Further, can't even seem to use IE as alternative which worked previously. Trying IE just brings up message that there are connection problems, then can't even do the diagnostic that pops up. Every page is taking dial-up-type time to load, even though speed test shows I'm getting about 4.7 MB download speed.\ * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Help - very slow loading....again!
I uninstalled AVG, CPU usage dropped to around 2%, yet loading is still slow. Re. DNS settings, think I have them at what the ISP originally set them at or said to set them at. Still can't use IE, which used to be fast when had this problem with FF before. Guess I should re-install AVG? But what else can I do or try? Call the ISP tech support, which means not getting anyone until maybe Monday? Randall On 11/26/08, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hate to sound ungrateful on Thanksgiving eve, but my computer is once again taking forever to load every page. This, with FireFox, including with creating a new profile. Last time, creating a new profile seemed to help; now it doesn't. Further, can't even seem to use IE as alternative which worked previously. Some people are complaining about the virus scanner that FF just added, but since your IE works crappy too the problem is probably at the system level. I recently fixed such sluggishness by changing the DNS servers I was using. I had been using OpenDNS -- as I and many others on the list have recommended. But recently OpenDNS has been very sluggish. So I switched to my ISP's DNS. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Help - very slow loading....again!
It could be a DNS matter but Yes ... try the ISP support. They deal with these specific problems all the time. db Ranbo wrote: I uninstalled AVG, CPU usage dropped to around 2%, yet loading is still slow. Re. DNS settings, think I have them at what the ISP originally set them at or said to set them at. Still can't use IE, which used to be fast when had this problem with FF before. Guess I should re-install AVG? But what else can I do or try? Call the ISP tech support, which means not getting anyone until maybe Monday? Randall On 11/26/08, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hate to sound ungrateful on Thanksgiving eve, but my computer is once again taking forever to load every page. This, with FireFox, including with creating a new profile. Last time, creating a new profile seemed to help; now it doesn't. Further, can't even seem to use IE as alternative which worked previously. Some people are complaining about the virus scanner that FF just added, but since your IE works crappy too the problem is probably at the system level. I recently fixed such sluggishness by changing the DNS servers I was using. I had been using OpenDNS -- as I and many others on the list have recommended. But recently OpenDNS has been very sluggish. So I switched to my ISP's DNS. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Help - very slow loading....again!
Re. DNS settings, think I have them at what the ISP originally set them at or said to set them at. Still can't use IE, which used to be fast when had this problem with FF before. Guess I should re-install AVG? But what else can I do or try? Call the ISP tech support, which means not getting anyone until maybe Monday? Point yourself to a different DNS. It is quick and easy to do so try it before you do more complicated things. Find some at www.dnsserverlist.org * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Help - very slow loading....again!
okay, I went to the site below; how do you change the DNS setting? Thanks Randall On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 5:39 PM, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Re. DNS settings, think I have them at what the ISP originally set them at or said to set them at. Still can't use IE, which used to be fast when had this problem with FF before. Guess I should re-install AVG? But what else can I do or try? Call the ISP tech support, which means not getting anyone until maybe Monday? Point yourself to a different DNS. It is quick and easy to do so try it before you do more complicated things. Find some at www.dnsserverlist.org * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Help - very slow loading....again!
If you have cable or DSL, you need to change DNS settings in either your router, if you have one, or their modem. -Original Message- okay, I went to the site below; how do you change the DNS setting? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Help - very slow loading....again!
okay, I went to the site below; how do you change the DNS setting? Press F1 to get to the Windows Help Center. Search on DNS. Click the link for configuring TCP/IP settings. Read and obey. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Help - very slow loading....again!
I changed on of the DNS settings (not the alternate). Maybe made a slight difference in loading. Trying to reach tech support. Randall On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 7:45 PM, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: okay, I went to the site below; how do you change the DNS setting? Press F1 to get to the Windows Help Center. Search on DNS. Click the link for configuring TCP/IP settings. Read and obey. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Help - very slow loading....again!
Called RCN tech support. Tech said not to mess with DNS settings and had me restore to detect automatically. Either way, doesn't seem to make loading much quicker. He said download speed (5 mb) was okay so he couldn't help beyond that. I'm about to give up. Have had this problem recurrently and can never seem to figure out what the damn problem is. Randall On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 8:17 PM, Ranbo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I changed on of the DNS settings (not the alternate). Maybe made a slight difference in loading. Trying to reach tech support. Randall On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 7:45 PM, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: okay, I went to the site below; how do you change the DNS setting? Press F1 to get to the Windows Help Center. Search on DNS. Click the link for configuring TCP/IP settings. Read and obey. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] help please -LaCie lightscribe burner problem
Thanks for your reply. Is chkdsk usable on a Mac? On Nov 10, 2008, at 2:57 PM, db wrote: You might try running chkdsk on your drive to see if software corruption is the culprit... db Eugene V Martin wrote: I have been unable to get a LaCie d2 lightscribe DVD/CD burner (20x, USB and firewire interfaces) to burn the label side. I have no problem recording data or audio, but both lightscribe labeler and disklabel report a communications problem preventing a label burn. I am using a 1.5GHz PowerPC G4 Powerbook with OS X 10.5. I have tried using different firewire cables and I have tried burning from another Mac, a G5 iMac, also using the 10.5.4 OS. Same result I have consulted LaCie's tech assistance and gone through several iterations of a process including trashing old files (apps and receipts), downloading new software, repairing permissions, and installing new burner and labeler software, etc. Nothing suggested by LaCie worked and they accepted the burner for repair; they said it worked for them, but they replaced the controller (circuitboard), and sent it back. But, I still have the same unsuccessful response from the burner and LaCie now suggests I try to get help on lightscribe.com's discussion list! I am posting there but I'd greatly appreciate help from the computer guys and/or suggestions for other forums where I might get help. TIA * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] help please -LaCie lightscribe burner problem
Oops... Disk Utility and fsk on a Mac See:http://software-robotics.com/graphic-design-prepress/viewtopic.php?t=205 or google for other instruction on the subject. db Eugene V Martin wrote: Thanks for your reply. Is chkdsk usable on a Mac? On Nov 10, 2008, at 2:57 PM, db wrote: You might try running chkdsk on your drive to see if software corruption is the culprit... db Eugene V Martin wrote: I have been unable to get a LaCie d2 lightscribe DVD/CD burner (20x, USB and firewire interfaces) to burn the label side. I have no problem recording data or audio, but both lightscribe labeler and disklabel report a communications problem preventing a label burn. I am using a 1.5GHz PowerPC G4 Powerbook with OS X 10.5. I have tried using different firewire cables and I have tried burning from another Mac, a G5 iMac, also using the 10.5.4 OS. Same result I have consulted LaCie's tech assistance and gone through several iterations of a process including trashing old files (apps and receipts), downloading new software, repairing permissions, and installing new burner and labeler software, etc. Nothing suggested by LaCie worked and they accepted the burner for repair; they said it worked for them, but they replaced the controller (circuitboard), and sent it back. But, I still have the same unsuccessful response from the burner and LaCie now suggests I try to get help on lightscribe.com's discussion list! I am posting there but I'd greatly appreciate help from the computer guys and/or suggestions for other forums where I might get help. TIA * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] help please -LaCie lightscribe burner problem
I've run verification in disk utility and in Prosoft's Drive Genius 2. No problem!...except mine. On Nov 13, 2008, at 5:06 PM, db wrote: Oops... Disk Utility and fsk on a Mac See:http://software-robotics.com/graphic-design-prepress/viewtopic.php?t=205 or google for other instruction on the subject. db Eugene V Martin wrote: Thanks for your reply. Is chkdsk usable on a Mac? On Nov 10, 2008, at 2:57 PM, db wrote: You might try running chkdsk on your drive to see if software corruption is the culprit... db Eugene V Martin wrote: I have been unable to get a LaCie d2 lightscribe DVD/CD burner (20x, USB and firewire interfaces) to burn the label side. I have no problem recording data or audio, but both lightscribe labeler and disklabel report a communications problem preventing a label burn. I am using a 1.5GHz PowerPC G4 Powerbook with OS X 10.5. I have tried using different firewire cables and I have tried burning from another Mac, a G5 iMac, also using the 10.5.4 OS. Same result I have consulted LaCie's tech assistance and gone through several iterations of a process including trashing old files (apps and receipts), downloading new software, repairing permissions, and installing new burner and labeler software, etc. Nothing suggested by LaCie worked and they accepted the burner for repair; they said it worked for them, but they replaced the controller (circuitboard), and sent it back. But, I still have the same unsuccessful response from the burner and LaCie now suggests I try to get help on lightscribe.com's discussion list! I am posting there but I'd greatly appreciate help from the computer guys and/or suggestions for other forums where I might get help. TIA * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] help please -LaCie lightscribe burner problem
Well so much for that possibility... Have you thought about temporarily borrowing a lightscribe drive from a friend etc and seeing if it works any better on your system? Also, If there are endemic problems with that model it will surface on the forum. If it doesn't the problem is something to do with either that particular drive or your particular system... db Eugene V Martin wrote: I've run verification in disk utility and in Prosoft's Drive Genius 2. No problem!...except mine. On Nov 13, 2008, at 5:06 PM, db wrote: Oops... Disk Utility and fsk on a Mac See:http://software-robotics.com/graphic-design-prepress/viewtopic.php?t=205 or google for other instruction on the subject. db Eugene V Martin wrote: Thanks for your reply. Is chkdsk usable on a Mac? On Nov 10, 2008, at 2:57 PM, db wrote: You might try running chkdsk on your drive to see if software corruption is the culprit... db Eugene V Martin wrote: I have been unable to get a LaCie d2 lightscribe DVD/CD burner (20x, USB and firewire interfaces) to burn the label side. I have no problem recording data or audio, but both lightscribe labeler and disklabel report a communications problem preventing a label burn. I am using a 1.5GHz PowerPC G4 Powerbook with OS X 10.5. I have tried using different firewire cables and I have tried burning from another Mac, a G5 iMac, also using the 10.5.4 OS. Same result I have consulted LaCie's tech assistance and gone through several iterations of a process including trashing old files (apps and receipts), downloading new software, repairing permissions, and installing new burner and labeler software, etc. Nothing suggested by LaCie worked and they accepted the burner for repair; they said it worked for them, but they replaced the controller (circuitboard), and sent it back. But, I still have the same unsuccessful response from the burner and LaCie now suggests I try to get help on lightscribe.com's discussion list! I am posting there but I'd greatly appreciate help from the computer guys and/or suggestions for other forums where I might get help. TIA * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] help please -LaCie lightscribe burner problem
I have been unable to get a LaCie d2 lightscribe DVD/CD burner (20x, USB and firewire interfaces) to burn the label side. I have no problem recording data or audio, but both lightscribe labeler and disklabel report a communications problem preventing a label burn. I am using a 1.5GHz PowerPC G4 Powerbook with OS X 10.5. I have tried using different firewire cables and I have tried burning from another Mac, a G5 iMac, also using the 10.5.4 OS. Same result I have consulted LaCie's tech assistance and gone through several iterations of a process including trashing old files (apps and receipts), downloading new software, repairing permissions, and installing new burner and labeler software, etc. Nothing suggested by LaCie worked and they accepted the burner for repair; they said it worked for them, but they replaced the controller (circuitboard), and sent it back. But, I still have the same unsuccessful response from the burner and LaCie now suggests I try to get help on lightscribe.com's discussion list! I am posting there but I'd greatly appreciate help from the computer guys and/or suggestions for other forums where I might get help. TIA * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] help please -LaCie lightscribe burner problem
You might try running chkdsk on your drive to see if software corruption is the culprit... db Eugene V Martin wrote: I have been unable to get a LaCie d2 lightscribe DVD/CD burner (20x, USB and firewire interfaces) to burn the label side. I have no problem recording data or audio, but both lightscribe labeler and disklabel report a communications problem preventing a label burn. I am using a 1.5GHz PowerPC G4 Powerbook with OS X 10.5. I have tried using different firewire cables and I have tried burning from another Mac, a G5 iMac, also using the 10.5.4 OS. Same result I have consulted LaCie's tech assistance and gone through several iterations of a process including trashing old files (apps and receipts), downloading new software, repairing permissions, and installing new burner and labeler software, etc. Nothing suggested by LaCie worked and they accepted the burner for repair; they said it worked for them, but they replaced the controller (circuitboard), and sent it back. But, I still have the same unsuccessful response from the burner and LaCie now suggests I try to get help on lightscribe.com's discussion list! I am posting there but I'd greatly appreciate help from the computer guys and/or suggestions for other forums where I might get help. TIA * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Help! Apple Mail Ghosts
I opened the Mail folder in my Home library, and dragged the INBOX.imapmbox folder to the desktop. Mail created another one, and the ghost messages remain, and the Messages folder with in the Inbox folder is empty. ...snip... 2) You should never allow any antivirus program to mess with your email data. The data structure managed by your email program is complicated. Your antivirus program hacked at it with no knowledge of how these files are managed. It deleted the contents of a mail file, but may not have deleted the file itself and it certainly did not adjust the index file to match. So the email program's index is pointing to a file that is empty or not there. Hence a ghost file. This is the best argument I've seen for avoiding Apple's Mail program--the data structure is complicated, as in OE. It's not so complicated in Mozilla's Thunderbird, so fewer things are likely to go wrong. I dumped Apple Mail ages ago after using it for only a couple of weeks. Went back and tried it again last week and dumped it again. Have you backed up your email files this month? week? ever? Do you know where the preference/data files are located? Betty * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Help! Apple Mail Ghosts
This is the best argument I've seen for avoiding Apple's Mail program--the data structure is complicated, as in OE. It's not so complicated in Mozilla's Thunderbird, so fewer things are likely to go wrong. I dumped Apple Mail ages ago after using it for only a couple of weeks. Went back and tried it again last week and dumped it again. Not fair and not correct. Thunderbird and Apple Mail do virtually the same thing in this regard. Thunderbird uses mbox format. Apple Mail uses emlx format. Emlx stores one message per file within folders and these files can be accessed via the Finder -- viewed directly using QuickView or a variety of other ways. Mbox has a number of variations, but typically stores one folder per file. Mbox files can be viewed in any text viewer. Both email programs maintain a separate index file. Apple used to use mbox and still labels many files with an mbox extension, even though they are not mbox. I don't know why they do that. Perhaps they consider emlx to be just a further development of mbox? It is similar enough that one could argue for this. I don't think the Apple Mail team possesses the sharpest pencils, but it is not a bad product. Thunderbird is better in some cases, but the feature sets are not identical. Either is a fine choice depending on circumstances. Either mbox or emlx are in sharp contrast to what MS does: storing all emails in one huge, fragile database file that is constantly hit with changes and hard to back up (due to its potentially huge size and frequent changes). I just spent 10 hours recovering 100s of lost messages from a 2.5 GB MS database file. It was a brutal job. I'm now looking at alternatives for my client. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Help! Apple Mail Ghosts
What version changed the way they do it? I have simply gone into the right directory and restored mailboxes in Outlook with out a problem. having sid that I do not use it and prefer Eudora, the old Eudora not the new one. Stewart At 09:11 AM 11/5/2008, you wrote: Not fair and not correct. Thunderbird and Apple Mail do virtually the same thing in this regard. Thunderbird uses mbox format. Apple Mail uses emlx format. Emlx stores one message per file within folders and these files can be accessed via the Finder -- viewed directly using QuickView or a variety of other ways. Mbox has a number of variations, but typically stores one folder per file. Mbox files can be viewed in any text viewer. Both email programs maintain a separate index file. Apple used to use mbox and still labels many files with an mbox extension, even though they are not mbox. I don't know why they do that. Perhaps they consider emlx to be just a further development of mbox? It is similar enough that one could argue for this. I don't think the Apple Mail team possesses the sharpest pencils, but it is not a bad product. Thunderbird is better in some cases, but the feature sets are not identical. Either is a fine choice depending on circumstances. Either mbox or emlx are in sharp contrast to what MS does: storing all emails in one huge, fragile database file that is constantly hit with changes and hard to back up (due to its potentially huge size and frequent changes). I just spent 10 hours recovering 100s of lost messages from a 2.5 GB MS database file. It was a brutal job. I'm now looking at alternatives for my client. Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Help! Apple Mail Ghosts
One of the reasons I like the old Eudora (7.1) Recently I had a major failure on my desktop system. I ran something stupid and it corrupted my C: drive. Since I had recently upgraded my drives I still had my old drive handy. Not having time to get to it, I got the old drive and attached it using an ID-USB cable to another system and copied the Email directory to that computer and ran my Eudora while I was working on the old system. When I was done fixing my unit, I copied the directory back onto the drive preserving all email and folders etc. and ran it on the fixed system. No email lost and no problems. I always keep my email in a separate directory (Folders and all) on a data drive, not the C: drive. Stewart At 10:24 AM 11/5/2008, you wrote: What version changed the way they do it? I have simply gone into the right directory and restored mailboxes in Outlook with out a problem. having sid that I do not use it and prefer Eudora, the old Eudora not the new one. Stewart Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Help! Apple Mail Ghosts
I have simply gone into the right directory and restored mailboxes in Outlook with out a problem. Nobody mentioned Outlook and with so many flavors of Outlook out there I don't have a clue about which Outlook you are referring to. Anyone want to clue us in to the formats various Outlooks use to store mailboxes. On the Exchange server my understanding is that they use one humongous and fragile database file. No? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Help! Apple Mail Ghosts
Thanks, David, I rebuilt the individual account inboxes and the ghosts vanished instantaneously! Gosh, that was simple! Why didn't I think of expanding the Inbox?! Alvin On Nov 4, 2008, at 2:43 AM, David K Watson wrote: You are right that you can't rebuild the inbox. However, expand the inbox (click on the right-pointing triangle next to the inbox) and you should be able to rebuild each of the single account inboxes under the main inbox. If you rebuilt all your inboxes and all of your other mailboxes, you'll get back some space and you won't have the mismatch between messages showing and actual messages as often. I also second the idea of checking your mail via the web. I remember once having a similar type of problem that was caused because the message on the server immediately before the ghost message was corrupted in a way that the mail server couldn't handle. If you can, log into your account on the web and try deleting the ghost messages there as well as anything preceding them that looks suspicious. If that doesn't work, I'd try again to move the messages out and rebuilding the mailbox. This time try it t for just those messages in the problem account, and keep holding the mouse down over the new location when dragging them over until you can see that Mail is ready to move them, because Mail can be very slow in moving a lot of messages. This is particularly true for mailboxes that haven't been rebuilt in a while. Mathew, Thanks for the idea, but when I try to move the messages, they just bounce back to the Inbox. Also, Mail doesn't allow the Inbox to be rebuilt (at least on my machine!). It would be interesting if it's allowable on someone else's machine. Alvin On Nov 3, 2008, at 8:17 PM, Matthew Taylor wrote: You might try moving all the messages out of the inbox into another local folder (you can always move them back if you want). With your inbox zeroed out, rebuild the mailbox. Use the web interface for your mail account to make certain the headers or entire messages are not still on the server - if they are, delete them there. Matthew On Nov 3, 2008, at 4:38 PM, Alvin Auerbach wrote: ClamXav 1.1.1 looked at Apple's Mail and found 2 incoming messages that were suspicious, and asked to delete them. I gave the okay, and the messages were moved to the computer's trash. However, the 2 messages are still listed in the Inbox. box. When I open them, they are blank - ghosts! When I delete them, they remain in the Inbox. When I drag them to another mailbox - Trash, Junk, anything, they remain in the Inbox. I used [command-delete]. Didn't work. I opened the Mail folder in my Home library, and dragged the INBOX.imapmbox folder to the desktop. Mail created another one, and the ghost messages remain, and the Messages folder with in the Inbox folder is empty. I checked Apple and Google, and found a problem like that with AOL mail, and the solution was to update the OS. Both my OS and my Mail program are the latest version. I found a reference to a similar problem, but their solution was to change the type of email account. Rebuild the Mailbox does not apply to the Inbox. I replaced the app from my Leopard disk. The message count is often wrong, but I ignored it. Is this a clue? I save most of my mail, and the size of my Mail folder is 1.45 GB. Is that a factor? Does anyone have any ideas on how to exorcise these ghost messages?! Alvin * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Help! Apple Mail Ghosts
Michael, Thanks for the ideas. I tried the previous suggestion first (from David K. Watson) and it worked. Alvin On Nov 4, 2008, at 2:46 AM, Michael Lewis wrote: Alvin Auerbach sez: Mathew, Thanks for the idea, but when I try to move the messages, they just bounce back to the Inbox. Also, Mail doesn't allow the Inbox to be rebuilt (at least on my machine!). It would be interesting if it's allowable on someone else's machine. Alvin Download OnyX for the Mac OS you have: http://www.titanium.free.fr/index_us.html According to the thread here http://www.tidbits.com/webx?14@@.3cb7a1fc/ 1 it has a selection to force a rebuild of all mailboxes. Check that thread as there may be some other tips you can try as well. -- Michael Lewis Off Balance Productions [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.offbalance.com * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Help! Apple Mail Ghosts
Tom, Thanks for your suggestions. I'll turn off ClamXav. David K Watson sez: You are right that you can't rebuild the inbox. However, expand the inbox (click on the right-pointing triangle next to the inbox) and you should be able to rebuild each of the single account inboxes under the main inbox. I tried it, and it worked. Alvin On Nov 4, 2008, at 9:20 PM, Tom Piwowar wrote: I opened the Mail folder in my Home library, and dragged the INBOX.imapmbox folder to the desktop. Mail created another one, and the ghost messages remain, and the Messages folder with in the Inbox folder is empty. 1) You should not run antivirus software on your Mac because there are no Mac viruses. What ClamXav spotted were Windows viruses at most. You have no reason to worry about them. They won't spread. 2) You should never allow any antivirus program to mess with your email data. The data structure managed by your email program is complicated. Your antivirus program hacked at it with no knowledge of how these files are managed. It deleted the contents of a mail file, but may not have deleted the file itself and it certainly did not adjust the index file to match. So the email program's index is pointing to a file that is empty or not there. Hence a ghost file. 3) Two problem messages out of 1.45 GB of messages. Why are you spending any time on this? The odds are that in messing with this you will make things much worse. I would leave it alone. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
