Re: [From xorcist offlist] Cloudflare & NoDAPL again w/ a ROTF

On Tue, Nov 05, 2019 at 03:46:11PM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On communication ... For those who use the cp archives, the original thread continues here: https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2016-September/062006.html

Re: [From xorcist offlist] Cloudflare & NoDAPL again w/ a ROTF

On communication ... On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 05:50:00AM -, xorc...@sigaint.org wrote: > > On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 14:35:31 - Juan wrote: ... > > Fine, So what's the cause/source of statism? =) > > Social mammals have a herd instinct, and more specifically humans > naturally select

Re: [From xorcist offlist] Cloudflare & NoDAPL again w/ a ROTF

On 09/25/2016 04:25 PM, xorc...@sigaint.org wrote: >> On Sun, 25 Sep 2016 10:32:22 - >>> >>> Does this mean we're breaking up? >> >> Life is terribly tragic sometimes. > > No, not a tragedy, just life. I find the best way to deal with a painful > breakup is to remember that if not for

Re: [From xorcist offlist] Cloudflare & NoDAPL again w/ a ROTF

> On Sun, 25 Sep 2016 10:32:22 - >> >> Does this mean we're breaking up? > > Life is terribly tragic sometimes. No, not a tragedy, just life. I find the best way to deal with a painful breakup is to remember that if not for the lows, the highs would not be as sweet; and that, with the

Re: [From xorcist offlist] Cloudflare & NoDAPL again w/ a ROTF

On Sun, 25 Sep 2016 10:32:22 - xorc...@sigaint.org wrote: > > On Sun, 25 Sep 2016 03:24:06 - > > I'm really fed up with you now =) > > Does this mean we're breaking up? Life is terribly tragic sometimes. > "The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two >

Re: [From xorcist offlist] Cloudflare & NoDAPL again w/ a ROTF

> On Sun, 25 Sep 2016 03:24:06 - > I'm really fed up with you now =) Does this mean we're breaking up? >> Oh, I disagree. You're at a computer, so you're sitting. And you most >> certainly are a baby. > > Ha ha ha. So funny. I thought so too. I notice that you clipped the part

Re: [From xorcist offlist] Cloudflare & NoDAPL again w/ a ROTF

On 09/25/2016 12:05 AM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: I'm not particularly interested in discussing the definition of "good" or the value of rationality, but this is interesting. > Here's a hint to everyone on still reading: > > Every sentence beginning with "if" (or similar, or that implicitly >

Re: [From xorcist offlist] Cloudflare & NoDAPL again w/ a ROTF

On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 08:51:18PM -0300, juan wrote: > On Sat, 24 Sep 2016 12:01:39 - > xorc...@sigaint.org wrote: > > > Because there are well organized 'minorities' who are able > > > to impose their views on the rest. > > > > But it isn't rational to allow a minority to impress its

Re: [From xorcist offlist] Cloudflare & NoDAPL again w/ a ROTF

> On Sat, 24 Sep 2016 12:01:39 - > Well, I don't. And what hat are you wearing now? The > manipulative emotionalist, or the cold 'scientific' thinker? I don't really care if you do, or don't. I have no vested interest in changing your mind. I'm simply stating my views, and

Re: [From xorcist offlist] Cloudflare & NoDAPL again w/ a ROTF

> On Thu, 22 Sep 2016 05:50:00 - > Psychiatry is radically different. Being 'mentally healthy' > simply means being 'well adapted' to a society of crazies. I get where you are coming from. I've often said, "Being well-adapted to a sick culture is no sign of health." > The

Re: [From xorcist offlist] Cloudflare & NoDAPL again w/ a ROTF

On Thu, 22 Sep 2016 05:50:00 - xorc...@sigaint.org wrote: > > On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 14:35:31 - > > Yes indeed. But there are very important differences between > > physics - a 'hard science', medicine which could be > > 'scientific' but since it deals with incredibly complex systems

Re: [From xorcist offlist] Cloudflare & NoDAPL again w/ a ROTF

On 09/21/2016 06:44 PM, John Newman wrote: > NLP is widely discredited pseudo-science crap. It works quite well on simple minded people. AKA "Useful Idiots". Rr > On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 09:36:53PM -0300, juan wrote: >>> The skills of illusion, and "mentalism" are quite real.. and if you

Re: [From xorcist offlist] Cloudflare & NoDAPL again w/ a ROTF

On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 09:36:53PM -0300, juan wrote: > > The skills of illusion, and "mentalism" are quite real.. and if you > > watch more of his stuff, especially the longer videos or full > > episodes where he breaks down the hows and whys of it working, > > perhaps you'll be less likely to

Re: [From xorcist offlist] Cloudflare & NoDAPL again w/ a ROTF

On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 23:10:27 - xorc...@sigaint.org wrote: > > However the idea that a professional seller of jewelry is > > going to make a big sale like that, without even COUNTING the bills > > because he had been chatted up with some nonsense about the > > subway system

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Ooops. Sent this to Juan offlist, but meant to copy the list on it too. > However the idea that a professional seller of jewelry is going > to make a big sale like that, without even COUNTING the bills > because he had been chatted up with some nonsense about the > subway

Re: [From xorcist offlist] Cloudflare & NoDAPL again w/ a ROTF

On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 04:59:14 - xorc...@sigaint.org wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 11:40:09PM -, xorc...@sigaint.org wrote: > > Now, here's your fallacy. Because we humans are of course acting > > rationally under pressure. Take Juan's give-me-your-money example: > > in order to

Re: [From xorcist offlist] Cloudflare & NoDAPL again w/ a ROTF

On Sep 21, 2016 2:29 AM, "Александр" wrote: > > oh oh oh... so much private information and WHAT an information we should start LAving you, xorcist. Just lAving you!!! What a holy man we got on the list... on day three he opens his hErt in front of all of us. I

Re: [From xorcist offlist] Cloudflare & NoDAPL again w/ a ROTF

On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 04:55:03 - xorc...@sigaint.org wrote: > >> You're like autistic or something. > > > > > > Sure. And being gay is a disease that is cured with > > electroshocks and lobotomies. > > > Hit a nerve, did I? Sorry. No judgments. You hit a nerve only in a

Re: [From xorcist offlist] Cloudflare & NoDAPL again w/ a ROTF

On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 05:10:24AM -, xorc...@sigaint.org wrote: > In fact, I'm not EVEN CIA, and I have a lot better things to do. I'm burnt > out lately, so I've been slacking. Wanna pony up some other TLA's? There's plenty of 'em :)

Re: [From xorcist offlist] Cloudflare & NoDAPL again w/ a ROTF

> > oh oh oh... so much private information and WHAT an information we > should start LAving you, xorcist. Just lAving you!!! What a holy man we > got Private? Fuck you're paranoid. I don't consider what I do for a living, or otherwise, private. My name, location, who I date.. those

Re: [From xorcist offlist] Cloudflare & NoDAPL again w/ a ROTF

2016-09-21 7:55 GMT+03:00 : > 1. I act as mentor for some cognitively disabled adults. Mostly in the way > of > helping them find coping strategies for their difficulties. Providing a > measure of friendship and companionship > > 2. I do this on top of my day job, which is in

Re: [From xorcist offlist] Cloudflare & NoDAPL again w/ a ROTF

> > Now, here's your fallacy. And, let me also say.. your description of the human thought process is all wrong. :) Consider it this way. When someone walks up to you, and sticks out their hand to shake hands.. you respond by reaching out and shaking hands. You're not processing it all the way

Re: [From xorcist offlist] Cloudflare & NoDAPL again w/ a ROTF

> 2016-09-21 3:33 GMT+03:00 juan : > > Oh... what a deadly punch/es, Juan! (one of) > The poor new CIA troll xorcist (substituting the SDW guy) starts to > understand why his fellow man (SDW) failed on the list with his cheap > US/antihuman pseudophilosophical propaganda. > :P

Re: [From xorcist offlist] Cloudflare & NoDAPL again w/ a ROTF

> On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 11:40:09PM -, xorc...@sigaint.org wrote: > Now, here's your fallacy. Because we humans are of course acting > rationally under pressure. Take Juan's give-me-your-money example: in > order to actually hand out your money you need to understand my > intentions, you need

Re: [From xorcist offlist] Cloudflare & NoDAPL again w/ a ROTF

>> You're like autistic or something. > > > Sure. And being gay is a disease that is cured with > electroshocks and lobotomies. Hit a nerve, did I? Sorry. No judgments. If its correct, it just means you just think differently. It's not even a big deal. For the purposes here, it just

Re: [From xorcist offlist] Cloudflare & NoDAPL again w/ a ROTF

On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 11:40:09PM -, xorc...@sigaint.org wrote: > But for real life, when you get beaten as a slave all day, it AFFECTS YOUR > THOUGHTS. > > When you work a dreary ass job, barely get enough sleep, having your very > dreams filled up with visions of monotonous days at work..

Re: [From xorcist offlist] Cloudflare & NoDAPL again w/ a ROTF

On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 02:33:10 - xorc...@sigaint.org wrote: > > On Tue, 20 Sep 2016 23:40:09 - > > xorc...@sigaint.org wrote: > > > > Dude, that has nothing to do with any 'group'. If you are an > > attacker, then your victims have every right to defend > > themselves. That's

Re: [From xorcist offlist] Cloudflare & NoDAPL again w/ a ROTF

On Tue, 20 Sep 2016 23:40:09 - xorc...@sigaint.org wrote: > > I don't want to put words in your mouth, but, are you > > 'implicitly' saying that slavery being right or wrong is a > > matter of 'cultural interpretation'? Or mostly a matter of > > 'interpretation'? > > Look,

Re: [From xorcist offlist] Cloudflare & NoDAPL again w/ a ROTF

> I don't want to put words in your mouth, but, are you > 'implicitly' saying that slavery being right or wrong is a > matter of 'cultural interpretation'? Or mostly a matter of > 'interpretation'? Look, I'm not arguing for moral relativity, which is basically what you're

Re: [From xorcist offlist] Cloudflare & NoDAPL again w/ a ROTF

On Mon, 19 Sep 2016 21:55:09 - xorc...@sigaint.org wrote: > > On Mon, 19 Sep 2016 02:43:08 - > > Do you think that slaves wanted to be slaves? And do you > > think that the people who enslaved them were not responsible for the > > enslavement? THAT is free wiil at work. > > > >

Re: [From xorcist offlist] Cloudflare & NoDAPL again w/ a ROTF

> On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 06:11:43PM -, xorc...@sigaint.org wrote: > We should probably imagine 10 year time frame, not 6 weeks :) I think more on the scale of 100 years, but yeah. 10 would be wonderful. > But even though it's difficult, without a core of belligerently > principled and

Re: [From xorcist offlist] Cloudflare & NoDAPL again w/ a ROTF

On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 05:18:03PM -0300, juan wrote: > On Mon, 19 Sep 2016 02:43:08 - > xorc...@sigaint.org wrote: > > > I'm not really following. No doubt we can find more than a > > > few instances of people acting like animals, but what of it? > > > > > > It's also true that people

Re: [From xorcist offlist] Cloudflare & NoDAPL again w/ a ROTF

On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 06:11:43PM -, xorc...@sigaint.org wrote: > >> You know, the main problem with anarchism is that there are no doctors > >> and engineers to speak of. > > > Guaranteed we could find at least a handful of "doctors and lawyers", > > who subscribe to at least some aspects

Re: [From xorcist offlist] Cloudflare & NoDAPL again w/ a ROTF

> On Mon, 19 Sep 2016 02:43:08 - > Do you think that slaves wanted to be slaves? And do you think > that the people who enslaved them were not responsible for the > enslavement? THAT is free wiil at work. > > "There are limits free will" is just a vague, irrelevant >

Re: [From xorcist offlist] Cloudflare & NoDAPL again w/ a ROTF

On Mon, 19 Sep 2016 13:21:23 +1000 Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > Eben Moglen should stand in politics. Linus Torvalds should stand in > the same party - wouldn't that be fun :) Torvalds? Torvalds should either learn the ABC of politics or stick to coding. And

Re: [From xorcist offlist] Cloudflare & NoDAPL again w/ a ROTF

> Does not matter if your seats of power are in a global hegemonic empire, > or merely the 12 seats on your local council, or some other system where > a "benevolent dictator is supposed to wield ulatimte authority" - by > "being too smart to get involved in politics", as you correctly point >

Re: [From xorcist offlist] Cloudflare & NoDAPL again w/ a ROTF

On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 01:04:28AM -, xorc...@sigaint.org wrote: > > On Sun, Sep 18, 2016 at 09:20:15PM -, xorc...@sigaint.org wrote: > >> > On Sun, 18 Sep 2016 16:22:44 - > >> > > We can hope for the occasional 'benevolent' dictator. They might be > > rare, but they occasionally get

Re: [From xorcist offlist] Cloudflare & NoDAPL again w/ a ROTF

On Mon, 19 Sep 2016 01:51:48 - xorc...@sigaint.org wrote: > > On Sun, 18 Sep 2016 21:20:15 - > > xorc...@sigaint.org wrote: > > I think, though I'm not completely sure, that there was a > > rather widespread opposition to the clipper chip, including > > opposition among more

Re: [From xorcist offlist] Cloudflare & NoDAPL again w/ a ROTF

> On Sun, 18 Sep 2016 21:20:15 - > xorc...@sigaint.org wrote: > I think, though I'm not completely sure, that there was a > rather widespread opposition to the clipper chip, including > opposition among more 'respectable' members of the > establishment. The same members

Re: [From xorcist offlist] Cloudflare & NoDAPL again w/ a ROTF

On 09/18/2016 10:22 AM, xorc...@sigaint.org wrote: >> Fwiw, for those who aren't aware... The point of trolls like this one, >> 'xorcist', and cyberpiggie et all is to stalk individuals posts on lists >> with garbage so people start to think, whenever the one being targeted >> posts, "Oh fuck that

Re: Cloudflare & NoDAPL again w/ a ROTF

On 09/18/2016 04:30 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On Sun, Sep 18, 2016 at 08:10:18AM -0700, Razer wrote: >> On 09/17/2016 10:36 PM, grarpamp wrote: >>> On Sun, Sep 18, 2016 at 1:17 AM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: usual activities of society, and not have to produce "papers

Re: [From xorcist offlist] Cloudflare & NoDAPL again w/ a ROTF

> On Sun, Sep 18, 2016 at 09:20:15PM -, xorc...@sigaint.org wrote: >> > On Sun, 18 Sep 2016 16:22:44 - >> >> "I tried being an anarchist but there are too many rules." > > Gold. > > :) Hah. Glad you got a kick out of it. That one got me laid once, in fact. > > We can hope for the

Re: [From xorcist offlist] Cloudflare & NoDAPL again w/ a ROTF

On Sun, 18 Sep 2016 21:20:15 - xorc...@sigaint.org wrote: > > On Sun, 18 Sep 2016 16:22:44 - > > So, how effective have your crypto techniques and tools been > > against the state? > > Depends on what your metric is, I suppose. But, I'd argue that absent > Matt Blaze's Clipper

Re: [From xorcist offlist] Cloudflare & NoDAPL again w/ a ROTF

On Sun, Sep 18, 2016 at 09:20:15PM -, xorc...@sigaint.org wrote: > > On Sun, 18 Sep 2016 16:22:44 - > > > Is that supposed to mean : only 'abuses' of power are a > > problem, not power per se? > > "I tried being an anarchist but there are too many rules." Gold. :) > Crypto

Re: Cloudflare & NoDAPL again w/ a ROTF

On Sun, Sep 18, 2016 at 08:10:18AM -0700, Razer wrote: > On 09/17/2016 10:36 PM, grarpamp wrote: > > On Sun, Sep 18, 2016 at 1:17 AM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > >> usual activities of society, and not have to produce "papers please" > > > > s/produce/obtain/ > > > > If one has

Re: [From xorcist offlist] Cloudflare & NoDAPL again w/ a ROTF

On Sun, 18 Sep 2016 16:22:44 - xorc...@sigaint.org wrote: > I remember when this list had posts from Assange and others on actual > cryptographic techniques and tools, So, how effective have your crypto techniques and tools been against the state? And what is

Re: [From xorcist offlist] Cloudflare & NoDAPL again w/ a ROTF

> Fwiw, for those who aren't aware... The point of trolls like this one, > 'xorcist', and cyberpiggie et all is to stalk individuals posts on lists > with garbage so people start to think, whenever the one being targeted > posts, "Oh fuck that means I'm gonna see all that shit from x...@xxx.xxx >

Re: [From xorcist offlist] Cloudflare & NoDAPL again w/ a ROTF

2016-09-18 18:31 GMT+03:00 Razer : > for those who aren't aware... The point of trolls like this one, > 'xorcist', and cyberpiggie et all is to stalk individuals posts on lists > with garbage so people start to think, whenever the one being targeted > posts, "Oh fuck that means

Re: [From xorcist offlist] Cloudflare & NoDAPL again w/ a ROTF

Replying through list b/c I don't want this scumbucket disruptor having a mail header from direct email to 'sigAint'. No 'pissing contest' necessary. Your email's blocked at the server buhbye troll. On 09/17/2016 09:32 PM, xorc...@sigaint.org wrote: > Taking this off-list, because it

Re: Cloudflare & NoDAPL again w/ a ROTF

On 09/17/2016 10:36 PM, grarpamp wrote: > On Sun, Sep 18, 2016 at 1:17 AM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: >> usual activities of society, and not have to produce "papers please" > > s/produce/obtain/ > > If one has no obligation to obtain, one cannot produce. > Most law forces one

Re: Cloudflare & NoDAPL again w/ a ROTF

On Sun, Sep 18, 2016 at 1:17 AM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > usual activities of society, and not have to produce "papers please" s/produce/obtain/ If one has no obligation to obtain, one cannot produce. Most law forces one to obtain (permission) under threat of paper duress, to

Re: Cloudflare & NoDAPL again w/ a ROTF

On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 08:54:09PM -0700, Razer wrote: > On 09/17/2016 08:46 PM, grarpamp wrote: > > On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 11:34 PM, Razer wrote: > >> Your older or passed relatives have number tattoos on their > >> bodies? Some of mine did. > > > > Some of mine didn't, for

Re: Cloudflare & NoDAPL again w/ a ROTF

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/17/2016 11:22 PM, xorc...@sigaint.org wrote: >> Myself, I'm MUCH happier with the way "the news" is today (with >> competition by the Internet, etc) than 20 years ago. Â I remember >> well how "the news media" misled the public with the Randy

Re: Cloudflare & NoDAPL again w/ a ROTF

On Sun, Sep 18, 2016 at 02:58:24AM +, jim bell wrote: > opportunity to sift through ALL of the news, rather than let the MSM > (mainstream media)  decide what little to show to us. That would be Main Stream Misinformers.

Re: Cloudflare & NoDAPL again w/ a ROTF

On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 11:34 PM, Razer wrote: > Been waiting a long time. Like waiting for the stars to align. My life > is a monkeywrench. Waiting is bullshit. Be the wrenches, bros. Even if your life is hard or shortened due to it, it's still what you believe. Tis no better

Re: Cloudflare & NoDAPL again w/ a ROTF

Well, lets look at both questions here: First, the Cloudflare part is simple: they offer more than DDOS protection. They can seemingly keep your site visible even if your site itself is down, they offer analytics, and so on. And lets not forget that they probably have some savvy salesmen that can

Re: Cloudflare & NoDAPL again w/ a ROTF

On 09/17/2016 08:16 PM, xorc...@sigaint.org wrote: >> >> Ah well you miss the point entirely. >> > .. >> Or maybe you should just stick to coding. > > lulz. > > Look, I am just trying to intimate that this isn't new, or especially > fucking different, from any other day. I don't get my panties

Re: Cloudflare & NoDAPL again w/ a ROTF

> > Ah well you miss the point entirely. > .. > Or maybe you should just stick to coding. lulz. Look, I am just trying to intimate that this isn't new, or especially fucking different, from any other day. I don't get my panties all in a bunch about normal shit. Yeah, there are front

Re: Cloudflare & NoDAPL again w/ a ROTF

On 09/17/2016 06:53 PM, xorc...@sigaint.org wrote: > I'm not aware of any "news aggregators" that aren't full of disinfo. It's > the nature of the beast. If you're automatically picking up stories and > spewing them back out, you're going to pick up a lot of shit along with > it. > > This is

Re: Cloudflare & NoDAPL again w/ a ROTF

I'm not aware of any "news aggregators" that aren't full of disinfo. It's the nature of the beast. If you're automatically picking up stories and spewing them back out, you're going to pick up a lot of shit along with it. This is one of the main reasons I don't really trust must of what I read,

Cloudflare & NoDAPL again w/ a ROTF

So this morning I saw the rumor again FB gleaned by a 'friend' from a radical-oriented news consolidator-regurgitator. **National guard troops are wielding guns at the NoDAPL protest in North Dakota and making arrests"** There ARE NO NATIONAL GUARD TROOPS ARRESTING PROTESTERS! So it got me