Re: [Emc-users] Axis -> EMCMOT -> Yaskawa SMC-2000

2017-08-24 Thread Jon Elson
On 08/24/2017 09:26 AM, Nicklas Karlsson wrote: I also have Yaskawa drives and motors but planned to replace drive. Encoder is three quadrature signal which is a little bit odd, third usually is zero. I have no time read are comment anything for a day or two. I think the scheme (I had some of

Re: [Emc-users] Chasing noise

2017-08-10 Thread Jon Elson
On 08/10/2017 03:33 PM, Les Newell wrote: Also, common mode chokes on the DC INPUT to the 7i29 might be of help. The 7i29 doesn't have any big reservoir capacitors on board. I was always taught that H bridges need a nice low impedance supply. Adding inductance doesn't strike me as being

Re: [Emc-users] Chasing noise

2017-08-10 Thread Jon Elson
On 08/10/2017 11:09 AM, Les Newell wrote: I have been chasing a noise problem on my lathe for some time now. I am using a 7i29 2kw drive and am getting a lot of noise on the encoders, even with filtering enabled at a pretty low frequency. I have tried just about everything I can think of. I ma

Re: [Emc-users] Fwd: Re: Using laser time of flight sensor to home mill

2017-08-09 Thread Jon Elson
On 08/09/2017 04:31 PM, Dan Bloomquist wrote: jeremy youngs wrote: My ignorance may land my foot in my mouth , but if it has absolute glass scales and they are being read why is there a need to home? Hi Jeremy, The glass is relative, not absolute. Yea, it would be a whole different world wi

Re: [Emc-users] Fwd: Re: Using laser time of flight sensor to home mill

2017-08-09 Thread Jon Elson
On 08/09/2017 04:16 PM, jeremy youngs wrote: My ignorance may land my foot in my mouth , but if it has absolute glass scales and they are being read why is there a need to home? Homing gives you at least two advantages. One is that after homing, the machine limits of travel can be checked aga

Re: [Emc-users] Using laser time of flight sensor to home mill

2017-08-09 Thread Jon Elson
On 08/09/2017 12:53 PM, Dan Bloomquist wrote: Ok, so maybe I'm over thinking this. So I should just mount switches in the centers, make sure I'm jogged close to a known side on start up, and just home on them. Yup, that's how it is set up on my Bridgeport. The X trip bar is in the center, and

Re: [Emc-users] Using laser time of flight sensor to home mill

2017-08-09 Thread Jon Elson
On 08/09/2017 10:38 AM, Dan Bloomquist wrote: I know how accurate this thing is. The idea is that I can start up without hunting switches. Why is that such a big deal? LinuxCNC now can do all axes with the press of ONE button! I really don't see the need for exotic and possibly finicky senso

Re: [Emc-users] Using laser time of flight sensor to home mill

2017-08-08 Thread Jon Elson
On 08/08/2017 08:42 PM, Dan Bloomquist wrote: I have not set homing up on my mill yet, I've been mulling it over. A switch is not satisfying unless there is a way to keep from hunting for it, can't imagine... If you have encoders with index, that can set the home position to an exact encoder

Re: [Emc-users] Question on Z backlash vs rigid tapping

2017-08-04 Thread Jon Elson
On 08/03/2017 09:52 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Thursday 03 August 2017 06:54:02 andy pugh wrote: You probably want CBN (or conventional abrasive) for HSS. Diamond is Carbon. Carbon dissolves in steel. At room temps? The local temperature where the diamond hits the metal is likely NOT to be

Re: [Emc-users] Cylinder Boring

2017-08-01 Thread Jon Elson
On 08/01/2017 12:41 PM, Kirk Wallace wrote: I rescued (loosely applied term) this compressor as it was being loaded on a neighbor's truck on its way to the dump: http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/Sears_Compressor2/ It seems to be in decent shape except the cylinder bores. The plan is

Re: [Emc-users] Pi performance bottlenecks [Was: configuration via Gschem]

2017-07-22 Thread Jon Elson
On 07/22/2017 11:01 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: It may have been, were I will to learn a new program. New program? Machinekit IS LinuxCNC, at least as far as the g-code end of things is. HAL is the same, Linux is the same. There are significant differences in rtapi, but few venture into there. I

Re: [Emc-users] NML communication

2017-07-22 Thread Jon Elson
On 07/22/2017 03:26 AM, Frederic RIBLE wrote: On 22/07/2017 03:58, Nicklas Karlsson wrote: With 0MQ protocol ? Yes, that is BeagleBone Black and ZeroMQ. I agree, 7" screen is too small. Have you checked out Touchy? It actually is quite usable on a 7" touch screen. You do have to have a run a

Re: [Emc-users] NML communication --> Raspberry

2017-07-20 Thread Jon Elson
On 07/20/2017 07:19 AM, Les Newell wrote: From what I research I have done the Raspberry is more than a little problematic. The Beagle Bone seems to be the board of choice for Machinekit. I looked into this and came to the conclusion it is too much work for no real gain. You can get small Inte

Re: [Emc-users] NML communication

2017-07-20 Thread Jon Elson
On 07/20/2017 07:14 AM, Nicklas Karlsson wrote: On Thu, 20 Jul 2017 12:53:15 +0100 Les Newell wrote: I tried Machinekit fairly recently and managed to run GUI and control on separate simulated machines but it was a little flaky. 0MQ is pretty new, NML have been there for a long while. My un

Re: [Emc-users] NML communication

2017-07-19 Thread Jon Elson
On 07/19/2017 08:08 PM, Nicklas Karlsson wrote: On 07/20/2017 09:35 AM, andy pugh wrote: On 19 July 2017 at 19:34, Nicklas Karlsson wrote: I have read thru the documentation and do not find it. I don't know if they have documentation. That's why you were told to talk to them or look at their

Re: [Emc-users] NML communication

2017-07-19 Thread Jon Elson
On 07/19/2017 04:35 PM, andy pugh wrote: On 19 July 2017 at 19:34, Nicklas Karlsson wrote: I have read thru the documentation and do not find it. I don't know if they have documentation. That's why you were told to talk to them or look at their code. I think that they were planning to replace

Re: [Emc-users] NML communication

2017-07-19 Thread Jon Elson
On 07/19/2017 01:34 PM, Nicklas Karlsson wrote: HAL spans the divide and lets realtime and non-realtime components talk to each other easily. HAL is currently not network-transparent, so components on one computer can't make HAL net connections to components on a different computer. This may or

Re: [Emc-users] NML communication

2017-07-19 Thread Jon Elson
On 07/19/2017 10:47 AM, Nicklas Karlsson wrote: ... HAL spans the divide and lets realtime and non-realtime components talk to each other easily. HAL is currently not network-transparent, so components on one computer can't make HAL net connections to components on a different computer. This may

Re: [Emc-users] configuration via Gschem

2017-07-15 Thread Jon Elson
On 07/15/2017 10:57 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: The .png cannot be zoomed to inspect details, but for 2 days work, looks better than I expected. And thats encouraging. Are you intending to be able to translate an existing, working config into this, and to be able to take this back to working .ini +

Re: [Emc-users] configuration via Gschem

2017-07-15 Thread Jon Elson
On 07/15/2017 10:47 AM, Todd Zuercher wrote: Not that I understand exactly what you're doing, but it does look very interesting. If you are interested I am sure we could contribute some rather complicated configuration examples for you to play around with for testing. (I know Gene has some d

Re: [Emc-users] Video for rare applications of linux cnc

2017-07-08 Thread Jon Elson
On 07/08/2017 03:19 AM, Javier Ros wrote: Hi, There was a thread looking for rare applications of linux cnc Here's a screen printer in Brazil that uses our Universal Stepper Controller and EMC2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RH_H7jgQQY I gather they are doing architectural panels with it

Re: [Emc-users] Maybe we don't need rtai anymore?

2017-07-04 Thread Jon Elson
On 07/04/2017 05:22 PM, sam sokolik wrote: Well - I have been playing with debian stretch and 4.9.0-3-rt kernel. I booted our matsuura (j1900 quad core) which with no tweeking has aprox 100us latency. (it has been running mesa ethernet cards with rt_preempt - no issues) Next I booted it

Re: [Emc-users] Sluggish Intel Atom DN2800MT motherboard

2017-07-03 Thread Jon Elson
On 07/03/2017 03:38 PM, tom-...@bgp.nu wrote: My new-old Intel DN2800MT motherboard is a bit sluggish on my Emco. I helped it a bit by disabling Hyperthreading in the bios and setting ISOLCPUS=1 in Grub. But I have a vague recollection of needing to do something related to the graphics drive

Re: [Emc-users] Soft limits with non-cartesian kinematics

2017-07-03 Thread Jon Elson
On 07/03/2017 03:02 PM, Les Newell wrote: Aw hell, I've done it again. My fault. I didn't realize there were two sets of limits. My config was automatically converted to the new format and I didn't notice limits appear in two places now. When I changed my limits I ended up only changing the jo

Re: [Emc-users] Rough motion with servos

2017-06-30 Thread Jon Elson
On 06/30/2017 11:45 AM, Peter C. Wallace wrote: This does show that a relatively small quadrature error causes a large velocity modulation is the relative time between edge changes so much Good encoders have very close to 50% duty cycle on the individual A and B outputs, at least when new.

Re: [Emc-users] Interp problems?

2017-06-29 Thread Jon Elson
On 06/29/2017 10:43 PM, dave wrote: On 06/25/2017 12:32 PM, Jon Elson wrote: On 06/25/2017 09:21 AM, dave wrote: .warning: gcode exceeds machine limits. I classically set my limits at -.2 ..18, -.2, ..9 and 0 ... -3. Moving to -9 ... 9, -4 ... 4 for x and y and it still gave me

Re: [Emc-users] Backlash comp, does it follow sign of encoder (input) scale?

2017-06-29 Thread Jon Elson
On 06/29/2017 06:31 PM, Tom Easterday wrote: Should the backlash parameter in the .ini file be positive or have the sign of the input_scale (aka encoder scale)? I don't see anything in the docs regarding this but did find a brief forum post that suggested it should have the same sign. I have

Re: [Emc-users] Bull Nose Cutters

2017-06-29 Thread Jon Elson
On 06/29/2017 06:23 PM, andy pugh wrote: On 29 June 2017 at 23:38, Ben Potter wrote: A few others who sell them in the uk include: shop-apt.co.uk (I tend to use for el-cheapo cutters) cutwel.co.uk (use for my better cutters at home) wnt.com (I use at work) Thanks. And, unless cutting somet

Re: [Emc-users] Rough motion with servos

2017-06-29 Thread Jon Elson
On 06/29/2017 03:59 PM, Les Newell wrote: Do you have and raw-write encoder filter tweaking stuff in the hal file: No. For testing purposes I am running the barest minimum needed to achieve motion using a config generated by pncconf. After spending a lot of time playing with halscope I hav

Re: [Emc-users] Rough motion with servos

2017-06-29 Thread Jon Elson
On 06/29/2017 10:20 AM, Les Newell wrote: Well, some progress figuring out what is going on. I just ran some more tests using Ubuntu 16.04 with a freshly built preempt-rt kernel and freshly built Git master. No surprise, it still shows the fault. I took a Halscope log from the original setup.

[Emc-users] MP Jones has 1/4" helical slit couplers for $1.95

2017-06-29 Thread Jon Elson
Just wanted to let everybody know about this deal: Part # 33615 HD http://www.mpja.com/06-29-17.asp?r=129492&s=16 The on line store shows $2.95, you might have to use discount code "email SA". Jon -- Check out th

Re: [Emc-users] Rough motion with servos

2017-06-28 Thread Jon Elson
On 06/28/2017 03:50 AM, Les Newell wrote: OK, Tried the usual reseating components etc and that PC does not want to play. I found a Dell SFF PC in the junk pile. After hacking it to take a full size PCI card I fired it up. Running my old Debian + LinuxCNC 2.6.0 it runs smooth. Latency jitter i

Re: [Emc-users] Rough motion with servos

2017-06-27 Thread Jon Elson
On 06/27/2017 03:06 PM, Les Newell wrote: Hmm, looks like that was a red herring. The problem is back. I can't do any more testing because the pixies inside the old computer finally abandoned ship and it now no longer boots. Doesn't even post. My priority now is going to be to find a box that

Re: [Emc-users] Rough motion with servos

2017-06-27 Thread Jon Elson
On 06/27/2017 10:31 AM, Les Newell wrote: Same PC, same hardware, same settings. The only difference between the two setups is the hard drive. Changing the PC (AMD processor VS Intel on the original) had no effect on the symptoms. I checked latency on the new PC and if I remember correctly wor

Re: [Emc-users] Rough motion with servos

2017-06-27 Thread Jon Elson
On 06/27/2017 09:01 AM, Les Newell wrote: I have been running my lathe using EMC for many years and decided to upgrade to the latest LinuxCNC. The computer I am using is showing it's age and the ancient version of Debian I have been running won't even boot properly on my new computer. The la

Re: [Emc-users] Interp problems?

2017-06-25 Thread Jon Elson
On 06/25/2017 06:51 PM, andy pugh wrote: On 25 June 2017 at 15:21, dave wrote: I suspect that this is a thermal problem Whereas I consider the idea that it is a _Computer_ thermal problem almost inconceivable. Yes, for a CPU to foul up ONLY the counting of one axis in ONE direction seems

Re: [Emc-users] Interp problems?

2017-06-25 Thread Jon Elson
On 06/25/2017 09:21 AM, dave wrote: .warning: gcode exceeds machine limits. I classically set my limits at -.2 ..18, -.2, ..9 and 0 ... -3. Moving to -9 ... 9, -4 ... 4 for x and y and it still gave me the same error message. and yes I shutdown linuxcnc and restarted homing on the

Re: [Emc-users] Interp problems?

2017-06-25 Thread Jon Elson
On 06/25/2017 12:44 PM, dave wrote: Multiple problems: Having cooled off the shop a bit the limits violation seems to have gone away for now. We'll see what later in the day brings. BTW the limit violations were consistent between axis and tklinuxcnc. Multiple passes thru a small routine

Re: [Emc-users] Interp problems?

2017-06-25 Thread Jon Elson
On 06/24/2017 06:20 PM, dave wrote: Thanks Jon, Tried that earlier in the day and didn't get anything. Just tried it again and what to my wondering eyes ... axis. :-) Still struggling with the interface but it seems to be giving me the same errors as tk. I can't quite figure out how I can be

Re: [Emc-users] Interp problems?

2017-06-24 Thread Jon Elson
On 06/24/2017 03:52 PM, dave wrote: ps. In desperation I would try axis (again) but clicking on the sample configurations doesn't fill in the tree. 'a' and 'b' existed with the Duron also but I've never been this stalled. Pick any config that you like, and open the xxx.ini file in an ed

Re: [Emc-users] following error only while homing

2017-06-21 Thread Jon Elson
On 06/21/2017 12:15 PM, Peter C. Wallace wrote: A step in the FB position from the encoder and an attempt at an impossible step in the commanded stepgen position... All the complexities / workrounds of this position step on index could be avoided if support for encoder counter that can onl

Re: [Emc-users] following error only while homing

2017-06-21 Thread Jon Elson
On 06/20/2017 10:15 AM, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: On 06/20/2017 08:52 AM, Chris Radek wrote: On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 09:27:46AM +0100, andy pugh wrote: Now, this is perfectly normal, and with a servo / pid machine the system knows to ignore the f-error immediately after an encoder reset. Wh

Re: [Emc-users] following error only while homing

2017-06-20 Thread Jon Elson
On 06/20/2017 09:52 AM, Chris Radek wrote: On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 09:27:46AM +0100, andy pugh wrote: Now, this is perfectly normal, and with a servo / pid machine the system knows to ignore the f-error immediately after an encoder reset. What is puzzling me here is why it isn't working in this

Re: [Emc-users] following error only while homing

2017-06-20 Thread Jon Elson
On 06/20/2017 09:03 AM, Tom Easterday wrote: Is there a parameter I can tweak after it happens in order to clear the fault (e.g. can I clear the ferror value) ? I can then try to home again... PID error should be recomputed every servo cycle. If PID error remains at a large value, then it me

Re: [Emc-users] following error only while homing

2017-06-20 Thread Jon Elson
On 06/20/2017 08:00 AM, Tom Easterday wrote: Andy, you are correct it is related to using index. Homing works fine if I don't use index. The encoder reset makes sense as to why it CAN happen (but shouldn't be). Is this just a bug? I would try to home a second time but as Todd says, I can't

Re: [Emc-users] following error only while homing

2017-06-20 Thread Jon Elson
On 06/20/2017 07:13 AM, Todd Zuercher wrote: I wish that were true. For some reason my analog servo machine trips up and sets a following error on an axis about 25% of the time when trying to home to index for the first time after turning on LInuxcnc. (Almost every time since it is a 4 axis

Re: [Emc-users] following error only while homing

2017-06-20 Thread Jon Elson
On 06/20/2017 03:27 AM, andy pugh wrote: On 20 June 2017 at 03:51, wrote: Why would I get a following error only while homing I think it is probably because you are using HOME_USE_INDEX (which will zero the encoder at the index pulse) and feeding the encoder feedback back into LinuxCNC. Now

Re: [Emc-users] EMC traffic

2017-06-20 Thread Jon Elson
On 06/20/2017 02:50 AM, Erik Christiansen wrote: Incidentally, I've found that the Postscript printer language is sorta almost like gcode on steroids. Fighting with a GUI drawing package gives me chest pains, without producing useful output, so I've just finished drawing floorplans, elevations

Re: [Emc-users] Things are quiet

2017-06-19 Thread Jon Elson
On 06/19/2017 07:24 PM, jim wrote: I need my machine to move On a 10 degree line using the x y axis . I see g codes for this on other systems . Can Linuxcnc do this? Sure. G01 X0 Y0 G01 X10 Y1.736 If you want to actually program it in degrees, that can be done. Also, the advanced G-cod

Re: [Emc-users] LCNC TED Talk style

2017-06-15 Thread Jon Elson
On 06/15/2017 06:10 PM, Ralph Stirling wrote: I don't believe Robert Ellenberg's PhD thesis was related to his LinuxCNC motion planner work. His thesis title is: "A Stability-Estimator to Unify Humanoid Locomotion: Walking, Stair-Climbing and Ladder-Climbing" The link to it is: https://idea.lib

Re: [Emc-users] LCNC TED Talk style

2017-06-15 Thread Jon Elson
On 06/15/2017 09:15 AM, dave wrote: Can someone find a video of the guy from Finland (vistuers ???) and his mig welding of pipe T's? It has been a while and I can't even find an email address. Viesturs Lacis : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSQO3IkQ0Lo Jon -

Re: [Emc-users] LCNC TED Talk style

2017-06-15 Thread Jon Elson
On 06/15/2017 09:15 AM, dave wrote: Can someone find a video of the guy from Finland (vistuers ???) and his mig welding of pipe T's? It has been a while and I can't even find an email address. Oh, you should contact Matt Shaver. We worked on an aborted project to weld pipes in situ. If we ha

Re: [Emc-users] LCNC TED Talk style

2017-06-15 Thread Jon Elson
On 06/15/2017 02:46 AM, Sven Wesley wrote: I would love to show a video or photos of the Beagle setup, do you have any? I guess I could get some pics of my CRAMPS test fixture with the Beagle Bone. Not sure that would really interest anybody. Jon ---

Re: [Emc-users] LCNC TED Talk style

2017-06-15 Thread Jon Elson
On 06/15/2017 02:46 AM, Sven Wesley wrote: I would love to show a video or photos of the Beagle setup, do you have any? No, but I believe Charles Steinkuehler does have some videos. He would certainly know. Can someone please point me the to Robert's trajectory planner? His trajectory planne

Re: [Emc-users] LCNC TED Talk style

2017-06-14 Thread Jon Elson
On 06/14/2017 11:25 AM, Sven Wesley wrote: RUGBOT!!! :D That is so nerdy I must show it! And of course Chris' jukebox for the finale. :) Anyone with a Raspberry or a Beagle? Would be perfect to show the wide range. Think Raspberry CNC and the Stuart's monster. I manufacture the CRAMPS board that

Re: [Emc-users] LCNC TED Talk style

2017-06-14 Thread Jon Elson
On 06/14/2017 04:32 AM, Sven Wesley wrote: Friends! I've been asked to do a 25 min catchy speech for approx 100 super skilled developers on a tech conference. They want to break the standard What-you-can-do-with-this-cool-framework lectures and show something completely different. I'm thinking,

Re: [Emc-users] tach/generator/encoder

2017-06-06 Thread Jon Elson
On 06/06/2017 12:36 PM, jeremy youngs wrote: Isolated, as in opto isolator on the bob ? Thank you The speed command is an analog voltage, so a simple optoisolator won't work. There are isolated spindle speed controllers that use a PWM scheme on an optoisolator and then convert to voltage on

Re: [Emc-users] tach/generator/encoder

2017-06-06 Thread Jon Elson
On 06/06/2017 09:31 AM, jeremy youngs wrote: Good day folks. Im waiting for ebay to drop this at my door https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://spectechind.com/Documents/KB/KBMG-212D-manual.pdf&ved=0ahUKEwjM6aSAtqnUAhUG3IMKHcT_CUgQFggqMAA&usg=AFQjCNGFBaUXQadurcokpyECREPoUQtv-

Re: [Emc-users] won't start on line 310 (run from here)

2017-06-06 Thread Jon Elson
On 06/05/2017 03:56 PM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: Gentlemen, Debian Wheezy latest linuxcnc release - installed today - but the last release did the same thing Axis interface Kasuga 3 axis mill when starting (run from here) on line 310 I get the error "length of cutter compensation entry move is n

Re: [Emc-users] Question on thread geometry

2017-06-04 Thread Jon Elson
On 06/04/2017 09:13 PM, tom-...@bgp.nu wrote: This is a G76 canned cycle and I usually enter 1 (sometimes 2) spring passes. The spring pass(es) take no material so this isn’t a deflection problem. My theoretical thread depth was 0.0255. I ended up needing to set it to 0.0280, but once set i

Re: [Emc-users] Question on thread geometry

2017-06-04 Thread Jon Elson
On 06/04/2017 08:56 PM, Jon Elson wrote: On 06/04/2017 08:22 PM, tom-...@bgp.nu wrote: I have to increase the depth a couple thou and re-cut the thread to cut it deep enough. Due to machine spring as well as workpiece deflection, a second pass without even changing the X depth will take

Re: [Emc-users] Question on thread geometry

2017-06-04 Thread Jon Elson
On 06/04/2017 08:22 PM, tom-...@bgp.nu wrote: I have to increase the depth a couple thou and re-cut the thread to cut it deep enough. Due to machine spring as well as workpiece deflection, a second pass without even changing the X depth will take off some material. So, if you turn it down,

Re: [Emc-users] Lubrication system

2017-06-04 Thread Jon Elson
On 06/04/2017 02:15 PM, Nicklas Karlsson wrote: Anyone who some experience with central lubrication system? It is an old machine. There is a bowl filled with grease connected to a row of pneumatic valves so I guess the grease is supposed to enter this block. There is also plenty of tubes conn

Re: [Emc-users] CC-Link emc2

2017-05-26 Thread Jon Elson
On 05/26/2017 10:42 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Friday 26 May 2017 09:09:12 theman whosoldtheworld wrote: So I try to subcribe as CLPA member ok software is open ... private use is ok ... for businnes tecnology use you pay at minimum €1000,0 per year ... SO I think is not so interesting for

Re: [Emc-users] Forum down?

2017-05-24 Thread Jon Elson
On 05/24/2017 03:48 PM, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: > I see in the logs that there was a period of high web > activity, starting about 15:09 EDT and ending just > recently, at 16:40 EDT. During that time the machine > exhausted its 1 GB of RAM and went 2 GB into swap, which > causes very high la

Re: [Emc-users] Installing On Older Computer

2017-05-11 Thread Jon Elson
On 05/11/2017 12:28 PM, Todd Zuercher wrote: > - Original Message - >> From: "Jon Elson" >> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" >> Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 12:58:08 PM >> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Installing On Older Computer &g

Re: [Emc-users] Installing On Older Computer

2017-05-11 Thread Jon Elson
On 05/10/2017 10:22 PM, Todd Zuercher wrote: > Latency is fine with Lucid(RTAI). With Wheezy(RTAI) the > latency test will not even open, it just hangs with > nothing coming up in the terminal window, but the pc > itself still keeps going (can open other programs). OK, there's the problem. Some

Re: [Emc-users] Installing On Older Computer

2017-05-10 Thread Jon Elson
On 05/10/2017 04:58 PM, Todd Zuercher wrote: > > That is what I am afraid of. But I had not seen any definitive "Yes we've > killed it" answer on the subject. A quick google seems to imply that Debian > still supports ISA, but... > > Does that machine have hyperthreading? If so, turn it off,

Re: [Emc-users] about to give up on the pi's

2017-05-04 Thread Jon Elson
On 05/03/2017 11:36 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Wednesday 03 May 2017 23:44:02 Jon Elson wrote: > >> On 05/03/2017 09:28 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: >>> The killer in the beaglebone soup is the cost of the "capes". You've >>> over $200 plus psu's et

Re: [Emc-users] about to give up on the pi's

2017-05-03 Thread Jon Elson
On 05/03/2017 09:28 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > The killer in the beaglebone soup is the cost of the "capes". You've over > $200 plus psu's etc before it can turn 2 motors at the same time. Umm, the CRAMPS board is $79.95, and I sell the 8825 drivers for $5 each, but I get them from China for abou

Re: [Emc-users] about to give up on the pi's

2017-05-03 Thread Jon Elson
On 05/03/2017 09:02 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Sure, but whats the bandwidth of a parport? 50 kilobaud equ maybe. Actually, 500 K bytes/second is easy on a standard parport, today. Jon -- Check out the vibrant tech comm

Re: [Emc-users] about to give up on the pi's

2017-05-03 Thread Jon Elson
On 05/03/2017 02:22 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > Greetings; > > What x86 board, suitably small but not that outpriced yudoo thingy, will > run linuxcnc well AND can do the spi thing? > > Cheers, Gene Heskett Well, the various versions of the Beagle Bone run the Machinekit fork of LinuxCNC fairly well

Re: [Emc-users] Forum down?

2017-04-30 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/29/2017 04:26 PM, Jon Elson wrote: And, it seems to be back up! Thanks, Jon -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/sla

Re: [Emc-users] Forum down?

2017-04-29 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/29/2017 03:40 PM, andy pugh wrote: > On 29 April 2017 at 21:24, Bengt Sjölund wrote: >> unable to log since afternoon local time > http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/forum.linuxcnc.org > > I also can't get in. > Ah, yes, the FORUM is down, the rest of the web site is up. Jon --

Re: [Emc-users] Way OT, Unexpected Result from Refrigerator

2017-04-27 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/27/2017 12:17 PM, Todd Zuercher wrote: > > Has less to do with snobbery, than the obscenely huge fines levied by the EPA > against those caught dealing with the "uncertified". > > Yes, but I wanted to buy a capacitor, not refrigerant. Oh, well... Jon -

Re: [Emc-users] Timing Belt?

2017-04-18 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/18/2017 10:01 AM, Todd Zuercher wrote: > Is it possible to connect two shafts at 90degrees to each other with a timing > belt? > W. M. Berg (now assimilated into Stock Drive Products/Sterling Instruments) used to have a whole line of tricky "belts" for these special cases. Generally, they

Re: [Emc-users] Milling Aluminum.

2017-04-13 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/13/2017 12:44 PM, Todd Zuercher wrote: > > But I'm cutting out a 2ft x 3ft window. It would be silly to pocket fill > that entire thing. Yes, that is something I do all the time. I call it trepanning, and I have programs to do that, also. However, there's no way to avoid the first cut a

Re: [Emc-users] Milling Aluminum.

2017-04-13 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/13/2017 10:19 AM, Kirk Wallace wrote: > On 04/13/2017 08:04 AM, andy pugh wrote: >> On 13 April 2017 at 15:41, Todd Zuercher >> wrote: >>> Suggestions on where I should go from here? >> Download Fusion360 and get a real trochoidal milling path. >> > It should not be terr

Re: [Emc-users] Milling Aluminum.

2017-04-13 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/13/2017 09:41 AM, Todd Zuercher wrote: > Here I go again. Unfortunately, the aluminum jig was a big hit, and now they > want more. So I thought I'd take a crack at a trochoirdal milling path. My > first try gave mixed results. Looking for advice. > My CAM software still doesn't have a t

Re: [Emc-users] OT: analog to step/dir

2017-04-13 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/13/2017 05:39 AM, andy pugh wrote: > On 13 April 2017 at 01:53, Eric Keller wrote: >>USDigital used to have something called an >> "EPOT" but they got rid of it for some reason. > https://tinyurl.com/ke75fzx any good? > No, not a digital pot, he wants a device that puts out step/directi

Re: [Emc-users] excedrin headache number is an integer overflow

2017-04-13 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/12/2017 09:08 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Took a while, but I found one, and the bearings are on page 119. Amazon > sent me B-1412-OH;PB;L125's which are 1.125" OD, when the x-ref should > have pointed at a BH-1412-OH;PB;L125, which is the correct 1.1875" OD. Ugh, hate companies that have dif

Re: [Emc-users] Way OT, Unexpected Result from Refrigerator

2017-04-12 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/12/2017 08:58 AM, Kirk Wallace wrote: > On 04/11/2017 11:17 AM, Dave Cole wrote: >> Kirk, >> >> Go online and get your refrigerant license. >> I did that years ago and I think it was $35 or so and it makes you legit >> so you can buy parts and stuff from local HVAC houses. Yes, the EPA "green

Re: [Emc-users] Way OT, Unexpected Result from Refrigerator

2017-04-11 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/11/2017 07:50 PM, Gregg Eshelman wrote: > Isn't he the guy who used to pour liquid oxygen on cheap BBQ grills? Yes, this **IS** that same George Goble! Apparently, these antics are forever over on order of the fire marshall. They threatened him with arrest for creating terrorist explosives

Re: [Emc-users] Way OT, Unexpected Result from Refrigerator

2017-04-11 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/11/2017 12:32 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > If you have a slow leak with R-12 in it, putting R-134a in > it will probably let you hear the leak, its a much smaller > molecule and can get out of a leak R-12 can't. R-134a also > operates best at 2-3x the high side pressure R-12 works > best at.

Re: [Emc-users] Way OT, Unexpected Result from Refrigerator

2017-04-11 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/11/2017 09:49 AM, Kirk Wallace wrote: > Oops, after more thought, "You wouldn't want to put R-134a > in it." doesn't necessarily mean stick with the R-12, but > there may be a better alternative. I'll have to work on > this some more. Look up George Goble of Purdue. he developed several

Re: [Emc-users] AMC seems to have removed all legacy manuals in last couple of days

2017-04-10 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/10/2017 08:32 PM, Ken Strauss wrote: > Have you checked archive.org for captured copies? > > It turns out the manuals are still there, but you can't get to them from the product selector. But, if you go in through the document search, and know the part numbers, they still come up. I down

[Emc-users] AMC seems to have removed all legacy manuals in last couple of days

2017-04-10 Thread Jon Elson
I just noticed that AMC (Advanced Motion Controls) seems to have pulled all their legacy servo amp manuals from their web site in the last week. NOT a great discovery! Jon -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one

Re: [Emc-users] Way OT, Unexpected Result from Refrigerator

2017-04-10 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/10/2017 05:47 AM, Roland Jollivet wrote: > Intriguing. > But.. you can burn out the compressor if you run with no or little gas, as > the compressor itself cannot dissipate sufficient heat. It needs gas to > carry the heat away to the condensor. The condensor is part of the cooling > system f

Re: [Emc-users] Way OT, Unexpected Result from Refrigerator

2017-04-10 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/09/2017 11:16 PM, Kirk Wallace wrote: > I recently verified that the > thermostat works and that the compressor is basically on all of the > time. I got to thinking this is a waste of electricity for something > that barely works, Yes, you really should replace it. Refrigerators that are

Re: [Emc-users] CPU clock speed [Was: for PCW?]

2017-04-08 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/08/2017 07:09 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Saturday 08 April 2017 19:42:26 Jon Elson wrote: > >> On 04/08/2017 01:51 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: >>> I need to go to tsc or somewhere, wallies maybe, and get >>> me some of those 3 to 2 electrical adaptors as I just

Re: [Emc-users] CPU clock speed [Was: for PCW?]

2017-04-08 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/08/2017 01:51 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > I need to go to tsc or somewhere, wallies maybe, and get > me some of those 3 to 2 electrical adaptors as I just > found my gigahertz sampler scopes 3rd wire ground pin is > .2 ohms from a damned probe ground lead, so just hooking > up a ground lead

Re: [Emc-users] AC Servo ?

2017-04-08 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/08/2017 11:52 AM, Chris Albertson wrote: > Some place inside that encoder is a normal quadrature signal. Likely > right at the phototransistor.If you could find it and buffer it > then you have a conventional motor that is easy to interface. Well, in the case of the Fanuc serial encoders

Re: [Emc-users] AC Servo ?

2017-04-08 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/08/2017 12:05 AM, hubert wrote: > I have a Servo that has an undocumented feedback encoder. I am > interested in trying to decipher it. Is it feasible to run the servo > without feedback connected, and put a digital storage scope on its > outputs to capture the signal? It is an increm

Re: [Emc-users] for PCW?

2017-04-07 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/07/2017 11:52 AM, Peter C. Wallace wrote: > Note that these times are all in CPU clocks >> Thanks for pointing that out! (I'd forgotten that). Is there an easy way to convert that to seconds? Is it just the stated clock rate of the CPU in GHz? Jon

Re: [Emc-users] for PCW?

2017-04-07 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/07/2017 11:25 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Friday 07 April 2017 11:53:45 Jon Elson wrote: > >> On 04/07/2017 10:29 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: >>> What I want, but don't know if I can get, is to have the >>> servo thread running at the highest priority, fully

Re: [Emc-users] for PCW?

2017-04-07 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/07/2017 10:29 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > What I want, but don't know if I can get, is to have the > servo thread running at the highest priority, fully > capable of interrupting the jog-thread, but the jog-thread > cannot interrupt the servo thread as its not that time > critical. How best

Re: [Emc-users] Canonical killing Unity for Ubuntu Linux

2017-04-06 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/06/2017 07:39 AM, Eric H. Johnson wrote: > All, > > > > Just an FYI, Canonical is giving up on the Unity interface for Ubuntu and > going back to Gnome. > > HURRAY! Glorious news! But, it was possible to make later Ubuntu systems revert to Gnome-classic pretty easily. The only hack was

Re: [Emc-users] Freeze Up Using Ubuntu 10.04?

2017-04-05 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/05/2017 09:30 AM, Todd Zuercher wrote: > I still have (had) 2 machines running Linuxcnc on Ubuntu 10.04. One of which > seems to be locked into staying with it because of Hardware limitations (an > ISA interface card). In the past week one of those machines started freezing > up while runn

Re: [Emc-users] Servo Motor Retrofit sizing

2017-04-04 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/04/2017 08:57 PM, Dave Cole wrote: > Here is a discussion about inertial mismatch. > > http://www.motioncontrolonline.org/content-detail.cfm/Motion-Control-Technical-Features/Understanding-the-Mysteries-of-Inertia-Mismatch/content_id/404 > > The Sizing software that Automation Direct has on t

Re: [Emc-users] Servo Motor Retrofit sizing

2017-04-04 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/04/2017 01:35 PM, robert - Innovative-RC wrote: > Hi > > i am planning to retrofit a machine i will change the servo motors as > current ones are faulty etc > anyways i know the motor ratings on the machine right now as follows > > Yaskawa USAFED-30FS20E > Rated 18.6Nm > Continuou Max 22.

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