Re: [e-users] e17 can't unlock after screen lock

2011-11-21 Thread Geoffrey Myers
Robert Krambovitis wrote:
 On Mon, 2011-11-21 at 16:20 +0800, alphachi wrote:
 enlightenment-0.16.999.55225,2 on FreeBSD 8.2 Release

 Is this a bug or need additional config? Thanks!
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 I had this issue on opensuse, I found that the user needed to have read
 permission to /etc/shadow
 
 In my case I added the user to group shadow.

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Re: [e-users] next easy_e17.sh issue

2011-01-07 Thread Geoffrey Myers
Andreas Volz wrote:
 Am Tue, 04 Jan 2011 13:29:22 -0500 schrieb Geoffrey Myers:
 
 tony oliveri wrote:
 2011/1/4 Geoffrey Myers li...@serioustechnology.com

 I get this:

 Running aclocal...
 configure.ac:193: error: AC_LANG: unknown language: Objective C
 autoconf/lang.m4:123: _AC_LANG_SET is expanded from...
 autoconf/lang.m4:141: AC_LANG_PUSH is expanded from...
 autoconf/general.m4:1799: AC_CACHE_VAL is expanded from...
 autoconf/general.m4:1808: AC_CACHE_CHECK is expanded from...
 configure.ac:32: rw_PROG_OBJC_WORKS is expanded from...
 configure.ac:193: the top level
 autom4te: /usr/bin/m4 failed with exit status: 1
 aclocal: autom4te failed with exit status: 1

 So I'm thinking I need the Objective C gcc plugin.  Install it, but
 still get the same error.  Anyone?


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 Hi Geoffrey,
 try another version of autoconf package (it's just an attempt), if
 you can. Or try to install gobjc (the GNU *compiler* for Objective
 C). Good luck :)
 I've got gcc-objc installed.  Any suggestion on which version of 
 autoconf I might try?
 
 I've installed those:
 
 autoconf
 autoconf  autoconf2.13  autoconf2.50  
 autoconf --version
 Autoconf version 2.13
 ---
 Autoconf 2.13 chosen by Debian wrapper script.
 For information and tuning advice see autoconf(1)

I've got:

autoconf --version
autoconf (GNU Autoconf) 2.59

So I should try something older?

 
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Re: [e-users] next easy_e17.sh issue

2011-01-07 Thread Geoffrey Myers
Installed a different version of autoconf and got past that hurdle.  New
issue building ecore.  A good bit of output with a number of warnings
followed by:

configure.ac: installing `./install-sh'
configure.ac: installing `./missing'
src/bin/Makefile.am: installing `./depcomp'
src/lib/ecore_con/Makefile.am: installing `./compile'
configure.ac:1438: required file `$po_makefile_in.in' not found


Not sure what to make of that.

Be glad to post that rest of the log if necessary.

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Re: [e-users] next easy_e17.sh issue

2011-01-07 Thread Geoffrey Myers
Geoffrey Myers wrote:
 Installed a different version of autoconf and got past that hurdle.  New
 issue building ecore.  A good bit of output with a number of warnings
 followed by:
 
 configure.ac: installing `./install-sh'
 configure.ac: installing `./missing'
 src/bin/Makefile.am: installing `./depcomp'
 src/lib/ecore_con/Makefile.am: installing `./compile'
 configure.ac:1438: required file `$po_makefile_in.in' not found
 
 
 Not sure what to make of that.
 
 Be glad to post that rest of the log if necessary.

Here are the actual warnings without the extraneous stuff:

configure.ac:42: warning: AC_CACHE_VAL(lt_prog_compiler_pic_works, ...): 
suspicious cache-id, must contain _cv_ to be cached
configure.ac:42: warning: AC_CACHE_VAL(lt_prog_compiler_static_works, 
...): suspicious cache-id, must contain _cv_ to be cached
configure.ac:42: warning: AC_LANG_CONFTEST: no AC_LANG_SOURCE call 
detected in body
configure.ac:42: warning: AC_LANG_CONFTEST: no AC_LANG_SOURCE call 
detected in body
configure.ac:42: warning: AC_CACHE_VAL(lt_prog_compiler_pic_works_CXX, 
...): suspicious cache-id, must contain _cv_ to be cached
configure.ac:42: warning: 
AC_CACHE_VAL(lt_prog_compiler_static_works_CXX, ...): suspicious 
cache-id, must contain _cv_ to be cached
configure.ac:42: warning: AC_CACHE_VAL(lt_prog_compiler_pic_works_GCJ, 
...): suspicious cache-id, must contain _cv_ to be cached
configure.ac:42: warning: 
AC_CACHE_VAL(lt_prog_compiler_static_works_GCJ, ...): suspicious 
cache-id, must contain _cv_ to be cached
configure.ac:42: warning: AC_LANG_CONFTEST: no AC_LANG_SOURCE call 
detected in body
configure.ac:42: warning: AC_CACHE_VAL(lt_prog_compiler_pic_works, ...): 
suspicious cache-id, must contain _cv_ to be cached
configure.ac:42: warning: AC_CACHE_VAL(lt_prog_compiler_static_works, 
...): suspicious cache-id, must contain _cv_ to be cached
configure.ac:42: warning: AC_LANG_CONFTEST: no AC_LANG_SOURCE call 
detected in body
configure.ac:42: warning: AC_LANG_CONFTEST: no AC_LANG_SOURCE call 
detected in body
configure.ac:42: warning: AC_CACHE_VAL(lt_prog_compiler_pic_works_CXX, 
...): suspicious cache-id, must contain _cv_ to be cached
configure.ac:42: warning: 
AC_CACHE_VAL(lt_prog_compiler_static_works_CXX, ...): suspicious 
cache-id, must contain _cv_ to be cached
configure.ac:42: warning: AC_CACHE_VAL(lt_prog_compiler_pic_works_GCJ, 
...): suspicious cache-id, must contain _cv_ to be cached
configure.ac:42: warning: 
AC_CACHE_VAL(lt_prog_compiler_static_works_GCJ, ...): suspicious 
cache-id, must contain _cv_ to be cached
configure.ac:42: warning: AC_LANG_CONFTEST: no AC_LANG_SOURCE call 
detected in body
configure.ac:42: warning: AC_CACHE_VAL(lt_prog_compiler_pic_works, ...): 
suspicious cache-id, must contain _cv_ to be cached
configure.ac:42: warning: AC_CACHE_VAL(lt_prog_compiler_static_works, 
...): suspicious cache-id, must contain _cv_ to be cached
configure.ac:42: warning: AC_LANG_CONFTEST: no AC_LANG_SOURCE call 
detected in body
configure.ac:42: warning: AC_LANG_CONFTEST: no AC_LANG_SOURCE call 
detected in body
configure.ac:42: warning: AC_CACHE_VAL(lt_prog_compiler_pic_works_CXX, 
...): suspicious cache-id, must contain _cv_ to be cached
configure.ac:42: warning: 
AC_CACHE_VAL(lt_prog_compiler_static_works_CXX, ...): suspicious 
cache-id, must contain _cv_ to be cached
configure.ac:42: warning: AC_CACHE_VAL(lt_prog_compiler_pic_works_GCJ, 
...): suspicious cache-id, must contain _cv_ to be cached
configure.ac:42: warning: 
AC_CACHE_VAL(lt_prog_compiler_static_works_GCJ, ...): suspicious 
cache-id, must contain _cv_ to be cached
configure.ac:42: warning: AC_LANG_CONFTEST: no AC_LANG_SOURCE call 
detected in body
configure.ac:42: warning: AC_CACHE_VAL(lt_prog_compiler_pic_works, ...): 
suspicious cache-id, must contain _cv_ to be cached
configure.ac:42: warning: AC_CACHE_VAL(lt_prog_compiler_static_works, 
...): suspicious cache-id, must contain _cv_ to be cached
configure.ac:42: warning: AC_LANG_CONFTEST: no AC_LANG_SOURCE call 
detected in body
configure.ac:42: warning: AC_LANG_CONFTEST: no AC_LANG_SOURCE call 
detected in body
configure.ac:42: warning: AC_CACHE_VAL(lt_prog_compiler_pic_works_CXX, 
...): suspicious cache-id, must contain _cv_ to be cached
configure.ac:42: warning: 
AC_CACHE_VAL(lt_prog_compiler_static_works_CXX, ...): suspicious 
cache-id, must contain _cv_ to be cached
configure.ac:42: warning: AC_CACHE_VAL(lt_prog_compiler_pic_works_GCJ, 
...): suspicious cache-id, must contain _cv_ to be cached
configure.ac:42: warning: 
AC_CACHE_VAL(lt_prog_compiler_static_works_GCJ, ...): suspicious 
cache-id, must contain _cv_ to be cached
configure.ac:42: warning: AC_LANG_CONFTEST: no AC_LANG_SOURCE call 
detected in body


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Re: [e-users] next easy_e17.sh issue

2011-01-04 Thread Geoffrey Myers
tony oliveri wrote:
 2011/1/4 Geoffrey Myers li...@serioustechnology.com
 
 I get this:

 Running aclocal...
 configure.ac:193: error: AC_LANG: unknown language: Objective C
 autoconf/lang.m4:123: _AC_LANG_SET is expanded from...
 autoconf/lang.m4:141: AC_LANG_PUSH is expanded from...
 autoconf/general.m4:1799: AC_CACHE_VAL is expanded from...
 autoconf/general.m4:1808: AC_CACHE_CHECK is expanded from...
 configure.ac:32: rw_PROG_OBJC_WORKS is expanded from...
 configure.ac:193: the top level
 autom4te: /usr/bin/m4 failed with exit status: 1
 aclocal: autom4te failed with exit status: 1

 So I'm thinking I need the Objective C gcc plugin.  Install it, but
 still get the same error.  Anyone?


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 Hi Geoffrey,
 try another version of autoconf package (it's just an attempt), if you can.
 Or try to install gobjc (the GNU *compiler* for Objective C).
 Good luck :)

I've got gcc-objc installed.  Any suggestion on which version of 
autoconf I might try?

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Re: [e-users] System, no shutdown option

2010-08-17 Thread Geoffrey
Karl Sinn wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I ran into this a while back.  I think I had to set the
 enlightenment_sys executable (probably /usr/bin/enlightenment_sys or
 /usr/local/bin/enlightenment_sys) to setuid root.
 
 I set setuid root for:
 /opt/e17/lib/enlightenment/utils/enlightenment_sys
 /usr/local/lib/enlightenment/utils/enlightenment_sys
 
 
 But there's no change, still I can't shut down the system...
 Karl

Did you look at /opt/e17/etc/enlightenment/sysactions.conf ?

for my id I have:

user: esoteric  allow: *


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Re: [e-users] Screen lock. [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2010-02-15 Thread Geoffrey
Wilkinson, Alex wrote:
 0n Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 10:29:04AM -0500, Geoffrey wrote: 
 
 I know you can configure E to use a different screen locking app, for 
 example I use xscreensaver. 
 
 How do you do that ?

Settings-settings panel-screen-screen lock-advanced

At the bottom of the window you'll see 'use custom screenlock'

Check the box and put your command in the text box.

 
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Re: [e-users] Screen lock.

2010-02-10 Thread Geoffrey
Noorul Islam K M wrote:
 Hello e-users,
 
 I would like to execute some command when I lock my desktop screen and
 do the same when I unlock it. Is this possible in e17?

I know you can configure E to use a different screen locking app, for 
example I use xscreensaver.  I don't know if you could put together a 
shell that includes your screen locking mechanism and your command to 
execute and put it there.  Likely, that only gets you half way though as 
the unlocking, you'd likely have to write your own wrapper for the 
locking mechanism.  Sorry, thinking out loud a bit. It's worth a try?

 
 Any help is appreciated.
 
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[e-users] autoconf error

2010-02-04 Thread Geoffrey
configure.ac:17: error: possibly undefined macro: AC_LIBTOOL_WIN32_DLL
   If this token and others are legitimate, please use m4_pattern_allow.
   See the Autoconf documentation.
configure.ac:20: error: possibly undefined macro: AC_PROG_LIBTOOL

Not sure I understand why it's referencing a win32_dll macro.

Suggestions?

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[e-users] mouse double clicks

2009-12-22 Thread Geoffrey
Seems that ever since my last update of e17 (16.999.063), my mouse 
doubleclicks a lot when I do not intend to do so.  I'm constantly 
deleting two messages in email, rather then one.

I've looked for a mouse setting for this, but don't see it.  Any 
pointers would be greatly appreciated.

As long as I'm begging for assistance, I've also a problem (probably 
unrelated to e17, but I'm begging), with my middle mouse button not 
working.  This all happened when I replaced my existing mouse/keyboard 
combo.  Buttons 1 and 3 will emulate button 2, but I want my button 2 
back.  I've looked at my x config, but don't see anything that's causing 
this issue.

Thanks for any assistance.

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Re: [e-users] mouse double clicks

2009-12-22 Thread Geoffrey
On 12/22/09 07:37, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote:
 On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 10:09 AM, Geoffreyli...@serioustechnology.com  
 wrote:
 Seems that ever since my last update of e17 (16.999.063), my mouse
 doubleclicks a lot when I do not intend to do so.  I'm constantly
 deleting two messages in email, rather then one.

 I've looked for a mouse setting for this, but don't see it.  Any
 pointers would be greatly appreciated.

 As long as I'm begging for assistance, I've also a problem (probably
 unrelated to e17, but I'm begging), with my middle mouse button not
 working.  This all happened when I replaced my existing mouse/keyboard
 combo.  Buttons 1 and 3 will emulate button 2, but I want my button 2
 back.  I've looked at my x config, but don't see anything that's causing
 this issue.

 Thanks for any assistance.

 I'm seeing the double click here as well, but I was wondering if it
 was hardware problem. Anyway, I doubt this is related to E, but more
 related to X as I'm using new X (x-edgers ppa from ubuntu) and other
 co-workers do not see such behavior.

I would think it would be an X thing as well, it's just that it started 
happening after I did the update to 16.999.063.

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Re: [e-users] mouse double clicks

2009-12-22 Thread Geoffrey
On 12/22/09 16:35, David Seikel wrote:
 On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 07:53:07 -0500 Geoffrey
 li...@serioustechnology.com  wrote:

 On 12/22/09 07:37, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote:
 On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 10:09 AM,
 Geoffreyli...@serioustechnology.com   wrote:
 Seems that ever since my last update of e17 (16.999.063), my mouse
 doubleclicks a lot when I do not intend to do so.  I'm constantly
 deleting two messages in email, rather then one.

 I've looked for a mouse setting for this, but don't see it.  Any
 pointers would be greatly appreciated.

 As long as I'm begging for assistance, I've also a problem
 (probably unrelated to e17, but I'm begging), with my middle mouse
 button not working.  This all happened when I replaced my existing
 mouse/keyboard combo.  Buttons 1 and 3 will emulate button 2, but
 I want my button 2 back.  I've looked at my x config, but don't
 see anything that's causing this issue.

 Thanks for any assistance.

 I'm seeing the double click here as well, but I was wondering if it
 was hardware problem. Anyway, I doubt this is related to E, but more
 related to X as I'm using new X (x-edgers ppa from ubuntu) and other
 co-workers do not see such behavior.

 I would think it would be an X thing as well, it's just that it
 started happening after I did the update to 16.999.063.


 Might just be pure coincidence.  My mouse does the double click thing
 sometimes, I just pull it apart and give it a thorough cleaning, that
 fixes it for a few months.  It's a cheap mouse.  lol

Mine is a brand new mouse. Not cheap either.

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[e-users] temperature processes

2009-12-18 Thread Geoffrey
I have 62 tempget processes running on my current E17 install.  Sounds 
like a bit much.  Is that normal?

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Re: [e-users] temperature processes

2009-12-18 Thread Geoffrey
On 12/18/09 10:57, P Purkayastha wrote:
 On Friday 18 December 2009 10:08:39 Geoffrey wrote:
 I have 62 tempget processes running on my current E17 install.  Sounds
 like a bit much.  Is that normal?

 These are all 'leftovers' :P

So, should I kill them?  Why are the 'leftover?'

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Re: [e-users] temperature processes

2009-12-18 Thread Geoffrey
On 12/18/09 11:26, P Purkayastha wrote:
 On Friday 18 December 2009 11:20:02 Geoffrey wrote:
 On 12/18/09 10:57, P Purkayastha wrote:
 On Friday 18 December 2009 10:08:39 Geoffrey wrote:
 I have 62 tempget processes running on my current E17 install.
 Sounds like a bit much.  Is that normal?

 These are all 'leftovers' :P

 So, should I kill them?  Why are the 'leftover?'

 They are there as a punishment to you for logging out and logging in
 multiple times ( how dare you leave e ;-) ).

Great segway!!

I have been logging out and logging back in to try to resolve the fact 
that my reboot/shutdown/screen lock options are not on my menus. :( 
I've added the following:

users: esoteric allow: *

to my /opt/e17/etc/enlightenment/sysactions.conf

But that does not seem to have resolved these issues.

 Well, on a more serious note, they shouldn't be there. And yes, you can
 kill them. killall tempget should do the job.

Will do, thanks.


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Re: [e-users] temperature processes

2009-12-18 Thread Geoffrey
On 12/18/09 11:39, Iván Briano (Sachiel) wrote:
 On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 2:35 PM, Geoffreyli...@serioustechnology.com  wrote:
 On 12/18/09 11:26, P Purkayastha wrote:
 On Friday 18 December 2009 11:20:02 Geoffrey wrote:
 On 12/18/09 10:57, P Purkayastha wrote:
 On Friday 18 December 2009 10:08:39 Geoffrey wrote:
 I have 62 tempget processes running on my current E17 install.
 Sounds like a bit much.  Is that normal?

 These are all 'leftovers' :P

 So, should I kill them?  Why are the 'leftover?'

 They are there as a punishment to you for logging out and logging in
 multiple times ( how dare you leave e ;-) ).

 Great segway!!

 I have been logging out and logging back in to try to resolve the fact
 that my reboot/shutdown/screen lock options are not on my menus. :(
 I've added the following:

 users: esoteric allow: *

 to my /opt/e17/etc/enlightenment/sysactions.conf

 But that does not seem to have resolved these issues.

 Load System Controls module.

Thanks, do so, but when I select the 'systems' button, I get a partial 
pop up window.  All I can see is a portion of a cancel button 'ance'

???

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Re: [e-users] temperature processes

2009-12-18 Thread Geoffrey
On 12/18/09 14:03, Iván Briano (Sachiel) wrote:
 On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 4:59 PM, Geoffreyli...@serioustechnology.com  wrote:
 On 12/18/09 11:39, Iván Briano (Sachiel) wrote:
 On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 2:35 PM, Geoffreyli...@serioustechnology.com
 wrote:
 On 12/18/09 11:26, P Purkayastha wrote:
 On Friday 18 December 2009 11:20:02 Geoffrey wrote:
 On 12/18/09 10:57, P Purkayastha wrote:
 On Friday 18 December 2009 10:08:39 Geoffrey wrote:
 I have 62 tempget processes running on my current E17 install.
 Sounds like a bit much.  Is that normal?

 These are all 'leftovers' :P

 So, should I kill them?  Why are the 'leftover?'

 They are there as a punishment to you for logging out and logging in
 multiple times ( how dare you leave e ;-) ).

 Great segway!!

 I have been logging out and logging back in to try to resolve the fact
 that my reboot/shutdown/screen lock options are not on my menus. :(
 I've added the following:

 users: esoteric allow: *

 to my /opt/e17/etc/enlightenment/sysactions.conf

 But that does not seem to have resolved these issues.

 Load System Controls module.

 Thanks, do so, but when I select the 'systems' button, I get a partial
 pop up window.  All I can see is a portion of a cancel button 'ance'


 It's missing the config for the panel. Easier way to solve it is to
 start with a fresh config.

That means recreating my shelves from scratch right?


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Re: [e-users] temperature processes

2009-12-18 Thread Geoffrey
On 12/18/09 14:11, Iván Briano (Sachiel) wrote:
 On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 5:10 PM, Geoffreyli...@serioustechnology.com  wrote:
 On 12/18/09 14:03, Iván Briano (Sachiel) wrote:

 On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 4:59 PM, Geoffreyli...@serioustechnology.com
   wrote:

 On 12/18/09 11:39, Iván Briano (Sachiel) wrote:

 On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 2:35 PM, Geoffreyli...@serioustechnology.com
   wrote:

 On 12/18/09 11:26, P Purkayastha wrote:

 On Friday 18 December 2009 11:20:02 Geoffrey wrote:

 On 12/18/09 10:57, P Purkayastha wrote:

 On Friday 18 December 2009 10:08:39 Geoffrey wrote:

 I have 62 tempget processes running on my current E17 install.
 Sounds like a bit much.  Is that normal?

 These are all 'leftovers' :P

 So, should I kill them?  Why are the 'leftover?'

 They are there as a punishment to you for logging out and logging in
 multiple times ( how dare you leave e ;-) ).

 Great segway!!

 I have been logging out and logging back in to try to resolve the fact
 that my reboot/shutdown/screen lock options are not on my menus. :(
 I've added the following:

 users: esoteric allow: *

 to my /opt/e17/etc/enlightenment/sysactions.conf

 But that does not seem to have resolved these issues.

 Load System Controls module.

 Thanks, do so, but when I select the 'systems' button, I get a partial
 pop up window.  All I can see is a portion of a cancel button 'ance'


 It's missing the config for the panel. Easier way to solve it is to
 start with a fresh config.

 That means recreating my shelves from scratch right?


 Yes. Alternatively you can try to merge the config manully, something
 I'm finding strange E didn't do, but you may screw it up anyway. Since
 this is not something really recommended, I'll leave it to you to figure
 out how to do, should choose to go that way.

I'll just dump it all and start over.  Thanks.

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[e-users] easy_e17.sh looking for lua

2009-12-16 Thread Geoffrey
I'm getting the following when attempting to install E17 via easy_e17.sh:

checking for LUA... no
checking for LUA... no
checking for LUA... no
checking for LUA... no
configure: error: unable to find Lua

Although I believe I've got it installed:

'rpm -qa |grep lua' produces:

lua-lposix-1.0-3mdv2009.0
lua5.0-5.0.3-8mdv2009.0
liblua5.1-5.1.4-2mdv2009.0
lua-lposix-devel-1.0-3mdv2009.0
lua-5.1.4-2mdv2009.0

Anyone know what I'm missing here?

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[e-users] shelves on the wrong screen

2009-12-16 Thread Geoffrey
Just updated to 16.999.063

I'm running dual head set up and have my screens configured as follows:

xrandr --output DVI-0 --left-of VGA-0

Prior to updating E17, I had two shelves, one bottom center of left 
monitor, the other top center of the right monitor.

When I restarted E, both shelves were on the right screen.  I don't see 
anyway to move that shelf back to the left screen.

I did try starting up without my xrandr command, then run xrandr and 
both shelves are on the left screen.  I deleted the shelf that was on 
the top and tried to add it to the right screen.  When I do, the other 
shelf pops over to the right screen as well.

Solutions?

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Re: [e-users] easy_e17.sh looking for lua

2009-12-16 Thread Geoffrey
On 12/16/09 09:47, Cedric BAIL wrote:
 On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 2:47 PM, Geoffreyli...@serioustechnology.com  wrote:
 I'm getting the following when attempting to install E17 via easy_e17.sh:

 checking for LUA... no
 checking for LUA... no
 checking for LUA... no
 checking for LUA... no
 configure: error: unable to find Lua

 Although I believe I've got it installed:

 'rpm -qa |grep lua' produces:

 lua-lposix-1.0-3mdv2009.0
 lua5.0-5.0.3-8mdv2009.0
 liblua5.1-5.1.4-2mdv2009.0
 lua-lposix-devel-1.0-3mdv2009.0
 lua-5.1.4-2mdv2009.0

 Anyone know what I'm missing here?

 This doesn't look like dev packages. Do you have anything that look
 like *lua*.pc on your system (typically inside /usr/lib/pkgconfig) ?

As others mentioned, I was missing the liblau-devel package.  Installed 
it and E17 compiled and installed.  Thanks for the hints folks.


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[e-users] Is there an email client built for enlightenment?

2009-10-28 Thread Geoffrey
Is there an email client built for enlightenment?

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Re: [e-users] Is there an email client built for enlightenment?

2009-10-28 Thread Geoffrey
Vincent Pomageot wrote:
 Hi Geoffrey,
 
 AFAIK there's no email client built with the efl...

Thanks.

 
 Regards,
 
 Vincent Pomageot
 
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[e-users] top shows two enlightenment processes

2009-07-22 Thread Geoffrey
Any particular reason I would see two enlightenment processes running on 
my box?  Would that indicate I have two sessions running, possibly on 
different vts?

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Re: [e-users] lastest build missing my system menu

2009-04-16 Thread Geoffrey
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
 On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 12:04:39 -0300 Iván Briano (Sachiel) sachi...@gmail.com
 said:
 
 On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Geoffrey li...@serioustechnology.com
 wrote:
 batden wrote:
 Le mercredi 15 avril 2009 à 09:38 -0400, Geoffrey a écrit :
 After my most recent build, I'm missing my system menu which allowed me
 to lock/reboot/shutdown my box.  I've checked the configuration editor,
 but don't see an option to add this menu back.  Anyone know how to
 recover this?
 Workaround:

 Try editing sysactions.conf
 Look for [PREFIX]/etc/enlightenment/sysactions.conf and uncomment the
 line:
 # user: myuser allow:  *
 (replace myuser with the correct value)
 I have already done this.  Someone else suggested installing the Systems
 module, which I did, but now I get an empty systems menu.  If I click on
 the System menu item, I get a partial popup window about 1 cm wide.  All
 I can make out on the window is a partial cancel button.  If I click on
 the window, it goes away.

 It's not an empty menu, it popups that window. But you lack the configuration
 for it. I suggest you wipe your config and start fresh, as it seems you are
 still using the old default profile, which doesn't merge configuration 
 changes
 anymore.
 
 unfortunately no gui config (right now) to modify the contents of that popup -
 so you'll need to get a fresh config profile that has the config data.


I blew away my ~/.e directory and all is well.  That is a bit of a pain, 
as I have a number of custom icons in my shelf.  Oh well, such is the 
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Re: [e-users] lastest build missing my system menu

2009-04-16 Thread Geoffrey
Diogo Dutra wrote:
 On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 9:37 AM, Geoffrey li...@serioustechnology.com wrote:
 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:

snip

 unfortunately no gui config (right now) to modify the contents of that 
 popup -
 so you'll need to get a fresh config profile that has the config data.

 I blew away my ~/.e directory and all is well.  That is a bit of a pain,
 as I have a number of custom icons in my shelf.  Oh well, such is the
 life on the bleeding edge. ;)
 
 You dont need to lose your icons.. you can save some cfgs and replace
 it after the remotion of .e directory. Like
 .e/e/config/module.ibar.cfg. Its because the problem is not in ibar..
 and the directory .e/e/applications too.

Thanks, will note that next update. ;)

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Re: [e-users] errors building ecore with easy_e17.sh

2009-04-13 Thread Geoffrey
mik firestone wrote:
 You need to back-rev your libfribidi. 
 
 I had to go from v0.19.1 back to v 0.10.9.  At least on gentoo, that was 
 really only one version level.

That worked for me as well, thanks.  How did you know this would resolve 
your problem?

 
 Mik
 
 On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 11:57 AM, Geoffrey li...@serioustechnology.com 
 mailto:li...@serioustechnology.com wrote:
 
 I'm receiving the following error when building ecore with easy_e17.sh:
 
 /opt/e17/lib/libevas.so.0: undefined reference to `fribidi_is_char_rtl'
 
 Am I missing a header or library?  I can't track this issue down in the
 code or google.
 
 I've got libfribidi-devel installed, so I'm not sure what else might be
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[e-users] exhibit fails to build with easy_e17.sh

2009-04-13 Thread Geoffrey
Resolved my wpa_supplicant and libfribidi issues, now I receive the 
following errors when attempting to build exhibit:

/opt/e17/lib/libengrave.so: undefined reference to `evas_list_append'
/opt/e17/lib/libengrave.so: undefined reference to `evas_list_data'
/opt/e17/lib/libengrave.so: undefined reference to `evas_list_remove'
/opt/e17/lib/libengrave.so: undefined reference to `evas_list_count'
/opt/e17/lib/libengrave.so: undefined reference to `evas_list_nth'
/opt/e17/lib/libengrave.so: undefined reference to `evas_list_free'
/opt/e17/lib/libengrave.so: undefined reference to `evas_list_last'

suggestions anyone?

For now I've skipped it, but would like to get it to compile.  I've 
found a few references to these errors via google, but the only solution 
suggested was to skip exhibit.

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Re: [e-users] New error when trying to build E17 with easy_e17.sh

2009-04-03 Thread Geoffrey
Geoffrey wrote:
 I removed my E17 code and tried re-running easy_e17.sh, now I get 
 further in the process, but get the following error:
 
 exalt_wpa_supplicant.c:60: error: ‘COMMAND_WPA’ undeclared (first use in 
 this function)
 
 anyone?

I've tried blowing away my existing e17 and rebuilding, but I get the 
same error.  Anyone have any suggestions?

I've googled around a bit and found a reference to COMMAND_WPA in 
libexalt_private.h, but when I view this header on my box, there is no 
reference to COMMAND_WPA.

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[e-users] New error when trying to build E17 with easy_e17.sh

2009-04-02 Thread Geoffrey
I removed my E17 code and tried re-running easy_e17.sh, now I get 
further in the process, but get the following error:

exalt_wpa_supplicant.c:60: error: ‘COMMAND_WPA’ undeclared (first use in 
this function)

anyone?

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Re: [e-users] icons on desktop

2009-04-01 Thread Geoffrey
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
 On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 17:15:13 -0400 Geoffrey li...@serioustechnology.com 
 said:
 
 I have recently re-installed E17 on my box.  There are various icons 
 that show up on the desktop referencing various devices, (external 
 drives, scanner, tv card).  Prior to this install of E17, I could move 
 these icons around.  If I attempt to drag them around, they simply 
 return to their original position.  Further, two of them are on top of 
 each other and therefore I can't get to the one underneath.

 Is this a bug, or some configuration detail I'm missing?

 (enlightenment 16.999.043)
 
 i suspect.. that you are well behind - 050 was snapped months ago and svn dev
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Re: [e-users] icons on desktop

2009-04-01 Thread Geoffrey
Geoffrey wrote:
 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
 On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 17:15:13 -0400 Geoffrey li...@serioustechnology.com 
 said:

 I have recently re-installed E17 on my box.  There are various icons 
 that show up on the desktop referencing various devices, (external 
 drives, scanner, tv card).  Prior to this install of E17, I could move 
 these icons around.  If I attempt to drag them around, they simply 
 return to their original position.  Further, two of them are on top of 
 each other and therefore I can't get to the one underneath.

 Is this a bug, or some configuration detail I'm missing?

 (enlightenment 16.999.043)
 i suspect.. that you are well behind - 050 was snapped months ago and svn dev
 has moved on...
 
 Thanks, updating now.

Okay, I am missing something. Using easy_e17.sh, I rebuilt 
Enlightenment, but it still comes up with 16.999.043.  Should I be 
pointing to a different cvs server?

cvs_srv=:pserver:anonym...@anoncvs.enlightenment.org:/var/cvs/e

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[e-users] icons on desktop

2009-03-31 Thread Geoffrey
I have recently re-installed E17 on my box.  There are various icons 
that show up on the desktop referencing various devices, (external 
drives, scanner, tv card).  Prior to this install of E17, I could move 
these icons around.  If I attempt to drag them around, they simply 
return to their original position.  Further, two of them are on top of 
each other and therefore I can't get to the one underneath.

Is this a bug, or some configuration detail I'm missing?

(enlightenment 16.999.043)

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[e-users] trying to build E17 with easy_e17.sh on Mandriva 2009 powerpack

2009-03-26 Thread Geoffrey
I've got a new installation of Mandriva 2009 powerpack and when I try to 
build E17 via easy_e17.sh I get the following error:

../../src/lib/.libs/libepsilon.so: undefined reference to 
`_epsilon_png_write'

Can't figure this one out, anyone have any suggestions?  Thanks.

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[e-users] multiple shelves on dual head system.

2009-01-24 Thread Geoffrey
I'm running a dual head system facilitated by xrandr.

I want to a separate shelf with different ibar contents.  When I first
add the ibar to the second monitor, it contains the same icons as my
first ibar.  If I attempt to add an icon to this new ibar, it shows up 
on the other ibar.  After logging out and logging back in, I only have 
one shelf visible.  I can go into configuration and rearrange my shelfs 
to where I want them, but then the ibars have identical contents.

Is what I'm trying to do possible?

I've just updated to the latest code via easy_e17.sh

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Re: [e-users] keyboard layout indicator

2008-11-18 Thread Geoffrey
Jackson wrote:
 Anyone else know of any good keyboard indicators / keyboard switchers?  The
 language module was working fine for me until I upgraded to ubuntu intrepid
 ibex (with a new version of Xorg); I've tried xxkb, and it didn't function
 (only gave me the the GB layout, which I don't even use, didn't go to tray,
 no meaningful man or help pages to help me figure it out).  The keyboard
 mapping commands aren't really helpful to me as I switch between multiple
 layouts (french, us english, polytonic greek, icelandic, and I should like
 to soon add japanese  hebrew).
 
 any help or tips, or perhaps a clue on how to get the language module
 working again?

Are you looking for something like this:

http://www.jwz.org/xkeycaps/

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Re: [e-users] error when building latest with easy_e17.sh

2008-07-15 Thread Geoffrey
Dave Andreoli wrote:
 Yes sorry, it's my fault, I forgot to commit a change :(
 It's fixed in cvs now.

Deleted my existing tree and pulled a new one from cvs and I get:

edje_editor_tree.o: In function `tree_create':
/root/e17_cvs/e17/proto/edje_editor/src/bin/edje_editor_tree.c:15: 
undefined reference to `etk_combobox_entry_autosearch_enable_set'

 
 DaveMDS
 
 - Geoffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto:
 
 Recently removed all my e17 source as I'm trying to resolve my current

 problem with previously mentioned issues with mouse not functioning. 
 Receiving the following error when compiling:

 edje_editor_gradient.o: In function `gradient_frame_update':
 /root/e17_cvs/e17/proto/edje_editor/src/bin/edje_editor_gradient.c:294:

 undefined reference to `edje_edit_state_gradient_spectra_id_get'

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Re: [e-users] error when building latest with easy_e17.sh

2008-07-15 Thread Geoffrey
Dave Andreoli wrote:
 - Geoffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto:
 
 Dave Andreoli wrote:
 Yes sorry, it's my fault, I forgot to commit a change :(
 It's fixed in cvs now.
 Deleted my existing tree and pulled a new one from cvs and I get:

 edje_editor_tree.o: In function `tree_create':
 /root/e17_cvs/e17/proto/edje_editor/src/bin/edje_editor_tree.c:15: 
 undefined reference to `etk_combobox_entry_autosearch_enable_set'
 
 You need to update etk and edje also.

Thanks, that did it.

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[e-users] downloading errors when easy_e17.sh

2008-04-14 Thread Geoffrey
I'm seeing the following when running easy_e17.sh:

? libs/exml/depcomp
M apps/e/po/bg.po
M apps/e/po/ca.po
M apps/e/po/de.po
M apps/e/po/eo.po
M apps/e/po/es.po
M apps/e/po/fi.po
M apps/e/po/fr.po
M apps/e/po/fr_CH.po
M apps/e/po/hu.po
C apps/e/po/it.po
M apps/e/po/ja.po
M apps/e/po/ko.po
M apps/e/po/pt_BR.po
M apps/e/po/ru.po
M apps/e/po/sl.po
M apps/e/po/zh_CN.po
M apps/e/po/zh_TW.po
FAILED! Next attempt 3 in 5 seconds

Anyone have any ideas why this happens?

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[e-users] setting up entrance

2008-04-01 Thread Geoffrey
I've setup /etc/sysconfig/desktop as:

DISPLAYMANAGER=/opt/e17/bin/entrance_wrapper

When I restart, I get the following:

Apr  1 11:06:39 mac entrance: Debug: ipc_title = 
/var/run/entrance/entrance_ipc_0
Apr  1 11:06:39 mac entrance: entrance_ipc_init: connect to daemon failed.
Apr  1 11:06:39 mac entrance: entrance_session_new: Unexpected error 
occured.

Anyone have any suggestions as to what's up with this?

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[e-users] compile error, just pulled from cvs

2008-03-12 Thread Geoffrey
I get the following compile error when building e:

e_int_config_wallpaper_web.c:378: error: 'title' undeclared (first use 
in this function)

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Re: [e-users] AC_CHECK_HEADERS_ONCE errors building e on Red Hat EL 5

2008-03-10 Thread Geoffrey
David Seikel wrote:
 On Sun, 09 Mar 2008 21:47:24 -0400 Geoffrey
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I'm trying to build e on Red Hat EL 5 with the easy_e17.sh script.
 I'm receiving the following error when attempting to compile ecore:

 configure.in:60: error: possibly undefined macro:
 AC_CHECK_HEADERS_ONCE If this token and others are legitimate, please
 use m4_pattern_allow. See the Autoconf documentation.

 I've done a bit of research regarding this issue, and don't find 
 anything specific e.  Any suggestions as to how to resolve this issue 
 would be appreciated.
 
 One of the developers thought it would be a god idea to use macros from
 a bleeding edge version of the autofoo development tools.  Makes it
 hard for us that are using older, more stable distros.  Especially in
 this case where the change only gives a slight improvement in build
 time.  Not worth it yet.
 
 Change all references to AC_CHECK_HEADERS_ONCE to be
 AC_CHECK_HEADERS.

Thanks, that seems to have gotten me over this hurdle.

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[e-users] error building entrance via easy_e17.sh

2008-03-10 Thread Geoffrey
When easy_e17.sh is compiling entrance, I get the following error:

entrance_session.c:5:37: error: Esmart/Esmart_Container.h: No such file 
or directory

Seems to me that esmart was build fine:

- esmart . previously installed

And I assume that's where Esmart_Container.h would get installed by.

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[e-users] AC_CHECK_HEADERS_ONCE errors building e on Red Hat EL 5

2008-03-09 Thread Geoffrey
I'm trying to build e on Red Hat EL 5 with the easy_e17.sh script.  I'm 
receiving the following error when attempting to compile ecore:

configure.in:60: error: possibly undefined macro: AC_CHECK_HEADERS_ONCE
If this token and others are legitimate, please use m4_pattern_allow.
See the Autoconf documentation.

I've done a bit of research regarding this issue, and don't find 
anything specific e.  Any suggestions as to how to resolve this issue 
would be appreciated.

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Re: [e-users] Gnome applet in E17

2008-02-06 Thread Geoffrey
Andreas Volz wrote:
 Hello,
 
 is there an E17 module to hold a Gnome applet in it? I think this could
 be technical possible. I only ask because the Ubuntu update-notifier is
 currently the only reason not to use E17 on my Laptop.

I don't think this is possible, but you can run a standalone gnome-panel 
on top of E, I've done that before.

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Re: [e-users] easy_17.sh successful on Fedora 8, fails on RHWS 4

2008-01-26 Thread Geoffrey
I've done a little research on this and it appears that PKG_CHECK_EXISTS 
is supposed to be an m4 macro, but I can't find any reference to it.  I 
have located the PKG_CHECK_MODULES macro in /usr/share/aclocal/pkg.m4

So, I'm assuming this is an issue with Red Hat Workstation 4 and 
possibly the use of a deprecated macro?  I'm reaching here, since I 
don't play with m4 macros.

Anyone have any ideas, suggestions?

Geoffrey wrote:
 Thanks to all for the assistance with easy_17.sh.  I was able to 
 successfully build e using it on my fedora 8 box.  I'm now trying to run 
 it on my Red Hat Workstation 4 box and when compiling imlib2, I receive 
 the following error:
 
 ./configure: line 22512: syntax error near unexpected token `libpng12,'
 ./configure: line 22512: `  PKG_CHECK_EXISTS(libpng12,'
 
 Looking at the configure code I see the following:
 
 if test $png_loader != no ; then
   PKG_CHECK_EXISTS(libpng12,
  PKG_CHECK_MODULES(PNG, libpng12, [ png_ok=yes ], [ png_ok=no]),
 
   PKG_CHECK_EXISTS(libpng10,
 [ PKG_CHECK_MODULES(PNG, libpng10, [ png_ok=yes ], [ 
 png_ok=no]) ],
 [ PKG_CHECK_MODULES(PNG, libpng, [ png_ok=yes ], [ 
 png_ok=no]) ]
   )
 
   )
 fi
 
 Pretty complex scripting there, but at first glance, I don't see the 
 syntactical error.
 
 I can't find where PKG_CHECK_EXISTS is defined though.
 
 Any suggestions would be appreciated.
 


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[e-users] easy_17.sh successful on Fedora 8, fails on RHWS 4

2008-01-23 Thread Geoffrey
Thanks to all for the assistance with easy_17.sh.  I was able to 
successfully build e using it on my fedora 8 box.  I'm now trying to run 
it on my Red Hat Workstation 4 box and when compiling imlib2, I receive 
the following error:

./configure: line 22512: syntax error near unexpected token `libpng12,'
./configure: line 22512: `  PKG_CHECK_EXISTS(libpng12,'

Looking at the configure code I see the following:

if test $png_loader != no ; then
   PKG_CHECK_EXISTS(libpng12,
  PKG_CHECK_MODULES(PNG, libpng12, [ png_ok=yes ], [ png_ok=no]),

   PKG_CHECK_EXISTS(libpng10,
 [ PKG_CHECK_MODULES(PNG, libpng10, [ png_ok=yes ], [ 
png_ok=no]) ],
 [ PKG_CHECK_MODULES(PNG, libpng, [ png_ok=yes ], [ 
png_ok=no]) ]
   )

   )
fi

Pretty complex scripting there, but at first glance, I don't see the 
syntactical error.

I can't find where PKG_CHECK_EXISTS is defined though.

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Re: [e-users] easy_e17.sh error

2008-01-22 Thread Geoffrey
Massimiliano Calamelli wrote:
 There's 3 way to solve.
 0) Check if there's a new stable release of easy_e17 (you can use -v
 switch if your release is not too old)
 1) use easy_e17 from svn
 2) edit your copy of the script and add emprint to the application's  list

Thanks, #2 worked like a charm.  I didn't think to look to see if was 
trying to build it.

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[e-users] easy_e17.sh error

2008-01-21 Thread Geoffrey
I thought I'd give easy_e17.sh a try, received the following error:

entrance_session.c:5:37: error: Esmart/Esmart_Container.h: No such file 
or directory

Everything up to that point appears to have properly built.

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Re: [e-users] easy_e17.sh error

2008-01-21 Thread Geoffrey
Geoffrey wrote:
 I thought I'd give easy_e17.sh a try, received the following error:
 
 entrance_session.c:5:37: error: Esmart/Esmart_Container.h: No such file 
 or directory
 
 Everything up to that point appears to have properly built.
 
 Appreciate any assistance.

After a bit more research I do find the following, which appears to 
conflict with where the build is trying to locate the file:

/root/e17_cvs/e17/libs/esmart/src/lib/esmart_container/Esmart_Container.h

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Re: [e-users] easy_e17.sh error

2008-01-21 Thread Geoffrey
Okay, I removed my source and re-ran easy_e17.sh and I've progressed 
beyond my last error.

Sorry for the noise..

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Re: [e-users] easy_e17.sh error

2008-01-21 Thread Geoffrey
Geoffrey wrote:
 Okay, I removed my source and re-ran easy_e17.sh and I've progressed 
 beyond my last error.
 
 Sorry for the noise..

Hopefully, not more noise.  When trying to build screenshot I receive 
the error:

configure: error: emprint not found

There is a source directory for emprint, but there is no configure file. 
   Did easy_e17.sh miss something when pulling the source?

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Re: [e-users] power saving module

2007-12-21 Thread Geoffrey
Ravenlock wrote:
 On 12/20/2007 21:01, Geoffrey wrote:
 Geoffrey wrote:
 So now it works.  I did update some files, so I'm guessing a bug was fixed.
 And now it doesn't work.  I don't get it.  I don't see what has changed. 
   I've not even rebooted this box or logged out.
 
 Are you using a screensaver in addition to using dpms?   If so which?
 
 Also,  try running the following script in a terminal to see if your
 dpms settings are getting changed without your knowledge:
 
 #!/bin/sh
 
 while [ 1 ]
 do
 sleep 15
 echo `date +%d-%m-%Y-%H:%M; xset -q | grep -e Monitor -e DPMS
 -e Standby`
 done
 
 might change the sleep value to a minute or so.

Yeah, I actually have been checking xset output and it appears DPMS is 
on.  The weird thing is that I rechecked my power management settings 
via E configuration and now it's working again.

I'm not sure what causes it to stop working and I'm not sure what causes 
it to start working.  I'm going to start working on narrowing it down to 
see if there's one specific thing that's causing this issue.  For 
starters, I'm not going to change anything for a few days to see if it 
continuously works.  If so, then I'll start doing one thing at a time, 
like, I'll exit the window manager and log back in and see if it's still 
working.  If not, I'll then check xset values and then reconfigure via E 
and see if that fixes it.

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Re: [e-users] power saving module

2007-12-20 Thread Geoffrey
Geoffrey wrote:
 So now it works.  I did update some files, so I'm guessing a bug was fixed.

And now it doesn't work.  I don't get it.  I don't see what has changed. 
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Re: [e-users] power saving module

2007-12-17 Thread Geoffrey
So now it works.  I did update some files, so I'm guessing a bug was fixed.

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Re: [e-users] power saving module

2007-12-15 Thread Geoffrey
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
 On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 21:09:27 -0500 Geoffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 babbled:
 
 I unplugged the usb transmitter for the keyboard and mouse and still, 
 the monitor was lit up the next morning.  More research I guess.
 
 as i said - i found a particular version of x - can't remember which, refused 
 to
 blank/power down. it would blank, turn off, then turn right back on again 1
 second later. this was ubuntu feisty's version i think. it got fixed in gutsy.
 it works now.

Yeah, this is a multi-boot box, so I'm going to try another distro for 
grins.  I'm going to test other wm as well, to try and nail it down.  It 
could well be a problem with Fedora 8.  I'm also going to put Fedora 8 
and E on another box to see if the problem exists there.

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Re: [e-users] power saving module

2007-12-14 Thread Geoffrey
Geoffrey wrote:
 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
 On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 09:44:44 -0500 Geoffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 babbled:

 Geoffrey wrote:
 I've installed and configured display power management, but it does not 
 appear to work at all.  I leave my computer at night, screen locked, and 
 the next morning both monitors are still lit.
 A little bit more info.  xset shows:

 DPMS (Energy Star):
Standby: 1800Suspend: 3600Off: 4500
DPMS is Enabled
Monitor is On

 I don't get it.  Unfortunately, I updated E as well as  upgraded the 
 distro, so I'm not sure which might be the problem.  Before I got E 
 going again on this install, I'm sure the monitor standby/suspend/off 
 was working though.
 works for me - but i did notice on ubuntu feisty - before my upgrade to 
 gutsy,
 dpms was also broken for x. blank would kick in then unblank a second later. 
 so
 e itself works  here and screen blanking/suspend/poweroff work fine. some
 people have reported problems with jittery mice that even if they sit there 
 all
 night move the pointer around every now and again (hardware issue generally -
 but nothing e can solve as e just gets told by x the mouse moved - it doesn't
 know if that's just noise or a real movement, but either way - i there is ANY
 movement x will disable display suspend and e doesn't have a choice in that).
 
 Interesting point.  It's a combo wireless mouse/keyboard.  I'm going to 
 unplug them this evening and see if that might be it.

I unplugged the usb transmitter for the keyboard and mouse and still, 
the monitor was lit up the next morning.  More research I guess.

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Re: [e-users] weird pop up window problem

2007-12-13 Thread Geoffrey
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
 On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 10:43:32 -0500 Geoffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 babbled:
 
 I have been using gnucash for a long while.  I recently upgraded to 
 Fedora 8, gnucash 2.2.1 and E17 from cvs on 15 Nov.

 When I attempt to open the 'find invoice' dialog it does not show.

 If I run gnome instead of E, it works fine.

 Any ideas what might be causing this?  I run gnucash --debug but there 
 is no output generated when attempting to open the find invoice or find 
 customer dialogs.
 
 unlikely to get you anything useful. i haven't seen this kind of thing before,
 but its likely one of a few things
 
 1. check the lost windows menu - has gnucash decided to ask to have its window
 be offscreen? e will dutifully honor such stupid requests and place the
 window off the screen as requested. i have found sometimes some apps do this. 
 e
 has no code to second-guess such silly requests and force the window back
 on-screen. metacity does - but at the same time this then stops legitimate 
 uses
 of putting a window off the screen.

Thought about that, doesn't show up there.

 2. e could somehow be missing/screwing up with events - a bug on e definitely

I might just update E again.  Or I might try to go back to the version I 
had on fedora 6 and see if that makes a difference.

 3. it could be having problems with remember properties and placing the window
 off screen based on these - unlikely as e tried to adjust its remember stuff 
 to
 never do this
 4. it could have gone to another desktop?

Does not appear to be the case.  I've checked all available desktops.

 so dig in a bit. haven't seen this before. (but then i don't use gnucash :))

I posted to the gnucash list and found a few others having similar 
problems, thus it could well be gnucash, although I tried it under both 
kde and gnome and it does work there.

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Re: [e-users] comparison of E to other window managers?

2007-12-06 Thread Geoffrey
Nathan Ingersoll wrote:
 Some rather dated numbers are available on
 http://www.rasterman.com/index.php?page=News
 
 Look for the post from 29 May 2005

Thanks, I did find this, but as you've noted, it's a bit dated.  I know 
for a fact that e17 of late is much faster then it was, say, a year ago.

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[e-users] weird pop up window problem

2007-11-30 Thread Geoffrey
I have been using gnucash for a long while.  I recently upgraded to 
Fedora 8, gnucash 2.2.1 and E17 from cvs on 15 Nov.

When I attempt to open the 'find invoice' dialog it does not show.

If I run gnome instead of E, it works fine.

Any ideas what might be causing this?  I run gnucash --debug but there 
is no output generated when attempting to open the find invoice or find 
customer dialogs.

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Re: [e-users] power saving module

2007-11-29 Thread Geoffrey
Geoffrey wrote:
 I've installed and configured display power management, but it does not 
 appear to work at all.  I leave my computer at night, screen locked, and 
 the next morning both monitors are still lit.

A little bit more info.  xset shows:

DPMS (Energy Star):
   Standby: 1800Suspend: 3600Off: 4500
   DPMS is Enabled
   Monitor is On

I don't get it.  Unfortunately, I updated E as well as  upgraded the 
distro, so I'm not sure which might be the problem.  Before I got E 
going again on this install, I'm sure the monitor standby/suspend/off 
was working though.

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[e-users] power saving module

2007-11-28 Thread Geoffrey
I've installed and configured display power management, but it does not 
appear to work at all.  I leave my computer at night, screen locked, and 
the next morning both monitors are still lit.

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[e-users] adding modules

2007-11-27 Thread Geoffrey
When I try to add new modules via the menu, they don't show up in the 
config menu.  I successfully added wallpapers, but I've tried to add 
mouse bindings and power, but they don't show in the menu.

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Re: [e-users] adding modules

2007-11-27 Thread Geoffrey
Robin wrote:
 On 27/11/2007, Geoffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 When I try to add new modules via the menu, they don't show up in the
 config menu.  I successfully added wallpapers, but I've tried to add
 mouse bindings and power, but they don't show in the menu.

 Ideas?

 They show up in the Configuration Panel

Maybe I'm confused.  I can't locate a 'configuration panel.'  I should 
have noted this is E17 from cvs about a week ago.  I can see:

configuration-
modules
wallpaper
shelves

wallpaper didn't show up until a selected 'modules' and selected to 
'add' wallpaper configuration.  I've done the same for mouse bindings 
and power, but can't find anywhere to configure these.  How does one get 
to the 'configuration panel' you mention?

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Re: [e-users] adding modules

2007-11-27 Thread Geoffrey
Hannes Janetzek wrote:
 Am Tue, 27 Nov 2007 16:07:30 -0500
 schrieb Geoffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
 Robin wrote:
 On 27/11/2007, Geoffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 When I try to add new modules via the menu, they don't show up in
 the config menu.  I successfully added wallpapers, but I've tried
 to add mouse bindings and power, but they don't show in the menu.

 Ideas?
 They show up in the Configuration Panel
 Maybe I'm confused.  I can't locate a 'configuration panel.'  I
 should have noted this is E17 from cvs about a week ago.  I can see:

 configuration-
  modules
  wallpaper
  shelves

 wallpaper didn't show up until a selected 'modules' and selected to 
 'add' wallpaper configuration.  I've done the same for mouse bindings 
 and power, but can't find anywhere to configure these.  How does one
 get to the 'configuration panel' you mention?

 
 even the configuration panel is a module that you can load. (though
 this should have been loaded by default if you start with a clean new
 installation)

Ah, that was it, thanks.  Never had to do that before though...

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Re: [e-users] adding modules

2007-11-27 Thread Geoffrey
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
 On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 16:07:30 -0500 Geoffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 babbled:
 
 Robin wrote:
 On 27/11/2007, Geoffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 When I try to add new modules via the menu, they don't show up in the
 config menu.  I successfully added wallpapers, but I've tried to add
 mouse bindings and power, but they don't show in the menu.

 Ideas?
 They show up in the Configuration Panel
 Maybe I'm confused.  I can't locate a 'configuration panel.'  I should 
 have noted this is E17 from cvs about a week ago.  I can see:

 configuration-
  modules
  wallpaper
  shelves

 wallpaper didn't show up until a selected 'modules' and selected to 
 'add' wallpaper configuration.  I've done the same for mouse bindings 
 and power, but can't find anywhere to configure these.  How does one get 
 to the 'configuration panel' you mention?

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 some config modules add a menu entry to the config menu (for very commonly
 accesses config dialogs). the others only add to the config panel. (modules is
 always there. it's built-in). there is a configuration panel module. this
 provides the config panel gui. you may want to add that. (note - if you start
 with a fresh config for e - no existing config, all of this is already 
 loaded).

This was likely the key, I was working from a previous config.  Figured 
out how to add the configuration panel module and now all is well.

Thanks muchly.

By the way, I had my laptop at the local Magnet High School the other 
day and these brainy kids were freaking out over E.

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[e-users] building e

2007-11-15 Thread Geoffrey
I've not compiled E in a while, and now when I attempt to do so with my 
'it used to work' script, it fails.  Is there any doc out there that 
outlines the compilation order?

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[e-users] [Fwd: error compiling e]

2007-04-28 Thread Geoffrey
I've not built e in a while, so I just gave it a go and the libs build
find, but e compilation generates the error:

e.h:56:21: error: Ecore_X.h: No such file or directory

As well as a few more.  I can find Ecore_X.h under the ecore lib tree,
but is there something I've missed in order to get e to find it?

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[e-users] error compiling e

2007-04-28 Thread Geoffrey
I've not built e in a while, so I just gave it a go and the libs build 
find, but e compilation generates the error:

e.h:56:21: error: Ecore_X.h: No such file or directory

As well as a few more.  I can find Ecore_X.h under the ecore lib tree, 
but is there something I've missed in order to get e to find it?

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Re: [e-users] Hows the water?

2006-09-22 Thread Geoffrey
Ronald Lau wrote:
 Want to update, need to update, afraid to update.

backup, update, not happy? reload backup.

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[e-users] is the water safe?

2006-06-16 Thread Geoffrey
Was wondering if others have updated E17 and found the 'closing a window 
kills E17' problem has gone away?

I was hoping to hit cvs again, but wanted to see if this item had been 
addressed.

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[e-users] cvs build from yesterday

2006-06-08 Thread Geoffrey
Rebuilt E17 from cvs yesterday.  When I try to close any window, I get 
the 'this is very bad' window and have to restart E17.  I've doubled 
checked to make sure I ran ldconfig, but still the same problem.

any suggestions would be appreciated.

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Re: [e-users] calendar module problem

2006-05-24 Thread Geoffrey

Morten Nilsen wrote:

mark stavar wrote:

In my experience, this is a sizing issue.

If you enter edit mode and widen the calendar display, the problem will
disappear.


indeed.. someone might want to look into fixing that.. :P


I would suspect it's simply an issue that the calendar is not large 
enough to properly display the numbers.  Would you prefer the numbers be 
displayed overlapping?  I guess that would be a better indication of the 
problem.


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Re: [e-users] Re: [E-devel] entrance autodetect.sh integration.

2006-04-01 Thread Geoffrey

David Seikel wrote:


If this was actually about fixing things, then instead of continually
pouring scourn on my contribution, things would have simply been
fixed.  All we have really accomplished is to generate a lot of noise
that makes us all look foolish.


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Re: [e-users] xinitrc for kde in enlightenment ?

2006-02-25 Thread Geoffrey

Paul Stejskal wrote:

That's kinda dumb. You're wanting to run a bulky buggy WM on top of a
clean, simple, fast, and well written (except for it being in alpha) WM.
If you state what you wish to get done, maybe we could help with that
instead.


I agree with all except the very first assessment.  It's not dumb, just 
ignorant.  Ignorance can be overcome through education.


Jan, do outline what you want to accomplish and there are many 
'enlightened' folks on the list who will assist.


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Re: [e-users] CVS Servers - YOU CAN HELP! (STATUS)

2006-02-20 Thread Geoffrey
Curtis Napier wrote:

 I vote for Gentoo.
 
 /me runs away giggling to self.

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Re: [e-users] CVS Servers - YOU CAN HELP! (STATUS)

2006-02-20 Thread Geoffrey
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:

 debian stable is not old. it was released last august

Not that I expect anything to change, but...

I know it was just released, but Debian's approach to it's releases has
their latest release containing software that is always older versions
then what other distros release within the same timeframe.

Personally, I don't have to admin the box, I don't really care what it
runs. :)  I was just trying to stir things up as well.

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Re: [e-users] virtual terminals broken

2006-02-19 Thread Geoffrey

Morten Nilsen wrote:

Geoffrey wrote:

Updated my e17 on the 18th.  After this update, I can't switch to a 
virtual terminal.  What I get is my desktop image with a 5 cm black 
space at the top that appears to be the contents of the virtual 
terminal screen. If I hit the enter key I can see the login prompt 
scroll in this short space.  Anyone??  I'll try a rebuild today.




are you referring to the console?


Somehow I missed responding to this.  Cleaning out old email and found 
it. :(


Yes, console.


if so, you wouldn't happen to be using framebuffer console?


Yes.


if you are.. you should stop, fb console isn't all it's cranked up to be :)


Since posting this and subsequent upgrades, all is well. :)

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Re: [e-users] CVS Servers - YOU CAN HELP! (STATUS)

2006-02-19 Thread Geoffrey

David Seikel wrote:

On Mon, 20 Feb 2006 09:46:53 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



any further - any more suggestions?



Probably time to start the What OS should it run? flame war now.  B-)

Even though I don't use it on the desktop, Debian Stable always gets
recommended by me for network servers that need to be rock solid and
have ample bandwidth.  For two reasons.  Debian Stable is very stable
due to the very conservative nature of the Debian process of producing
what they call Stable.  It's old versions of software that have been
around for long enough to prove that they are problem free, but with
the latest security patches.  The second reason is that you can't go
past the Debian update procedure if you have bandwidth to spare.

In this case there is a third reason, raster uses Debian.  B-)


And Debian stable is also very old because of the approach Debian takes 
to updates.  I'm very likely fighting a loosing battle here, but I'd go 
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Re: [e-users] compilation of themes failing?

2006-02-17 Thread Geoffrey
Mitch Gorman wrote:
 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
 
 
   just a wild, uneducated guess, but it looks like someone may've 
fat-fingered an attempt to type getFRAG into getFARG.  check the 
.edc, and the build.sh script.
   


actually - no getfarg is get floatingpoint argument :) its shorthand in
embryo :)
 

 
 
 well, it seemed logical, at the time... ;)

Reminds me of a variable name in an app we spent a very long time trying
to figure it's purpose.  The name was 'porc'  and it turned out to
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Re: [e-users] Re: [E-devel] Continuing... Anonymous CVS Servers - YOU CAN HELP!

2006-02-10 Thread Geoffrey
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
 On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 20:57:26 -0500 Geoffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 babbled:
 
 
 Ed Presutti wrote:
 
 Geoffrey,
 
 I have a friend in sales at Monarch that might be helpful in
 these matters. Let me know if you need an assist.
 
 Well, I stopped by Monarch and inquired as to the possibility of 
 providing some sponsorship.  I was informed that the marketing
 people will only see you by appointment and that sponsorship is
 only addressed via email.  I've not heard back from the email
 message I sent.
 
 Needless to say, I was quite disappointed in the whole thing.
 Maybe we'll have better luck with another vendor.
 
 
 not overly surprising though :)

Except for the fact that they could at least respond to the email.  Not
exactly good PR or customer relations.

The guy at the shop acted like I was putting him out as well.  That's
not the way they will continue to get my business.  Then again, why
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Re: [e-users] Re: [E-devel] Continuing... Anonymous CVS Servers - YOU CAN HELP!

2006-02-09 Thread Geoffrey

Ed Presutti wrote:

Geoffrey,

I have a friend in sales at Monarch that might be helpful in these
matters. Let me know if you need an assist.


Well, I stopped by Monarch and inquired as to the possibility of 
providing some sponsorship.  I was informed that the marketing people 
will only see you by appointment and that sponsorship is only addressed 
via email.  I've not heard back from the email message I sent.


Needless to say, I was quite disappointed in the whole thing.  Maybe 
we'll have better luck with another vendor.


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Re: [e-users] Re: [E-devel] Continuing... Anonymous CVS Servers - YOU CAN HELP!

2006-02-07 Thread Geoffrey

Ed Presutti wrote:

Geoffrey,

I have a friend in sales at Monarch that might be helpful in these
matters. Let me know if you need an assist.


Thanks, I've not heard back from them, but I'll give them to the end of 
the week.  If I've not heard anything by then I'll drop you a line and 
we'll see if we can get things moving.


Thanks again.



Thanks,
Ed Presutti (ekrunch on freenode)

On Sun, 2006-02-05 at 01:11 -0500, Geoffrey wrote:


Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:


On Sat, 04 Feb 2006 10:01:53 -0500 Geoffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
babbled:




Geoffrey wrote:



Just for the hell of it, I called Monarch Computer her in Georgia
and


Well, I've not seen much response regarding me contacting Monarch.
Is there an objection?  Should I take the silence as a
recommendation for or against?  I'm not sure who would be the one
to make this 'decision.'

Just the same, I sent an email message to the marketing folks at
Monarch to see what the might have to say.



I would say give them a ping and see - there's more than one thing in
the pipe atm. i'm aqctually TRYING to write code for once - but it
seems that the moment i try - people get antsy that i dont do my
email! :)


Well I would much rather you write code. :)  Ping of Monarch has gone out.








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Re: [e-users] Re: [E-devel] Continuing... Anonymous CVS Servers - YOU CAN HELP!

2006-02-07 Thread Geoffrey
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
 On Tue, 07 Feb 2006 21:49:26 -0600 Ed Presutti
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
 
 
 Geoffrey,
 
 I have a friend in sales at Monarch that might be helpful in these 
 matters. Let me know if you need an assist.
 
 
 send a ping and see. ben has sent off a ping to another hw vendor to
 see if they will want to sponsor us with freebie servers as well - so
 i'm waiting on the results of tyring to get freebies before moving
 any more towards buying our own.

I just put my brain in gear and realized I'll be out Monarch's way
tomorrow and Thursday.  I think I'll stop.  A face to face might be
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Re: [e-users] Re: [E-devel] Continuing... Anonymous CVS Servers - YOU CAN HELP!

2006-02-04 Thread Geoffrey
Geoffrey wrote:
 Just for the hell of it, I called Monarch Computer her in Georgia and

Well, I've not seen much response regarding me contacting Monarch.  Is
there an objection?  Should I take the silence as a recommendation for
or against?  I'm not sure who would be the one to make this 'decision.'

Just the same, I sent an email message to the marketing folks at Monarch
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Re: [e-users] Re: [E-devel] Continuing... Anonymous CVS Servers - YOU CAN HELP!

2006-02-04 Thread Geoffrey
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
 On Sat, 04 Feb 2006 10:01:53 -0500 Geoffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 babbled:
 
 
 Geoffrey wrote:
 
 Just for the hell of it, I called Monarch Computer her in Georgia
 and
 
 Well, I've not seen much response regarding me contacting Monarch.
 Is there an objection?  Should I take the silence as a
 recommendation for or against?  I'm not sure who would be the one
 to make this 'decision.'
 
 Just the same, I sent an email message to the marketing folks at
 Monarch to see what the might have to say.
 
 
 I would say give them a ping and see - there's more than one thing in
 the pipe atm. i'm aqctually TRYING to write code for once - but it
 seems that the moment i try - people get antsy that i dont do my
 email! :)

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Re: [e-users] Re: [E-devel] Continuing... Anonymous CVS Servers - YOU CAN HELP!

2006-02-03 Thread Geoffrey
Just for the hell of it, I called Monarch Computer her in Georgia and
talked to them about the possibility of either donating hardware or
reducing the cost for the sake of an open source project.

That being said, I was told that I should send an email to the marketing
department.

It makes sense to me, but I'm not someone who would such a decision,
although I'm sure the Enlightenment developers and users wouldn't turn
down a deal if it was offered.

So, the question is, should I go for it, should someone else do this?
What can we offer in return?  Links off the E website?

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Re: [e-users] Continuing... Anonymous CVS Servers - YOU CAN HELP!

2006-01-31 Thread Geoffrey
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
 Ok - sorry for being a bit quiet. I've had the flu and have been out
 of any energy to do anything over the last 4 days or so.
 
 I've let this thread move along and see what people have to say. It
 seems there is sufficient support to make this happen - and since we
 have bandwidth and hosting provided for - the only burden on us is
 getting hardware together. ok - i've taken a stab at it here are 2
 examples (Taken from dell because its easy to select things and geta
 price immediately):

I hope the dell examples are just examples.  I've heard all kinds of
folks (particularily on the postgresql lists) who have had nothing but
trouble out of Dell servers.  I like Monarch Computer and you can pick
and choose your hardware.  Further, they do Linux. :)  Also, I can drive
to their location, thus if we need to do some price discussion, I'd be
willing to do it in person.  Maybe we should hit them up for some FREE
hardware? I've picked a couple of comparable systems:

 PowerEdge 850 (1u): Pentium D Dual core 3.2Ghz 2x1MB L2 Cache, 2GB
 667MHz DDR RAM, SATA Raid Controller, 2x250GB SATA 7200rpm Drives,
 24x speed CD. Standard next business day on site warranty support
 (nothing special) = $2744

Dual Opteron 250s 2.4Ghz (64/32bit), 2x400 SATA 7200 drives, 2gig ddr
(400) 3200 ECC ram, 16x DL DVD+/-, Fedora Core 4.

This is the stock setup, you can tweak it on this link (swap the DVD for
a cdrom...):

http://tinyurl.com/dezfv  From this page, scroll down to the 'price
point' box and select 'around $3000'  The box above is just under $3000

 
 PowerEdge 1850 (2u): 3Ghz Xeon 2MB L2 Cache x 2, 2GB 400Mhz DDR RAM,
 SCSI Raid Controller, 2x146GB SCSI 1rpm Drives, 24x speed CDROM.
 Standard next business day on site warranty support (nothing special)
 = $4272

Dual Opteron 275 Dual-Core 2.2Ghz 1MB, everything else is the same as
the Opteron box above. $4085

 
 This is a SAMPLE. I personally would take the first option - cheaper,
 likely overall the same spee (depends what u are doing though). ie
 faster memory bus, but less l2 cache, but a tiny bit more ghz.
 7200v1rpm - etc.
 
 anyway - do other peolp eant to investigate options elsewhere?

 NB: to people offering i have a raid controller you can use or i
 may have a spare cpu - that's great - thanks, but really
 impractical.

Agreed.

 Anyway - so what do you guys think? to me it seesm as if we have a
 target of about $3500 to meet at this stage (we need some extra for
 shipping and handling, and then some extra in the kitty for when
 warranty runs out and we need new parts or we need to ship someone up
 to the server to fix it etc. or whatever - i also just like
 over-estimating costs and coiming out with a pleasant surprise)

Where will the box reside?  (Geographically)

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Re: [e-users] OpenGL rendering

2006-01-30 Thread Geoffrey
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
 On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 23:41:48 +1100 Daniel Kasak [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 babbled:
 
 
Скворцов Никита wrote:


Good day!

I was wondering, if anybody is using E17 with OpenGL rendering engine
as default? Is it stable in any way? At least workable? =)
 


It's not ready yet.
Rest assured there will be plenty of discussion on the topic when it is 
ready :)
 
 
 it never will be. move on. next.

Ah, so the discussion has already started! :)

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Re: [e-users] E16: run script on startup?

2006-01-30 Thread Geoffrey

Michael Hughes wrote:

Evan et al

  $HOME/.e16/Init
  $HOME/.e16/Start
  $HOME/.e16/Stop

Note that this is new for 0.16.8.  It does not work with 0.16.7 (which I 
am using).  It looks like getting my personal theme moved over to 0.16.8 
may be a major headache.  If so, I may just go to E17.


Dive on in the water's great!

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Re: [e-users] Difficult names and no icons...

2006-01-27 Thread Geoffrey

David Seikel wrote:

On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 11:31:30 +0100 Andreas Volz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:



I think these names are _really_ smart. Worse luck that Explorer is
yet reserved, so this would be a great name for an E filemanager.



Explorer is only reserved for one particular OS that is not anywhere
near the top of the list of OS's that we care about.  There is no
restriction on it's use in E.


True, but I can't see using it as it leaves such a nasty taste in my 
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Re: [e-users] Difficult names and no icons...

2006-01-26 Thread Geoffrey

Christian Walther wrote:

Same with me...

I installed all e-related Apps I could find using their ebuilds, but
it was hard to remember their names. So I went through my old CVS-tree
and looked at the READMEs. I created a small text file that contains a
list of the app names and their purpose.

So far, I think that Entrance is very cool name for a xdm
replacement and I like Engange as an iconbar (e.g. something to
start Apps/keep running Apps on). Needs a bit of thinking, at least
for me, but since I'm not a native english speaker it might be a
difference anyway.
Evidence is nice for a file manager, I think. As I heard the name for
the first time I didn't know what it's purpose was, but since I got to
know it it's quite easy.

eRSS doesn't need any further explanation. ;-)


I think there was at least an attempt to choose names that make sense, 
although, in some cases it's the afterthought that makes you realize why 
that was the name given. (find out Entrance is an xdm replacement and 
the light goes on...)


I'm glad that it's not been the KDE approach, that is, throw a K in 
front of a word that works.



For the rest of the Apps I have the list mentioned above. I currently
know Eclair and Entice, too, because I use them regularly.


I just new Entice was going to be some pr0n application. And Eclair a 
desert recipe tracking app..


I think a nice icon will do a good job to make life easier.


I would agree, but I also would prefer the current developers continue 
to focus on the code.  I'd love to give a shot at creating some icons, 
but I'm afraid that might be something a developer might want to keep 
'as there own.'  You know, kinda like a logo or something.


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Re: [e-users] Difficult names and no icons...

2006-01-26 Thread Geoffrey

Michael Jennings wrote:


I have said this many, many times.  No one cares.  So don't waste your
breath.  Most of them just pick random 'e' words off a list because
they're cool and don't give a shit whether or not it makes sense to
name an app with that word.


Now I love that approach! :)

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Re: [e-users] Anonymous CVS Servers - YOU CAN HELP!

2006-01-25 Thread Geoffrey

David Seikel wrote:


Should devs continue to use sf.net cvs, or do we want to move
development to the new server once all the teething problems are sorted
out and it's rock solid?  sf.net dev cvs is a lot less problematic than
anon, coz if it sucks too much devs won't use it, and if devs don't use
it, then sourceforge won't have any source to forge.


I think spreading the load between a new server and sf.net would be a 
good thing.  Permit only devs to get to sf.net, if folks think that 
would be sufficient.  Everyone else goes to the new server.


Unless sf.net would be slower then the new server for devs.  The devs 
should have priority access.


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Re: [e-users] Warp?

2006-01-25 Thread Geoffrey

Anders Troback wrote:

OK, now I get it, thanks daddy:-D


Wow, I never would have imagined..

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Re: [e-users] Anonymous CVS Servers - YOU CAN HELP!

2006-01-25 Thread Geoffrey
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:

 Now if enough users are willing to donate something - like $20 or $50
 here and there we can afford such a machine and thus bring CVS access
 and source access up to top level standards.

I'm in, where do I send the ?

 This mail is meant to do 3 things.
 
 1. Consider if this is a sane option at all (IMHO with a little work
 it is and opens up lots of future possibilities).

I like it.

 2. If so - what box do we really need? 

I'm not a good one to assist with this, I've not dealt with anything
that provides such services. :(

 3. Are people willing to donate enough $ to make it happen?

I hope so.

 
 So what do you guys think?

Let's do it.  How will the $$$ be handled?  Who will purchase the
hardware, where will it physically be located (that is, where is



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Re: [E-devel] Re: [e-users] Anonymous CVS Servers - YOU CAN HELP!

2006-01-25 Thread Geoffrey

Nathan Ingersoll wrote:

For those looking to donate, there is a small button on the left side of the
menus on enlightenment.org below the navigation menu. This actually takes
you to the SF donation page.

As we are talking about donations to move away from SF, I would argue that
we shouldn't pay their transaction fee in this case, but that is up to your
discretion. If you would like to donate directly and bypass the fee you can
submit a donation via Paypal to my email address. This is where the
donations end up at the present time anyways.

We currently have some funds from previous donations, but considering the
level of hardware we're discussing, I'd estimate that we only have 1/5 to
1/3 of what we need (at best).


Can anyone put a $ amount on what will be needed?


While I don't want to discourage donations, we could definitely use those,
we do have some list members with considerable resources. If someone has
access to systems that would meet the needs raster outlined in his email,
and is willing to donate/discount them for E hosting, please let us know. A
dedicated server would be very nice to have, but we also take on the
administrative headache with the benefits and responsibility for hardware
upgrades/maintenance.


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Re: [E-devel] Re: [e-users] Anonymous CVS Servers - YOU CAN HELP!

2006-01-25 Thread Geoffrey

Nathan Ingersoll wrote:

For those looking to donate, there is a small button on the left side of the
menus on enlightenment.org below the navigation menu. This actually takes
you to the SF donation page.

As we are talking about donations to move away from SF, I would argue that
we shouldn't pay their transaction fee in this case, but that is up to your
discretion. If you would like to donate directly and bypass the fee you can
submit a donation via Paypal to my email address. This is where the
donations end up at the present time anyways.


Assuming that would be [EMAIL PROTECTED] ???


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Re: [e-users] desktop freezing like in windows xp

2006-01-24 Thread Geoffrey

Raif Sarcich wrote:




if you run top - is somehting wrong. is e like usign up 2gb of ram? or is
somehting eatign cpu? if so - what? or eating ram


  
The crash happened again yesterday and i have attached the output from top
during that crash. No major RAM eating going on, but the enlightenment process
was using between 61-65% cpu. And as per previous crashes, I could not kill -9
enlightenment, but was able to switch to a terminal, shut down the computer,
etc, whilst there was continuous flickering disk activity. I think it was
frozen bubble (!) that I was using when it crashed this time, but konqueror
was open.


How old is the version of frozen-bubble?  I can recall specific 
instances where it would lock up and really eat up cpu.  I don't see 
that anymore on later versions.  I've even tried to reproduce it.


One other thing you might consider.  It could be remotely possible that 
our kill attempt hasn't had time to get to the process you're trying to 
kill.  I've seen attempts at trying to kill a process take a good while 
when cpu usage is high.


If you can reproduce the problem, try killing frozen-bubble first.  As 
long as you're not running out of memory, just wait a while and see if 
it eventually goes away.


I know that when I was having the problem with frozen-bubble, it was 
very specific.  This happened only in chain_reaction mode as follows:


1. A marble that I had just brought down was returning up (because of 
the chain_reaction mode) and it was going to finish the marbles left.
2. I attempted to fire another marble whilst the aforementioned marble 
was returning up.


Unless you've used the chain_reaction mode, you may not understand what 
I've just said.  Check it out though, it makes for a faster game. :)


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Re: [e-users] Thinktux.net CVS Mirror

2006-01-24 Thread Geoffrey
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
 On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 18:56:02 +0100 Pascal Schwarz [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
 
 
We got some problems with our mirror, we need to get another server.

Details available here:
http://pascal-schwarz.ch/blog/index.php/2006/01/23/e17-cvs-mirror-news/
 
 
 that's sad - but ineivtable.

Is there anything out there like a bittorrent cvs solution???

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