[EVDL] Test message 20140507 23:02

2014-05-07 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
No reply needed just yet. David Roden EVDL Administrator http://www.evdl.org/ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA

Re: [EVDL] List From Addresses

2014-05-08 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 8 May 2014 at 11:23, John Lussmyer via EV wrote: Why are the list From: addresses of the form: From: Persons Name via EV ev@lists.evdl.org Rather than the users normal email address? The mail format changed with last night's upgrade of the listserver software. With new mail

Re: [EVDL] Talked with Bruce

2014-05-08 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
Gail, many thanks for the report! It's good to hear he's on the road to recovery. David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL Administrator = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = EVDL Information: http://www.evdl.org/help/ = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =

Re: [EVDL] Battery post - Best Practice

2014-05-09 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 9 May 2014 at 18:11, Roger Daisley via EV wrote: I am going to give the Costco 6v golf cart Batteries a try. I just hauled home 18 of them. (56 lbs, ea.) Those are pretty light golf car batteries! I'm used to GC batteries that weigh between 62 and 67 lb each. I'd expect yours to have

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Tesla Drops Using 'Model E' Trademark

2014-05-15 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 15 May 2014 at 16:23, fotajoye via EV wrote: Some are suggesting Model T. Three pedals on the floor, and none of them is an accelerator! ;-) David Roden EVDL Administrator http://www.evdl.org/ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE:

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: GM moving Spark pack production to suburban Detroit factory

2014-05-19 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 19 May 2014 at 2:53, brucedp5 via EV wrote: GM also announced that the 2015 Spark EV ... will have a battery system weight of 474 pounds, which is 86 pounds lighter than the 2014 model. It will have storage capacity of 19 kilowatts and use 192 lithium ion cells ... The lighter Spark EV

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: spectrum.ieee looks @Tesla-X and its fabulous Falcon-Doors

2014-05-19 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
If they could manage to make a multi-thousand-cell battery reliable, I expect they'll be able to solve the sealing problem. They may even be able to make them more or less usable and convenient. Will potential buyers think them cool and high-tech, or just weird and annoying? We shall see.

Re: [EVDL] Fwd: NEW Dual Carbon Battery from POWER JAPAN PLUS

2014-05-21 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 21 May 2014 at 19:33, Geoff Pullinger via EV wrote: In order that we may get around the whole 'new battery technology' vaporware issue ( and get some decent power for ev's ) we need something that is not a battery. I don't know what that would be but the whole idea of storing electricity

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Toyota Drops RAV4-EV-gen2, shifting to h2

2014-05-21 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 21 May 2014 at 17:26, Mike Nickerson via EV wrote: If you start with fossil fuels, the efficiency is more balanced. You lose quite a bit of the energy in the generation plant, or the hydrogen production and fuel cell, but it is about the same in both cases. You may be right, though my

Re: [EVDL] How I learned to stop worrying and love autonomous-driving wireless-charging

2014-05-22 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 22 May 2014 at 18:37, Dennis Miles via EV wrote: I have lived in many cities around the this world from New York to Tokyo and they all had autonomous vehicles for the drunkards and transients unfamiliar with their city. We called them TAXIs. Interesting that you mention Tokyo. I think

Re: [EVDL] big oil

2014-05-24 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 24 May 2014 at 7:37, Electric Blue auto convertions via EV wrote: Im getting sick and tired of hearing people blaming big oil for all the worlds problems. Our modern society is built on and dependent on petroleum. We have sophisticated plastics. We have air travel. We have space

Re: [EVDL] big oil

2014-05-25 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
Folks, let's be careful please - this thread is turning political. Next thing you know we'll have big flames blasting. Let's keep the flames in the ICEVs' cylinders, where they belong. Thanks! David Roden EVDL Administrator http://www.evdl.org/

[EVDL] EVDL business: Delayed posts, sorry

2014-05-25 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
In the last few days, several posts have been delayed in making it to the list, and a couple have been rejected. (I don't think any were actually lost.) A few things caused this. First, the recent revisions to the list software to make it work with Yahoo's and AOL's over-the-top security

Re: [EVDL] Solar roadways.

2014-05-26 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 26 May 2014 at 12:09, Michael Ross via EV wrote: Interesting and not surprising to many EV types, the Prius was found slightly less environmentally favorable than said Hummer. Great clickbait! And, like most clickbait, it's rubbish. These studies are complex and are typically built on a

Re: [EVDL] Cable Compatibility Within Conduits

2014-05-28 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 27 May 2014 at 14:40, Jan Steinman via EV wrote: I'd be tempted to run two conduits, one with the low side cables, and the other with the high side cables. I don't know what you mean by low side and high side in this context. If you mean positive and negative, I'd have to disagree.

Re: [EVDL] EV Digest, Vol 19, Issue 39 - OTT

2014-05-28 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
Folks, this thread is getting pretty far off topic. Let's get back to EVs, please. David Roden EVDL Administrator http://www.evdl.org/ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV

Re: [EVDL] EV Digest, Vol 19, Issue 39 - OTT

2014-05-30 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
This thread is now totally off topic. Time to call it done, methinks. Thanks. David Roden EVDL Administrator http://www.evdl.org/ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag

Re: [EVDL] Insuring EV conversions in Minnesota?

2014-05-31 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 29 May 2014 at 13:23, Morgan LaMoore via EV wrote: Which insurance companies have sold insurance for EV conversions in Minnesota? I know Lee Hart and some others have conversions in Minnesota. My insurance is from Westfield, though an independent agent. I have had good service from them

Re: [EVDL] FLA battery terminals lugs

2014-05-31 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 28 May 2014 at 22:15, Chris Tromley via EV wrote: For years, I've used the studs on top of automotive terminals with lugs, and had only one failure. However, these were lower current applications - current limits of 200 to 400 amps. I would not recommend them for anything in the 500a and

Re: [EVDL] Thermistor to use with 7cell Nimh pack.

2014-05-31 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 31 May 2014 at 16:11, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote: I'm building a small 7 cell pack with two strings(14 total) of Nimh. 4ah.   I'll be using a generic 10 buck charger designed for 7 cells. I seem to recall that charging NiMH batteries in parallel is not a good idea. I don't remember the

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Grandpa Granny EVs for Chinese pensioners

2014-06-01 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
Reminds me of the Flybo that was imported for a while and sold (IIRC) on Ebay. It was visually almost a Smart clone. http://www.treehugger.com/cars/flybo-arrives-on-us-shores-updated.html Sold for $10k, which struck me as a bit much for what it was - 48v, 25mph top speed, reportedly very

Re: [EVDL] Suitcase EV.

2014-06-02 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
If he can pack his clothes in that bag and drive it to the airport, he'll have something. Otherwise, it's just a gimmick, and not a very comfortable looking ride at that. As for me, I'm still waiting for George Jetson's air-car-in-a-briefcase - electric, of course. ;-) David Roden - Akron,

Re: [EVDL] BINGO - Local PBS Station will AIR John Metric's 165 mph RUN

2014-06-24 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 24 Jun 2014 at 13:40, Steven Lough via EV wrote: So this little 1 minute or less segment WILL PLAY tomorrow 6/25 on PBS KUOW Seattle 94.9 Congratulations! For your future dealings with KUOW - and for others who have any dealings with a local public radio station - you may want to

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: I Want An EV Instead Of A 2015 Mustang-ice What both cars mean

2014-06-25 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 25 Jun 2014 at 5:44, brucedp5 via EV wrote: getting stuck for another decade with a Mustang that is still, at its core, the same vehicle it's been for the past 50 years just seems.backwards. Well said. It's about time someone realized that this is where the automobile industry is stuck.

[EVDL] No politics, please

2014-06-25 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
Folks, a couple of threads here are edging into politics. There be dragons! Let's not get into flame wars. Please check your political views at the door and stick to discussing EVs here. Thanks. David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL Administrator = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =

Re: [EVDL] 1925 'T'

2014-06-25 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
I repeat - no politics, please. (That's what this is really about.) It's off topic, too. The original post in this thread was provocative - I might even say trollish. Don't take the bait. Thanks, David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL Administrator = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =

Re: [EVDL] No politics, please

2014-06-25 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 25 Jun 2014 at 12:17, Michael Ross via EV wrote: I am interested in other peoples politics, but not getting hollered at. It is the flames, not the ideas that are a problem, not so? Some places have lively, animated, intelligent discussions about politics. (I hear that's the way it goes

Re: [EVDL] No politics, please

2014-06-25 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 25 Jun 2014 at 12:17, Michael Ross via EV wrote: I am interested in other peoples politics, but not getting hollered at. It is the flames, not the ideas that are a problem, not so? Some places have lively, animated, intelligent discussions about politics. (I hear that's the way it goes

Re: [EVDL] Hydrogen/EV thoughts (EV emissions)

2014-06-26 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
BEVs will run on electricity you can make on your rooftop or back yard. Try that with an ICEV or FCV. It can be done (veggie van anyone?), but the cost and complexity can be daunting and it's not for the average guy. The big energy companies like the idea of FCVs because it preserves their

Re: [EVDL] Hydrogen/EV thoughts (EV emissions)

2014-06-26 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 26 Jun 2014 at 13:00, Mark Abramowitz via EV wrote: Your premise is wrong. The big energy companies do *not* like FCVs. I suspect that they'd much prefer them to BEVs. Remember, hydrogen is not really a fuel. You can't pump it out of the ground. You have to make it from some other

Re: [EVDL] EV potential - Postal Service and 7 MPG average

2014-06-29 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
It seems like a natural, doesn't it? However, over the years, the USPS has run several trials of EVs. None of them has ever resulted in significant additions of EVs to their regular fleet. Similarly, there have been many pilot programs in Europe. I don't know of any which has yet resulted

Re: [EVDL] What serious EVs are available, at what price how do they compare?

2014-07-08 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 8 Jul 2014 at 11:05, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: For an extra $500 per hour for a 30 minute highway charge? I don't think so. I've read this over 4 times, and I'm still having trouble understanding your point with it. I guess I'm still missing something. is it worth an extra $26,000

Re: [EVDL] Trailer type Range extenders

2014-07-10 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 9 Jul 2014 at 14:59, Dennis Miles via EV wrote: just put a battery pack in the trailer and a motor on the wheel, a simple relay to turn the motor on and as your EV becomes discharged ... Push your EV with the range extender trailer and use regenerative braking of your EV to charge your EV

Re: [EVDL] Trailer type Range extenders

2014-07-10 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 10 Jul 2014 at 9:07, Mark Grasser via EV wrote: http://imagebin.org/315432 Be warned, Chrome says this link has malware. I did a view-source just now, and saw nothing untoward. However, I use noscript ... Google has this to say about Imagebin.

Re: [EVDL] Trailer type Range extenders

2014-07-10 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 10 Jul 2014 at 6:30, jerry freedomev via EV wrote: I prefer making my own using go cart racing engines which are low cost, lightweight, easy to find hotrod parts and have stock carbs that run on ethanol, methanol, propane or NG.  By hotrodding them you get more power/lb and can make them

[EVDL] EVDL biz: safe photo posting (was Trailer type Range extenders)

2014-07-11 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 11 Jul 2014 at 2:23, Bruce EVangel Parmenter via EV wrote: Here is the image's direct URL (which Firefox-30.0 Windows-version browser still has a malware warning on): http://imagebin.org/index.php?mode=imageid=315432 I don't know for sure, but it appears to me that the browser warnings are

Re: [EVDL] Subject: EVLN: TMC high-efficiency ?free piston? no-crankshaft, pih-ice

2014-07-13 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 14 Jul 2014 at 7:25, Marc de Piolenc via EV wrote: I take it that hybrid discussion is now allowed? Uhhh weeel let's just say this : 1. The factory hybrids are pretty well covered in many of their own forums on the net, so I've never seen much need to discuss them here. 2.

Re: [EVDL] Controller page updates

2014-07-16 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
Looks good in Seamonkey 2.15.2 (2013) - and without javascript. Also works fine, if a little less elegantly, in Midori 0.2.2 (2009) and QtWeb 3.7.3 (2011). Dillo 2.2 (2010) didn't show the iframe, but it did display the alternate text with its link to the non-fancy page. Opera Mini

Re: [EVDL] How crazy am I?

2014-07-19 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
Hi Ben, I'm a little surprised at the light response you've gotten to your question. I would have thought there'd be more folks here who at least have put some thought into homebrewing a hybrid this way, if not done it themselves. So, even though I'm about the worst person to do so since I'm a

Re: [EVDL] How crazy am I?

2014-07-21 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 21 Jul 2014 at 14:12, Ben Goren via EV wrote: I'm really only looking for a battery pack big enough for local trips; a couple dozen miles would be plenty. I suspect that the smallest pack that puts out the necessary voltage is going to be just about the right size ... Hmm. Maybe. Let's

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: BMWDaimler developing 3-Hour Wireless Inductive EVSE for i3 EV

2014-07-21 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 21 Jul 2014 at 4:20, Dennis Miles via EV wrote: Or use copper plated aluminum wire as it is not worth nearly so much for metal scrap... each strand of the aluminum is coated with copper, they are nearly useless for recycling and that means they won't be stolen, but they work for electrical

Re: [EVDL] How crazy am I?

2014-07-22 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
Another factor to consider is that while power capability varies by design, as a general rule, smaller cells are usually capable of lower power output. For example, the CALB 40ah cells I mentioned are rated for a maximum discharge of 2C (80 amps). At 144v, 80a is 11.5kW. Allowing for losses,

Re: [EVDL] How crazy am I?

2014-07-22 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 22 Jul 2014 at 10:24, Ben Goren via EV wrote: Wikipedia says curb weight is 2,445. I don't see this ending up at 3,500 after conversion...but I also like estimating pessimistically. I see that too. But that's probably for an early 170 six with 3-speed stick and no options. Remember, in

Re: [EVDL] Hybrid Mustang: Motor control

2014-07-24 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
You are now WAY beyond my pay grade here. I can only say that IMO any time you have a computer controlling something that acts like a throttle, you want to put a LOT of time into debugging the code, have multiple ways to detect failures, and have multiple ways to shut things down in case

Re: [EVDL] Hybrid Mustang: batteries

2014-07-24 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 24 Jul 2014 at 23:59, Ben Apollonio via EV wrote: Too bad A123 went under ... You could consider the EnerDel high-power modules ... You might also try looking into Dow Kokam cells (www.kokam.com). ... That's what I was thinking of when I said a while back, If you expect sporty,

Re: [EVDL] leaf blowers

2014-07-25 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 24 Jul 2014 at 1:16, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: Since this is off topic, please respond to me directly. I hate to get on anybody's case, but although I find this thread somewhat interesting, it IS off topic. Could you folks please do as Peri requested in the original post and respond OFF

Re: [EVDL] Hybrid Mustang: batteries

2014-07-26 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 26 Jul 2014 at 8:24, Ben Goren via EV wrote: At 55 MPH with the 4.11 is 3000 RPM; with a single AC-51, that's 22 hp. The single motor would be okay... At the slow end...1000 RPM is ~19 MPH. Five horsepower might not cut it by itself, and 15 MPH school zones might be a problem... IIRC,

[EVDL] EVDL biz: H2 and FCEV discussion

2014-07-29 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
The original EVDL charter, written by our founder Clyde Visser back in the internet's dim past (1991) says, the energy storage device [for an EV] ... can [be a] ... fuel cell ... But not too far into this long history of the EVDL - I think about 1995 or so - we had a pretty detailed discussion

Re: [EVDL] Hybrid Mustang: AC or DC?

2014-08-02 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 2 Aug 2014 at 11:52, Willie2 via EV wrote: I'm eager to hear of conversion air conditioner success stories. Solectria vehicles retained the factory Geo Metro aircon system, and drove the compressor with a small (1hp?) DC brushless motor and controller. The system seems to have been

Re: [EVDL] As an aid when recommending an EV to someone else,

2014-08-03 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 3 Aug 2014 at 19:58, Roland via EV wrote: You would think that going up and down a hill would take more kwh's more than the same distance you would drive on a level grade. This is where regen comes in. While you won't get all your uphill energy back going down, it certainly does help.

Re: [EVDL] Hybrid Mustang: AC or DC?

2014-08-05 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 5 Aug 2014 at 5:54, Chris Meier via EV wrote: The indoor units come in various shapes/styles, including 'cassette' for in_ceiling or air duct. Some of the dealers may appreciate the challenge. Give one a call. I hope your dealers are more experienced and flexible than the ones I worked

Re: [EVDL] Hybrid Mustang: motorcycle drivetrain?

2014-08-06 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 6 Aug 2014 at 3:37, Dennis Miles via EV wrote: Ben, autos stopped using chain or belt drives 80 years ago ... Thank goodness! Imagine having to crawl under your car to clean and lube the chain every month or so. That's something to think about for this Mustang hybrid conversion - how

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: i3 EV self-parks driver climbs out of window to prove (video)

2014-08-06 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
Folks, this thread is interesting, but it's wandered pretty far off topic. Can we let it slide now, please? Thanks, David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL Administrator = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = EVDL Information: http://www.evdl.org/help/ = = = = = = = = = = = = =

Re: [EVDL] Flooded lead-acid ooopsie and how to correct best?

2014-08-11 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 11 Aug 2014 at 12:55, Cor van de Water via EV wrote: I am not sure why one battery remains sealed and clean, while another one constantly weeps elecrolyte. ... I am using the ganged caps that allow all 3 holes to be opened/closed together. The second sentence is the answer to the first.

Re: [EVDL] Protecting DC PWM Controller from low inductance/resistance motors

2014-08-12 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 08/11/2014 08:37 PM, Chris Tromley via EV wrote: Also, I've never heard of anyone with an electric motor with a manual transmission or direct drive that chooses to use the clutch. That's generally considered an awkward work-around for a problem that should be fixed. On 12 Aug 2014 at

Re: [EVDL] Regen : Conversion advice

2014-08-12 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 12 Aug 2014 at 19:59, Mike Nickerson via EV wrote: I think the hoses are acting as a reservoir. That's the way Solectria did it. They wound several feet of vacuum hose round the pump before routing the end to the brake booster. It worked fine. It was almost elegant in its simplicity.

Re: [EVDL] CALB bolt terminals getting hot -

2014-08-16 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 16 Aug 2014 at 14:04, Lee Hart via EV wrote: The technique has been described many times on the EVDL. It must be in the archives somewhere. Before I type it all in yet again, maybe we can find it? Here's one method. http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html#nabble-td4657626|a4657642 Just

Re: [EVDL] CALB bolt terminals getting hot -

2014-08-19 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 19 Aug 2014 at 15:48, Willie2 via EV wrote: Please inform me if my Google+ page is not visible to all: https://plus.google.com/102434734002949174273/posts Perhaps one has to be logged on to Google? I didn't think so. I had no trouble seeing your page, and I'm not logged in to Google.

[EVDL] EVDL biz: Hydrogen and fuel cells discussion

2014-08-20 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
Although the original 1991 EVDL charter mentions fuel cells, the list decided by consensus nearly 20 years ago that we'd minimize discussion of H2 and fuel cells. IIRC, the main reason was that the discussion tended to create a fair bit of heat, but not very much light. That doesn't seem to

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: As EV battery prices fall ?More range or lower 100mi EV cost?

2014-08-28 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 28 Aug 2014 at 13:47, Ed Blackmond via EV wrote: I see this as the way to make the econobox electric vehicles possible. The Nissan Leaf would sell for the same price as its essential twin the Versa and the battery pack would be leased. This is what Renault (Nissan's French partner) is

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: As EV battery prices fall ?More range or lower 100mi EV cost?

2014-08-28 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 28 Aug 2014 at 14:49, Ben Goren via EV wrote: an econobox that costs more -- that costs as much to purchase, as much to lease the battery as buy the gas, and then you have to pay for the electricity on top of it? And still has limited range and probably very slow charging? Who's going to

Re: [EVDL] 241 mph on the salt....

2014-08-28 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 28 Aug 2014 at 18:44, Bill Dube via EV wrote: Today, we did 241 mph with a 239 mph back-up run in the opposite direction. (Official record will be ~240 mph.) Well done! Congratulations! David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL Administrator = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: As EV battery prices fall ?More range or lower 100mi EV cost?

2014-08-29 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 29 Aug 2014 at 9:38, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: We need to stop focusing on range (and public charging). Focus on educating drivers of the EV value-promise. Maybe I'm just seeing this with older eyes than you are, but it seems to me that we've been trying to do just that for nearly a

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Menacing Copper-Theives A 'Cut Steal' EVSE Scourge

2014-08-31 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 31 Aug 2014 at 8:06, Geoffrey Pullinger via EV wrote: If you wrap a wire around the cable and hook it up to the fence charger I'm guessing any would be copper thieves will be somewhat discouraged by a large jolt. Ma, I wanna plug the car in. Can I plezzze? Sure, Bobby. I'll get

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: CA Initiatives Ca$h-in A Clunker Buy An EV

2014-09-06 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 6 Sep 2014 at 1:25, brucedp5 via EV wrote: Provision supposition $70+k buyers don't need financial incentives Among the provisions of the Charge Ahead California Initiative, or Senate Bill 1275, is one that funds vouchers specifically targeting lower-income Californians and communities

Re: [EVDL] Earth Drive-Electric Week

2014-09-06 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 6 Sep 2014 at 19:16, Rush Dougherty via EV wrote: Now here's a true supporter of EV's , he 'dephased' their event! Not to put words in his mouth, but I think he means rescheduled. As someone who's currently wrestling with learning another language (more of a challenge now than it was in my

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Kawasaki Concept J 3wheel GIGACELL powered EV

2014-09-09 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 9 Sep 2014 at 3:20, brucedp5 via EV wrote: The Concept J is supposed to be powered by the Kawasaki's proprietary GIGACELL® ... nickel-metal hydride battery composed of individual cells that are connected in series at their cell walls, with the front and rear surfaces becoming the positive

Re: [EVDL] Vacuum Switch

2014-09-11 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 11 Sep 2014 at 3:32, Buddy Mills via EV wrote: I am about to put two switches on and use a relay to accomplish but was wondering if there was a simpler way to keep the vacuum pump from cycling so often. I'd suggest a larger vacuum tank. David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL Administrator

Re: [EVDL] Pack voltage

2014-09-13 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 13 Sep 2014 at 17:03, Sam Shepherd via EV wrote: I did [check] the cell voltage of each cell with no real diferences. If you didn't check the cell voltages under load, you need to do that. One way is to run a small gauge voltage-test pair to each cell, fused, with the other ends

Re: [EVDL] Electrifying Large Vehicles converting buyers to a higher mpge design

2014-09-15 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 14 Sep 2014 at 12:10, Martin WINLOW via EV wrote: singling out one section of the population on a racial basis for criticism - certainly in this context - is at best rather non-PC and at worst, a bit, well, ... offensive...? Sorry to say, I have to agree that some folks might take offense

Re: [EVDL] 270.224 mph at Bonneville

2014-09-15 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
OK, now I am going to demonstate my ignorance. THAT is a motorcycle? I had no idea motorcycles existed in that shape. And by the way, it's GORGEOUS. Also, 270mph. My head just cannot wrap itself round going that fast on the ground. You are supposed to be FLYING when you go that fast. The

Re: [EVDL] Electrifying Large Vehicles converting buyers to a higher mpge design

2014-09-15 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 15 Sep 2014 at 9:16, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: Partly because they are not paying for the added environmental damage... but pushing it off on the rest of us. I agree with this point. (TL;DR : skip to the last 4 paragraphs.) In Europe, things that increase public costs are more often

Re: [EVDL] Electrifying Large Vehicles converting buyers to a higher mpge design

2014-09-15 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 15 Sep 2014 at 9:34, brucedp5 via EV wrote: the full-size (puffy) truck or suv vehicle its self is what the buyer wants, and that the pih model would be close to the same size and passenger seating ... Now here is where my cynical side rebuts my optimistic side. :-\ I wonder if this

Re: [EVDL] Headways dissimilar metals?

2014-09-16 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 16 Sep 2014 at 10:22, Michael Ross via EV wrote: You will need to turn off html and send plain text I guess. If your email system sends 2-part MIME mail (html and plain text), the list software will discard the html and display the text. This USED to be the norm for html mail. However,

Re: [EVDL] 4 to 12 Cell Lithium BMS

2014-09-17 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
Maybe I'm missing something here, but for the golf cars, doesn't the vehicle have some kind of master on-off ignition switch? It would be pretty unusual not to. Couldn't you connect that to a relay with its NO contacts in series with the contactor coil, so the contactor would always be open

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: £26k VW e-Golf ubiquitous with a difference

2014-09-17 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 17 Sep 2014 at 0:18, brucedp5 via EV wrote: I also feel smug that I'm not fouling the capital's already disgusting air like other drivers. Anyone else here feel smug about this? With every article like this that I read, I lose more respect for today's journalists. David Roden - Akron,

Re: [EVDL] Dissimilar metals on Headyways?

2014-09-18 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 19 Sep 2014 at 5:30, via EV wrote: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20140919/b9981ecd/attachment.htm Please post in plain text, or use a mail system / client that knows how to send multipart MIME. Sorry for the

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: £75k York.uk 1st converted double-decker sightseeing ebus (video)

2014-09-20 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 20 Sep 2014 at 11:21, Martin WINLOW via EV wrote: 133kW LiFePO4 pack ... I'm a bit confused as to why it only gets 70 miles or so range if it does 0.67 miles per kWh... Let's see, 0.67 * 133 = 89 miles. 70 / 89 = 0.79. So that 70 miles would be roughly 80% of the theoretical maximum

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Amazon Google autonomous flying delivery e-drones

2014-09-20 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 20 Sep 2014 at 2:06, brucedp5 via EV wrote: Talking about the droneTMs design, Google says it has 1.5m wingspan and four electric propellers which help it in driving. This piece is rather vague. I get the distinct impression that the writer's native language isn't English. So when he says

Re: [EVDL] Dissimilar metals on Headyways?

2014-09-22 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 22 Sep 2014 at 7:55, Roland via EV wrote: You can get the plated copper bus bars in long lengths and cut them to size. You will note that the cut ends will show copper. In wet locations, coat these cut ends with silver paint or epoxy silver paint. Why not tin them with solder? I would

Re: [EVDL] co-operation

2014-09-26 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 26 Sep 2014 at 10:15, Rick Beebe via EV wrote: In order to make it work on a massive scale you have to pick one or two models of cars so that you can streamline the process and make standardized components like battery racks. Choose the wrong car and you're dead because no one will buy it.

Re: [EVDL] co-operation

2014-09-26 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 27 Sep 2014 at 8:32, George Tyler via EV wrote: Yes, so take it out of the realm of DIY by having a world wide not for profit company that does it, all you guys shareholders .. Minor detail : at least in the US, a non-profit corporation can't have shareholders. Well, in a few states it

Re: [EVDL] co-operation

2014-09-26 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 26 Sep 2014 at 15:16, Ben Goren via EV wrote: ...of course, a really big problem is the batteries. Until we have battery packs that can gracefully fit in the space previously occupied by a gas tank, _all_ conversions are going to be...interesting That is indeed one major problem. I

Re: [EVDL] Building a true road going solar EV. Help everyone.

2014-09-26 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 26 Sep 2014 at 18:08, Cor van de Water via EV wrote: BTW, which car has a flat 90 sqft straight roof surface and is aerodynamic? This is what Lawrence is talking about : http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html#nabble-td4671714

Re: [EVDL] Building a true road going solar EV. Help everyone.

2014-09-26 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 26 Sep 2014 at 19:44, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote: I want my vehicle to be so efficient that the panels can run the vehicle at 30 to 40 mph under bright sunlight.  The Stella has an efficiency of 35 wh per km which makes it possible to run on the panels alone. There really isn't enough

Re: [EVDL] Building a true road going solar EV.  Help    everyone.

2014-09-27 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 26 Sep 2014 at 22:27, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote: The Stella uses 35wh per km.weighs388 kg.  Has a 16 kw battery.  Do you really mean it's capable of producing 16 kW (about a third of the motor's peak power), or do you mean 16 kWh? Size is 499x165x115 cm.  This is a little longer

Re: [EVDL] Building a true road going solar EV. Help everyone.

2014-09-27 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 27 Sep 2014 at 0:53, Cor van de Water via EV wrote: there is a (low) speed under which the Stella will consume less than the panels in full sun produce and above that it will drain the battery. This is precisely what I said in the previous message. The car's specs as given don't

Re: [EVDL] EValert: !Don't buy a salvaged Tesla EV to repair drive! (video)

2014-09-28 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
To my ears, this has a faint but uncomfortable echo of GM's policies with the EV1: you may have leased the EV, but WE control its fate. Tesla's policies here echo where many other corporations are headed, and not just in EVs or even just in automobiles. It's no longer enough for you to buy

Re: [EVDL] EValert: !Don't buy a salvaged Tesla EV to repair drive! (video)

2014-09-28 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 28 Sep 2014 at 11:19, Nathan Loofbourrow via EV wrote: Surely an independent Tesla dealer would just sell him the parts. Is there a law that requires that they do so? Otherwise, Tesla could fix that problem by requiring dealers to sign agreements not to sell parts to anyone other than

Re: [EVDL] EValert: !Don't buy a salvaged Tesla EV to repair drive! (video)

2014-09-29 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 28 Sep 2014 at 20:32, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: If the guy wants to hack a tesla, then simply sign the form. Done. Simply sign the form? It isn't that simple. On 28 Sep 2014 at 2:12, brucedp5 via EV wrote: ... he says the company wanted him to sign liability waiver that allows the

Re: [EVDL] warp 9 has gone sparky sparky

2014-09-29 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 29 Sep 2014 at 19:52, Ben Jarrett via EV wrote: I may try a shop like this one: http://www.hamilton-electric.com For years the go-to guy for motor repair in these parts was Jim Husted. IIRC he had some pretty rough health problems a while back, but someone posted in January of this

Re: [EVDL] warp 9 has gone sparky sparky

2014-09-30 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 29 Sep 2014 at 23:22, Roland via EV wrote: hi_torue_electric@yahoomailto:hi_torue_electric@yahoo Thanks Roland. However, I think that's supposed to be hi_torque_electric with a q and then you put the swirly symbol in and then you add yahoo and a dot and then the familiar com top level

Re: [EVDL] EValert: !Don't buy a salvaged Tesla EV to repair drive! (video)

2014-10-01 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 1 Oct 2014 at 11:01, Rick Beebe via EV wrote: If they're happy with the inspection they'll reactive the car. Control freaks. Maybe other folks are fine with this. More power to you, no pun intended. But blast it, I already have enough things in my life that spy on me and/or restrict my

[EVDL] EVDL downtime

2014-10-03 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
Because of a mandatory server change, the EVDL (and evdl.org) will be offline Saturday 4 October from about 11pm ET (8pm PT) to at least 4am ET (1am PT). I expect (hope) that things will be back to normal sometime Sunday morning. David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL Administrator = = = = = = =

[EVDL] EVDL uptime (was EVDL downtime)

2014-10-05 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
Although there's still a slight possibility of glitches developing, the server maintenance should be effectively complete for tonight. Thanks for your patience. David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL Administrator = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = EVDL Information:

Re: [EVDL] Really efficient electric drive trains and what they are?

2014-10-05 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 5 Oct 2014 at 6:34, jerry freedomev via EV wrote: Having 16kw of battery , 250+ mile range is counter productive in a solar car as raises drag, makes hill starting harder, and makes solar an afterthought really Stella was designed to win a solar race. It may be more passenger- friendly

Re: [EVDL] EValert: !Don't buy a salvaged Tesla EV to repair drive! (video)

2014-10-05 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
Back when cpu cycles were expensive, automakers mostly used the minimum amount of processor power necessary to control emissions and air bags. As memory and cpus got to where they cost pennies, they realized that they could control a lot more with them. They could make the dome light fade in

Re: [EVDL] DC-DC Cooling

2014-10-06 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 6 Oct 2014 at 16:21, John Lussmyer via EV wrote: The fan on the heatsink doesn't seem to be enough when I'm drawing a lot of 12V power. (blower, lights, brakes, etc..) I'm not an engineer, but I think one of the problems with using multiple DC:DC converters is balancing the load. You

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: DIY Electric Series I Land Rover

2014-10-07 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 7 Oct 2014 at 3:05, brucedp5 via EV wrote: Our favourite bit: using a ? 12VDC ? WARP 9 Electric motor I'd guess that this was the reporter's transcription error. The owner or converter probably said 120vdc. The piece also says : Twelve 6V 255 amp batteries were called into service to

Re: [EVDL] Need Lithium batteries.

2014-10-10 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 10 Oct 2014 at 11:12, Roland via EV wrote: These are the batteries from the Hybrid Auto Center that I am going to use. Did you mean to include a link in your post? The word these doesn't seem to refer to anything. :-( four cells each connected two in series and then two in parallel

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