On 15 Mar 2014, at 12:50, Kim Jones wrote:
Something tells me these researchers have snorted some Salvia
Divinorum.
A way of emptying prisons has arrived: you go to prison for some
horrible murder or atrocity you commit and the prison sentence is
two hundred years. If you are really bad
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[mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of LizR
If we could just get away from one planet ... but the difficulty is, well,
astronomical. Before now we could always leave the place where disaster
struck, move from the valley where the
On 15 Mar 2014, at 13:22, ghib...@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, March 15, 2014 7:39:21 AM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 14 Mar 2014, at 21:40, ghi...@gmail.com wrote:
I've asked questions about method. You have not answered them. You
say you have been trying to understand me. I believe
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Hence, we have nothing to fear but fear itself. Franklin D Roosevelt got
On 15 Mar 2014, at 18:48, Chris de Morsella wrote:
You know I love the french (a bit cynical) poem:
'man had the good,
but he sought the best,
he found the bad,
and kept it,
by fear of the worst.'
Kind regards,
Bruno
Nice... I mean bad :)
Fear becomes, within the hidden unexamined
On 15 Mar 2014, at 20:04, meekerdb wrote:
On 3/14/2014 7:21 PM, Matt Bell wrote:
This may very possibly be an idea that has already been discussed
(I am very new to this topic, so I'm still exploring the landscape
of ideas), but it has been on my mind recently.
If you subscribe to the
Bruno:
That's correct, but we assume usually classical quantum mechanics. Then,
even if GR digitalizes the access to futures, it seems to me that QM will
still provide the rooms for immortality (not necessarily a good news).
Then, in such reasoning, QM uses comp, and comp by itself leads to many
On Wednesday, March 12, 2014 3:55:41 AM UTC+11, spudb...@aol.com wrote:
I think that if extinction rates was 10k, you would already see silent
spring round the globe.
WHA?? You think that? Based on what analysis? I imagine that you, like
me, live in a metropolis where in the course of a
On 15 Mar 2014, at 23:09, Craig Weinberg wrote:
http://www.jesseengland.net/index.php?/project/vide-uhhh/
Have a look at this quick video (or get the idea from this_)
Since the VCR can get video feedback of itself, is there any
computational reason why this doesn't count as a degree of
On 16 Mar 2014, at 05:17, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Saturday, March 15, 2014 7:00:48 PM UTC-4, Edgar L. Owen wrote:
Craig,
Hmmm, let me see. If I just take my eye out of its socket and turn
it around then I guess by your theory I'd have self awareness?
It's not my theory, but does
On 16 Mar 2014, at 05:35, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
On 16 March 2014 09:09, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com wrote:
http://www.jesseengland.net/index.php?/project/vide-uhhh/
Have a look at this quick video (or get the idea from this_)
Since the VCR can get video feedback of itself,
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On 14 March 2014 13:12, Craig Weinberg
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On 15 Mar 2014, at 18:48, Chris de Morsella
On 16 Mar 2014, at 08:39, Richard Ruquist wrote:
Bruno:
That's correct, but we assume usually classical quantum mechanics.
Then, even if GR digitalizes the access to futures, it seems to me
that QM will still provide the rooms for immortality (not
necessarily a good news). Then, in such
Liz,
How is going to another planet and screwing that one up too going to help.
The problem is not astronomical, it's human nature. The very success of
humans as a species depended on the ruthless exploitation of nature and
repression of competition. But those exact same aspects of human
Richard,
Yes, it's fun to watch everyone who was dumping on Edgar now dumping on
each other even more viciously!
So maybe it wasn't Edgar after all, but those who were doing the dumping?
:-)
Edgar
On Saturday, March 15, 2014 10:23:28 PM UTC-4, yanniru wrote:
The situation at everything
Craig,
Depends on what you mean by 'self-awareness'. Do you mean awareness that
you are a separate 'thing' in the world with special attributes? Or do you
mean the self monitoring awareness of your actual functions as you perform
them?
These are two very different meanings of self-awareness.
Umm... no. It was you. Great big smiley face.
On Sunday, March 16, 2014 10:15:24 PM UTC+11, Edgar L. Owen wrote:
Richard,
Yes, it's fun to watch everyone who was dumping on Edgar now dumping on
each other even more viciously!
So maybe it wasn't Edgar after all, but those who were doing
On Sunday, March 16, 2014 7:24:10 AM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 15 Mar 2014, at 13:22, ghi...@gmail.com javascript: wrote:
On Saturday, March 15, 2014 7:39:21 AM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 14 Mar 2014, at 21:40, ghi...@gmail.com wrote:
I've asked questions about method. You have
On Sunday, March 16, 2014 3:41:30 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 16 Mar 2014, at 05:17, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Saturday, March 15, 2014 7:00:48 PM UTC-4, Edgar L. Owen wrote:
Craig,
Hmmm, let me see. If I just take my eye out of its socket and turn it
around then I guess by
On 16 Mar 2014, at 09:13, Chris de Morsella wrote:
-Original Message-
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To: everything-list@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The Dalai Lama's
On Sunday, March 16, 2014 7:20:19 AM UTC-4, Edgar L. Owen wrote:
Craig,
Depends on what you mean by 'self-awareness'. Do you mean awareness that
you are a separate 'thing' in the world with special attributes? Or do you
mean the self monitoring awareness of your actual functions as you
On Sunday, March 16, 2014 3:40:49 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 15 Mar 2014, at 23:09, Craig Weinberg wrote:
http://www.jesseengland.net/index.php?/project/vide-uhhh/
Have a look at this quick video (or get the idea from this_)
Since the VCR can get video feedback of itself, is
On Sunday, March 16, 2014 1:02:08 AM UTC-4, stathisp wrote:
On 14 March 2014 13:12, Craig Weinberg whats...@gmail.com
javascript:wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZH2QXQu-HGE
A brief, handy rebuttal to materialistic views of consciousness. I would
go further, and say that
On Monday, March 17, 2014, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sunday, March 16, 2014 1:02:08 AM UTC-4, stathisp wrote:
On 14 March 2014 13:12, Craig Weinberg whats...@gmail.com wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZH2QXQu-HGE
A brief, handy rebuttal to materialistic views
On Sunday, March 16, 2014 10:02:04 AM UTC-4, stathisp wrote:
On Monday, March 17, 2014, Craig Weinberg whats...@gmail.comjavascript:
wrote:
On Sunday, March 16, 2014 1:02:08 AM UTC-4, stathisp wrote:
On 14 March 2014 13:12, Craig Weinberg whats...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 12:09 PM, Kim Jones kimjo...@ozemail.com.au wrote:
On 15 Mar 2014, at 8:25 am, Platonist Guitar Cowboy
multiplecit...@gmail.com wrote:
So one could play you some Ferneyhough, say Shadowtime, and you'd be
able to score it on first listen? I know nobody that has an
On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 6:57 PM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.comwrote:
On Friday, March 14, 2014 5:11:56 AM UTC-4, Kim Jones wrote:
On 14 Mar 2014, at 1:12 pm, Craig Weinberg whats...@gmail.com wrote:
Information must be made evident through sensory participation, or it is
nothing at
Jesse Mazer laserma...@gmail.com on Sat, Mar 15, 2014 wrote:
I think debate is like a sport where it's OK to be aggressive within some
very circumscribed bounds, do you see it differently?
No I agree. And I don't mind if you call me an asshole but don't call me a
creationist, that's going
On Sunday, March 16, 2014 11:05:45 AM UTC-4, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote:
On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 6:57 PM, Craig Weinberg
whats...@gmail.comjavascript:
wrote:
On Friday, March 14, 2014 5:11:56 AM UTC-4, Kim Jones wrote:
On 14 Mar 2014, at 1:12 pm, Craig Weinberg
Chris de Morsella cdemorse...@yahoo.com on Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 1:44 AM
Are you trying to imply that species are not dying off at alarming rate?
I hate to see any species go extinct (except for the Smallpox virus) but
there are other things that alarm me more.
I don't think so but even if
On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 4:34 PM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.comwrote:
On Sunday, March 16, 2014 11:05:45 AM UTC-4, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote:
On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 6:57 PM, Craig Weinberg whats...@gmail.comwrote:
On Friday, March 14, 2014 5:11:56 AM UTC-4, Kim Jones wrote:
On 16 Mar 2014, at 13:03, ghib...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sunday, March 16, 2014 7:24:10 AM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 15 Mar 2014, at 13:22, ghi...@gmail.com wrote:
I don't feel so much cloaked in the Popperian view. It has been been
refuted by John Case, notably (showing that Popper was
On Sunday, March 16, 2014 11:38:41 AM UTC-4, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote:
On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 4:34 PM, Craig Weinberg
whats...@gmail.comjavascript:
wrote:
On Sunday, March 16, 2014 11:05:45 AM UTC-4, Platonist Guitar Cowboy
wrote:
On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 6:57 PM, Craig
On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 4:34 PM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.comwrote:
On Sunday, March 16, 2014 11:05:45 AM UTC-4, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote:
Maybe one day you will have the class to acknowledge that Bruno and comp
have helped you articulate or conceive of certain things in
On 16 Mar 2014, at 13:52, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Sunday, March 16, 2014 3:41:30 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 16 Mar 2014, at 05:17, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Saturday, March 15, 2014 7:00:48 PM UTC-4, Edgar L. Owen wrote:
Craig,
Hmmm, let me see. If I just take my eye out of its
On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 5:00 PM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.comwrote:
On Sunday, March 16, 2014 11:38:41 AM UTC-4, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote:
If there is nothing other than sensing, then why use all the pronouns and
nouns you do? There are no objects... so why would we need nouns
On 3/16/2014 12:34 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 15 Mar 2014, at 20:04, meekerdb wrote:
On 3/14/2014 7:21 PM, Matt Bell wrote:
This may very possibly be an idea that has already been discussed (I am very new to
this topic, so I'm still exploring the landscape of ideas), but it has been on my
On 16 Mar 2014, at 14:10, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Sunday, March 16, 2014 3:40:49 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 15 Mar 2014, at 23:09, Craig Weinberg wrote:
http://www.jesseengland.net/index.php?/project/vide-uhhh/
Have a look at this quick video (or get the idea from this_)
Since
On 16 Mar 2014, at 16:38, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote:
On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 4:34 PM, Craig Weinberg
whatsons...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sunday, March 16, 2014 11:05:45 AM UTC-4, Platonist Guitar Cowboy
wrote:
On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 6:57 PM, Craig Weinberg whats...@gmail.com
On 16 Mar 2014, at 17:00, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Sunday, March 16, 2014 11:38:41 AM UTC-4, Platonist Guitar Cowboy
wrote:
On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 4:34 PM, Craig Weinberg whats...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Sunday, March 16, 2014 11:05:45 AM UTC-4, Platonist Guitar Cowboy
wrote:
On 16 Mar 2014, at 17:31, meekerdb wrote:
On 3/16/2014 12:34 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 15 Mar 2014, at 20:04, meekerdb wrote:
On 3/14/2014 7:21 PM, Matt Bell wrote:
This may very possibly be an idea that has already been discussed
(I am very new to this topic, so I'm still exploring
On Sunday, March 16, 2014 12:08:00 PM UTC-4, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote:
On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 5:00 PM, Craig Weinberg
whats...@gmail.comjavascript:
wrote:
On Sunday, March 16, 2014 11:38:41 AM UTC-4, Platonist Guitar Cowboy
wrote:
If there is nothing other than sensing,
On Sunday, March 16, 2014 12:05:50 PM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 16 Mar 2014, at 13:52, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Sunday, March 16, 2014 3:41:30 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 16 Mar 2014, at 05:17, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Saturday, March 15, 2014 7:00:48 PM UTC-4, Edgar L.
On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 7:21 PM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.comwrote:
On Sunday, March 16, 2014 12:08:00 PM UTC-4, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote:
On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 5:00 PM, Craig Weinberg whats...@gmail.comwrote:
On Sunday, March 16, 2014 11:38:41 AM UTC-4, Platonist
On Sunday, March 16, 2014 3:26:46 PM UTC-4, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote:
On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 7:21 PM, Craig Weinberg
whats...@gmail.comjavascript:
wrote:
On Sunday, March 16, 2014 12:08:00 PM UTC-4, Platonist Guitar Cowboy
wrote:
On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 5:00 PM, Craig
On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 9:08 PM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.comwrote:
On Sunday, March 16, 2014 3:26:46 PM UTC-4, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote:
At this point my impression is: with a bucket so personalized and leaky,
I can see how everything just goes in MSR, as long as Craig says
On 17 March 2014 05:31, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 3/16/2014 12:34 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
That's correct, but we assume usually classical quantum mechanics.
Then, even if GR digitalizes the access to futures, it seems to me that QM
will still provide the rooms for immortality
On 16 March 2014 15:23, Richard Ruquist yann...@gmail.com wrote:
The situation at everything list seems to be deteriorating.
Teehee. Time to send in the clean-up squad...?
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On Sunday, March 16, 2014 3:26:46 PM UTC-4, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote:
At this point my impression is: with a
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On Sunday,
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