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Will do. Sent from AOL Mobile Mail -Original Message- From: Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> To: everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com> Sent: Thu, Dec 29, 2016 09:24 AM Subject: Re: No gravity / no dark matter On 28 Dec 2016, at 22:50, spudboy100 via Eve

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, if there is one. Bruno I will look it up. 88 was almost 29 years ago. Gad! How the time flies. -Original Message- From: Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> To: everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com> Sent: Wed, Dec 28, 2016 12:00 pm Subject: Re: No gravity / no dark ma

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sane04 paper? I will look it up. 88 was almost 29 years ago. Gad! How the time flies. -Original Message- From: Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> To: everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com> Sent: Wed, Dec 28, 2016 12:00 pm Subject: Re: No gravity / no dark matt

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, Vol. 119, Issue 3, 368-381. Bruno -Original Message- From: Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> To: everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com> Sent: Mon, Dec 26, 2016 7:18 am Subject: Re: No gravity / no dark matter On 24 Dec 2016, at 14:30, spudboy100 via Eve

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. -Original Message- From: Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> To: everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com> Sent: Mon, Dec 26, 2016 7:18 am Subject: Re: No gravity / no dark matter On 24 Dec 2016, at 14:30, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote: Well, not to int

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be> To: everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com> Sent: Sun, Dec 18, 2016 1:12 pm Subject: Re: No gravity / no dark matter On 18 Dec 2016, at 00:04, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote: Well, Doc, you mentioned your afterlife view before, Er well. It is not my view, but the

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roups.com> Sent: Sun, Dec 18, 2016 1:12 pm Subject: Re: No gravity / no dark matter On 18 Dec 2016, at 00:04, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote: Well, Doc, you mentioned your afterlife view before, Er well. It is not my view, but the universal machine's one, I mean th

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l Message- From: Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> To: everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com> Sent: Fri, Dec 16, 2016 12:48 pm Subject: Re: No gravity / no dark matter On 16 Dec 2016, at 15:11, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote: When entering into discussions such as t

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..@ulb.ac.be> To: everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com> Sent: Fri, Dec 16, 2016 12:48 pm Subject: Re: No gravity / no dark matter On 16 Dec 2016, at 15:11, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote: When entering into discussions such as these, are you doing for the intellectual

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On Sunday, December 18, 2016 at 6:40:17 AM UTC+1, Brent wrote: > > Bruno poses the question of whether we would let "the doctor" substitute > some functionally equivalent mechanism for our brain. But why substitute? > Why not just add on. > Good question. > Well before it's possible to

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age- From: Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> To: everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com> Sent: Fri, Dec 16, 2016 12:48 pm Subject: Re: No gravity / no dark matter On 16 Dec 2016, at 15:11, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote: When entering into discussi

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can only help humanity if she needs help. Bruno -Original Message- From: Russell Standish <li...@hpcoders.com.au> To: everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com> Sent: Thu, Dec 15, 2016 7:36 pm Subject: Re: No gravity / no dark matter On Thu, Dec 15, 2016

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On Saturday, December 17, 2016 at 7:49:20 AM UTC+1, Russell Standish wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 05:54:22PM +0100, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > > In our case, Brent was advertizing materialism or physicalism by > > referring to the high predictive power of the physical laws. That is > >

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On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 05:54:22PM +0100, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > In our case, Brent was advertizing materialism or physicalism by > referring to the high predictive power of the physical laws. That is > the point which is inconsistent when we assume digital mechanism. > I didn't think Brent

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if she needs help. Bruno -Original Message- From: Russell Standish <li...@hpcoders.com.au> To: everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com> Sent: Thu, Dec 15, 2016 7:36 pm Subject: Re: No gravity / no dark matter On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 04:47:03PM +0100, Bruno M

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On 16 Dec 2016, at 00:37, Russell Standish wrote: On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 04:47:03PM +0100, Bruno Marchal wrote: The question you asked was (I quote): I don't see why you would say physicalism needs to be assumed to explain the predictive power of physics. Let me try to explain again.

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On 15 Dec 2016, at 22:02, Brent Meeker wrote: On 12/15/2016 7:47 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 14 Dec 2016, at 23:49, Russell Standish wrote: On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 05:23:16PM +0100, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 14 Dec 2016, at 02:12, Russell Standish wrote: I don't see why you would say

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Standish <li...@hpcoders.com.au> To: everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com> Sent: Thu, Dec 15, 2016 7:36 pm Subject: Re: No gravity / no dark matter On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 04:47:03PM +0100, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > The question you asked was (I quote): > >

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On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 04:47:03PM +0100, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > The question you asked was (I quote): > > >>>I don't see why you would say physicalism needs to be assumed to > >>>explain the predictive power of physics. > > > Let me try to explain again. > > How do a physicist make a

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On 12/15/2016 7:47 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 14 Dec 2016, at 23:49, Russell Standish wrote: On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 05:23:16PM +0100, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 14 Dec 2016, at 02:12, Russell Standish wrote: I don't see why you would say physicalism needs to be assumed to explain the

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On 14 Dec 2016, at 23:49, Russell Standish wrote: On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 05:23:16PM +0100, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 14 Dec 2016, at 02:12, Russell Standish wrote: I don't see why you would say physicalism needs to be assumed to explain the predictive power of physics. To predict (exactly

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On 14 Dec 2016, at 22:11, Brent Meeker wrote: On 12/14/2016 6:56 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 13 Dec 2016, at 20:20, Brent Meeker wrote: On 12/13/2016 3:46 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 12 Dec 2016, at 19:36, Brent Meeker wrote: On 12/12/2016 3:24 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: And the

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On 12/14/2016 8:06 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: Sorry for the silence, "real life" etc... :) I hear people say stuff like "God for me is Nature" all the time. Don't you? No, I don't. But if I did, I'd take it as metaphor, "I worship nature." I hear people say, "Time is money." and "Valentino

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On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 05:23:16PM +0100, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > On 14 Dec 2016, at 02:12, Russell Standish wrote: > > >I don't see why you would say physicalism needs to be assumed to > >explain the predictive power of physics. > > To predict (exactly and in principle) something physical you

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On 12/14/2016 6:56 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 13 Dec 2016, at 20:20, Brent Meeker wrote: On 12/13/2016 3:46 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 12 Dec 2016, at 19:36, Brent Meeker wrote: On 12/12/2016 3:24 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: And the religionist, trying to keep their comfort and

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On 14 Dec 2016, at 02:12, Russell Standish wrote: On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 12:28:17PM +0100, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 12 Dec 2016, at 19:31, Brent Meeker wrote: On 12/12/2016 3:24 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: it's just like seeing the storm as anger of the sky-god. People experience anger,

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On Sat, Dec 10, 2016 at 5:14 PM, Terren Suydam wrote: > This exchange between you and Brent is brilliant, thank you. popcorn> Hi Terren, you have some weird tastes in entertainment, but thanks :) > On Dec 10, 2016 7:31 AM, "Telmo Menezes"

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Sorry for the silence, "real life" etc... :) > I hear people say stuff like "God for me is Nature" all the time. Don't > you? > > No, I don't. But if I did, I'd take it as metaphor, "I worship nature." I > hear people say, "Time is money." and "Valentino Rossi is a motorcycle god." > but I

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On 13 Dec 2016, at 20:20, Brent Meeker wrote: On 12/13/2016 3:46 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 12 Dec 2016, at 19:36, Brent Meeker wrote: On 12/12/2016 3:24 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: And the religionist, trying to keep their comfort and influence, keep fuzzing up the target and

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On 12/13/2016 11:15 PM, 'scerir' via Everything List wrote: Brent: That depends on what you mean by "God". As I've pointed out at length, language is defined by usage and usage says that "God" means an immortal person with supernatural power who wants, and deserves, to be worshipped. You

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Brent: >That depends on what you mean by "God". As I've pointed out at length, >language is defined by usage and usage says that "God" means an immortal >person with supernatural power who wants, and deserves, to be >worshipped. You want to hijack the word and justify it by referring to >a

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On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 12:28:17PM +0100, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > On 12 Dec 2016, at 19:31, Brent Meeker wrote: > > > > > > >On 12/12/2016 3:24 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> > >>>it's just like seeing the storm as anger of the sky-god. > >>>People experience anger, so they think they have

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On 12/13/2016 3:46 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 12 Dec 2016, at 19:36, Brent Meeker wrote: On 12/12/2016 3:24 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: And the religionist, trying to keep their comfort and influence, keep fuzzing up the target and spreading it out because it's center keeps getting hit by

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On 12 Dec 2016, at 19:36, Brent Meeker wrote: On 12/12/2016 3:24 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: And the religionist, trying to keep their comfort and influence, keep fuzzing up the target and spreading it out because it's center keeps getting hit by facts. Atheism is either agnostic, or is a

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On 12 Dec 2016, at 19:31, Brent Meeker wrote: On 12/12/2016 3:24 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: it's just like seeing the storm as anger of the sky-god. People experience anger, so they think they have understood the storm. They don't understand fluid dynamics (at least until very

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On 12/12/2016 3:24 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: And the religionist, trying to keep their comfort and influence, keep fuzzing up the target and spreading it out because it's center keeps getting hit by facts. Atheism is either agnostic, or is a religion: an ontological commitment in something

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On 12/12/2016 3:24 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: it's just like seeing the storm as anger of the sky-god. People experience anger, so they think they have understood the storm. They don't understand fluid dynamics (at least until very recently). I recall that such a type of belief does not

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On 10 Dec 2016, at 22:43, Brent Meeker wrote: On 12/10/2016 4:31 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 8:36 PM, Brent Meeker wrote: On 12/9/2016 2:51 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 2:22 AM, Brent Meeker wrote:

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On 12/10/2016 4:31 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 8:36 PM, Brent Meeker wrote: On 12/9/2016 2:51 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 2:22 AM, Brent Meeker wrote: On 12/8/2016 3:52 PM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Fri,

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This exchange between you and Brent is brilliant, thank you. On Dec 10, 2016 7:31 AM, "Telmo Menezes" wrote: > On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 8:36 PM, Brent Meeker wrote: > > > > > > On 12/9/2016 2:51 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: > >> > >> On Fri, Dec 9, 2016

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On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 8:36 PM, Brent Meeker wrote: > > > On 12/9/2016 2:51 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: >> >> On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 2:22 AM, Brent Meeker wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 12/8/2016 3:52 PM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 12:38

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On 12/9/2016 2:51 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 2:22 AM, Brent Meeker wrote: On 12/8/2016 3:52 PM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 12:38 AM, Brent Meeker wrote: On 12/8/2016 3:31 PM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Thu,

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On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 2:22 AM, Brent Meeker wrote: > > > On 12/8/2016 3:52 PM, Telmo Menezes wrote: >> >> On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 12:38 AM, Brent Meeker >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 12/8/2016 3:31 PM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at

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On 12/8/2016 3:52 PM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 12:38 AM, Brent Meeker wrote: On 12/8/2016 3:31 PM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 6:47 PM, Brent Meeker wrote: On 12/8/2016 3:29 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Mon,

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On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 12:38 AM, Brent Meeker wrote: > > > On 12/8/2016 3:31 PM, Telmo Menezes wrote: >> >> On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 6:47 PM, Brent Meeker wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 12/8/2016 3:29 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 7:26

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On 12/8/2016 3:31 PM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 6:47 PM, Brent Meeker wrote: On 12/8/2016 3:29 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 7:26 PM, Brent Meeker wrote: On 12/5/2016 1:31 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Mon,

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On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 6:47 PM, Brent Meeker wrote: > > > On 12/8/2016 3:29 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: >> >> On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 7:26 PM, Brent Meeker wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 12/5/2016 1:31 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 3:38

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On 12/8/2016 3:29 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 7:26 PM, Brent Meeker wrote: On 12/5/2016 1:31 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 3:38 AM, Brent Meeker wrote: On 12/4/2016 10:45 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Sat,

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On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 7:26 PM, Brent Meeker wrote: > > > On 12/5/2016 1:31 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: >> >> On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 3:38 AM, Brent Meeker wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 12/4/2016 10:45 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Sat, Dec 3, 2016 at 6:03

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On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 10:37 PM, Russell Standish wrote: > On Fri, Dec 02, 2016 at 01:03:49PM +0100, Telmo Menezes wrote: >> Russell, >> >> I don't follow you... If you have time to dumb it down a bit, I would >> appreciate it :) >> >> Best, >> Telmo. > > One of the things

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On 12/5/2016 1:31 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 3:38 AM, Brent Meeker wrote: On 12/4/2016 10:45 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Sat, Dec 3, 2016 at 6:03 PM, Brent Meeker wrote: On 12/3/2016 12:03 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:

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On 04 Dec 2016, at 19:45, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Sat, Dec 3, 2016 at 6:03 PM, Brent Meeker wrote: On 12/3/2016 12:03 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Physicists confuse physics and metaphysics, by not seeing that Aristotelianism is incompatible with Mechanism, and by

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On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 3:38 AM, Brent Meeker wrote: > > > On 12/4/2016 10:45 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: >> >> On Sat, Dec 3, 2016 at 6:03 PM, Brent Meeker wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 12/3/2016 12:03 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Physicists

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On 12/4/2016 10:45 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Sat, Dec 3, 2016 at 6:03 PM, Brent Meeker wrote: On 12/3/2016 12:03 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Physicists confuse physics and metaphysics, by not seeing that Aristotelianism is incompatible with Mechanism, and by

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On Fri, Dec 02, 2016 at 01:03:49PM +0100, Telmo Menezes wrote: > Russell, > > I don't follow you... If you have time to dumb it down a bit, I would > appreciate it :) > > Best, > Telmo. One of the things that Einstein was popularly known for is that the speed of light is constant, regardles of

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:45 AM (GMT-08:00) To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: No gravity / no dark matter On Sat, Dec 3, 2016 at 6:03 PM, Brent Meeker <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote: > > > On 12/3/2016 12:03 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> >> Physicists c

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ravity / no dark matter On Fri, Dec 02, 2016 at 08:44:12AM -0500, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote: > The comic was creepy, Telmo, and inaccurate. Maybe I just need to grow a > sense of humor? > Well I thought it was funny. And I'm an (ex-)physicist, probably the sort the cartoo

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On Fri, Dec 02, 2016 at 08:44:12AM -0500, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote: > The comic was creepy, Telmo, and inaccurate. Maybe I just need to grow a > sense of humor? > Well I thought it was funny. And I'm an (ex-)physicist, probably the sort the cartoon is poking fun of :). --

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On Sat, Dec 3, 2016 at 6:03 PM, Brent Meeker wrote: > > > On 12/3/2016 12:03 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> >> Physicists confuse physics and metaphysics, by not seeing that >> Aristotelianism is incompatible with Mechanism, and by confusing mechanism >> and materialism.

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On 04 Dec 2016, at 19:22, Brent Meeker wrote: On 12/4/2016 9:09 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 02 Dec 2016, at 21:28, Brent Meeker wrote: I thought it was funny, and had a grain of truth (and I'm a physicist). To be sure, it applies to mathematicians, and biologists, too. It looks

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On 12/4/2016 9:09 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 02 Dec 2016, at 21:28, Brent Meeker wrote: I thought it was funny, and had a grain of truth (and I'm a physicist). To be sure, it applies to mathematicians, and biologists, too. It looks like after retirement, you are no more under the

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06 AM, Brent Meeker <meeke...@verizon.net> >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Telmo Menezes <te...@telmomenezes.com> >>> To: everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com> >>> Sent: Wed, Nov

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On 03 Dec 2016, at 18:03, Brent Meeker wrote: On 12/3/2016 12:03 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Physicists confuse physics and metaphysics, by not seeing that Aristotelianism is incompatible with Mechanism, and by confusing mechanism and materialism. Yes, that happens often for fundamental

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. Neutrino interceptors, off earth, etc.. -Original Message- From: Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> To: everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com> Sent: Sun, Dec 4, 2016 12:09 pm Subject: Re: No gravity / no dark matter On 02 Dec 2016, at 21:28, Brent Meeker wrote:

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16 6:51 am Subject: Re: No gravity / no dark matter On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 12:06 AM, Brent Meeker <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote: > > > -Original Message- > From: Telmo Menezes <te...@telmomenezes.com> > To: everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com>

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On 12/3/2016 12:03 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Physicists confuse physics and metaphysics, by not seeing that Aristotelianism is incompatible with Mechanism, and by confusing mechanism and materialism. Yes, that happens often for fundamental researcher often after retirement, except for

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theres-no-gravity-no-dark-matter-and-einstein-was-wrong Interesting, seems plausible to me, not so original (cf the explanation of space-time from quantum entanglement) and of course all this is in line with the idea that space-time-energy is also emerging. I still hope he recovers phenomenolog

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16 3:33 pm Subject: No gravity / no dark matter Hello, What do you guys think of this? http://bigthink.com/paul-ratner/remarkable-new-theory-says-theres-no-gravity-no-dark-matter-and-einstein-was-wrong Cheers Telmo. It's a respectable theory, but Verlinde needs to work out some testable

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g-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com> Sent: Fri, Dec 2, 2016 8:48 am Subject: Re: No gravity / no dark matter Sorry! On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 2:44 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List <everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > The comic was creepy, Telmo, and inaccurate. Maybe I just n

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eke...@verizon.net> wrote: -Original Message- From: Telmo Menezes <te...@telmomenezes.com> To: everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com> Sent: Wed, Nov 30, 2016 3:33 pm Subject: No gravity / no dark matter Hello, What do you guys think of this? http://bigthink.com/paul

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;te...@telmomenezes.com> To: everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com> Sent: Fri, Dec 2, 2016 6:51 am Subject: Re: No gravity / no dark matter On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 12:06 AM, Brent Meeker <meeke...@verizon.net <mailto:meeke...@verizon.net>> wrote: > > > -Original M

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<te...@telmomenezes.com> > To: everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Fri, Dec 2, 2016 6:51 am > Subject: Re: No gravity / no dark matter > > On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 12:06 AM, Brent Meeker <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote: >> >> >>

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com> To: everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com> Sent: Fri, Dec 2, 2016 8:44 am Subject: Re: No gravity / no dark matter The comic was creepy, Telmo, and inaccurate. Maybe I just need to grow a sense of humor? -Original Message- From: Telmo Menezes <te...@telmomenezes.com&

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The comic was creepy, Telmo, and inaccurate. Maybe I just need to grow a sense of humor? -Original Message- From: Telmo Menezes <te...@telmomenezes.com> To: everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com> Sent: Fri, Dec 2, 2016 6:51 am Subject: Re: No gravity / no

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Russell, I don't follow you... If you have time to dumb it down a bit, I would appreciate it :) Best, Telmo. On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 11:26 PM, Russell Standish wrote: > On Thu, Dec 01, 2016 at 04:26:25PM +0100, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> I am not sure why he says that

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On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 4:26 PM, Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> wrote: > Hi Telmo, > > On 30 Nov 2016, at 21:33, Telmo Menezes wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> What do you guys think of this? >> >> >> http://bigthink.com/paul-ratner/remar

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On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 12:06 AM, Brent Meeker <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote: > > > -Original Message- > From: Telmo Menezes <te...@telmomenezes.com> > To: everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Wed, Nov 30, 2016 3:33 pm > Subject

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; To: everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com> Sent: Thu, Dec 1, 2016 8:01 pm Subject: Re: No gravity / no dark matter On Fri, Dec 02, 2016 at 10:02:49AM +1100, Bruce Kellett wrote: > On 2/12/2016 9:26 am, Russell Standish wrote: > >On Thu, Dec 01, 2016 at 04:26:25PM +0100

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On Fri, Dec 02, 2016 at 10:02:49AM +1100, Bruce Kellett wrote: > On 2/12/2016 9:26 am, Russell Standish wrote: > >On Thu, Dec 01, 2016 at 04:26:25PM +0100, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >>I am not sure why he says that Einstein was wrong, as I am not sure > >>Einstein ever asserted that space-time or

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On 2/12/2016 9:26 am, Russell Standish wrote: On Thu, Dec 01, 2016 at 04:26:25PM +0100, Bruno Marchal wrote: I am not sure why he says that Einstein was wrong, as I am not sure Einstein ever asserted that space-time or gravity was fundamental. To say that Einstein is wrong looks like a cliché

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On Thu, Dec 01, 2016 at 04:26:25PM +0100, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > I am not sure why he says that Einstein was wrong, as I am not sure > Einstein ever asserted that space-time or gravity was fundamental. > To say that Einstein is wrong looks like a cliché in fashion, today. It's code speak for

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Hi Telmo, On 30 Nov 2016, at 21:33, Telmo Menezes wrote: Hello, What do you guys think of this? http://bigthink.com/paul-ratner/remarkable-new-theory-says-theres-no-gravity-no-dark-matter-and-einstein-was-wrong Interesting, seems plausible to me, not so original (cf the explanation

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-Original Message- From: Telmo Menezes <te...@telmomenezes.com> To: everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com> Sent: Wed, Nov 30, 2016 3:33 pm Subject: No gravity / no dark matter Hello, What do you guys think of this? http://bigthink.com/paul-ratner/remarkabl

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ty / no dark matter Hello, What do you guys think of this? http://bigthink.com/paul-ratner/remarkable-new-theory-says-theres-no-gravity-no-dark-matter-and-einstein-was-wrong Cheers Telmo. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" grou

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"inflation in disguise"? Cheers On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 09:33:11PM +0100, Telmo Menezes wrote: > Hello, > > What do you guys think of this? > > http://bigthink.com/paul-ratner/remarkable-new-theory-says-theres-no-gravity-no-dark-matter-and-einstein-was-wrong > >

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.com Subject: No gravity / no dark matter Hello, What do you guys think of this? http://bigthink.com/paul-ratner/remarkable-new-theory-says-theres-no-gravity-no-dark-matter-and-einstein-was-wrong [http://assets2.bigthink.com/system/idea_thumbnails/61999/primary/GettyImages-71525117.jpg?1480

No gravity / no dark matter

Hello, What do you guys think of this? http://bigthink.com/paul-ratner/remarkable-new-theory-says-theres-no-gravity-no-dark-matter-and-einstein-was-wrong Cheers Telmo. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubs