Re: How the banks are stealing our wealth

On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 4:55 AM, Jason Resch wrote: > > > > On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 6:34 AM, Telmo Menezes > wrote: >> >> On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 9:02 PM, meekerdb wrote: >> > On 12/16/2013 12:53 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: >> >> >> >> On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 5:59 AM, meekerdb wrote: >> >>> >> >>>

Re: How can a grown man be an atheist ?

On 22 Dec 2013, at 20:55, meekerdb wrote: On 12/22/2013 5:04 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 21 Dec 2013, at 23:28, meekerdb wrote: On 12/21/2013 1:26 AM, Jason Resch wrote: If there exists a mathematical theorem that requires a countable infinity of integers to represent, no finite version c

Re: Bruno's mathematical reality

On 22 Dec 2013, at 21:00, meekerdb wrote: On 12/22/2013 5:14 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 22 Dec 2013, at 01:00, Edgar Owen wrote: Hi John, First thanks for the complement on my post! To address your points. Of course we do have some knowledge of reality. We have to have to be able to fu

Re: How can a grown man be an atheist ?

On 22 Dec 2013, at 19:48, John Clark wrote: Bruno Marchal wrote: That's a great answer but unfortunately it's NOT a answer to the question John Clark asked, the question never asked anything about "the 3p view", it was never mentioned. So John Clark will repeat the question for a

Re: How the banks are stealing our wealth

On 23 Dec 2013, at 10:29, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 4:55 AM, Jason Resch wrote: On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 6:34 AM, Telmo Menezes > wrote: On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 9:02 PM, meekerdb wrote: On 12/16/2013 12:53 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 5:59 AM

Re: How can a grown man be an atheist ?

On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Stephen Paul King < stephe...@provensecure.com> wrote: > > > I will try to answer for Bruno as I think I understand what he means. > The number is equal to the number of entities that have a first person > experience. > I know that, what I don't know is what numbe

Re: How can a grown man be an atheist ?

On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 11:30 AM, Bruno Marchal wrot > >>> The question is ambiguous. >> > > >> If the question is ambiguous it is because I used YOUR phrase " the > first person experiences viewed from their first person points of view" ! > If your phrase means anything you should be able to tel

Re: How can a grown man be an atheist ?

2013/12/23 John Clark > > > > On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 11:30 AM, Bruno Marchal wrot > > >>> The question is ambiguous. >>> >> >> >> If the question is ambiguous it is because I used YOUR phrase " the >> first person experiences viewed from their first person points of view" ! >> If your phrase m

Re: How can a grown man be an atheist ?

On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Quentin Anciaux wrote: > He did answer and did it correctly, > I somehow missed that post. What number did Bruno give? > Liar Clark is dodging questions and lying. > Dodging AND lying? That seems redundant. John K Clark -- You received this message becaus

Re: How can a grown man be an atheist ?

2013/12/23 John Clark > On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Quentin Anciaux wrote: > > > He did answer and did it correctly, >> > > I somehow missed that post. What number did Bruno give? > Buy some pair of eyes and come back here. > > > Liar Clark is dodging questions and lying. >> > > Dodging

God or not?

All, The question of whether God exists is meaningless without first giving some definition of what is meant by God, of how God is defined. Otherwise everyone is talking about different things and nothing will go anywhere. If you need a God there is only one possible rational definition and tha

Re: Bruno's mathematical reality

On 12/23/2013 6:58 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: In terms of measure aren't there infinitely more non-terminating programs than terminating? Both are enumerable, although not recursively enumerable. Even so, one can be much bigger than the other by most measures. But the measure is not on progr

Re: God or not?

2013/12/23 Edgar L. Owen > All, > > The question of whether God exists is meaningless without first giving > some definition of what is meant by God, of how God is defined. Otherwise > everyone is talking about different things and nothing will go anywhere. > > If you need a God there is only one

Posting problems

I've set option of getting all posts as emails which seems to be working OK I think. But when I reply to a post via my Mac mail it never seems to get posted to the group. Also I tried starting several new topics via Mac mail by simply using a new subject line however none of either type of post

Re: Posting problems

Hi, I'm using gmail and it works flawlessly. Just check when replying that the address is set to "everything-list@googlegroups.com" (it should normally default to that as the Reply-To header is set to that address). Regards, Quentin 2013/12/23 Edgar L. Owen > I've set option of getting all po

Re: Bruno's mathematical reality

Bruno, Thanks for your comments. However I think you are coming at Reality from the POV of human logico-mathematical theory whose results you are trying to impose on reality. My approach is to closely examine reality and then try to figure out how it works and what ITS innate rules and structur

Re: How the banks are stealing our wealth

On 12/23/2013 9:07 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Crypto-currencies, like cryptography, can surely help to save the freedom of privacy and privateness. Crypto-currencies does not need to be a pyramidal con, like Quentin suspects. They just allowed to create new independent banks which can do their w

A simple incontrovertible proof there are two kinds of time and a couple of implications

All, The proof is simply the fact that the time traveling twins meet up again with different clock times, but always in the exact same present moment. This proves beyond any doubt there are two kinds of time, clock time which varies by relativistic observer, and the time of the present moment (

Re: Bruno's mathematical reality

Craig, All this is explained in my book on Reality available on Amazon. The key insight to several of your questions is covered in Part IV: Mind and Reality. Basically the world we think we live in with shapes, colors, flavors and feelings etc. (various types of qualia) is actually a model of

Re: Bruno's mathematical reality

Brent, I don't avoid infinities but Reality does. When one understands what infinities are and how they are defined as an unending and uncompletable process of addition it is quite clear that nothing physical can be infinite. As I've posted in other replies Reality is a computational system lik

The 'Fire' that animates the logic - reply to Stephen

Stephen, A very important point which I cover extensively in my book, but rather subtle to grasp. Reality clearly exists. There is something really here now and actual and happening. The totality of that is defined as reality and I refer to its 'stuff' (non-physical but real and actual) as an

Re: Posting problems

Or maybe your SMTP server that your email program is using is somehow rejected by googlegroups or by SPF... Do you correctly use the smtp server associated with your domain email (att.net) ? SPF http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sender_Policy_Framework can prevent email from being sent correctly if yo

Re: Posting problems

I'm using my email edgaro...@att.net for this group but I connect to the net via Optimum Online, a cable co. which provides my internet service, rather than ATT. But I do the same thing with all my yahoo groups and it works just fine. Do you think that might be the problem? If so it would be ho

Re: God or not?

On 12/23/2013 10:55 AM, Quentin Anciaux wrote: 2013/12/23 Edgar L. Owen mailto:edgaro...@att.net>> All, The question of whether God exists is meaningless without first giving some definition of what is meant by God, of how God is defined. Otherwise everyone is talking about dif

Re: Posting problems

It's not a problem of signing up, it is a problem of using the correct SMTP server to send an email with your address in "from" header. You must use the SMTP server of att.net to send an email with a from address of "att.net ". Quentin 2013/12/23 Edgar L. Owen > I'm using my email edgaro...@at

Re: God or not?

2013/12/23 meekerdb > On 12/23/2013 10:55 AM, Quentin Anciaux wrote: > > 2013/12/23 Edgar L. Owen > >> All, >> >> The question of whether God exists is meaningless without first giving >> some definition of what is meant by God, of how God is defined. Otherwise >> everyone is talking about diff

Re: A simple incontrovertible proof there are two kinds of time and a couple of implications

On 12/23/2013 11:10 AM, Edgar L. Owen wrote: All, The proof is simply the fact that the time traveling twins meet up again with different clock times, but always in the exact same present moment. This proves beyond any doubt there are two kinds of time, clock time which varies by relativistic

Re: God or not?

On 12/23/2013 11:33 AM, Quentin Anciaux wrote: 2013/12/23 meekerdb mailto:meeke...@verizon.net>> On 12/23/2013 10:55 AM, Quentin Anciaux wrote: 2013/12/23 Edgar L. Owen mailto:edgaro...@att.net>> All, The question of whether God exists is meaningless without first g

Re: Posting problems

I post and receive via google email. My only complaint is that I cannot intersperse in others posts as is the practice here. Richard On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 2:09 PM, Edgar L. Owen wrote: > I've set option of getting all posts as emails which seems to be working > OK I think. But when I reply to

Re: Posting problems

2013/12/23 Richard Ruquist > I post and receive via google email. > My only complaint is that I cannot intersperse > in others posts as is the practice here. > You can, I'm using gmail for posting right now, just click on the three dots "..." when replying, that will display the entire post and

Re: Posting problems

Quentin, Your 3dot method does not work for me. Richard On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Quentin Anciaux wrote: > > 2013/12/23 Richard Ruquist > >> I post and receive via google email. >> My only complaint is that I cannot intersperse >> in others posts as is the practice here. >> > > You can

Re: God or not?

On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Edgar L. Owen wrote: > All, > > The question of whether God exists is meaningless without first giving > some definition of what is meant by God, of how God is defined. Otherwise > everyone is talking about different things and nothing will go anywhere. > > I agre

Re: Posting problems

2013/12/23 Richard Ruquist > Quentin, > > Your 3dot method does not work for me. > It works for everyone using gmail, just click on the dots... Quentin > Richard > > > On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Quentin Anciaux wrote: > >> >> 2013/12/23 Richard Ruquist >> >>> I post and receive via goo

Re: Posting problems

2013/12/23 Richard Ruquist > Quentin, > > Your 3dot method does not work for me. > Richard > > > On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Quentin Anciaux wrote: > >> >> 2013/12/23 Richard Ruquist >> >>> I post and receive via google email. >>> My only complaint is that I cannot intersperse >>> in others

Re: How the banks are stealing our wealth

On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 2:12 PM, meekerdb wrote: > On 12/23/2013 9:07 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > Crypto-currencies, like cryptography, can surely help to save the freedom > of privacy and privateness. > > Crypto-currencies does not need to be a pyramidal con, like Quentin > suspects. They just

Privacy

List-Friends of diverse linguistic origins: is there in another language a WORD meaning the same idiosyncrasy as what the USA " p r i v a c y " indeed covers? I know of none in German, Hungarian, Latin, French, Russian but maybe my 'second' vocabularies are defcient. I also wonder whether in the Pr

Re: Privacy

Hi, I would translate privacy in french by "Intimité" or "Vie privée". Regards, Quentin 2013/12/23 John Mikes > List-Friends of diverse linguistic origins: is there in another language a > WORD meaning the same idiosyncrasy as what the USA " p r i v a c y " indeed > covers? I know of none in

Re: Privacy

Hi John, On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 10:18 PM, John Mikes wrote: > List-Friends of diverse linguistic origins: is there in another language a > WORD meaning the same idiosyncrasy as what the USA " p r i v a c y " indeed > covers? In Portuguese, the most common word is "privacidade", which indeed is

Re: Privacy

Quentin, thanks, but both 'intimité' or 'Vie privée' have their proper (different) translations in English. You would not defend by law (constitution?) you intimité. JohnM On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 4:40 PM, Quentin Anciaux wrote: > Hi, > > I would translate privacy in french by "Intimité" or "Vie

Re: How the banks are stealing our wealth

On 12/23/2013 12:46 PM, Jason Resch wrote: On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 2:12 PM, meekerdb > wrote: On 12/23/2013 9:07 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Crypto-currencies, like cryptography, can surely help to save the freedom of privacy and privateness. Crypt

Re: Privacy

2013/12/23 John Mikes > Quentin, thanks, but both 'intimité' or 'Vie privée' have their proper > (different) translations in English. > You would not defend by law (constitution?) you intimité. > Yes, you can use it for that... but you would mostly use "Vie privée", but "Intimité" is ok too...

Re: How the banks are stealing our wealth

2013/12/23 meekerdb > On 12/23/2013 12:46 PM, Jason Resch wrote: > > > > > On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 2:12 PM, meekerdb wrote: > >> On 12/23/2013 9:07 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> Crypto-currencies, like cryptography, can surely help to save the freedom >> of privacy and privateness. >> >> Cryp

Re: Privacy

Telmo, thanks. Does 'sigilo' not come from the Latin word for 'sign' (sigillum)? which I would trace through its way of 'expression of' rather than the American privacy-crase.Your translations are OK, if you use the translational ways I wanted to veryfy in their REAL format. I would not divert eit

Yes, my book 'Reality' does cover quantum reality.

All, Someone asked somewhere if I cover quantum theory in my book. Yes, I do. The entire 'Part III: Elementals' of the book covers reality at its finest scale, the quantum world. I'll summarize here but can only gloss over some of the main points. As stated before reality, at its most fund

Re: Yes, my book 'Reality' does cover quantum reality.

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Re: How the banks are stealing our wealth

On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 5:02 PM, meekerdb wrote: > On 12/23/2013 12:46 PM, Jason Resch wrote: > > > > > On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 2:12 PM, meekerdb wrote: > >> On 12/23/2013 9:07 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> Crypto-currencies, like cryptography, can surely help to save the freedom >> of privac

Re: Yes, my book 'Reality' does cover quantum reality.

Thanks for purchasing it. Note that in the Kindle edition the Title page and table of contents formatting is a little screwed up but the text seems OK. Edgar On Monday, December 23, 2013 7:15:13 PM UTC-5, Edgar L. Owen wrote: > > All, > > Someone asked somewhere if I cover quantum theory in my

Re: How the banks are stealing our wealth

On 12/23/2013 6:54 PM, Jason Resch wrote: On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 5:02 PM, meekerdb > wrote: On 12/23/2013 12:46 PM, Jason Resch wrote: On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 2:12 PM, meekerdb mailto:meeke...@verizon.net>> wrote: On 12/23/2013 9:07 AM, Brun

Re: How the banks are stealing our wealth

On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 10:22 PM, meekerdb wrote: > On 12/23/2013 6:54 PM, Jason Resch wrote: > > > > > On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 5:02 PM, meekerdb wrote: > >> On 12/23/2013 12:46 PM, Jason Resch wrote: >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 2:12 PM, meekerdb wrote: >> >>> On 12/23/2013 9:07 A

Re: How the banks are stealing our wealth

On 12/23/2013 8:57 PM, Jason Resch wrote: On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 10:22 PM, meekerdb > wrote: On 12/23/2013 6:54 PM, Jason Resch wrote: On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 5:02 PM, meekerdb mailto:meeke...@verizon.net>> wrote: On 12/23/2013 12:46 PM, Jas