[FairfieldLife] Victory Beef or War?

2006-08-05 Thread cardemaister
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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Maheshi Yogi?

2006-08-05 Thread Ingegerd
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Aug 4, 2006, at 7:54 PM, Peter wrote: --- shukra69 stephen4359@ wrote: A friend of mine has taken the whole SRI SRI program. it

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-05 Thread Paul Mason
I have already included mention of the sexual allegations in the biography, but I draw a line at the 'poisoning'. However, should RK provide me with a dub of his interview with Swaroopanand, I would not hesitate in sharing its contents with a wider audience. I doubt the reason that

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-05 Thread nablus108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have already included mention of the sexual allegations in the biography, but I draw a line at the 'poisoning'. However, should RK provide me with a dub of his interview with Swaroopanand, I would not hesitate in

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Maheshi Yogi?

2006-08-05 Thread Peter
--- rmy108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 4, 2006, at 8:56 PM, randymeltzer wrote: What is the official position of the art of living organization

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I Snark, Therefore I Am (feeling better, if not superior)

2006-08-05 Thread Peter
--- shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, elastomeric_brotherhood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Aug

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-05 Thread Ingegerd
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason premanandpaul@ wrote: I have already included mention of the sexual allegations in the biography, but I draw a line at the 'poisoning'. However, should RK

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-05 Thread Paul Mason
Allegedly, when MMY was asked for a reaction to the Linda Pierce accusation that they had sex together, he is said to have advised psychiatric treatment for her (in spite of his long-held reservations about psychiatry). When I read your accusations, I am tempted to a similar response. ---

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-05 Thread Paul Mason
Allegedly, when MMY was asked for a reaction to the Linda Pearce accusation that they had sex together, he is said to have advised psychiatric treatment for her (in spite of his long-held reservations about psychiatry). When I read your accusations, I am tempted to make a similar response. ---

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Maheshi Yogi?

2006-08-05 Thread rmy108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- rmy108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: --- Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Aug 4, 2006, at 8:56 PM, randymeltzer wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Reconciling, the TMorg, 'severing connection'

2006-08-05 Thread dhamiltony2k5
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: A lasting peace and reconciliation? Reconciling the numbers, what would the TMOrg need do, to reconcile with its people? It had got

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-05 Thread Vaj
I wasn't referring to Swarupananda, but others who were likely witnesses.On Aug 5, 2006, at 6:03 AM, Paul Mason wrote:I have already included mention of the sexual allegations in the  biography, but I draw a line at the 'poisoning'. However, should RK  provide me with a dub of his interview with

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Maheshi Yogi?

2006-08-05 Thread Peter
--- rmy108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree that it is speculation, but it seems to me that if he were really still MMY's disciple that he would be proud enough of that fact to use it to his advantage. MMY is world famous, as is TM. By mentioning that, it would give him credibility

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY : Celibacy and TMO Teachers

2006-08-05 Thread Peter
Years ago in Ffld I used to meditate on a sheep skin. It was quite cozy and warm on those cold winter mornings in the dome. But I always picked-up a subtle, but uncomfortable vibe from it. Then one day in meditation I spontaneously had a very clear cognition of the extreme distress of the sheep

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-05 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason premanandpaul@ wrote: I have already included mention of the sexual allegations in the biography, but I draw a line at the 'poisoning'. However, should RK

Re: [FairfieldLife] Victory Beef or War?

2006-08-05 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Victory Beef or War? on 8/5/06 2:59 AM, cardemaister at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.whatfilms.com/vbw/index2.php Pretty cool. Very professionally put together. I wonder who did it? Now if only they could get rid of all the insane stuff which scares people

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-05 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome. on 8/5/06 6:58 AM, Paul Mason at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Allegedly, when MMY was asked for a reaction to the Linda Pierce accusation that they had sex together, he is said to have advised

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi?

2006-08-05 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi? on 8/5/06 7:23 AM, rmy108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree that it is speculation, but it seems to me that if he were really still MMY's disciple that he would be proud enough of that

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi?

2006-08-05 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi? on 8/5/06 8:51 AM, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sure some former or current TM with SSRS might have some cognitive dissonance and might be using the above to lessen the dissonance.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi?

2006-08-05 Thread Peter
--- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/5/06 8:51 AM, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sure some former or current TM with SSRS might have some cognitive dissonance and might be using the above to lessen the dissonance. But the relationship between MMY and SSRS is

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi?

2006-08-05 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi? on 8/5/06 10:04 AM, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure he could. Brahman is a field of all possibilities. I think he was clearly trying to convey the message to TM meditators who

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi?

2006-08-05 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/5/06 8:51 AM, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sure some former or current TM with SSRS might have some cognitive dissonance and might be using the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi?

2006-08-05 Thread Peter
--- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/5/06 10:04 AM, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure he could. Brahman is a field of all possibilities. I think he was clearly trying to convey the message to TM meditators who might be tempted to get involved with SSRS, or

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi?

2006-08-05 Thread Peter
--- jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/5/06 8:51 AM, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sure some former or current TM with SSRS might

[FairfieldLife] Re: Victory Beef or War?

2006-08-05 Thread Ingegerd
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/5/06 2:59 AM, cardemaister at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.whatfilms.com/vbw/index2.php Pretty cool. Very professionally put together. I wonder who did it? Now if only they could get rid of all the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-05 Thread Paul Mason
It was so long ago, but I remember being shocked that MMY was advocating psychiatry for Linda, since I had gained the impression he was so set against its application generally. So for him to make this exception underscored the weight of the reaction. But, whether the journalist got the remark

[FairfieldLife] Re: Victory Beef or War?

2006-08-05 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/5/06 2:59 AM, cardemaister at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.whatfilms.com/vbw/index2.php Pretty cool. Very professionally put together. I wonder who did it? Now if only they could get rid of all the

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi?

2006-08-05 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: --- Rick Archer groups@ wrote: on 8/5/06 8:51 AM, Peter at drpetersutphen@

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi?

2006-08-05 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/5/06 10:04 AM, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure he could. Brahman is a field of all possibilities. I think he was clearly trying to convey the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Victory Beef or War?

2006-08-05 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/5/06 2:59 AM, cardemaister at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.whatfilms.com/vbw/index2.php Pretty cool. Very professionally put together. I wonder who did it? Now if only they could get rid of all the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Victory Beef or War?

2006-08-05 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ wrote: on 8/5/06 2:59 AM, cardemaister at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.whatfilms.com/vbw/index2.php Pretty cool. Very professionally put

[FairfieldLife] Re: Victory Beef or War?

2006-08-05 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ wrote: snip The problem as I see it is that those running the movement have no choice but to adhere to the following logic: 1. Maharishi is enlightened.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-05 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It was so long ago, but I remember being shocked that MMY was advocating psychiatry for Linda, since I had gained the impression he was so set against its application generally. So for him to make this exception

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-05 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome. on 8/5/06 10:53 AM, Paul Mason at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It was so long ago, but I remember being shocked that MMY was advocating psychiatry for Linda, since I had gained the impression

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Victory Beef or War?

2006-08-05 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Victory Beef or War? on 8/5/06 11:34 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As I see it, Nature could very well, for some reason known only to Nature, want the enlightened person to do something *wrong*, in relative terms--make a mistake. This would *not*

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi?

2006-08-05 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi? on 8/5/06 10:45 AM, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:jflanegi%40pacbell.net wrote: When I first heard that comment from MMY I had the exact

[FairfieldLife] Re: Victory Beef or War?

2006-08-05 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ wrote: on 8/5/06 2:59 AM, cardemaister at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.whatfilms.com/vbw/index2.php Pretty cool. Very professionally put

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-05 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome. on 8/5/06 11:36 AM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It was so long

[FairfieldLife] Re: Victory Beef or War?

2006-08-05 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ wrote: snip The problem as I see it is that those running the movement have no

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi?

2006-08-05 Thread Sal Sunshine
Like Amway? Sal On Aug 5, 2006, at 10:43 AM, Peter wrote: When I first heard that comment from MMY I had the exact opposite reaction. To me MMY is calling SSRS Shiva. Could be, but most people wouldn¹t interpret it that way, and MMY would have realized that. Maybe it was one of those

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Victory Beef or War?

2006-08-05 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Victory Beef or War? on 8/5/06 12:01 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He's quite explicit in his Gita commentary that the enlightened person's actions are what Nature wants, but that the person doesn't necessarily grasp the *reason* why Nature

[FairfieldLife] Re: Victory Beef or War?

2006-08-05 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip He's quite explicit in his Gita commentary that the enlightened person's actions are what Nature wants, but that the person doesn't necessarily

[FairfieldLife] Re: Victory Beef or War?

2006-08-05 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/5/06 12:01 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He's quite explicit in his Gita commentary that the enlightened person's actions are what Nature wants, but that the person doesn't necessarily

[FairfieldLife] Re: Victory Beef or War?

2006-08-05 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip He's quite explicit in his Gita commentary that the enlightened

[FairfieldLife] Re: Victory Beef or War?

2006-08-05 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ wrote: snip The problem as I see it is that those running the movement have no

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-05 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/4/06 7:35 PM, Robert Gimbel at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And, besides, what is the motive in this; What is the motive for Maharishi to be involved with anything negative towards Guru Dev? What would be the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-05 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wasn't referring to Swarupananda, but others who were likely witnesses. On Aug 5, 2006, at 6:03 AM, Paul Mason wrote: I have already included mention of the sexual allegations in the biography, but I draw a line at

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi?

2006-08-05 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/5/06 7:23 AM, rmy108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree that it is speculation, but it seems to me that if he were really still MMY's disciple that he would be proud enough of that fact to use it to his

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-05 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have already included mention of the sexual allegations in the biography, but I draw a line at the 'poisoning'. However, should RK provide me with a dub of his interview with Swaroopanand, I would not hesitate in

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Maheshi Yogi?

2006-08-05 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- rmy108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree that it is speculation, but it seems to me that if he were really still MMY's disciple that he would be proud enough of that fact to use it to his advantage. MMY

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi?

2006-08-05 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/5/06 8:51 AM, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sure some former or current TM with SSRS might have some cognitive dissonance and might be using the above to lessen the dissonance. But the relationship

[FairfieldLife] The New Who CD

2006-08-05 Thread Vaj
Anyone in Britain get the new CD by the Who? It's only an EP really, but a mini rock opera at the same time, they're saying. We can only get it by import in the US. I'd like to hear a review. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to:

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi?

2006-08-05 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/5/06 10:04 AM, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure he could. Brahman is a field of all possibilities. I think he was clearly trying to convey the

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi?

2006-08-05 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/5/06 10:04 AM, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure he could. Brahman is a field of all possibilities. I think he was clearly trying to convey the message to TM meditators who might be tempted

[FairfieldLife] Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-05 Thread Michael Dean Goodman
shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] [snip] Thankfully the recerts (why do I think of Blade Runner and other science-fiction every time I hear the term recerts?) won't have to worry to much about it because no one is beating down their doors to get to TM. Gee, I wonder how many initiations

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi?

2006-08-05 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: --- Rick Archer groups@ wrote: on 8/5/06 8:51 AM, Peter at drpetersutphen@ wrote: I'm sure some former or current TM with

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-05 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It was so long ago, but I remember being shocked that MMY was advocating psychiatry for Linda, since I had gained the impression he was so set against its application generally. So for him to make this exception

[FairfieldLife] Re: Victory Beef or War?

2006-08-05 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ wrote: on 8/5/06 2:59 AM, cardemaister at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.whatfilms.com/vbw/index2.php Pretty cool. Very professionally put

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-05 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/4/06 7:35 PM, Robert Gimbel at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And, besides, what is the motive in this; What is the motive for Maharishi to be involved with anything negative towards Guru Dev? What would be the

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi?

2006-08-05 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ wrote: on 8/5/06 7:23 AM, rmy108 at rmy108@ wrote: I agree that it is speculation, but it seems to me that if he were really still MMY's disciple that

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi?

2006-08-05 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/5/06 8:51 AM, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sure some former or current TM with SSRS might have some cognitive dissonance and might be using the

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi?

2006-08-05 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: --- Rick Archer groups@ wrote: on 8/5/06 8:51 AM, Peter at drpetersutphen@

[FairfieldLife] Re: Victory Beef or War?

2006-08-05 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ wrote: on 8/5/06 2:59 AM, cardemaister at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.whatfilms.com/vbw/index2.php Pretty cool. Very professionally put

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-05 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: I wasn't referring to Swarupananda, but others who were likely witnesses. On Aug 5, 2006, at 6:03 AM, Paul Mason wrote: I have already included

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-05 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/5/06 11:36 AM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Paul Mason premanandpaul@ wrote: It was so long ago, but I remember

[FairfieldLife] Re: Victory Beef or War?

2006-08-05 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ wrote: snip

[FairfieldLife] Re: Victory Beef or War?

2006-08-05 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip He's quite explicit in his Gita commentary that the enlightened

[FairfieldLife] Re: Victory Beef or War?

2006-08-05 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Victory Beef or War?

2006-08-05 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ wrote: on 8/5/06 12:01 PM, shempmcgurk at shempmcgurk@ wrote: He's quite explicit in his Gita commentary that the enlightened person's actions are

[FairfieldLife] Ken and Janet Krumpe

2006-08-05 Thread steveemming
Does anyone know the where-abouts of Ken and Janet Krumpe? They were diretors at the Avon Park, Flordia TM Center. Any news would be helpful. Thanks, Steve To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This

[FairfieldLife] Re: Victory Beef or War?

2006-08-05 Thread Marek Reavis
Comment below: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip He's quite explicit in his Gita commentary that the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-05 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] I can only assume that there were dozens of devotees who loved and cared for Guru Dev and that they all, including MMY, had his best interests at heart. And the decision how to treat him must have been taken

[FairfieldLife] Re: Victory Beef or War?

2006-08-05 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-05 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: I wasn't referring to Swarupananda, but others who were likely witnesses. On

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-05 Thread Marek Reavis
Fine post. Thanks. ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ wrote: on 8/4/06 7:35 PM, Robert Gimbel at babajii_99@ wrote: And, besides, what is the motive in this; What is the motive

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-05 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: [...] I can only assume that there were dozens of devotees who loved and cared for Guru Dev and that they all, including MMY, had his best

[FairfieldLife] Re: Victory Beef or War?

2006-08-05 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis reavismarek@ wrote: Comment below: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk

[FairfieldLife] Re: Victory Beef or War?

2006-08-05 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis reavismarek@ wrote: Comment below: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend

[FairfieldLife] Re: Victory Beef or War?

2006-08-05 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis reavismarek@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Victory Beef or War?

2006-08-05 Thread Jason Spock
What the hell do you mean, "Enlighten the mind".?? "By applying it through action we enlighten the heart".?? Could you quote exactly where Maharishi said this in his BG.?? You don't enlighten your mind or heart. You enlighten yourself. You trancend your mind. The Enlightened

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-05 Thread gerbal88
Hi, Michael -- It is interesting to note these figures. I am surprised because, at least to me, $3000 or whatever the present fee is seems really high. But people are attracted both by the message and the mystique of TM. Back in the old days, when Mahesh was on the Merv Griffin show, we simply

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-05 Thread gerbal88
Marek, Shemp, Rick, Robert ... I hope you are right, that Guru Dev's demise was a natural one. Still, why would such a rumour start if this was, indeed, the case. It is very much like the death of Diana, Princess of Wales, or JFK. There are some loose ends, or the appearance of loose ends and,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-05 Thread Jason Spock
Sore butts certainly yes. Has anybody developed hernia or any other complication from this.?? I think Sudharshana Kriya is much safer. The God of Abraham guiding his accursed people out of Egypt is pure MYTH. No evidence of it exists. gerbal88 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Sat, 05 Aug

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-05 Thread gerbal88
Evidence of the Exodus was explored in a recent History Channel programme. Whether it's myth or not, an all knowing God who guides his people to hell on earth (what other name can there be for the Middle East) and calls it the Promised Land, the Land of Milk and Honey is interesting, whether

[FairfieldLife] Diksha Question

2006-08-05 Thread Bhairitu
What are these diksha providers doing when they give diksha. Are they just giving shaktipat by touching someone on the third eye? I've been looking for a description on both Chalanda Ma and Kalki's web site but they don't explain it other than it being a transmission of energy which is more

[FairfieldLife] Re: Victory Beef or War?

2006-08-05 Thread Marek Reavis
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: **SNIP** Everyone is a force of nature, by definition, . . .. **END** Yes, and Brahman alone is, behind all. So, although I wasn't actually suggesting that there are enlightened criminals, that does seem possible to me.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ken and Janet Krumpe

2006-08-05 Thread randymeltzer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steveemming [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know the where-abouts of Ken and Janet Krumpe? They were diretors at the Avon Park, Flordia TM Center. Any news would be helpful. Thanks, Steve When they left Florida they moved to Maui, where Ken was

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-05 Thread Robert Gimbel
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marek, Shemp, Rick, Robert ... I hope you are right, that Guru Dev's demise was a natural one. Still, why would such a rumour start if this was, indeed, the case. It is very much like the death of Diana, Princess of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-05 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Dean Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] [snip] Thankfully the recerts (why do I think of Blade Runner and other science-fiction every time I hear the term recerts?) won't have to worry to much about it

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-05 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Dean Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] [snip] Thankfully the recerts (why do I think of Blade Runner and other science-fiction every time I hear the term recerts?) won't have to worry to much about it

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-05 Thread Jason Spock
For 3000 years there was no Israel or Palestine. Ever since King Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon conquered that territory, that land was continously under foreign rule. The Persians, Romans, Turks, British, etc etc. For 3000 years, that land was known as Judea. Creating an artificial state in 1948

[FairfieldLife] Re: Victory Beef or War?

2006-08-05 Thread Robert Gimbel
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What the hell do you mean, Enlighten the mind.?? By applying it through action we enlighten the heart.?? Could you quote exactly where Maharishi said this in his BG.?? You don't

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-05 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marek, Shemp, Rick, Robert ... I hope you are right, that Guru Dev's demise was a natural one. Still, why would such a rumour start if this was, indeed, the case. It is very much like the death of Diana, Princess of

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi?

2006-08-05 Thread markmeredith2002
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/5/06 10:04 AM, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure he could. Brahman is a field of all possibilities. I think he was clearly trying to convey the message to TM meditators who might be tempted

[FairfieldLife] The List: who has left the Movement and started their own cult/movement?

2006-08-05 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] I don't post this to knock SSRS techniques, which sound fine to me. And people can speculate all they want about MMY's hidden motives here or esoteric interpretations of his negative statement re.

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Popularity of Christianity Vs, Buddhism'

2006-08-05 Thread Jason Spock
The Roman empire in it's later stages split into two halves, Western and Eastern Roman empires. The emperor of Eastern Roman empire Constantine converted himself to Christianity. He later on conquered the Western half and thus Christianity became state religion of Europe.Robert Gimbel

[FairfieldLife] Re: Victory Beef or War?

2006-08-05 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What the hell do you mean, Enlighten the mind.?? By applying it through action we enlighten the heart.?? Could you quote exactly where Maharishi said this in his BG.?? You don't

Re: [FairfieldLife] The List: who has left the Movement and started their own cult/movement?

2006-08-05 Thread Peter
--- shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] I don't post this to knock SSRS techniques, which sound fine to me. And people can speculate all they want about MMY's hidden motives here

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi?

2006-08-05 Thread Peter
--- markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The official clearly stated policy of the TMO is that tm-sidhas should not practice SSRS techniques and those that do have been banned from the dome for many years now. Unless you think MMY doesn't have anything to do with TMO policy,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Victory Beef or War?

2006-08-05 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: **SNIP** Everyone is a force of nature, by definition, . . .. **END** Yes, and Brahman alone is, behind all. So, although I wasn't actually

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