[FairfieldLife] Re: Health-Faucet vs. Toilet-Paper....????
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 5/10/06 8:16 PM, Jason Spock at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: we should merge eastern and western ideas! which i think is already happening! hehehehehe! That¹s what I do, and have done for decades. I use toilet paper and then water, and then dry with a washcloth reserved for the purpose. How do I use water? I sit over the edge of the bathtub and use my left hand, which I wash with soap afterwards. Is that more information than you wanted to know? Check the photos section for more. (just kidding on that last point.) Rick, I think now FFL has covered all possible information. Now the universe will just blink out like at the end of the 9 Billion Names of God :-) JohnY To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hi from Curtis
Google Groups tell us that your exchanges with Curtis happened between February 1997 and November 1997. THAT'S ALMOST 10 FUCKING YEARS AGO!!! Maybe the poor bastard is a different person? Maybe he's changed (assuming that he was this horrible person that you paint him out as being)? Why in heaven's name can't you give it up, Judy? Do you not see your obsessive post (below) as being a tad bit kooky? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: I still would like to know what upset you about my post. I wasn't upset by it, Curtis. Mildly disappointed, but not surprised, that you hadn't changed, as I said to start with. OK, Curtis, let's go over it again. Let's see whether you can actually address what I've already said. I'm betting you won't: My meta comment on my feelings about the value of our previous postings was meant as a positive . Rick had it right. Note that what Rick said was that he thought you had paid me a compliment. You say he had it right. Sorry, but I don't buy it. If you're interested in knowing why, I'll tell you, but I suspect you're not. I was surprised when you reacted so strongly to my message. It was not meant to offend you, quite the opposite. Here's what you wrote: Nice to hear from you Judy. I look back on the AMT days as an important experience for me. There were times when I felt misunderstood and very frustrated, but that stressful dynamic was the reason I kept at it so long. It was incredibly useful for me to articulate my thoughts about the movement in such detail, and it never would have happened without me being so pissed off at your messages. Please explain the basis on which you believe I should have taken this as a sincere compliment. You didn't respond. If it's so obvious that it was a compliment, as Rick said and you confirmed, why couldn't you just explain what the compliment was? Perhaps this version will make more sense: The reason I kept posting was because of you. Posting was a good thing for me. Got it? So where's the compliment? How is that some kind of attempt at reconciliation, as Shemp claims? (You said this over and over again back on alt.m.t, of course, so there's nothing new here.) Next, let's restore what I was responding to that you go on to quote: I thought you could relate to what I was saying. It must have been frustrating for you on AMT too, but I assumed you are happy you got your points across in the end. Does what you wrote that I quoted above describe my having gotten my points across? No. But if you had related to what I wrote in the way I expected, you might have thought Yes I got my points across also, even though the discussions were difficult. That was my expectation in writing it. That it would piss you off never crossed my mind. Why on *earth* should I have thought you were suggesting I got my points across? For that matter, why on earth should I imagine on the basis of our alt.m.t exchanges that I got my points across? The exact opposite was the case. My problem with you, Curtis, was (and is) your gross intellectual (and even factual) dishonesty. With people like you, it's never entirely clear whether they're *intending* to mislead and deceive, or whether they've done such a snow job on themselves that they genuinely believe their own misrepresentations. So I'll have to give you the benefit of the doubt on that point. Excellent example of why it was so hard to continue posting on AMT. Ah, so it wasn't hard because I was getting my points across. It was hard because my posts were pissing you off. Of course, on alt.m.t, I didn't start calling you on your dishonesty for quite a while, until it had become blatantly obvious you had no intention of being straightforward. It didn't take as long here because it was so clear the old pattern was repeating itself. Very condescending and unfriendly. Starting a sentence with people like you is demeaning and rude. You have no reason to call me a liar and someone who has done a snowjob on themselves, That would be or, Curtis, not and. whatever that means, based on what I have posted here. Well, yes, I do, and this present exchange is a perfect example. It's also *exactly* the sort of thing you pulled repeatedly in our discussions on alt.m.t: sidestepping, shifting ground, never addressing the point. My problem with you, Curtis, was (and is) your gross intellectual (and even factual) dishonesty. I invite you to show me where I have been intellectually or factually dishonest in my posts here. No clearcut factual dishonesty here, so far as I know, but plenty of intellectual dishonesty, as I've just demonstrated. Plenty of
[FairfieldLife] Re: Girlfriends Galore for MMY, eh?-
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 5/10/06 6:27 PM, Jason Spock at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jokes apart, Sir Archer mentioned that it wasn't a One-Way street. If the women did initiate and Maharishi was forced to Satisfy their sexual urges, then It's not really Maharishi's fault. He can't say NO and disappoint his disciples.?? Maharishi initiated all the ³relationships² I¹m aware of, but never forcefully. The accounts indicate that he didn¹t display the coercion and persistence that usually characterizes men overshadowed by lust. If the woman indicated she wasn¹t interested, he backed off immediately. Gloria Steinem says that a man is allowed one free grope, one free open mouthed kiss, one free placing of a woman's hand over the man's genitals and as long as a man respects the woman's no to all of the above and doesn't go further, that's okay! So, at least according to Gloria Steinem's standard, Maharishi acted appropriately. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hi from Curtis
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: snip Excellent example of why it was so hard to continue posting on AMT. Ah, so it wasn't hard because I was getting my points across. It was hard because my posts were pissing you off. One more point. I think the real reason it was so hard for you to continue posting, and why my posts pissed you off, was that I wouldn't let you get away with anything. You had put together a nice little story for yourself as to why you had left the movement, but it was all vague generalities. When you were asked for specifics, you were unable to come up with anything that actually supported the generality. The story existed in a vacuum; it wasn't connected to reality, and it couldn't stand up to challenge. You had a tremendous investment in that story, and when you saw it being picked apart and shown to be without foundation, that was extremely threatening to you. You expended a tremendous amount of effort coming up with a huge bunch of rationalizations to prop the story up so you could continue to believe in it, at the same time standing on your head to avoid confronting the issue of how well it related to reality. I am *not* suggesting you didn't have perfectly good reasons to leave the movement, but that, for some reason, the real reasons were unpalatable and unsatisfying, hence the invented story (Lifton and suggestibility a la Joe Kellett and so on). Judy: What's the statute of limitations on WHO GIVES A FUCK? That was 10 years ago, woman! Give it up. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Jerry Jarvis
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 5/10/06 6:37 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I may be delusionary, but I truly believe that the kind of things we discuss here can be incredibly beneficial to the health of the TMO and the future success of TM in the world. I agree, because I think that the TMO could be helped tremendously by some self-examination which resulted in its becoming more honest, down- to-earth, practical, open-minded, etc. I always secretly hope that we are monitored by some higher-ups in the TMO so that there is at least ONE channel to get the good ideas and feedback about the TMO's performance back to the powers that be. We are, but I don't think they see open discussion of issues sensitive to the TMO to be a healthy thing. They've been trained to stifle such discussion and banish its participants. Having Jerry be a participant here would actually lend credibility to my admittedly delusionary fantasy. Probably not, because he's persona non grata in the TMO. Do you know the reason(s) why he is persona non grata? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] TM people develop yet another cult trait
Remember when the Hari Krisnas used to accost people in airports and public streets and hit them up for donations? Although I remember them doing it in full Krishna regalia (i.e. flowing robes, pigtails and tambourines), I also remember when they went through a stage in which they did the prostelytizing purposely dressed as westerners. And, sneakily, they would ask for donations for their educational organisation. If pressed further, they would say it was for ISKCON and unless you asked them what that was an acronym for, you were none-the-wiser that you were giving money to the HK's. Well, TMer Stephen Collins pulled a Hari Krishna last year when he appeared on Bravo's Celebrity Poker series (he won) in which each episode 5 celebrities play No-Limit Texas Hold 'Em for their favourite charity. Collins announced he was playing for The MUM Foundation. No mention of TM or Maharishi, just like the Hari Krishnas used to. All he did was explain that the Mum Foundation offered a technology to promote World Peace. Take a look: http://tinyurl.com/zroba Well, maybe it isn't that Collins doesn't want to mention MMY or the TMO. Maybe it's just that he's embarrassed to...kinda the same way that when people ask me what college I went to I say: oh, I went to a private college in Iowa. When they ask me further I say: Do you remember a Parson's College? And if they say yes, I say: Well, that's the same location where I went to school (I can't then be accused of lying). To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Democracy Has Failed
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Gillam wrote: he was more interested in truth as he saw it than in converting someone else. Surely you can see how the two can coexist. This last sentence doesn't make sense. It should be, Surely you can appreciate the difference. Thanks. I liked the first version better. :-) And the reason I liked it better is that my life experiences have shown me that the word truth is basically an illusion, a name we put on our current state of attention and point of view. I honestly don't believe that there is such a thing as Truth with a capital T. In my earlier post, I wasn't really talking about the letter from Iran's President per se, but about the nature of spiritual conversations, and what you said about LBS. The point I was trying to make is that arguing for your position is great if you only have one position. But I'm capable of holding multiple positions on the same subject at once, each one of them approp- riate to a particular state of attention. Because I've *had* to (I worked with a teacher who, however he managed to do it, could just blow your small-s self right out of its socks, over and over and over, as quickly as you can snap your fingers. So you'd be sitting there in one state of attention, convinced you know the truth about the thing being discussed, and then snap! you'd move into another state of attention in which there was a completely different truth. And then snap! he'd do it again, and again, and again, until after five minutes you'd have seen and experienced ten or twelve different states of attention, and ten or twelve different truths. So now...which one of them is Truth? The only sense I've been able to make of the whole experience is that all of them are, *from the state of attention for which they represent truth*. From another, they are not. I readily admit that in some conversations there is an aspect of factual truth that can be main- tained and argued about. But in spiritual dis- cussions, to me truth is and will always be relative. Two people can be presenting completely opposite points of view on a subject and *both* of them are correct. That's why I brought up the example of the other discussion group I'm a part of sometimes where almost all of the participants feel this way, and no one argues and tries to sell his or her particular flavor of truth. They just present their point of view, and then the next person presents theirs, and no one tries to say that one is better or more correct or more true than another. I find it refreshing. In the case of this particular letter, I agree with you that the US would be better served by listening to what the President of Iran is saying, and trying to figure out who they're really dealing with, instead of imagining it based on their prejudices. And if they disagree with him on some points (which of course they would), they could reply presenting their version of things, their truth. In an ideal world, they could do this without trying to paint him as a bad guy or a liar because they disagree on these points; he could present his point of view and they could present theirs, and allow the lurkers to choose which they preferred. But we know that ain't gonna happen. International affairs are all too often like FFL; some people feel compelled *to* sell their point of view as the best or the most true, and compelled at the same time to paint anyone who doesn't agree with that point of view as a bad guy, or a liar, or stupid, or whatever. The sad reality is that the US won't even go as far as to *listen* to what this guy says. They'll just start painting him as a bad guy without even reading it. But the point I tried to make yester- day was really oriented more to spiritual discus- sion groups like this one, where I think -- or hope -- that we have more flexibility, and can discuss things on a different level. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: A letter to Maharishi.
Wouldn't it be interesting if he ever got to read this letter? But of course that can never happen. Even if you sent it, his handlers would filter it out and make sure he never saw it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, uns_tressor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maharish Mahesh Yogi, Vlodrop, Netherlands. May 11, 2006. 0.00 BST. Dear Maharishi, A year ago, you banned the giving of Guru Dev's gift to anybody in the British Isles. This was because Tony Blair was returned to power at the General Election as a result of 22% of those on the voting list voting for him. It is reasonable to suppose that you imagined that this would have some sort of special impact on the UK. During this year, Nature has sent misfortunes. Some are listed below: 1. Pakistan. Earthquake. October. 70,000+ dead. 2. USA. Hurricane Katrina. 1600 estimated dead 3. Phillipines. Mud landslide. Feb 16. 1,500+ die 4. USA. Hurrican Stan. Guatamala. 1513 dead. 5. India. Earthquake. Oct. 1300 dead. 6. Iraq. Bagdad. Aug 31 1000 dead panic stampede 7. India. Maharashtra floods of July. 1000 killed 8. Egypt. Ferry capsizes. Feb 2nd. 1,000+ 9. China. Floods. June. 771 died. 10. Nigeria. Measles epidemic. 561 dead. 11. Mecca, Mina. Jan. 360 die in panic 12. Iraq. Jan 4. 200 dead in retaliatory bloodshed 13. Baghdad. Al Zakarwi's return. 150 die in a day 14. India. Gujarat Floods. 123 killed. July 2005 15. USA. Hurricane Rita. 119 die 16. Baghdad. July 17. +100 killed car bomb 17. Iraq. September 29. 95 die in set of bombs 18. Nigeria. Christian/Islamic riots.80 die.Feb 23 19. Iraq. 79 killed. Attack on mosque. April 7. 20. Iraq. Nov 18. 74 dead. Shia East Iraq. Bombs 21. Iraq. Crowded market bomb. 71 killed. May 11. 22. Iraq. Ramadi 70 killed. (by mistake?) Oct 17 23. Mexico City. 66 die in coach crash April 17. 24. Iran. Earthquake. Mar 31. 66+ killed 25. Mexico. mining disaster. 65 killed. Feb 19. 26. Poland. Roof collapse (snow). 62 dead. Jan 28 27. *** France. 14 days of riots. 4,000 cars burnt. 28. *** Central Europe. Floods. Aug 2005 29. Russia. Roof collapse. 57 killed. Feb 23rd 30. Bahrain. Pleasure boat sinks. 57 die. Mar 30. At No. 27, 28, I have included two events which are rather strange. I believe that although they involved little or no loss of life, they should be still be listed. The British Isles did suffer a misfortune; on July 7, suicide bombers blew up three underground trains. Since the list is based on loss of life, this incident does not merit inclusion. It would feature somewhere down in the thirties or, because the list is not complete, possibly in the forties. I would ask you one question, Maharishi: Do you rate your actions on May 11 2005 a success? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hi from Curtis
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (I mention for the sake of anyone else reading this that it is only with great restraint and effort that I do not take the phrase snowjob into the gutter for a field day. Great restraint... there are so many funny ways to use it...!) There is a prevalent theory here that the use of the term 'snowjob' is a misspelling, and that it really refers to the poster's inability to tell the difference between arguing and sex. :-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hi from Curtis
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All that's going to happen to you if you respond to her is that you WILL end up angry, resentful and negative. You make a good point! Thanks for sticking up for me. I think the biggest problem is that our back and forth is so boring. I apologize for that. In any case it can't last long. You have no idea. I don't have it in me these days. Good for you. Life's too fuckin' short, man. I continued through all the you are a liar barrage last time because I wanted to get my thoughts out. This time I do not have that motivation. I am just enjoying hearing from old friends, especially since many were perplexed about me leaving TM after being so into it for so long. Thanks again. Good to hear from you. I agree wholeheartedly with Shemp. There is only one sane response -- DO NOT RESPOND. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hi from Curtis-
Is it possible, you must have really offended AuthFriend in your previous incarnation. Maybe that's why she torments you.TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 09:16:58 -Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hi from CurtisGood to hear from you. I agree wholeheartedly withShemp. There is only one sane response -- DO NOTRESPOND. Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Health-Faucet vs. Toilet-Paper....????
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All in this forum, Please Note that Washing Hands with Soap is very Important after using the Toilet. And occasionally after reading posts on FFL. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Girlfriends Galore for MMY, eh?-
If this is true, then it's sad. A seer who renounced everything should never initiate relationships. He must have done quite a lot of backing off. Could you give some examples where he backed off, after attempting to initiate.??Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 23:59:20 -0500Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Girlfriends Galore for MMY, eh?-Maharishi initiated all the relationships Im aware of, but never forcefully. The accounts indicate that he didnt display the coercion and persistence that usually characterizes men overshadowed by lust. If the woman indicated she wasnt interested, he backed off immediately. How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messengers low PC-to-Phone call rates. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Democracy Has Failed
Responses interleaved below. --- TurquoiseB wrote: my life experiences have shown me that the word truth is basically an illusion, a name we put on our current state of attention and point of view. ... Fairfield Life has given me a strong appreciation of the malleability of truth. As a result, when I do the work of Byron Katie, the answers to those first two questions usually come easily. Is it true? Can you absolutely know that it's true? In that sense, FFL has been an important part of my growth in the last five years. arguing for your position is great if you only have one position. ... Two people can be presenting completely opposite points of view on a subject and *both* of them are correct. This has led to some maddening exchanges here. Someone would be taking Rory Goff to task, for instance, about some claim he made about Brahman consciousness, and Rory would respond with, Yeah, what you say is true, too. It's the Jaimini thing that Tom Traynor champions. That's why I brought up the example of the other discussion group I'm a part of sometimes where almost all of the participants feel this way, and no one argues and tries to sell his or her particular flavor of truth. They just present their point of view, and then the next person presents theirs, and no one tries to say that one is better or more correct or more true than another. I find it refreshing. I had a few graduate school seminar classes like that. People would just go around the table and speak from their points of view (except for the Asians, who would not speak at all). There was no discussion, no questioning, no unpacking of the underlying beliefs that formed those opinions. I found it boring. If everyone already accepts that all those points of view are true, then fine, listen and move on. But sometimes the dialectic helps people arrive at that conclusion that all these different perspectives and truths have their places. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hi from Curtis
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Google Groups tell us that your exchanges with Curtis happened between February 1997 and November 1997. THAT'S ALMOST 10 FUCKING YEARS AGO!!! Maybe the poor bastard is a different person? Maybe he's changed (assuming that he was this horrible person that you paint him out as being)? Why in heaven's name can't you give it up, Judy? Do you not see your obsessive post (below) as being a tad bit kooky? A tad bit kooky? How about way kooky and so typical we've all grown used to it, but watch anyway, like people rubbernecking at a car accident? More like a fine whine that grows more bitter with age. I'm sure the cognitive dissonance is wearing on her, defending something long dead, as this latest obsessive rant from Ms. Stein shows. Can't transcend these deep attachments. I feel her pain. She's lost yet another imagined bet. But what an actice imagination! Thats the power of TM. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hi from Curtis
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes Judy you are right about everything...(backs slowly out of the room) really, everything is just fine, Thank you ( I find the door knob without taking my eyes off of her and slip out the door backwards.) Click. Then the sound of rapid footsteps and a car door opens and closes. The car is heard laying rubber half way down the street. The end. Curtis - coming through with the daily chuckle early on. This is good stuff, Curtis. lurk To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Girlfriends Galore for MMY, eh?-
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gloria Steinem says that a man is allowed one free grope, one free open mouthed kiss, one free placing of a woman's hand over the man's genitals and as long as a man respects the woman's no to all of the above and doesn't go further, that's okay! So, at least according to Gloria Steinem's standard, Maharishi acted appropriately. Man, a solid two chuckle morning. This is good. lurk To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hi from Curtis
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_astute_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: Google Groups tell us that your exchanges with Curtis happened between February 1997 and November 1997. THAT'S ALMOST 10 FUCKING YEARS AGO!!! Maybe the poor bastard is a different person? Maybe he's changed (assuming that he was this horrible person that you paint him out as being)? Why in heaven's name can't you give it up, Judy? Do you not see your obsessive post (below) as being a tad bit kooky? A tad bit kooky? How about way kooky and so typical we've all grown used to it, but watch anyway, like people rubbernecking at a car accident? More like a fine whine that grows more bitter with age. I'm sure the cognitive dissonance is wearing on her, defending something long dead, as this latest obsessive rant from Ms. Stein shows. Can't transcend these deep attachments. I feel her pain. I honestly think that's the whole point. She's in pain, and wants other people to feel it and share it. I am commenting with (I hope) some sense of compassion, because this latest escapade is so transparent that I think almost everyone here sees it for what it is. In all honesty, I think that the sense of pain Judy feels and hopes to share with people comes from an ever- shrinking self (small s). She has been imprisoned in it for so long that she has really come to believe that it is who she is. Unlike some here, she really hasn't ever had strong experiences that just blow her out of her socks and out of her self long enough to realize that it's an illusion. So when someone challenges the ideas she has about her self, the self reacts angrily, and out of a sense of survival. It's like watching a psychic fight-or-flight response, in this case almost always spoiling for a fight. The solution is something that, sadly, none of us can provide her with -- a transcendental or near- transcendental experience so strong that she exper- iences and *feels* how illusory her ideas of self are, how illusory her beliefs are, how manufactured are her truths. Without that subjective experience, there's really very little possibility of her self releasing control and allowing the human being who lives inside to shine forth. Compounding the problem is the fact that, unlike many if not most of the people here, Judy has never been a teacher. Those who have know all too well the liberating effect of having to put one's ego and self on the shelf, in the interest of another. Yeah, you'd like to stand up there in front of a group of people and say shit that glorifies your own ego and gets them to compliment you and say how brilliant you are. But it's just not fuckin' *appropriate*, man. Your position there in front of the class is to *help* people, to possibly convey enough experience and information to them to assist them in their own self realization. This is a process that wears *away* the self, as opposed to reinforcing its hold on us. Judy has never had that experience. As far as I can tell, her gratification and sense of satisfaction in life has always come from one thing and one thing only -- winning arguments. She posts links here to her Great Slams Of The Past, asking people to go read how she devastated some opponent with her brilliance years or decades ago. I ask you...if that's not sad, and deserving of compassion, what is? Is there *nothing* in her present that she can see and point to with a similar sense of pride or accomplishment? I'm sorry to perpetuate this whole mess by comment- ing again, but really the time felt right to do so. I've been avoiding her -- I do not read her posts, except as quoted by other posters whose posts I do read, and I do not reply to anything she says to me or about me. It's the only thing I can think of to do. I feel sad for her, and for whatever circumstances made her this unhappy, after a life- time of meditation, but really IT'S JUST NOT MY FUCKIN' PROBLEM. I wish her well at becoming a human being, but after all these years with no change whatsoever, I'm not gonna hold my breath, and I'm certainly not going to compound things by responding to her and giving her sad ego the fuel it needs to perpetuate the stranglehold it has on her. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hi from Curtis
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good to hear from you. I agree wholeheartedly with Shemp. There is only one sane response -- DO NOT RESPOND. Do a Nancy Reagan, Just say. lurk To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Health-Faucet vs. Toilet-Paper....????
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock jedi_spock@ wrote: All in this forum, Please Note that Washing Hands with Soap is very Important after using the Toilet. And occasionally after reading posts on FFL. :) (my first smiley face) lurk To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hi from Curtis
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I'm sorry to perpetuate this whole mess by comment- ing again, but really the time felt right to do so. snip Good post Turqarooni. lurk To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hi from Curtis
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_astute_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A tad bit kooky? How about way kooky and so typical we've all grown used to it, but watch anyway, like people rubbernecking at a car accident? More like a fine whine that grows more bitter with age. I'm sure the cognitive dissonance is wearing on her, defending something long dead, as this latest obsessive rant from Ms. Stein shows. Can't transcend these deep attachments. I feel her pain. She's lost yet another imagined bet. But what an actice imagination! Thats the power of TM. Good A. lurk To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Hoo needs this!
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Hi from Curtis-
Times have changed. This group for one. Through the years I wondered if there was really anyone home. I got my answer. In any case the boredom must end for everyone elses sake. I can't imagine how many times you guys have lived through this cycle! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it possible, you must have really offended AuthFriend in your previous incarnation. Maybe that's why she torments you. TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 09:16:58 - Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hi from Curtis Good to hear from you. I agree wholeheartedly with Shemp. There is only one sane response -- DO NOT RESPOND. - Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Jerry Jarvis
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer fairfieldlife@ wrote: Having Jerry be a participant here would actually lend credibility to my admittedly delusionary fantasy. Probably not, because he's persona non grata in the TMO. Do you know the reason(s) why he is persona non grata? Rick can give the various incidents that may be involved, but I think the real underlying reason is that he functioned from a place of heart and common sense, and people like that were increasingly not wanted in leadership positions. He had mucho devotion to MMY, but came out of the early generation of mov't leaders who did not function as yes men and who had an aversion to acting like nazis. Concepts around devotion to MMY and purity of the teaching began having a much different interpretation around the time Jerry and his cronies were being phased out and the younger generation of Bevan and his clones were coming in. I hate to get political but it reminds me of the current situation in the repub. party, where almost every day now you have a traditional conservative coming out or publishing a book expressing how odd they feel in the new repub. party that has nothing to do with traditional conservative values, like small gov't, balanced budgets, gov't out of the morality game, competent defense, etc., and all that matters with the new repubs. is demonstrating loyalty to Bush and somehow making money off the gov't via your connections. Some really solid conseratives are talking about an authoritarian cult of personality around Bush that's become the central theme of the party, that has them bewildered. I think the TMO went through a similar change in the late 70s that left the old timers a little bewildered. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hi from Curtis
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_astute_ff no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: Google Groups tell us that your exchanges with Curtis happened between February 1997 and November 1997. THAT'S ALMOST 10 FUCKING YEARS AGO!!! Maybe the poor bastard is a different person? Maybe he's changed (assuming that he was this horrible person that you paint him out as being)? Why in heaven's name can't you give it up, Judy? Do you not see your obsessive post (below) as being a tad bit kooky? A tad bit kooky? How about way kooky and so typical we've all grown used to it, but watch anyway, like people rubbernecking at a car accident? More like a fine whine that grows more bitter with age. I'm sure the cognitive dissonance is wearing on her, defending something long dead, as this latest obsessive rant from Ms. Stein shows. Can't transcend these deep attachments. I feel her pain. I honestly think that's the whole point. She's in pain, and wants other people to feel it and share it. I am commenting with (I hope) some sense of compassion, because this latest escapade is so transparent that I think almost everyone here sees it for what it is. In all honesty, I think that the sense of pain Judy feels and hopes to share with people comes from an ever- shrinking self (small s). She has been imprisoned in it for so long that she has really come to believe that it is who she is. Unlike some here, she really hasn't ever had strong experiences that just blow her out of her socks and out of her self long enough to realize that it's an illusion. So when someone challenges the ideas she has about her self, the self reacts angrily, and out of a sense of survival. It's like watching a psychic fight-or-flight response, in this case almost always spoiling for a fight. The solution is something that, sadly, none of us can provide her with -- a transcendental or near- transcendental experience so strong that she exper- iences and *feels* how illusory her ideas of self are, how illusory her beliefs are, how manufactured are her truths. Without that subjective experience, there's really very little possibility of her self releasing control and allowing the human being who lives inside to shine forth. Compounding the problem is the fact that, unlike many if not most of the people here, Judy has never been a teacher. Those who have know all too well the liberating effect of having to put one's ego and self on the shelf, in the interest of another. Yeah, you'd like to stand up there in front of a group of people and say shit that glorifies your own ego and gets them to compliment you and say how brilliant you are. But it's just not fuckin' *appropriate*, man. Your position there in front of the class is to *help* people, to possibly convey enough experience and information to them to assist them in their own self realization. This is a process that wears *away* the self, as opposed to reinforcing its hold on us. Judy has never had that experience. As far as I can tell, her gratification and sense of satisfaction in life has always come from one thing and one thing only -- winning arguments. She posts links here to her Great Slams Of The Past, asking people to go read how she devastated some opponent with her brilliance years or decades ago. I ask you...if that's not sad, and deserving of compassion, what is? Is there *nothing* in her present that she can see and point to with a similar sense of pride or accomplishment? I'm sorry to perpetuate this whole mess by comment- ing again, but really the time felt right to do so. I've been avoiding her -- I do not read her posts, except as quoted by other posters whose posts I do read, and I do not reply to anything she says to me or about me. It's the only thing I can think of to do. I feel sad for her, and for whatever circumstances made her this unhappy, after a life- time of meditation, but really IT'S JUST NOT MY FUCKIN' PROBLEM. I wish her well at becoming a human being, but after all these years with no change whatsoever, I'm not gonna hold my breath, and I'm certainly not going to compound things by responding to her and giving her sad ego the fuel it needs to perpetuate the stranglehold it has on her. Good insight- Thanks. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hi from Curtis
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Google Groups tell us that your exchanges with Curtis happened between February 1997 and November 1997. THAT'S ALMOST 10 FUCKING YEARS AGO!!! Actually I was I who told you when those exchanges took place, before Curtis ever showed up here, in response to a request from Sal. I even provided a URL for one of the threads. Did you think you had made some kind of revelatory discovery, Shemp? Maybe the poor bastard is a different person? Maybe he's changed (assuming that he was this horrible person that you paint him out as being)? What an astonishing comment given the exchanges between Curtis and me here. I don't know whether he's a horrible person. All I know of him are his posts. For all I know he's a saint except when he gets into a challenging exchange on an electronic forum. Why in heaven's name can't you give it up, Judy? Why can't *I* give it up?? Another mindboggler. As I've already pointed out to you, I had been *discouraging* Curtis from digging it all up again, but he insisted. Do you not see your obsessive post (below) as being a tad bit kooky? You mean, the post in which I was responding to Curtis's request that I explain why I didn't respond positively to his compliment post? Look at the very first quoted line below: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: I still would like to know what upset you about my post. Now go take your medication, Shemp. I wasn't upset by it, Curtis. Mildly disappointed, but not surprised, that you hadn't changed, as I said to start with. OK, Curtis, let's go over it again. Let's see whether you can actually address what I've already said. I'm betting you won't: My meta comment on my feelings about the value of our previous postings was meant as a positive . Rick had it right. Note that what Rick said was that he thought you had paid me a compliment. You say he had it right. Sorry, but I don't buy it. If you're interested in knowing why, I'll tell you, but I suspect you're not. I was surprised when you reacted so strongly to my message. It was not meant to offend you, quite the opposite. Here's what you wrote: Nice to hear from you Judy. I look back on the AMT days as an important experience for me. There were times when I felt misunderstood and very frustrated, but that stressful dynamic was the reason I kept at it so long. It was incredibly useful for me to articulate my thoughts about the movement in such detail, and it never would have happened without me being so pissed off at your messages. Please explain the basis on which you believe I should have taken this as a sincere compliment. You didn't respond. If it's so obvious that it was a compliment, as Rick said and you confirmed, why couldn't you just explain what the compliment was? Perhaps this version will make more sense: The reason I kept posting was because of you. Posting was a good thing for me. Got it? So where's the compliment? How is that some kind of attempt at reconciliation, as Shemp claims? (You said this over and over again back on alt.m.t, of course, so there's nothing new here.) Next, let's restore what I was responding to that you go on to quote: I thought you could relate to what I was saying. It must have been frustrating for you on AMT too, but I assumed you are happy you got your points across in the end. Does what you wrote that I quoted above describe my having gotten my points across? No. But if you had related to what I wrote in the way I expected, you might have thought Yes I got my points across also, even though the discussions were difficult. That was my expectation in writing it. That it would piss you off never crossed my mind. Why on *earth* should I have thought you were suggesting I got my points across? For that matter, why on earth should I imagine on the basis of our alt.m.t exchanges that I got my points across? The exact opposite was the case. My problem with you, Curtis, was (and is) your gross intellectual (and even factual) dishonesty. With people like you, it's never entirely clear whether they're *intending* to mislead and deceive, or whether they've done such a snow job on themselves that they genuinely believe their own misrepresentations. So I'll have to give you the benefit of the doubt on that point. Excellent example of why it was so hard to continue posting on AMT. Ah, so it wasn't hard because I was getting my points across. It was hard because my posts were pissing you off. Of course, on alt.m.t, I didn't start calling you on
[FairfieldLife] Re: Democracy Has Failed
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam jpgillam@ wrote: --- Gillam wrote: he was more interested in truth as he saw it than in converting someone else. Surely you can see how the two can coexist. This last sentence doesn't make sense. It should be, Surely you can appreciate the difference. Thanks. I liked the first version better. :-) And the reason I liked it better is that my life experiences have shown me that the word truth is basically an illusion, a name we put on our current state of attention and point of view. I honestly don't believe that there is such a thing as Truth with a capital T. In my earlier post, I wasn't really talking about the letter from Iran's President per se, but about the nature of spiritual conversations, and what you said about LBS. The point I was trying to make is that arguing for your position is great if you only have one position. But I'm capable of holding multiple positions on the same subject at once, each one of them approp- riate to a particular state of attention. Because I've *had* to (I worked with a teacher who, however he managed to do it, could just blow your small-s self right out of its socks, over and over and over, as quickly as you can snap your fingers. So you'd be sitting there in one state of attention, convinced you know the truth about the thing being discussed, and then snap! you'd move into another state of attention in which there was a completely different truth. And then snap! he'd do it again, and again, and again, until after five minutes you'd have seen and experienced ten or twelve different states of attention, and ten or twelve different truths. So now...which one of them is Truth? The only sense I've been able to make of the whole experience is that all of them are, *from the state of attention for which they represent truth*. From another, they are not. I readily admit that in some conversations there is an aspect of factual truth that can be main- tained and argued about. But in spiritual dis- cussions, to me truth is and will always be relative. Two people can be presenting completely opposite points of view on a subject and *both* of them are correct. That's why I brought up the example of the other discussion group I'm a part of sometimes where almost all of the participants feel this way, and no one argues and tries to sell his or her particular flavor of truth. They just present their point of view, and then the next person presents theirs, and no one tries to say that one is better or more correct or more true than another. I find it refreshing. In the case of this particular letter, I agree with you that the US would be better served by listening to what the President of Iran is saying, and trying to figure out who they're really dealing with, instead of imagining it based on their prejudices. And if they disagree with him on some points (which of course they would), they could reply presenting their version of things, their truth. In an ideal world, they could do this without trying to paint him as a bad guy or a liar because they disagree on these points; he could present his point of view and they could present theirs, and allow the lurkers to choose which they preferred. But we know that ain't gonna happen. International affairs are all too often like FFL; some people feel compelled *to* sell their point of view as the best or the most true, and compelled at the same time to paint anyone who doesn't agree with that point of view as a bad guy, or a liar, or stupid, or whatever. The sad reality is that the US won't even go as far as to *listen* to what this guy says. They'll just start painting him as a bad guy without even reading it. But the point I tried to make yester- day was really oriented more to spiritual discus- sion groups like this one, where I think -- or hope -- that we have more flexibility, and can discuss things on a different level. Good stuff. Thanks. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hi from Curtis
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Judy: What's the statute of limitations on WHO GIVES A FUCK? That was 10 years ago, woman! Give it up. Shemp: I was responding to this *from Curtis*: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: I still would like to know what upset you about my post. And this after I had advised him strongly that he might want to leave it alone. Belatedly, he's decided to follow both my advice and yours, having gotten a taste of what I had been suggesting he might not want to get into. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jerry Jarvis
on 5/11/06 1:54 AM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Having Jerry be a participant here would actually lend credibility to my admittedly delusionary fantasy. Probably not, because he's persona non grata in the TMO. Do you know the reason(s) why he is persona non grata? My understanding is that MMY gave him the boot because he was becoming too independent in his thinking. For instance, critical of the TM-Sidhi program, had his own ideas about how the NJ court case should be handled, etc. Also, he had a lot of charisma. MMY always found that threatening. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hi from Curtis
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: snip I continued through all the you are a liar barrage last time because I wanted to get my thoughts out. This time I do not have that motivation. I am just enjoying hearing from old friends, especially since many were perplexed about me leaving TM after being so into it for so long. Thanks again. Good to hear from you. I agree wholeheartedly with Shemp. There is only one sane response -- DO NOT RESPOND. Me, several days ago: Curtis, I've been restraining myself. I have a whole lot to say about our previous encounters, and you might think about whether you really want to set me off. Curtis, disregarding my advisory: So if you want to tell me why you reacted to my post like that I would like to hear it. And then after I'd told him: I still would like to know what upset you about my post. This forum is catnip for Curtis, a place where folks practically beg to have the wool pulled over their eyes, very much unlike alt.m.t. And he's taken full advantage of the opportunity, with considerable success. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Health-Faucet vs. Toilet-Paper....????
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is another very very long article with the Link, http://www.fourthnight.org/April2006.htm April 4, 2006 The Case Against Toilet Paper snip Dude, I am curious about something. You post to FFL with regularity your observations and stories about defecation, sexual aberration and abuse, and the like. However when I read the Yahoo forum Maharishi_Mahesh_Yogi your posts are considerably more civilized. Why is that? Why not post the same crap (no pun intended) to both forums? What would the folks think over at the Maharishi_Mahesh_Yogi forum, if you began a post with Hari Om, and then proceeded to post a lengthy article on toilet habits? Just curious, Dude, because I for one find your stuff here indicative of a pretty low level of awareness (no pun intended)... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Democracy Has Failed
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip This has led to some maddening exchanges here. Someone would be taking Rory Goff to task, for instance, about some claim he made about Brahman consciousness, and Rory would respond with, Yeah, what you say is true, too. It's the Jaimini thing that Tom Traynor champions. Is what Jaimini said true? ;-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Girlfriends Galore for MMY, eh?-
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Girlfriends Galore for MMY, eh?- on 5/11/06 4:56 AM, Jason Spock at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If this is true, then it's sad. A seer who renounced everything should never initiate relationships. there are some in the Sexy Sadie file. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hi from Curtis
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_astute_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip She's lost yet another imagined bet. But what an actice imagination! Thats the power of TM. Actually, I won the bet. I bet that Curtis, having ignored my suggestion that he didn't really want to get me started, would turn tail and run once he had done so. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hi from Curtis
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip The solution is something that, sadly, none of us can provide her with -- a transcendental or near- transcendental experience so strong that she exper- iences and *feels* how illusory her ideas of self are, how illusory her beliefs are, how manufactured are her truths. Without that subjective experience, there's really very little possibility of her self releasing control and allowing the human being who lives inside to shine forth. Curtis, a few posts back: I did have great experiences with the program. For me it was the interpretation of what those experiences and states of mind means that changed for me. I came to think that Maharishi's description of what those experiences mean epistemologically was flawedI can relate to the experiences of people in the movement and their attraction, but I do not value the experiences in my own life the same way. I know that mystical experience is not just made up. It is powerful and compelling. But what does it mean? Answering that is something we all have to do for ourselves I guess. Be interesting to see a dialogue between Curtis and Barry on this point. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Health-Faucet vs. Toilet-Paper....????
Sorry Pal. Horses for courses. This forum FFL is overcrowded with too many posts. I just can't put my best here. I don't know how many people would read it. By the way, this is a serious topic about Hygiene. You don't seem to see the seriousness of it.?? It's not my fault, the whole thing was started by Peter Stuphen and Llundrub. Both gave smart-ass replies to my first post which pissed me off, and Off_World and a few other guys gave me a real bloody nose and I decided this is some kind of Quasi-forum. jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 14:20:30 -Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Health-Faucet vs. Toilet-PaperDude, I am curious about something. You post to FFL with regularity your observations and stories about defecation, sexual aberration and abuse, and the like. However when I read the Yahoo forum Maharishi_Mahesh_Yogi your postsare considerably more civilized. Why is that? Why not post the same crap (no pun intended) to both forums? What would the folks think over at the Maharishi_Mahesh_Yogi forum, if you began a post with Hari Om, and then proceeded to post a lengthy article on toilet habits?Just curious, Dude, because I for one find your stuff here indicative of a pretty low level of awareness (no pun intended)... How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messengers low PC-to-Phone call rates. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Happy Birthday Gullible Fool
Title: Happy Birthday Gullible Fool Today is GFs birthday. See if you can get him to fall for a tall tale. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Health-Faucet vs. Toilet-Paper....????
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snipIt's not my fault...snip Got it. jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 14:20:30 - Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Health-Faucet vs. Toilet-Paper Dude, I am curious about something. You post to FFL with regularity your observations and stories about defecation, sexual aberration and abuse, and the like. However when I read the Yahoo forum Maharishi_Mahesh_Yogi your posts are considerably more civilized. Why is that? Why not post the same crap (no pun intended) to both forums? What would the folks think over at the Maharishi_Mahesh_Yogi forum, if you began a post with Hari Om, and then proceeded to post a lengthy article on toilet habits? Just curious, Dude, because I for one find your stuff here indicative of a pretty low level of awareness (no pun intended)... - How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Health-Faucet vs. Toilet-Paper....????
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock jedi_spock@ wrote: Here is another very very long article with the Link, http://www.fourthnight.org/April2006.htm April 4, 2006 The Case Against Toilet Paper snip Dude, I am curious about something. You post to FFL with regularity your observations and stories about defecation, sexual aberration and abuse, and the like. However when I read the Yahoo forum Maharishi_Mahesh_Yogi your posts are considerably more civilized. Why is that? Why not post the same crap (no pun intended) to both forums? What would the folks think over at the Maharishi_Mahesh_Yogi forum, if you began a post with Hari Om, and then proceeded to post a lengthy article on toilet habits? Jim Do you behave the same in all situations? Aren't you different with your best male buds than when visiting your grandmother or in church (or wherever?). When you first start dating you're on your best behavior, after you're pretty comfortable the farting starts (not that I've ever done that). Cut this guy some slack for adapting to the rules of the room. Just curious, Dude, because I for one find your stuff here indicative of a pretty low level of awareness (no pun intended)... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hi from Curtis
My take on it is that Judy loves a good fight. It makes her feel alive or something. Since Barry isn't playing along much lately, Curtis' debut got her salivating. But he was so darned nice and polite. Has he been castrated? What's his problem? Anyway, she's been trying unsuccessfully to goad him into an argument. on 5/11/06 7:37 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_astute_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: Google Groups tell us that your exchanges with Curtis happened between February 1997 and November 1997. THAT'S ALMOST 10 FUCKING YEARS AGO!!! Maybe the poor bastard is a different person? Maybe he's changed (assuming that he was this horrible person that you paint him out as being)? Why in heaven's name can't you give it up, Judy? Do you not see your obsessive post (below) as being a tad bit kooky? A tad bit kooky? How about way kooky and so typical we've all grown used to it, but watch anyway, like people rubbernecking at a car accident? More like a fine whine that grows more bitter with age. I'm sure the cognitive dissonance is wearing on her, defending something long dead, as this latest obsessive rant from Ms. Stein shows. Can't transcend these deep attachments. I feel her pain. I honestly think that's the whole point. She's in pain, and wants other people to feel it and share it. I am commenting with (I hope) some sense of compassion, because this latest escapade is so transparent that I think almost everyone here sees it for what it is. In all honesty, I think that the sense of pain Judy feels and hopes to share with people comes from an ever- shrinking self (small s). She has been imprisoned in it for so long that she has really come to believe that it is who she is. Unlike some here, she really hasn't ever had strong experiences that just blow her out of her socks and out of her self long enough to realize that it's an illusion. So when someone challenges the ideas she has about her self, the self reacts angrily, and out of a sense of survival. It's like watching a psychic fight-or-flight response, in this case almost always spoiling for a fight. The solution is something that, sadly, none of us can provide her with -- a transcendental or near- transcendental experience so strong that she exper- iences and *feels* how illusory her ideas of self are, how illusory her beliefs are, how manufactured are her truths. Without that subjective experience, there's really very little possibility of her self releasing control and allowing the human being who lives inside to shine forth. Compounding the problem is the fact that, unlike many if not most of the people here, Judy has never been a teacher. Those who have know all too well the liberating effect of having to put one's ego and self on the shelf, in the interest of another. Yeah, you'd like to stand up there in front of a group of people and say shit that glorifies your own ego and gets them to compliment you and say how brilliant you are. But it's just not fuckin' *appropriate*, man. Your position there in front of the class is to *help* people, to possibly convey enough experience and information to them to assist them in their own self realization. This is a process that wears *away* the self, as opposed to reinforcing its hold on us. Judy has never had that experience. As far as I can tell, her gratification and sense of satisfaction in life has always come from one thing and one thing only -- winning arguments. She posts links here to her Great Slams Of The Past, asking people to go read how she devastated some opponent with her brilliance years or decades ago. I ask you...if that's not sad, and deserving of compassion, what is? Is there *nothing* in her present that she can see and point to with a similar sense of pride or accomplishment? I'm sorry to perpetuate this whole mess by comment- ing again, but really the time felt right to do so. I've been avoiding her -- I do not read her posts, except as quoted by other posters whose posts I do read, and I do not reply to anything she says to me or about me. It's the only thing I can think of to do. I feel sad for her, and for whatever circumstances made her this unhappy, after a life- time of meditation, but really IT'S JUST NOT MY FUCKIN' PROBLEM. I wish her well at becoming a human being, but after all these years with no change whatsoever, I'm not gonna hold my breath, and I'm certainly not going to compound things by responding to her and giving her sad ego the fuel it needs to perpetuate the stranglehold it has on her. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To subscribe, send a message to:
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jerry Jarvis
--- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 5/11/06 1:54 AM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Having Jerry be a participant here would actually lend credibility to my admittedly delusionary fantasy. Probably not, because he's persona non grata in the TMO. Do you know the reason(s) why he is persona non grata? My understanding is that MMY gave him the boot because he was becoming too independent in his thinking. For instance, critical of the TM-Sidhi program, had his own ideas about how the NJ court case should be handled, etc. Also, he had a lot of charisma. MMY always found that threatening. Yeah, Jerry had the bizarre idea that the TMO should actually pay the attorneys the agreed upon fee for their services. What a strange concept, actually honoring the agreements you make with other people! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Everything you need is one�click away.� Make Yahoo! your home page�now. http://us.click.yahoo.com/AHchtC/4FxNAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jerry Jarvis
--- markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer fairfieldlife@ wrote: Having Jerry be a participant here would actually lend credibility to my admittedly delusionary fantasy. Probably not, because he's persona non grata in the TMO. Do you know the reason(s) why he is persona non grata? Rick can give the various incidents that may be involved, but I think the real underlying reason is that he functioned from a place of heart and common sense, and people like that were increasingly not wanted in leadership positions. He had mucho devotion to MMY, but came out of the early generation of mov't leaders who did not function as yes men and who had an aversion to acting like nazis. Concepts around devotion to MMY and purity of the teaching began having a much different interpretation around the time Jerry and his cronies were being phased out and the younger generation of Bevan and his clones were coming in. I hate to get political but it reminds me of the current situation in the repub. party, where almost every day now you have a traditional conservative coming out or publishing a book expressing how odd they feel in the new repub. party that has nothing to do with traditional conservative values, like small gov't, balanced budgets, gov't out of the morality game, competent defense, etc., and all that matters with the new repubs. is demonstrating loyalty to Bush and somehow making money off the gov't via your connections. Some really solid conseratives are talking about an authoritarian cult of personality around Bush that's become the central theme of the party, that has them bewildered. I think the TMO went through a similar change in the late 70s that left the old timers a little bewildered. Yes, the devas left and the demons took over. Nasty place now! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get to your groups with one click. Know instantly when new email arrives http://us.click.yahoo.com/.7bhrC/MGxNAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Girlfriends Galore for MMY, eh?-
--- lurkernomore wrote: --- shempmcgurk wrote: Gloria Steinem says that a man is allowed one free grope Man, a solid two chuckle morning. This is good. Next time I see Gloria I'm going to take her up on that free grope. That's very generous of her. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hi from Curtis
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's the statute of limitations on WHO GIVES A FUCK? That was 10 years ago, woman! Give it up. Dude! Thanks for making me laugh out loud! Me, several days ago: Curtis, I've been restraining myself. I have a whole lot to say about our previous encounters, and you might think about whether you really want to set me off. Curtis, disregarding my advisory: So if you want to tell me why you reacted to my post like that I would like to hear it. And then after I'd told him: I still would like to know what upset you about my post. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hi from Curtis
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Judy has the sutra, Tenacity of a flea. Admirable in one context, not so in another. Oh, heck, one more time: Me, several days ago: Curtis, I've been restraining myself. I have a whole lot to say about our previous encounters, and you might think about whether you really want to set me off. Curtis, disregarding my advisory: So if you want to tell me why you reacted to my post like that I would like to hear it. And then after I'd told him: I still would like to know what upset you about my post. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Health-Faucet vs. Toilet-Paper....????
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonyff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock jedi_spock@ wrote: Here is another very very long article with the Link, http://www.fourthnight.org/April2006.htm April 4, 2006 The Case Against Toilet Paper snip Dude, I am curious about something. You post to FFL with regularity your observations and stories about defecation, sexual aberration and abuse, and the like. However when I read the Yahoo forum Maharishi_Mahesh_Yogi your posts are considerably more civilized. Why is that? Why not post the same crap (no pun intended) to both forums? What would the folks think over at the Maharishi_Mahesh_Yogi forum, if you began a post with Hari Om, and then proceeded to post a lengthy article on toilet habits? Jim Do you behave the same in all situations? Aren't you different with your best male buds than when visiting your grandmother or in church (or wherever?). When you first start dating you're on your best behavior, after you're pretty comfortable the farting starts (not that I've ever done that). Cut this guy some slack for adapting to the rules of the room. I found some of his stuff needlessly shocking and offensive, so I asked him about it. He says its not his fault and that satisfies the question for me. Just curious, Dude, because I for one find your stuff here indicative of a pretty low level of awareness (no pun intended)... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hi from Curtis
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My take on it is that Judy loves a good fight. It makes her feel alive or something. Since Barry isn't playing along much lately, Curtis' debut got her salivating. But he was so darned nice and polite. Has he been castrated? What's his problem? Anyway, she's been trying unsuccessfully to goad him into an argument. I think I'll just keep posting this as long as the up-is-down meme that I'm the one who has been goading Curtis into an argument keeps appearing. Me, several days ago: Curtis, I've been restraining myself. I have a whole lot to say about our previous encounters, and you might think about whether you really want to set me off. Curtis, disregarding my advisory: So if you want to tell me why you reacted to my post like that I would like to hear it. And then after I'd told him: I still would like to know what upset you about my post. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Icebergs
If all you see is the tip of the iceberg, and you aren't willing to dive in and examine what's underneath the tip, you really aren't in a position to render judgments about how big it is, what its shape is, or what kind of ice it's made of. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] FW: Judy Stein
Title: FW: Judy Stein From a long-time lurker who occasionally posts anonymously: Wow Rick. This encounter with Curtis is scaring me. What is wrong with this woman? She really has changed the flavor of FFL. -- End of Forwarded Message To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: Judy Stein
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From a long-time lurker who occasionally posts anonymously: Wow Rick. This encounter with Curtis is scaring me. What is wrong with this woman? She really has changed the flavor of FFL. -- End of Forwarded Message Amazing. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Rick's inquiry
But he was so darned nice and polite. Has he been castrated? Usually when the subject of how my balls are doing comes up I just laugh nervously and slide my beer further down the bar... But I trust you enough to report that they are intact and doing fine. I was remembering the concept of losing one's energy the other day and figured out that if that were true, I would be in a coma by now! Back in the day I felt I had a contribution to the knowledge pool of my personal experience of how I went from TM-guy to non-meditator. These days I figure you guys have read all the same stuff I found so compelling, and it didn't move you as it did me. Knowledge is so personal that way. Although I may represent the extreme of the continuum of disbelief in this group, (I am just guessing), we share more insights on the movement than I'll bet we disagree about. The intellectual freedom expressed here is refreshing. I don't have an agenda to challenge anyone's spiritual beliefs here. I am enjoying hearing what you guys are saying about your relationship with the knowledge after all these years. Thanks for letting me hang with you guys. (brief handshake and appropriate male half-hug made slightly briefer by the recent mention of my ball sack) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My take on it is that Judy loves a good fight. It makes her feel alive or something. Since Barry isn't playing along much lately, Curtis' debut got her salivating. But he was so darned nice and polite. Has he been castrated? What's his problem? Anyway, she's been trying unsuccessfully to goad him into an argument. on 5/11/06 7:37 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_astute_ff no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: Google Groups tell us that your exchanges with Curtis happened between February 1997 and November 1997. THAT'S ALMOST 10 FUCKING YEARS AGO!!! Maybe the poor bastard is a different person? Maybe he's changed (assuming that he was this horrible person that you paint him out as being)? Why in heaven's name can't you give it up, Judy? Do you not see your obsessive post (below) as being a tad bit kooky? A tad bit kooky? How about way kooky and so typical we've all grown used to it, but watch anyway, like people rubbernecking at a car accident? More like a fine whine that grows more bitter with age. I'm sure the cognitive dissonance is wearing on her, defending something long dead, as this latest obsessive rant from Ms. Stein shows. Can't transcend these deep attachments. I feel her pain. I honestly think that's the whole point. She's in pain, and wants other people to feel it and share it. I am commenting with (I hope) some sense of compassion, because this latest escapade is so transparent that I think almost everyone here sees it for what it is. In all honesty, I think that the sense of pain Judy feels and hopes to share with people comes from an ever- shrinking self (small s). She has been imprisoned in it for so long that she has really come to believe that it is who she is. Unlike some here, she really hasn't ever had strong experiences that just blow her out of her socks and out of her self long enough to realize that it's an illusion. So when someone challenges the ideas she has about her self, the self reacts angrily, and out of a sense of survival. It's like watching a psychic fight-or-flight response, in this case almost always spoiling for a fight. The solution is something that, sadly, none of us can provide her with -- a transcendental or near- transcendental experience so strong that she exper- iences and *feels* how illusory her ideas of self are, how illusory her beliefs are, how manufactured are her truths. Without that subjective experience, there's really very little possibility of her self releasing control and allowing the human being who lives inside to shine forth. Compounding the problem is the fact that, unlike many if not most of the people here, Judy has never been a teacher. Those who have know all too well the liberating effect of having to put one's ego and self on the shelf, in the interest of another. Yeah, you'd like to stand up there in front of a group of people and say shit that glorifies your own ego and gets them to compliment you and say how brilliant you are. But it's just not fuckin' *appropriate*, man. Your position there in front of the class is to *help* people, to possibly convey enough experience and information to them to assist them in their own self realization. This is a process that wears *away* the self, as opposed to reinforcing its hold on us. Judy has never had that experience. As far as I can tell, her gratification and sense of satisfaction in life has
[FairfieldLife] Re: Andy Garcia's Cuba movie
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Having lived in south florida for 13 years and having gone to graduate school with many second generation Cubans who fled Fidel's revolution and having professors who taught in cuba before and after the revolution I have learned quite a bit about Che and Fidel and their revolution. I am in full agreement with Mr. Fontova. Fidel ruined that country. So The Pre-Castro Cuba was something worth keeping? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hi from Curtis
Shemp (taking inspiration from Curtis' backing out the door, smiling episode): Yes, Judy (Shemp picking up a Colt .45), you're absolutely right, Judy (Shemp loading all six chambers), please forgive me my trespasses, Judy (Shemp putting barrel of gun to his head), you're a wonderful perfect person, Judy (Shemp squeezes trigger and puts himself out of misery). --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: snip I continued through all the you are a liar barrage last time because I wanted to get my thoughts out. This time I do not have that motivation. I am just enjoying hearing from old friends, especially since many were perplexed about me leaving TM after being so into it for so long. Thanks again. Good to hear from you. I agree wholeheartedly with Shemp. There is only one sane response -- DO NOT RESPOND. Me, several days ago: Curtis, I've been restraining myself. I have a whole lot to say about our previous encounters, and you might think about whether you really want to set me off. Curtis, disregarding my advisory: So if you want to tell me why you reacted to my post like that I would like to hear it. And then after I'd told him: I still would like to know what upset you about my post. This forum is catnip for Curtis, a place where folks practically beg to have the wool pulled over their eyes, very much unlike alt.m.t. And he's taken full advantage of the opportunity, with considerable success. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hi from Curtis
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sundur@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Good to hear from you. I agree wholeheartedly with Shemp. There is only one sane response -- DO NOT RESPOND. Do a Nancy Reagan, Just say. Me, several days ago: Curtis, I've been restraining myself. I have a whole lot to say about our previous encounters, and you might think about whether you really want to set me off. Curtis, disregarding my advisory: So if you want to tell me why you reacted to my post like that I would like to hear it. And then after I'd told him: I still would like to know what upset you about my post. Okay, so Curtis forgot to add ...in 3,000 words or less Could you please stop torturing him (and the rest of us) because of his mistake? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hi from Curtis
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_astute_ff no_reply@ wrote: snip She's lost yet another imagined bet. But what an actice imagination! Thats the power of TM. Actually, I won the bet. I bet that Curtis, having ignored my suggestion that he didn't really want to get me started, would turn tail and run once he had done so. Uh, Judy? (as the men in white coats quietly enter the room) Hate to break this to you but, see, in order for there to be an actual bet there has to be two different people that actually agree to be the two opposing parties to the bet (the men in white coats get out a shirt with really long arms). Writing I bet Curtis does or doesn't do this or that thing unilaterally on this forum doesn't actually constitute a bet (as men with white coats fit our subject into shirt with really long arms and the sound of velcro is heard). To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hi from Curtis
Shemp, why do you have such a hard-on for Judy? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_astute_ff no_reply@ wrote: snip She's lost yet another imagined bet. But what an actice imagination! Thats the power of TM. Actually, I won the bet. I bet that Curtis, having ignored my suggestion that he didn't really want to get me started, would turn tail and run once he had done so. Uh, Judy? (as the men in white coats quietly enter the room) Hate to break this to you but, see, in order for there to be an actual bet there has to be two different people that actually agree to be the two opposing parties to the bet (the men in white coats get out a shirt with really long arms). Writing I bet Curtis does or doesn't do this or that thing unilaterally on this forum doesn't actually constitute a bet (as men with white coats fit our subject into shirt with really long arms and the sound of velcro is heard). To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Icebergs
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If all you see is the tip of the iceberg, and you aren't willing to dive in and examine what's underneath the tip, you really aren't in a position to render judgments about how big it is, what its shape is, or what kind of ice it's made of. Judy Stein = Iceberg The rest of the Free World = HMS Titanic To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hi from Curtis
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer fairfieldlife@ wrote: My take on it is that Judy loves a good fight. It makes her feel alive or something. Since Barry isn't playing along much lately, Curtis' debut got her salivating. But he was so darned nice and polite. Has he been castrated? What's his problem? Anyway, she's been trying unsuccessfully to goad him into an argument. I think I'll just keep posting this as long as the up-is-down meme that I'm the one who has been goading Curtis into an argument keeps appearing. Me, several days ago: Curtis, I've been restraining myself. I have a whole lot to say about our previous encounters, and you might think about whether you really want to set me off. Curtis, disregarding my advisory: So if you want to tell me why you reacted to my post like that I would like to hear it. And then after I'd told him: I still would like to know what upset you about my post. Judy must have just finished reading the book Win Friends and Influence People. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rick's inquiry
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But he was so darned nice and polite. Has he been castrated? Usually when the subject of how my balls are doing comes up I just laugh nervously and slide my beer further down the bar... But I trust you enough to report that they are intact and doing fine. I was remembering the concept of losing one's energy the other day and figured out that if that were true, I would be in a coma by now! Back in the day I felt I had a contribution to the knowledge pool of my personal experience of how I went from TM-guy to non-meditator. These days I figure you guys have read all the same stuff I found so compelling, and it didn't move you as it did me. Knowledge is so personal that way. Although I may represent the extreme of the continuum of disbelief in this group, (I am just guessing), we share more insights on the movement than I'll bet we disagree about. The intellectual freedom expressed here is refreshing. I don't have an agenda to challenge anyone's spiritual beliefs here. I am enjoying hearing what you guys are saying about your relationship with the knowledge after all these years. Thanks for letting me hang with you guys. (brief handshake and appropriate male half-hug made slightly briefer by the recent mention of my ball sack) [From The Fisher King 1991] Parry (played by Robin Williams): You care! First the money, now this. That's so sweet. Oh, you fabulous guy, you...! Jack (played by Jeff Bridges): Don't hug me in public again. Parry: Men with men. Oh, Jack! I love this guy! You hear me? I love this guy! Oh, you hear me, jaded city? Jack: Will you shut up? Parry: I love Jack! He cares. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hi from Curtis
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_astute_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shemp, why do you have such a hard-on for Judy? She once emailed me her photo. If you'd have received that photo, you'd have a hard-on, too! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_astute_ff no_reply@ wrote: snip She's lost yet another imagined bet. But what an actice imagination! Thats the power of TM. Actually, I won the bet. I bet that Curtis, having ignored my suggestion that he didn't really want to get me started, would turn tail and run once he had done so. Uh, Judy? (as the men in white coats quietly enter the room) Hate to break this to you but, see, in order for there to be an actual bet there has to be two different people that actually agree to be the two opposing parties to the bet (the men in white coats get out a shirt with really long arms). Writing I bet Curtis does or doesn't do this or that thing unilaterally on this forum doesn't actually constitute a bet (as men with white coats fit our subject into shirt with really long arms and the sound of velcro is heard). To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jerry Jarvis
In a message dated 5/11/06 10:10:32 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yeah, Jerry had the bizarre idea that the TMO shouldactually pay the attorneys the agreed upon fee fortheir services. What a strange concept, actuallyhonoring the agreements you make with other people! Huh? I'm sure there is a juicy story here! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jerry Jarvis
Rick knows more about this, but when the TMO lost the NJ case he told National not to pay the attorneys. I guess that's how its done in the third world countries. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 5/11/06 10:10:32 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yeah, Jerry had the bizarre idea that the TMO should actually pay the attorneys the agreed upon fee for their services. What a strange concept, actually honoring the agreements you make with other people! Huh? I'm sure there is a juicy story here! __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] FW: Judy Stein
Yes. The AMT virus has struck the poor, antibodiless citizens of FFL. --- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From a long-time lurker who occasionally posts anonymously: Wow Rick. This encounter with Curtis is scaring me. What is wrong with this woman? She really has changed the flavor of FFL. -- End of Forwarded Message __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] For Sal
I have absolutely no idea whether the following allegations are founded or unfounded, Sal, but judge for yourself whether they have more or less credibility than, say, the allegations against Clarence Thomas (who, by the way, was never accused by Anita Hill of ever actually being TOUCHED by Thomas). As I've said before: I am a great admirer of Clinton's (as I am of MMY) but that doesn't mean I stick my head in the sand. -- Don't Let 'Moderate' Hillary Fool You by Kathleen Willey, Candice E. Jackson, and Juanita Broaddrick Posted May 11, 2006 Text Size: S M L printer-friendly email to a friend respond to this article Can Bush Come Back? CIA Choice is Savvy Politics Bye-Bye, 'Culture of Corruption' Republicans on the Defensive Hillary Clinton weighed in on the immigration reform debate recently by accusing the House Republicans of passing a bill that would criminalize the Good Samaritan and probably even Jesus himself. Hillary also opined that the House bill flew in the face of Republicans' stated support for faith and values. Buy Now Save 13% Hillary eagerly pounces on her political opponents' supposed betrayal of their values, but what about her values? Far from walking in the footsteps of the Good Samaritan or Jesus himself, Hillary has consistently revealed a personal and political character the core values of which are ruthlessness, unbounding arrogance and endless ambition. One of us had the surreal experience of being confronted by Hillary - - self-declared feminist and champion of women's rights -- as she protected her husband Bill against the charge of rape. Another of us worked with the Clintons prior to being sexually assaulted by Bill Clinton, and witnessed her dismissive, contemptuous interactions with others whenever the cameras weren't present. Our experience of Hillary Clinton as ruthless and vindictive is validated in a newly released book, I've Always Been a Yankees Fan: Hillary Clinton in Her Own Words, by Tom Kuiper. I've Always Been a Yankees Fan is a collection of quotes -- hundreds of them -- by and about Hillary Clinton, spanning her entire life and career, complete with pictures, captions and humorous but spot-on commentary. The quotes show a crass, insensitive side of Hillary, and in the foreword Dick Morris writes of this wonderful little book that No politician could possibly amass quotes like this and expect to run for office. Nobody would dare. Hillary Clinton, however, possesses an extraordinary level of arrogance (even for a politician), and expects to claw her way back to the White House despite being called out for her despicable attitudes and statements. Our perception of Hillary, one shared by Tom Kuiper and Dick Morris, stands in stark contrast to the one touted by feminist legal scholar and author Susan Estrich. In her recent book, Estrich opines that Hillary can and should be elected the first female president. Estrich writes, I think that Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton, soon- to-be second-term senator from New York, centrist Democrat, strong on security, tough, moderate, family values, middle-aged, qualified, managed by Bill Clinton, is the next president of the United States. Moderate? Family values? Kuiper's new book goes a long way toward discrediting the version of Hillary Clinton that permitted her to launch her own political career, and on which she hopes to ascend to the presidency in 2008. For example, Kuiper quotes multi-millionaire Hillary opining that The unfettered free market has been the most radically disruptive force in American life in the last generation. It is difficult to discern any moderation in that statement. Or in this response by Hillary to a constituent who expressed concern over being forced into a government-run health-care plan: It's time to put the common good, the national interest, ahead of individuals. Or in this explanation to wealthy donors regarding her support for repealing the Bush tax cuts: Many of you are well enough off that [the] tax cuts may have helped you. We're saying that for America to get back on track, we're probably going to cut that short and not give it to you. We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. How about Hillary's supposed support for family values, which should include justice for abused women and children? I've Always Been a Yankees Fan presents Hillary publicly announcing, I am proud that my husband has stood up as president to confront the violence and to protect American women. But Kuiper also accurately recounts how Hillary privately revealed a complete lack of concern for protecting women against violence when she asked to meet Juanita Broaddrick just weeks after Juanita had been raped by Bill Clinton. Hillary was willing to do whatever it took to prevent Juanita from holding her husband accountable for an unspeakable act of violence.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hi from Curtis
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_astute_ff no_reply@ wrote: snip She's lost yet another imagined bet. But what an actice imagination! Thats the power of TM. Actually, I won the bet. I bet that Curtis, having ignored my suggestion that he didn't really want to get me started, would turn tail and run once he had done so. Uh, Judy? (as the men in white coats quietly enter the room) Hate to break this to you but, see, in order for there to be an actual bet there has to be two different people that actually agree to be the two opposing parties to the bet (the men in white coats get out a shirt with really long arms). Right. Cast your eyes upward, Shemp, and re-read what anon_astute wrote. Oh, never mind, I know that takes more effort than you can spare, so I'll copy it right here: She's lost yet another imagined bet. Now, carefully count five words in. Do you see the word imagined? Good. Do you know what it means? No? Why don't you try checking Mr. Dictionary? Done that? Good. Now: What's the difference, do you suppose, between an actual bet (your term) and an imagined bet (anon_astute's term)? (You may need to look up actual in Mr. Dictionary now. I'll wait.) Done that? Good. Remember, I was responding to anon_astute's comment. Therefore, the chances are excellent--overwhelmingly likely, in fact--that when I said I won the bet, I was referring to what anon_astute called, quite correctly, an imagined bet. Now do you see why it's so important to read what you're responding to, so you don't make an utter fool of yourself yet again? No? OK. Never mind... Now go take your medication, please. Writing I bet Curtis does or doesn't do this or that thing unilaterally on this forum doesn't actually constitute a bet (as men with white coats fit our subject into shirt with really long arms and the sound of velcro is heard). To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Jerry Jarvis
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rick knows more about this, but when the TMO lost the NJ case he told National not to pay the attorneys. I guess that's how its done in the third world countries. It's done that way here but only on contigency cases which are almost always liability cases, not constitutional issue ones like this. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 5/11/06 10:10:32 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yeah, Jerry had the bizarre idea that the TMO should actually pay the attorneys the agreed upon fee for their services. What a strange concept, actually honoring the agreements you make with other people! Huh? I'm sure there is a juicy story here! __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Icebergs
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: If all you see is the tip of the iceberg, and you aren't willing to dive in and examine what's underneath the tip, you really aren't in a position to render judgments about how big it is, what its shape is, or what kind of ice it's made of. Judy Stein = Iceberg The rest of the Free World = HMS Titanic Now, *that's* funny, Shemp. See how much more tuned-in you are when you take your medication? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hi from Curtis
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_astute_ff no_reply@ wrote: Shemp, why do you have such a hard-on for Judy? She once emailed me her photo. If you'd have received that photo, you'd have a hard-on, too! (Shemp neglects to add that the photo was taken about 45 years ago.) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Andy Garcia's Cuba movie
--- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Having lived in south florida for 13 years and having gone to graduate school with many second generation Cubans who fled Fidel's revolution and having professors who taught in cuba before and after the revolution I have learned quite a bit about Che and Fidel and their revolution. I am in full agreement with Mr. Fontova. Fidel ruined that country. So The Pre-Castro Cuba was something worth keeping? No, to some extent, but it went from the frying pan into the fire, so to speak. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Everything you need is one click away. Make Yahoo! your home page now. http://us.click.yahoo.com/AHchtC/4FxNAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: Judy Stein
--- Rick Archer wrote: From a long-time lurker who occasionally posts anonymously: Wow Rick. This encounter with Curtis is scaring me. What is wrong with this woman? She really has changed the flavor of FFL. I haven't read every post in this thread, but if I understand the ones I've read correctly, Curtis paid Judy rather a backhanded compliment by saying her posts motivated him to clarify his thinking on alt.m.t. some years ago. Judy didn't take it as a compliment, and when she asked him to explain how your posts pissed me off was supposed to be complimentary, Curtis declined to elaborate. >From there flowed the exchanges in which Judy invited Curtis to drop it or elaborate, either one, which Curtis also declined. Have I got that right? Because I don't see the problem. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jerry Jarvis
In a message dated 5/11/06 12:20:32 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rick knows more about this, but when the TMO lost the NJ case he told National not to pay the attorneys. I guess that's how its done in the third world countries.It's done that way here but only on contigency cases which are almost always liability cases, not constitutional issue ones like this. It really sounds more child like than anything else. Kind of like the person that takes their beloved dog to the vet to save it's life and the vet does everything in his power but the animal expires and the owner doesn't think he owes the vet anything because he didn't save its life. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: Judy Stein
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Rick Archer wrote: From a long-time lurker who occasionally posts anonymously: Wow Rick. This encounter with Curtis is scaring me. What is wrong with this woman? She really has changed the flavor of FFL. I haven't read every post in this thread, but if I understand the ones I've read correctly, Curtis paid Judy rather a backhanded compliment by saying her posts motivated him to clarify his thinking on alt.m.t. some years ago. Judy didn't take it as a compliment, and when she asked him to explain how your posts pissed me off was supposed to be complimentary, Curtis declined to elaborate. From there flowed the exchanges in which Judy invited Curtis to drop it or elaborate, either one, which Curtis also declined. Have I got that right? Because I don't see the problem. You've got the basic events right, but not the order thereof. Here's how it went (in bare-bones form): Curtis paid me the (very) backhanded compliment I made it clear I didn't take it as a compliment. Curtis said I was giving him too much credit for being (a) clever and (b) an asshole. He said he'd have more to say the next day. In response, I suggested that he really didn't want to get me started. The next day, Curtis (ignoring my advice) wanted to know why I hadn't taken his post as complimentary. I told him. Curtis (ignoring what I told him) asked again why I hadn't taken his post as complimentary. I asked him to explain what the compliment was. Curtis decided I had been right that he didn't want to get me started, and realized he didn't want to attempt to answer my question. So he backed out of the discussion. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Geopolitics and newsgroup dynamics
Slate's Fred Kaplan explains why and how President Bush should answer Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's letter. This is the kind of thinking I was contemplating when I addressed this topic recently, likening it to a newsgroup exchange. The essay opens with this: Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's 18-page letter to President Bush is a bizarre document. ... Even the Wall Street Journal editorial page isn't off the mark in likening the letter's philosophical depth to that of the Unabomber's soliloquies. And it closes with this: Bush and Ahmadinejadtwo of the world's most stubborn, self-righteous leaders. It's at once hopeful and pathetic that the next step in their confrontationwhether it intensifies or slackenscould be determined by whether Bush answers or brushes off a goofy letter. Read the whole essay here: http://www.slate.com/id/2141589/ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] For Sal
On May 11, 2006, at 12:17 PM, shempmcgurk wrote: I have absolutely no idea whether the following allegations are founded or unfounded, Sal Then why post them? , but judge for yourself whether they have more or less credibility than, say, the allegations against Clarence Thomas (who, by the way, was never accused by Anita Hill of ever actually being TOUCHED by Thomas). They have none. It talks of rape while presenting absolutely no evidence whatsoever other than heresay, by right-wingers who apparently find a fantasy-life more fulfilling than reality. What I find interesting, Shemp, is how you and other conservatives go absolutely bonkers at the mere mention of Clinton--it's like even his name triggers something that you just can't seem to get beyond or get over. Sal To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: For Sal
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 11, 2006, at 12:17 PM, shempmcgurk wrote: I have absolutely no idea whether the following allegations are founded or unfounded, Sal Then why post them? I guess the same reason Rick posted the Sexie Sadie file. , but judge for yourself whether they have more or less credibility than, say, the allegations against Clarence Thomas (who, by the way, was never accused by Anita Hill of ever actually being TOUCHED by Thomas). They have none. It talks of rape while presenting absolutely no evidence whatsoever other than heresay, by right-wingers who apparently find a fantasy-life more fulfilling than reality. What I find interesting, Shemp, is how you and other conservatives go absolutely bonkers at the mere mention of Clinton--it's like even his name triggers something that you just can't seem to get beyond or get over. Well, I like Clinton, as I've said many times here, so why would I go bonkers? Sal To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: Judy Stein
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes. The AMT virus has struck the poor, antibodiless citizens of FFL. clever and brilliant of you Peter - nice play on 'antibody', informed by poor, with the silent value of knowing, or not knowing, Brahman implied! --- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From a long-time lurker who occasionally posts anonymously: Wow Rick. This encounter with Curtis is scaring me. What is wrong with this woman? She really has changed the flavor of FFL. -- End of Forwarded Message __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rick's inquiry
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But he was so darned nice and polite. Has he been castrated? Usually when the subject of how my balls are doing comes up I just laugh nervously and slide my beer further down the bar... But I trust you enough to report that they are intact and doing fine. I was remembering the concept of losing one's energy the other day and figured out that if that were true, I would be in a coma by now! Back in the day I felt I had a contribution to the knowledge pool of my personal experience of how I went from TM-guy to non-meditator. These days I figure you guys have read all the same stuff I found so compelling, and it didn't move you as it did me. Knowledge is so personal that way. Although I may represent the extreme of the continuum of disbelief in this group, (I am just guessing), we share more insights on the movement than I'll bet we disagree about. The intellectual freedom expressed here is refreshing. I don't have an agenda to challenge anyone's spiritual beliefs here. I am enjoying hearing what you guys are saying about your relationship with the knowledge after all these years. Thanks for letting me hang with you guys. (brief handshake and appropriate male half-hug made slightly briefer by the recent mention of my ball sack) Hey Curtis, I don't care about your balls :-) but it's good to hear you just the same . And I do like your music! Hope you're having fun. John Youells To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Jerry Jarvis
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 5/11/06 10:10:32 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yeah, Jerry had the bizarre idea that the TMO should actually pay the attorneys the agreed upon fee for their services. What a strange concept, actually honoring the agreements you make with other people! Huh? I'm sure there is a juicy story here! The story that I hear was that Jerry tried to hold back $4 million to keep the US centers going when Maharishi wanted all the money sent overseas. But I can't remember the source for that. JohnY To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Geopolitics and newsgroup dynamics
--- authfriend wrote: --- Gillam wrote: Slate's Fred Kaplan explains why and how President Bush should answer Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's letter. It's a very good essay, Patrick. It's really hard to see what Bush could lose by taking Kaplan's advice. I like Kaplan's work. Has this topic hit the blogosphere? Or even a respectable op-ed page? I pursued that Democracy Has Failed thread partly in anticipation of what the larger world might discuss. I wanted to compare my impressions against what others ended up writing. Read the whole essay here: http://www.slate.com/id/2141589/ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rick's inquiry
Hey Curtis, I don't care about your balls :-) but it's good to hear you just the same . And I do like your music! Hope you're having fun. John Youells Hey John, Nice to hear from you. Remember the Timex Sinclair computer? I think that was our last discussion topic! So it has been a while! What technology are you into these days? Ever hear from Joe and Carol Smith? Nice memories of the center in W-B. Thanks for listening to my music. Curtis To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hi from Curtis
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [Shemp wrote:] What's the statute of limitations on WHO GIVES A FUCK? That was 10 years ago, woman! Give it up. Dude! Thanks for making me laugh out loud! Minor point here, but notice that Curtis carefully avoids pointing out to Shemp that he, Curtis, had willfully disregarded my suggestion that he not get me started. Curtis is perfectly happy--and most likely well pleased--for Shemp and many others here to continue to believe something that Curtis knows perfectly well is not so, i.e., that it was I who was pushing the discussion of what happened 10 years ago, rather than his very own self. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Geopolitics and newsgroup dynamics
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- authfriend wrote: --- Gillam wrote: Slate's Fred Kaplan explains why and how President Bush should answer Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's letter. It's a very good essay, Patrick. It's really hard to see what Bush could lose by taking Kaplan's advice. I like Kaplan's work. Has this topic hit the blogosphere? Or even a respectable op-ed page? I pursued that Democracy Has Failed thread partly in anticipation of what the larger world might discuss. I wanted to compare my impressions against what others ended up writing. There's plenty about the letter in the blogs. Here's a small sampling (from lefty blogs; if you want to read the right-wing view, you'll have to do your own research!): Juan Cole, Middle East expert: http://www.juancole.com/2006/05/ahmadinejad-as-w.html Political Animal (Kevin Drum): http://tinyurl.com/pr5yx Also from Drum, a post today about a *second* letter from Iran: http://tinyurl.com/oj3wc Steve Clemons' Washington Note (*very* bright, tuned-in policy expert): http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/archives/001381.php Lots of posts about the letter at Daily Kos; this is one of the better ones: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/5/9/1367/04709 Read the whole essay here: http://www.slate.com/id/2141589/ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Geopolitics and newsgroup dynamics
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- authfriend wrote: --- Gillam wrote: Slate's Fred Kaplan explains why and how President Bush should answer Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's letter. It's a very good essay, Patrick. It's really hard to see what Bush could lose by taking Kaplan's advice. I like Kaplan's work. Has this topic hit the blogosphere? Or even a respectable op-ed page? I pursued that Democracy Has Failed thread partly in anticipation of what the larger world might discuss. I wanted to compare my impressions against what others ended up writing. Editorial in the Boston Globe: http://tinyurl.com/eo5lq Wall Street Journal op-ed: http://tinyurl.com/ov6uv Washington Times editorial (the Moonie paper): http://tinyurl.com/hx5zz Open letter to Ahmadinejad from the editor of the Al-Jazeerah.info Web site (not related to Al Jazeera, the TV station): http://tinyurl.com/ktcxt (I haven't read all these; I just did a Yahoo search.) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rick's inquiry
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey John, Nice to hear from you. Remember the Timex Sinclair computer? I think that was our last discussion topic! So it has been a while! What technology are you into these days? Ever hear from Joe and Carol Smith? Nice memories of the center in W-B. Thanks for listening to my music. Curtis (Un-re-certified technology too. ) AMD 4400+ X2 - a far cry from 2mHz Z80, and a few grandchildren :-) I never hear from Joe and Carole, although I hear from many of the others who came through here. Had Charlie here a few times in the 80's, got half blacklisted for 10yrs or so.. How is your sister? JohnY To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Yogic flying video online at Natl Geographic
http://tinyurl.com/peowr To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hi from Curtis
Judy is correct about this... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Geopolitics and newsgroup dynamics
Hey, thanks! I wasn't enterprising enough. I'll check them out. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam jpgillam@ wrote: --- authfriend wrote: --- Gillam wrote: Slate's Fred Kaplan explains why and how President Bush should answer Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's letter. It's a very good essay, Patrick. It's really hard to see what Bush could lose by taking Kaplan's advice. I like Kaplan's work. Has this topic hit the blogosphere? Or even a respectable op-ed page? I pursued that Democracy Has Failed thread partly in anticipation of what the larger world might discuss. I wanted to compare my impressions against what others ended up writing. Editorial in the Boston Globe: http://tinyurl.com/eo5lq Wall Street Journal op-ed: http://tinyurl.com/ov6uv Washington Times editorial (the Moonie paper): http://tinyurl.com/hx5zz Open letter to Ahmadinejad from the editor of the Al-Jazeerah.info Web site (not related to Al Jazeera, the TV station): http://tinyurl.com/ktcxt (I haven't read all these; I just did a Yahoo search.) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM people develop yet another cult trait
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Remember when the Hari Krisnas used to accost people in airports and public streets and hit them up for donations? Although I remember them doing it in full Krishna regalia (i.e. flowing robes, pigtails and tambourines), I also remember when they went through a stage in which they did the prostelytizing purposely dressed as westerners. And, sneakily, they would ask for donations for their educational organisation. If pressed further, they would say it was for ISKCON and unless you asked them what that was an acronym for, you were none-the-wiser that you were giving money to the HK's. Well, TMer Stephen Collins pulled a Hari Krishna last year when he appeared on Bravo's Celebrity Poker series (he won) in which each episode 5 celebrities play No-Limit Texas Hold 'Em for their favourite charity. Collins announced he was playing for The MUM Foundation. No mention of TM or Maharishi, just like the Hari Krishnas used to. All he did was explain that the Mum Foundation offered a technology to promote World Peace. Take a look: http://tinyurl.com/zroba *** Celebrities at these poker games are not expected to blab on about their charities. Collins gave the same brief exposition that all the other players did -- it was not a venue for a TM lecture. The Bravo page you link to above contains a hotlink to http://www.permanentpeace.org from the MUM Foundation line. If you say TM to the average person, they might think they know something about from hearing about the Beatles etc -- by talking about world peace, it gives people an opportunity to look at the topic afresh. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: He ain't heavy, he's my brother...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] You must be a vata type. Vata types think that is always the solution because they never get fat. Too many MD's are vata types. Kapha types can get fat on a 1200 calorie a day diet. So don't eat so much doesn't always work. And what if you have hypoglycemia which has been almost epidemic in the TM movement? In general we eat for our minds not out bodies. As Robert Svoboda once told me, people eat more as the body is trying to slow them down using food. Usually this means that people are eating comfort foods to ground out. This may calm the mind but put pounds on the body. There's always my diet plan: get sick, don't eat for a week, lose 18 pounds. Worked for me: went from 292 to 274 since the last time I left a message on FFL. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Tuition costs versus gasoline prices
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's a sad day when Ann Coulter invades the peaceful sanctuary of FFL. Reading Ann Coulter could easily qualify as a variation of my get sick for a week diet. Perhaps that is what Shemp had in mind... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Geopolitics and newsgroup dynamics
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, thanks! I wasn't enterprising enough. I'll check them out. Well, I've now read them all, including the blog posts, and most of them aren't terribly edifying (especially the newspaper pieces). The best of them, I think, is the Daily Kos post. There may be more interesting stuff in the comments to the blog posts, but you typically have to wade through a fair amount of inanity to find the nuggets. Anyway, of the bunch, I thought Kaplan's essay was by far the most thoughtful. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam jpgillam@ wrote: --- authfriend wrote: --- Gillam wrote: Slate's Fred Kaplan explains why and how President Bush should answer Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's letter. It's a very good essay, Patrick. It's really hard to see what Bush could lose by taking Kaplan's advice. I like Kaplan's work. Has this topic hit the blogosphere? Or even a respectable op-ed page? I pursued that Democracy Has Failed thread partly in anticipation of what the larger world might discuss. I wanted to compare my impressions against what others ended up writing. Editorial in the Boston Globe: http://tinyurl.com/eo5lq Wall Street Journal op-ed: http://tinyurl.com/ov6uv Washington Times editorial (the Moonie paper): http://tinyurl.com/hx5zz Open letter to Ahmadinejad from the editor of the Al-Jazeerah.info Web site (not related to Al Jazeera, the TV station): http://tinyurl.com/ktcxt (I haven't read all these; I just did a Yahoo search.) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: He ain't heavy, he's my brother...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip There's always my diet plan: get sick, don't eat for a week, lose 18 pounds. Worked for me: went from 292 to 274 since the last time I left a message on FFL. Jeez. What were you sick with? Are you all better now? I was wondering where you were. Glad to see you back. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM people develop yet another cult trait
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: Remember when the Hari Krisnas used to accost people in airports and public streets and hit them up for donations? Although I remember them doing it in full Krishna regalia (i.e. flowing robes, pigtails and tambourines), I also remember when they went through a stage in which they did the prostelytizing purposely dressed as westerners. And, sneakily, they would ask for donations for their educational organisation. If pressed further, they would say it was for ISKCON and unless you asked them what that was an acronym for, you were none-the-wiser that you were giving money to the HK's. Well, TMer Stephen Collins pulled a Hari Krishna last year when he appeared on Bravo's Celebrity Poker series (he won) in which each episode 5 celebrities play No-Limit Texas Hold 'Em for their favourite charity. Collins announced he was playing for The MUM Foundation. No mention of TM or Maharishi, just like the Hari Krishnas used to. All he did was explain that the Mum Foundation offered a technology to promote World Peace. Take a look: http://tinyurl.com/zroba *** Celebrities at these poker games are not expected to blab on about their charities. ...but they are expected to be honest... Collins gave the same brief exposition that all the other players did ...none of the other celebrities hid the actual name of the charity... -- it was not a venue for a TM lecture. ...hiding the name of the organisation and not giving a lecture are two different things... The Bravo page you link to above contains a hotlink to http://www.permanentpeace.org from the MUM Foundation line. ...putting a link on the website is not the same as saying the full name of the charity on TV where it's seen and heard by probably a thousand times more people. And, mind you, on the website MUM Foundation is STILL only given as the acronym and NOT the full name. Indeed, if you click on to the players link on the left at the same web and check all 35 players' charities, you'll see that only three others' charities use acronyms...and that's because they are charities or illnesses that are so WELL KNOWN that it isn't necessary (e.g. SPCA, CARE, ALS)...all the others give the full name (or the acronym WITH the full name) Check out what this fellow says on his blog about the sneaky way Collins did it: http://www.canonist.com/?p=186 If you say TM to the average person, they might think they know something about from hearing about the Beatles etc -- by talking about world peace, it gives people an opportunity to look at the topic afresh. Sounds like the same justification that cults like Hare Krishna and the Moonies give for why THEY hide their organisations' names when THEY are trying to raise money. Sorry, Bob, but the downside of NOT giving full disclosure is a whole lot more damaging than giving full disclosure... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: There's nothing girlish about him
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer fairfieldlife@ wrote: Just as Girish doesn't get western culture, MMY never really did either, even though he lived and traveled in it so long. So true. His approach was always to try to bend Western culture to the ideal that he had in his mind, rather than try to understand it and deal with it on its own level. The problem, of course, is that his ideal is all based on myth and fantasy from an Indian past that may very well have never existed. He's *still* trying to replicate a Vedic culture that probably *always* existed only as a dream had by those who weren't content with what was actually going on around them. As I said: memories of future past... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Girlfriends Galore for MMY, eh?-
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gloria Steinem says that a man is allowed one free grope Next time I see Gloria I'm going to take her up on that free grope. That's very generous of her. She must have been a beautiful baby, but baby look at. lurk To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: Judy Stein
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From a long-time lurker who occasionally posts anonymously: Wow Rick. This encounter with Curtis is scaring me. What is wrong with this woman? She really has changed the flavor of FFL. -- End of Forwarded Message This is true. But Rick has allowed the free and open discussion, which of course is good. It is up to the group consciousness to deal with this. And the way to deal with it is s simple. Just don't participate in the pettiness. lurk To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hi from Curtis
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My take on it is that Judy loves a good fight. It makes her feel alive or something. Since Barry isn't playing along much lately, Curtis' debut got her salivating. But he was so darned nice and polite. Has he been castrated? What's his problem? Anyway, she's been trying unsuccessfully to goad him into an argument. And we are all holding our breath to see if he is going to oblige. And we are all deeply hoping that he does not. lurk To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: He ain't heavy, he's my brother...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's always my diet plan: get sick, don't eat for a week, lose 18 pounds. Worked for me: went from 292 to 274 since the last time I left a message on FFL. Spare, is this for real? lurk To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hi from Curtis
Probably not Curtis, but if you do, please let us know and I'll spring for the popcorn. :) Sal On May 11, 2006, at 7:23 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: I had a question and I got my answer. No need to bore you guys anymore is there?
