[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge

2011-06-16 Thread maskedzebra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote: There's a big sign up in the dome saying that anybody caught helping any saint will have their dome badge taken away. Way to go MUM. Another bullet in the foot. There's a big sign up in the dome saying that anybody caught

[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge

2011-06-17 Thread maskedzebra
e: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge MIU anti-saint? WTF! CDB CDB:Let's recap the teaching. All humans have an innate capacity to reach the ground of all being, the home of all the laws of nature, the source of thought, the Self in a simple natural, innocent way. Through repeated exposure to this

[FairfieldLife] Re: Visit with Amma

2011-06-18 Thread maskedzebra
Dear Denise Evans, If Amma were a good thing, the universe would, unequivocally, be determined to demonstrate this. In fact the universe, reality, has never gone out of its way to validate ANY claim of spiritual perfection. So my conclusion is: this supposed 'higher state of consciousness'

[FairfieldLife] Re: Visit with Amma

2011-06-18 Thread maskedzebra
are cosmic accidents. And Amma cannot, because of this, represent ANY kind of coherent philosophy that has some intrinsic relationship to reality. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@ wrote: Dear Denise Evans

[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge

2011-06-21 Thread maskedzebra
Yogi raviyogi@... wrote: FFL Bitches stand up and acknowledge maskedzebra, the prodigal pimp of the TM movement, yet another pimp (egoist) in the parade of assembly line of pimps here, jostling for enthrallment. He's got the hottest and meanest whore (intellect), a whacky whore indeed. Oooh he's

[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge

2011-06-21 Thread maskedzebra
prove fatal. No, really, Ravi Yogi, I am a nice guy. I think you've got be wrong. Give me a chance, will you? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: On Jun 17, 2011, at 2:06 PM, maskedzebra wrote

[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge

2011-06-21 Thread maskedzebra
of an Amma Retreat.) One thing for sure, RY is very sincere in his spirituality. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Jun 21, 2011, at 8:50 AM, maskedzebra wrote: Hey, Ravi Yogi, I'm new to FFL. I probably should read some of your other posts before responding

[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge

2011-06-21 Thread maskedzebra
: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: On Jun 21, 2011, at 8:50 AM, maskedzebra wrote: ... Otherwise I am likely to become hostile to all Hindus. And I am sure you are a nice guy. Just a little too powerful and accurate in your put-downs of us de-Hinduized

[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge

2011-06-21 Thread maskedzebra
OK! Now I can just FORGET about that devastating put-down of me! God! to feel good about myself again: can't beat it. Although I hope you're wrong about this insinuation. Hey, Ravi: if you're reading this: Please know that I enjoyed that interview with RA—I got quite a lot out of it (first 50

[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge

2011-06-21 Thread maskedzebra
Whoa. Now you got me thinking I should have JUST NOT SAID ANYTHING AT ALL. I mean in reply to Ravi Yogi. Still, bless him—I think his love for his guru (Amma) seems genuine. But the threat to my self-prestige (my necessary egoism) seems to have come to nothing after reading this. Those Indian

[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge

2011-06-21 Thread maskedzebra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@... wrote: You know, Ravi Yogi, Rick Archer invited me to post on this blog. When I looked over the blog, it seemed pretty dangerous—that is, as I said to RA, I might get eaten alive by the sacred monsters on this blog. Perhaps

[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge

2011-06-21 Thread maskedzebra
: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@ wrote: Whoa. Now you got me thinking I should have JUST NOT SAID ANYTHING AT ALL. I mean in reply to Ravi Yogi. Still, bless him—I think his love for his guru (Amma) seems genuine. I think so too. But the threat to my self

[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge

2011-06-21 Thread maskedzebra
T:I was never a part of the TMO when you were around and doing your thing, but from what others have said here, you might have felt that the things you were saying then and the claims you were making then were sincere and genuine, too. Now, in retro- spect, you might not think the same of them.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge

2011-06-21 Thread maskedzebra
You don't acknowledge self realization as anything special anyway, so you can't have it both ways, can't push against something that according to you does not exist. And if that's your game, you're a troll - not that there's anything wrong with it. May I correct your assumption here? I do

[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge

2011-06-21 Thread maskedzebra
. MMY basically said that unless you can perform the siddhis at any time, you can't really lay claim to being in Unity. RESPONSE: He did indeed say this. He even said it on my Six Month Course (where I purportedly entered into a different state of consciousness). But the thing here is: when

[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge

2011-06-21 Thread maskedzebra
MMY basically said that unless you can perform the siddhis at any time, you can't really lay claim to being in Unity. RESPONSE: He did indeed say this. He even said it on my Six Month Course (where I purportedly entered into a different state of consciousness). Funny thing, I was never

[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge

2011-06-21 Thread maskedzebra
comments - no, I don't consider myself a Hindu though I have lot of Hindu conditioning, you are free to hate the Hindus - wouldn't bother me a little bit and yes the beloved is the Self. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@ wrote: Thanks, vajradhatu. I watched

[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge

2011-06-21 Thread maskedzebra
@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@ wrote: You know, Ravi Yogi, Rick Archer invited me to post on this blog. When I looked over the blog, it seemed pretty dangerous—that is, as I said to RA, I might get eaten alive

[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge

2011-06-22 Thread maskedzebra
reality can I bear? That's the criterion I set for myself spiritually. India is inside of you. This makes you a good resource for me. So, fresh start, right? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... wrote: Dear maskedzebra, I would concur with what Steve said earlier

[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge

2011-06-22 Thread maskedzebra
the first 2 or 3 paragraphs, I lost interest. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@ wrote: Thanks for the information. I will, as you say, keep my own counsel in these matters. Meantime I always use the formula of maximum sincerity simultaneous with (contingent

[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge

2011-06-22 Thread maskedzebra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Jun 21, 2011, at 3:36 PM, maskedzebra wrote: RESPONSE: No, Lawson, I very much did need to validate it for myself. But you see, Unity Consciousness validates itself—I wrote 11 books about this: either about Unity

[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge

2011-06-22 Thread maskedzebra
literally: that my experiences with MMY somehow led me to a form of hopeless misogyny. Not true: as my love for Gaga proves. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Begin

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hope Without Magical Thinking

2011-06-22 Thread maskedzebra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: Whoa, very nice waking state critique Turq. Nice writing. -Buck I wonder why you would refer to the obvious fact that he had to be

[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge

2011-06-22 Thread maskedzebra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@ wrote: Thanks for the reply MZ and kind words. And thanks for taking the paragraphing request as is was meant, a way to help me read posts worth

[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge

2011-06-22 Thread maskedzebra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@ wrote: RESPONSE: Anyone who claims to have gotten there some other way than TM is just as deceived as the person who (like me) seemed to have all

[FairfieldLife] No Ground Of All Being [was Re: Help a Saint - Lose]

2011-06-22 Thread maskedzebra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote: masked zebra wrote: RESPONSE: Not a single person in my lifetime has demonstrated impeccably and infallibly that such a ground of all being even exists. That is, if I am to go by his/her claim to become the

[FairfieldLife] No Ground Of All Being [was Re: Help a Saint - Lose]

2011-06-22 Thread maskedzebra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote: Dear Rick, If my enlightenment was not the real deal, then in all that I say about enlightenment, I will be revealing this discrepancy between my version of Unity Consciousness and the real version. Somehow, if I was not in

[FairfieldLife] Re: question for MZ

2011-06-23 Thread maskedzebra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, at_man_and_brahman at_man_and_brahman@... wrote: Hi. I'm a long-term lurker and very occasional poster on FFL. I had a close high school friend who went to MIU a few years before I did. He, as a freshman, attended your meetings and got royally

[FairfieldLife] No Ground Of All Being [was Re: Help a Saint - Lose]

2011-06-23 Thread maskedzebra
as we have known it.) Time for me to STFU now, Turq. Thank you. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: Dear Rick, If my enlightenment was not the real deal, then in all that I say about

[FairfieldLife] No Ground Of All Being [was Re: Help a Saint - Lose]

2011-06-23 Thread maskedzebra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... wrote: RESPONSE: Seems like reasonable request, Ravi. Let me work on it, OK? Dear maskedzebra - all I see is a lot of intellectual jugglery and nothing concrete. Can you please, if it's even possible for you, describe in a few

[FairfieldLife] No Ground Of All Being [was Re: Help a Saint - Lose]

2011-06-23 Thread maskedzebra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 wayback71@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: Dear Rick, If my enlightenment was not the real deal, then in all

[FairfieldLife] No Ground Of All Being [was Re: Help a Saint - Lose]

2011-06-23 Thread maskedzebra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 wayback71@ wrote: MZ- I think you have some interesting things to say. But the way you write is so condensed that it obscures your ideas. It could be that I simply

[FairfieldLife] No Ground Of All Being [was Re: Help a Saint - Lose]

2011-06-23 Thread maskedzebra
time. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 wayback71@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

[FairfieldLife] Re: No Ground

2011-06-23 Thread maskedzebra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blastedactresses no_reply@... wrote: Dear maskedzebra - all I see is a lot of intellectual jugglery and nothing concrete. Can you please, if it's even possible for you, describe in a few lines each on your enlightenment, the reasons why you thought

[FairfieldLife] Re: No Ground

2011-06-24 Thread maskedzebra
Dear blastedactresses, I am fairly new around here, and I guess I haven't mastered the method of tracking down a post that I once read. For instance, your query about Werner Erhard. Can't find it anywhere, and I have searched long enough. But I would like to elaborate on that incident which I

[FairfieldLife] No Ground Of All Being [was Re: Help a Saint - Lose]

2011-06-24 Thread maskedzebra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@... wrote: On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 1:30 AM, maskedzebra no_re...@yahoogroups.comwrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: Dear Rick, If my enlightenment was not the real deal, then in all

[FairfieldLife] Re: Groundless

2011-06-24 Thread maskedzebra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blastedactresses no_reply@... wrote: But I would like to elaborate on that incident which I described when Werner attacked me physically (along with his assistants). ( maskedzebra, before you said: ) and he physically attacked me. ( can you

[FairfieldLife] Re: No Ground

2011-06-24 Thread maskedzebra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@ wrote: I am fairly new around here, and I guess I haven't mastered the method of tracking down a post that I once read. For instance, your query about

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bow to BS much?

2011-06-24 Thread maskedzebra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blastedactresses no_reply@... wrote: Replace the word 'Bullshit' with 'Opinion' and by George I think you've got it. :-) At no point have I ever suggested that MZ's rap was BS. I have suggested that it's nothing but opinion, and that he seems to be

[FairfieldLife] Re: No Ground

2011-06-24 Thread maskedzebra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blastedactresses no_reply@... wrote: maskedzebra, I am fairly new around here, .. But life will eventually get around to it one way or another. ( RESPONSE: your sweeping opinions and generalizations are noted and your contempt

[FairfieldLife] No Ground Of All Being [was Re: Help a Saint - Lose]

2011-06-24 Thread maskedzebra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@... wrote: On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 5:20 AM, maskedzebra no_re...@yahoogroups.comwrote: RESPONSE: Thomas, could you provide an example of a sentence or two, from the letter above, which illustrates the problem

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bow to BS much?

2011-06-24 Thread maskedzebra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blastedactresses no_reply@... wrote: Some don't take kindly to this. Some get kinda bent or offended or angry and act out about it, as if pitching a hissy fit will make what they said more fact and less opinion. I'm not convinced it works that way.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Says who?

2011-06-24 Thread maskedzebra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blastedactresses no_reply@... wrote: Nevertheless, his basic questions are relevant: ( relevant? who says what is relevant? you and maskedzebra?) The fact that you did not reply to them is odd. ( Who is it odd to? Who says

[FairfieldLife] Re: No Ground

2011-06-24 Thread maskedzebra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@... wrote: On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 11:34 AM, maskedzebra no_re...@yahoogroups.comwrote: RESPONSE: 1. As soon as I stood up to speak Werner immediately approached me physically while simultaneously motioning to his assistants

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hit the Ground

2011-06-24 Thread maskedzebra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blastedactresses no_reply@... wrote: Mein Gott! This guy can write coherent sentences if he sets his mind to it. I'm sure the bag ladies will jump all over your description as the utmost i brutality, but I grew up in something of a rough and tumble

[FairfieldLife] Re: No Ground

2011-06-24 Thread maskedzebra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, PaliGap compost1uk@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@ wrote: ...Werner believes his metaphysical totalitarianism... ...that might just smash open the metaphysical falseness... Isn't there SOMEONE out

[FairfieldLife] Re: No Ground

2011-06-24 Thread maskedzebra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@... wrote: On Jun 24, 2011, at 1:10 PM, sparaig wrote: --- I n FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@ wrote: [...] RESPONSE: Admittedly it is a desperate situation to be in, but you know how we

[FairfieldLife] Re: No Ground

2011-06-24 Thread maskedzebra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@... wrote: On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 12:18 PM, maskedzebra no_re...@yahoogroups.comwrote: RESPONSE: Admittedly it is a desperate situation to be in, but you know how we missionaries think: maybe only one of the natives

[FairfieldLife] Re: Says who?

2011-06-24 Thread maskedzebra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 wayback71@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blastedactresses no_reply@ wrote

[FairfieldLife] Re: No Ground

2011-06-24 Thread maskedzebra
—never known anything like it. So let's keep it going. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@ wrote: [...] RESPONSE: Admittedly it is a desperate situation to be in, but you know how we missionaries

[FairfieldLife] Re: No Ground

2011-06-24 Thread maskedzebra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, PaliGap compost1uk@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, PaliGap compost1uk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@ wrote

[FairfieldLife] Re: No Ground

2011-06-24 Thread maskedzebra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@ wrote: When my subjectivity starts to infiltrate my reasoning faculties such that I find myself on the defensive, then I will know that reality is trying

[FairfieldLife] Re: No Ground

2011-06-24 Thread maskedzebra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sallysunshine01 salsunshine@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: On Jun 24, 2011, at 1:10 PM, sparaig wrote: --- I

[FairfieldLife] No Ground Of All Being [was Re: Help a Saint - Lose]

2011-06-27 Thread maskedzebra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@ wrote: LOVE IT! THANKS. GOT MY ATTENTION. You prove my pet theory: when a person's first person perspective comes—unwittingly, adventitiously

[FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam

2011-06-27 Thread maskedzebra
the greatest success and delight (and TRUTH!) inside the movement of your own experience of purported self-realization. Life is good—always—somewhere. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... wrote: Dear maskedzebra - you look like a really nice guy and everything

[FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam

2011-06-27 Thread maskedzebra
Dear Bob Price, My intention is to do justice to what you have said, and how you have entertained us with your recent posts. But having just been (perhaps imprudently) drawn into hand-to-hand combat with Ravi, I think it wise that I take a 'time-out', just to collect myself and become

[FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam

2011-06-27 Thread maskedzebra
From: maskedzebra no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, June 27, 2011 8:56:56 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam Dear Bob Price, My intention is to do justice to what you

[FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam

2011-06-28 Thread maskedzebra
; they follow an intimate instinct and ARE MOVED BY A BETTER PRINCIPLE. [my emphasis] This, I must believe, applies to the case of that immortal soul Ravi Yogi. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... wrote: Dear maskedzebra, I have refrained from commenting on your experiences

[FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam

2011-06-28 Thread maskedzebra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@... wrote: On Jun 27, 2011, at 3:09 PM, maskedzebra wrote: I am, however, going to ask you to slow down on the tour preparations. That's a pretty big move for this willed introvert (once exuberant performer). Never

[FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam

2011-06-28 Thread maskedzebra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: snip Turq is the real deal too~~he always saves his best for when you're

[FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam

2011-06-29 Thread maskedzebra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@ wrote: Because in reading Catholic philosophers—like Aquinas—I find myself intuiting the cosmos as they experienced it—I sort of read this off of their writing

[FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam

2011-06-29 Thread maskedzebra
Because in reading Catholic philosophers—like Aquinas—I find myself intuiting the cosmos as they experienced it—I sort of read this off of their writing. MZ, I have a question for you. Xeno called attention to the fact that Aquinas late in life had some kind of experience that

[FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam

2011-06-30 Thread maskedzebra
, maskedzebra no_reply@ wrote: Had I started to experience exactly what happened to me on that mountain just above Arosa, Switzerland in September 1976—having only known (about) reality through the writing of Thomas Aquinas—now realize, I am going to be totally honest here—I WOULD HAVE IMMEDIATELY

[FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam

2011-06-30 Thread maskedzebra
Perfect enjoyment demands intelligence. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... wrote: Dear maskedzebra - your message is so beautiful that I'm forced to respond to this excellent judgement of my nature (except for the zero sincerity part) line by line, I say you

[FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam

2011-06-30 Thread maskedzebra
. [and it is] set it in the vision of God. . . for those who see him who sees everything, what is there they do not see? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@ wrote: Perfect enjoyment demands intelligence

[FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam

2011-06-30 Thread maskedzebra
: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@ wrote: (And if this post gets me kicked off of FFL, so be it. As much as my inner adolescent would *love* an excuse to shout, Take off, zebra!, FFL is a hardcore free-speech zone, with the only strictly enforced

[FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam

2011-07-01 Thread maskedzebra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote: On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 6:49 PM, maskedzebra no_re...@yahoogroups.comwrote: Dear Tom, Just to clear one thing up. I never paid any attention to post counts, because I never knew anything about limits. I

[FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam

2011-07-01 Thread maskedzebra
Just for the record, Tom: all that I have written here (that isn't deliberately ironic) is utterly sincere—sincere here means, my motives are honourable (at least as far as I can consciously know them). As for your condemnation of my writing: style and form of argumentation, I must admit I

[FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam

2011-07-02 Thread maskedzebra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@ wrote: I note there is a Catholic priest in Brazil teaching children Transcendental Meditation. I have seen the David Lynch tape. An obviously

[FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam

2011-07-02 Thread maskedzebra
make us think. Usually we just hurl insults. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@ wrote: On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 6:49 PM, maskedzebra no_re...@yahoogroups.comwrote: Dear Tom, Just to clear one thing up. I never paid any attention to post counts

[FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam

2011-07-03 Thread maskedzebra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@ wrote: Dear Feste36, I didn't miss seeing this, and as you will understand, it (and because of where it seemed to come from) was consoling to me. Indeed

[FairfieldLife] Re: Summa Wrestling and one more swipe at William of Occam

2011-07-10 Thread maskedzebra
Summa Wrestling and one more swipe at William of Occam: at_man_and_brahman poses a question or two for Masked Zebra: Robin, no one has taken up my suggestion to consider how William of Occam would treat your story. As you probably know, Occam's Razor says, Pluralitas non est ponenda sine

[FairfieldLife] Re: Summa Wrestling

2011-07-11 Thread maskedzebra
beyond that of my subjective appreciation of them. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@ wrote: Re: Summa Wrestling ME: First a meta comment thank you for taking the time to give a detailed response. A conversation about a topic dear to us that we may

[FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam

2011-07-11 Thread maskedzebra
comments on some of the peripheral issues we talked about, some loose ends that intrigue me: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@ wrote: megasnip [I wrote:] AF: One comment noted that the word straw was a conventional metaphor for a literal reading of the Bible

[FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam

2011-07-11 Thread maskedzebra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply @... wrote: snip My dear beloved one , discoverer of the PhantomEnlightenment Syndrome (lol), you are right not BACH . During the Read of your postings

[FairfieldLife] Re: Summa Wrestling

2011-07-11 Thread maskedzebra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote: (My sincere apologies to those who are receiving all of these re-edited versions of the same post via email) RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote: Welcome back, Robin :- maskedzebra no_reply@ wrote: RESPONSE: I sense

[FairfieldLife] Re: Summa Wrestling

2011-07-22 Thread maskedzebra
will be a substitute for that. Thanks, nablusoss. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@ wrote: MZ responds to CDB: Nablusoss responds to MZ: Your post was 37 pages long. Do you any idea what

[FairfieldLife] Re: Summa Wrestling

2011-07-24 Thread maskedzebra
Dear Buck, Regrettably I cannot offer a substitute for TM (and Maharishi). For me, it was either TM or nothing (as a method of acquiring an objective religious experience: i.e. to know what is reality). Same goes for Maharishi. It was him as the would-be Christ, or it was no one. Now I was

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Sandals

2011-07-25 Thread maskedzebra
of phases, Buddhist being one of them, and I had some spectacular experiences with beings in the Buddhist lokas, but decided to stop because it didn't seem like that was really my world anymore. Love, m On Jul 24, 2011, at 12:47 AM, maskedzebra wrote: Dear Mark, This will perhaps

[FairfieldLife] Re: Reincarnation

2011-07-26 Thread maskedzebra
, that reincarnation was false. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, PaliGap compost1uk@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@ wrote: Reincarnation has never been accepted in Western Civilization—except after LSD and the invasion of the alien gods

[FairfieldLife] Re: Reincarnation

2011-07-26 Thread maskedzebra
Masked Zebra responds to Pal Gap: Dear Robin, It would have been better for me to just admit that in the most profound sense I feel and intuit it is a lie. That's fine Robin - but our intuitions differ. RESPONSE: That poses an interesting question: is there any way by which one could

[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count (Deletegate)

2011-07-29 Thread maskedzebra
On Jul 29, 2011, at 7:21 AM, Alex Stanley wrote: Jim recently spaced out on the day/time and had to take a week off. The only difference here is that Judy quickly saw her mistake and attempted to right the wrong by deleting her posts. It's not righting anything, it's just covering it up.

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Monkees Fan Club metaphor

2011-11-09 Thread maskedzebra
The Barry Wright Syndrome Barry decides he has a point of view about something—e.g. Puja is trained moodmaking; persons on FFL are all bigoted Monkees Fan Club members. He then asserts that his point of view must be the equivalent of reality. But you see, he never conceives of the

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Monkees Fan Club metaphor

2011-11-09 Thread maskedzebra
As kingfishers catch fire, dragonflies draw flame; As tumbled over rim in roundy wells Stones ring; like each tucked string tells, each hung bell's Bow swung finds the tongue to fling out broad its name; Each mortal thing does one thing and the same: Deals out that being indoors each one dwells;

[FairfieldLife] Re: Can an Enlightened Person Have Lust?

2011-11-09 Thread maskedzebra
RESPONSE: You leave those poor Catholics out of it, Ravi Yogi! It's a different universe now. And anything goes. You are the living avatar of this. But at one time (before I was born: you should know better because you retroactively inhabited eternity once you became enlightened—you're the only

[FairfieldLife] Re: Can an Enlightened Person Have Lust?

2011-11-09 Thread maskedzebra
Bob: This is a personal thing of course, but I judge this Wile E. Coyote gets the Road Runner video as perfect a joke as I have ever heard. It is a joke—not knowingly of course—conceived of inside a perfect sensitivity to how the universe is since you-know-what [having sent me a video of it,

[FairfieldLife] Gone Mental (was Re: WHY TM CAN'T BE LEARNED FROM A BOOK)

2011-11-10 Thread maskedzebra
Gone Mental (was Re: WHY TM CAN'T BE LEARNED FROM A BOOK) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: So the time may be approach- ing in which I'm not gonna find anything posted here inter-

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Mayor's Dome Numbers

2011-11-10 Thread maskedzebra
The viciousness begins. Where is the 'opinion' here, Barry Baby? Barry suckers punches—then insists: It's all opinion, folks! The knife goes in. Fuck off, Barry. The human race is embarrassed. Curtis to the rescue pronto. Santa --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@...

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Monkees Fan Club metaphor

2011-11-11 Thread maskedzebra
in groans grind. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@ wrote: The Barry Wright Syndrome Barry decides he has a point of view about something—e.g. Puja is trained moodmaking; persons on FFL are all bigoted Monkees Fan Club members. He then asserts that his point

[FairfieldLife] Gone Mental (was Re: WHY TM CAN'T BE LEARNED FROM A BOOK)

2011-11-11 Thread maskedzebra
@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote: Good stuff. Now I'm off to see the Blues play the Maple Leafs. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@ wrote: Gone Mental (was Re: WHY TM CAN'T BE LEARNED FROM A BOOK) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Monkees Fan Club metaphor

2011-11-11 Thread maskedzebra
you illustrate children's books for a living, or something? maskedzebra --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda no_reply@... wrote: lol You MZ lives in limbs, And looks through eyes not yours With lovely yearning? Keeps grace, (abiding in the sanctifying grace): that keeps all his

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Monkees Fan Club metaphor

2011-11-11 Thread maskedzebra
] http://youtu.be/1pAcfJQgxjE http://youtu.be/1pAcfJQgxjE --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@ wrote: The Barry Wright Syndrome Barry decides he has a point of view about something—e.g. Puja is trained moodmaking; persons on FFL are all bigoted Monkees Fan Club

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Mayor's Dome Numbers

2011-11-11 Thread maskedzebra
Dear nablusoss1008: You are a doctrinaire. Rick Archer is staying true to the profoundest of intuitions that he derived from his association with and self-sacrifice to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. All that you say here is a rationalization after the fact. At the height of your devotion to

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Mayor's Dome Numbers

2011-11-11 Thread maskedzebra
, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@ wrote: Dear nablusoss1008: You are a doctrinaire. Rick Archer is staying true to the profoundest of intuitions that he derived from his association with and self-sacrifice to Maharishi Mahesh

[FairfieldLife] Beyond Opinion ( Monkees Fan Clubs)

2011-11-11 Thread maskedzebra
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wivo94ylmhE

[FairfieldLife] Trained Moodmaking: How It All Began

2011-11-11 Thread maskedzebra
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Jj3wZVc7nw

[FairfieldLife] How I Got I First Got To Know Guru Dev

2011-11-11 Thread maskedzebra
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6a3NcwfOBzQ

[FairfieldLife] The Beginning of Understanding There Must Be Unity Consciousness

2011-11-11 Thread maskedzebra
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0SIAR9TRxk

[FairfieldLife] Re: Beyond Opinion ( Monkees Fan Clubs)

2011-11-12 Thread maskedzebra
, Denise Evans dmevans365@... wrote: Robin:  I cannot believe you posted a link with no words (totally kidding).  This is so beautiful.  Soothes the soul.  Thank you. From: maskedzebra no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Mayor's Dome Numbers

2011-11-12 Thread maskedzebra
this, please. Robin --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@... wrote: Good to be corrected, nablusoss1008. I will take your strong objections to all that I have said, as evidence that I have got you wrong somewhere. Certainly from how you have responded to my post, I need not fear

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