--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have believed in reincarnation, but I must say I did
not understand what the word meant. I have always thought
of reincarnating as death and rebirth. But lets look at when you
said. Consciouness does not die.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie ltm457@ wrote:
I have believed in reincarnation, but I must say I did
not understand what the word meant. I have always thought
of reincarnating as death and
and reuniting. This way is so much better.
- Original Message From: sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.comSent: Monday, October 30, 2006 7:02:42 PMSubject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Bruce Hughes on studying consciousness
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie ltm457@ wrote:
I have believed in reincarnation, but I must say I did
not understand what
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have lived so many lives in this one life it is amazing
I actually like this way better. I can die but continue so
that I can come back to a place or group of people and reunite
instead of as in reincarnation
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie ltm457@ wrote:
I have
do after is simply conscious choice.
On the physical your body is birthing and dying everyday..
- Original Message From: sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.comSent: Monday, October 30, 2006 8:19:12 PMSubject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Bruce Hughes on studying
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
More cogently, we have to ask whether the research approach is
really
appropriate to the subject. Are brainwave measurements, no matter
how
sophisticated, really indicative of the operation or qualities of
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ wrote:
More cogently, we have to ask whether the research approach is
really appropriate to the subject. Are brainwave measurements,
no matter how
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo
richardhughes103@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ wrote:
More cogently, we have to ask whether the research approach is
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo
richardhughes103@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo
richardhughes103@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@
wrote:
More cogently, we have to ask whether the research approach is
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo
richardhughes103@ wrote:
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@
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richardhughes103@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@
wrote:
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@
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richardhughes103@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
If that's the way some people choose to live their lives,
cool. Those of us who actually have subjective experiences
of interesting aspects of the
On Oct 25, 2006, at 4:08 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "hugheshugo" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ wrote: More cogently, we have to ask whether the research approach is really appropriate to the subject. Are
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
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richardhughes103@ wrote:
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@
wrote:
On Oct 25, 2006, at 6:46 AM, sparaig wrote:Allegedly, someone who is fully enlightened remembers all their past lives.Well usually not ALL, but very many. I know lamas who remember thousands of their past lives. My own theory is that the theory that explains unstressing found during meditation
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo
richardhughes103@ wrote:
snip
What part of ME isn't based on my physical brain?
Do you believe in reincarnation? I'm asking because
many (if not most) TMers do, yet
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
If that's the way some people choose to live their lives,
cool. Those of us who
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Oct 25, 2006, at 6:46 AM, sparaig wrote:
Allegedly, someone who is fully enlightened remembers all their
past lives.
Well usually not ALL, but very many. I know lamas who remember
thousands of their past lives.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
On Oct 25, 2006, at 6:46 AM, sparaig wrote:
Allegedly, someone who is fully enlightened remembers all their
past lives.
Well usually not ALL,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I seldom claim experiences, but I'm pretty sure I've
mentioned episodes of witnessing dreaming, witnessing
sleep and witnessing waking states. Additionally, I've
mentioned what I believe may have been a flash of Unity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Oct 25, 2006, at 4:08 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo
richardhughes103@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@
wrote:
More cogently, we have
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
On Oct 25, 2006, at 4:08 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo
richardhughes103@ wrote:
--- In
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wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo
richardhughes103@ wrote:
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo
richardhughes103@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
On Oct 25, 2006, at 4:08 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
--- In
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I just spent half an hour typing a reply to this but my computer
crashed when I pressed send, is that Karma?
Almost certainly. However, the deeper question in this
context is whether its memory persisted after its
On Oct 25, 2006, at 9:02 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:Oh yeah? prove it! As it turns out, there is a fairly simple way of proving this. And, as it turns out, you yourself will be one of the test subjects in the experiment, whether you want to be or not. Just pay attention to what happens at the
Precisely. The brain is merely the hardware of consciousness.
Fortunately for us, consciousness can exist separately from
that hardware.
Oh yeah? prove it!
As it turns out, there is a fairly simple way of
proving this. And, as it turns out, you yourself
will be one
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo
richardhughes103@ wrote:
I just spent half an hour typing a reply to this but my computer
crashed when I pressed send, is that Karma?
Almost certainly. However,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Precisely. The brain is merely the hardware of
consciousness.
Fortunately for us, consciousness can exist separately
from
that hardware.
Oh yeah? prove it!
As it turns out, there is a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo
richardhughes103@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ wrote:
More cogently, we have to ask whether the research approach is
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
On Oct 25, 2006, at 6:46 AM, sparaig wrote:
Allegedly, someone who is fully
Whenever I hear something like this, I find myself
wondering whether everyone who says it has completely
forgotten the Bardo experience, between death and
rebirth. Consciousness doesn't stop. It's there while
the body is lying dead in its coffin and the brain is
no longer functioning,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
On Oct 25,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo
richardhughes103@ wrote:
Whenever I hear something like this, I find myself
wondering
There we differ. I am skeptical of everyone else's
experiences (in the sense that I do not accept them
as either true or false, just what the person said
that they experienced). However, I am not skeptical
of my own personal subjective experiences. They are
about the *only* thing I trust. Your
Re: David Bruce Hughes on studying consciousness
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo
richardhughes103@ wrote:
Whenever I hear
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Precisely. The brain is merely the hardware of consciousness.
Fortunately for us, consciousness can exist separately from that
hardware.
Of course Consciouisness, the substratum of the universe, can exist
seperately
On Oct 25, 2006, at 10:14 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:Whenever I hear something like this, I find myself wondering whether everyone who says it has completely forgotten the Bardo experience, between death and rebirth. Consciousness doesn't stop. It's there while the body is lying dead in its coffin and
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
On Oct 25, 2006, at 6:46 AM, sparaig wrote:
Allegedly, someone who is fully
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
On Oct 25, 2006, at 6:46 AM, sparaig wrote:
Allegedly, someone who is fully enlightened remembers all their
past lives.
Well usually not ALL,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo
richardhughes103@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
Precisely. The brain is merely the hardware of consciousness.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo
richardhughes103@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
No one I've ever heard of in human history has
realized enlightenment without trusting in the
validity of their own experience.
And of the multi-trillion
On Oct 25, 2006, at 10:44 AM, new.morning wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Precisely. The brain is merely the hardware of consciousness. Fortunately for us, consciousness can exist separately from that hardware. Of course Consciouisness, the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Oct 25, 2006, at 9:02 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
Oh yeah? prove it!
As it turns out, there is a fairly simple way of
proving this. And, as it turns out, you yourself
will be one of the test subjects in the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Oct 25, 2006, at 10:44 AM, new.morning wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
Precisely. The brain is merely the hardware of consciousness.
Fortunately for us, consciousness
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Oct 25, 2006, at 10:44 AM, new.morning wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
Precisely. The brain is merely the hardware of consciousness.
Fortunately for us, consciousness
life-Bardo-life-Bardo-life-Bardo-life-Bardo-etc timeline purely an
illusion?
Yes, that's fully it! What is real is the foundation of all things as
timeless suchness, always infinitely refreshing itself. Thus death is really
the remembering of freshness. Death is life, and if we look
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In tantric physiology that is explained by the individual nadi
constitution of the individual. Everyones nadis are unique and
weave
based on how their mind flows. It is in this subtle physiology
that
the karmic
Thus the dakini signs - come this way sailor!
Is this the spiritual version of Hey sailor, new in town?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
life-Bardo-life-Bardo-life-Bardo-life-Bardo-etc timeline purely an
illusion?
Yes, that's fully it! What
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
On Oct 25, 2006, at 6:46 AM, sparaig wrote:
Allegedly, someone who is fully
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
I seldom claim experiences, but I'm pretty sure I've
mentioned episodes of witnessing dreaming, witnessing
sleep and witnessing waking states.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
On Oct 25, 2006, at 6:46 AM, sparaig wrote:
Allegedly, someone who is fully
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From a friend:
Dear Rick
I forwarded the tm article by Hebert and the comparison buddhist
study on to
David Bruce Hughes aka Gaurahari Dasanudas Bhaktisiddhartha or
Baba. I
thought he might find it interesting.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From a friend:
Dear Rick
I forwarded the tm article by Hebert and the comparison buddhist study on to
David Bruce Hughes aka Gaurahari Dasanudas Bhaktisiddhartha or Baba. I
thought he might find it interesting.
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