[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,

2006-08-25 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer wrote: > > > > > > on 8/25/06 1:21 AM, bob_brigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > > >>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,

2006-08-25 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer wrote: > > > > on 8/25/06 1:21 AM, bob_brigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > >> > But to claim that there is some current and persistent > government > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,

2006-08-25 Thread bob_brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 8/25/06 1:21 AM, bob_brigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > >> > But to claim that there is some current and persistent government > >> > campaign against the TMO without any evidence (and there is plenty > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,

2006-08-25 Thread hermandan0
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- Alex Stanley > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I don't usually remember my dreams, but I did the > > > other day. I dreamed > > > that I

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,

2006-08-25 Thread Peter
--- Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 8/25/06 11:21 AM, shempmcgurk at > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > >> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > >> > >> > , bob_brigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > wrote: > >> > > >> > [snip] > >> > > >>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,

2006-08-25 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet, on 8/25/06 11:21 AM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > , bob_brigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > [snip] > >> >> Hagelin and cronies

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,

2006-08-25 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "nablus108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > wrote: > > > > > > > > ---

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,

2006-08-25 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > > Hagelin and cronies are barring people from the dome for visiting > others seen as competition for the hearts and minds of TMers, but > Hagelin is proud of his association with Ramtha, was in a movie >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,

2006-08-25 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 8/24/06 4:45 PM, bob_brigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > How loopy is Ramtha?: > > > I have a friend who was in Ramtha for 8 years, and who left, as did many > others, when they all started drinking. The e

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,

2006-08-25 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante wrote: > > > But to claim that there is some current and persistent government > > campaign against the TMO without any evidence (and there is plenty > > of evide

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,

2006-08-25 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 8/25/06 1:21 AM, bob_brigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > >> > But to claim that there is some current and persistent government > >> > campaign against the TMO without any evidence (and there is plenty > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,

2006-08-25 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante > > wrote: > > > [snip] > > Well, Mr. Peanut, our beloved Prez Jimmy (my sister was a fai

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,

2006-08-25 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 8/25/06 5:40 AM, Robert Gimbel at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >> > (snip) > >> > "Are you suggesting that the largest new age organization of the 70's > >> > wasn't a target of the > >>> >> most fanatical evange

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,

2006-08-25 Thread nablus108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > I remain unco

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,

2006-08-25 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "L B Shriver" > > > wrote: > > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,

2006-08-25 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Carter may not have been a fan of new agey programs in > the 70s due to personal background and political pressures, > but that's very different from saying he ordered the CIA > to illegally focus on infiltratin

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,

2006-08-25 Thread markmeredith2002
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > Are you suggesting that the largest new age organization of the > > 70's wasn't a target of the most fanatical evangelical Christian > > president we'd e

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,

2006-08-25 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > I remain unconvinced that Carter is a good counter-example. > > > He's a pacifist, but he'

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,

2006-08-25 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In Fai

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,

2006-08-25 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In Fa

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,

2006-08-25 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 8/25/06 1:21 AM, bob_brigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > >> > But to claim that there is some current and persistent government > >> > campaign against the TMO without any evidence (and there is plenty > >>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,

2006-08-25 Thread curtisdeltablues
Pete, Don't be fooled by those Lithuainian's good-girls-singing-hymns act. In my dream those traditional outfits came off after one blender drink. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- Alex Stanley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > I don

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,

2006-08-25 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > > > Are you sug

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,

2006-08-25 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet, on 8/25/06 5:40 AM, Robert Gimbel at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >  (snip) > "Are you suggesting that the largest new age organization of the 70's > wasn't a target of the >> most fanatical evange

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,

2006-08-25 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- Alex Stanley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > I don't usually remember my dreams, but I did the > > other day. I dreamed > > that I was sitting in the kitchen, eating a shallow, > > wide bowl of > > cre

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,

2006-08-25 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't usually remember my dreams, but I did the other day. > I dreamed that I was sitting in the kitchen, eating a shallow, > wide bowl of cream soup, and Carrie, one of our little white > cats, was sitting *in* t

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,

2006-08-25 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet, on 8/25/06 1:21 AM, bob_brigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > But to claim that there is some current and persistent government > campaign against the TMO without any evidence (and there is plenty > of evidence that

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,

2006-08-25 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings > wrote: > > Carter was a fundie nut , just like bush and bin laden. > > Get a real perspective instead of the usual brainwashed american > > perspective. >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,

2006-08-25 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > Are you suggesting that the largest new age organization of the > > > 70's wasn't a ta

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,

2006-08-25 Thread Peter
--- Alex Stanley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I don't usually remember my dreams, but I did the > other day. I dreamed > that I was sitting in the kitchen, eating a shallow, > wide bowl of > cream soup, and Carrie, one of our little white > cats, was sitting *in* > the soup and bent over, li

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,

2006-08-25 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > Are you suggesting that the largest new age organization of the > > > 70's

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,

2006-08-25 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > Are you suggesting that the largest new age organization of the > > 70's wasn't a target of the most fanatical evangelical Christian > > president we'd e

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,

2006-08-25 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "L B Shriver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" wrote: > > Big snip > > >…My partner and I have been noticing > > among other things how the quality of our dreams has changed since > > the course began. I a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,

2006-08-25 Thread Robert Gimbel
(snip) "Are you suggesting that the largest new age organization of the 70's wasn't a target of the > most fanatical evangelical Christian president we'd ever had?" I know someone who worked for the Carter campaign, and he said that he felt that Jimmie, was a really spiritual guy. I always fel

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,

2006-08-25 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > Are you suggesting that the largest new age organization of the > > 70's wasn't a target of the most fanatical evangelical Christian > > president we'd

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,

2006-08-24 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But to claim that there is some current and persistent government > campaign against the TMO without any evidence (and there is plenty > of evidence that the govt gives millions to the TMO and MUM in grant > money,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,

2006-08-24 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Are you suggesting that the largest new age organization of the > 70's wasn't a target of the most fanatical evangelical Christian > president we'd ever had? Oh, PLEASE. Jimmy Carter is *not* a "fanatic" by any stretch

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,

2006-08-24 Thread bob_brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "L B Shriver" > > wrote: > > > Hagelin told me he had taken it as far as he was willing to take > it

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,

2006-08-24 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "L B Shriver" > > wrote: > > > Hagelin told me he had taken it as far as he was willing to take > it > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,

2006-08-24 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "L B Shriver" > wrote: > > Hagelin told me he had taken it as far as he was willing to take it > at this time, having > > recently "stuck his neck out" quite a lot. > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,

2006-08-24 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "L B Shriver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: < recently "stuck his neck out" quite a lot. > > I do not at this time feel any impulse toward further action, although that could change in > the future, of course. > > I promised myself when I was excommunicated

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,

2006-08-24 Thread bob_brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "L B Shriver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hagelin told me he had taken it as far as he was willing to take it at this time, having > recently "stuck his neck out" quite a lot. > That really sounds like a load -- Hagelin has made it c

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,

2006-08-24 Thread L B Shriver
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: snip > Well LB, it's good to be number 1 (VBG for the humor impaired). > I hope you're not really disappointed, and having fun. Well, I didn't make it to Woodstock, either, but I don't lay awake nights wo

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,

2006-08-24 Thread L B Shriver
Reply below. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- L B Shriver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "bmorry2000" > > wrote: > > > > > > "They are letting everyone in the dome--except > > LB." is exactly what > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,

2006-08-24 Thread L B Shriver
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Big snip …My partner and I have been noticing > among other things how the quality of our dreams has changed since > the course began. I also notice the effect of the course during my > meditation. Just a livelier

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,

2006-08-24 Thread off_world_beings
Lol ! David Hawthorne and Tim Britton got rejected?? !!! Ridiculous. Tim's bagpipes are not even of the loud kindthe Irish pipes are QUIET compared to the Scottish pipes that MMY loves (and I hate - scotsman) I do believe that they should let LBS into the dome...then...do an objective, doub

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,

2006-08-24 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "L B Shriver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "bmorry2000" wrote: > > > > "They are letting everyone in the dome--except LB." is exactly what > > I heard from my marginally on the program friends. > > snip > >

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,

2006-08-24 Thread Peter
--- Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 8/24/06 4:45 PM, bob_brigante at > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > How loopy is Ramtha?: > > > I have a friend who was in Ramtha for 8 years, and > who left, as did many > others, when they all started drinking. The entire > gang, JZ Knight includ

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,

2006-08-24 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet, on 8/24/06 4:45 PM, bob_brigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How loopy is Ramtha?: I have a friend who was in Ramtha for 8 years, and who left, as did many others, when they all started drinking. The entire gang, JZ Knight

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,

2006-08-24 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The cult/thought reform information was useful for me but it > may not be for everyone. There are ways to understand it > that don't involve seeing yourself as a victim. "[TM techniques] are the most sophisti

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,

2006-08-24 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > [...] > > > >After looking at a detailed report prepared by the major > >advocates of this perspective [including Singer--JS], the > >Americ

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,

2006-08-24 Thread curtisdeltablues
The cult/thought reform information was useful for me but it may not be for everyone. There are ways to understand it that don't involve seeing yourself as a victim. As a teacher my first instinct in learning about this aspect of groups was to decide that I couldn't ethically teach the system to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,

2006-08-24 Thread Peter
--- L B Shriver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "bmorry2000" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > "They are letting everyone in the dome--except > LB." is exactly what > > I heard from my marginally on the program friends. > > snip > > > > It's su

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,

2006-08-24 Thread Robert Gimbel
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > [...] > > > >After looking at a detailed report prepared by the major > >advocates of this perspective [including Singer--JS], the > >Americ

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,

2006-08-24 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thanks for the reply. Lifton and Singer established 8 > principles from their work with Korean war vets. I > don't know Lifton but did know the late Margret Singer. > She was fascinated by how some modern gro

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,

2006-08-24 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [...] > >After looking at a detailed report prepared by the major >advocates of this perspective [including Singer--JS], the >American Psychological Association concluded that the idea of >brainwashi

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,

2006-08-24 Thread Robert Gimbel
(snip) "I also think it comes down nowadays to a simple cost/benefit > analysis, like anything else. Is there enough benefit that I will > receive by involving myself with this organization vs. the cost, > monetary or otherwise, of associating with the organization?" I am sure the people runni

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,

2006-08-24 Thread bob_brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "L B Shriver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "bmorry2000" wrote: > > > > "They are letting everyone in the dome--except LB." is exactly what > > I heard from my marginally on the program friends. > > snip > > **

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,

2006-08-24 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > " presence in the Dome would be "disruptive". > > > Disruptive? " > > What is disrupted is Milieu Control. I'm sure everyone here is hip to > that Lifton concept. http://www.freeminds.org/psych/lifton.htm >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,

2006-08-24 Thread L B Shriver
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "bmorry2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "They are letting everyone in the dome--except LB." is exactly what > I heard from my marginally on the program friends. snip It's such a weird world. Apparently there are actually quite a few people sti

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,

2006-08-24 Thread bmorry2000
"They are letting everyone in the dome--except LB." is exactly what I heard from my marginally on the program friends. Sorry L.B. A lot of people still love you anyways! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "L B Shriver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Responses interleaved. > > --- In Fai

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,

2006-08-24 Thread curtisdeltablues
Thanks for the reply. Lifton and Singer established 8 principles from their work with Korean war vets. I don't know Lifton but did know the late Margret Singer. She was fascinated by how some modern groups had refined the techniques to become less obvious and more subtle. I think this is a case

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,

2006-08-24 Thread L B Shriver
Responses interleaved. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > " presence in the Dome would be "disruptive". > > > Disruptive? " > > What is disrupted is Milieu Control. I'm sure everyone here is hip to > that Lifton concept. http://www.freeminds

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,

2006-08-24 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > " presence in the Dome would be "disruptive". > > > Disruptive? " > > What is disrupted is Milieu Control. I'm sure everyone here > is hip to that Lifton concept. http://www.freeminds.org/psych/lifton.htm W

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,

2006-08-24 Thread curtisdeltablues
" presence in the Dome would be "disruptive". > > Disruptive? " What is disrupted is Milieu Control. I'm sure everyone here is hip to that Lifton concept. http://www.freeminds.org/psych/lifton.htm Since so many quality people have bailed on letting them work their mojo, it seems like they are j

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,

2006-08-24 Thread L B Shriver
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: major snip > Clearly you haven't thought all this through at all. That's true, and now that you mention it, I was a lot happier not thinking about it than thinking about it. L B S To subscr

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,

2006-08-24 Thread scienceofabundance
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > LBS, you obviously haven't been active here in the past year or you > would know the answers to all this. I mean have there been any > definitive studies on the effects of the bagpipe on a sidha's > brainwave

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,

2006-08-24 Thread markmeredith2002
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "L B Shriver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yeah, that "disruptive" thing is tough to figure out. They are claiming that it's the decisive > factor in "most" of the rejections, which totalled 16 when I first applied a couple of weeks > ago. I know 4 or 5 of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,

2006-08-23 Thread L B Shriver
Yeah, that "disruptive" thing is tough to figure out. They are claiming that it's the decisive factor in "most" of the rejections, which totalled 16 when I first applied a couple of weeks ago. I know 4 or 5 of them personally and still don't get it. For example, what's so fucking disruptive a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,

2006-08-23 Thread dhamiltony2k5
presence in the Dome would be "disruptive". Disruptive? Hah,it is about MOJO. Oh heck L B, Bevan just thinks you got more MOJO than Bevan or any Raja worth a million. It is pretty obvious. Yeah, you're just a weapon of mass destruction in their book. Best Regards fra FF, -Doug Oh BTW, L

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet, but…

2006-08-23 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "L B Shriver" > wrote: > > > There aren't many 'grass roots' left for changes > > > to arise from except the ground of Being > > > > > > > > Fortunatel

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet, but…

2006-08-23 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" > wrote: > > > Something is changing, > > snip > > > > > Forgive me for a seeming lack of 'cosmicallity' or subtleness but > I'll > > believe it when

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet, but…

2006-08-23 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "L B Shriver" > wrote: > > > > Reply below. > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000" > > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.co

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet, but…

2006-08-23 Thread lurkernomore20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Something is changing, snip > > > Forgive me for a seeming lack of 'cosmicallity' or subtleness but I'll > believe it when I see it. From a distance it seems like necessity is > driving any changes, not a change o

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet, but…

2006-08-23 Thread lurkernomore20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "L B Shriver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There aren't many 'grass roots' left for changes > > to arise from except the ground of Being > > > > Fortunately, that's the one that counts. > > L B S Good parry. L.B. in good form. lurk >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet, but…

2006-08-23 Thread bob_brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante wrote: . As MMY says, any group's leaders > > are merely footballs of the group's consciousness, and we can't > > expect any big improvement in Hagelin's behavior un

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet, but…

2006-08-23 Thread L B Shriver
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: snip … There aren't many 'grass roots' left for changes > to arise from except the ground of Being Fortunately, that's the one that counts. L B S To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTE

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet, but…

2006-08-23 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "L B Shriver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "L B Shriver" > > wrote: > > snip > > … Too early to say for sure how far or exactly what direction, > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet, but…

2006-08-23 Thread L B Shriver
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "L B Shriver" > wrote: snip … Too early to say for sure how far or exactly what direction, > but it's definitely > > shifting. > > > > L B S > > > > Forgive me for a see

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet, but…

2006-08-23 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "L B Shriver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Reply below. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "L B Shriver" > > wrote: > > > > > snip > > > > > > I even had some unexpecte

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet, but…

2006-08-23 Thread L B Shriver
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Good to hear from you L.B. I thought you had enough > good sense to stay away from FFL, I'm glad you don't > though! ;-) Surely you recognize the diagnosis, Dr Sutphen: temporary insanity. L B S > > > > ___

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet, but�

2006-08-23 Thread Peter
Good to hear from you L.B. I thought you had enough good sense to stay away from FFL, I'm glad you don't though! ;-) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a m

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet, but…

2006-08-23 Thread L B Shriver
Reply below. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "L B Shriver" > wrote: > > > snip > > > > I even had some unexpectedly positive interactions with Dr Hagelin, > and was sincerely > > impressed by h

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet, but…

2006-08-23 Thread wayback71
If people are actually having good experiences, consistently, and those not on the course finally get to see and hear about it - and believe it is not hype but genuine good meditation progress, then it will transform the TMO. People will forget all the bad feelings and return. People want

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet, but…

2006-08-23 Thread lurkernomore20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "L B Shriver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > snip > > I even had some unexpectedly positive interactions with Dr Hagelin, and was sincerely > impressed by his generally classy responses to my occasionally two- fisted assertions and > queries. The pendulum h

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,

2006-08-23 Thread L B Shriver
Reply below. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "L B Shriver" wrote: > > > > Dear Friends at FFLife, > > > > > "I was officially informed on Sunday that I am not considered eligible > at this time to > participate, after nearly a month of h

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet, but…

2006-08-23 Thread scienceofabundance
LBS: Thanks for the info and good luck to you, SAB --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "L B Shriver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dear Friends at FFLife, > > It's been awhile since I've had time or inclination to check in, but I thought it might be > useful to relate my experiences apply

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet,

2006-08-23 Thread dhamiltony2k5
"L B Shriver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dear Friends at FFLife, > > "I was officially informed on Sunday that I am not considered eligible at this time to participate, after nearly a month of having my application "in process"." > Of course not. They would have to eat way too much

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet, but…

2006-08-23 Thread off_world_beings
Sweet...glad to hear from you LB, and your objective assessment. I can't be bothered with going to Iowa again, but I feel maybe something even from here in Vermont (which is heaven on earth anyway, even at the worst of times). OffWorld --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "L B Shriver" <[

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell not quite frozen over yet, but…

2006-08-22 Thread bob_brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "L B Shriver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dear Friends at FFLife, > > It's been awhile since I've had time or inclination to check in, but I thought it might be > useful to relate my experiences applying for the current superradiance course in progress