Re: [farsiweb] New Membet

Hello everyone, I've just been informed that my friend Saber has told you all about my project. He did this with the best of intentions but without my knowledge. Believe me, I did not want to get you people who are working so hard on font development and unicode problems to be bothered with my sma

[farsiweb] weft

Have any of you managed to use WEFT with Persian fonts? This seems like a good solution [i.e. concealing!} the final "yeh" with dots & the "heh + yeh" looking like ta marbuta problems which you get with the core fonts (like Tahoma, Times New Roman, etc.) WEFT 3 is available at: http://www.microso

[farsiweb] weft

Thanks to Arash and Omid for your responses. I would love to get this working... > dependent, not because it is too complicated, but because the font > doesn't allow embeding. I also think so and although Weft tells you whether embedding is "permissible" for each font on your webpage, it doesn't

[farsiweb] weft

> or if the feature is > disabled in the font how could we enable it) please > inform us, to make the needed changes. Here is what the Weft developer told me to tell those of you who are making fonts: "They need to set the font's 'fstype' value, which is located in the font's OS2 table. You can

[farsiweb] NESF font

> Just wait for our new set of 'standard' fonts, with embedded bitmaps, > which will start with Terrific (FarsiWeb's Traffic). Sounds terrific :) I don't know how elaborate a font you are making but if feasible, it would be so nice if you could include in your font all the Perso-Arabic subsets o

Re: [farsiweb] NESF font

> We lack the resources for hinting and drawing bitmaps for all of those. > But we would love any contribution. Just wait for the fonts to be > released. Thanks Roozbeh. I didn't mean to sound (too) greedy and impatient! I just wanted to make sure you know there really is a need for some of the

[farsiweb]heh + yeh

Hi, Correct, historically it was a small "yeh" above the "heh" which gradually started looking more like a "hamzeh". This 2-in-1 character evolved out of the needs of the Persian "ezafe" construction. (Arabic does have something called an idafa construction but it is entirely different. Therefore

[farsiweb]Farsi, heh, +, hamzeh, above

> > The > > purpose of such standards should not be to tell people how to write > > Farsi. People decide how to write Farsi. The standard should encode > > and standardize what people write. Exactly! Is it not crazy that word processors are being made to *emulate* old-fashioned typewriters which

[farsiweb]heh + hamze

> In the English language, this > glottal stop (or rather plosive) occurs only at the beginning of words which > begin with a vowel, like {a,e,i,o,u}, therefore it is not represented by a > separate character. Check out a word like "butter": Subcontinental pronunciation: battar North American pro

[farsiweb]heh + hamzeh

> For example, the > number {7} in the Farsi character set and in the Arabic character sets look > identical in appearance, but have different code numbers assigned to them > (i.e. 06F7 and 0667 respectively). Is this true? This is hard to believe. I wonder why? Seems a bit extravagant but then t

Re: [farsiweb]Re: Farsi

> > faqih>. They have nothing to offer to the Persian IT and language discusion. > > Would you please be more explicit, and provide a list of names? > > roozbeh Don't be mad at Abi. Be mad at the people who aren't mad that in this day and age one can't type Persian properly. Get the list of name

[farsiweb]heh + hamzeh

> Ok, it seems that we are seeing a lot of monolouges here. I'm sure more people than just me are finding the monologues educational however, Abi, please give Roozbeh the floor as we'd like to hear the promised summary. Roozbeh, can you please tell us about this "normalization" and why the mention

Re: [farsiweb]heh + hamzeh

> thing. He may look at the charts, and he will either choose U+06D5, or > (HEH, HAMZA ABOVE), I guess you mean U+0654. In any case, neither is acceptable. The hamzeh ends up really high above the heh depending on the font. > The first time I found this, I asked Unicode people for changing the >

Re: [farsiweb]heh + hamzeh

> not specify anything about broken fonts, or fonts that are not suitable > for some purpose or other. I was checking it with Arial MS Unicode, Tahoma. > solution, if it's non-stnadard. After all, Persian support is far from > complete and stable in Windows and Internet Explorer. Yes, I can only

Re: [farsiweb]heh + hamzeh

> They needed to represent the shape in CP1256. They figured that TEH > MARBUTA is similiar in joining behaviour, and replaced the glyphs in the > fonts. Thank you. I'm learning a lot here! > (If I were > doing that in their time, I would have used DAMMATAN, drawing a HAMZA > ABOVE as a replacem

Re: [farsiweb]heh + hamzeh

> So they could > only replace an Arabic letter with a Persian one. So they replaced Arabic > Kaf with Persian Kaf, Arabic Yeh with Farsi Yeh, but we seem to have both Kaf and Gaf without problem.There they've added, not replaced. (I won't bring up the yeh.at least for now!) __

Re: [farsiweb]heh + hamzeh

> I'm talking about Arabic Kaf (U+0643) vs Persian Kaf (U+06A9). Gaf was > already there in CP1256. Oh. They already had Gaf in the Arabic. I guess some Arabic dialects do have that sound. Or did they include Gaf for the sake of Persian and didn't get around to heh+hamze? ___

Re: [farsiweb]heh + hamzeh

> BTW, it was a shock for me to see Feh with three dots below and Qaf with > three dots above in frequent use in Tunisia. Yeah! I know! But I suppose that's better than no dots at all like they used to have in early Arabic. Now, one more question then enough of this shab zendeh-daari for you (it

Re: [farsiweb]heh + hamzeh

> font editor like FontLab and some OpenType headache, you should be able to > fix them yourself. But if you are not in a hurry, just wait a little more > for our fonts. (I'm sorry for all the promising and nothing released, but > at least you've seen the screenshot.) ok, but promise you'll put t

Re: [farsiweb]heh + hamzeh

> should be able to get every character we have defined in the standard we > prepared. To get Heh+Hamza working you may need Windows XP or Office XP > (I'm not sure, but we will test and announce). I see the Heh+hamza comes at a price! Hopefully Office XP since WinXP is still a rarity at least ar

[farsiweb]Re: How To Become A Hacker

> (BTW, there is also some good points there that relate to recent > discussions on the lists. All similarities are accidental!) > Roozbeh, Maybe you'll find these articles from the Weft forum interesting. They also relate to the recent discussion. (Nice to hear there are languages worse off than

[farsiweb]Some sorting problems

> 2. The Waw(U-0648) is after the 'Heh' (U-0647). > I have no idea for the second > problem. > Thanks for posting this problem! I have been wondering what effect the fact that the Arabic and Persian alphabets have different ORDER of letters would have on all this. Now I got my answer! (And of c

Re: [farsiweb]Farsi Sorting

> to the Heh-Waw problem. They actually check the Arabic order first, and > sometimes find that the list is really in Persian order!" This seems like a good case where putting the could serve a useful purpose. > But about people doing this, everyone should have an additional filter for > sortin

Re: [farsiweb]Farsi Sorting

On Sun, 7 Jul 2002, Roozbeh Pournader wrote: > I have written a sort specification table for GNU C Library, which has > been distributed with Red Hat Linux since 7.1. When I want to sort > something, I use that (we don't use Windows machines as servers). > > Just tell me to post instructions to u

Re: [farsiweb]Farsi Sorting

Actually, upon persual of this handy php tutorial, http://www.php.net/tut.php it does seem within the realm of possibility for me to get such a thing implemented on my website. What lengths one has to go to in order to make a Persian webpage!! If you folks who've already figured out the trick can

Re: [farsiweb]Farsi Sorting

ok! I did not think about all these things! Thank you for the info! > The codes for > Persian Kaf and Yeh (called "Keheh" and "Farsi Yeh" in Unicode) are also Who invented the term "keheh"? > Programming, asking to implement how librarians do sorting: They sort > "2001: A Space Odyssey" in "T",

Re: [farsiweb]Farsi Sorting

> Actually, it said they only put it in "T". According to Library of Congress and British Library cataloging rules, they are SUPPOSED to cross reference. What some lazy librarians may actually do in practice is another matter! In this case, he may also have found the title in question by looking

Re: [farsiweb]Farsi Sorting

> for Filing Catalog Cards* (Chicago, 1942): > [...] Well, the rule nowadays is that there MUST at least be an entry under "2001" since that is the actual title. Thank goodness the days of card catalogs are overwell, mostly over! > and "al-" > is ignored in Arabic names. ...

Re: [farsiweb]Farsi Sorting

> Sorry Connie for being so late in replying... No problem! > > Oh, I meant if on one page you have both! > I can't understand. You have a sample somewhere? I personally have only Persian for now but just wanted to know for the future. It looked like the patch that people were talking about earl

[farsiweb]Re: the two ye and how they may be differentiated

Ali, The Word doc problem is not just limited to the 2 yeh's in Persian. I've sent Persian Word docs to people using various versions of Windows (without anyone deliberately changing any settings) and several letters have been transposed from the recipient's point of view. As for web pages, it ap

[farsiweb]Re: unicode fields in database

Suggestion: Instead of someone new asking every 3 months "how can I sort Persian?", why doesn't one of you who is technically astute please compile all these sorting patches and put them in one place with a description of bugs and features of each and some step-by-step instructions on how to imple

Re: [farsiweb]Re: unicode fields in database

> I will be able to put any such HOWTO on the FarsiWeb web site, OK! We'll add that to Roozbeh's [fast-growing] list of chores :) > The young generation are clearly taught about the main order. I guess the clever youngsters will learn to double check both places lest they miss out on the stuff a

Re: [farsiweb]YEH problem decision

On Fri, 14 Mar 2003, Roozbeh Pournader wrote: > The YEH problem in Windows SHOULD be fixed be installing new fixed fonts. Speaking of Windows, I have heard unsubstantiated reports that even with WinXP, the "yeh" (06CC--on the "d" key) works great in some editing programs such as Word but even on t

Re: [farsiweb]YEH problem decision

On Fri, 14 Mar 2003, Roozbeh Pournader wrote: > That will be correct if you replace with "when using other fonts". That's what one would think but I'm told it happens with same font. If I get more info, I'll report. > http://corefonts.sourceforge.net/ I took a look. It looks fair but not le

Re: [farsiweb]YEH problem decision

> You can't revoke a license by not just providing the software anymore. A lot of software starts out free and buggy then over time, becomes a viable commercial product and not for free. However, the people who did pay money for defective fonts should definitely be allowed to get the corrected fon

Re: [farsiweb]YEH problem decision

> For making sure you won't scare newbies, Oh, thank you! You are finally catching on that when it comes to us newbies, nothing can be left to chance!! Thanks also to the person(s) who made all these fonts available. I realize I might have sounded ungrateful when in fact, any and all efforts to he

Re: [farsiweb]YEH problem decision

> On Fri, 14 Mar 2003, C Bobroff wrote: > > I will probably just put a link to http://corefonts.sourceforge.net/ to > > help those in need now that I even know it exists. OK, Mr Connie genius managed to take a look at the sourceforge downloads and guess what, no TimesNewRoma

Re: [farsiweb]YEH problem decision

On Sat, 15 Mar 2003, Roozbeh Pournader wrote: > There is Times New Roman there. The file is named 'times32.exe'. I guess > you missed it. I didn't *miss* it. I thought it was a different font. I stand corrected. You're also right that it was on the free downloads page which can still be viewed her

Re: [farsiweb]YEH problem decision

Special thanks are in order to Andrew Cunningham who'd already made this page a while back but I only noticed just this second: http://www.openroad.net.au/support/notes/persian.html Very nice! -Connie ___ FarsiWeb mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:

Re: [farsiweb]YEH problem decision

I just heard from Paul at Microsoft. They don't care if the fonts from the removed typography page are distributed however, you should know they are not the most recent editions. At least the Yeh is correct though. That was our main concern. -Connie _

[farsiweb]Re: [PersianComputing] Unicode character names (was Re: UnicodeAdvertisement)

> and a requirement of ISO > that the names stay the same forever, even if mistakes are found in them. > Standards need to guarantee stabilities to some degree in order to be > implemented, and character names looked one of the promising cases. I see now! Thank you once again for the enlightenmen

[farsiweb] Re: [PersianComputing] Persian Keyboard Layout Preview

> Attached file [.pdf] is preview of New Persian Keyboard layout preview. Thanks. That's very helpful. Must have taken quite some time to make! What is the character on alt+control+d ? It's putting me in footnote mode. Possibly related to the fact I don't have MS Arial Unicode (or whatever it's

[farsiweb] Re: [PersianComputing] Persian Keyboard Layout Preview

> > What is the character on alt+control+d? > It's the Arabic Alef Maksura. For cases you just need a "dandaane" in the > middle of a word. Almost always Koranic quotes. I also have only heard of Alif Maksura used in Arabic only in Final position, never in initial, medial or isolated. Please give

Re: [farsiweb] Re: [PersianComputing] Persian Keyboard Layout Preview

> If you can't take my word, I can go and search a Koran next time I went > home. I don't have a Koran in the office. And you wouldn't want to check any online Koran sites since that seems to always entail getting your inbox filled with spam from Nigeria as a consequence! I just love those! > Gu

Re: [farsiweb] Re: [PersianComputing] Persian Keyboard Layout Preview

> Who are you addressing here? A fontmaker that is planning to support the > whole Unicode Arabic range? She/he will definitely support them. But a > fontmaker who is only interested in one language? Why in hell should > she/he support them? Hey, it's the Persian poets who liked to engage in tajni

Re: [farsiweb] Re: [PersianComputing] Persian Keyboard Layout Preview

> What if a fontmaker doesn't care about all those linguistics-only needs, > and wants to give his mates just some support for their language proper, > as used in modern times, and only in official letters? Good point. Glad I'm keeping my jpeg-making software handy. _

RE: [farsiweb] New keyboard layout for Windows

> I am not quite sure in which context standalone > versions of maddah, hamzah above and hamzah below are used, but assume > they are there because they are in the Unicode standard. In a textbook, you might want to say, "This here is a maddah". In the past, I wanted to show what a superscript al

RE: [farsiweb] New keyboard layout for Windows

> You should put them either over a space, or a Tatweel (U+0640, the base > line extender that looks like a '_'). > Just over a space is fine but the font should be able to render it and the fontmakers don't always know what all people may want to type. If the fontmakers see it's a character on t

RE: [farsiweb] New keyboard layout for Windows

> Depends on how you define "easy". Try! If you don't redefine your concept of "easy", people are going to say it's too hard to bother with this script and that's why they advocate romanizing Persian. Do you know just to enable FA input on a Windows machine is asking too much for newbies? You sho

RE: [farsiweb] Re: [PersianComputing] Persian Keyboard Layout Preview

(This is why I found the dotless initial form on your draft > keyboard difficult to interpret.) Oh! Is THAT what that was. ___ FarsiWeb mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sharif.edu/mailman/listinfo/farsiweb

RE: [farsiweb] Re: [PersianComputing] Persian Keyboard Layout Preview

> An exhausted roozbeh An exhausted but euphoric Roozbeh? Admit it, you're enjoying every minute! ___ FarsiWeb mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sharif.edu/mailman/listinfo/farsiweb

RE: [farsiweb] Re: [PersianComputing] Persian Keyboard Layout Preview

> The visa won't get ready until Monday morning either. Just in case the visa doesn't come Monday, you might consider making a transliterated keyboard layout for those occasional Persian typists used to the English keyboard. -Connie ___ FarsiWeb maili

RE: [farsiweb] Re: [PersianComputing] Persian Keyboard Layout Preview

> The visa won't get ready until Monday morning either. So I'm getting more > frustrated, and I stick more to work. The whole reason I came to office > today was to read possible emails on what happened with the visa. No, I've alerted all the embassies of the world not to issue you any more visas

RE: [farsiweb] Re: [PersianComputing] Persian Keyboard Layout Preview

> If you mean > the software, it took about half an hour or a little more because of the > nice MS tool for its creation. Yes, that's what I meant and it took YOU half an hour but would have taken me and the silent lurkers weeks or possibly never so thank you. And did I hear you say, "nice MS too

Re: [PersianComputing] RE: [farsiweb] New keyboard layout for Windows

> > I may help you with information from ALA-LC (American Library > > Association/Library of Congress) containing exact lists of characters, > > alongside with standard transliterations, for all languages you are > > interested in. For whatever they're worth, they're here as PDF files: http://www

RE: [farsiweb] New keyboard layout for Windows

> No, no Nastaliq font. It's not the default for Persian anymore. People > have a hard time reading Nastaliq for anything longer than a few words. OK, bye-bye Nastaliq for Persian. But I mean Persian Naskh or Naskhi as opposed to Arabic Naskh. I wish there were a precise term to differentiate the

Re: [PersianComputing] Koodak font: alpha release

There is already a font called Koodak. Won't users (and their computers) have a problem when they THINK they are seeing this font but it's really the old one? It won't occur to them to download the new one. -Connie On Thu, 7 Aug 2003, Roozbeh Pournader wrote: > As part of a set of TTF fonts we a

Re: Unicode in new IRNA site

> ... so many > sites are using wrong characters. It certainly affects the search > engines. Hehe. The humans don't seem to notice but the search engines balk. Seems like it should be the reverse! By the way, this is yet another reason I offer up thanks to Roozbeh, Behnam (and others) for the new

Re: Unicode in new IRNA site

> What should we do about this? Go stand up on your roof and shout: "The fonts have been repaired! It's now ok to use Arabic Letter Farsi Yeh U+06CC!!" But as far as I know, BBC has never been one of the offenders although I'm too lazy at the moment to check that and the other site mentioned ear

Re: Unicode in new IRNA site

> Well, thank the original designers of ISIRI 2901:1994. Thank you! Hey, is there any chance Behnam can be coaxed into making a transliterated keyboard based on the English layout? Not for me personally, mind you. It appears to be a highly sought after accessory and I keep getting inquiries. Behna

Re: Unicode in new IRNA site

> If you use Yahoo Messenger and care about Persian Yeh support, do it > yourself. If you don't, somebody who cares will do so eventually. If > nobody does so, it means nobody cares. OK, I took up your challenge and just emailed Yahoo. Don't blame me when we discover they've replaced Arabic Yeh wi

Re: Unicode in new IRNA site

> I don't like it. I wasn't challenging you. 'Was challenging the silent > lurkers. Oops! I just couldn't stop myself...was on a roll! -Connie ___ FarsiWeb mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sharif.edu/mailman/listinfo/farsiweb

Re: Unicode in new IRNA site

> Behdad's Law: Connie is an optimist. If you please! You need to trust Mr. Connie Genius on this one and keep the faith. This is just a case of public awareness. As long as you don't notice those dots, everything is blissful. Maybe they are just stray marks? Maybe your screen just needs cleaning?

Re: Unicode in new IRNA site

> They do get under the skin, yes, but it's a little worse than that if > you start seeing the two little dots everyday on announcements, > printouts, ads, ... It will get to your {maghz-e ostekhaan}. Oh dear! You sound like an advanced case. I will schedule you for a bone-marrow transplant right

Re: Unicode in new IRNA site

> You know, everybody who's caring and sane enough to proofread, makes > sure these don't appear on paper (or sometimes on the computer screen), > but again, not all of these people care what it is that's stored in > their computers. On the other hand, how much time it looks like they put into the

Re: Unicode in new IRNA site

> > By the way, I just visited the BBC Persian site. In one article they were > > using the Arabic Kaf and in another the Persian Keheh. > > It should be called the Persian Kaf. Keheh is just a random identifier, > but the best available since it's the Unicode name. So, either "Persian > Kaf" or "K

Re: FarsiWeb Digest, Vol 4, Issue 9

> On Tue, 2003-09-30 at 16:38, Behnam wrote: > > But in the meantime, do you know where is the "small Alef" for > > putting on the Final Yeh (in "hattaa" for example) or Farsi Hamza > > (Yeh-e-raabet) that we put on the final Heh in this standard layout? I > > couldn't find them anywhere. For futu

Re: persian-language.org

On Sun, 5 Oct 2003, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: > Was googling around, found the above site by chance. Uhh, what site? -Connie ___ FarsiWeb mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sharif.edu/mailman/listinfo/farsiweb

Re: persian-language.org

> > On Sun, 5 Oct 2003, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: > Hey Mr Connie Genius, > The subject line ;). > http://www.persian-language.org/ Hehe. It's not for nothin' I'm called "Mr Connie Genius"! Yeah, I knew what was coming as I was treated to those 2 beautiful final dots of "farsi" in the of the page lo

Re: persian-language.org

> Ever considered having a nick name of Joe? See: "Mr Joe Genius". Those Qazvini's really like my name and I've had a lot of fun with it, and it has generated much laughter and good-will, therefore it stays. > Tell them you are going to put them in your black list if they > don't act in 24 hours.

Re: persian-language.org

> They *could* be instructed. Google is very bad in linguistics, specially > when considering Persian. Oh? So they ARE supposed to be equal and the problem is with Google and not with those tables. I'm greatly relieved! Next question: Why hasn't Google been instructed? How can we give it a refre

Re: [PersianComputing] Re: SOLVED: Button translation

> Isn't this only about *English* button labels? I was going to ask the same thing... -Connie ___ FarsiWeb mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sharif.edu/mailman/listinfo/farsiweb

Re: [PersianComputing] Re: SOLVED: Button translation

> Missing anything? Behdad, I think it's best we leave the high-faluttin grammatical stuff like "infinitive" and "imperative" to Amr and Zayd :) The person who wrote that article definitely didn't have Persian in mind. In Persian there is much greater overlap in both form and function than Englis

Re: Font Problem (fwd)

> I have heared that incompatibility with unicode in such fonts cause these > problem. Payam, I don't think it's related to incompatibility with unicode. I have XP and after all the critical updates all my Persian fonts are working fine. Hopefully you can just download and install the fonts again.

Re: Font Problem (fwd)

> You goofed Connie. Forgot that there are zillions of different > versions of those fonts? Beggin' your pardon but I did not goof! How could I possibly forget there are zillions of different versions?! However, they all have one thing in common and that is that they aren't unicode compliant and

Re: Font Problem (fwd)

As I said, I have many non-unicode compliant fonts on my XP and they were not affected by the critical updates so perhaps something else is involved. Next question: What are all these font packages we are suddenly hearing about? I only know about Farsiweb's Koodak which I thought was under constru

Re: Embeding farsi font for web pages

Sadeq, The secret is that the font must have embedding permission enabled. You can check permissions on the font with this free tool: http://www.microsoft.com/typography/property/property.htm The Farsiweb Koodak font will work although that is still under construction. I'm guessing Mehran's font

Re: decimal point

> On Sat, 2003-10-25 at 20:15, Payam Poursaied wrote: > > I'm realy intestet to know why it is set to use comma "," instead of slash > > "/" for persian decimal point (decimal seperator)? > "What" is set to do that? For the correct decimal separator behaviour, > see ISIRI 6219 at >

Re: Embeding farsi font for web pages

> On Sat, 2003-10-25 at 09:14, C Bobroff wrote: > > I'm guessing Mehran's fonts mentioned earlier today will > > also work and if so, that will be great since they are unicode-compliant. > No, the fonts Merhan pointed to are not Unicode compliant. The only > Unic

Trick or Treat!!

Hi Everyone, We are celebrating Halloween over here this weekend so I've prepared a real SCARY treat for you: BBC Persian site as seen on Mac OS X. students.washington.edu/irina/MacOSX_IE5.2.gif students.washington.edu/irina/MacOSX_Moz1.4.gif students.washington.edu/irina/MacOSX_Safari1.0.gif W

Re: Trick or Treat!!

> Not to mention many more people with names starting or ending with "beh"! > (like Connie for example !!) Now that is the one fault I don't have! Maybe one from among BEHnam (A and B), BEHdad, RoozBEH could change his name to Joe?? > > pretty simple to hack a workaround in the Mozilla codebase.

Re: Trick or Treat!!

> A friend of mine in Italy has Panther installed and he told me that > everything on his browser is now appearing normal with the exception of > dotted Yeh, which I don't think is related to the same issue. If that's the case, try this page: http://www.macridesweb.com/oltest/translateWord.html

Re: Trick or Treat!!

FYI. Looks like Panther doesn't do diacritics. -Connie -- Forwarded message -- 1) Date: 05 Oct 2003 From:Frederic Lagrange <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject:Mac OS X 10.3 Panther and Arabic read my article (in French) on Mac OS 10.3 and Arabic at http://www.macgeneration.com/mgnews/c

Re: Proud To be An Iranian

Shahram, Not meaning to pick on you personally, but why have you used Arabic Letter Kaf (0643) and Arabic Letter Yeh (064A) on your website? I'm truly, honestly asking out of curiosity. Were the Arabic letters already mapped to your keyboard or did you reprogram it yourself? Maybe you didn't not

Re: What the hell is this "Yeh" and "Keheh" problem?

On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, AmirBehzad Eslami wrote: > , but Win9x users > cannot view the "Yeh (U+06CC)" and "Keheh (U+06A9)" correctly, because of an > old version of -default installed- Fonts like Tahoma. How about if some nice person posts some screenshots of BBC's Persian page as seen on both Win98

Re: What the hell is this "Yeh" and "Keheh" problem?

BEHzad, > You're right, BBC solves the "Yeh" and "Keh" for all users, Actually, the only reason I suggested BBC in the first place was because I thought they were using Persian characters only! Only after looking at your gifs did I go back and have a second, more carefull look and found to my sur

Re: What the hell is this "Yeh" and "Keheh" problem?

> Another alternative story: Let's say the writer of the page likes to > say: "Don't use Arabic Yehs like 'ي', use Persian Yehs like 'ی'."? BEHzad, please find a way to make the Arabic remain Arabic if the webmaster has intentionally typed Arabic. Maybe it's time to start using those AR and FA lan

Re: Trick or Treat!!

BEHnam, Another for you from the Arabic-L list. (I'm also glad to see someone else noting that what is SMALL fontsize in English is WAY TOO SMALL in Perso-Arabic.) -Connie -Messages--- 1) Date: 17 Nov 2003 From:Albrecht Hofheinz <[EMAIL PRO

Re: Project to solve Farsi contents problems on the Web

> Dear Roozbeh and Mr. Connie (strange name!), You may just call me Connie unless you are flaming me in which case, "Mr Connie Genius" is recommended. > Do you know why? Because they never found a good article about such topics > in magazines, books, and even FarsiWeb.info. Guess they didn't think

Re: Le Monde diplomatique this time

Hey Joe, What were we supposed to be interested in here? Is it the good news that you have discovered the world's first Persian webpage with "charset=utf-8" instead of "charset=windows-1256" (those French are making great improvements!) Or did you want to point out those 2 dots we like to discuss?

Re: Le Monde diplomatique this time

On Sat, 22 Nov 2003, Mehran Mehr wrote: > Connie Bobroff is an [Israelian] Jewish? Nope. I'm a pious mullah from Qazvin. Sorry if you somehow understood something political in what was basically a joke aimed at Joe. (We need a little humor sometimes, you know.) Anyhow, thanks for the reminder

Re: Le Monde diplomatique this time

>Well, I hereby ask > you to contact them and resolve Persian issues including but not > limited to those too balls, oops dots. Jr Joe Jenius is a polo player? ___ FarsiWeb mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sharif.edu/mailman/listinfo/farsiweb

Re: Le Monde diplomatique this time

> No flame fest recently. Actually was more flirting than war ;). I'm just glad Saber didn't get flamed for not reading the archives. (You really got lucky, Saber!) And if you liked Le Monde, just wait till Behd^H^H^H Joe presents the next featured website: it's on the Michael Jackson child moles

Re: FarsiWeb Digest, Vol 7, Issue 1

On Sat, 6 Dec 2003, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: > he confessed that he > never knew that Farsi and Persian are the same word in two > different languages. Just let us know when we can start saying "Deutsch," "francais," "nihon-go," etc as well as "farsi" when speaking English. They are all the "right"

Re: FarsiWeb Digest, Vol 7, Issue 1

> Perhaps no one knew the answer. Really. > roozbeh Oh! I hadn't thought of that possibility. -Connie ___ FarsiWeb mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sharif.edu/mailman/listinfo/farsiweb