Re: [Felvtalk] Ringworm.
Hey nice to know about Gary - On Dec 21, 2013, at 4:05 AM, wrote: > I have always used the Walmart brand (Equate) cream for foot fungus and it > has worked very well. Not messy and doesn’t smell bad and is cheap. > > Gary > > From: Margo > Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 5:01 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Ringworm. > > LymDyp. > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Ringworm.
I have always used the Walmart brand (Equate) cream for foot fungus and it has worked very well. Not messy and doesn’t smell bad and is cheap. Gary From: Margo Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 5:01 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Ringworm. LymDyp. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Re: [Felvtalk] ringworm
I use the Equate (walmart) brand of antifungal footcreme, not messy, doesn’t smell bad, cheap, and best of all it works. Gary From: Westninthst Sent: Sunday, September 01, 2013 12:07 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ringworm PROGRAM IS A PILL FOR FLEAS. BUT RIGHT IT CURES RINGWORM TOO..ALSO ANY HUMAN FOOT FUNGUS CREAM CURES RING WORM. Sent via my Samsung Transform™ Ultra from Boost Mobile Heather wrote: ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] ringworm
Topically. NEVER use gentian violet internally. It would be like swallowing Preparation H only worse. > > From: Heather >To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" >Cc: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" >Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 9:32 PM >Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ringworm > > > >How does a human use Genetian violet for RW, internally or topically? > >Sent from my iPhone > >On Aug 31, 2013, at 2:58 PM, "Gloria B. Lane" wrote: > > > >> >>I'm on Digest version of this list, and it's not easy to reply... but I >>learned about Gentian Violet when I was a kid, and it worked great for >>ringworm - mine was on my hand. I've since used it on cats when appropriate >>and it worked. I generally use Golden Seal tincture (from the health food >>store, about $8), as it works well and isn't purple. But have used Malaseb >>shampoo and it worked well. I don't use Grisiofulvin since it's systemic, >>unless it's a bad case of ringworm - has a Persian like that so did use the >>Grisiofulvin. >> >> >>I read up on Advantage Multi a while back, and didn't like some of the >>reports of it - so I never use Advantage Multi. >> >> >>Cheers, >> >> >>Gloria >> >> >> >> >>>>>> >>>From: Catherine Chang >>>>>> >>>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>>>>> >>>Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 11:48 PM >>>>>> >>>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ringworm >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>>Hi felv friends, >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>>I was away from emails for several days, so I am not sure whether bathing >>>options has been mentioned in this thread about ringworm. If they been >>>mentioned, please skip this email. If not, here they are: >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>>I know 2 shampoos can eliminate ringworm very effectively by just bathing >>>the cat (or just his/her infected area) twice a week. >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>>1. Malaseb shampoo: it contains 2% Miconazole which can treat ringworm very >>>effectively. It is available on Amazon. >>>>>> >>>2. Nizoral Shampoo: it is a human dandruff shampoo made with Ketoconazole. >>>The 1% version can be obtained in drug stores. Although taking Ketoconazole >>>by mouth could make cat lethargy, such side effect is less seen when only >>>using it by bathing as far as I know. There is also a pet version of 2% >>>Ketoconazole shampoo, but you will need a prescription to get that. >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>>hope it helps. >>>>>> >>>catherine >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>> >> >___ >>Felvtalk mailing list >>Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >___ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > >___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] ringworm
my doctor painted it on my scalp Heather wrote: > How does a human use Genetian violet for RW, internally or topically? > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 31, 2013, at 2:58 PM, "Gloria B. Lane" wrote: > > > > > I'm on Digest version of this list, and it's not easy to reply... but I > > learned about Gentian Violet when I was a kid, and it worked great for > > ringworm - mine was on my hand. I've since used it on cats when > > appropriate and it worked. I generally use Golden Seal tincture (from the > > health food store, about $8), as it works well and isn't purple. But have > > used Malaseb shampoo and it worked well. I don't use Grisiofulvin since > > it's systemic, unless it's a bad case of ringworm - has a Persian like that > > so did use the Grisiofulvin. > > > > I read up on Advantage Multi a while back, and didn't like some of the > > reports of it - so I never use Advantage Multi. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Gloria > > > > > >>>>> > >>>>> From: Catherine Chang > >>>>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >>>>> Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 11:48 PM > >>>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ringworm > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Hi felv friends, > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> I was away from emails for several days, so I am not sure whether > >>>>> bathing options has been mentioned in this thread about ringworm. If > >>>>> they been mentioned, please skip this email. If not, here they are: > >>>>> > >>>>> I know 2 shampoos can eliminate ringworm very effectively by just > >>>>> bathing the cat (or just his/her infected area) twice a week. > >>>>> > >>>>> 1. Malaseb shampoo: it contains 2% Miconazole which can treat ringworm > >>>>> very effectively. It is available on Amazon. > >>>>> 2. Nizoral Shampoo: it is a human dandruff shampoo made with > >>>>> Ketoconazole. The 1% version can be obtained in drug stores. Although > >>>>> taking Ketoconazole by mouth could make cat lethargy, such side effect > >>>>> is less seen when only using it by bathing as far as I know. There is > >>>>> also a pet version of 2% Ketoconazole shampoo, but you will need a > >>>>> prescription to get that. > >>>>> > >>>>> hope it helps. > >>>>> catherine > > > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] ringworm
PROGRAM IS A PILL FOR FLEAS. BUT RIGHT IT CURES RINGWORM TOO..ALSO ANY HUMAN FOOT FUNGUS CREAM CURES RING WORM. Sent via my Samsung Transform™ Ultra from Boost Mobile Heather wrote: How does a human use Genetian violet for RW, internally or topically? Sent from my iPhone On Aug 31, 2013, at 2:58 PM, "Gloria B. Lane" wrote: I'm on Digest version of this list, and it's not easy to reply... but I learned about Gentian Violet when I was a kid, and it worked great for ringworm - mine was on my hand. I've since used it on cats when appropriate and it worked. I generally use Golden Seal tincture (from the health food store, about $8), as it works well and isn't purple. But have used Malaseb shampoo and it worked well. I don't use Grisiofulvin since it's systemic, unless it's a bad case of ringworm - has a Persian like that so did use the Grisiofulvin. I read up on Advantage Multi a while back, and didn't like some of the reports of it - so I never use Advantage Multi. Cheers, Gloria From: Catherine Chang To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 11:48 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ringworm Hi felv friends, I was away from emails for several days, so I am not sure whether bathing options has been mentioned in this thread about ringworm. If they been mentioned, please skip this email. If not, here they are: I know 2 shampoos can eliminate ringworm very effectively by just bathing the cat (or just his/her infected area) twice a week. 1. Malaseb shampoo: it contains 2% Miconazole which can treat ringworm very effectively. It is available on Amazon. 2. Nizoral Shampoo: it is a human dandruff shampoo made with Ketoconazole. The 1% version can be obtained in drug stores. Although taking Ketoconazole by mouth could make cat lethargy, such side effect is less seen when only using it by bathing as far as I know. There is also a pet version of 2% Ketoconazole shampoo, but you will need a prescription to get that. hope it helps. catherine ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] ringworm
How does a human use Genetian violet for RW, internally or topically? Sent from my iPhone On Aug 31, 2013, at 2:58 PM, "Gloria B. Lane" wrote: > > I'm on Digest version of this list, and it's not easy to reply... but I > learned about Gentian Violet when I was a kid, and it worked great for > ringworm - mine was on my hand. I've since used it on cats when appropriate > and it worked. I generally use Golden Seal tincture (from the health food > store, about $8), as it works well and isn't purple. But have used Malaseb > shampoo and it worked well. I don't use Grisiofulvin since it's systemic, > unless it's a bad case of ringworm - has a Persian like that so did use the > Grisiofulvin. > > I read up on Advantage Multi a while back, and didn't like some of the > reports of it - so I never use Advantage Multi. > > Cheers, > > Gloria > > >>>>> >>>>> From: Catherine Chang >>>>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>>>> Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 11:48 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ringworm >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi felv friends, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I was away from emails for several days, so I am not sure whether bathing >>>>> options has been mentioned in this thread about ringworm. If they been >>>>> mentioned, please skip this email. If not, here they are: >>>>> >>>>> I know 2 shampoos can eliminate ringworm very effectively by just bathing >>>>> the cat (or just his/her infected area) twice a week. >>>>> >>>>> 1. Malaseb shampoo: it contains 2% Miconazole which can treat ringworm >>>>> very effectively. It is available on Amazon. >>>>> 2. Nizoral Shampoo: it is a human dandruff shampoo made with >>>>> Ketoconazole. The 1% version can be obtained in drug stores. Although >>>>> taking Ketoconazole by mouth could make cat lethargy, such side effect is >>>>> less seen when only using it by bathing as far as I know. There is also a >>>>> pet version of 2% Ketoconazole shampoo, but you will need a prescription >>>>> to get that. >>>>> >>>>> hope it helps. >>>>> catherine > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] ringworm
I'm on Digest version of this list, and it's not easy to reply... but I learned about Gentian Violet when I was a kid, and it worked great for ringworm - mine was on my hand. I've since used it on cats when appropriate and it worked. I generally use Golden Seal tincture (from the health food store, about $8), as it works well and isn't purple. But have used Malaseb shampoo and it worked well. I don't use Grisiofulvin since it's systemic, unless it's a bad case of ringworm - has a Persian like that so did use the Grisiofulvin. I read up on Advantage Multi a while back, and didn't like some of the reports of it - so I never use Advantage Multi. Cheers, Gloria >>>> >>>> From: Catherine Chang >>>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>>> Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 11:48 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ringworm >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi felv friends, >>>> >>>> >>>> I was away from emails for several days, so I am not sure whether bathing >>>> options has been mentioned in this thread about ringworm. If they been >>>> mentioned, please skip this email. If not, here they are: >>>> >>>> I know 2 shampoos can eliminate ringworm very effectively by just bathing >>>> the cat (or just his/her infected area) twice a week. >>>> >>>> 1. Malaseb shampoo: it contains 2% Miconazole which can treat ringworm >>>> very effectively. It is available on Amazon. >>>> 2. Nizoral Shampoo: it is a human dandruff shampoo made with Ketoconazole. >>>> The 1% version can be obtained in drug stores. Although taking >>>> Ketoconazole by mouth could make cat lethargy, such side effect is less >>>> seen when only using it by bathing as far as I know. There is also a pet >>>> version of 2% Ketoconazole shampoo, but you will need a prescription to >>>> get that. >>>> >>>> hope it helps. >>>> catherine >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] ringworm
SHE DOES HAVE CUTE ANIMAL VI\DEOS Lee Evans wrote: > Definitely agree with you Margo. Even for humans. My mom used to toss all > sorts of herbal pills and capsules at me to improve anything and everything. > It improved mostly nothing. However, I do use echinacea on occasion when I > think I have been exposed to the flu or some other icky virus. However, there > is a holistic homeopathic/allopathic veterinarian in my area who has at times > treated a cat or two of mine with herbal medications, but under close > supervision and with the warning that if I see anything that worries me to > phone him right away. This is OK because he uses herbs just like he would use > any other medication. Incidentally I would not trust Dr. Becker to treat a > cockroach. Snake oil anyone? > > From: Margo >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 6:22 AM >Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ringworm > > > > I avoid any and all essential oils for cats. Dogs and humans can >metabolize them, cats can't. They lack a liver enzyme needed to process the >oils. I get very annoyed seeing substances containing essential oils touted as >"safe" for cats because they're "natural". > > Cinnamon oil is particularly high in phenols, which are considered >harmful to cats. > >http://essentialoilworld.com/essentialoilreviews/pet-health/essential-oil-safety-with-cats > > This is from a site that SELLS essential oils, but states some are >not safe for cats. > > This is my favorite site addressing the use of essential oils around >cats, and again, they sell them... > >http://www.thelavendercat.com/ > > I use Advantage on my non-FeLV cats and their dogfriends, and it >seems to keep the flea population under control on everyone. > > It's up to each catslave what they choose to control those annoying >little bloodsuckers, but just thought I'd give another point of view. Natural >does not mean safe. > >Margo > > > >-Original Message- >>From: dlg...@windstream.net >>Sent: Aug 28, 2013 11:35 PM >>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ringworm >> >>I don't like the commercial flea drops at all. My cats have all had a >>reaction to them. I found an herbal one on Dr. Becker's site (Mercola site). >> It has cinnamon and other "natural" ingredients. The cats were not too >>happy with it at first, I think mostly because the cinnamon smell is pretty >>strong when it first goes on, but at least they have not had any adverse >>reactions to it. This includes my remaining FELV, Annie. >> >> >> trustinhi...@charter.net wrote: >>> I just wanted to share that I put Advantage-multi drops on my felv+ cat, >>Pookie, in june and a week later there appear 1 then 2 puffy lumps on >>his back between his spine. They disappeared after a few weeks after >>intense intervention with syringe feeding of vitamins and nutrients. He >>then went into a period of running a fever and not eating or drinking. >>He was placed on Baytril for two weeks. The fever left and he started to >>eat and drink, but then developed a mouth sore. So he wasn't eating or >>drinking again. I have learned to be very sure when pilling that the >>pill actually goes down. I suspect one was lodged under his tongue and >>may have caused the mouth sore. I finally took him to a holistic vet and >>she has been giving him acupuncture. Within 24 hours he was eating and >>drinking again. She said the toughest needle to get in was in his nose >>(controls appetite), but he went from running a temp to a cold nose in >>one day. I also gave him some "Clin drops" leftover from another cats >>mouth abcess for a few days. His mouth sore healed. He has had 3 >>acupunture treatments and is back to his old self. He is also getting >>some immune support herbs - one is called Wei Qi. He is 6 1/2 and has >>fought off the virus before when he was 2. I just want to caution others >>that these flea preps are strong and may not be good for Felv+ kitties. >>Carolyn >> >> >>On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Lee Evans wrote: >> >>> With FeLv+ cats or any cats for that matter, it's always good to get >>> the vet's opinion on what shampoo to use or not. Remember that some >>> residue of the shampoo may be absorbed through the cat's skin. If you >>> want to know more about cat diseases (or cattle, pig, horse, rabbit or >>> anything disases) you can
Re: [Felvtalk] ringworm
Definitely agree with you Margo. Even for humans. My mom used to toss all sorts of herbal pills and capsules at me to improve anything and everything. It improved mostly nothing. However, I do use echinacea on occasion when I think I have been exposed to the flu or some other icky virus. However, there is a holistic homeopathic/allopathic veterinarian in my area who has at times treated a cat or two of mine with herbal medications, but under close supervision and with the warning that if I see anything that worries me to phone him right away. This is OK because he uses herbs just like he would use any other medication. Incidentally I would not trust Dr. Becker to treat a cockroach. Snake oil anyone? > > From: Margo >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 6:22 AM >Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ringworm > > > > I avoid any and all essential oils for cats. Dogs and humans can >metabolize them, cats can't. They lack a liver enzyme needed to process the >oils. I get very annoyed seeing substances containing essential oils touted as >"safe" for cats because they're "natural". > > Cinnamon oil is particularly high in phenols, which are considered >harmful to cats. > >http://essentialoilworld.com/essentialoilreviews/pet-health/essential-oil-safety-with-cats > > This is from a site that SELLS essential oils, but states some are >not safe for cats. > > This is my favorite site addressing the use of essential oils around >cats, and again, they sell them... > >http://www.thelavendercat.com/ > > I use Advantage on my non-FeLV cats and their dogfriends, and it >seems to keep the flea population under control on everyone. > > It's up to each catslave what they choose to control those annoying >little bloodsuckers, but just thought I'd give another point of view. Natural >does not mean safe. > >Margo > > > >-Original Message- >>From: dlg...@windstream.net >>Sent: Aug 28, 2013 11:35 PM >>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ringworm >> >>I don't like the commercial flea drops at all. My cats have all had a >>reaction to them. I found an herbal one on Dr. Becker's site (Mercola site). >> It has cinnamon and other "natural" ingredients. The cats were not too >>happy with it at first, I think mostly because the cinnamon smell is pretty >>strong when it first goes on, but at least they have not had any adverse >>reactions to it. This includes my remaining FELV, Annie. >> >> >> trustinhi...@charter.net wrote: >>> I just wanted to share that I put Advantage-multi drops on my felv+ cat, >>Pookie, in june and a week later there appear 1 then 2 puffy lumps on >>his back between his spine. They disappeared after a few weeks after >>intense intervention with syringe feeding of vitamins and nutrients. He >>then went into a period of running a fever and not eating or drinking. >>He was placed on Baytril for two weeks. The fever left and he started to >>eat and drink, but then developed a mouth sore. So he wasn't eating or >>drinking again. I have learned to be very sure when pilling that the >>pill actually goes down. I suspect one was lodged under his tongue and >>may have caused the mouth sore. I finally took him to a holistic vet and >>she has been giving him acupuncture. Within 24 hours he was eating and >>drinking again. She said the toughest needle to get in was in his nose >>(controls appetite), but he went from running a temp to a cold nose in >>one day. I also gave him some "Clin drops" leftover from another cats >>mouth abcess for a few days. His mouth sore healed. He has had 3 >>acupunture treatments and is back to his old self. He is also getting >>some immune support herbs - one is called Wei Qi. He is 6 1/2 and has >>fought off the virus before when he was 2. I just want to caution others >>that these flea preps are strong and may not be good for Felv+ kitties. >>Carolyn >> >> >>On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Lee Evans wrote: >> >>> With FeLv+ cats or any cats for that matter, it's always good to get >>> the vet's opinion on what shampoo to use or not. Remember that some >>> residue of the shampoo may be absorbed through the cat's skin. If you >>> want to know more about cat diseases (or cattle, pig, horse, rabbit or >>> anything disases) you can go to www.merckmanuals.com and click on The >>> Merck Veterinary Manual. They list everything t
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It also won't kill fleas. It may repel them for a while but unless you vacuum your floors every day, treat with diatomaceous earth and flea comb every one of them, they are going to be hopping in no time. In addition, a sad tail I can tell about "natural" flea treatments is my cat Teddy, now only a memory but when he was with me, I used a lemon oil and herbal based flea remedy that was "guaranteed" to rid my cat of flea problems. What it did rid him of was a nice swatch of fur on the back of his neck with a matching skin burn from the horrid stuff. The flea stuff cost much more than regular flea remedies and cost me several vet visits until Teddy's neck healed. I wrote the company a scathing letter demanding my money back and telling them to take the crap off the market but they refused to do either. I'm not a great proponent of herbal flea treatments after that experience. > > From: "dlg...@windstream.net" >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 10:35 PM >Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ringworm > > >I don't like the commercial flea drops at all. My cats have all had a reaction >to them. I found an herbal one on Dr. Becker's site (Mercola site). It has >cinnamon and other "natural" ingredients. The cats were not too happy with it >at first, I think mostly because the cinnamon smell is pretty strong when it >first goes on, but at least they have not had any adverse reactions to it. >This includes my remaining FELV, Annie. > > > trustinhi...@charter.net wrote: >> I just wanted to share that I put Advantage-multi drops on my felv+ cat, >Pookie, in june and a week later there appear 1 then 2 puffy lumps on >his back between his spine. They disappeared after a few weeks after >intense intervention with syringe feeding of vitamins and nutrients. He >then went into a period of running a fever and not eating or drinking. >He was placed on Baytril for two weeks. The fever left and he started to >eat and drink, but then developed a mouth sore. So he wasn't eating or >drinking again. I have learned to be very sure when pilling that the >pill actually goes down. I suspect one was lodged under his tongue and >may have caused the mouth sore. I finally took him to a holistic vet and >she has been giving him acupuncture. Within 24 hours he was eating and >drinking again. She said the toughest needle to get in was in his nose >(controls appetite), but he went from running a temp to a cold nose in >one day. I also gave him some "Clin drops" leftover from another cats >mouth abcess for a few days. His mouth sore healed. He has had 3 >acupunture treatments and is back to his old self. He is also getting >some immune support herbs - one is called Wei Qi. He is 6 1/2 and has >fought off the virus before when he was 2. I just want to caution others >that these flea preps are strong and may not be good for Felv+ kitties. >Carolyn > > >On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Lee Evans wrote: > >> With FeLv+ cats or any cats for that matter, it's always good to get >> the vet's opinion on what shampoo to use or not. Remember that some >> residue of the shampoo may be absorbed through the cat's skin. If you >> want to know more about cat diseases (or cattle, pig, horse, rabbit or >> anything disases) you can go to www.merckmanuals.com and click on The >> Merck Veterinary Manual. They list everything there. It's really >> wonderful. If you want to know about a particular medication you are >> told to use, go to www.drugs.com and type "cat medication" in the >> search area. Everything is listed in alphabetical order. You will >> discover that Malaseb is for dogs and horses. You might want to hold >> off using this on a cat or kitten. Ketochlor and other shampoos that >> begin with Keto- should be used only under the recommendation of a >> veterinarian. This one forms a coating of the substance on the cat's >> skin and lasts long after the shampoo has been used, according to the >> information on drugs.com. >> I'm not sure that shampooing a cat is for everyone. I tried it once or >> twice. What I got was a mass of soap bubbles and foam with ears and >> eyes, racing around the house, screaching and snarling. Getting a cat >> to stand around for 5 to 10 minutes while the shampoo works, as >> advised in the information, is sooo not realistic. If you do want to >> shampoo, notify your next of kin first. Incidentally, it was a flea >> shampoo I used on an adult cat who was usually Mr. Charming but turned >> into a vampire the minute the water and
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I avoid any and all essential oils for cats. Dogs and humans can metabolize them, cats can't. They lack a liver enzyme needed to process the oils. I get very annoyed seeing substances containing essential oils touted as "safe" for cats because they're "natural". Cinnamon oil is particularly high in phenols, which are considered harmful to cats. http://essentialoilworld.com/essentialoilreviews/pet-health/essential-oil-safety-with-cats This is from a site that SELLS essential oils, but states some are not safe for cats. This is my favorite site addressing the use of essential oils around cats, and again, they sell them... http://www.thelavendercat.com/ I use Advantage on my non-FeLV cats and their dogfriends, and it seems to keep the flea population under control on everyone. It's up to each catslave what they choose to control those annoying little bloodsuckers, but just thought I'd give another point of view. Natural does not mean safe. Margo -Original Message- >From: dlg...@windstream.net >Sent: Aug 28, 2013 11:35 PM >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ringworm > >I don't like the commercial flea drops at all. My cats have all had a reaction >to them. I found an herbal one on Dr. Becker's site (Mercola site). It has >cinnamon and other "natural" ingredients. The cats were not too happy with it >at first, I think mostly because the cinnamon smell is pretty strong when it >first goes on, but at least they have not had any adverse reactions to it. >This includes my remaining FELV, Annie. > > > trustinhi...@charter.net wrote: >> I just wanted to share that I put Advantage-multi drops on my felv+ cat, >Pookie, in june and a week later there appear 1 then 2 puffy lumps on >his back between his spine. They disappeared after a few weeks after >intense intervention with syringe feeding of vitamins and nutrients. He >then went into a period of running a fever and not eating or drinking. >He was placed on Baytril for two weeks. The fever left and he started to >eat and drink, but then developed a mouth sore. So he wasn't eating or >drinking again. I have learned to be very sure when pilling that the >pill actually goes down. I suspect one was lodged under his tongue and >may have caused the mouth sore. I finally took him to a holistic vet and >she has been giving him acupuncture. Within 24 hours he was eating and >drinking again. She said the toughest needle to get in was in his nose >(controls appetite), but he went from running a temp to a cold nose in >one day. I also gave him some "Clin drops" leftover from another cats >mouth abcess for a few days. His mouth sore healed. He has had 3 >acupunture treatments and is back to his old self. He is also getting >some immune support herbs - one is called Wei Qi. He is 6 1/2 and has >fought off the virus before when he was 2. I just want to caution others >that these flea preps are strong and may not be good for Felv+ kitties. >Carolyn > > >On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Lee Evans wrote: > >> With FeLv+ cats or any cats for that matter, it's always good to get >> the vet's opinion on what shampoo to use or not. Remember that some >> residue of the shampoo may be absorbed through the cat's skin. If you >> want to know more about cat diseases (or cattle, pig, horse, rabbit or >> anything disases) you can go to www.merckmanuals.com and click on The >> Merck Veterinary Manual. They list everything there. It's really >> wonderful. If you want to know about a particular medication you are >> told to use, go to www.drugs.com and type "cat medication" in the >> search area. Everything is listed in alphabetical order. You will >> discover that Malaseb is for dogs and horses. You might want to hold >> off using this on a cat or kitten. Ketochlor and other shampoos that >> begin with Keto- should be used only under the recommendation of a >> veterinarian. This one forms a coating of the substance on the cat's >> skin and lasts long after the shampoo has been used, according to the >> information on drugs.com. >> I'm not sure that shampooing a cat is for everyone. I tried it once or >> twice. What I got was a mass of soap bubbles and foam with ears and >> eyes, racing around the house, screaching and snarling. Getting a cat >> to stand around for 5 to 10 minutes while the shampoo works, as >> advised in the information, is sooo not realistic. If you do want to >> shampoo, notify your next of kin first. Incidentally, it was a flea >> shampoo I used on an
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Love it! Sounds pretty close to my bathing xperiences. I owuld also suggest you arrange with the nearest hospital for 1 or 2 units of blood, you may need it. Lee Evans wrote: > That was the first really good laugh I had in a month. Thanks. > > From: Margo >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 2:08 PM >Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ringworm > > > > >How to Bathe Your 1) First …. dress for the occasion. A 4-ply rubber wet suit is suggested, along with a helmet, face mask and welders gloves. >>2) A Bathtub with a glass enclosure is preferred to the one with a shower >>curtain. A frenzied cat can shred one of these in about 3.5 seconds. >>3) Have the Kitty Bubbles and towel in the enclosed bathtub area beforehand. >>No… blow drying the cat after the bath is not suggested. >>4) Draw the water, making it a little warmer than needed as you still need to >>find the cat. Position everything strategically in the shower, so you can >>reach it even if you are face down or prone in the tub. >>5) Find your cat. Use the element of surprise. Pick the cat up, nonchalantly >>as if you were simply carrying him/her to the supper dish. No need to worry >>about the cat noticing your strange attire, the cat barely notices you anyway. >>6) Once you and the cat are inside the bathroom speed is essential. In one >>single fluid motion shut the door to the bathroom, step into the shower, >>close the sliding doors, and drop the cat into the water. While the cat is >>still in a state of shock locate the Kitty Bubbles and squirt whatever part >>of him is above the water line. You have just begun the wildest 45 seconds of >>your life. Remember that cats have no handles and add the fact that he now >>has soapy fur. His state of shock has worn off and he’s madder than hell. >>7) As best you can, wearing welder’s gloves, try to field his body as he >>catapults through the air toward the ceiling. If possible, give another >>squirt of Kitty Bubbles with his body now fully exposed. >>8) During the 5 seconds you are able to hold onto him, rub vigorously. No >>need to worry about rinsing. As he slides down the glass enclosure into the >>tub, he will fall back into the water, rinsing himself in the process. >>9) Only attempt the lather and rinse process about 3 times. The cat will >>realize the lack of traction on the glass by then and will use the next >>attempt on the first available part of you. >>10) Next, the cat must be dried. No, this is NOT the easiest part. By this >>stage, you are worn out and the cat has just become semi-permanently affixed >>to your right leg. We suggest here that you drain the tub and in full view of >>your cat, reach for the bottle of Kitty Bubbles. >>11) If you have done step 10 correctly, the cat will be off your leg and >>hanging precariously from your helmet. Although this view of the cat is most >>disgusting, he will be in a much better position for wrapping the towel >>around him. >>12) Be sure cat is firmly wrapped in towel before opening tub enclosure. Open >>bathroom door. Put towel-wrapped cat on floor and step back quickly. Into >>tub, if possible, and do not open enclosure until all you can see is the >>shredded towel. >>13) In about 2 hours, it will be safe to exit the bathroom. Your cat will be >>sitting out there somewhere looking like a small hedgehog while plotting >>revenge. But doesn’t he smell better? >> >> >>-Original Message- >>From: Lee Evans >>Sent: Aug 27, 2013 12:59 PM >>To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" >>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ringworm >> >> >>With FeLv+ cats or any cats for that matter, it's always good to get the >>vet's opinion on what shampoo to use or not. Remember that some residue of >>the shampoo may be absorbed through the cat's skin. If you want to know more >>about cat diseases (or cattle, pig, horse, rabbit or anything disases) you >>can go to www.merckmanuals.com and click on The Merck Veterinary Manual. They >>list everything there. It's really wonderful. If you want to know about a >>particular medication you are told to use, go to www.drugs.com and type "cat >>medication" in the search area. Everything is listed in alphabetical order. >>You will discover that Malaseb is for dogs and horses. You might want to hold >>off using this on a cat or kitten. Ketochlor and other shampoos that begin >>with Keto- should be used only under the recommendation of a veterinarian. >>This one forms a coating of th
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I don't like the commercial flea drops at all. My cats have all had a reaction to them. I found an herbal one on Dr. Becker's site (Mercola site). It has cinnamon and other "natural" ingredients. The cats were not too happy with it at first, I think mostly because the cinnamon smell is pretty strong when it first goes on, but at least they have not had any adverse reactions to it. This includes my remaining FELV, Annie. trustinhi...@charter.net wrote: > I just wanted to share that I put Advantage-multi drops on my felv+ cat, Pookie, in june and a week later there appear 1 then 2 puffy lumps on his back between his spine. They disappeared after a few weeks after intense intervention with syringe feeding of vitamins and nutrients. He then went into a period of running a fever and not eating or drinking. He was placed on Baytril for two weeks. The fever left and he started to eat and drink, but then developed a mouth sore. So he wasn't eating or drinking again. I have learned to be very sure when pilling that the pill actually goes down. I suspect one was lodged under his tongue and may have caused the mouth sore. I finally took him to a holistic vet and she has been giving him acupuncture. Within 24 hours he was eating and drinking again. She said the toughest needle to get in was in his nose (controls appetite), but he went from running a temp to a cold nose in one day. I also gave him some "Clin drops" leftover from another cats mouth abcess for a few days. His mouth sore healed. He has had 3 acupunture treatments and is back to his old self. He is also getting some immune support herbs - one is called Wei Qi. He is 6 1/2 and has fought off the virus before when he was 2. I just want to caution others that these flea preps are strong and may not be good for Felv+ kitties. Carolyn On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Lee Evans wrote: > With FeLv+ cats or any cats for that matter, it's always good to get > the vet's opinion on what shampoo to use or not. Remember that some > residue of the shampoo may be absorbed through the cat's skin. If you > want to know more about cat diseases (or cattle, pig, horse, rabbit or > anything disases) you can go to www.merckmanuals.com and click on The > Merck Veterinary Manual. They list everything there. It's really > wonderful. If you want to know about a particular medication you are > told to use, go to www.drugs.com and type "cat medication" in the > search area. Everything is listed in alphabetical order. You will > discover that Malaseb is for dogs and horses. You might want to hold > off using this on a cat or kitten. Ketochlor and other shampoos that > begin with Keto- should be used only under the recommendation of a > veterinarian. This one forms a coating of the substance on the cat's > skin and lasts long after the shampoo has been used, according to the > information on drugs.com. > I'm not sure that shampooing a cat is for everyone. I tried it once or > twice. What I got was a mass of soap bubbles and foam with ears and > eyes, racing around the house, screaching and snarling. Getting a cat > to stand around for 5 to 10 minutes while the shampoo works, as > advised in the information, is sooo not realistic. If you do want to > shampoo, notify your next of kin first. Incidentally, it was a flea > shampoo I used on an adult cat who was usually Mr. Charming but turned > into a vampire the minute the water and soap hit him. This was before > I found out about Capstar and Frontline Plus, many moons ago. > > > > > >> ____ >> From: Catherine Chang >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 11:48 >> PM >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ringworm >> >> >> >> Hi felv friends, >> >> I was away from emails for several days, so I am not sure whether >> bathing options has been mentioned in this thread about ringworm. If >> they been mentioned, please skip this email. If not, here they are: >> I know 2 shampoos can eliminate ringworm very effectively by just >> bathing the cat (or just his/her infected area) twice a week. >> 1. Malaseb shampoo: it contains 2% Miconazole which can treat >> ringworm very effectively. It is available on Amazon. 2. Nizoral >> Shampoo: it is a human dandruff shampoo made with Ketoconazole. The >> 1% version can be obtained in drug stores. Although taking >> Ketoconazole by mouth could make cat lethargy, such side effect is >> less seen when only using it by bathing as far as I know. There is >> also a pet version of 2% Ketoconazole shampoo, but you will need a >> prescription to get that. >> hope it helps. >> catherine >
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I just wanted to share that I put Advantage-multi drops on my felv+ cat, Pookie, in june and a week later there appear 1 then 2 puffy lumps on his back between his spine. They disappeared after a few weeks after intense intervention with syringe feeding of vitamins and nutrients. He then went into a period of running a fever and not eating or drinking. He was placed on Baytril for two weeks. The fever left and he started to eat and drink, but then developed a mouth sore. So he wasn't eating or drinking again. I have learned to be very sure when pilling that the pill actually goes down. I suspect one was lodged under his tongue and may have caused the mouth sore. I finally took him to a holistic vet and she has been giving him acupuncture. Within 24 hours he was eating and drinking again. She said the toughest needle to get in was in his nose (controls appetite), but he went from running a temp to a cold nose in one day. I also gave him some "Clin drops" leftover from another cats mouth abcess for a few days. His mouth sore healed. He has had 3 acupunture treatments and is back to his old self. He is also getting some immune support herbs - one is called Wei Qi. He is 6 1/2 and has fought off the virus before when he was 2. I just want to caution others that these flea preps are strong and may not be good for Felv+ kitties. Carolyn On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Lee Evans wrote: With FeLv+ cats or any cats for that matter, it's always good to get the vet's opinion on what shampoo to use or not. Remember that some residue of the shampoo may be absorbed through the cat's skin. If you want to know more about cat diseases (or cattle, pig, horse, rabbit or anything disases) you can go to www.merckmanuals.com and click on The Merck Veterinary Manual. They list everything there. It's really wonderful. If you want to know about a particular medication you are told to use, go to www.drugs.com and type "cat medication" in the search area. Everything is listed in alphabetical order. You will discover that Malaseb is for dogs and horses. You might want to hold off using this on a cat or kitten. Ketochlor and other shampoos that begin with Keto- should be used only under the recommendation of a veterinarian. This one forms a coating of the substance on the cat's skin and lasts long after the shampoo has been used, according to the information on drugs.com. I'm not sure that shampooing a cat is for everyone. I tried it once or twice. What I got was a mass of soap bubbles and foam with ears and eyes, racing around the house, screaching and snarling. Getting a cat to stand around for 5 to 10 minutes while the shampoo works, as advised in the information, is sooo not realistic. If you do want to shampoo, notify your next of kin first. Incidentally, it was a flea shampoo I used on an adult cat who was usually Mr. Charming but turned into a vampire the minute the water and soap hit him. This was before I found out about Capstar and Frontline Plus, many moons ago. From: Catherine Chang To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 11:48 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ringworm Hi felv friends, I was away from emails for several days, so I am not sure whether bathing options has been mentioned in this thread about ringworm. If they been mentioned, please skip this email. If not, here they are: I know 2 shampoos can eliminate ringworm very effectively by just bathing the cat (or just his/her infected area) twice a week. 1. Malaseb shampoo: it contains 2% Miconazole which can treat ringworm very effectively. It is available on Amazon. 2. Nizoral Shampoo: it is a human dandruff shampoo made with Ketoconazole. The 1% version can be obtained in drug stores. Although taking Ketoconazole by mouth could make cat lethargy, such side effect is less seen when only using it by bathing as far as I know. There is also a pet version of 2% Ketoconazole shampoo, but you will need a prescription to get that. hope it helps. catherine -- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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That was the first really good laugh I had in a month. Thanks. > > From: Margo >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 2:08 PM >Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ringworm > > > > >How to Bathe Your 1) First …. dress for the occasion. A 4-ply rubber wet suit is suggested, along with a helmet, face mask and welders gloves. >>2) A Bathtub with a glass enclosure is preferred to the one with a shower >>curtain. A frenzied cat can shred one of these in about 3.5 seconds. >>3) Have the Kitty Bubbles and towel in the enclosed bathtub area beforehand. >>No… blow drying the cat after the bath is not suggested. >>4) Draw the water, making it a little warmer than needed as you still need to >>find the cat. Position everything strategically in the shower, so you can >>reach it even if you are face down or prone in the tub. >>5) Find your cat. Use the element of surprise. Pick the cat up, nonchalantly >>as if you were simply carrying him/her to the supper dish. No need to worry >>about the cat noticing your strange attire, the cat barely notices you anyway. >>6) Once you and the cat are inside the bathroom speed is essential. In one >>single fluid motion shut the door to the bathroom, step into the shower, >>close the sliding doors, and drop the cat into the water. While the cat is >>still in a state of shock locate the Kitty Bubbles and squirt whatever part >>of him is above the water line. You have just begun the wildest 45 seconds of >>your life. Remember that cats have no handles and add the fact that he now >>has soapy fur. His state of shock has worn off and he’s madder than hell. >>7) As best you can, wearing welder’s gloves, try to field his body as he >>catapults through the air toward the ceiling. If possible, give another >>squirt of Kitty Bubbles with his body now fully exposed. >>8) During the 5 seconds you are able to hold onto him, rub vigorously. No >>need to worry about rinsing. As he slides down the glass enclosure into the >>tub, he will fall back into the water, rinsing himself in the process. >>9) Only attempt the lather and rinse process about 3 times. The cat will >>realize the lack of traction on the glass by then and will use the next >>attempt on the first available part of you. >>10) Next, the cat must be dried. No, this is NOT the easiest part. By this >>stage, you are worn out and the cat has just become semi-permanently affixed >>to your right leg. We suggest here that you drain the tub and in full view of >>your cat, reach for the bottle of Kitty Bubbles. >>11) If you have done step 10 correctly, the cat will be off your leg and >>hanging precariously from your helmet. Although this view of the cat is most >>disgusting, he will be in a much better position for wrapping the towel >>around him. >>12) Be sure cat is firmly wrapped in towel before opening tub enclosure. Open >>bathroom door. Put towel-wrapped cat on floor and step back quickly. Into >>tub, if possible, and do not open enclosure until all you can see is the >>shredded towel. >>13) In about 2 hours, it will be safe to exit the bathroom. Your cat will be >>sitting out there somewhere looking like a small hedgehog while plotting >>revenge. But doesn’t he smell better? >> >> >>-Original Message- >>From: Lee Evans >>Sent: Aug 27, 2013 12:59 PM >>To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" >>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ringworm >> >> >>With FeLv+ cats or any cats for that matter, it's always good to get the >>vet's opinion on what shampoo to use or not. Remember that some residue of >>the shampoo may be absorbed through the cat's skin. If you want to know more >>about cat diseases (or cattle, pig, horse, rabbit or anything disases) you >>can go to www.merckmanuals.com and click on The Merck Veterinary Manual. They >>list everything there. It's really wonderful. If you want to know about a >>particular medication you are told to use, go to www.drugs.com and type "cat >>medication" in the search area. Everything is listed in alphabetical order. >>You will discover that Malaseb is for dogs and horses. You might want to hold >>off using this on a cat or kitten. Ketochlor and other shampoos that begin >>with Keto- should be used only under the recommendation of a veterinarian. >>This one forms a coating of the substance on the cat's skin and lasts long >>after the shampoo has been used, according to the information on drugs.com. >> >>I'm not sure that shampooing a cat
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How to Bathe Your 1) First …. dress for the occasion. A 4-ply rubber wet suit is suggested, along with a helmet, face mask and welders gloves. 2) A Bathtub with a glass enclosure is preferred to the one with a shower curtain. A frenzied cat can shred one of these in about 3.5 seconds. 3) Have the Kitty Bubbles and towel in the enclosed bathtub area beforehand. No… blow drying the cat after the bath is not suggested. 4) Draw the water, making it a little warmer than needed as you still need to find the cat. Position everything strategically in the shower, so you can reach it even if you are face down or prone in the tub. 5) Find your cat. Use the element of surprise. Pick the cat up, nonchalantly as if you were simply carrying him/her to the supper dish. No need to worry about the cat noticing your strange attire, the cat barely notices you anyway. 6) Once you and the cat are inside the bathroom speed is essential. In one single fluid motion shut the door to the bathroom, step into the shower, close the sliding doors, and drop the cat into the water. While the cat is still in a state of shock locate the Kitty Bubbles and squirt whatever part of him is above the water line. You have just begun the wildest 45 seconds of your life. Remember that cats have no handles and add the fact that he now has soapy fur. His state of shock has worn off and he’s madder than hell. 7) As best you can, wearing welder’s gloves, try to field his body as he catapults through the air toward the ceiling. If possible, give another squirt of Kitty Bubbles with his body now fully exposed. 8) During the 5 seconds you are able to hold onto him, rub vigorously. No need to worry about rinsing. As he slides down the glass enclosure into the tub, he will fall back into the water, rinsing himself in the process. 9) Only attempt the lather and rinse process about 3 times. The cat will realize the lack of traction on the glass by then and will use the next attempt on the first available part of you. 10) Next, the cat must be dried. No, this is NOT the easiest part. By this stage, you are worn out and the cat has just become semi-permanently affixed to your right leg. We suggest here that you drain the tub and in full view of your cat, reach for the bottle of Kitty Bubbles. 11) If you have done step 10 correctly, the cat will be off your leg and hanging precariously from your helmet. Although this view of the cat is most disgusting, he will be in a much better position for wrapping the towel around him. 12) Be sure cat is firmly wrapped in towel before opening tub enclosure. Open bathroom door. Put towel-wrapped cat on floor and step back quickly. Into tub, if possible, and do not open enclosure until all you can see is the shredded towel. 13) In about 2 hours, it will be safe to exit the bathroom. Your cat will be sitting out there somewhere looking like a small hedgehog while plotting revenge. But doesn’t he smell better? -Original Message- From: Lee Evans Sent: Aug 27, 2013 12:59 PM To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ringworm With FeLv+ cats or any cats for that matter, it's always good to get the vet's opinion on what shampoo to use or not. Remember that some residue of the shampoo may be absorbed through the cat's skin. If you want to know more about cat diseases (or cattle, pig, horse, rabbit or anything disases) you can go to www.merckmanuals.com and click on The Merck Veterinary Manual. They list everything there. It's really wonderful. If you want to know about a particular medication you are told to use, go to www.drugs.com and type "cat medication" in the search area. Everything is listed in alphabetical order. You will discover that Malaseb is for dogs and horses. You might want to hold off using this on a cat or kitten. Ketochlor and other shampoos that begin with Keto- should be used only under the recommendation of a veterinarian. This one forms a coating of the substance on the cat's skin and lasts long after the shampoo has been used, according to the information on drugs.com. I'm not sure that shampooing a cat is for everyone. I tried it once or twice. What I got was a mass of soap bubbles and foam with ears and eyes, racing around the house, screaching and snarling. Getting a cat to stand around for 5 to 10 minutes while the shampoo works, as advised in the information, is sooo not realistic. If you do want to shampoo, notify your next of kin first. Incidentally, it was a flea shampoo I used on an adult cat who was usually Mr. Charming but turned into a vampire the minute the water and soap hit him. This was before I found out about Capstar and Frontline Plus, many moons ago. From: Catherine Chang To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 11:48 PMSubject: Re: [Felvtalk] ringworm Hi felv friends, I was away from emails for several days, so I am not sure whether bathing options has been mentioned in
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With FeLv+ cats or any cats for that matter, it's always good to get the vet's opinion on what shampoo to use or not. Remember that some residue of the shampoo may be absorbed through the cat's skin. If you want to know more about cat diseases (or cattle, pig, horse, rabbit or anything disases) you can go to www.merckmanuals.com and click on The Merck Veterinary Manual. They list everything there. It's really wonderful. If you want to know about a particular medication you are told to use, go to www.drugs.com and type "cat medication" in the search area. Everything is listed in alphabetical order. You will discover that Malaseb is for dogs and horses. You might want to hold off using this on a cat or kitten. Ketochlor and other shampoos that begin with Keto- should be used only under the recommendation of a veterinarian. This one forms a coating of the substance on the cat's skin and lasts long after the shampoo has been used, according to the information on drugs.com. I'm not sure that shampooing a cat is for everyone. I tried it once or twice. What I got was a mass of soap bubbles and foam with ears and eyes, racing around the house, screaching and snarling. Getting a cat to stand around for 5 to 10 minutes while the shampoo works, as advised in the information, is sooo not realistic. If you do want to shampoo, notify your next of kin first. Incidentally, it was a flea shampoo I used on an adult cat who was usually Mr. Charming but turned into a vampire the minute the water and soap hit him. This was before I found out about Capstar and Frontline Plus, many moons ago. > > From: Catherine Chang >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 11:48 PM >Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ringworm > > > >Hi felv friends, > > >I was away from emails for several days, so I am not sure whether bathing >options has been mentioned in this thread about ringworm. If they been >mentioned, please skip this email. If not, here they are: > >I know 2 shampoos can eliminate ringworm very effectively by just bathing the >cat (or just his/her infected area) twice a week. > >1. Malaseb shampoo: it contains 2% Miconazole which can treat ringworm very >effectively. It is available on Amazon. >2. Nizoral Shampoo: it is a human dandruff shampoo made with Ketoconazole. The >1% version can be obtained in drug stores. Although taking Ketoconazole by >mouth could make cat lethargy, such side effect is less seen when only using >it by bathing as far as I know. There is also a pet version of 2% Ketoconazole >shampoo, but you will need a prescription to get that. > >hope it helps. >catherine > > > > > > >___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Hi felv friends, I was away from emails for several days, so I am not sure whether bathing options has been mentioned in this thread about ringworm. If they been mentioned, please skip this email. If not, here they are: I know 2 shampoos can eliminate ringworm very effectively by just bathing the cat (or just his/her infected area) twice a week. 1. Malaseb shampoo: it contains 2% Miconazole which can treat ringworm very effectively. It is available on Amazon. 2. Nizoral Shampoo: it is a human dandruff shampoo made with Ketoconazole. The 1% version can be obtained in drug stores. Although taking Ketoconazole by mouth could make cat lethargy, such side effect is less seen when only using it by bathing as far as I know. There is also a pet version of 2% Ketoconazole shampoo, but you will need a prescription to get that. hope it helps. catherine On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 8:29 AM, Marcia wrote: > LOL Lee, you always make me smile(-: > > Sent from my iPad > > On Aug 25, 2013, at 11:00 PM, Lee Evans wrote: > > I still vote for the cream for athletes foot. I used it years ago on a cat > named Munchkin for spots of fur loss. Didn't know it was ringworm, just > whisked my fingers through it and hadn't a clue. Took him to the vet and > the vet said ringworm. Eeek! But I never contracted it. Vet said I was > probably exposed to it as a child and was immune. Whatever . I did use > Program prophylactically on some of my own cats who were exposed to a > rescued kitten I was fostering who was diagnosed with ringworm. No one > caught it from him. Actually, ringworm is self limiting. The cats lose > fur, their immune system kicks in if they are relatively healthy and the > hair loss stops, the little whorls heal up and cat is good to go again. But > if you like a messy, greasy cat, ask your vet about the athletes foot cream. > > Worked in a medical office for a good part of my early years. They used > gentian violet for female herpes. Yow! I bet that was no fun. And of > course, it didn't help much. Sadistic male gynecologists. > > > -- > *From:* Lorrie > *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > *Sent:* Friday, August 23, 2013 2:45 PM > *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] ringworm > > Hi, I'm even older than you... I'm 80 and in the 1940's when I > had ringworm, the treatment was just alcohol. I remember screaming > when my mom put alcohol on my ringworm because it burned so much. It > got rid of the stuff tho. Medicine didn't taste good in those days > either. We got castor oil, and all sorts of awful tasting remedies. > > BTW go for the purple hair. My hair is thin too, so maybe I'll try > it :-) > > Lorrie > > On 08-23, dlg...@windstream.net wrote: > > > BETH - Now that I am 73 and have gone thru 4 different chemos, my hair is > > thinning. Guess I will have to find some gentian Violet and paint my > head > > purple. I will fit in with all the younger crowd who like all colors of > > hair. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Susan Saunders wrote: > > > Original Program (flea medicine) works. Only has to be given once - > twice at the most. > > > > > > Susan Saunders > > Bengal Rescue > > Louisville, KY > > http://www.bengalrescuenetwork.org/ > > 502-494-8669 > > Join bengalcatrescue-subscr...@yahoogroups.com > > > > From: Beth > > To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" > > Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 11:06 AM > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ringworm > > > > > > > > Wow. Maybe you have accidentally discovered a cure for thinning hair :) > > > > > > Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! http://www.furkids.org/ > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 8:49 PM, wrote: > > > > As long as it works, that is what is important. I know this is a bit > late, but been busy taking care of Lil Bit, giving fluids, meds and syringe > feeding. All to no avail, she passed last Friday. > > >When I was a child, I got ringworm and my doctor (an old vet who went > to Vienna and trained for people meds) used gentian violet on my head. It > was purple, but got rid of the ringworm. Ever since then, the hair on that > part of my head is curlier and thicker. > > > > > > Cindy McHugh wrote: > > >> When we took in a cat with ringworm, the first vet prescribed an > expensive oral medication (something like Griseofluvin). We sought the > advice of a different vet who gave the cat a shot of antibiotics and > recommended we use lime sulfur dips. It took a while, but it did cle
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LOL Lee, you always make me smile(-: Sent from my iPad On Aug 25, 2013, at 11:00 PM, Lee Evans wrote: > I still vote for the cream for athletes foot. I used it years ago on a cat > named Munchkin for spots of fur loss. Didn't know it was ringworm, just > whisked my fingers through it and hadn't a clue. Took him to the vet and the > vet said ringworm. Eeek! But I never contracted it. Vet said I was probably > exposed to it as a child and was immune. Whatever . I did use Program > prophylactically on some of my own cats who were exposed to a rescued kitten > I was fostering who was diagnosed with ringworm. No one caught it from him. > Actually, ringworm is self limiting. The cats lose fur, their immune system > kicks in if they are relatively healthy and the hair loss stops, the little > whorls heal up and cat is good to go again. But if you like a messy, greasy > cat, ask your vet about the athletes foot cream. > > Worked in a medical office for a good part of my early years. They used > gentian violet for female herpes. Yow! I bet that was no fun. And of course, > it didn't help much. Sadistic male gynecologists. > > > From: Lorrie > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 2:45 PM > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ringworm > > Hi, I'm even older than you... I'm 80 and in the 1940's when I > had ringworm, the treatment was just alcohol. I remember screaming > when my mom put alcohol on my ringworm because it burned so much. It > got rid of the stuff tho. Medicine didn't taste good in those days > either. We got castor oil, and all sorts of awful tasting remedies. > > BTW go for the purple hair. My hair is thin too, so maybe I'll try > it :-) > > Lorrie > > On 08-23, dlg...@windstream.net wrote: > > > BETH - Now that I am 73 and have gone thru 4 different chemos, my hair is > > thinning. Guess I will have to find some gentian Violet and paint my head > > purple. I will fit in with all the younger crowd who like all colors of > > hair. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Susan Saunders wrote: > > > Original Program (flea medicine) works. Only has to be given once - twice > > > at the most. > > > > > > Susan Saunders > > Bengal Rescue > > Louisville, KY > > http://www.bengalrescuenetwork.org/ > > 502-494-8669 > > Join bengalcatrescue-subscr...@yahoogroups.com > > > > From: Beth > > To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" > > Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 11:06 AM > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ringworm > > > > > > > > Wow. Maybe you have accidentally discovered a cure for thinning hair :) > > > > > > Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! http://www.furkids.org/ > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 8:49 PM, wrote: > > > > As long as it works, that is what is important. I know this is a bit late, > > but been busy taking care of Lil Bit, giving fluids, meds and syringe > > feeding. All to no avail, she passed last Friday. > > >When I was a child, I got ringworm and my doctor (an old vet who went to > > >Vienna and trained for people meds) used gentian violet on my head. It > > >was purple, but got rid of the ringworm. Ever since then, the hair on > > >that part of my head is curlier and thicker. > > > > > > Cindy McHugh wrote: > > >> When we took in a cat with ringworm, the first vet prescribed an > > >> expensive oral medication (something like Griseofluvin). We sought the > > >> advice of a different vet who gave the cat a shot of antibiotics and > > >> recommended we use lime sulfur dips. It took a while, but it did clear > > >> up. The dips are messy and stinky, but effective. > > >> > > >> Good luck. > > >> Cindy > > >> > > > > > > > > >___ > > >Felvtalk mailing list > > >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > > > > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > > > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman
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I still vote for the cream for athletes foot. I used it years ago on a cat named Munchkin for spots of fur loss. Didn't know it was ringworm, just whisked my fingers through it and hadn't a clue. Took him to the vet and the vet said ringworm. Eeek! But I never contracted it. Vet said I was probably exposed to it as a child and was immune. Whatever . I did use Program prophylactically on some of my own cats who were exposed to a rescued kitten I was fostering who was diagnosed with ringworm. No one caught it from him. Actually, ringworm is self limiting. The cats lose fur, their immune system kicks in if they are relatively healthy and the hair loss stops, the little whorls heal up and cat is good to go again. But if you like a messy, greasy cat, ask your vet about the athletes foot cream. Worked in a medical office for a good part of my early years. They used gentian violet for female herpes. Yow! I bet that was no fun. And of course, it didn't help much. Sadistic male gynecologists. > > From: Lorrie >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 2:45 PM >Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ringworm > > >Hi, I'm even older than you... I'm 80 and in the 1940's when I >had ringworm, the treatment was just alcohol. I remember screaming >when my mom put alcohol on my ringworm because it burned so much. It >got rid of the stuff tho. Medicine didn't taste good in those days >either. We got castor oil, and all sorts of awful tasting remedies. > >BTW go for the purple hair. My hair is thin too, so maybe I'll try >it :-) > >Lorrie > >On 08-23, dlg...@windstream.net wrote: > >> BETH - Now that I am 73 and have gone thru 4 different chemos, my hair is >> thinning. Guess I will have to find some gentian Violet and paint my head >> purple. I will fit in with all the younger crowd who like all colors of >> hair. > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> Susan Saunders wrote: >> > Original Program (flea medicine) works. Only has to be given once - twice >> > at the most. >> >> >> Susan Saunders >> Bengal Rescue >> Louisville, KY >> http://www.bengalrescuenetwork.org/ >> 502-494-8669 >> Join bengalcatrescue-subscr...@yahoogroups.com >> >> From: Beth >> To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" >> Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 11:06 AM >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ringworm >> >> >> >> Wow. Maybe you have accidentally discovered a cure for thinning hair :) >> >> >> Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! http://www.furkids.org/ >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 8:49 PM, wrote: >> >> As long as it works, that is what is important. I know this is a bit late, >> but been busy taking care of Lil Bit, giving fluids, meds and syringe >> feeding. All to no avail, she passed last Friday. >> >When I was a child, I got ringworm and my doctor (an old vet who went to >> >Vienna and trained for people meds) used gentian violet on my head. It was >> >purple, but got rid of the ringworm. Ever since then, the hair on that >> >part of my head is curlier and thicker. >> > >> > Cindy McHugh wrote: >> >> When we took in a cat with ringworm, the first vet prescribed an >> >> expensive oral medication (something like Griseofluvin). We sought the >> >> advice of a different vet who gave the cat a shot of antibiotics and >> >> recommended we use lime sulfur dips. It took a while, but it did clear >> >> up. The dips are messy and stinky, but effective. >> >> >> >> Good luck. >> >> Cindy >> >> >> > >> > >> >___ >> >Felvtalk mailing list >> >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> > >> >> >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> >> >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > >___ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > >___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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My vet says to use 2 tblsp bleach to 1 gallon of water. And the vet from Revival Animal Health said he used 3 TBLSP to a gallon. I use lime sulfur dips or veterycin. I had it all over me last year. I had it from June until December. Did a lot of laundry and cleaning(-; By the way, oregano oil works very well on humans. Wish I would have tried it last year! Sent from my absolutely outstanding iphone(: On Aug 23, 2013, at 10:07 AM, Beth wrote: > Yes, Program does work great. And I think you only give it once of twice. > Yes, the liquid oral meds are extremely toxic. > > Beth > Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org > > > From: "kgbarnc...@gmail.com" > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 10:41 AM > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ringworm > > Google for the Program flea medicine for cats, it also controls ringworm. My > rescue friend says it worked great on a bunch of ringwormy kittens rescued > from the kill shelter. > > Kg > > - Reply message - > From: "Lee Evans" > To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" > Subject: [Felvtalk] ringworm > Date: Fri, Aug 23, 2013 12:51 am > > > You can also use a cream for athletes foot. As your vet what the safe amount > would be on cat skin. > > Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty > neighbors too! > > > From: "dlg...@windstream.net" > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2013 7:49 PM > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ringworm > > As long as it works, that is what is important. I know this is a bit late, > but been busy taking care of Lil Bit, giving fluids, meds and syringe > feeding. All to no avail, she passed last Friday. > When I was a child, I got ringworm and my doctor (an old vet who went to > Vienna and trained for people meds) used gentian violet on my head. It was > purple, but got rid of the ringworm. Ever since then, the hair on that part > of my head is curlier and thicker. > > Cindy McHugh wrote: > > When we took in a cat with ringworm, the first vet prescribed an expensive > > oral medication (something like Griseofluvin). We sought the advice of a > > different vet who gave the cat a shot of antibiotics and recommended we use > > lime sulfur dips. It took a while, but it did clear up. The dips are messy > > and stinky, but effective. > > > > Good luck. > > Cindy > > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Hi, I'm even older than you... I'm 80 and in the 1940's when I had ringworm, the treatment was just alcohol. I remember screaming when my mom put alcohol on my ringworm because it burned so much. It got rid of the stuff tho. Medicine didn't taste good in those days either. We got castor oil, and all sorts of awful tasting remedies. BTW go for the purple hair. My hair is thin too, so maybe I'll try it :-) Lorrie On 08-23, dlg...@windstream.net wrote: > BETH - Now that I am 73 and have gone thru 4 different chemos, my hair is > thinning. Guess I will have to find some gentian Violet and paint my head > purple. I will fit in with all the younger crowd who like all colors of > hair. > > Susan Saunders wrote: > > Original Program (flea medicine) works. Only has to be given once - twice > > at the most. > > > Susan Saunders > Bengal Rescue > Louisville, KY > http://www.bengalrescuenetwork.org/ > 502-494-8669 > Join bengalcatrescue-subscr...@yahoogroups.com > > From: Beth > To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" > Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 11:06 AM > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ringworm > > > > Wow. Maybe you have accidentally discovered a cure for thinning hair :) > > > Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! http://www.furkids.org/ > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 8:49 PM, wrote: > > As long as it works, that is what is important. I know this is a bit late, > but been busy taking care of Lil Bit, giving fluids, meds and syringe > feeding. All to no avail, she passed last Friday. > >When I was a child, I got ringworm and my doctor (an old vet who went to > >Vienna and trained for people meds) used gentian violet on my head. It was > >purple, but got rid of the ringworm. Ever since then, the hair on that part > >of my head is curlier and thicker. > > > > Cindy McHugh wrote: > >> When we took in a cat with ringworm, the first vet prescribed an expensive > >> oral medication (something like Griseofluvin). We sought the advice of a > >> different vet who gave the cat a shot of antibiotics and recommended we > >> use lime sulfur dips. It took a while, but it did clear up. The dips are > >> messy and stinky, but effective. > >> > >> Good luck. > >> Cindy > >> > > > > > >___ > >Felvtalk mailing list > >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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BETH - Now that I am 73 and have gone thru 4 different chemos, my hair is thinning. Guess I will have to find some gentian Violet and paint my head purple. I will fit in with all the younger crowd who like all colors of hair. Susan Saunders wrote: > Original Program (flea medicine) works. Only has to be given once - twice at > the most. Susan Saunders Bengal Rescue Louisville, KY http://www.bengalrescuenetwork.org/ 502-494-8669 Join bengalcatrescue-subscr...@yahoogroups.com From: Beth To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ringworm Wow. Maybe you have accidentally discovered a cure for thinning hair :) Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! http://www.furkids.org/ On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 8:49 PM, wrote: As long as it works, that is what is important. I know this is a bit late, but been busy taking care of Lil Bit, giving fluids, meds and syringe feeding. All to no avail, she passed last Friday. >When I was a child, I got ringworm and my doctor (an old vet who went to >Vienna and trained for people meds) used gentian violet on my head. It was >purple, but got rid of the ringworm. Ever since then, the hair on that part >of my head is curlier and thicker. > > Cindy McHugh wrote: >> When we took in a cat with ringworm, the first vet prescribed an expensive >> oral medication (something like Griseofluvin). We sought the advice of a >> different vet who gave the cat a shot of antibiotics and recommended we use >> lime sulfur dips. It took a while, but it did clear up. The dips are messy >> and stinky, but effective. >> >> Good luck. >> Cindy >> > > >___ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Original Program (flea medicine) works. Only has to be given once - twice at the most. Susan Saunders Bengal Rescue Louisville, KY http://www.bengalrescuenetwork.org/ 502-494-8669 Join bengalcatrescue-subscr...@yahoogroups.com From: Beth To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ringworm Wow. Maybe you have accidentally discovered a cure for thinning hair :) Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! http://www.furkids.org/ On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 8:49 PM, wrote: As long as it works, that is what is important. I know this is a bit late, but been busy taking care of Lil Bit, giving fluids, meds and syringe feeding. All to no avail, she passed last Friday. >When I was a child, I got ringworm and my doctor (an old vet who went to >Vienna and trained for people meds) used gentian violet on my head. It was >purple, but got rid of the ringworm. Ever since then, the hair on that part >of my head is curlier and thicker. > > Cindy McHugh wrote: >> When we took in a cat with ringworm, the first vet prescribed an expensive >> oral medication (something like Griseofluvin). We sought the advice of a >> different vet who gave the cat a shot of antibiotics and recommended we use >> lime sulfur dips. It took a while, but it did clear up. The dips are messy >> and stinky, but effective. >> >> Good luck. >> Cindy >> > > >___ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Yes, Program does work great. And I think you only give it once of twice. Yes, the liquid oral meds are extremely toxic. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: "kgbarnc...@gmail.com" To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 10:41 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ringworm Google for the Program flea medicine for cats, it also controls ringworm. My rescue friend says it worked great on a bunch of ringwormy kittens rescued from the kill shelter. Kg - Reply message - From: "Lee Evans" To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Subject: [Felvtalk] ringworm Date: Fri, Aug 23, 2013 12:51 am You can also use a cream for athletes foot. As your vet what the safe amount would be on cat skin. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! > > From: "dlg...@windstream.net" >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2013 7:49 PM >Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ringworm > > >As long as it works, that is what is important. I know this is a bit late, >but been busy taking care of Lil Bit, giving fluids, meds and syringe feeding. > All to no avail, she passed last Friday. >When I was a child, I got ringworm and my doctor (an old vet who went to >Vienna and trained for people meds) used gentian violet on my head. It was >purple, but got rid of the ringworm. Ever since then, the hair on that part of my head is curlier and thicker. > > Cindy McHugh wrote: >> When we took in a cat with ringworm, the first vet prescribed an expensive >> oral medication (something like Griseofluvin). We sought the advice of a >> different vet who gave the cat a shot of antibiotics and recommended we use >> lime sulfur dips. It took a while, but it did clear up. The dips are messy >> and stinky, but effective. >> >> Good luck. >> Cindy >> > > >___ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Wow. Maybe you have accidentally discovered a cure for thinning hair :) Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 8:49 PM, wrote: As long as it works, that is what is important. I know this is a bit late, but been busy taking care of Lil Bit, giving fluids, meds and syringe feeding. All to no avail, she passed last Friday. >When I was a child, I got ringworm and my doctor (an old vet who went to >Vienna and trained for people meds) used gentian violet on my head. It was >purple, but got rid of the ringworm. Ever since then, the hair on that part >of my head is curlier and thicker. > > Cindy McHugh wrote: >> When we took in a cat with ringworm, the first vet prescribed an expensive >> oral medication (something like Griseofluvin). We sought the advice of a >> different vet who gave the cat a shot of antibiotics and recommended we use >> lime sulfur dips. It took a while, but it did clear up. The dips are messy >> and stinky, but effective. >> >> Good luck. >> Cindy >> > > >___ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] ringworm
The oral meds can be very hard on the liver, I believe Itraconazole (sporanox) is considered the "safest", griseofulvin and ketoconzole can be dangerous, Griseofulvin should not be used in FIV+ cats (one of the main people on the former Ringworm group lost his FIV+ kitty that way), and my understanding is that Ketoconazole shouldn't be used in cats. Personally I would not use either, but if oral meds seem necessary would stick to Itraconazole. Just a two cents, I'm not a vet but know many here are already dealing with challenged kitties so wanted to mention :-) On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 8:49 PM, wrote: > As long as it works, that is what is important. I know this is a bit > late, but been busy taking care of Lil Bit, giving fluids, meds and syringe > feeding. All to no avail, she passed last Friday. > When I was a child, I got ringworm and my doctor (an old vet who went to > Vienna and trained for people meds) used gentian violet on my head. It was > purple, but got rid of the ringworm. Ever since then, the hair on that > part of my head is curlier and thicker. > > Cindy McHugh wrote: > > When we took in a cat with ringworm, the first vet prescribed an > expensive oral medication (something like Griseofluvin). We sought the > advice of a different vet who gave the cat a shot of antibiotics and > recommended we use lime sulfur dips. It took a while, but it did clear up. > The dips are messy and stinky, but effective. > > > > Good luck. > > Cindy > > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] ringworm
Google for the Program flea medicine for cats, it also controls ringworm. My rescue friend says it worked great on a bunch of ringwormy kittens rescued from the kill shelter. Kg - Reply message - From: "Lee Evans" To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Subject: [Felvtalk] ringworm Date: Fri, Aug 23, 2013 12:51 am You can also use a cream for athletes foot. As your vet what the safe amount would be on cat skin. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! From: "dlg...@windstream.net" To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2013 7:49 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ringworm As long as it works, that is what is important. I know this is a bit late, but been busy taking care of Lil Bit, giving fluids, meds and syringe feeding. All to no avail, she passed last Friday. When I was a child, I got ringworm and my doctor (an old vet who went to Vienna and trained for people meds) used gentian violet on my head. It was purple, but got rid of the ringworm. Ever since then, the hair on that part of my head is curlier and thicker. Cindy McHugh wrote: > When we took in a cat with ringworm, the first vet prescribed an expensive > oral medication (something like Griseofluvin). We sought the advice of a > different vet who gave the cat a shot of antibiotics and recommended we use > lime sulfur dips. It took a while, but it did clear up. The dips are messy > and stinky, but effective. > > Good luck. > Cindy > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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You can also use a cream for athletes foot. As your vet what the safe amount would be on cat skin. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! > > From: "dlg...@windstream.net" >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2013 7:49 PM >Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ringworm > > >As long as it works, that is what is important. I know this is a bit late, >but been busy taking care of Lil Bit, giving fluids, meds and syringe feeding. > All to no avail, she passed last Friday. >When I was a child, I got ringworm and my doctor (an old vet who went to >Vienna and trained for people meds) used gentian violet on my head. It was >purple, but got rid of the ringworm. Ever since then, the hair on that part >of my head is curlier and thicker. > > Cindy McHugh wrote: >> When we took in a cat with ringworm, the first vet prescribed an expensive >> oral medication (something like Griseofluvin). We sought the advice of a >> different vet who gave the cat a shot of antibiotics and recommended we use >> lime sulfur dips. It took a while, but it did clear up. The dips are messy >> and stinky, but effective. >> >> Good luck. >> Cindy >> > > >___ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > >___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] ringworm
As long as it works, that is what is important. I know this is a bit late, but been busy taking care of Lil Bit, giving fluids, meds and syringe feeding. All to no avail, she passed last Friday. When I was a child, I got ringworm and my doctor (an old vet who went to Vienna and trained for people meds) used gentian violet on my head. It was purple, but got rid of the ringworm. Ever since then, the hair on that part of my head is curlier and thicker. Cindy McHugh wrote: > When we took in a cat with ringworm, the first vet prescribed an expensive > oral medication (something like Griseofluvin). We sought the advice of a > different vet who gave the cat a shot of antibiotics and recommended we use > lime sulfur dips. It took a while, but it did clear up. The dips are messy > and stinky, but effective. > > Good luck. > Cindy > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] ringworm
Any kind of anti fungus cream sold in drug stores works on ring worm Sent via my Samsung Transform™ Ultra from Boost Mobile Marcia wrote: Vetericyn works also. I use it on myself for everything. Sent from my absolutely outstanding iphone(: On Mar 1, 2013, at 11:50 PM, Lee Evans wrote: The pill can cause irreparable kidney damage. Yes, lime sulfur dip is stinky but it has very little long term effect on cat health. It gets rid of the ringworm nicely. Also good for mange. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! From: tisme To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 9:41 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ringworm My vet had given me a liquid med to dab on the spots. Took a couple of weeks but cleared up. Theres a pill as well but DON'T use that...all sorts of bad side effects. Sent from my Galaxy S®III Original message From: Elizabeth Ann Bodden Date: To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] ringworm Does anyone have tips on how to get rid of ringworm on a felv positive kitten? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Vetericyn works also. I use it on myself for everything. Sent from my absolutely outstanding iphone(: On Mar 1, 2013, at 11:50 PM, Lee Evans wrote: > The pill can cause irreparable kidney damage. Yes, lime sulfur dip is stinky > but it has very little long term effect on cat health. It gets rid of the > ringworm nicely. Also good for mange. > > > Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty > neighbors too! > > > From: tisme > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 9:41 AM > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ringworm > > My vet had given me a liquid med to dab on the spots. Took a couple of weeks > but cleared up. Theres a pill as well but DON'T use that...all sorts of bad > side effects. > > > Sent from my Galaxy S®III > > > > Original message > From: Elizabeth Ann Bodden > Date: > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] ringworm > > > Does anyone have tips on how to get rid of ringworm on a felv positive kitten? > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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The pill can cause irreparable kidney damage. Yes, lime sulfur dip is stinky but it has very little long term effect on cat health. It gets rid of the ringworm nicely. Also good for mange. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! > > From: tisme >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 9:41 AM >Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ringworm > > >My vet had given me a liquid med to dab on the spots. Took a couple of weeks >but cleared up. Theres a pill as well but DON'T use that...all sorts of bad >side effects. > > > > >Sent from my Galaxy S®III > > > Original message >From: Elizabeth Ann Bodden >Date: >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >Subject: [Felvtalk] ringworm > > >Does anyone have tips on how to get rid of ringworm on a felv positive kitten? > >___ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > >___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] ringworm
You could also use the natural remedies found on holisticat.com. On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 9:10 AM, wrote: > I use the Walmart Equate brand of Athlete’s Foot cream it is 1% > Clotrimazole and has always worked for my cats, have used it many times. > Just apply a couple of times a day, no mess, no smell and it is cheap. If > they have quite a lot of ringworm, I woiuld also bathe them with Nizoral > shampoo, not to expensive and available in the dandruff shampoo area at > Walmart. > > Gary > > *From:* Elizabeth Ann Bodden > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 13, 2013 10:16 AM > *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > *Subject:* [Felvtalk] ringworm > > Does anyone have tips on how to get rid of ringworm on a felv positive > kitten? > > -- > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > -- Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal! If you can't adopt, then foster a "bottle baby" shelter animal, to save their life. Contact your local pound for information. <http://www.laanimalservices.com/volunteer_fostercare.htm> If you can't bottle feed, then foster an older animal, to save their life, and to free up cage space. Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% (and as high as 99%) of their intake by implementing the No Kill Equation. No Kill Quick Facts: http://www.nathanwinograd.com/?p=11718 Here's the current growing list of communities saving 90% or more of their shelter intake: http://www.no-killnews.com/ (see the right sidebar). Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org More fun reading: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/guides/ More fun watching: http://vimeo.com/nokill/videos especially http://vimeo.com/48445902 Local feral cat crisis? See Alley Cat Allies' page for how to respond: http://www.alleycat.org/page.aspx?pid=537 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] ringworm
I use the Walmart Equate brand of Athlete’s Foot cream it is 1% Clotrimazole and has always worked for my cats, have used it many times. Just apply a couple of times a day, no mess, no smell and it is cheap. If they have quite a lot of ringworm, I woiuld also bathe them with Nizoral shampoo, not to expensive and available in the dandruff shampoo area at Walmart. Gary From: Elizabeth Ann Bodden Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 10:16 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] ringworm Does anyone have tips on how to get rid of ringworm on a felv positive kitten? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] ringworm
When we took in a cat with ringworm, the first vet prescribed an expensive oral medication (something like Griseofluvin). We sought the advice of a different vet who gave the cat a shot of antibiotics and recommended we use lime sulfur dips. It took a while, but it did clear up. The dips are messy and stinky, but effective. Good luck. Cindy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] ringworm
My vet had given me a liquid med to dab on the spots. Took a couple of weeks but cleared up. Theres a pill as well but DON'T use that...all sorts of bad side effects. Sent from my Galaxy S®III Original message From: Elizabeth Ann Bodden Date: To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] ringworm Does anyone have tips on how to get rid of ringworm on a felv positive kitten? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] ringworm
Does anyone have tips on how to get rid of ringworm on a felv positive kitten? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] on ringworm.
i've been threatening for years to make up a t-shirt that says, "Ringworm Happens." On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 6:19 PM, Gloria B. Lane wrote: > HA Love it. > > Gloria > > > > > On Apr 15, 2010, at 7:49 PM, MaryChristine wrote: > > re: ringworm, your vet is uncommonly wise. if you read all the >> professional >> literature, including the small print, it all boils down to: goes away >> with >> treatment in x number of months (depending on treatment); goes away >> without >> treatment in three months..... >> >> shelters and rescues all over the country KILL cats for having ringworm; >> many cats are immune to it, or break out once and then develop an >> immunity, >> and there seems to be a genetic component to it, too--persians and himmies >> will probably be shown to be predisposed to it. there's even an ingrown >> form >> of it only seen in persians, himalayans (and one dog) >> >> ringworm spores, like cockroaches, will outlive us all, and sit around >> campfires munching on twinkies milennia after the human race has died out. >> >> just saying. >> >> -- >> Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! >> Maybe That'll Make The Difference >> >> MaryChristine >> Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue ( >> www.purebredcats.org) >> Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] on ringworm.
HA Love it. Gloria On Apr 15, 2010, at 7:49 PM, MaryChristine wrote: re: ringworm, your vet is uncommonly wise. if you read all the professional literature, including the small print, it all boils down to: goes away with treatment in x number of months (depending on treatment); goes away without treatment in three months. shelters and rescues all over the country KILL cats for having ringworm; many cats are immune to it, or break out once and then develop an immunity, and there seems to be a genetic component to it, too--persians and himmies will probably be shown to be predisposed to it. there's even an ingrown form of it only seen in persians, himalayans (and one dog).... ringworm spores, like cockroaches, will outlive us all, and sit around campfires munching on twinkies milennia after the human race has died out. just saying. -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org ) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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very good info, MaryChristine, and love the twinkie comment! LOL --- On Thu, 4/15/10, MaryChristine wrote: From: MaryChristine Subject: [Felvtalk] on ringworm. To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, April 15, 2010, 7:49 PM re: ringworm, your vet is uncommonly wise. if you read all the professional literature, including the small print, it all boils down to: goes away with treatment in x number of months (depending on treatment); goes away without treatment in three months. shelters and rescues all over the country KILL cats for having ringworm; many cats are immune to it, or break out once and then develop an immunity, and there seems to be a genetic component to it, too--persians and himmies will probably be shown to be predisposed to it. there's even an ingrown form of it only seen in persians, himalayans (and one dog).... ringworm spores, like cockroaches, will outlive us all, and sit around campfires munching on twinkies milennia after the human race has died out. just saying. -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] on ringworm.
re: ringworm, your vet is uncommonly wise. if you read all the professional literature, including the small print, it all boils down to: goes away with treatment in x number of months (depending on treatment); goes away without treatment in three months. shelters and rescues all over the country KILL cats for having ringworm; many cats are immune to it, or break out once and then develop an immunity, and there seems to be a genetic component to it, too--persians and himmies will probably be shown to be predisposed to it. there's even an ingrown form of it only seen in persians, himalayans (and one dog).... ringworm spores, like cockroaches, will outlive us all, and sit around campfires munching on twinkies milennia after the human race has died out. just saying. -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] gentian violet for ringworm-how?
LOL yes I know I have taken it too. The thing is, Whimsy is terrified of the smell, I already tried goldenseal and he just runs away. --- On Fri, 4/2/10, Susan Hoffman wrote: From: Susan Hoffman Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] gentian violet for ringworm-how? To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Friday, April 2, 2010, 11:20 PM No one, cat or human, will lick gholdenseal a second time. try it. You'll understand why. I once tried to make a suspesion of goldenseal in honey for myself and it still tasted foul. --- On Fri, 4/2/10, Gloria B. Lane wrote: > From: Gloria B. Lane > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] gentian violet for ringworm-how? > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Friday, April 2, 2010, 8:01 PM > I have used Gentian Violet for many > years for ringworm, and Golden Seal for not quite as long, > and both seem to work well. No I don't dilute it, > never thought of it, but you might try it. I always > start with Golden Seal because it's not as , uh, "purple" as > the Gentian Violet, ha! It's also a treatment for > thrush in the mouth, but I don't think it's very tempting to > use in the mouth, or lick (for a kitty). > > Gloria > > > > > On Apr 2, 2010, at 6:45 PM, Emeraldkittee wrote: > > > some have mentioned using this or goldenseal as a > natural treatment for ringwormI assume it comes in a > tincture, like goldenseal can? should it be diluted > with water and applied with cotton? I assume it's ok > if they lick some of it off? > > > > thank you. > > > > > > > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] gentian violet for ringworm-how?
No one, cat or human, will lick gholdenseal a second time. try it. You'll understand why. I once tried to make a suspesion of goldenseal in honey for myself and it still tasted foul. --- On Fri, 4/2/10, Gloria B. Lane wrote: > From: Gloria B. Lane > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] gentian violet for ringworm-how? > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Friday, April 2, 2010, 8:01 PM > I have used Gentian Violet for many > years for ringworm, and Golden Seal for not quite as long, > and both seem to work well. No I don't dilute it, > never thought of it, but you might try it. I always > start with Golden Seal because it's not as , uh, "purple" as > the Gentian Violet, ha! It's also a treatment for > thrush in the mouth, but I don't think it's very tempting to > use in the mouth, or lick (for a kitty). > > Gloria > > > > > On Apr 2, 2010, at 6:45 PM, Emeraldkittee wrote: > > > some have mentioned using this or goldenseal as a > natural treatment for ringwormI assume it comes in a > tincture, like goldenseal can? should it be diluted > with water and applied with cotton? I assume it's ok > if they lick some of it off? > > > > thank you. > > > > > > > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] gentian violet for ringworm-how?
I have used Gentian Violet for many years for ringworm, and Golden Seal for not quite as long, and both seem to work well. No I don't dilute it, never thought of it, but you might try it. I always start with Golden Seal because it's not as , uh, "purple" as the Gentian Violet, ha! It's also a treatment for thrush in the mouth, but I don't think it's very tempting to use in the mouth, or lick (for a kitty). Gloria On Apr 2, 2010, at 6:45 PM, Emeraldkittee wrote: some have mentioned using this or goldenseal as a natural treatment for ringwormI assume it comes in a tincture, like goldenseal can? should it be diluted with water and applied with cotton? I assume it's ok if they lick some of it off? thank you. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] gentian violet for ringworm-how?
some have mentioned using this or goldenseal as a natural treatment for ringwormI assume it comes in a tincture, like goldenseal can? should it be diluted with water and applied with cotton? I assume it's ok if they lick some of it off? thank you. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] ringworm
WHEN I WAS VERY YOUNG A DR. USED GENTIAN VIOLET ON ME FOR RINGWORM. WORKED, HAIR IN THAT AREA HAS ALWAYS BEEN THICKER AND CURLIER. "Gloria B. Lane" wrote: > > Topically I've used Golden Seal for ringworm, and it works well. If that > doesn't work I try Gentian Violet (which is very purple > and messy but has always worked well). Orally I've used Grisiofulvin once > or twice. I have one FIV kitty with skin issues right > now and am using Sebazole (sp) and seems to work well for him. I get a wet > rag and apply it topially, with warm water. Not sure > what his skin problem is, though, probably not ringworm. > > Gloria > > > > >--- Original Message --- > >From: Diane Tyler[mailto:drty...@spenserslegacy.org] > >Sent: 3/3/2010 6:23:45 PM > >To : felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >Cc : > >Subject : RE: Re: [Felvtalk] ringworm > > > >I've had lots of success using Program for ringworm. I've used it twice: > this year and several years ago for groups of four or more cats. The dosage > suggestions can be found at this website: > > http://www.vetinfo.com/cringwrm.html > > I know lots of people might not agree that this is an effective treatment, > but again, it has worked for me and is certainly a lot less stressful than > bathing or dipping. > > Good luck! > > Diane > > On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 5:54 PM, Emeraldkittee wrote: > > > just wondering if anyone had a FeLV baby with ringworm? Whimsy is not > > inside yet, but has started to yank his own fur out - he's got a few red > > spots suddenly that look similiar to scraped knees in people. I'm planning > > on doing a skin scrape per my vet's instructions but I'm concerned if a) the > > test takes time to send to a lab is ok to bring him in? b) I won't be able > > to bathe him / nor do the sulfar dips, so it would have to be oral meds c) > > can I treat him while he's outside for this? > > > > I can't risk our whole household being infected especially with two other > > immune supressed kitties. > > > > ugh, this throws a curve ball into the plan. This just started about 1 wk > > ago with lesions appearing about 3 days ago. I was hoping to get him back > > to the vet and inside over the next week. > > > > Thanks so much, these posts are so helpful and interesting. > > Shannon > > > > anyone else's experiences would be interesting to hear. > > > > > > > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > > -- > Diane Tyler > Spenser's Legacy Animal Rescue > www.SpensersLegacy.org > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] ringworm
Griseofulvin is the stuff that cannot be given to FIV cats. Causes bone marrow supression leading to dangerously low white blood cell counts. Griseofulvin has a lot of side effects including anemia & liver damage. I wouldn't use it for any cat unless nothing else worked. Beth Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org --- On Thu, 3/4/10, Gloria B. Lane wrote: From: Gloria B. Lane Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ringworm To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, March 4, 2010, 2:14 PM Topically I've used Golden Seal for ringworm, and it works well. If that doesn't work I try Gentian Violet (which is very purple and messy but has always worked well). Orally I've used Grisiofulvin once or twice. I have one FIV kitty with skin issues right now and am using Sebazole (sp) and seems to work well for him. I get a wet rag and apply it topially, with warm water. Not sure what his skin problem is, though, probably not ringworm. Gloria >--- Original Message --- >From : Diane Tyler[mailto:drty...@spenserslegacy.org] >Sent : 3/3/2010 6:23:45 PM >To : felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >Cc : >Subject : RE: Re: [Felvtalk] ringworm > >I've had lots of success using Program for ringworm. I've used it twice: this year and several years ago for groups of four or more cats. The dosage suggestions can be found at this website: http://www.vetinfo.com/cringwrm.html I know lots of people might not agree that this is an effective treatment, but again, it has worked for me and is certainly a lot less stressful than bathing or dipping. Good luck! Diane On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 5:54 PM, Emeraldkittee wrote: > just wondering if anyone had a FeLV baby with ringworm? Whimsy is not > inside yet, but has started to yank his own fur out - he's got a few red > spots suddenly that look similiar to scraped knees in people. I'm planning > on doing a skin scrape per my vet's instructions but I'm concerned if a) the > test takes time to send to a lab is ok to bring him in? b) I won't be able > to bathe him / nor do the sulfar dips, so it would have to be oral meds c) > can I treat him while he's outside for this? > > I can't risk our whole household being infected especially with two other > immune supressed kitties. > > ugh, this throws a curve ball into the plan. This just started about 1 wk > ago with lesions appearing about 3 days ago. I was hoping to get him back > to the vet and inside over the next week. > > Thanks so much, these posts are so helpful and interesting. > Shannon > > anyone else's experiences would be interesting to hear. > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > -- Diane Tyler Spenser's Legacy Animal Rescue www.SpensersLegacy.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] ringworm
Topically I've used Golden Seal for ringworm, and it works well. If that doesn't work I try Gentian Violet (which is very purple and messy but has always worked well). Orally I've used Grisiofulvin once or twice. I have one FIV kitty with skin issues right now and am using Sebazole (sp) and seems to work well for him. I get a wet rag and apply it topially, with warm water. Not sure what his skin problem is, though, probably not ringworm. Gloria >--- Original Message --- >From: Diane Tyler[mailto:drty...@spenserslegacy.org] >Sent: 3/3/2010 6:23:45 PM >To : felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >Cc : >Subject : RE: Re: [Felvtalk] ringworm > >I've had lots of success using Program for ringworm. I've used it twice: this year and several years ago for groups of four or more cats. The dosage suggestions can be found at this website: http://www.vetinfo.com/cringwrm.html I know lots of people might not agree that this is an effective treatment, but again, it has worked for me and is certainly a lot less stressful than bathing or dipping. Good luck! Diane On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 5:54 PM, Emeraldkittee wrote: > just wondering if anyone had a FeLV baby with ringworm? Whimsy is not > inside yet, but has started to yank his own fur out - he's got a few red > spots suddenly that look similiar to scraped knees in people. I'm planning > on doing a skin scrape per my vet's instructions but I'm concerned if a) the > test takes time to send to a lab is ok to bring him in? b) I won't be able > to bathe him / nor do the sulfar dips, so it would have to be oral meds c) > can I treat him while he's outside for this? > > I can't risk our whole household being infected especially with two other > immune supressed kitties. > > ugh, this throws a curve ball into the plan. This just started about 1 wk > ago with lesions appearing about 3 days ago. I was hoping to get him back > to the vet and inside over the next week. > > Thanks so much, these posts are so helpful and interesting. > Shannon > > anyone else's experiences would be interesting to hear. > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > -- Diane Tyler Spenser's Legacy Animal Rescue www.SpensersLegacy.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] ringworm
Topically I've used Golden Seal for ringworm, and it works well. If that doesn't work I try Gentian Violet (which is very purple and messy but has always worked well). Orally I've used Grisiofulvin once or twice. I have one FIV kitty with skin issues right now and am using Sebazole (sp) and seems to work well for him. I get a wet rag and apply it topially, with warm water. Not sure what his skin problem is, though, probably not ringworm. Gloria >--- Original Message --- >From: Diane Tyler[mailto:drty...@spenserslegacy.org] >Sent: 3/3/2010 6:23:45 PM >To : felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >Cc : >Subject : RE: Re: [Felvtalk] ringworm > >I've had lots of success using Program for ringworm. I've used it twice: this year and several years ago for groups of four or more cats. The dosage suggestions can be found at this website: http://www.vetinfo.com/cringwrm.html I know lots of people might not agree that this is an effective treatment, but again, it has worked for me and is certainly a lot less stressful than bathing or dipping. Good luck! Diane On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 5:54 PM, Emeraldkittee wrote: > just wondering if anyone had a FeLV baby with ringworm? Whimsy is not > inside yet, but has started to yank his own fur out - he's got a few red > spots suddenly that look similiar to scraped knees in people. I'm planning > on doing a skin scrape per my vet's instructions but I'm concerned if a) the > test takes time to send to a lab is ok to bring him in? b) I won't be able > to bathe him / nor do the sulfar dips, so it would have to be oral meds c) > can I treat him while he's outside for this? > > I can't risk our whole household being infected especially with two other > immune supressed kitties. > > ugh, this throws a curve ball into the plan. This just started about 1 wk > ago with lesions appearing about 3 days ago. I was hoping to get him back > to the vet and inside over the next week. > > Thanks so much, these posts are so helpful and interesting. > Shannon > > anyone else's experiences would be interesting to hear. > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > -- Diane Tyler Spenser's Legacy Animal Rescue www.SpensersLegacy.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] ringworm
I've used program in the past, too, & it worked wonders. Do be very careful about the meds you give for ringworm. I know there is a liquid that is toxic to FIV cats. Beth Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org --- On Wed, 3/3/10, Diane Tyler wrote: From: Diane Tyler Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ringworm To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, March 3, 2010, 7:23 PM I've had lots of success using Program for ringworm. I've used it twice: this year and several years ago for groups of four or more cats. The dosage suggestions can be found at this website: http://www.vetinfo.com/cringwrm.html I know lots of people might not agree that this is an effective treatment, but again, it has worked for me and is certainly a lot less stressful than bathing or dipping. Good luck! Diane On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 5:54 PM, Emeraldkittee wrote: > just wondering if anyone had a FeLV baby with ringworm? Whimsy is not > inside yet, but has started to yank his own fur out - he's got a few red > spots suddenly that look similiar to scraped knees in people. I'm planning > on doing a skin scrape per my vet's instructions but I'm concerned if a) the > test takes time to send to a lab is ok to bring him in? b) I won't be able > to bathe him / nor do the sulfar dips, so it would have to be oral meds c) > can I treat him while he's outside for this? > > I can't risk our whole household being infected especially with two other > immune supressed kitties. > > ugh, this throws a curve ball into the plan. This just started about 1 wk > ago with lesions appearing about 3 days ago. I was hoping to get him back > to the vet and inside over the next week. > > Thanks so much, these posts are so helpful and interesting. > Shannon > > anyone else's experiences would be interesting to hear. > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > -- Diane Tyler Spenser's Legacy Animal Rescue www.SpensersLegacy.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] ringworm
I've had lots of success using Program for ringworm. I've used it twice: this year and several years ago for groups of four or more cats. The dosage suggestions can be found at this website: http://www.vetinfo.com/cringwrm.html I know lots of people might not agree that this is an effective treatment, but again, it has worked for me and is certainly a lot less stressful than bathing or dipping. Good luck! Diane On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 5:54 PM, Emeraldkittee wrote: > just wondering if anyone had a FeLV baby with ringworm? Whimsy is not > inside yet, but has started to yank his own fur out - he's got a few red > spots suddenly that look similiar to scraped knees in people. I'm planning > on doing a skin scrape per my vet's instructions but I'm concerned if a) the > test takes time to send to a lab is ok to bring him in? b) I won't be able > to bathe him / nor do the sulfar dips, so it would have to be oral meds c) > can I treat him while he's outside for this? > > I can't risk our whole household being infected especially with two other > immune supressed kitties. > > ugh, this throws a curve ball into the plan. This just started about 1 wk > ago with lesions appearing about 3 days ago. I was hoping to get him back > to the vet and inside over the next week. > > Thanks so much, these posts are so helpful and interesting. > Shannon > > anyone else's experiences would be interesting to hear. > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > -- Diane Tyler Spenser's Legacy Animal Rescue www.SpensersLegacy.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] ringworm
just wondering if anyone had a FeLV baby with ringworm? Whimsy is not inside yet, but has started to yank his own fur out - he's got a few red spots suddenly that look similiar to scraped knees in people. I'm planning on doing a skin scrape per my vet's instructions but I'm concerned if a) the test takes time to send to a lab is ok to bring him in? b) I won't be able to bathe him / nor do the sulfar dips, so it would have to be oral meds c) can I treat him while he's outside for this? I can't risk our whole household being infected especially with two other immune supressed kitties. ugh, this throws a curve ball into the plan. This just started about 1 wk ago with lesions appearing about 3 days ago. I was hoping to get him back to the vet and inside over the next week. Thanks so much, these posts are so helpful and interesting. Shannon anyone else's experiences would be interesting to hear. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: Ringworm
i think i read someplace, or perhaps it's just folk wisdom, that the only thing that'll actually kill ringworm spores is a nuclear blast--and those tend to really ruin one's day. (there IS one form of ringworm that is, essentially, an ingrown kind that causes horrible, terrible, untreatable eruptions and abcesses, but it's only been documented in persians and himmies, and one dog, if i recall correctly there is ONE researcher in the country working on it i lost my darling gypsy to it last april 13th, but she had an early form of it for years before it was finally diagnosed, and despite it having erupted and being really really disgusting, and her living in a houseful of persians, NO ONE ELSE EVER GOT ANY VERSION of it. not only that, but there have been more than 40 cats, at least, in and out of the apartment i used to live in at the sanctuary, and none of THEM have ever gotten it either. so i guess i am more concerned about a nuclear accident than i am about a little ringyworm.) On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 5:36 PM, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Many thanks to everyone who has offered suggestions… I'm much less > panicking about this… and definitely do NOT plan on throwing out the rugs, > curtains, etc. First off, I gave up wall to wall carpet a long time ago and > only area rugs that can be sent to cleaning make it through the door—LOL. > And those small scatter rugs==well they have a short life expectancy in my > house anyway… > > > > *Christiane Biagi* > > *914-632-4672* > > *Cell: 913-720-6888* > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] * > > > > *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *MaryChristine > *Sent:* Friday, April 04, 2008 4:58 PM > *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > *Subject:* Re: Ringworm > > > > ringworm, like cockroaches and twinkies, will outlive us all, no matter > what we do. it sits backs and laughs at us all. > > there are a number of protocols listed on persian sites specifically for > dealing with it, as persians and himmies seem to be more susceptible to it > than other cats--a genetic link is suspected > > as carmen says, tho, everyday antifungal cream treats the symptomatic > cats, and the majority of the others won't get it anyway. first time i ever > dealt with it was in the FeLV kitten room we had five with small > patches, and we treated them--it went away, WITHOUT the other 45 or so > getting it. (i got it, mind you, but i have a compromised immune system. > i don't get it any longer.) > > if you go to some of the veterinary sites, and read through EVERYTHING, > and finally get to the bottom of the page, in the very fine print, you'll > see, "goes away on its own in three months, with or without treatment." > > so if you want to throw out all your curtains and rugs and clothing, and > shampoo all the cats weekly for months, and do the toothbrush tests at the > vet, and turn yourself and the cats green and stinky with lime-sulphur dip, > you can. > > there IS a laundry additive/cleaning solution additive that a persian > rescue swears by--all i have to do is figure out where the heck i saved the > durned link. > > incidentally, magic works on ringworm as well as anything else does--there > are all sorts of things that people claim will cure it that have been > completely disproven by research, but work for the people who believe in > them. so don't rule out that option, either. > > > > > On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 4:16 PM, Gloria Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I use Golden Seal on ringworm - works pretty well, unless it's in the > eyes, and don't use it there unless I have an "eye" formula. I buy an $8 > bottle(tincture) at the health food store. IT has a dropper, but sometimes > I just use s q-tip. > > > > I never do massive daily cleaning - don't have time. I treat it, it goes > away, I no longer have it. > > > > Had one little Persian with ringworm, that a groomer suggested a specific > type bath for - and it sure did work. Have to look it up to see what kind > of bath. > > > > GLoria > > > > > > On Apr 3, 2008, at 1:25 PM, Chris wrote: > > A bit OT but I figure if anyone has had experience & is knowledgeable, > it would be someone here… Ringworm—suddenly have an outbreak; have 6 cats > presently (1 waiting for adopter)—only a couple seem to have it—long story > of how it managed to get in but now I'm really lost. I have meds from vet > to apply & shampoo. BUT how do I clean!I borrowed a Wood's Lamp from > someone and of course I see things glowing everywhere Is the lamp > good to check for spores on fabric (
RE: Ringworm
Many thanks to everyone who has offered suggestions. I'm much less panicking about this. and definitely do NOT plan on throwing out the rugs, curtains, etc. First off, I gave up wall to wall carpet a long time ago and only area rugs that can be sent to cleaning make it through the door-LOL. And those small scatter rugs==well they have a short life expectancy in my house anyway. Christiane Biagi 914-632-4672 Cell: 913-720-6888 [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MaryChristine Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 4:58 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Ringworm ringworm, like cockroaches and twinkies, will outlive us all, no matter what we do. it sits backs and laughs at us all. there are a number of protocols listed on persian sites specifically for dealing with it, as persians and himmies seem to be more susceptible to it than other cats--a genetic link is suspected as carmen says, tho, everyday antifungal cream treats the symptomatic cats, and the majority of the others won't get it anyway. first time i ever dealt with it was in the FeLV kitten room we had five with small patches, and we treated them--it went away, WITHOUT the other 45 or so getting it. (i got it, mind you, but i have a compromised immune system. i don't get it any longer.) if you go to some of the veterinary sites, and read through EVERYTHING, and finally get to the bottom of the page, in the very fine print, you'll see, "goes away on its own in three months, with or without treatment." so if you want to throw out all your curtains and rugs and clothing, and shampoo all the cats weekly for months, and do the toothbrush tests at the vet, and turn yourself and the cats green and stinky with lime-sulphur dip, you can. there IS a laundry additive/cleaning solution additive that a persian rescue swears by--all i have to do is figure out where the heck i saved the durned link. incidentally, magic works on ringworm as well as anything else does--there are all sorts of things that people claim will cure it that have been completely disproven by research, but work for the people who believe in them. so don't rule out that option, either. On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 4:16 PM, Gloria Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I use Golden Seal on ringworm - works pretty well, unless it's in the eyes, and don't use it there unless I have an "eye" formula. I buy an $8 bottle(tincture) at the health food store. IT has a dropper, but sometimes I just use s q-tip. I never do massive daily cleaning - don't have time. I treat it, it goes away, I no longer have it. Had one little Persian with ringworm, that a groomer suggested a specific type bath for - and it sure did work. Have to look it up to see what kind of bath. GLoria On Apr 3, 2008, at 1:25 PM, Chris wrote: A bit OT but I figure if anyone has had experience & is knowledgeable, it would be someone here. Ringworm-suddenly have an outbreak; have 6 cats presently (1 waiting for adopter)-only a couple seem to have it-long story of how it managed to get in but now I'm really lost. I have meds from vet to apply & shampoo. BUT how do I clean!I borrowed a Wood's Lamp from someone and of course I see things glowing everywhere Is the lamp good to check for spores on fabric (clothes, rugs, etc) & walls or is it only for checking living things (me and the cats-LOL). I am starting to scrub and clean but now wonder, do I do that massive cleaning every day? I can't keep the cats confined though I did close them out of one of the bedrooms. Outside of that, they're everywhere and NOT trained to stay off furniture-LOL. Any tips, suggestions, etc. would be so gratefully appreciated. Christiane Biagi 914-632-4672 Cell: 913-720-6888 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
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ringworm, like cockroaches and twinkies, will outlive us all, no matter what we do. it sits backs and laughs at us all. there are a number of protocols listed on persian sites specifically for dealing with it, as persians and himmies seem to be more susceptible to it than other cats--a genetic link is suspected as carmen says, tho, everyday antifungal cream treats the symptomatic cats, and the majority of the others won't get it anyway. first time i ever dealt with it was in the FeLV kitten room we had five with small patches, and we treated them--it went away, WITHOUT the other 45 or so getting it. (i got it, mind you, but i have a compromised immune system. i don't get it any longer.) if you go to some of the veterinary sites, and read through EVERYTHING, and finally get to the bottom of the page, in the very fine print, you'll see, "goes away on its own in three months, with or without treatment." so if you want to throw out all your curtains and rugs and clothing, and shampoo all the cats weekly for months, and do the toothbrush tests at the vet, and turn yourself and the cats green and stinky with lime-sulphur dip, you can. there IS a laundry additive/cleaning solution additive that a persian rescue swears by--all i have to do is figure out where the heck i saved the durned link. incidentally, magic works on ringworm as well as anything else does--there are all sorts of things that people claim will cure it that have been completely disproven by research, but work for the people who believe in them. so don't rule out that option, either. On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 4:16 PM, Gloria Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I use Golden Seal on ringworm - works pretty well, unless it's in the > eyes, and don't use it there unless I have an "eye" formula. I buy an $8 > bottle(tincture) at the health food store. IT has a dropper, but sometimes > I just use s q-tip. > I never do massive daily cleaning - don't have time. I treat it, it goes > away, I no longer have it. > > Had one little Persian with ringworm, that a groomer suggested a specific > type bath for - and it sure did work. Have to look it up to see what kind > of bath. > > GLoria > > > On Apr 3, 2008, at 1:25 PM, Chris wrote: > > A bit OT but I figure if anyone has had experience & is knowledgeable, it > would be someone here… Ringworm—suddenly have an outbreak; have 6 cats > presently (1 waiting for adopter)—only a couple seem to have it—long story > of how it managed to get in but now I'm really lost. I have meds from vet > to apply & shampoo. BUT how do I clean!I borrowed a Wood's Lamp from > someone and of course I see things glowing everywhere Is the lamp > good to check for spores on fabric (clothes, rugs, etc) & walls or is it > only for checking living things (me and the cats—LOL). I am starting to > scrub and clean but now wonder, do I do that massive cleaning every day? I > can't keep the cats confined though I did close them out of one of the > bedrooms. Outside of that, they're everywhere and NOT trained to stay off > furniture-LOL. Any tips, suggestions, etc. would be so gratefully > appreciated. > > *Christiane Biagi* > *914-632-4672* > *Cell: 913-720-6888* > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
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I saw c on the internet on a site at ValleyVets.com, for $12.95 a gallon ( it is mixed with water-diluted)phone 800-419-9524. You can get it through your veterinarian as ours uses it exclusively in their office to disinfect. But it might be more expensive? perhaps. CarmenI saw chlorhexidine on ValleyVet.com online today. It was $12.95 a gallon and a gallon goes a Ln way. It is diluted with water. Phone was 800-419-9524 Carmen and furballs at C & W Rustic Hollow Shelter, Inc. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 16:29:01 -0400Subject: Re: RingwormTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Where can you buy "Chlorhexidine? My feed stores don't carry it. I would like to have it on hand! TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTSSIAMESE & COLLIE RESCUETerrie Mohr-Forkerhttp://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescuehttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.htmlhttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.htmlhttp://www.felineleukemia.org/http://www.petloss.com/TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTShttps://www.paypal.com/ Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. _ More immediate than e-mail? Get instant access with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_instantaccess_042008
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Oh by the way anything that will kill ringworm besides bleach! Not the topical stuff only the stuff used to kill the spores in carpet and etc. If it happens to me want to do the area ASAP! Thanks! TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS SIAMESE & COLLIE RESCUE Terrie Mohr-Forker _http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/_ (http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/) _http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescue_ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescue) _http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.html_ (http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.html) _http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.html_ (http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.html) _http://www.felineleukemia.org/_ (http://www.felineleukemia.org/) _http://www.petloss.com/_ (http://www.petloss.com/) TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS _https://www.paypal.com/_ (https://www.paypal.com/) **Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv000316)
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I use Golden Seal on ringworm - works pretty well, unless it's in the eyes, and don't use it there unless I have an "eye" formula. I buy an $8 bottle(tincture) at the health food store. IT has a dropper, but sometimes I just use s q-tip. I never do massive daily cleaning - don't have time. I treat it, it goes away, I no longer have it. Had one little Persian with ringworm, that a groomer suggested a specific type bath for - and it sure did work. Have to look it up to see what kind of bath. GLoria On Apr 3, 2008, at 1:25 PM, Chris wrote: A bit OT but I figure if anyone has had experience & is knowledgeable, it would be someone here… Ringworm—suddenly have an outbreak; have 6 cats presently (1 waiting for adopter)—only a couple seem to have it—long story of how it managed to get in but now I’m really lost. I have meds from vet to apply & shampoo. BUT how do I clean!I borrowed a Wood’s Lamp from someone and of course I see things glowing everywhere Is the lamp good to check for spores on fabric (clothes, rugs, etc) & walls or is it only for checking living things (me and the cats—LOL). I am starting to scrub and clean but now wonder, do I do that massive cleaning every day? I can’t keep the cats confined though I did close them out of one of the bedrooms. Outside of that, they’re everywhere and NOT trained to stay off furniture-LOL. Any tips, suggestions, etc. would be so gratefully appreciated. Christiane Biagi 914-632-4672 Cell: 913-720-6888 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hey, Laurie, you too! carmen From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: RingwormDate: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 13:27:46 -0600 Hi Carmen, nice to see you here! :-) Laurie - Original Message - From: Carmen Conklin To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 12:47 PM Subject: RE: Ringworm Chris, saw your note on ringworm. I'm new here but have bouts of ringworm at our sanctuary occasionally, particularly with my FIV felines as it is harder for them to fight off. It will resolve itself on its own in time, but for cleaning, I use a spray on furniture, bedding, etc-Chlorhexadine which is a terrific sanitizer disinfectant to have on hand. You can spray it on cat food dishes to clean out and it is not harmful to the cats. We spray it on clothing, hands, etc. It will definitely help the environment. Using Program liquid may be helpful in getting rid of the cats ringworm. We simply get over the counter store brand antifungal cream to use as it is way less expensive than through the vets. Many cats are immune and won't get it even if around other cats with ringworm. Most of our FIV cats never get it even with three that do have it. Ringworm is always present in the air around us and the cats most susceptible are medically compromised kitties, senior cats or young kittens. People can get it and not even be around animals. That happened in the middle of Chicago to a friend of mine. Anyway, the disinfectant spray is terrific to use, but common household bleach helps too, though you can't spray that on furniture, etc. Hope this helps. I know others will have other ideas. Carmen From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: RingwormDate: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 14:25:59 -0400 A bit OT but I figure if anyone has had experience & is knowledgeable, it would be someone here… Ringworm—suddenly have an outbreak; have 6 cats presently (1 waiting for adopter)—only a couple seem to have it—long story of how it managed to get in but now I’m really lost. I have meds from vet to apply & shampoo. BUT how do I clean!I borrowed a Wood’s Lamp from someone and of course I see things glowing everywhere Is the lamp good to check for spores on fabric (clothes, rugs, etc) & walls or is it only for checking living things (me and the cats—LOL). I am starting to scrub and clean but now wonder, do I do that massive cleaning every day? I can’t keep the cats confined though I did close them out of one of the bedrooms. Outside of that, they’re everywhere and NOT trained to stay off furniture-LOL. Any tips, suggestions, etc. would be so gratefully appreciated. Christiane Biagi 914-632-4672 Cell: 913-720-6888 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use video conversation to talk face-to-face with Windows Live Messenger. Get started! _ Pack up or back up–use SkyDrive to transfer files or keep extra copies. Learn how. hthttp://www.windowslive.com/skydrive/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_skydrive_packup_042008
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Hi Carmen, nice to see you here! :-) Laurie - Original Message - From: Carmen Conklin To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 12:47 PM Subject: RE: Ringworm Chris, saw your note on ringworm. I'm new here but have bouts of ringworm at our sanctuary occasionally, particularly with my FIV felines as it is harder for them to fight off. It will resolve itself on its own in time, but for cleaning, I use a spray on furniture, bedding, etc-Chlorhexadine which is a terrific sanitizer disinfectant to have on hand. You can spray it on cat food dishes to clean out and it is not harmful to the cats. We spray it on clothing, hands, etc. It will definitely help the environment. Using Program liquid may be helpful in getting rid of the cats ringworm. We simply get over the counter store brand antifungal cream to use as it is way less expensive than through the vets. Many cats are immune and won't get it even if around other cats with ringworm. Most of our FIV cats never get it even with three that do have it. Ringworm is always present in the air around us and the cats most susceptible are medically compromised kitties, senior cats or young kittens. People can get it and not even be around animals. That happened in the middle of Chicago to a friend of mine. Anyway, the disinfectant spray is terrific to use, but common household bleach helps too, though you can't spray that on furniture, etc. Hope this helps. I know others will have other ideas. Carmen From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Ringworm Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 14:25:59 -0400 A bit OT but I figure if anyone has had experience & is knowledgeable, it would be someone here… Ringworm—suddenly have an outbreak; have 6 cats presently (1 waiting for adopter)—only a couple seem to have it—long story of how it managed to get in but now I’m really lost. I have meds from vet to apply & shampoo. BUT how do I clean!I borrowed a Wood’s Lamp from someone and of course I see things glowing everywhere Is the lamp good to check for spores on fabric (clothes, rugs, etc) & walls or is it only for checking living things (me and the cats—LOL). I am starting to scrub and clean but now wonder, do I do that massive cleaning every day? I can’t keep the cats confined though I did close them out of one of the bedrooms. Outside of that, they’re everywhere and NOT trained to stay off furniture-LOL. Any tips, suggestions, etc. would be so gratefully appreciated. Christiane Biagi 914-632-4672 Cell: 913-720-6888 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Use video conversation to talk face-to-face with Windows Live Messenger. Get started!
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Hi Chris, Well, woods lamps are blacklights:) Things glowing everywhere could be a lot of things. Blacklights will detect phosphors used in ordinary clothes detergent, for example: http://science.howstuffworks.com/black-light.htm They also pick up urine and semen. I'm not sure about blood. So just because things are glowing doesn't mean it is ringworm - it could be the detergent you are using. Also, blacklights are effective about 50% of the time in detecting ringworm - about as good as guessing:) It is unfortunate you can't keep the cats confined. When I have a ringworm outbreak, I confine the affected cats to the bathroom, and then bleach every day. On 4/3/08, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > A bit OT but I figure if anyone has had experience & is knowledgeable, it > would be someone here… Ringworm—suddenly have an outbreak; have 6 cats > presently (1 waiting for adopter)—only a couple seem to have it—long story > of how it managed to get in but now I'm really lost. I have meds from vet > to apply & shampoo. BUT how do I clean!I borrowed a Wood's Lamp from > someone and of course I see things glowing everywhere Is the lamp > good to check for spores on fabric (clothes, rugs, etc) & walls or is it > only for checking living things (me and the cats—LOL). I am starting to > scrub and clean but now wonder, do I do that massive cleaning every day? I > can't keep the cats confined though I did close them out of one of the > bedrooms. Outside of that, they're everywhere and NOT trained to stay off > furniture-LOL. Any tips, suggestions, etc. would be so gratefully > appreciated. > > > > *Christiane Biagi* > > *914-632-4672* > > *Cell: 913-720-6888* > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] * > > > -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 Check out our Memsaic! http://www.memsaic.com/app/launch.cfm?sid=08D2CAB2A6E9 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Please help Clarissa! http://rescuties.chipin.com/clarissasheart http://www.change.org/rescuties
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Chris, saw your note on ringworm. I'm new here but have bouts of ringworm at our sanctuary occasionally, particularly with my FIV felines as it is harder for them to fight off. It will resolve itself on its own in time, but for cleaning, I use a spray on furniture, bedding, etc-Chlorhexadine which is a terrific sanitizer disinfectant to have on hand. You can spray it on cat food dishes to clean out and it is not harmful to the cats. We spray it on clothing, hands, etc. It will definitely help the environment. Using Program liquid may be helpful in getting rid of the cats ringworm. We simply get over the counter store brand antifungal cream to use as it is way less expensive than through the vets. Many cats are immune and won't get it even if around other cats with ringworm. Most of our FIV cats never get it even with three that do have it. Ringworm is always present in the air around us and the cats most susceptible are medically compromised kitties, senior cats or young kittens. People can get it and not even be around animals. That happened in the middle of Chicago to a friend of mine. Anyway, the disinfectant spray is terrific to use, but common household bleach helps too, though you can't spray that on furniture, etc. Hope this helps. I know others will have other ideas. Carmen From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: RingwormDate: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 14:25:59 -0400 A bit OT but I figure if anyone has had experience & is knowledgeable, it would be someone here… Ringworm—suddenly have an outbreak; have 6 cats presently (1 waiting for adopter)—only a couple seem to have it—long story of how it managed to get in but now I’m really lost. I have meds from vet to apply & shampoo. BUT how do I clean!I borrowed a Wood’s Lamp from someone and of course I see things glowing everywhere Is the lamp good to check for spores on fabric (clothes, rugs, etc) & walls or is it only for checking living things (me and the cats—LOL). I am starting to scrub and clean but now wonder, do I do that massive cleaning every day? I can’t keep the cats confined though I did close them out of one of the bedrooms. Outside of that, they’re everywhere and NOT trained to stay off furniture-LOL. Any tips, suggestions, etc. would be so gratefully appreciated. Christiane Biagi 914-632-4672 Cell: 913-720-6888 [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Use video conversation to talk face-to-face with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/connect_your_way.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_messenger_video_042008
Ringworm
A bit OT but I figure if anyone has had experience & is knowledgeable, it would be someone here. Ringworm-suddenly have an outbreak; have 6 cats presently (1 waiting for adopter)-only a couple seem to have it-long story of how it managed to get in but now I'm really lost. I have meds from vet to apply & shampoo. BUT how do I clean!I borrowed a Wood's Lamp from someone and of course I see things glowing everywhere Is the lamp good to check for spores on fabric (clothes, rugs, etc) & walls or is it only for checking living things (me and the cats-LOL). I am starting to scrub and clean but now wonder, do I do that massive cleaning every day? I can't keep the cats confined though I did close them out of one of the bedrooms. Outside of that, they're everywhere and NOT trained to stay off furniture-LOL. Any tips, suggestions, etc. would be so gratefully appreciated. Christiane Biagi 914-632-4672 Cell: 913-720-6888 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Kerry - -Something for Bandy's ringworm maybe???
Thanks Belinda, I will check that out..I think I saw that in one of my natural books..I am putting goldenseal on it at times, too..I have ordered the gel from the site that you sent last week so that should be here in a day or so...I also called his internal med specialist and asked about giving him the fulvicin orally which I didn't want to do cause it is so toxic...It may be the only way at this point...She said to watch his stool, appetite and if he vomits...then the dose would need to be lowered or stopped...I really hate to make him sick like that as that is one thing that hasn't bothered him..I think he has an iron stomach with all the stuff he has had in the last year..It is supposed to be given for 40 days...I won't do that..I think I am going to start the IR next Monday.. He is suppose to go to the eye doctor in Dallas on Thurs, but I may not go since he isn't feeling well and it is an all day ordeal..at least 7 hrs on the road by the time we get there and back..Way too much stress on him... Anyway, thank you again and I will look into to this.. Kerry and Bandy Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free.
Kerry -- Something For Bandy's ringworm maybe???
Kerry this was on one of my other lists, thought I'd send it to you to check into for Bandy's ringworm problem, I've never used it so don't know anything about it personally. >>>> I am wondering if you can get calendula officinalis ( marigold) Medicinal Use: here from one of the many websites about calendula http://www.gardenguides.com/herbs/marigold.htm << antiseptic, and improves blood flow to the affected area. As an antifungal agent, it can be used to treat athlete's foot, ringworm, and candida. The tincture applied neat to cold sores encourages healing >>> <<<<< -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting & web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Bandy and the ringworm
My old vet had a friend of mine dab diluted clorox on the places with a cotton ball. Since it's on Bandy's face you would have to be extra careful though. She practically bathed those kittens in clorox (diluted 1 to 10 I think). tonyaGloria Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: When I use the golden seal, I put it on every day. The kind without alcohol, can go on the face too. The nutritional support sounds good - the colostrum and interferon etc.I was just looking at some other alternative stuff for one of my kitties, and found this, which mentions ringworm - I didn't know this kind of stuff was anti-fungal too -http://www.nzymes.com/ product_blackleaf_black_walnut_olive_leaf_tincture.htmI've also been told to use 1/4 of a Program tablet with cats, for ringworm.Good luck.GloriaOn Jun 14, 2006, at 8:16 AM, Kerry Roach wrote:> Hi everyone,> We have been away for awhile, just too much going on with this > ringworm and work...it is all I can do to tend to all of that...> I am sorry for the losses some of you have had recently...you are > always in our thoughts and prayers...> Anyway, bandy's entire face has ringworm on it and I have used > almost the whole bottle of conofite...they said I am going to have > to give him the fulvicin to get rid of it..I just hate that, but I > may have no other choice. The eye drops with the pred in them are > keeping it from going away faster..or that is what his eye spec > said would happen..I try to keep it off the best I can with cotton > balls then put the topical meds for the ringworm on there last with > some other eye ointment to keep down infection..Inky (my 19yr old) > had it, too, but I his has healed ok as it was on his back..and the > hair has already come back...But Bandy is miserable...He has hurt > his leg again due to climbing I guess..He is eating good and fever > seems to be about the same..he gets that about every 7 to 9 > days..so I still give him 1/2 dex pill...and it goes away..> I forgot to mentiion I think a few weeks ago, we did a complete > blood panel on Bandy and it was the first one since last Aug...His > PCV was 30.4...so something must be working for that...he is making > rbc so that is a positive thing for sure...> His eyes are clear and he can see some...the pupils don't > move...they are stuck in a fixed position, but as long as he is on > the pred drops, he should be able to see some..> He is eating good and playing some..> I still give him lysine from the pill on each meal with some folic > acid and bovine colostrum...also Co Q10...He is on interferon same > as since last Aug. and 1/2 cc baytril.> Please let me know if there is anything else I can try for the > ringworm. I put some goldenseal on it too...I just don't know what > else to do..I feel so bad for him as I know he hates all the meds > for the ringworm..> Head butts to all your furr babies..and hoping everyone is doing > well today..> Kerry, Bandy, Inky and Angels Buster, Little Rascal and Snoopy> __> Do You Yahoo!?> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around> http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Bandy and the ringworm
I am going to order the IR on Sunday myself to get it here by Tues..I want to get this started asap..Will it help his inflammation with his legs, too? Bandy's eye spec. said that the prednisolone eye drops would irritate the ringworm..It would make it linger longer..in other words it is making it more difficult to get rid of and why it has spread more on his face..It started as a small spot on his nose now it is has gone under and over both eyes...too close for me so I am really careful when I use the eye drops...I use a wet cotton ball to catch excess then I put his ringworm meds on and some other eye ointment around his eyes...I used neosporin on Inky, but can't on Bandy since it is too close to his eyes...It does seem to be doing better, but that really isn't my top concern right now...as you all know.. He did drink some water on his own today and ate a couple of spoon fulls. I am putting him back on the transdermal appetite stimulant as well...He went to the litter box twice while I was away and made it back to his bed so that made me feel better cause yesterday, he would just fall over and I would have to put him back.. Anyway, wish us luck...I am going to feed him now...and give him his meds... I will try to post what is going on as soon as I can... Thanks for all your help, Kerry and Bandy Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min.
Re: Bandy and the ringworm-- depo
That is REALLY strange, because steroids usually feed fungi and make them worse, I think. They help with allergies, though. Michelle In a message dated 6/15/2006 8:42:15 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is not the same situation, but Spaz once had a fungal ear infection which the vet attempted to treat with Conofite, and it did absolutely nothing. He then gave her a shot of Depo-Medrol, and that gave excellent results.
Re: Bandy and the ringworm
Kerry, maybe you should have her get it overnighted by Revival so it will get there on Tuesday. Michelle
Re: Bandy and the ringworm
the humane society gave it to me when the kittens i was fostering got ringworm and 2 other vets recomended it. I thought the program is just for fleas. Michelle
Re: Bandy and the ringworm
Thanks everyone for all the advice...Now I just need to figure out what to try...Belinda, I checked out those links. I may order from the petsbestrx...It sounded good, but I wish I knew someone that had tried it.. Right now Bandy is very sick..I took him to the vet on Thurs since he can't even stand up...She took an xray of both front and rear since they are both giving him a problem..He also had almost 105 temp..I think he has an infection somewhere..He won't eat or drink...I did get him to eat some baby food beef, maybe couple of teaspoons..and he will drink alittle water, but not much..they gave him some sub-q fluids. I think I am going to take him in again today. She gave him an adequan shot, dex shot and polyflex..I upped his baytril to the full dose, but I think he needs something else.. Michelle, I told her about the immuno-regulin and she is going to order it next week...I need to know all I can about it...and she asked me to find out from you guys, what dosages you used and anything else we might need to know.. I have read what it says here at the home page... .5cc IV twice weekly and then .5cc IV weekly until symptoms subside...Is that a good start or what did you use? Please let me know and I will let her know on Monday...I hope we haven't waited too long..I am really scared for him right now.. Thank you all again, Kerry and Bandy Do you Yahoo!? Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail Beta.
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For cats, it's a VERY tiny amount, like 1/8 teaspoon once a day. I didn't have Bones on it for very long, she did great, and really, never needed it, I think. I was thinking it might help, but she really bounced back fast on her own! She's doing awesome... she would LOVE a HOME with someone.. she's up for adoption. There's pictures on my adopt page, down in my sig. You couldn't find a better little cat, all the cattitude of a Siamese, but snugglier. And she has the cute raspy type of meow. Phaewryn PLEASE Adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!!http://ucat.us/adopt.html DONATE: We could really use a power saw (for construction), a digital camera (for pictures) and HOMES for CATS! No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.0/366 - Release Date: 6/15/2006
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Phaewryn, Thanks for the idea about the MSM I have some in the house because I give it to Zevon, (our GSD with degenerative spinal mylopathy). What dosage did you use for Bones? How is our girl these days? Starman has been having a terrible time with itching lately. I've tried a number of things, one of the effective things that surprised me was using corn starch baby powder on his irritated skin. Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree, the ringworm could be so bad in his case due to immune system issues. I'd definitely do anything I could to boost his immune system. I didn't see vitamin C on your list of things you're feeding him. I have NO idea if this is safe for sick cats or not (or if it might do anything to his eye issues), so ask around, BUT, I cured more than one dog of severe flea allergy (oozing, bleeding, open, scabby, nasty looking skin) with supplementing MSM. It seems to have some unknown anti-inflammatory properties. I know it's safe for dogs, horses, and if labeled for cats, healthy cats, not sure about cats with immune problems like FELV and/or FIV. I can assure you it CAN work miracles in some cases, I have seen it myself, for dogs with flea dermatitis, and for arthritic horses. FosterSmith.com sells a few kinds labeled for use in cats. In fact, I used it on Bones for a while (it is also wonderful for arthritis) for her back problems. It wont cure the ringworm, but it may help with much of the inflammation he's getting because of it. And who knows, it might help his eye and fever. Do check with your vet though, to be sure it wont interact badly with his other meds. Poor guy, he's had it bad for quite some time now! Did you get one of those cape/cone collars to keep him from scratching at his head? Phaewryn
Re: Bandy and the ringworm
This is not the same situation, but Spaz once had a fungal ear infection which the vet attempted to treat with Conofite, and it did absolutely nothing. He then gave her a shot of Depo-Medrol, and that gave excellent results. Krishttp://www.spazstory.zoomshare.com - Original Message - From: Kerry Roach To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 9:16 AM Subject: Bandy and the ringworm Hi everyone, We have been away for awhile, just too much going on with this ringworm and work...it is all I can do to tend to all of that... I am sorry for the losses some of you have had recently...you are always in our thoughts and prayers... Anyway, bandy's entire face has ringworm on it and I have used almost the whole bottle of conofite...they said I am going to have to give him the fulvicin to get rid of it..I just hate that, but I may have no other choice. The eye drops with the pred in them are keeping it from going away faster..or that is what his eye spec said would happen..I try to keep it off the best I can with cotton balls then put the topical meds for the ringworm on there last with some other eye ointment to keep down infection..Inky (my 19yr old) had it, too, but I his has healed ok as it was on his back..and the hair has already come back...But Bandy is miserable...He has hurt his leg again due to climbing I guess..He is eating good and fever seems to be about the same..he gets that about every 7 to 9 days..so I still give him 1/2 dex pill...and it goes away.. I forgot to mentiion I think a few weeks ago, we did a complete blood panel on Bandy and it was the first one since last Aug...His PCV was 30.4...so something must be working for that...he is making rbc so that is a positive thing for sure... His eyes are clear and he can see some...the pupils don't move...they are stuck in a fixed position, but as long as he is on the pred drops, he should be able to see some.. He is eating good and playing some.. I still give him lysine from the pill on each meal with some folic acid and bovine colostrum...also Co Q10...He is on interferon same as since last Aug. and 1/2 cc baytril. Please let me know if there is anything else I can try for the ringworm. I put some goldenseal on it too...I just don't know what else to do..I feel so bad for him as I know he hates all the meds for the ringworm.. Head butts to all your furr babies..and hoping everyone is doing well today.. Kerry, Bandy, Inky and Angels Buster, Little Rascal and Snoopy __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Bandy and the ringworm
I agree, the ringworm could be so bad in his case due to immune system issues. I'd definitely do anything I could to boost his immune system. I didn't see vitamin C on your list of things you're feeding him. I have NO idea if this is safe for sick cats or not (or if it might do anything to his eye issues), so ask around, BUT, I cured more than one dog of severe flea allergy (oozing, bleeding, open, scabby, nasty looking skin) with supplementing MSM. It seems to have some unknown anti-inflammatory properties. I know it's safe for dogs, horses, and if labeled for cats, healthy cats, not sure about cats with immune problems like FELV and/or FIV. I can assure you it CAN work miracles in some cases, I have seen it myself, for dogs with flea dermatitis, and for arthritic horses. FosterSmith.com sells a few kinds labeled for use in cats. In fact, I used it on Bones for a while (it is also wonderful for arthritis) for her back problems. It wont cure the ringworm, but it may help with much of the inflammation he's getting because of it. And who knows, it might help his eye and fever. Do check with your vet though, to be sure it wont interact badly with his other meds. Poor guy, he's had it bad for quite some time now! Did you get one of those cape/cone collars to keep him from scratching at his head? Phaewryn PLEASE Adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!!http://ucat.us/adopt.html DONATE: We could really use a power saw (for construction), a digital camera (for pictures) and HOMES for CATS! No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.4/363 - Release Date: 6/13/2006
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Actually, I am almost positive that someone said a long time ago that the Immuno-regulin helped her cat kick ringworm. I think ringworm gets more of a hold when cats have suppressed immune symptoms, like with FeLV, and the I-R gives the immune system a quick boost to help fight it. Maybe it would help the fever at the same time. Michelle
Re: Bandy and the ringworm
I thought the program is just for fleas. Michelle In a message dated 6/14/2006 6:27:12 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: the program does not work for ringworm. all 8 here had it over the holidays and after a month of no results we used a spray and shampoo made by malaseb. for the face you use the spray on a cloth and wipe on their face. unfortunatly the spores can live in the house for up to 18 months. (so they can reinfect durring that time) theres some informative websites out there on cleanup in the house ect. i know what your going through ! i bathed 8 twice a week ! the spray alone may help. if you want to try it out i can mail you a bottle. (have a couple left from our bout with ringworm) karen
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the program does not work for ringworm. all 8 here had it over the holidays and after a month of no results we used a spray and shampoo made by malaseb. for the face you use the spray on a cloth and wipe on their face. unfortunatly the spores can live in the house for up to 18 months. (so they can reinfect durring that time) theres some informative websites out there on cleanup in the house ect. i know what your going through ! i bathed 8 twice a week ! the spray alone may help. if you want to try it out i can mail you a bottle. (have a couple left from our bout with ringworm) karen >When I use the golden seal, I put it on every day. The kind without > alcohol, can go on the face too. The nutritional support sounds >good - the colostrum and interferon etc.>>I was just looking at some other alternative stuff for one of my >kitties, and found this, which mentions ringworm - I didn't know >this kind of stuff was anti-fungal too ->http://www.nzymes.com/ >product_blackleaf_black_walnut_olive_leaf_tincture.htm>>I've also been told to use 1/4 of a Program tablet with cats, for >ringworm.>>Good luck.>>Gloria>>>On Jun 14, 2006, at 8:16 AM, Kerry Roach wrote:>>>Hi everyone,>>We have been away for awhile, just too much going on with this >>ringworm and work...it is all I can do to tend to all of that...>>I am sorry for the losses some of you have had recently...you are >>always in our thoughts and prayers...>>Anyway, bandy's entire face has ringworm on it and I have used >>almost the whole bottle of conofite...they said I am going to have >>to give him the fulvicin to get rid of it..I just hate that, but I >>may have no other choice. The eye drops with the pred in them are >>keeping it from going away faster..or that is what his eye spec >>said would happen..I try to keep it off the best I can with cotton >>balls then put the topical meds for the ringworm on there last with >> some other eye ointment to keep down infection..Inky (my 19yr >>old) had it, too, but I his has healed ok as it was on his >>back..and the hair has already come back...But Bandy is >>miserable...He has hurt his leg again due to climbing I guess..He >>is eating good and fever seems to be about the same..he gets that >>about every 7 to 9 days..so I still give him 1/2 dex pill...and it >>goes away..>>I forgot to mentiion I think a few weeks ago, we did a complete >>blood panel on Bandy and it was the first one since last Aug...His >>PCV was 30.4...so something must be working for that...he is making >> rbc so that is a positive thing for sure...>>His eyes are clear and he can see some...the pupils don't >>move...they are stuck in a fixed position, but as long as he is on >>the pred drops, he should be able to see some..>>He is eating good and playing some..>>I still give him lysine from the pill on each meal with some folic >>acid and bovine colostrum...also Co Q10...He is on interferon same >>as since last Aug. and 1/2 cc baytril.>>Please let me know if there is anything else I can try for the >>ringworm. I put some goldenseal on it too...I just don't know what >> else to do..I feel so bad for him as I know he hates all the meds >> for the ringworm..>>Head butts to all your furr babies..and hoping everyone is doing >>well today..>>Kerry, Bandy, Inky and Angels Buster, Little Rascal and Snoopy>>__>>Do You Yahoo!?>>Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around>>http://mail.yahoo.com>>
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Kerry, It's good to hear from you. I was just thinking about you and Bandy and all your babies. I'm so sorry to hear Bandy hasn't kicked the darn ringworm yet, poor baby, (and poor you!). I'm glad he's eating, but sorry to hear you guys haven't kicked those fevers yet. Hooray that his blood count was better! It's such a roller coaster ride, isn't it? You're such a good mom. I know how dedicated you are to your sweethearts and how hard it is on you to watch them suffer in any way. Many prayers coming your way for health and happiness for all of you, Nina Kerry Roach wrote: Hi everyone, We have been away for awhile, just too much going on with this ringworm and work...it is all I can do to tend to all of that... I am sorry for the losses some of you have had recently...you are always in our thoughts and prayers... Anyway, bandy's entire face has ringworm on it and I have used almost the whole bottle of conofite...they said I am going to have to give him the fulvicin to get rid of it..I just hate that, but I may have no other choice. The eye drops with the pred in them are keeping it from going away faster..or that is what his eye spec said would happen..I try to keep it off the best I can with cotton balls then put the topical meds for the ringworm on there last with some other eye ointment to keep down infection..Inky (my 19yr old) had it, too, but I his has healed ok as it was on his back..and the hair has already come back...But Bandy is miserable...He has hurt his leg again due to climbing I guess..He is eating good and fever seems to be about the same..he gets that about every 7 to 9 days..so I still give him 1/2 dex pill...and it goes away.. I forgot to mentiion I think a few weeks ago, we did a complete blood panel on Bandy and it was the first one since last Aug...His PCV was 30.4...so something must be working for that...he is making rbc so that is a positive thing for sure... His eyes are clear and he can see some...the pupils don't move...they are stuck in a fixed position, but as long as he is on the pred drops, he should be able to see some.. He is eating good and playing some.. I still give him lysine from the pill on each meal with some folic acid and bovine colostrum...also Co Q10...He is on interferon same as since last Aug. and 1/2 cc baytril. Please let me know if there is anything else I can try for the ringworm. I put some goldenseal on it too...I just don't know what else to do..I feel so bad for him as I know he hates all the meds for the ringworm.. Head butts to all your furr babies..and hoping everyone is doing well today.. Kerry, Bandy, Inky and Angels Buster, Little Rascal and Snoopy __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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Hi Kerry, Sorry Bandy is having such a problem with the ringworm still, I was looking up natural and other remedies for ringworm and I came across these: http://www.newzealandnz.co.nz/discussions/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/8264/an/0/page/0 http://www.petsbestrx.com/ringworm/index.html?wcw=google there are a couple of testamonials on this site. I don't have any experience with either of these and I'm not sure if Manuka Oil (used in the first link) is dangerous to cats or not. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting & web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
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When I use the golden seal, I put it on every day. The kind without alcohol, can go on the face too. The nutritional support sounds good - the colostrum and interferon etc. I was just looking at some other alternative stuff for one of my kitties, and found this, which mentions ringworm - I didn't know this kind of stuff was anti-fungal too - http://www.nzymes.com/ product_blackleaf_black_walnut_olive_leaf_tincture.htm I've also been told to use 1/4 of a Program tablet with cats, for ringworm. Good luck. Gloria On Jun 14, 2006, at 8:16 AM, Kerry Roach wrote: Hi everyone, We have been away for awhile, just too much going on with this ringworm and work...it is all I can do to tend to all of that... I am sorry for the losses some of you have had recently...you are always in our thoughts and prayers... Anyway, bandy's entire face has ringworm on it and I have used almost the whole bottle of conofite...they said I am going to have to give him the fulvicin to get rid of it..I just hate that, but I may have no other choice. The eye drops with the pred in them are keeping it from going away faster..or that is what his eye spec said would happen..I try to keep it off the best I can with cotton balls then put the topical meds for the ringworm on there last with some other eye ointment to keep down infection..Inky (my 19yr old) had it, too, but I his has healed ok as it was on his back..and the hair has already come back...But Bandy is miserable...He has hurt his leg again due to climbing I guess..He is eating good and fever seems to be about the same..he gets that about every 7 to 9 days..so I still give him 1/2 dex pill...and it goes away.. I forgot to mentiion I think a few weeks ago, we did a complete blood panel on Bandy and it was the first one since last Aug...His PCV was 30.4...so something must be working for that...he is making rbc so that is a positive thing for sure... His eyes are clear and he can see some...the pupils don't move...they are stuck in a fixed position, but as long as he is on the pred drops, he should be able to see some.. He is eating good and playing some.. I still give him lysine from the pill on each meal with some folic acid and bovine colostrum...also Co Q10...He is on interferon same as since last Aug. and 1/2 cc baytril. Please let me know if there is anything else I can try for the ringworm. I put some goldenseal on it too...I just don't know what else to do..I feel so bad for him as I know he hates all the meds for the ringworm.. Head butts to all your furr babies..and hoping everyone is doing well today.. Kerry, Bandy, Inky and Angels Buster, Little Rascal and Snoopy __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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Kerry, I am sorry to hear that Bandy is having such a tough time kicking this damn ringworm!!! I hate ringworm! I hope that the new meds the vet is prescribing are going to work. Please keep us posted on how he does with it. :) Wendy --- Kerry Roach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi everyone, > We have been away for awhile, just too much going > on with this ringworm and work...it is all I can do > to tend to all of that... > I am sorry for the losses some of you have had > recently...you are always in our thoughts and > prayers... > Anyway, bandy's entire face has ringworm on it and > I have used almost the whole bottle of > conofite...they said I am going to have to give him > the fulvicin to get rid of it..I just hate that, but > I may have no other choice. The eye drops with the > pred in them are keeping it from going away > faster..or that is what his eye spec said would > happen..I try to keep it off the best I can with > cotton balls then put the topical meds for the > ringworm on there last with some other eye ointment > to keep down infection..Inky (my 19yr old) had it, > too, but I his has healed ok as it was on his > back..and the hair has already come back...But Bandy > is miserable...He has hurt his leg again due to > climbing I guess..He is eating good and fever seems > to be about the same..he gets that about every 7 to > 9 days..so I still give him 1/2 dex pill...and it > goes away.. > I forgot to mentiion I think a few weeks ago, we > did a complete blood panel on Bandy and it was the > first one since last Aug...His PCV was 30.4...so > something must be working for that...he is making > rbc so that is a positive thing for sure... > His eyes are clear and he can see some...the > pupils don't move...they are stuck in a fixed > position, but as long as he is on the pred drops, he > should be able to see some.. > He is eating good and playing some.. > I still give him lysine from the pill on each meal > with some folic acid and bovine colostrum...also Co > Q10...He is on interferon same as since last Aug. > and 1/2 cc baytril. > Please let me know if there is anything else I can > try for the ringworm. I put some goldenseal on it > too...I just don't know what else to do..I feel so > bad for him as I know he hates all the meds for the > ringworm.. > Head butts to all your furr babies..and hoping > everyone is doing well today.. > Kerry, Bandy, Inky and Angels Buster, Little > Rascal and Snoopy > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Bandy and the ringworm
Hi everyone, We have been away for awhile, just too much going on with this ringworm and work...it is all I can do to tend to all of that... I am sorry for the losses some of you have had recently...you are always in our thoughts and prayers... Anyway, bandy's entire face has ringworm on it and I have used almost the whole bottle of conofite...they said I am going to have to give him the fulvicin to get rid of it..I just hate that, but I may have no other choice. The eye drops with the pred in them are keeping it from going away faster..or that is what his eye spec said would happen..I try to keep it off the best I can with cotton balls then put the topical meds for the ringworm on there last with some other eye ointment to keep down infection..Inky (my 19yr old) had it, too, but I his has healed ok as it was on his back..and the hair has already come back...But Bandy is miserable...He has hurt his leg again due to climbing I guess..He is eating good and fever seems to be about the same..he gets that about every 7 to 9 days..so I still give him 1/2 dex pill...and it goes away.. I forgot to mentiion I think a few weeks ago, we did a complete blood panel on Bandy and it was the first one since last Aug...His PCV was 30.4...so something must be working for that...he is making rbc so that is a positive thing for sure... His eyes are clear and he can see some...the pupils don't move...they are stuck in a fixed position, but as long as he is on the pred drops, he should be able to see some.. He is eating good and playing some.. I still give him lysine from the pill on each meal with some folic acid and bovine colostrum...also Co Q10...He is on interferon same as since last Aug. and 1/2 cc baytril. Please let me know if there is anything else I can try for the ringworm. I put some goldenseal on it too...I just don't know what else to do..I feel so bad for him as I know he hates all the meds for the ringworm.. Head butts to all your furr babies..and hoping everyone is doing well today.. Kerry, Bandy, Inky and Angels Buster, Little Rascal and Snoopy __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Bandy has ringworm on his nose
Yeah, dabbing the topical meds on the individual spots is the best way to medicate for it. It probably wasn't you spreading it, it floats in the air, so just having the central heat on would be enough to contaminate the entire house. Don't worry so much, it's just a little fungus, the same one that causes athlete's foot, annoying but generally not serious. It can on rare occasions develop into a skin infection, and require antibiotics, which you found out. The best advice I can give you for the scratching is to put soft paws claw covers on his back feet until he heals, this will keep him from ripping his skin open. Soft paws: http://www.softpaws.com/ Here, these pages will help you get an idea of what it is, and how it works, and the treatments/options: http://www.marvistavet.com/html/body_ringworm.html http://www.winnfelinehealth.org/reports/feline-dermatophytosis.html http://www.netcat.org/symposium/ringworm.html http://www.nhahonline.com/k9dermatology.htm#ringworm Just so you know, I have had it here before, I did NOTHING, and it's gone now. No biggie. :) Jennhttp://ucat.us http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Adopt a cat from Little Cheetah (UCAT) Cat Rescue:http://ucat.us/adopt.html PLEASE DONATE TO THE TANGLE FUND:Tangle is a cat in Greece that was severely injured when someone wrapped wire around his neck to strangle him,Little Cheetah Cat Rescue is raising funds to bring Tangle to Vermont to find him a good home!http://ucat.us/tangle-fund.htmlDONATE: We could really use a power saw (for construction), a digital camera (for pictures), and more towels! No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.2/329 - Release Date: 5/2/2006
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Thanks for all your replies.. Jenn, I am worried as my 19 yr old Inky now has it...He has a bad skin infection cause he scratches it all the time..I took him in the other day and they cleaned it all up good..she wanted me to put him on the oral fulvicin, too..I told her it made Bandy sick so I haven't given him anymore..I have given Inky 2 doses and not the full cc about 1/2. He is very hard to medicate...She also put him on clavamox which I know he needs..He eats his pills in his food..He seems to feel good as he eats alot...I am worried that Inky will get it all over...is that possible cause of him scratching all the time??? I don't know what to do for him..I don't want to make him sick or something...When he bends over to eat, I use a qtip with the topical ringworm med on it...spread it on there as best I can...Will that do the trick or what else can I do??? I think Bandy's is healing ok..but with all the eye meds he is getting right now...he is just very irritated and hates to see me coming...It is 4 or 5 times a day for something... I must have spread it to Inky from Bandy before I knew what it was...they live in opposite ends of the house and have no contact.. This has made me a nervous wreck cause I have never dealt with it...I have washed all beds and their towels and bleached what I could. Anymore help would be appreciated.. Head butts to all your furbabies...and looking for some good days.. Kerry, Bandy and Inky Yahoo! Mail goes everywhere you do. Get it on your phone.
Re: Bandy has ringworm on his nose
Kerry, ringworm will go through a cycle and go away ON IT'S OWN if left alone. NO need to medicate unless you have a multi-cat household were it can cycle along through all the cats and pass back and forth (where, it theory, it could cycle endlessly and never go away). Vets commonly over medicate for ringworm, which, in itself, is a relatively harmless fungus. Itchy, but NOT deadly. I would never orally medicate for it, period, it's just NOT that big of a deal, to give toxic meds to a cat to cure something so harmless. Oh and yes, YOU can get it too, ALSO not a big deal. On yourself, put a dab of bleach directly on the fungus daily, and it will kill it. (don't bleach a cat, they will lick it off and it will make them sick) Just MY opinion, of course. Jennhttp://ucat.us http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Adopt a cat from Little Cheetah (UCAT) Cat Rescue:http://ucat.us/adopt.html PLEASE DONATE TO THE TANGLE FUND:Tangle is a cat in Greece that was severely injured when someone wrapped wire around his neck to strangle him,Little Cheetah Cat Rescue is raising funds to bring Tangle to Vermont to find him a good home!http://ucat.us/tangle-fund.htmlDONATE: We could really use a power saw (for construction), a digital camera (for pictures), and more towels! No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.1/327 - Release Date: 4/28/2006
Re: Bandy has ringworm on his nose
Thank you all for your replies..I went to the vet yesterday and asked her to please make Bandy an appt. with an eye specialist in Dallas...We aren't getting any where with what we are doing so I believe he needs the specialist to figure out what is really going on here...I asked her to give him something else, and she called in a prescription of prednisolone drops...It was almost like immediate relief for him..I have given him 2 treatments so far and he seems to be able to get around some now..I even got him to play with his string...I think he could sort of see it..He was very cautious walking around, but at least he did it...I got him to scratch on his post, too..I was scratching on it and he went to it... They also told me the other day that if I didn't give him the oral meds for the ringworm, that he would get it all over his body..I haven't ever heard of that..and I think that stuff was making him feel sick too..so I didn't give him any on thursday..What do you all know about that?? fulvicin is what it is...It is strong stuff...I am using the topical conofite that she prescribed..It seems to be helping..I have some goldenseal in the fridge, but I don't know if it is too old to use and if I should use it with the prescription med..I can get some more if I should use both.. Bottom line, I think, about his eyes...is that we need a specialist to try to save his eyes and quit messing around with it..I just hope and pray that I haven't waited too long..They would clear up then it would start all over again...I know he probably has the chronic form of anterior uveitis, and we can deal with that..I just need to know for sure what to do..as it can result in glaucoma...she did that test on Wed and his ocular pressure wasn't elevated yet..I also found out if there is a fungal infection going on with the eye that the steroid drops aren't good for him...so I guess that test would have to be done by a specialist..as really the steroid drops are the only ones that will work for his condition... I hope I haven't confused everyone going back and worth with all this..It is alot for my little guy to handle all at once... We are thinking of all of you and your furbabies..I hope they are all doing well today..and our prayers go out to you that have lost one.. thanks once again, Kerry, Bandy, Inky and Angels Buster, Lil Rascal and Snoopy Love cheap thrills? Enjoy PC-to-Phone calls to 30+ countries for just 2¢/min with Yahoo! Messenger with Voice.
Re: Bandy has ringworm on his nose
Poor Bandy...he's just dealing with so many things. Prayers coming for him and for you.Becca
Re: Bandy has ringworm on his nose
Kerry, I'm so sorry to hear the news about Bandy too. Have you tried syringing some water? I hope the ringworm clears up quickly. He WILL adjust to the blindness if it comes to that, but I hope it can be reversed. take care, tNina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: My God Kerry, you can't seem to be able to catch your breath! Are you still treating his eyes? He was the one that you had been treating for eye problems that wouldn't clear up, right? I can't remember exactly what was wrong, is that what's causing the blindness? I just can't believe what you've had to deal with, I don't know how you and Michelle hold on to your sanity. When I was dealing with the loss of one after another I remember saying in despair and frustration, NO MORE ANIMALS! Bruce just smiled and pointed out that even if we didn't acquire any new ones, we were still going to have to go through the inevitable so many more times. What can you do? When we open our hearts, the pain comes pouring in right beside the joy and love. Poor Bandy! Poor Kerry! I'm so sorry that you are having to deal with serious illness so soon again, but Bandy is one fortunate fellow to have you at his side. I'm glad you're getting him off the pred. Why don't you try the goldenseal as Gloria suggested for the ringworm? I can't believe Bandy has to contend with ringworm on top of everything else. I don't know Kerry, you know how I feel about all these immune suppressing drugs, even antibiotics work in a way that wipe out good at the same time as the bad. I'm pulling for you guys and my prayers and thoughts are with you. Please keep posting and call if you want or need a shoulder,NinaKerry Roach wrote:I took Bandy back to the doctor today, and he can't see..I don't know if we can reverse his blindness or not. She mixed some other drops that have about 5 things in it...I don't remember what it is called...I take him back in a week...He has no depth perception. I did take his food to him so he ate some, but won't drink water as I just don't think he can see the bowl...I hope when he gets thirsty, he will try..I know he doesn't know what to do. I did talk to her about the ringworm meds and we won't leave him on the oral for the 30 days if we don't have to...I am so afraid of that...She didn't do blood work this time. I posted what they were in an earlier post. I have used goldenseal once before on a stray cat, but have never dealt with it in my own...as we haven't ever had ringworm before...this is probably due to his weakened immune system anyway from the Felv and FIV..and he has been on pred for almost a month which I am weaning him off it right now...He doesn't need it in my opinion, and I think it contributed to the ringworm.. Any other help would be appreciated.. Thanks to you all for your help, you are the greatest.. Kerry and Bandy New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big.
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Kerry, I am so sorry to hear about Bandy. My Angel Stinky lost her sight the last year of her life. She managed very well. I didn't move anything I left her food and water dish just where it had always been. So she knew where to go out of habit. Also she could smell her food. Her sense of smell seemed like it got a whole lot better after she lost her sight. It broke my heart to see her like that but she always managed to find where I was and get into my lap. I think she might have been able to see shadows. I hope they can reverse Bandy's blindness. I will be praying for the two of you. Cindy --- Kerry Roach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I took Bandy back to the doctor today, and he can't > see..I don't know if we can reverse his blindness or > not. She mixed some other drops that have about 5 > things in it...I don't remember what it is > called...I take him back in a week...He has no depth > perception. I did take his food to him so he ate > some, but won't drink water as I just don't think he > can see the bowl...I hope when he gets thirsty, he > will try..I know he doesn't know what to do. > I did talk to her about the ringworm meds and we > won't leave him on the oral for the 30 days if we > don't have to...I am so afraid of that...She didn't > do blood work this time. > I posted what they were in an earlier post. I > have used goldenseal once before on a stray cat, but > have never dealt with it in my own...as we haven't > ever had ringworm before...this is probably due to > his weakened immune system anyway from the Felv and > FIV..and he has been on pred for almost a month > which I am weaning him off it right now...He doesn't > need it in my opinion, and I think it contributed to > the ringworm.. > Any other help would be appreciated.. > Thanks to you all for your help, you are the > greatest.. > Kerry and Bandy > > > > - > New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones > from your PC and save big. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Bandy has ringworm on his nose
My God Kerry, you can't seem to be able to catch your breath! Are you still treating his eyes? He was the one that you had been treating for eye problems that wouldn't clear up, right? I can't remember exactly what was wrong, is that what's causing the blindness? I just can't believe what you've had to deal with, I don't know how you and Michelle hold on to your sanity. When I was dealing with the loss of one after another I remember saying in despair and frustration, NO MORE ANIMALS! Bruce just smiled and pointed out that even if we didn't acquire any new ones, we were still going to have to go through the inevitable so many more times. What can you do? When we open our hearts, the pain comes pouring in right beside the joy and love. Poor Bandy! Poor Kerry! I'm so sorry that you are having to deal with serious illness so soon again, but Bandy is one fortunate fellow to have you at his side. I'm glad you're getting him off the pred. Why don't you try the goldenseal as Gloria suggested for the ringworm? I can't believe Bandy has to contend with ringworm on top of everything else. I don't know Kerry, you know how I feel about all these immune suppressing drugs, even antibiotics work in a way that wipe out good at the same time as the bad. I'm pulling for you guys and my prayers and thoughts are with you. Please keep posting and call if you want or need a shoulder, Nina Kerry Roach wrote: I took Bandy back to the doctor today, and he can't see..I don't know if we can reverse his blindness or not. She mixed some other drops that have about 5 things in it...I don't remember what it is called...I take him back in a week...He has no depth perception. I did take his food to him so he ate some, but won't drink water as I just don't think he can see the bowl...I hope when he gets thirsty, he will try..I know he doesn't know what to do. I did talk to her about the ringworm meds and we won't leave him on the oral for the 30 days if we don't have to...I am so afraid of that...She didn't do blood work this time. I posted what they were in an earlier post. I have used goldenseal once before on a stray cat, but have never dealt with it in my own...as we haven't ever had ringworm before...this is probably due to his weakened immune system anyway from the Felv and FIV..and he has been on pred for almost a month which I am weaning him off it right now...He doesn't need it in my opinion, and I think it contributed to the ringworm.. Any other help would be appreciated.. Thanks to you all for your help, you are the greatest.. Kerry and Bandy New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big.
Re: Bandy has ringworm on his nose
I took Bandy back to the doctor today, and he can't see..I don't know if we can reverse his blindness or not. She mixed some other drops that have about 5 things in it...I don't remember what it is called...I take him back in a week...He has no depth perception. I did take his food to him so he ate some, but won't drink water as I just don't think he can see the bowl...I hope when he gets thirsty, he will try..I know he doesn't know what to do. I did talk to her about the ringworm meds and we won't leave him on the oral for the 30 days if we don't have to...I am so afraid of that...She didn't do blood work this time. I posted what they were in an earlier post. I have used goldenseal once before on a stray cat, but have never dealt with it in my own...as we haven't ever had ringworm before...this is probably due to his weakened immune system anyway from the Felv and FIV..and he has been on pred for almost a month which I am weaning him off it right now...He doesn't need it in my opinion, and I think it contributed to the ringworm.. Any other help would be appreciated.. Thanks to you all for your help, you are the greatest.. Kerry and Bandy New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big.
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Sending good vibes and positive energy for Bandy. Jennhttp://ucat.us http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Adopt a cat from Little Cheetah (UCAT) Cat Rescue:http://ucat.us/adopt.html PLEASE DONATE TO THE TANGLE FUND:Tangle is a cat in Greece that was severely injured when someone wrapped wire around his neck to strangle him,Little Cheetah Cat Rescue is raising funds to bring Tangle to Vermont to find him a good home!http://ucat.us/tangle-fund.htmlDONATE: We could really use a power saw (for construction), a digital camera (for pictures), and more towels! No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.6/324 - Release Date: 4/25/2006
RE: Bandy has ringworm on his nose
Kerry: Did your vet do bloodwork before prescribing oral medication for Brandy? Which ringworm oral medication did the vet prescribe? Also, you are in Chicago right? Who is your vet? I am located in Chicago as well. Precious Pets __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
