Re: Sebastian Please add to the CLS :(

2008-05-30 Thread catatonya
I'm so sorry Sherry.
  t

Sherry DeHaan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  I am saddened to say that we lost another one of our sanctuary babies.
  Sebastian was a sweet gray and white boy.On monday he was talking to me 
alot,maybe he was letting me know that he is leaving. :( I will miss that great 
boy.
  Sherry
  

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RE: Sebastian Please add to the CLS :(

2008-05-28 Thread Sherry DeHaan
it went through  :)

"MacKenzie, Kerry N." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:this is a test. (I had 
to send my message directly to Sherry---first one to group wasn't delivered)


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  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sally Davis
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 12:42 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Sebastian Please add to the CLS :(


  
  Sherry 
   
  I am sorry to hear of Sebastian's passing. May his spirit fly free along with 
the rest of his angel buddies. Bless you for helping look after these cats.
   
   
  Sally Davis

 
  On 5/26/08, Sherry DeHaan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   I am saddened to 
say that we lost another one of our sanctuary babies.
  Sebastian was a sweet gray and white boy.On monday he was talking to me 
alot,maybe he was letting me know that he is leaving. :( I will miss that great 
boy.
  Sherry
  

  

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RE: Sebastian Please add to the CLS :(

2008-05-28 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
this is a test. (I had to send my message directly to Sherry---first one
to group wasn't delivered)



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sally Davis
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 12:42 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Sebastian Please add to the CLS :(


Sherry 
 
I am sorry to hear of Sebastian's passing. May his spirit fly free along
with the rest of his angel buddies. Bless you for helping look after
these cats.
 
 
Sally Davis

 
On 5/26/08, Sherry DeHaan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

I am saddened to say that we lost another one of our sanctuary
babies.
    Sebastian was a sweet gray and white boy.On monday he was
talking to me alot,maybe he was letting me know that he is leaving. :( I
will miss that great boy.
Sherry




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RE: Sebastian Please add to the CLS :(

2008-05-28 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Oh Sherry, I'm so sorry. Sebastian sounds such a sweetie. I think you're
probably right...he knew it was his time. I'm glad he knew you.
Big hugs, Kerry



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: Felvtalk
Subject: Sebastian Please add to the CLS :(


I am saddened to say that we lost another one of our sanctuary babies.
Sebastian was a sweet gray and white boy.On monday he was talking to me
alot,maybe he was letting me know that he is leaving. :( I will miss
that great boy.
Sherry


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Re: Sebastian Please add to the CLS :(

2008-05-28 Thread Sherry DeHaan
Thank you ALL for your kind words. Lynne you are right, these beautiful babies 
give me such love that all the sorrow that comes along with each loss is 
bandaged with the love of yet another poor baby that comes along that is 
willing to let us love them when no one else would.I dont know if that made 
much sense. :) Once again Thank you ALL.
  On a good note my beautiful Melina is still going strong!!(cross our fingers) 
she is always fighting with a snotty nose but she is a pistol.She is my 
heart.It will be a tough loss like my Marley was when she ..Ok no negative 
thoughts on my girl!!! Keep her and all the other precious sanctuary babies in 
your prayers and thoughts.
  Sherry
Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  I agree - Sherry is amazing.

Sherry, I'm so sorry for your loss.  

Take good care,

Kelley

  On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 7:47 AM, Lynne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Sherry, I'm sorry for your loss.  I don't know how wonderful people like 
you do this kind of work.  You truly are exceptional.  I know these dear 
creatures give you lots of love but the amount of sorrow you must endure is 
beyond my imagination.
   
  Lynne
  
- Original Message - 
  From: Sally Davis 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 1:42 AM
  Subject: Re: Sebastian Please add to the CLS :(
  

  Sherry 
   
  I am sorry to hear of Sebastian's passing. May his spirit fly free along with 
the rest of his angel buddies. Bless you for helping look after these cats.
   
   
  Sally Davis

 
  On 5/26/08, Sherry DeHaan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   I am saddened to 
say that we lost another one of our sanctuary babies.
  Sebastian was a sweet gray and white boy.On monday he was talking to me 
alot,maybe he was letting me know that he is leaving. :( I will miss that great 
boy.
  Sherry
  

  

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Re: Sebastian Please add to the CLS :(

2008-05-28 Thread Sharyl
Sherry, I was saddened to read that Sebastian has crossed the Rainbow Bridge.  
We love them. care for them and in the end let them go.  He is now happily 
romping in the green meadows chasing butterflies with all our angels.
  Sharyl

Sherry DeHaan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  I am saddened to say that we lost another one of our sanctuary babies.
  Sebastian was a sweet gray and white boy.On monday he was talking to me 
alot,maybe he was letting me know that he is leaving. :( I will miss that great 
boy.
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Re: Sebastian Please add to the CLS :(

2008-05-28 Thread Kelley Saveika
I agree - Sherry is amazing.

Sherry, I'm so sorry for your loss.

Take good care,

Kelley

On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 7:47 AM, Lynne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  Sherry, I'm sorry for your loss.  I don't know how wonderful people like
> you do this kind of work.  You truly are exceptional.  I know these dear
> creatures give you lots of love but the amount of sorrow you must endure is
> beyond my imagination.
>
> Lynne
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Sally Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 27, 2008 1:42 AM
> *Subject:* Re: Sebastian Please add to the CLS :(
>
> Sherry
>
> I am sorry to hear of Sebastian's passing. May his spirit fly free along
> with the rest of his angel buddies. Bless you for helping look after these
> cats.
>
>
> Sally Davis
>
>
> On 5/26/08, Sherry DeHaan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>  I am saddened to say that we lost another one of our sanctuary babies.
>> Sebastian was a sweet gray and white boy.On monday he was talking to me
>> alot,maybe he was letting me know that he is leaving. :( I will miss that
>> great boy.
>> Sherry
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Re: Sebastian Please add to the CLS :(

2008-05-28 Thread Lynne
Sherry, I'm sorry for your loss.  I don't know how wonderful people like you do 
this kind of work.  You truly are exceptional.  I know these dear creatures 
give you lots of love but the amount of sorrow you must endure is beyond my 
imagination.

Lynne
  - Original Message - 
  From: Sally Davis 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 1:42 AM
  Subject: Re: Sebastian Please add to the CLS :(


  Sherry 

  I am sorry to hear of Sebastian's passing. May his spirit fly free along with 
the rest of his angel buddies. Bless you for helping look after these cats.


  Sally Davis

   
  On 5/26/08, Sherry DeHaan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
I am saddened to say that we lost another one of our sanctuary babies.
Sebastian was a sweet gray and white boy.On monday he was talking to me 
alot,maybe he was letting me know that he is leaving. :( I will miss that great 
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RE: Sebastian Please add to the CLS :(

2008-05-27 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
Sorry, Sherry and all.  Gentle Bridge vibes to Sebastian.
 
Diane R.



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 7:54 PM
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Subject: Sebastian Please add to the CLS :(


I am saddened to say that we lost another one of our sanctuary babies.
Sebastian was a sweet gray and white boy.On monday he was talking to me
alot,maybe he was letting me know that he is leaving. :( I will miss
that great boy.
Sherry


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Re: Sebastian Please add to the CLS :(

2008-05-27 Thread Gloria Lane
I'm so sorry, Sherry - Hope he had a gentle passing, and was greeted  
joyfully by all our babies at the Bridge.

Gloria


On May 26, 2008, at 7:54 PM, Sherry DeHaan wrote:

> I am saddened to say that we lost another one of our sanctuary babies.
> Sebastian was a sweet gray and white boy.On monday he was talking to  
> me alot,maybe he was letting me know that he is leaving. :( I will  
> miss that great boy.
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Re: Sebastian Please add to the CLS :(

2008-05-26 Thread Sally Davis
Sherry

I am sorry to hear of Sebastian's passing. May his spirit fly free along
with the rest of his angel buddies. Bless you for helping look after these
cats.


Sally Davis


On 5/26/08, Sherry DeHaan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  I am saddened to say that we lost another one of our sanctuary babies.
> Sebastian was a sweet gray and white boy.On monday he was talking to me
> alot,maybe he was letting me know that he is leaving. :( I will miss that
> great boy.
> Sherry
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Re: Sebastian Please add to the CLS :(

2008-05-26 Thread Hannahshopeorg
I'm so sorry for your loss.  It always hurts.
 
Brenda
 
 
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I am saddened to say that we lost another one of our sanctuary  babies.
Sebastian was a sweet gray and white boy.On monday he was talking to me  
alot,maybe he was letting me know that he is leaving. :( I will miss that  
great 
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Sebastian Please add to the CLS :(

2008-05-26 Thread Sherry DeHaan
  I am saddened to say that we lost another one of our sanctuary babies.
  Sebastian was a sweet gray and white boy.On monday he was talking to me 
alot,maybe he was letting me know that he is leaving. :( I will miss that great 
boy.
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Re: Terri's himmy, Sebastian

2007-09-06 Thread Kat
Oh Kelley & Terri -

I am so sorry to hear this!  
Sleep Soft, Dear Sebastian...
You belong to the Angels now -
They will love you deeply too.

Kat (Mew Jersey)

On Thu, 6 Sep 2007, Kelley Saveika wrote:

> Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 12:32:16 -0500
> From: Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> 
> did not make it.:(  Poor guy.  My vet said he just laid there and
> groaned and he could not stand to watch him suffer anymore.  He just
> was not getting better.
> 
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RE: Terri's himmy, Sebastian

2007-09-06 Thread Melissa Lind
Poor Sebastian. My prayers are with him and his family.

Melissa

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did not make it.:(  Poor guy.  My vet said he just laid there and
groaned and he could not stand to watch him suffer anymore.  He just
was not getting better.



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2007-09-06 Thread Kelley Saveika
did not make it.:(  Poor guy.  My vet said he just laid there and
groaned and he could not stand to watch him suffer anymore.  He just
was not getting better.



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Re: My ANGEL Sebastian

2005-09-21 Thread Julie Johnson
Dear Jennifer,
 
My thoughts and prayers are with you and Sebastian; I know how hard this is.  I hope the tests will give you the answers you need.  Take care.
 
Julie JENNIFER RATLIFF <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



I have not written for so long because I feel that I have given up hope.  Sebastian has not been doing very well.  He can no longer walk and he relies on me to take him to the litter box and to feed him.  He still has a good appetite.  He seems so depressed now.  I am so heart broken that I cry almost daily.  I am not strong enough to let him go.  I feel that it isn't up to me to play god and that he will go when he is ready.  He just keeps fighting.  He is so much braver than me.  I took him to the Virginia Tech Veterinary hospital on August 1st.  They were wanting to run alot of tests.  The tests were very risky, so I decided against them.  Now I feel that I have no choice and I have to find out what is wrong with him and see if there is something that can be done.  I don't know what I will do without him.  I am so scared of losing him."I hold that, the more
 helpless a creature, the more entitled it is to protection by man from the cruelty of man. " "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated." Mohandas Gandhi (1869-1948)Paws Come WITH Claws!!!If you're thinking about de-clawing your cat, you need to re-think your decision to acquire a pet.__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com 

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2005-09-20 Thread Kerry MacKenzie



Just want to say you and Sebastian are in my thoughts, 
Jennifer. Hope the little honey is still enjoying his food. 
Did you have any further thoughts about trying 
acupuncture?
Don't forget we're all here for you and Sebastian...any 
time you need us.
hugs to you both
Kerry


Re: My ANGEL Sebastian

2005-09-20 Thread FORGETMENOTPETS



Jennifer,
I have been there with my Baby C and a couple of others. You will know. 
Your heart will tell you. Bless you for loving him
Karen


Re: My ANGEL Sebastian

2005-09-20 Thread catatonya
Jennifer,
 
I'm so sorry you're going through this with Sebastian.  It's such a personal decision about what to do.. You know him best.  Sending you both strength and prayers.
 
tonyaJENNIFER RATLIFF <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



I have not written for so long because I feel that I have given up hope.  Sebastian has not been doing very well.  He can no longer walk and he relies on me to take him to the litter box and to feed him.  He still has a good appetite.  He seems so depressed now.  I am so heart broken that I cry almost daily.  I am not strong enough to let him go.  I feel that it isn't up to me to play god and that he will go when he is ready.  He just keeps fighting.  He is so much braver than me.  I took him to the Virginia Tech Veterinary hospital on August 1st.  They were wanting to run alot of tests.  The tests were very risky, so I decided against them.  Now I feel that I have no choice and I have to find out what is wrong with him and see if there is something that can be done.  I don't know what I will do without him.  I am so scared of losing him.

RE: My ANGEL Sebastian

2005-09-20 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto








That’s a good suggestion!

In case you are interested in, I am going
to give my AC’s phone number, Jasmine – I really like her –
she can also send him healing energy – Nina and Sally both use her, too,
and they really like her – 

Here’s her number – she is in
Maine – 207-443-1125

 









From:
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of maimaipg
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005
4:43 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: My ANGEL Sebastian



 



Before you decide to do anything, and if it is right for
you, find an animal communicator to talk to Sebastian.  I decided against
serious/surgical testing for Kitty.  Like you, I desperately want to know
what is wrong with her but chose to have her consulted.  I knew what I
would want done if it were me but that is not what I wanted to do with
her. She told a group of communicators that she did not want the tests and
did not want chemo (she put it much more bluntly--I'm not sure where she learned
some of the words but she was feral once).  The thought of losing her sent
me into a panic and still does but she explained that we fear death while cats
do not.  They know so much more than we do and accept so much more. 
I am NOT urging you to forgo the testing but I am urging you to push the
panic you feel aside long enough to ask him what he wants.  It is so very
hard to make the decision to ignore a vet's advise.  I was lucky.  My
personal vets and my alternative vet agreed with Kitty and not the specialists. 
I am confident that I made the right decision for her but I do not know that is
the right one for you and Sebastian.  And the right decision for Sebastian
may be the wrong decision for you.  





 





May all of your angels and Sebastian's angels guide you. 





 





- Original Message - 







From: JENNIFER
RATLIFF 





To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org






Sent: Monday, September
19, 2005 1:15 PM





Subject: My ANGEL Sebastian





 







I have not written for so long because I feel that I
have given up hope.  Sebastian has not been doing very well.  He can
no longer walk and he relies on me to take him to the litter box and to feed
him.  He still has a good appetite.  He seems so depressed now. 
I am so heart broken that I cry almost daily.  I am not strong enough to
let him go.  I feel that it isn't up to me to play god and that he will go
when he is ready.  He just keeps fighting.  He is so much braver than
me.  I took him to the Virginia Tech Veterinary hospital on August
1st.  They were wanting to run alot of tests.  The tests were very
risky, so I decided against them.  Now I feel that I have no choice and I
have to find out what is wrong with him and see if there is something that can
be done.  I don't know what I will do without him.  I am so scared of
losing him.














for Jennifer re Sebastian

2005-09-19 Thread Kerry MacKenzie



Sending lots of healing vibes for Sebastian. I pray the 
acupuncture--or the tests if you go that route--helps him. I think the fact he's 
enjoying eating is a great sign---so often I've been desperate (in 
what turned out to be their last days) for mine just to show 
some--any--interest in food, but they never did regain their appetite. 
So Sebastian's healthy appetite is a wonderful thing! love and hugs to you 
and Sebastian--what a brave, gutsy little guy. Kerry
 
 
 
- Original Message - 

  From: 
  JENNIFER RATLIFF 
  To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 5:11 
  PM
  Subject: Ceasar
  
  
  
  I am praying that all goes well Hideyo.  Keep me updated.
   
  I would love the link for the carts.  Sebastian does have feeling in 
  his back legs.  I will definately try acupuncture.  Thanks, Jennifer 
  and Sebastian
   


Re: My ANGEL Sebastian

2005-09-19 Thread maimaipg



Before you decide to do anything, and if it is right for 
you, find an animal communicator to talk to Sebastian.  I decided against 
serious/surgical testing for Kitty.  Like you, I desperately want to know 
what is wrong with her but chose to have her consulted.  I knew what I 
would want done if it were me but that is not what I wanted to do with 
her. She told a group of communicators that she did not want the tests and 
did not want chemo (she put it much more bluntly--I'm not sure where she learned 
some of the words but she was feral once).  The thought of losing her sent 
me into a panic and still does but she explained that we fear death while cats 
do not.  They know so much more than we do and accept so much more.  I 
am NOT urging you to forgo the testing but I am urging you to push the 
panic you feel aside long enough to ask him what he wants.  It is so very 
hard to make the decision to ignore a vet's advise.  I was lucky.  My 
personal vets and my alternative vet agreed with Kitty and not the 
specialists.  I am confident that I made the right decision for her but I 
do not know that is the right one for you and Sebastian.  And the right 
decision for Sebastian may be the wrong decision for you.  
 
May all of your angels and Sebastian's angels guide 
you. 
 
- Original Message - 

  From: 
  JENNIFER RATLIFF 
  To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 1:15 
  PM
  Subject: My ANGEL Sebastian
  
  
  
  I have not written for so long because I feel that I have given up 
  hope.  Sebastian has not been doing very well.  He can no longer 
  walk and he relies on me to take him to the litter box and to feed him.  
  He still has a good appetite.  He seems so depressed now.  I am so 
  heart broken that I cry almost daily.  I am not strong enough to let him 
  go.  I feel that it isn't up to me to play god and that he will go when 
  he is ready.  He just keeps fighting.  He is so much braver than 
  me.  I took him to the Virginia Tech Veterinary hospital on August 
  1st.  They were wanting to run alot of tests.  The tests were very 
  risky, so I decided against them.  Now I feel that I have no choice and I 
  have to find out what is wrong with him and see if there is something that can 
  be done.  I don't know what I will do without him.  I am so scared 
  of losing him.


RE: Sebastian

2005-09-19 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto








Also… sooner is better before he
loses the control of the entire function – you will have much more
success – can he feel anything on his hind legs.. if so, it’s a
good sign, if you haven’t tried it, I would tried it asap – I had
two paralyzed dogs and started walking with acupuncture treatment..

 









From:
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005
1:20 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Sebastian



 





I second that. I have seen acupuncture do amazing
things.  The vet acupuncturist who does acupuncture on our sheep, Lamby,
said he did acupuncture on a dog that seemed paralyzed from an attack injury
and the conventional vets had given up, and the dog was walking around after 3
acupuncture treatments.  Worth a try!





Michelle





 





In a message dated 9/19/2005 3:13:56 PM Eastern Standard
Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:





Have you tried accupancture ---

If you are interested, I can send you the link to the website of
kitty carts that Sebastian can use..












Re: Sebastian

2005-09-19 Thread Lernermichelle



I second that. I have seen acupuncture do amazing things.  The vet acupuncturist who does acupuncture on our sheep, Lamby, said he did acupuncture on a dog that seemed paralyzed from an attack injury and the conventional vets had given up, and the dog was walking around after 3 acupuncture treatments.  Worth a try!
Michelle
 
In a message dated 9/19/2005 3:13:56 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Have you tried accupancture ---
If you are interested, I can send you the link to the website of kitty carts that Sebastian can use..



RE: Sebastian

2005-09-19 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto








Have you tried accupancture ---

If you are interested, I can send you the
link to the website of kitty carts that Sebastian can use..

 









From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of JENNIFER RATLIFF
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005
1:04 PM
To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Sebastian



 





Yes, The doctors do believe that his problems may be
neurological.  He is not anemic that I know of.  He had blood work
done about two months ago and everything looked purrfect!  He is happy
when I am around and purrs alot.  Ho does seem a little depressed though
becuase he can't walk around.  Yesterday he was playing with a string and
seemed happy.  It is so hard to seem him like this.  I want to thank
everyone so much for their responses and for there prayers.












Re: Sebastian

2005-09-19 Thread Lernermichelle



I know it is horrible and I would be freaked out too, but I truly believe that if he purrs when you are near, eats, and even plays with string, he is not as bad of as many.  That is a lot of quality of life. Humans who lose the ability to walk also get depressed, but their life continues and they can get joy and satisfaction in the other things they are still able to do. It sounds like the same is true for Sebastian.  Is it just his hind legs? Have you looked into getting him a cart? Just thank god that Sebastian is a cat and not a horse, because he can still live, play, eat, and interact without getting up and walking around.
Michelle
 
 
In a message dated 9/19/2005 3:04:48 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Yes, The doctors do believe that his problems may be neurological.  He is not anemic that I know of.  He had blood work done about two months ago and everything looked purrfect!  He is happy when I am around and purrs alot.  Ho does seem a little depressed though becuase he can't walk around.  Yesterday he was playing with a string and seemed happy.  It is so hard to seem him like this.  I want to thank everyone so much for their responses and for there prayers.



Sebastian

2005-09-19 Thread JENNIFER RATLIFF

Yes, The doctors do believe that his problems may be neurological.  He is not anemic that I know of.  He had blood work done about two months ago and everything looked purrfect!  He is happy when I am around and purrs alot.  Ho does seem a little depressed though becuase he can't walk around.  Yesterday he was playing with a string and seemed happy.  It is so hard to seem him like this.  I want to thank everyone so much for their responses and for there prayers.




Re: My ANGEL Sebastian

2005-09-19 Thread Terri Brown




Jennifer,  only you can decide what is best for Sebastian.  If 
there is any way you can at least get blood work done, I would encourage you to 
do that.  You can learn a lot from that.
 
Sebastian will tell you what he wants.  Just sit with him, and let him 
tell you.  Sometimes they want us to help them cross over and sometimes 
they don't.  I had one who never told me he wanted help, and he crossed 
over on his own.  The rest asked for help.  It was never easy to 
realize that they were ready to leave, but if it's what they want, then I will 
help them.
 
I do not envy you having to go through this right now.  Having just 
lost my Salome' -- it's always the hardest decision to make.
 
Positive thoughts and hugs coming your way.
 
=^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Sammi, Travis, and 5 
furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec & Salome' 
=^..^=
 
Furkid Photos! http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7sgqa/My 
FeLV Site: http://pages.ivillage.com/ruthiegirl1/MyFeLVinformationSite/My 
Personal Page: http://www.geocities.com/ruthiegirl1/terrispage.html?1083970447350

  - Original Message - 
  From: JENNIFER RATLIFF 
  To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 1:15 
  PM
  Subject: My ANGEL Sebastian
  
  
  
  I have not written for so long because I feel that I have given up 
  hope.  Sebastian has not been doing very well.  He can no longer 
  walk and he relies on me to take him to the litter box and to feed him.  
  He still has a good appetite.  He seems so depressed now.  I am so 
  heart broken that I cry almost daily.  I am not strong enough to let him 
  go.  I feel that it isn't up to me to play god and that he will go when 
  he is ready.  He just keeps fighting.  He is so much braver than 
  me.  I took him to the Virginia Tech Veterinary hospital on August 
  1st.  They were wanting to run alot of tests.  The tests were very 
  risky, so I decided against them.  Now I feel that I have no choice and I 
  have to find out what is wrong with him and see if there is something that can 
  be done.  I don't know what I will do without him.  I am so scared 
  of losing him.


Re: My ANGEL Sebastian

2005-09-19 Thread jenmeyer
How do Sebastian's gums look?  Are they pale?  How's his breathing?  
He could be fighting anemia...but I'm guessing the vets would have 
tested for that when they saw him last...are they leaning towards 
something neurological?  It may help your piece of mind knowing what 
is going on with him...it sounds like Sebastian has enough strength 
for both of you...let that guide you so that you can get to the bottom 
of his illness.  I know it's easier to kind of float about in denial 
out of fear of losing a loved one (I've done it several times myself), 
and while you can't control when a loved one will depart, you can take 
control over treatment...and with that control there's piece of mind 
and a sense of purpose that will over-shadow your fear...You guys are 
in my thoughts!!

Jen



"But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will be 
unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; 
You become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed..." --Antoine 
de Saint-Exupéry

"If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know 
each other.  If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and 
what you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys." --
Chief Dan George--- Begin Message ---

I have not written for so long because I feel that I have given up hope.  Sebastian has not been doing very well.  He can no longer walk and he relies on me to take him to the litter box and to feed him.  He still has a good appetite.  He seems so depressed now.  I am so heart broken that I cry almost daily.  I am not strong enough to let him go.  I feel that it isn't up to me to play god and that he will go when he is ready.  He just keeps fighting.  He is so much braver than me.  I took him to the Virginia Tech Veterinary hospital on August 1st.  They were wanting to run alot of tests.  The tests were very risky, so I decided against them.  Now I feel that I have no choice and I have to find out what is wrong with him and see if there is something that can be done.  I don't know what I will do without him.  I am so scared of losing him.


--- End Message ---


RE: My ANGEL Sebastian

2005-09-19 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto








I agree with Michelle – if he has a
good appetite, please let him live – I have known cats who actually lost
both of legs from the injury, but is living and living happily -may be you
can get a wheelchair for me?

 









From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of JENNIFER RATLIFF
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005
11:16 AM
To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: My ANGEL Sebastian



 





I have not written for so long because I feel that I
have given up hope.  Sebastian has not been doing very well.  He can
no longer walk and he relies on me to take him to the litter box and to feed
him.  He still has a good appetite.  He seems so depressed now. 
I am so heart broken that I cry almost daily.  I am not strong enough to
let him go.  I feel that it isn't up to me to play god and that he will go
when he is ready.  He just keeps fighting.  He is so much braver than
me.  I took him to the Virginia Tech Veterinary hospital on August
1st.  They were wanting to run alot of tests.  The tests were very
risky, so I decided against them.  Now I feel that I have no choice and I
have to find out what is wrong with him and see if there is something that can
be done.  I don't know what I will do without him.  I am so scared of
losing him.












Re: My ANGEL Sebastian

2005-09-19 Thread Lernermichelle



I think that it is reasonable to feel like you should let him be, and let him live, especially since he still has a good appetite. Does he like attention?  I don't know if you were on the list in January, when my Simon, who ultimately died a month later, was so bad he was unable to walk, etc.  Everybody on the list, including me and the vets, thought he was dying.  Many people thought I should euthanize him. But even though he was not eating or anything, he purred when I pet him, so I just stayed with him.  Three days later, when I thought he would be dead within hours, steroids given days earlier kicked in and he improved to the point that he was running around the next day.  He had only one more month, but it was a good month.  I am glad that I did not euthanize him then.  You do not know what will happen.
 
However, I also think that you are right to rethink doing the tests now that he is in such bad shape.  I think it might be worth the risk.  But that is a tough call too.
 
I am so sorry that you are going through this. I have been there. There is nothing worse.
Michelle
 
In a message dated 9/19/2005 1:16:10 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I have not written for so long because I feel that I have given up hope.  Sebastian has not been doing very well.  He can no longer walk and he relies on me to take him to the litter box and to feed him.  He still has a good appetite.  He seems so depressed now.  I am so heart broken that I cry almost daily.  I am not strong enough to let him go.  I feel that it isn't up to me to play god and that he will go when he is ready.  He just keeps fighting.  He is so much braver than me.  I took him to the Virginia Tech Veterinary hospital on August 1st.  They were wanting to run alot of tests.  The tests were very risky, so I decided against them.  Now I feel that I have no choice and I have to find out what is wrong with him and see if there is something that can be done.  I don't know what I will do without him.  I am so scared of losing him.



My ANGEL Sebastian

2005-09-19 Thread JENNIFER RATLIFF

I have not written for so long because I feel that I have given up hope.  Sebastian has not been doing very well.  He can no longer walk and he relies on me to take him to the litter box and to feed him.  He still has a good appetite.  He seems so depressed now.  I am so heart broken that I cry almost daily.  I am not strong enough to let him go.  I feel that it isn't up to me to play god and that he will go when he is ready.  He just keeps fighting.  He is so much braver than me.  I took him to the Virginia Tech Veterinary hospital on August 1st.  They were wanting to run alot of tests.  The tests were very risky, so I decided against them.  Now I feel that I have no choice and I have to find out what is wrong with him and see if there is something that can be done.  I don't know what I will do without him.  I am so scared of losing him.




Sebastian

2005-08-04 Thread JENNIFER RATLIFF

Thanks so much Kerry and Nina for your help.  I do not know what I would without all of you.  
I feel bad sometimes because I only ask for advice.  I don't feel that I have enough expierence to give any.  Sebastian is my first FELV+ kitty.
Nina, When was your dog diagnosed with DM?
Could I give Sebastian Interferon, Immuno regulin, and his vitamins?  Is that to many things?  Is there any point to give Interferon And Immuno Regulin?




Re: Sweet Sebastian

2005-08-03 Thread Kerry MacKenzie



I'm sorry to hear about Sebastian's continuing leg problems, 
Jennifer. Earlier this evening I filed the email below for my own future 
reference, from fellow listmember Laurie, sent on July 18, and I thought you 
might be interested in it with a view to the next step with 
Sebastian.
I'm sending lots of healing vibes for Sebastian--from 
everything you've described he's such a brave little cat and sure deserves a 
break.
Wishing you and Sebastian all the best
Kerry
 
Hello, 
I have 
written numerous messages to the board about my cat, BJ. Well, we adopted 
another cat, a female orange tabby named Mitzi. Both are feline leukemia 
positive and both are doing great. For those who might not know our story, here 
it is. My brother and I adopted a black and white domestic shorthair we call BJ. 
At the time, he was perfectly healthy. Then, three weeks later he had polyps in 
his left ear and had surgery to remove them. His middle ear was removed and his 
left ear closed. He has had no residual effect and his hearing is 
fine.Then, 
about two months later, he began having strange, unexplained fevers and was 
lethargic and not eating well. The diagnosis was feline leukemia. The prognosis 
given by our vet at the time, a traditional vet, was grim to say the least. She 
said the best thing to do was to have BJ euthanized. We immediately started 
looking for a vet who could 
help.Our last 
appointment with that vet was on a Friday. We took BJ home that night and had a 
consultation with an alternative vet the next Monday morning.  She 
practices holistic and homeopathic as well as tradition veterinary medicine. 
Some of her methods are not recognized by the American Veterinary Medical 
Association. Some traditional veterinarians would bristle at her ideas about 
good dog and cat nutrition. 
However, 
today, under our new vet's care, BJ is, for all intense and purposes, healthy. 
He shows no outward sign of illness, even though he still tests positive for 
feline leukemia. For anyone looking for good veterinary care for an FeLV+ cat or 
kitten, the best suggestion I can give is to contact the AHVMA, the Holistic 
Veterinary Medical Association using this link http://www.ahvma.org/referral/. It may help you find a vet 
in your area who can treat your cat's or kitten's condition. 
I wish I 
could tell you how much it means to my brother and me to have a vet who has made 
the choice to treat feline leukemia, not just kill the host. She has the 
knowledge expertise to do what a traditional vet could not do. When we were 
given BJ's diagnosis a year ago, it was like getting hit by a truck. When we 
were told there was nothing to do but put him to sleep, it was like getting hit 
by a truck again. We knew very little about the illness then. However, we knew 
that if there was any chance that our precious BJ could live a good life with 
this disease, then that's what he would do.  We have never looked back and 
are thankful every single day that we made the choice to get BJ treated. 
Our vet also 
successfully treats our little one, Mitzi. She is now almost nine months old and 
is a curious, rambunctious, lively cat. Our non-traditional vet has made a world 
of difference for our entire family.Laurie B. Oliver

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  JENNIFER RATLIFF 
  To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 5:41 
  PM
  Subject: Sweet Sebastian
  
  
  
  I was finally able to get Sebastian in to see an internist and a 
  nuerologist.  The vet believes that the weakness in his back legs could 
  be a mass on his spinal cord or lesions all along his spine.  They would 
  have to do more tests to be sure.  Even after the tests there is no 
  real treatment for either, so I decided not to put him through all of 
  that.  He can barely walk anymore.  I can not bare to see him this 
  way.  Has anyone had any similar problems with there Felv+ kitties?  
  Is there anything I can do?  Maybe an alternative vet?  
  Also does anyone know the shelf life of 
Interferon?


Re: Sweet Sebastian

2005-08-03 Thread Nina

Jennifer,
I'm sorry Sebastian's visit to the vet wasn't more optimistic.  It does 
sound like you made the right decision about not doing further tests.  
My German Shepherd suffers from Degenerative Myelopathy, (degenerative 
spinal disease).  I too was told that there wasn't anything I could do 
to help him.  Does what they think Sebastian is suffering from have a 
name?  I did a search for DM for my Zevon on the web and came up with a 
couple of sites that talk about diet, medication, massage and exercise, 
(to keep the muscles in his back legs from atrophying).  The things I'm 
doing, (Flax seed oil, Lyprinol, Glucosamine/Chondroitin, MSM in his food,
massage and exercise), have definitely helped Zevon.  When I brought him 
to the ER, he could barely stand, they treated him overnight with, (I'm 
sorry, I never did get it completely straight), some sort of mega 
steroid treatment and his function was a bit improved in about a week.  
Since then he has improved somewhat in mobility and has not had any 
further loss of function.  Might Sebastian be helped with anti 
inflammatory therapy?


Interferon A lasts for at least 6 months in the fridge after it's 
reconstituted.


I'm praying you find the answers you need to help Sebastian,
Nina


JENNIFER RATLIFF wrote:



I was finally able to get Sebastian in to see an internist and a 
nuerologist.  The vet believes that the weakness in his back legs 
could be a mass on his spinal cord or lesions all along his spine.  
They would have to do more tests to be sure.  Even after the tests 
there is no real treatment for either, so I decided not to put him 
through all of that.  He can barely walk anymore.  I can not bare to 
see him this way.  Has anyone had any similar problems with there 
Felv+ kitties?  Is there anything I can do?  Maybe an alternative vet? 


Also does anyone know the shelf life of Interferon?






Re: Sweet Sebastian

2005-08-03 Thread maimaipg



I haven't had that problem with a cat but I have had 2 
dogs who have had problems helped by an alternative vet who practices 
acupuncture.  I can't tell you that she extended their lives but I know the 
quality was much better and I felt considerably better.  Right now she is 
working with Dixie Louise.  It is worth a shot.  
 
 
- Original Message - 

  From: 
  JENNIFER RATLIFF 
  To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 6:41 
  PM
  Subject: Sweet Sebastian
  
  
  
  I was finally able to get Sebastian in to see an internist and a 
  nuerologist.  The vet believes that the weakness in his back legs could 
  be a mass on his spinal cord or lesions all along his spine.  They would 
  have to do more tests to be sure.  Even after the tests there is no 
  real treatment for either, so I decided not to put him through all of 
  that.  He can barely walk anymore.  I can not bare to see him this 
  way.  Has anyone had any similar problems with there Felv+ kitties?  
  Is there anything I can do?  Maybe an alternative vet?  
  Also does anyone know the shelf life of 
Interferon?


Sweet Sebastian

2005-08-03 Thread JENNIFER RATLIFF

I was finally able to get Sebastian in to see an internist and a nuerologist.  The vet believes that the weakness in his back legs could be a mass on his spinal cord or lesions all along his spine.  They would have to do more tests to be sure.  Even after the tests there is no real treatment for either, so I decided not to put him through all of that.  He can barely walk anymore.  I can not bare to see him this way.  Has anyone had any similar problems with there Felv+ kitties?  Is there anything I can do?  Maybe an alternative vet?  
Also does anyone know the shelf life of Interferon?




RE: Sebastian

2005-07-27 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto








Hi, I am wondering if it’s related
to nerve, if acupuncture will work for him – 

I know what you mean about steroid –
my holistic vet is the only one who seriously warned me about the side effect
of steroid – and I usually have said “no” – unless it’
was absolutely necessary (which I did with my dogs when they had a disc
problem) -  and two years on the steroid seems awfully long time to be on -  I
think that vet prescribe steroid and antibiotics for that matter way too much
without considering serious side effects - 

 









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Subject: Sebastian



 





Anemia has been ruled out for Sebastian.  He
recently had blood work done and everything looked great.  I vets say it
may be something in his spinal cord.  I am very worried.  Sebastian
was put on Depo Medrol for a two year period because of mouth sores.  It
helped with the sores, but at the time I was not aware of the effects of long
term steroid use.  I am very upset with the vet because he didn't inform
me of any of this.  I did not know that the steroids weakened his immune
system.  I am 












Re: Sebastian

2005-07-27 Thread Lernermichelle



Again, look into Cushings disease, which can be brought on by steroid use long-term and can weaken hind legs.
 
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Anemia has been ruled out for Sebastian.  He recently had blood work done and everything looked great.  I vets say it may be something in his spinal cord.  I am very worried.  Sebastian was put on Depo Medrol for a two year period because of mouth sores.  It helped with the sores, but at the time I was not aware of the effects of long term steroid use.  I am very upset with the vet because he didn't inform me of any of this.  I did not know that the steroids weakened his immune system.  I am 



Sebastian

2005-07-27 Thread JENNIFER RATLIFF

Anemia has been ruled out for Sebastian.  He recently had blood work done and everything looked great.  I vets say it may be something in his spinal cord.  I am very worried.  Sebastian was put on Depo Medrol for a two year period because of mouth sores.  It helped with the sores, but at the time I was not aware of the effects of long term steroid use.  I am very upset with the vet because he didn't inform me of any of this.  I did not know that the steroids weakened his immune system.  I am 




Re: Sebastian

2005-07-01 Thread Lernermichelle



Hi. I remembered today that you should look into Cushings Syndrome. I do 
not know if cats get it, but dogs, horses, and humans do. It comes from too much 
cortisone (which depo  is a form of). Sometimes people develop it from 
their bodies producing too much, and sometimes from having a reaction to getting 
it supplemented long-term with steroid shots and pills. Common symptoms include 
weakness in the hind end and weight loss.  In horses they tend to grown 
strange long hair, but I think in humans it can result in hair thinning and in 
cats it might also. I believe the only cure is stopping the cortisone (and no 
real cure if it comes on without steroids being supplemented). 
Michelle


RE: Sebastian

2005-06-30 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto








No, V-B-12 methylcobalamin is not only for
diabetic cat – if you go to a health store, they will tell you that this
form of the vitamin B is much more better absorbed than other form of V-B –
regular V-B is not absorbed well in their body (my holistic vet told me the
same thing) – I have been using a pill of V-B-12 methylcobalamin every
day to her (she is feLV positive) – it’s helps the nerves in hind
legs – please try – it will not hurt, it can only help!

 









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Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005
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Subject: Sebastian



 





A began to see a slight weakness in Sebastian's legs
at the beginning of May.  I took him to the vet for his regular Depo
injections and the vet (the first vet) noticed that he had lost 1 pound and his
coat was thinning.  We then decided not to do the depo and check his blood
work.  the blood work was good, so we decided not to do any depo at that
time.  After this his legs gradually got worse.  Now it is hard for
him to walk and jump.  A few weeks ago I decided to resume the depo
because he had done so well on it and after we stopped is when he began to get
worse.  He is also getting a B 12 shot every week.  I think that it
may have helped.  I had the vet give a low dose of 10mg.  Before he
was getting 20mg and 40mg.  He is gaining some of his weight back, but his
legs are still so weak.  I have read alot about V B-12 methylcobalamin,
but everything I found had to do with diabetic cats.  Should I try this
anyone because he is not diabetic?  Could it hurt him?












Re: Sebastian

2005-06-29 Thread Lernermichelle




Do you give him CoQ10? It helps with gum problems.  I give it to my 
positives every morning mixed in baby food with other supplements.  Has the 
depo helped with it a lot?
 
I would really take Sebastian to a board-certified internist about his 
problems. I really would think all these symptoms could in fact come from being 
on depo for so long, but from what you say it sounds like he does better on it. 
So maybe something else is going on.
 
Michelle
 
In a message dated 6/29/05 2:23:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Sebastian's depo was orginally started because he has red, infected 
  gums.  His gums have been a problem since he was 
  born.

 


Sebastian

2005-06-29 Thread JENNIFER RATLIFF

Sebastian's depo was orginally started because he has red, infected gums.  His gums have been a problem since he was born.




Re: Sebastian

2005-06-29 Thread Lernermichelle



What is he getting the depo for? 
Michelle


Sebastian

2005-06-28 Thread JENNIFER RATLIFF

A began to see a slight weakness in Sebastian's legs at the beginning of May.  I took him to the vet for his regular Depo injections and the vet (the first vet) noticed that he had lost 1 pound and his coat was thinning.  We then decided not to do the depo and check his blood work.  the blood work was good, so we decided not to do any depo at that time.  After this his legs gradually got worse.  Now it is hard for him to walk and jump.  A few weeks ago I decided to resume the depo because he had done so well on it and after we stopped is when he began to get worse.  He is also getting a B 12 shot every week.  I think that it may have helped.  I had the vet give a low dose of 10mg.  Before he was getting 20mg and 40mg.  He is gaining some of his weight back, but his legs are still so weak.  I have read alot about V B-12 
methylcobalamin, but everything I found had to do with diabetic cats.  Should I try this anyone because he is not diabetic?  Could it hurt him?




RE: Sebastian

2005-06-28 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto








Did you say that you have done the X-ray
already to see she has not spinal cord or disk problem or anything??

 









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Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 3:27
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Subject: RE: Sebastian



 

Hi, Jennifer, B-12 is still going to be
helpful – it absorbs more appropriately in the body that other V-B (I
give it to Ginger every day, too) – so please feel free to do so. V-B is
safe, any extra they may take, it will get washed out from the body,
don’t worry at all about overdosing .

 

Is there any other symptoms? Does he eat
ok?  Has he lost weight?? I will ask my holistic vet to see if he has any
idea about the condition.

 









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Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 1:29
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To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Sebastian



 





Thanks so
much Nina and Hideyo for all of your help!!!

The vet was pleased with the results of Sebastian's
blood work.  I still can not figure out what is causing the weakness in
his hind legs.  He is falling all of the time now and he laid down in the
litter box today when he was trying to use the bathroom.  I have checked
on the b 12 methylycobalamin.  He is not diabetic.  Should I give it
to him anyway to see if it will help?  Is there a maximum dose because I
know that you can overdose on some vitamins?  Everyone just seems to think
that the weakness is just becasue of the leukemia, but I refuse to believe
that.  His blood work was good and I want to try every option to try and
help his legs.  Has anyone seen similar problems in their positive
kitties?  Sebastian was on a high dose of depo medrol for about a year and
a half.  This may be the cause of the weakness.  I just need
help.  I feel overwhelmed.  












RE: Sebastian

2005-06-28 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto








Hi, Jennifer, B-12 is still going to be
helpful – it absorbs more appropriately in the body that other V-B (I
give it to Ginger every day, too) – so please feel free to do so. V-B is
safe, any extra they may take, it will get washed out from the body, don’t
worry at all about overdosing .

 

Is there any other symptoms? Does he eat
ok?  Has he lost weight?? I will ask my holistic vet to see if he has any idea
about the condition.

 









From:
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Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 1:29
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Subject: Sebastian



 





Thanks so
much Nina and Hideyo for all of your help!!!

The vet was pleased with the results of Sebastian's
blood work.  I still can not figure out what is causing the weakness in
his hind legs.  He is falling all of the time now and he laid down in the
litter box today when he was trying to use the bathroom.  I have checked
on the b 12 methylycobalamin.  He is not diabetic.  Should I give it
to him anyway to see if it will help?  Is there a maximum dose because I
know that you can overdose on some vitamins?  Everyone just seems to think
that the weakness is just becasue of the leukemia, but I refuse to believe
that.  His blood work was good and I want to try every option to try and
help his legs.  Has anyone seen similar problems in their positive
kitties?  Sebastian was on a high dose of depo medrol for about a year and
a half.  This may be the cause of the weakness.  I just need
help.  I feel overwhelmed.  












Re: Sebastian

2005-06-28 Thread Nina
I meant to say Internists and Orthopedists! 
Nina


Nina wrote:


Jennifer,
Who are you taking Sebastian to?  They are ignorant about FeLV.  This 
is not a "symptom" of the disease.  You need to find a veterinary 
specialty clinic, (one that has board certified Internists and 
Cardiologists), to take Sebastian to, get his records sent over to 
them and start having someone take more of an interest in what is 
going on with him!  Your regular vet should be able to recommend a 
hospital, or call the emergency clinic in your area and ask for a 
reference.


The Vit B dose I was giving Gypsy was 1cc, but she's a small cat.  Get 
yourself a decent vet that will work on your behalf in finding a way 
to help your boy.  (Even your crummy vet should be able to tell you 
how much Vit B to give).  I don't know if that will help Sebastian, or 
not.  Vit B helps perk them up, I do know that, and it's given to 
kitties that are having a problem with absorbing nutrients from their 
food.  Did you ever find out about Sebastian's potassium levels?  It 
sounds like his legs are getting worse, if this is the first time 
you've seen him having trouble holding himself up to defecate.  Please 
get on this asap!

Nina

JENNIFER RATLIFF wrote:


Thanks so much Nina and Hideyo for all of your help!!!

The vet was pleased with the results of Sebastian's blood work.  I 
still can not figure out what is causing the weakness in his hind 
legs.  He is falling all of the time now and he laid down in the 
litter box today when he was trying to use the bathroom.  I have 
checked on the b 12 methylycobalamin.  He is not diabetic.  Should I 
give it to him anyway to see if it will help?  Is there a maximum 
dose because I know that you can overdose on some vitamins?  Everyone 
just seems to think that the weakness is just becasue of the 
leukemia, but I refuse to believe that.  His blood work was good and 
I want to try every option to try and help his legs.  Has anyone seen 
similar problems in their positive kitties?  Sebastian was on a high 
dose of depo medrol for about a year and a half.  This may be the 
cause of the weakness.  I just need help.  I feel overwhelmed.











Re: Sebastian

2005-06-28 Thread Nina

Jennifer,
Who are you taking Sebastian to?  They are ignorant about FeLV.  This is 
not a "symptom" of the disease.  You need to find a veterinary specialty 
clinic, (one that has board certified Internists and Cardiologists), to 
take Sebastian to, get his records sent over to them and start having 
someone take more of an interest in what is going on with him!  Your 
regular vet should be able to recommend a hospital, or call the 
emergency clinic in your area and ask for a reference.


The Vit B dose I was giving Gypsy was 1cc, but she's a small cat.  Get 
yourself a decent vet that will work on your behalf in finding a way to 
help your boy.  (Even your crummy vet should be able to tell you how 
much Vit B to give).  I don't know if that will help Sebastian, or not.  
Vit B helps perk them up, I do know that, and it's given to kitties that 
are having a problem with absorbing nutrients from their food.  Did you 
ever find out about Sebastian's potassium levels?  It sounds like his 
legs are getting worse, if this is the first time you've seen him having 
trouble holding himself up to defecate.  Please get on this asap!

Nina

JENNIFER RATLIFF wrote:


Thanks so much Nina and Hideyo for all of your help!!!

The vet was pleased with the results of Sebastian's blood work.  I 
still can not figure out what is causing the weakness in his hind 
legs.  He is falling all of the time now and he laid down in the 
litter box today when he was trying to use the bathroom.  I have 
checked on the b 12 methylycobalamin.  He is not diabetic.  Should I 
give it to him anyway to see if it will help?  Is there a maximum dose 
because I know that you can overdose on some vitamins?  Everyone just 
seems to think that the weakness is just becasue of the leukemia, but 
I refuse to believe that.  His blood work was good and I want to try 
every option to try and help his legs.  Has anyone seen similar 
problems in their positive kitties?  Sebastian was on a high dose of 
depo medrol for about a year and a half.  This may be the cause of the 
weakness.  I just need help.  I feel overwhelmed. 






Re: Sebastian

2005-06-28 Thread Lernermichelle



There is NO way that his weakness is the direct result of his leukemia 
virus, because all the leukemia virus does is weaken the immune system to other 
diseases.  So if it is the result of a disease, it is some other disease-- 
which he may have gotten due to having a compromised immune system from the 
FeLV.  Or an injury. There are long-term effects of depo, including muscle 
wasting. When did the depo end? If it is from the depo I would have expected it 
to start while he was still on the depo, as that is when his muscles would have 
been wasting. Our dog who was on steroids long-term developed weakness in her 
hind end also, but she developed it while on the steroids.
Michelle


Sebastian

2005-06-28 Thread JENNIFER RATLIFF

Thanks so much Nina and Hideyo for all of your help!!!
The vet was pleased with the results of Sebastian's blood work.  I still can not figure out what is causing the weakness in his hind legs.  He is falling all of the time now and he laid down in the litter box today when he was trying to use the bathroom.  I have checked on the b 12 methylycobalamin.  He is not diabetic.  Should I give it to him anyway to see if it will help?  Is there a maximum dose because I know that you can overdose on some vitamins?  Everyone just seems to think that the weakness is just becasue of the leukemia, but I refuse to believe that.  His blood work was good and I want to try every option to try and help his legs.  Has anyone seen similar problems in their positive kitties?  Sebastian was on a high dose of depo medrol for about a year and a half.  This may be the cause of the weakness.  I just need help.  I feel overwhelmed.  




Re: Sebastian

2005-06-24 Thread catatonya
Jennifer,
 
I must have missed the message about what's going on with Sebastian.  I think it's great you've got a vet willing to do some of Dr. Plechner's tests though.  I hope you find out what's going on with Sebastian and he is better soon.
 
tonyaJENNIFER RATLIFF <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



I took Sebastian to the vet to get some blood work done.  I took the vet Dr. Plechner's book and we are running some of his tests.  Sebastian's mood is good.  He sleeps alot more than usual and his back legs are so weak.  I don't know what could be causing the weakness.  I have to do everything that I can.  I have been crying myself to sleep at night because I am so worried about him and I can't imagine him leaving me.  I need help.  

RE: Sebastian

2005-06-24 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto








Did you already run a regular total body
function blood test, which can tell most of the organ functions, blood count
and so forth..if not, I would recommend that you do it also – but I am
glad that his mood is good.

 









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Subject: Sebastian



 





I took Sebastian to the vet to get some blood work
done.  I took the vet Dr. Plechner's book and we are running some of his
tests.  Sebastian's mood is good.  He sleeps alot more than usual and
his back legs are so weak.  I don't know what could be causing the
weakness.  I have to do everything that I can.  I have been crying
myself to sleep at night because I am so worried about him and I can't imagine
him leaving me.  I need help.  












RE: Sebastian

2005-06-24 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto








Jennifer, I just thought of something –
he is not diabetic at all?  What was his glucose level?  And how are his paws/ankles
when he stands on hind legs – is his ankle touching the floor or can he
lift it?  There is a disease called neuropathy, which their hind legs get
really weak -  It happened to Leo, and the below fixed Leo in a couple of days:
please read below:

 

Please try V-B 12 called methylcobalamin (it’s different from
regular V-B 12 ) – it works really well on neurological problem -

And it’s safe, it’s very effective
for some degree of neuropathy. So do start your cat on methylcobalamin (3 MG
give BETWEEN meals is a good starting dose. You can order it on the phone at
888-433-5266. I recommend Lifelink’s Xobaline (zo-bah-leen) brand, and it
comes in 60 tablet bottles of 3 MG tablets. They’ll ship it Priority, and
you’ll have it within 2 or 3 days if you’re in the US.   But you
can also get it at a regular vitamin store - 

 









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Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 11:25
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Subject: Sebastian



 





I took Sebastian to the vet to get some blood work
done.  I took the vet Dr. Plechner's book and we are running some of his
tests.  Sebastian's mood is good.  He sleeps alot more than usual and
his back legs are so weak.  I don't know what could be causing the
weakness.  I have to do everything that I can.  I have been crying
myself to sleep at night because I am so worried about him and I can't imagine
him leaving me.  I need help.  












Re: Sebastian

2005-06-24 Thread Nina

Jennifer,
I feel for you.  I know how hard it is dealing with a loved one's 
illness.  I can understand why you are crying yourself to sleep at 
night.  That helpless feeling can be overwhelming at times.  Please try 
to control the worry and anxiety.  I know it's easier said than done, 
but Sebastian is still with you, his mood is good, try and take your cue 
from him.  Do your best to enjoy the time you have together.  He hasn't 
left you yet, don't act as though he has.  Talk to him and tell him how 
much he means to you, that you're happy he's part of your life and 
grateful for the lessons that you've learned together.  He wants you to 
smile.  He loves you, it can't help him to know that he is causing you 
to be unhappy.  Focus on the quality of the moment when you are 
together, not the fears for the future.  Keep searching for ways to help 
him, cultivate a positive attitude and don't waste this time together.

Nina

JENNIFER RATLIFF wrote:

I took Sebastian to the vet to get some blood work done.  I took the 
vet Dr. Plechner's book and we are running some of his tests.  
Sebastian's mood is good.  He sleeps alot more than usual and his back 
legs are so weak.  I don't know what could be causing the weakness.  I 
have to do everything that I can.  I have been crying myself to sleep 
at night because I am so worried about him and I can't imagine him 
leaving me.  I need help. 






Re: Sebastian

2005-06-24 Thread Belinda Sauro

Ask about his potassium level, low potassium causes back end weakness.

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Sebastian

2005-06-24 Thread JENNIFER RATLIFF

I took Sebastian to the vet to get some blood work done.  I took the vet Dr. Plechner's book and we are running some of his tests.  Sebastian's mood is good.  He sleeps alot more than usual and his back legs are so weak.  I don't know what could be causing the weakness.  I have to do everything that I can.  I have been crying myself to sleep at night because I am so worried about him and I can't imagine him leaving me.  I need help.  




Re: Sebastian

2005-06-19 Thread Kerry MacKenzie



Jennifer
Your email body text hasn't come through either time---hope 
Sebastian is OK?
Can you try sending your message again?
Kerry

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  JENNIFER RATLIFF 
  To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 4:29 PM
  Subject: Sebastian 
  
  


Sebastian

2005-06-19 Thread JENNIFER RATLIFF





Sebastian

2005-06-19 Thread JENNIFER RATLIFF





RE: Sebastian Update

2005-06-10 Thread Doljan, Joan
Title: Message



I find 
Pet Tinic works well. It is a liquid vitamin, high in iron and is an appetite 
enhancer as well.
 
I hope 
Sebastian continues to improve.
 
Joan

  
  -Original Message-From: JENNIFER RATLIFF 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 
  10:22 PMTo: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: 
  Sebastian Update
  
  
  Sebastian has been doing alot better.  His hind legs are getting a 
  little stronger.  I am still looking for a good vet that has alot of 
  exprience dealing with +kitties.  I have tried to pull up the list on the 
  kitties website, but I can't for some reason.  I live in West 
  Virginia.  Also, does anyone know of any vitamins or supplements that I 
  should being giving Sebastian on a daily basis to help with his appetite and 
  immune system.
  P.S I am praying for 
Bramble.


Re: Sebastian Update

2005-06-09 Thread felv



I'm glad to hear Sebastian is doing better! There 
aren't any vets on the website for W. Virginia, or even Virginia, so what you'll 
probably need to do is just call around to all of them in the phone book. A good 
opening question is "I have a cat with Feline Leukemia, what should I do?" the 
really bad ones will tell you that there's not much you can do, and that you may 
just consider euthanizing him, so you'll know right off to cross those off the 
list. If they reply, "Well, it depends on the cat, and if he's acting sick or 
not." then you might want to ask that vet more questions, like "I've heard that 
there are treatments for FELV, such as Interferon and Immunoregulin, do you have 
any experience with using those treatments for FELV+ cats?" If they say yes, 
then they may be a good vet to use, if they say no, then they may just need to 
be educated, OR they may not be willing to be educated. If they say no, ask them 
"I have a lot of info about the new treatments for FELV, and I'd like to try 
them on my FELV+ cat. I know you don't have any experience with this sort of 
thing, but if I bring you all the info, will you help me develop a good 
treatment plan for my cat?" If they say they are willing to learn, then that may 
be the best you can find in your area (it was the best I could do around 
here).
 
Those are just suggestions to give you an idea of 
things you can ask. Just start at the top, and work your way down the listings 
in the phone book. You can use a marker in the phone book, cross out the 
ovbiously bad vets, and maybe highlight the ones that sound the best as you go 
down. Then when you narrow it down to a few possibilities, you can call them 
back, and ask if them what their payment policys are, where they are located, 
and their prices in general. Do a drive by of them all, check out the condition 
of the facilities, make sure they are in neighborhoods you feel safe going to. 
Use your own judgement, and choose one. Try him/her out, if you get bad vibes 
(or no vibes), next time try another one, until one just "clicks" for you. I 
really believe you will just know when you find the right one.
 
Another thing I like to make sure of, is if the 
vet is up to date on current vaccination protocols. Are they even aware of the 
AVMA's current vaccination site locations? http://www.avma.org/vafstf/sitercmnd.asp ANY 
vet that goes to give ANY injection in the scruff of your cat's neck is a BAD 
VET! If you see him/her approaching your cat's neck with a shot, STOP him, her, 
and ASK, "WHAT ARE YOU DOING?!!" and take your cat elsewhere ASAP! You can even 
ask them before you make your appointment, "Is Dr. Whoever aware of the current 
vaccination site recommendations for felines as stated by the AVMA and AAFP?" if 
the receptionist does not know, then you can ask her "Does the he/she give cats 
their vaccinations in their scruff, or in the lower legs?"
 
Here's a good place to start, all of these WV 
vets are members of the AAFP (the American Association of Feline 
Practioners):
http://www.aafponline.org/find_results.php?name=&city=Any&state=WV&zipcode=&Submit=Submit
All AAFP vets should at least know about how to 
properly vaccinate and the correct vaccination schedule (every 3 years in most 
cases):
http://www.aafponline.org/resources/guidelines/vaccine.pdf
Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html 

 
~~~I 
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Re: Sebastian Update

2005-06-09 Thread Gloria Lane
What have you dont for Sebastion that's helped him, do you think?   
I'm SO GLAD that he's doing better.


Gloria


On Jun 9, 2005, at 9:21 PM, JENNIFER RATLIFF wrote:

Sebastian has been doing alot better.  His hind legs are getting a  
little stronger.  I am still looking for a good vet that has alot  
of exprience dealing with +kitties.  I have tried to pull up the  
list on the kitties website, but I can't for some reason.  I live  
in West Virginia.  Also, does anyone know of any vitamins or  
supplements that I should being giving Sebastian on a daily basis  
to help with his appetite and immune system.


P.S I am praying for Bramble.






Sebastian Update

2005-06-09 Thread JENNIFER RATLIFF

Sebastian has been doing alot better.  His hind legs are getting a little stronger.  I am still looking for a good vet that has alot of exprience dealing with +kitties.  I have tried to pull up the list on the kitties website, but I can't for some reason.  I live in West Virginia.  Also, does anyone know of any vitamins or supplements that I should being giving Sebastian on a daily basis to help with his appetite and immune system.
P.S I am praying for Bramble.




Re: Sebastian needs help!!!!

2005-06-06 Thread carlas
Jen

I used immuregulin on fiv cat with anemia, Where do you live?
My vet didn't know much and used a protcol book, found a vet who 
was very experienced with this and he helped me a lot.

You may look up on felv archieve someone used it on a 
felv/anemia cat way back. 

Carla



Re: Sebastian needs help!!!!

2005-06-04 Thread Belinda Sauro
  PS.  Laurie  -  Just as a footnote to your post, cats should always 
get prednisilone not prednisone (note spelling), the prednisilone is 
MUCH easier on the liver. Prednisone is very hard on kitties liver.


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Re: Sebastian needs help!!!!

2005-06-03 Thread Laurie B. Oliver


Hello, Jennifer,
When my BJ
was diagnosed with feline leukemia in July, 2004, I began to research the
disease and its treatments. Acemannen and ImmunoRegulin (correct
spelling) are treatments for the disease, according to what I read.
However, I would go to someone who knows how to administer the drugs
correctly.
At the
time of BJ's diagnosis, we were going to a traditional veterinarian who
"recommended" that we euthanize him right away. The vet said
that feline leukemia a fatal disease and the BJ would just keep getting
sicker. I was not about to give up on him. I knew that if feline leukemia
was a treatable illness and that BJ could have a good quality of life,
that's what he would have.
I
immediately got on the Internet and tried to find out everything I could
about the illness. As a result, I found that it could be successfully
treated by vets who practice alternative veterinary techniques. I looked
for such a vet in my area and found one in the Yellow Pages of my local
phone book. 
She has
been a God-send.  Later, when the virus flared up in BJ, our new vet
treated him with prednisone.  I am not a
veterinarian and cannot dispense medical advice. I am not saying that
prednisone is what should be given to Sebastian.  I am saying that
if Sebastian were mine, I would find an alternative vet in my area who
knows how to treat the disease. Everyone else might just be guessing and
that can possibly be worse than doing nothing.
During my
search, I talked to anyone who would listen and told my story. I
specifically asked each vet if he or she was successful in treating
feline leukemia. I asked about treatments they use, their success rate,
the potential life span with the illness, etc. When I found a vet who
seemed to fit BJ's needs, I made the first available appointment with
her. I have NEVER regretted my decision. 
I hope
this bit of advice has been helpful. If there is anything I can do to
help, please let me know.
Laurie B.
Oliver 

At 05:45 PM 6/3/2005, you wrote:

I have just returned from the
vet.  Sebastian's hind legs are weaker and he has lost more
weight.  The vet just doesn't seem to want to work with me and do
absolutley everything for my baby.  When I asked her about the
weakness in his hind legs she said that it could just be the disesase
attacking his nervous system.  She also stated, "I don't want
to give up on him because he is FELV+."  Givving up on
Sebastian is the last thing that I am doing!  I was not happy with
that remark.  I want her to do everything and anything to try and
help him.  I suggested drugs like Immunoreglin and Acemannan and she
had never used them and said she wasn't sure if you could even use them
on cats.  She just doesn't seem as if she knows what she is
doing.  So, my question is Does anyone have any experience using
Immunoreglin on their cats?  and DOes anyone have a vet who is up to
date on alot of Feline Leukemia treatments and is dedicated to doing what
it takes to help?  I will go anywhere.  I just need help
finding a really good vet.




Re: Sebastian needs help!!!!

2005-06-03 Thread Lernermichelle




Also, he could have lymophoma, a cancer which positives have a tendency 
toward. It is often responsive to chemotherapy, but it would need to be 
diagnosed first. So I would try to get to an internist.
Michelle
 
In a message dated 6/3/05 6:46:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I 
  have just returned from the vet.  Sebastian's hind legs are weaker and he 
  has lost more weight.  The vet just doesn't seem to want to work with me 
  and do absolutley everything for my baby.  When I asked her about the 
  weakness in his hind legs she said that it could just be the disesase 
  attacking his nervous system.  She also stated, "I don't want to give up 
  on him because he is FELV+."  Givving up on Sebastian is the last thing 
  that I am doing!  I was not happy with that remark.  I want her to 
  do everything and anything to try and help him.  I suggested drugs like 
  Immunoreglin and Acemannan and she had never used them and said she wasn't 
  sure if you could even use them on cats.  She just doesn't seem as if she 
  knows what she is doing.  So, my question is Does anyone have any 
  experience using Immunoreglin on their cats?  and DOes anyone have a vet 
  who is up to date on alot of Feline Leukemia treatments and is dedicated to 
  doing what it takes to help?  I will go anywhere.  I just need help 
  finding a really good vet.

 


Re: Sebastian needs help!!!!

2005-06-03 Thread Lernermichelle




1. Where are you located? You should definitely try a different vet.  
I suggest that you try a board-certified internist. They are usually located at 
large veterinary hospitals and vet school clinics.  Do you have any of 
those near you? If so, call and ask if they have an internal medicine department 
with an internist on staff. They tend to be better and more knowledgeable, 
though, like with anything, they vary too.
 
2. I have used Immuno-regulin for bad upper respiratory infections and 
pneumonia and it seems to work. The dosage is .25 to .5 ml once or twice a week, 
by IV injection.  You can order it yourself and bring it to the vet to give 
to him. You can order it from Revival Animal Health, online. It sometimes 
produces fever, chills, and diarrhea for a few hours afterwards, but sometimes 
has no side effects at all. I have seen both, with my two cats I have tried it 
on.
 
3. You can also try feline interferon, which your vet has to get permission 
from the FDA to order. The info is in our archives. It is different from 
interferon alpha, available in the states.  Three of us have tried it and 
have not been as impressed with it as we had hoped, but it is hard to say 
exactly what effect it has had because there are so many variables and we 
do not know what would have happened without it.
 
Michelle
 
In a message dated 6/3/05 6:46:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I 
  have just returned from the vet.  Sebastian's hind legs are weaker and he 
  has lost more weight.  The vet just doesn't seem to want to work with me 
  and do absolutley everything for my baby.  When I asked her about the 
  weakness in his hind legs she said that it could just be the disesase 
  attacking his nervous system.  She also stated, "I don't want to give up 
  on him because he is FELV+."  Givving up on Sebastian is the last thing 
  that I am doing!  I was not happy with that remark.  I want her to 
  do everything and anything to try and help him.  I suggested drugs like 
  Immunoreglin and Acemannan and she had never used them and said she wasn't 
  sure if you could even use them on cats.  She just doesn't seem as if she 
  knows what she is doing.  So, my question is Does anyone have any 
  experience using Immunoreglin on their cats?  and DOes anyone have a vet 
  who is up to date on alot of Feline Leukemia treatments and is dedicated to 
  doing what it takes to help?  I will go anywhere.  I just need help 
  finding a really good vet.

 


Sebastian needs help!!!!

2005-06-03 Thread JENNIFER RATLIFF

I have just returned from the vet.  Sebastian's hind legs are weaker and he has lost more weight.  The vet just doesn't seem to want to work with me and do absolutley everything for my baby.  When I asked her about the weakness in his hind legs she said that it could just be the disesase attacking his nervous system.  She also stated, "I don't want to give up on him because he is FELV+."  Givving up on Sebastian is the last thing that I am doing!  I was not happy with that remark.  I want her to do everything and anything to try and help him.  I suggested drugs like Immunoreglin and Acemannan and she had never used them and said she wasn't sure if you could even use them on cats.  She just doesn't seem as if she knows what she is doing.  So, my question is Does anyone have any experience using Immunoreglin on their 
cats?  and DOes anyone have a vet who is up to date on alot of Feline Leukemia treatments and is dedicated to doing what it takes to help?  I will go anywhere.  I just need help finding a really good vet.