Re: [Fis] life cycles

2015-10-09 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
Dear FIS colleagues, The comments by Stan and Koichiro are intriguing. Particularly if we swap the term energy for information (communication exchanges). What kind of communication relationship develops between the living and the environment along the advancement of the life cycle? How does

[Fis] [Fwd: Information And Locality, Addendum's]--Steven

2015-10-02 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
(From Steven) Original Message Subject:Information And Locality, Addendum's Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2015 16:46:41 -0700 From: Steven Ericsson-Zenith To: Foundations of Information Science Information Science CC: Pedro

[Fis] [Fwd: Re: Information is a linguistic description of structures]--Terry

2015-09-28 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
From Terry... Original Message Subject:Re: [Fis] Information is a linguistic description of structures Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2015 22:13:14 -0700 From: Terrence W. Deacon <dea...@berkeley.edu> To: Pedro C. Marijuan <pcmarijuan.i...@aragon.es> CC: Gün

[Fis] [Fwd: Re: Information is a linguistic description of structures]

2015-09-28 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
.ri...@gmail.com> To: Pedro C. Marijuan <pcmarijuan.i...@aragon.es> CC: Günther Witzany <witz...@sbg.at>, <fa...@howardbloom.net>, fis <fis@listas.unizar.es>, Emanuel Diamant <emanl@gmail.com> References: <000201d0f68c$77d02b50$677081f0$@gmail.com> &l

[Fis] FW: Information is a linguistic description of structures--Loet

2015-09-28 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
*From:* Loet Leydesdorff [mailto:l...@leydesdorff.net] *Sent:* Saturday, September 26, 2015 12:42 PM *To:* 'Pedro C. Marijuan'; 'Günther Witzany'; 'fis' *Cc:* 'fa...@howardbloom.net'; 'Emanuel Diamant' *Subject:* RE: [Fis] Information is a linguistic description of structures Dear Pedro

Re: [Fis] Information is a linguistic description of structures

2015-09-25 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
Dear FISers and all, I include below another response to Immanuel post (from Guenther). I think he has penned an excellent response--my only addition is to expostulate a doubt. Should our analysis of the human (or cellular!) communication with the environment be related to linguistic

Re: [Fis] Information and Locality, on the Introduction

2015-09-18 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
Thanks Steven. I find it curious that you have referred to biophysical/physical grounds to establish meaning and apprehension. In the latter, it is rather unclear for me whether you put together in the same footing the taking away of a metabolite from the environment and the taking away of a

Re: [Fis] Information and Locality Introduction

2015-09-11 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
Dear Steven and FIS colleagues, Many thanks for this opening text. What you are proposing about a pretty structured discussion looks a good idea, although it will have to confront the usually anarchic discussion style of FIS list! Two aspects of your initial text have caught my attention (apart

[Fis] New Discussion Session

2015-09-04 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
Dear FIS Colleagues, The New Course is here, and with it, it is time to continue our discussion sessions. We will start next week with: INFORMATION AND LOCALITY, by Steven Ericsson-Zenith. Another three/four sessions are in the pipeline (remember the open invitation to suggest

Re: [Fis] Answer to Mark

2015-07-31 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
Dear Fernando, Luis, and FIS colleagues, In a few days the list will take vacations (it is our tradition that in August we do not make discussions). At your convenience, around next week better, you are invited to make some concluding comments if you find them opportune. The discussion has

Re: [Fis] Information Foundation of the Act--F.Flores L.deMarcos

2015-07-24 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
level of information value. However, the final two pages on the relationship between informational value and price look quite interesting and in my opinion they are the best section of the paper. Overall the attempt is quite brave and full of suggestions... Best--Pedro Pedro C. Marijuan

[Fis] Information Foundation of the Act--F.Flores L.deMarcos

2015-07-22 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
* The informational foundation of the act* *Fernando Flores* Lund University fernando.flo...@kultur.lu.se *Luis de-Marcos* University of Alcalá luis.demar...@uah.es /See the whole text at: http://fis.sciforum.net/resources// Our introducing paper (35 pages) presents a theory that quantifies

[Fis] Coming Discussion Sessions

2015-07-21 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
Dear FIS Colleagues, The tentative discussion calendar for next months is as follows: -- September (beginnings of): regular session about INFORMATION AND LOCALITY, by Steven Ericsson-Zenith. -- October (middle): regular session about AN INFORMATIONAL ECONOMY OF NATURE, by Nikhil Joshi.

[Fis] Concluding the Session on the Great Domains

2015-07-02 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
Dear FIS Colleagues, Current discussants are kindly asked to make a pause on the ongoing lateral exchanges, and leave attentional room for the Colophon of the Session that Moises and Ken are going to post these very days. It is important that we keep a discussion balance between the four

[Fis] POSTING IN THE LIST

2015-06-23 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
Dear FIS Colleagues, Some months ago, Dietrich Rordorf who manages our fis web pages server at MDPI (see his previous message), created a site for uploading/sharing files and papers by the FIS group at http://sciforum.net/group/fis . It was thought as an extension to the FIS mail list - open

Re: [Fis] Krassimir's Notes . . .

2015-06-19 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
Dear Howard and FIS colleagues, Many thanks for your exciting comments; dealing first with Koichiro's intriguing point on action and probabilities, I think it links with the Quantum Bayesianism we discused last year in the list (von Baeyer's FIS New Year Lecture), and also with Karl

Re: [Fis] It from Bit redux . . . MODERATION

2015-06-15 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
Dear FIS Colleagues, Traditionally the fis list is a place where polite exchange and scholarly style of communication are maintained. We have been in place for almost 20 years, and very rarely we have had any personally disappointing message. Let us keep that way, please. At the time being I

Re: [Fis] Philosophy, Computing, and Information - apologies!

2015-06-12 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
Thanks, Ken. I think your previous message and this one are drawing sort of the border-lines of the discussion. Achieving a comprehensive view on the interrelationship between computation and information is an essential matter. In my opinion, and following the Vienna discussions, whenever life

[Fis] IS4IS Vienna 2015

2015-06-09 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
Dear FIS Colleagues, The IS4IS ( FIS) Conference in Vienna is just over. It has been a nice occasion of sociality, an opportunity to meet in person discussants we were in contact many years ago --more than three or four dozen fis parties were there, including a number of colleges from China.

[Fis] [Fwd: RE: RV: THE FOURTH GREAT DOMAIN OF SCIENCE: INFORMATIONAL? (R.Capurro)]

2015-05-20 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
Original Message Subject: RE: [Fis] RV: THE FOURTH GREAT DOMAIN OF SCIENCE: INFORMATIONAL? (R.Capurro) Date: Tue, 19 May 2015 16:02:53 + From: John Collier colli...@ukzn.ac.za Rafael, Joseph, list members, That is an interesting way of

[Fis] THE FOURTH GREAT DOMAIN OF SCIENCE: INFORMATIONAL?

2015-05-15 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
*A Dialog on the Informational as the 4th Great Domain of Science* *Moisés André Nisenbaum Ken Herold* */PART 1: /**/Informational as the 4th Great Domain of Science/* (Moisés André Nisenbaum) To classify is human (BOWKER STAR 2000). The organization of scientific knowledge is concern of

[Fis] Announcing the New Discussion Session

2015-05-14 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
Dear FIS Colleagues In a few days (or earlier!) we will start a new discussion session: *A DIALOG ON THE INFORMATIONAL --AS THE 4th GREAT DOMAIN OF SCIENCE * It will be chaired by: *Moisés André Nisenbaum* Doutorando IBICT/UFRJ. Professor. Msc. Instituto Federal do Rio de Janeiro - IFRJ Campus

[Fis] New Year Lecture: Aftermath

2015-04-22 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
Dear FIS colleagues, Herewith the comments received from Terry several weeks ago. As I said yesterday, the idea is to properly conclude that session, not to restart the discussion. Of course, scholarly comments are always welcome, but conclusively and not looking for argumentative rounds.

Re: [Fis] New Year Lecture - redux

2015-04-21 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
Thanks Marcus, it is nice to greet to new, interesting parties joining the list. The aftermath message was received some weeks ago --Terry's agenda made him very difficult to continue the discussions of the New Year Lecture, which on the other side was planned for no longer than 4 weeks or so.

Re: [Fis] Chuan's reply8 - THE FRONTIERS OF INTELLIGENCE SCIENCE-- an old poem as an echo

2015-03-23 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
, there is no road - only wakes upon the sea. Amazing image. A beautiful rendering of a self-efficacious relationship between the distinct agent(s) and its(their) surroundings at every scale. Cordially, Josh On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 3:29 AM, Pedro C. Marijuan pcmarijuan.i...@aragon.es

Re: [Fis] Chuan's reply8 - THE FRONTIERS OF INTELLIGENCE SCIENCE-- an old poem as an echo

2015-03-20 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
Dear FISers, Herewith my contribution to the poetic intelligence tangent we have entered. It is in Spanish, from the great poet Antonio Machado: Caminante, son tus huellas el camino y nada más; Caminante, no hay camino, se hace camino al andar. Al andar se hace el camino, y al volver la vista

[Fis] [Fwd: THE FRONTIERS OF INTELLIGENCE SCIENCE--Zhao Chuan]---Jerry Chandler

2015-03-04 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
Message from Jerry Chandler Original Message Subject:[Fis] THE FRONTIERS OF INTELLIGENCE SCIENCE--Zhao Chuan Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2015 21:19:16 -0600 From: Jerry LR Chandler jerry_lr_chand...@mac.com To: pcmarijuan.i...@aragon.es Dear Zhao Chuan: In this brief

Re: [Fis] THE FRONTIERS OF INTELLIGENCE SCIENCE--Zhao Chuan

2015-03-04 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
Dear Chuan and FIS colleagues, The scientific study of intelligence is quite paradoxical. One is reminded about the problems of psychology and ethology to create adequate categories and frameworks about animal and human intelligence. The approaches started in Artificial Intelligence were

[Fis] THE FRONTIERS OF INTELLIGENCE SCIENCE--Zhao Chuan

2015-03-02 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
(Message from *Zhao Chuan*, excerpts from the Preface of her book on Intelligence Science) * THE FRONTIERS OF INTELLIGENCE SCIENCE* * * Intelligence Science is a new science. It is the scientific spirit applied to thought and mental processes and phenomena; it is an emergent

[Fis] ANNOUNCING THE NEXT DISCUSSION

2015-02-24 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
Dear FIS colleagues, In a few days we will start a new discussion session: *THE FRONTIERS OF INTELLIGENCE SCIENCE* * * chaired by: *Zhao Chuan* Intelligence Science Laboratory, School of Information Science and Technology, Chengdu University of Technology --

[Fis] Concluding the Lecture

2015-02-16 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
Dear FIS Colleagues, February is well advanced, and it is time to put a definite end to the New Year Lecture. We have had a very interesting discussion time, though rather silent in these final days. It was nice counting with Terry chairmanship, he has had a very hard work with all those

Re: [Fis] Concluding the Lecture? - In Praise of Teleodynamics

2015-02-04 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
No problem Bob, we can prolong the NY Lecture some extra days. My concern was the overload that these final messages ---more intense and argumentative-- could be causing on Terry's time budget. It is upon him whether he wants to continue responding in the current regime for instance until

[Fis] Concluding the Lecture?

2015-01-30 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
Dear Terry and colleagues, At your convenience, during the first week of February or so we may put an end to the ongoing New Year Lecture --discussants willing to enter their late comments should hurry up. Your own final or concluding comment will be appreciated. Personally, my late comment

Re: [Fis] Beginnings and ends---Steps to a theory of reference significance

2015-01-16 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
Dear Terry and FIS colleagues---and pirates, Just a brief reflection on the below. (From Terry's last message)... So my goal in this case is quite modest, and yet perhaps also a bit foolhardy. I want to suggest a simplest possible model system to use as the basis for formalizing the link

[Fis] [Fwd: Re: Steps to a theory of reference significance] Terry Deacon

2015-01-09 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
Message from Terry Deacon Original Message Subject:Re: [Fis] Steps to a theory of reference significance Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2015 03:32:22 +0100 From: Terrence W. DEACON dea...@berkeley.edu To: Pedro C. Marijuan pcmarijuan.i...@aragon.es References

[Fis] FIS NEW YEAR LECTURE

2015-01-07 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
Dear FIS Colleagues, Following our recently established tradition, for the 2015 FIS New Year Lecture we will count with: * _Terrence W. Deacon_* Professor of Anthropology Cognitive Science Faculty University of California at Berkeley He will impart the Lecture: _*Steps to a Theory of

[Fis] Steps to a theory of reference significance

2015-01-07 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
_*Steps to a theory of reference significance in information *_*FIS discussion paper by Terrence W. Deacon (2015)* This is the link to download the whole paper: https://www.dropbox.com/s/v5o8pwx3ggmmmnb/FIS%20Deacon%20on%20information%20v2.pdf?dl=0 /The mere fact that the same mathematical

[Fis] Xmas New Year

2014-12-19 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
Dear FISers, Best Season Greetings. Following the recent fis tradition, the New Year Lecture in the list will correspond to *Terrence Deacon*, dealing with the theme of *information and the idea of absence*. The thought collective Pirates is also invited --so the session would actually be

Re: [Fis] Information-as-Process

2014-12-12 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
Dear Loet, Steven, and colleagues, During last ten years or so, with particular success in most recent years, Karl Friston has developed his free energy optimization principle, based on Shannon's information theory and optimal control theory as well as on the Bayesian brain hypothesis. I

Re: [Fis] Neuroinformation?

2014-12-05 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
Dear Carolina and FIS colleagues, Many thanks for your questions. They have motivated quite interesting responses--I agree with the very cogent comments raised. Only a few further matters to consider about neuroinformation. First, TOPOLOGY. I think all the mappings, gradients, inversions,

[Fis] The Two Systems

2014-11-11 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
, Pedro C. Marijuan wrote: Dear Marcin and colleagues, Many thanks for the sympathy and for the suggestion. I think your proposal is quite in the spirit of the fis initiative. Maintaining the academic code of conduct should be the First Rule of the list. The Second Rule

[Fis] [Fwd: SV: SV: The Travellers]

2014-10-31 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 20:38:24 +0100 From: Søren Brier sb@cbs.dk To: Pedro C. Marijuan pcmarijuan.i...@aragon.es, fis@listas.unizar.es fis@listas.unizar.es References: 207c3aeedf3347258b028dd5f67f0...@hcc-mbx-2.local.ukzn.ac.za 201410270613.s9r6dbm7004...@ortiz.unizar.es CAEvKwyRr06Wg=fzkk

Re: [Fis] The Travellers

2014-10-29 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
Dear FIS colleagues, Quite interesting exchanges, really. The discussion reminds me the times when behaviorism and ethology were at odds on how to focus the study of human/animal behavior. (Maybe I already talked about that some months ago.) On the one side, a rigorous theory and a strongly

[Fis] The Travellers

2014-10-23 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
Dear FIS colleagues, Regarding the theme of physical information raised by Igor and Joseph, the main problematic aspect of information (meaning) is missing there. One can imagine that as two physical systems interact, each one may be metaphorically attributed with meaning respect the changes

Re: [Fis] Informational Bookkeeping

2014-09-15 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
. But please take all the above speculations cum grano salis, with the customary grain of salt --or spoonful! best --Pedro Pedro C. Marijuan wrote: Dear Koichiro, Nice that you have left your hibernation for a while! I quite agree with your excellent comment. On the one side the bookkeeping

Re: [Fis] Informational Bookkeeping

2014-09-10 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
Dear Koichiro, Nice that you have left your hibernation for a while! I quite agree with your excellent comment. On the one side the bookkeeping of molecules has plenty of tools to ascertain what is happening with each other in an uncorrelated way (state variables, force/mass/ energy, entropy,

[Fis] [Fwd: information.energy] Joseph Brenner

2014-09-09 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
- Original Message - *From:* Joseph Brenner mailto:joe.bren...@bluewin.ch *To:* Stanley N Salthe mailto:ssal...@binghamton.edu ; fis mailto:fis@listas.unizar.es ; Robert Ulanowicz mailto:u...@umces.edu *Sent:* Monday, September 08, 2014 6:01 PM *Subject:* Re: [Fis] information.energy

Re: [Fis] call for vienna 14

2014-07-30 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
/wsf-4/ Now we will run a realy physical conferences in Basel with several thematic symposium. On 24.07.2014 11:47, Pedro C. Marijuan wrote: Dear Wolfgang, Regarding the call for Vienna 2014, I think that the present text forms a consistent unity, and that a slight rewording on the focus

Re: [Fis] FIS in Varna

2014-07-15 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
than worthwile to attend such meetings! I'm sure Plamen would be interested too. best! Pridi - Mail original - De: Pedro C. Marijuan pcmarijuan.i...@aragon.es À: fis@listas.unizar.es Envoyé: Vendredi 11 Juillet 2014 14:41:42 Objet: [Fis] FIS in Varna Dear FISers, The fis summer

[Fis] FIS in Varna

2014-07-11 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
Dear FISers, The fis summer conference in Varna just took place 5-6 July --our 20 years of activities were celebrated too, FIS 20th. Rather unfortunately not many people attended: half dozen from Spain related to Juan Castellanos and me (from Madrid and Zaragoza); and a few parties around

[Fis] Information Science and the City

2014-06-05 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
Dear FISers, Among the many interesting themes where the information science perspective may provide useful orientations, cities are one of the most singular. A recent work by Michel Batty on the New Science of Cities (2013, MIT) makes a lot of connections with our oft discussed info topics.

[Fis] [Fwd: closing the session] John Prpic

2014-04-28 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
Original Message Subject:Re: closing the session Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2014 16:30:44 -0700 From: John Prpic pr...@sfu.ca To: Pedro C. Marijuan pcmarijuan.i...@aragon.es Dear FIS'ers, In an effort to put the latest session formally to bed, please allow me

[Fis] ongoing session

2014-04-04 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
Dear FISers, The computer crash we have had these two weeks in the list, and the nasty consequences of having partially lost the archives, reminds me how ephemeral are these new repositories of knowledge. Reminding the topic of the ongoing session by John Prick, it is a form of collective

[Fis] Computer Crash

2014-04-03 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
IMPORTANT NOTICE: Due to a computer crash in our host server, the FIS list has been paralyzed during last two weeks and all the addresses and mail archives have been lost. We are working at the recovery of that information, but quite probably the mail archives are definitely lost. If needed,

Re: [Fis] COLLECTIVE INTELLIGENCE

2014-03-06 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
Dear John P. and FIS Colleagues, Thanks for the kickoff text. It a discussion on new themes that only occasionally and very superficially has surfaced in this list. Intelligence, the information flow in organizations, distributed knowledge, direct crowd enlistment in scientific activities...

[Fis] Announcing the next Discussion Session

2014-02-25 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
best wishes to all, --Pedro - Pedro C. Marijuan Grupo de Bioinformacion / Bioinformation Group Instituto Aragonés de Ciencias de la Salud Avda. San Juan Bosco 13, 50009 Zaragoza Tfno. +34 976 71 44 76 E-mail. pcmarijuan.i...@aragon.es

[Fis] [Feedforward II and Anticipation] Joseph Brenner

2014-02-12 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
Original Message Subject:Fw: Feedforward II and Anticipation Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2014 12:20:01 +0100 From: Joseph Brenner joe.bren...@bluewin.ch Reply-To: Joseph Brenner joe.bren...@bluewin.ch To: Pedro C. Marijuan pcmarijuan.i...@aragon.es Dear FISers

[Fis] TWO MESSAGES PER WEEK

2014-01-22 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
ONLY TWO MESSAGES PER WEEK ARE ALLOWED IN THE FIS LIST -- - Pedro C. Marijuán Grupo de Bioinformación / Bioinformation Group Instituto Aragonés de Ciencias de la Salud Centro de Investigación Biomédica de Aragón (CIBA) Avda. San Juan Bosco, 13,

Re: [Fis] New Year Lecture Closure

2014-01-20 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
Dear Hans, Dear colleagues, Thanks a lot for the good, generous job done. It has been a pleasure attending to your Lecture and to the discussion it has originated. There are quite many reflections to make and to develop in the future. QBism has general overtones, as was cogently explained,

[Fis] [Fwd: FIS 2014]

2014-01-13 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
Dear FIS Colleagues, The call for papers to ITHEA Conferences is already available: ITA 2014 Summer Session (pdf) http://www.ithea.org/conferences/ITA2014/ITA2014-cfp1.pdf http://www.ithea.org/conferences/ITA2014/ITA2014-cfp1.pdf See FIS information in pp. 1,2, 3... 13, 14 etc. Remember it

Re: [Fis] Fw: Isms Healing the Subject-Object split

2014-01-13 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
Dear Hans colleagues, Thank you for all the exciting comments in the aftermath of the Lecture. It is the ill-fated of me to be unable to pay the due attention to all these fast exchanges... Anyhow, during these days I am keeping a few questions, among them: --Partition Logic. It is an

[Fis] Closing the Session

2013-12-16 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
Dear FIS colleagues, The current session has raised quite a few interesting points, particularly about communication. A new consensus looms... and that means good news for planning future discussions about the topic. However, as someone said all good things should come to an end, the ongoing

[Fis] Nomino-realism and the encoding...; Joseph reply to Jerry]

2013-12-10 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
From Joseph Brenner - Original Message - *From:* Joseph Brenner mailto:joe.bren...@bluewin.ch *To:* Jerry LR Chandler mailto:jerry_lr_chand...@me.com ; fis@listas.unizar.es mailto:fis@listas.unizar.es *Sent:* Monday, December 09, 2013 10:12 AM *Subject:* Re: [Fis] Nomino-realism and

Re: [Fis] The Communication Man

2013-12-04 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
Dear Loet, Bob, Joseph, and FIS colleagues, There is a classical problem in the dialog between natural science and the humanities, also occurring in the present exchanges (maybe in a different way). I may agree or disagree respect the constructs presented by Bob, or my own points, but most of

Re: [Fis] social flow

2013-11-27 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
Dear FISers, In some way we are taking the discussion at the fringe of relevant fields ---communication studies, information systems, semiotics, representation theory, linguistics, etc. If we do not like the way communication is handled in itself, taken disconnected of the advancement of the

Re: [Fis] FIS News

2013-11-07 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
languages are welcome and encouraged. Karl 2013/11/4 Pedro C. Marijuan pcmarijuan.i...@aragon.es mailto:pcmarijuan.i...@aragon.es Dear FIS colleages, Some new people from the Xian conference have joined our list --welcome to all of them. Before coming back to the ongoing

[Fis] FIS News

2013-11-04 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
Dear FIS colleages, Some new people from the Xian conference have joined our list --welcome to all of them. Before coming back to the ongoing discussion, let me briefly refer to ongoing changes in FIS organization. The _scientific committee_ will be enlarged to incorporate new trends, a

[Fis] News from Xian

2013-10-25 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
Dear FIS colleagues, The First Conference on Philosophy of Information has just taken place in Xian; and indeed it has been quite an exciting and useful experience. Congratulations to the leading organizer: Wu Kun, and to his excellent team of collaborators. Several FIS and ISIS parties could

Re: [Fis] THE SOCIOTYPE: SOCIAL RELATIONSHIPS AND BEYOND

2013-10-01 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
Dear Raquel and FIS colleagues, Thanks a lot for the opening text. My impression is that this topic is situated in a no-man's-land and although it can be connected from a variety of points of view all of them become too incomplete and unsatisfying. Our sociality is like water for the fish...

Re: [Fis] FIS new course (From Steven E.)

2013-09-16 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
From: Steven Ericsson-Zenith ste...@iase.us Subject: Re: [Fis] FIS new course Foundations of Information Science Information Science fis@listas.unizar.es Common language is limiting and heavily overloaded. Even when clarified = or refined it does not enable the characterization of difficult =

[Fis] [Fwd: Fw: [bisc-group] The Curse of Efficiency]

2013-07-08 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
I think this might be of interest for FISers too. ---P. Original Message Subject:Fw: [bisc-group] The Curse of Efficiency Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2013 09:45:41 +0800 From: 赵川 zh...@cdut.edu.cn To: Pedro C. Marijuan pcmarijuan.i...@aragon.es, Joseph Brenner joe.bren

[Fis] [Fwd: Fw: [bisc-group] The Curse of Efficiency]

2013-07-08 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
I think this might be of interest for FISers too. ---P. Original Message Subject:Fw: [bisc-group] The Curse of Efficiency Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2013 09:45:41 +0800 From: 赵川 zh...@cdut.edu.cn To: Pedro C. Marijuan pcmarijuan.i...@aragon.es, Joseph Brenner joe.bren

Re: [Fis] News from Moscow

2013-05-29 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
Dear FIS colleagues, In response to Julio's comment, a couple of brief points. First, it was not exactly a private party, as in the past conference in Beijing it was officially approved the realization of FIS 2012 (or 21013) in Moscow; actually three organizers of past fis events were in the

[Fis] News from Moscow

2013-05-27 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
Dear FISers, During the past days, 21 -24 May, the 5th FIS 1st ISIS conference has taken place in Moscow. As expected, very few people from Western countries could attend (just 4), but an important Chinese delegation (9) and a remarkable presence of the Russian Academy of sciences, research

[Fis] [Fwd: TR: Supertasks and Information]--J.Brenner

2013-05-10 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
Message d'origine De: joe.bren...@bluewin.ch Date: 08.05.2013 03:19 À: fis@listas.unizar.es Objet: Supertasks and Information One of the tasks of the FIS initiative could be to criticize notions of information that are at best misleading. Such a notion has

[Fis] [Fwd: Information Revolution/ What next?] happy Youth Day]

2013-05-06 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
(exchange between Zhao Chuan and Vladimir) -- Dear colleagues Thanks for attention to the Song of Internet, where key words are, of course, human unity. There are problems of mutual understanding and information flows in

[Fis] [Fwd: Information Revolution/ What next?]

2013-05-03 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
Sorry, the previous format was not OK, I am re-sending the message ---P. Original Message Subject:Fwd: Information Revolution/ What next? Date: Thu, 02 May 2013 10:33:53 +0400 From: vann1936 vann1...@gmail.com To: Marijuan Pedro C. pcmarijuan.i...@aragon.es

[Fis] [Fwd: information between living and nonliving circle]

2013-04-15 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
Original Message Subject:information between living and nonliving circle Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 17:24:37 +0800 From: Xueshan Yan y...@pku.edu.cn Reply-To: y...@pku.edu.cn Organization: CHINAPKU To: Pedro C. Marijuán pcmarijuan.i...@aragon.es CC:

[Fis] FIS News (Moscow 2013)

2013-04-12 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
Dear FIS Friends, Apologies for my long silence. As I have already said several times, my science management duties are killing not only my time but also my nerve (well, not completely!). Imagine what is happening with the financing and organization of Spanish science these years... Anyhow, a

[Fis] [Fwd: rejected message] Dino Buzzetti

2013-02-13 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
-- Messaggio inoltrato -- From: Dino Buzzetti dino.buzze...@gmail.com mailto:dino.buzze...@gmail.com To: fis fis@listas.unizar.es mailto:fis@listas.unizar.es Cc: Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 00:37:44 +0100 Subject: Fwd: [Fis] [Fwd: SV: Science, Philosophy and Information. An

[Fis] [Fwd: SV: Science, Philosophy and Information. An Alternative Relation] S.Brier

2013-02-11 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
Original Message Subject:SV: [Fis] Science, Philosophy and Information. An Alternative Relation Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2013 20:32:04 +0100 From: Søren Brier sb@cbs.dk To: joe.bren...@bluewin.ch joe.bren...@bluewin.ch, Pedro Clemente Marijuan Fernandez

[Fis] [Fwd: Step Ten of Twelve Easy Steps] karl.javorszky

2013-02-04 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
Original Message Subject:[Fis] Step Ten of Twelve Easy Steps Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 13:54:14 +0530 From: Karl Javorszky karl.javors...@gmail.com Reply-To: karl.javors...@gmail.com To: Pedro C. Marijuan pcmarijuan.i...@aragon.es CC: fis fis

[Fis] [Fwd: Step Nine of Twelwe Easy Steps]

2013-01-24 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
Original Message Subject:[Fis] Step Nine of Twelwe Easy Steps Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2013 13:17:34 +0100 From: Karl Javorszky karl.javors...@gmail.com Reply-To: karl.javors...@gmail.com To: Pedro C. Marijuan pcmarijuan.i...@aragon.es, fis fis@listas.unizar.es

Re: [Fis] [Fwd: Fw: dark matter]--J.Collier

2013-01-08 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
Message from John Collier Original Message Subject:Re: [Fis] [Fwd: Fw: dark matter]--J.Brenner Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2013 16:12:54 +0200 From: John Collier colli...@ukzn.ac.za To: Pedro C. Marijuan pcmarijuan.i...@aragon.es Dear folks, I agree

[Fis] [Fwd: Fw: dark matter]--J.Brenner

2013-01-03 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
*From:* Joseph Brenner mailto:joe.bren...@bluewin.ch *To:* Stanley N Salthe mailto:ssal...@binghamton.edu ; fis mailto:fis@listas.unizar.es *Sent:* Sunday, December 30, 2012 6:22 PM *Subject:* Re: [Fis] dark matter Dear Stan, Gordana, John, Bruno, Bob U., Yuri and All, I think we have all

[Fis] [Fwd: The Information Flow] From Bob Ulanowiccz

2012-11-15 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
Original Message Subject:The Information Flow Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 14:35:49 -0500 From: Robert Ulanowicz u...@umces.edu To: CC: Dear Bruno, Gordana and friends, At the risk of over-using my FIS privileges, please allow me a few remarks on the

Re: [Fis] The Information Flow

2012-11-02 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
FIS friends, It is too big a challenge to respond to Joseph's and Bill's points. While thinking about their points (in slow thought mode) I will just make a couple of complementary remarks. First, following Gould's arguments on replaying life's tape, what would happen if we could replay the

[Fis] FW: The Information Flow (From John Collier)

2012-10-22 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
*From:* John Collier *Sent:* 21 October 2012 11:22 PM *To:* fis *Subject:* Re: [Fis] The Information Flow At 06:14 PM 2012/10/21, Stanley N Salthe wrote: Pedro -- it is of interest to me that On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 3:38 PM, PEDRO CLEMENTE MARIJUAN FERNANDEZ pcmarijuan.i...@aragon.es wrote:

Re: [Fis] The Information Flow (From Bob Ulanowicz)

2012-10-16 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
(From Bob Ulanowicz) * Dear Pedro, I am not familiar with either model. I am made uneasy, however, by the deterministic nature of the model descriptions. My concern is that networks in general are metaphors for the amalgamation of

[Fis] The Information Flow

2012-10-15 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
Dear FIS Colleagues, Thanks to Zhao Chuan for the Computer Poem/Song. It is a soft way to retake our discussions. These weeks there have been a couple of important achievements in the bio-information field. On the one side, the first 'complete' model of a prokaryotic cell (A Whole-Cell

[Fis] [Fwd: help needed] From K.Javorszky

2012-10-11 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
Original Message Subject:help needed Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 11:34:46 +0200 From: Karl Javorszky karl.javors...@gmail.com Dear FISers I am looking for a collaborator to finish up a website. Requirements: * good in 3D drawing * able to handle

[Fis] Thinking Art --Zhao Chuan

2012-07-13 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
(letter from Zhao Chuan) Dear Pedro, dear Krassimir, dear Beth, Ted, Capurro, Yixin, and dear all FIS Colleagues, I am Zhao Chuan, Do you remember I have send a mail to Dear Krassimir and FIS Colleagues February 16-20, 2011? And received

Re: [Fis] Aspects of the Logical Philosophy of Information

2012-07-06 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
missed this first time around. On 2012/06/22 at 02:29 PM, in message 4fe46543.6050...@aragon.es, Pedro C. Marijuan pcmarijuan.i...@aragon.es wrote: The concept of form can hardly been maintained along the complexification of information realms... Sorry Pedro, I have to disgree with this. For me

Re: [Fis] Aspects of the Logical Philosophy of Information

2012-06-22 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
Dear FIS colleagues, The point below is quite interesting. In what extent is physical information a well-established concept, or maybe a new disciplinary branch in the making? And what happens with chemical information thus? And biological information? And all the others--neuronal

[Fis] Absence and life

2012-05-18 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
Dear FIS colleagues, Thanks to the late discussants; particularly it was a pleasure reading the elegant comments on cosmic computation by Bob (Logan). There was also a previous message on info and absences by Bob (Ulanowicz) that should be discussed at length. About Terry's book, now I have

Re: [Fis] POSTS ON TERRY' S BOOK - PRESENTED BY DEACON

2012-05-04 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
- From: fis-boun...@listas.unizar.es [mailto:fis-boun...@listas.unizar.es] On Behalf Of Hector Zenil Sent: den 27 april 2012 22:40 To: Pedro C. Marijuan Cc: fis@listas.unizar.es Subject: Re: [Fis] POSTS ON TERRY' S BOOK Could someone summarize why Terrence Deacon's book is such a presumed

[Fis] POSTS ON TERRY' S BOOK

2012-04-28 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
Dear colleagues, Krassimir Markov's suggestion is excellent. Next year we could have a FIS conference in his place, centered in the exploration of the new info avenue drafted by Terrence Deacon's book, and started by Stuart Kauffman and others. Previously my suggestion is that we have a

Re: [Fis] Physics of computing

2012-04-16 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
: +27 (31) 260 3031 email: colli...@ukzn.ac.za mailto:colli...@ukzn.ac.za On 2012/03/16 at 01:19 PM, in message 4f6321c3.5000...@aragon.es, Pedro C. Marijuan pcmarijuan.i...@aragon.es wrote: Dear discussants, I tend to disagree with the motto information is physical if taken

Re: [Fis] Physics of computing

2012-04-11 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
email: colli...@ukzn.ac.za mailto:colli...@ukzn.ac.za On 2012/03/16 at 01:19 PM, in message 4f6321c3.5000...@aragon.es, Pedro C. Marijuan pcmarijuan.i...@aragon.es wrote: Dear discussants, I tend to disagree with the motto information is physical if taken too strictly. Obviously if we look

Re: [Fis] Physics of computing

2012-03-16 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
Dear discussants, I tend to disagree with the motto information is physical if taken too strictly. Obviously if we look downwards it is OK, but in the upward direction it is different. Info is not only physical then, and the dimension of self-construction along the realization of life cycle

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