OK. After all the chatter and speculation on the price
of Flex changing on April 1st, did it ever really happen? I've been on vacation
and upon returning I have not been able to find any official announcement on
MM's site. Has pricing changed? Can some one point me to definitive
proof?
Just call MM and try to order. That's all the proof you need.My MMcontact did confirm to me the day before that it was indeed going up.
-- Matthew
On Apr 7, 2005 11:43 AM, Kristopher Schultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
OK. After all the chatter and speculation on the price of Flex changing on
That's hardly giving Kris any more information than he already knew ;-)
Here's a (hopefully) more helpful response.
Lucian Beebe posted to the list a week or two back explaining the
details of the new pricing. You can view his post here:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/message/12200
That's true, but my point was that he might want to just go right to the source since its really easy to just pick up the phone and call. Lucian also stated that there was pricing based on 'interview' or 'discussion'. So again, its most likely best just to call MM.
M.
On Apr 7, 2005 12:13 PM,
oh, ok.
I guess I just didn't pick up on what you meant.
I'd agree that calling MM would be a good idea if you really want to
explore pricing options, but the post by Lucian is pretty detailed, so I
thought it was worth posting.
Spike
Matthew Shirey wrote:
That's true, but my point was
On Mar 31, 2005 10:30 PM, Darron J. Schall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
* The internals are abstracted away. Right now your Lazslo code
publishes to .swf, but it's not tied to the Flash Player in any way -
there are no MovieClip references, etc in your lazslo code.
There are no MovieClip
On Apr 1, 2005 7:57 AM, Tarik Ahmed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So to compensate for this, MM has been providing a lot of developer support
for free in this forum - that's a huge cost when you have premium developer
time spent doing a ton of emails.
MM engineers from different parts of the
PS: We want Flex to kick ass. More.
Amen.
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Agreed with JesterXL, go to the Monster.com and see some bites, really good.
But We can't really close our eyes to the price as mentioned bellow is
a price of lexus,but So, why do you go to by the car? simple no?
In my opinion Flex is really a good way to develop quikly applications but the
Actually, i mentioned this on the weekend to some soon-to-be FLEX
converts, the new price model will be cheaper for us lol..
As we bought FLEX pre-Price hike, @ $15k (AUD) (2CPU)
Now thats great, but if we have servers that are DUAL CPU (which is
common pract in most comps) we'll need a dev
Perhaps Macromedia are planning a version of Flex that will allow the
programmer to use MXML/Actionscript to generate an SWF, without the whole Flex
Server Side Application (sorry - Flex Enterprise Server!)
I
imagine that the price for this would still be more than Flash MX 2004 Pro say
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Sent: 01 April 2005 07:30 PM
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Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5
price
Perhaps Macromedia are planning a version
of Flex that will allow the programmer to use MXML/Actionscript to generate an
SWF, without the whole Flex Server Side Application (sorry - Flex
Good
point Robert.
Regards,
Simon
-Original Message-From: Robert Stuttaford
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 01 April 2005
18:46To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE:
[flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price
Simon,
It is possible,
currently, to use Flex with FlashORB
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From: Simon Fifield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 31 March 2005 20:49
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price
My clients have also stretched themselves to purchase the 2cpu license,
which cost more than the Dual Processor server they purchased to match
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AM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5
price
Good point Robert.
Regards,
Simon
-Original Message-
From: Robert Stuttaford
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 01 April 2005 18
Matt Horn wrote:
An old dutch saying : Prices can only go down... Laszo/BackBase
time??
Was this before or after the tulip craze? :)
You can make a joke off this but i think that raising the price for your
licenses more than 100% is not the smartest thing to do! It can be
actually
4CPU? Why on earth would someone like to use that on precompiled stuff?
Regards,
Sjors Pals
Michel Jansen wrote:
Matt Horn wrote:
An old dutch saying : Prices can only go down... Laszo/BackBase
time??
Was this before or after the tulip craze? :)
You can make a joke off this but
Lucian,
"4 CPUs and Gold Support for $29,000. That's actually cheaperthan Flex was in the past for 4 CPUs + Gold Support."
It's like going to the car dealer ship and the guytells me that the Lexus SUVis the onlynewbase model...but don't worry...that it's still cheaper than buying2 Lexus
I've got a question concerning maintenance, maybe someone from MM can comment:
we bought Flex 1.5 two months ago. When our maintenance period ends and we
decide to extend the maintenance will the price for the new maintenance be
based on the original price (12k) or the product's price at that
to see how many
people actually have purchased Flex and are using it with Gusto I bet
it is not as widespread as its made out to be.
From: Valy Sivec
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 31 March 2005 15:33
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5
price
it with Gusto I bet it is not as widespread as its made
out to be.
--
From: Valy Sivec [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 31 March 2005 15:33
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price
Lucian,
4 CPUs and Gold Support for $29,000. That's actually cheaper
: jeudi 31 mars 2005 16:18
À : flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Objet : Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price
4CPU? Why on earth would someone like to use that on precompiled stuff?
Regards,
Sjors Pals
Michel Jansen wrote:
Matt Horn wrote:
An old dutch saying : Prices can only go down... Laszo/BackBase
for it but the cost is seriously hampering the sales...
-Original Message-
From: jeff tapper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 31 March 2005 16:17
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price
Seems to me like you misunderstand the principles of supply and
demand. One
@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 6:59 AM
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price - A Real Example of a Nearly Lost
Sale
I've got a question concerning maintenance, maybe someone from MM can
comment:
we bought Flex 1.5 two months ago. When our maintenance period ends and we
decide
@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price
Lucian,
"4 CPUs and Gold Support for $29,000. That's actually cheaperthan Flex was in the past for 4 CPUs + Gold Support."
It's like going to the car dealer ship and the guytells me that the Lexus SUVis the onlynewbase model...but d
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price - A Real Example of a Nearly Lost
Sale
I've got a question concerning maintenance, maybe someone from MM can
comment:
we bought Flex 1.5 two months ago. When our maintenance period ends and we
decide to extend the maintenance will the price for the new
@yahoogroups.com
Objet : Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price
4CPU? Why on earth would someone like to use that on precompiled stuff?
Regards,
Sjors Pals
Michel Jansen wrote:
Matt Horn wrote:
An old dutch saying : Prices can only go down... Laszo/BackBase
time??
Was this before
Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 7:15 AM
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price
We've seen a fair number of people prototyping with Flex but few deploying
'real' applications. The price increases and limitations e.g
://www.flexauthority.com
- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 7:15 AM
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price
We've seen a fair number of people prototyping with Flex but few
deploying
'real' applications
Jeff Steiner wrote:
Lazslo, while the samples look great, is still based upon Flash player 5
(Beta 3 of Lazslo is player 6). It is one of those things where you have to
wonder - how does Lazslo know what to extend of the Flash Player. The
people that are contributing to it make guesses and try
What about a 2cpu license? Please answer. Your 'starter kit' is
overkill for us. If our price is based on a minimum 4cpu price, then
this is no longer a joke at all. We will have to drop Flex and never
look back. We will have wasted months of training and actual
development time. This is
, 2005 8:26 AM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price
My guess is that you will be back.
Lazslo, while the samples look great, is still based upon Flash player 5
(Beta 3 of Lazslo is player 6). It is one of those things where you have to
wonder - how does Lazslo
Message-
From: Anthony Merryfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 10:35 AM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price
Here come the Black Helicopters.
:)
-Original Message-
From: Gordon Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 31 March
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Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 9:17 AM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price
What about a 2cpu license? Please answer. Your 'starter kit' is
overkill for us. If our price is based on a minimum 4cpu price, then
this is no longer a joke at all. We
damn.
either this is too good for an april fools joke,
or as russel peters said,
somebody gonna get-a-hurt real bad
:)
pushkar
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As I already said this is no joke to me or my department.
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On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 14:43:38 -0500, Pushkar Phatak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
damn.
either this is too good for an april fools joke,
or as russel peters said,
somebody gonna get-a-hurt real bad
:)
pushkar
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My
clients have also stretched themselves to purchase the 2cpu license, which cost
more than theDual Processor server they purchased to match the
spec.
Now
that the license for Flex is either 1 or 4 cpu does this mean that my clients
are going to have to more than double the original
this work out.
Lucian
From: Simon Fifield
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005
11:49 AM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5
price
My clients have also stretched themselves
to purchase the 2cpu license, which cost more than theDual
talk directly and find a way to make this work out.
Lucian
From: Simon Fifield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 11:49 AM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price
My clients have
it for me to work
with.
Kind
Regards,
Simon
Fifield
-Original Message-From: Lucian Beebe
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 31 March 2005
21:17To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE:
[flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price
Maintenance will be
calculated based on the CPUs
-Original Message-
From: Matthew Shirey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 12:27 PM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price
I am more than a little frustrated about this... why don't we discuss
it right here publically?
Why
: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price - A Real Example of a Nearly Lost
Sale
I've got a question concerning maintenance, maybe someone from MM can
comment:
we bought Flex 1.5 two months ago. When our maintenance period ends and we
decide to extend the maintenance will the price for the new
Ya apparently I need to be sending out my resume to companies that can
afford this stuff! :)
Scott Barnes wrote:
On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 09:02:32 +0200, Michel Jansen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
An old dutch saying : Prices can only go down... Laszo/BackBase time??
heh
many
opportunities).
Flex was already very difficult to sell based on its old price.
Strange... I don't understand...
Ben
-Message d'origine-
De : Sjors Pals [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Envoyé : jeudi 31 mars 2005 16:18
À : flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Objet : Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price
Sivec [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 31 March 2005 15:33
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price
Lucian,
"4 CPUs and Gold Support for $29,000. That's actually cheaper
than Flex was in the past for 4 CPUs + Gold Support."
It's like going to the car d
ubject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price
Lucian Beebe wrote:
Finally, to the question of whether Flex is selling or not. The economists
on this list have it right. We are selling Flex in great numbers.
Thanx for the compliment. Although i am no economist, i'm not stupid.
Just lik
a few months
for 1 person!
- Original Message -
From: Tarik Ahmed [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 9:27 PM
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price
Financially, obviously they ran their cost/market/etc analysis and came
up with those
has bought it for me to work with.
Kind
Regards,
Simon
Fifield
-Original
Message-From: Lucian
Beebe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 31 March 2005 21:17To:
flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5
price
Maintenance will be
calculated based
Do you
have upgrade prices for Flex 1.5 Users?
-Original Message-From: Lucian Beebe
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 30 March 2005
23:51To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE:
[flexcoders] Flex 1.5 priceThere has been a lot of
speculation about price changes for Flex.
Since all Flex 1.5 customers are on a
maintenance program, upgrades come for free.
Lucian
From: Simon Fifield
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005
3:14 PM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5
price
Do you have
There has been a lot of speculation about price changes for Flex. Let's set
the record straight. As of April 1, we are adjusting the price of Flex.
There are now three different packages for Flex going forward. For most
people, the starter kit will provide everything you need for your Flex
An old dutch saying : Prices can only go down... Laszo/BackBase time??
Lucian Beebe wrote:
There has been a lot of speculation about price changes for Flex.
Let's set
the record straight. As of April 1, we are adjusting the price of Flex.
There are now three different packages for Flex
hi there,
latest news from macromedia sales directly :
on 1st april the price will rise.
eur 15K / CPU
but there will be a 4 CPU license for round about eur 28K
both packages contain 5 flex builder licenses...
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-Original Message-
From: christoph larch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 29 March 2005 01:25 PM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price
hi there,
latest news from macromedia sales directly :
on 1st april the price will rise.
eur 15K / CPU
larch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 29 March 2005 01:25 PM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price
hi there,
latest news from macromedia sales directly :
on 1st april the price will rise.
eur 15K / CPU
but there will be a 4 CPU license for round about eur 28K
@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 10:04 AM
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price
When Flex came out, the joke went around that its price was a rounding error
for Java folk. I suspect the Euro price is just rounded up to make the maths
easier.
Meanwhile is anyone involved in this beta who feels
http://www.woofquackmoo.com
- Original Message -
From: JesterXL [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 4:06 PM
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price
What parts of mobile? Flash Lite works on many mobile devices, and you
can
work on it right now
: 11,162
Has this something to do with export taxes or something?
Regards,
Sjors Pals
Robert Stuttaford wrote:
url?
-Original Message-
From: christoph larch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 29 March 2005 01:25 PM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price
After the dot bomb companies began to scrutinize their I.T spending much
more closely. You have to do your due diligence and make sure you're
selecting the right technology, and part of the criteria is price. I've
seen a lot of enterprises go with the second best option (features wise)
And all of this back-n-forth on a rumour, and one regarding something
happening on April the FIRST!
One thing to remember: MM made Flex for the big Enterprise-level companies.
Granted, it's useful to everyone, not just these companies. I guess MM won't
mind being blamed for making such awesome
Title:
Could you provide a link to the press
release? J
From: ??
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 25 March 2005 01:54 PM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5
price
I
heard bad news today.
Macromedia
willchange Flex 1.5 price $12,000(2cpu)
shhh.. its not suppoed to be widely known as yet ;)
it could be an april fool mind you ;)
On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:01:00 +0200, Robert Stuttaford
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Could you provide a link to the press release? J
From: ??
Title:
Ohh lord its that time again
I started freelancing on April 1 2004 my
boss thought I was trying to pull his leg!
I guess that means its champagne time for
me soon
From: ??
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 25 March 2005 01:54 PM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 13:44:26 +0100 (CET), Duccio Del Ministro
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi all,
i have another question: why flex pricing starts at
$12,000 USD and in euro 14,400 (18,671.84 US Dollar
taken from
http://www.macromedia.com/software/flex/buy/)
VAT?
Regards,
Dave.
I think that VAT has nothing to do with the tag price For each country the VAT is different and will add to the tag price... Maybe for non-US markets the costs to sell/support this product is a little bit higher andit's reflected in the final price
Dave Carabetta [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Maybe you don't know that $ 12,000 today are about
9,264.97 euro. That mean about 55% increase. I am sure
there is a reason, maybe the costs for the support...
Regards
Duccio
--- Valy Sivec [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think that VAT has nothing to do with the tag
price For each country the
Our shop cannot hardly pull the current price... If it goes up I don't
know what it will mean for us, but I doubt its good. We're in love
with flex, but we may have to give it up if they raise the price on it
like that.
-- Matthew
On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:25:38 +0200, Robert Stuttaford
[EMAIL
Sounds like laszlo time :)
-Original Message-
From: Matthew Shirey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 08:32:45
To:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price
Our shop cannot hardly pull the current price... If it goes up I don't
know what it will mean
I totally agree.
Regards
Duccio
- Original Message -
From: Dennis Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 5:36 PM
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price
Sounds like laszlo time :)
-Original Message-
From: Matthew Shirey [EMAIL
: Kristopher Schultz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 12:06:39
To:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price
Come on, Yang Lim. You can't just post a message like that and not tell us the
source of the information. That's how rumors proliferate! If there isn't
2005 08:32:45
To:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price
Our shop cannot hardly pull the current price... If it goes up I don't
know what it will mean for us, but I doubt its good. We're in love
with flex, but we may have to give it up if they raise the price
With Lazlo around price for Flex should go down or MM looses the ground to
OpenSource.
-Original Message-
From: Thijs Triemstra | Collab [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 9:39 AM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price
Laszlo
om 17:36 heeft Dennis Jackson het volgende geschreven:
Sounds like laszlo time :)
-Original Message-
From: Matthew Shirey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 08:32:45
To:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price
Our shop cannot hardly pull
I heard that Macromedia decided that they wee going to move Flex over to
Apache to be released as an Open Source Project.
;-)
-Original Message-
From: Jeff Steiner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 25 March 2005 17:21
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price
!!!
Thijs
Op 25-mrt-05 om 17:36 heeft Dennis Jackson het volgende geschreven:
Sounds like laszlo time :)
-Original Message-
From: Matthew Shirey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 08:32:45
To:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price
!!!
Thijs
Op 25-mrt-05 om 17:36 heeft Dennis Jackson het volgende geschreven:
Sounds like laszlo time :)
-Original Message-
From: Matthew Shirey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 08:32:45
To:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price
Our shop cannot
hehhehe funny, how we all suddnely commence a mass exodus.
I won't comment on the price whether its rumour or not, but what I
will comment is why I think either way it won't make that much of a
difference (well its totally not my own opinion)
At present in my company FLEX price tag was never a
)
An increase from 12 to 20 would make those decisions easier in a lot of ways.
-Original Message-
From: Scott Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 10:47:32
To:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price
hehhehe funny, how we all suddnely commence a mass exodus
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