Re: [Flightgear-devel] 2004 Linux User Developer Expo

2004-04-24 Thread Jon Stockill
On Sat, 24 Apr 2004, Al West wrote: Did you get a contact at IBM? I'm sure they'd be happy to lend/donate a Workstation for development purposes. I can see it will be very likely that I didn't unfortunately - it was just a quick question from a girl in their high performance division, who was

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Questions about flight model

2004-04-24 Thread Hermann Schiffer
The Merlin is a rotary engine, isn't it? A rotary engine ? As in http://travel.howstuffworks.com/rotary-engine.htm ? Most people probably will agree that it's a V-12 piston engine ;-) Details about the engine oil pressure might be documented in some sort of engine manual:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] MD-11

2004-04-24 Thread Innis Cunningham
Hi Guys I had a play with this last night by using the 737 FDM on the 747 and hacking it around to see what would happen and everything worked ok till the CofG got over 850 X units(what do the units represent inches feet ??), or the MLG was moved back past 850 X units.I also noticed if the CofG

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Web, tables, and image layout

2004-04-24 Thread Jim Wilson
Hmmm...yeah that's a well known issue. I'm not sure if that is a feature or a bug, but it is a common behavior. Also, doctype issues can affect this sort of thing because of the way browsers handle nonstandard rendering modes (which is of course non-standard). Check this out:

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Web, tables, and image layout

2004-04-24 Thread Jon Berndt
Check this out: http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jsbsim.org You will want to decide what your target doctype really is and correct this before calling the problem solved. Interesting. This is helpful. Jon ___

[Flightgear-devel] FlightGear crash since last CVS update

2004-04-24 Thread Avi Levy
Hello, Since my last CVS update of simgear and flightgear two weeks ago, I get the following runtime error after a succesfull compile. Unhandled exception at 0x0063ae54 in FlightGear.exe: 0xC005: Access violation reading location 0x. The debugger traces it back to the piece of code

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear crash since last CVS update

2004-04-24 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Avi Levy wrote: Hello, Since my last CVS update of simgear and flightgear two weeks ago, I get the following runtime error after a succesfull compile. Update again. 2 weeks ago is way outdated. When reporting a problem with CVS, try to update before to see if it has been fixed. I don't have

[Flightgear-devel] OpenAL

2004-04-24 Thread Curtis L. Olson
I just wanted to warn people that last night I got OpenAL working here inside FG. I have a couple comments. 1. I redid the lower level sound sample and sound manager interfaces a bit to clean things up and simplify things. I'm not sure it's worth going back and getting this new interface

[Flightgear-devel] FlightGear performance

2004-04-24 Thread Jon Berndt
I just did a bit of a performance test with FlightGear on my PC running Windows 2000, 1.2GHz Athlon, 256 MB RAB, and 64MB GeForce 2MX400. I did a reboot first, made sure I had no extraneous processes running, and cranked up FlightGear under CygWin (My desktop is 32 bit, 1024x768). FlightGear

[Flightgear-devel] Menu: set airport from list - core

2004-04-24 Thread Jon Berndt
I selected the Location menu item that allows selection of an airport from a list. When I selected the menu item I got a segfault. I had just taken off in the c172, paused the sim, and made the menu selection. I did a make on flightgear this morning. Jon

Re: [Flightgear-devel] MD-11

2004-04-24 Thread Innis Cunningham
Hi Erik Erik Hofman writes Innis Cunningham wrote: Also the further back you put the CofG the higher off the ground the A/C seems to start. This almost sounds like and axis mismatch. Is the gear located in the structural frame or in the body frame? I am not sure what you mean.The gear is

Re: [Flightgear-devel] OpenAL

2004-04-24 Thread Andy Ross
Curtis L. Olson wrote: 3. The maximum pitch factor that OpenAL allows is 2.0 ... we blow by that with some of our sound configs ... that's another thing that will need to be tweaked and looked at. We can do the down-sampling manually and choose the right one at runtime; basically

Re: [Flightgear-devel] OpenAL

2004-04-24 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Andy Ross wrote: Curtis L. Olson wrote: 3. The maximum pitch factor that OpenAL allows is 2.0 ... we blow by that with some of our sound configs ... that's another thing that will need to be tweaked and looked at. We can do the down-sampling manually and choose the right one at

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Questions about flight model

2004-04-24 Thread Andy Ross
Hermann Schiffer wrote: The Merlin is a rotary engine, isn't it? A rotary engine ? As in http://travel.howstuffworks.com/rotary-engine.htm ? He meant radial, of course, which was true of most WWII era aircraft engines other than the Merlin. And if you really want to nit, what you describe is

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Menu: set airport from list - core

2004-04-24 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Jon Berndt wrote: I selected the Location menu item that allows selection of an airport from a list. When I selected the menu item I got a segfault. I had just taken off in the c172, paused the sim, and made the menu selection. I did a make on flightgear this morning. I just sent a fix to

[Flightgear-devel] [OT] Modeling and Control of a UAV

2004-04-24 Thread Jon Berndt
Interesting read (look carefully) :-) http://www.itk.ntnu.no/ansatte/Fossen_Thor/MSc/AndrewRoss.pdf Jon ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel

[Flightgear-devel] Multiplayer

2004-04-24 Thread Chris Horler
Gents, Has anyone tried multiplayer? I haven't, but wondered if any representation of other a/c was in the property tree? Thanks, Chris. ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Flightgear-devel] Jsbsim trim

2004-04-24 Thread Chris Horler
Jon Anyone else interested. I reset the c172 default start up a/c (reset or not this happens). I reset then put parking brake on. Leave it for 5 mins and then notice it's yawed slightly to port. Chris. ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL

Re: [Flightgear-devel] OpenAL

2004-04-24 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
Wouldn't it be possible to record an engine sound at low RPM and change the pitch using codes? Regards, Ampere On April 24, 2004 11:54 am, Curtis L. Olson wrote: One thing that I've always wanted to do is set things up so we can sample then engine at different rpm's and then have the system

[Flightgear-devel] OpenAL update

2004-04-24 Thread Curtis L. Olson
I am going to commit my OpenAL changes to SimGear and FlightGear this afternoon. I haven't seen even one negative comment on OpenAL since I first brought this topic up several days ago ... so hopefully everyone is on board with this change. I need help though from the Mac people and

Re: [Flightgear-devel] OpenAL

2004-04-24 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Ampere K. Hardraade wrote: Wouldn't it be possible to record an engine sound at low RPM and change the pitch using codes? Sure, and that works ok, but I bet if you record the engine at different rpms you will discover that doubling the pitch of a sample recorded at 1000 rpm will not sound

RE: [Flightgear-devel] OpenAL update

2004-04-24 Thread Jon Berndt
I need help though from the Mac people and cygwin/mingwin people. What are the openal libraries called on these platforms. At the moment the I didn't see a CygWin platform listed for OpenAL on their web site (openal.org). I also didn't see mention of Cygwin here:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Jsbsim trim

2004-04-24 Thread Durk Talsma
I've seen this as well, but as far as I can tell, this is due to the wind blowing against the tail. I've seen this more stronger with heavy winds, and the yawing of the aircraft in heavy winds appears to change with changing rudder position, as I expected. Cheers, Durk On Saturday 24 April

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Jsbsim trim

2004-04-24 Thread Andy Ross
Durk Talsma wrote: I've seen this as well, but as far as I can tell, this is due to the wind blowing against the tail. I've seen this more stronger with heavy winds, and the yawing of the aircraft in heavy winds appears to change with changing rudder position, as I expected. It's a misfeature

Re: [Flightgear-devel] OpenAL update

2004-04-24 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Curtis L. Olson wrote: I am going to commit my OpenAL changes to SimGear and FlightGear this afternoon. I haven't seen even one negative comment on OpenAL since I first brought this topic up several days ago ... so hopefully everyone is on board with this change. I need help though

Re: [Flightgear-devel] OpenAL update

2004-04-24 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Frederic Bouvier wrote: I updated and compiled FG with OpenAL flawlessly. Before I downloaded the Creative SDK for OpenAL and installed it. The headers are not in an AL/ directory, just Include, so I created this folder and moved the files to it. I added the path to the headers and the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Jsbsim trim

2004-04-24 Thread Chris Horler
Andy, It's a misfeature in the gear modelling. YASim has pretty much the same behavior. Both FDMs model gear force as a function of skidding velocity, which is fine for dynamic solutions. But a gear that is planted on the ground is capable of holding an aircraft at zero velocity, which

Re: [Flightgear-devel] OpenAL update

2004-04-24 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Curtis L. Olson wrote: Frederic Bouvier wrote: I updated and compiled FG with OpenAL flawlessly. Before I downloaded the Creative SDK for OpenAL and installed it. The headers are not in an AL/ directory, just Include, so I created this folder and moved the files to it. I added the path to the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] OpenAL update

2004-04-24 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Curtis L. Olson wrote: Frederic Bouvier wrote: I updated and compiled FG with OpenAL flawlessly. Before I downloaded the Creative SDK for OpenAL and installed it. The headers are not in an AL/ directory, just Include, so I created this folder and moved the files to it. I added the path

[Flightgear-devel] A couple of problems...

2004-04-24 Thread Lee Elliott
Hello All, I'm having trouble with a couple of FG problems. The less serious of the two concerns the weather settings. I'm using the default weather settings, except that I've increased the visibility ranges but I'm finding that the actual weather 'level' I'm getting, apart from initial

Re: [Flightgear-devel] OpenAL update

2004-04-24 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Curtis L. Olson wrote: Curtis L. Olson wrote: Frederic Bouvier wrote: I updated and compiled FG with OpenAL flawlessly. Before I downloaded the Creative SDK for OpenAL and installed it. The headers are not in an AL/ directory, just Include, so I created this folder and moved the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] OpenAL - http://www.openal.org

2004-04-24 Thread Tracy Martin
Dave wrote: Thanks for the feedback. I was hoping to catch up with you after you'd finished flying and discover what you thought of the helicopter dynamics, but missed you. I guess we've got some serious improvement to do. If you fly our helicopters occaisionally and tell us what is good and

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Multiplayer

2004-04-24 Thread Erik Hofman
Chris Horler wrote: Gents, Has anyone tried multiplayer? I haven't, but wondered if any representation of other a/c was in the property tree? Not yet, but if the multiplayer code starts using the AIModel code it will. This hasn't been done and (although I would like to) I don't think I can

Re: [Flightgear-devel] A couple of problems...

2004-04-24 Thread Erik Hofman
Lee Elliott wrote: Hello All, I'm having trouble with a couple of FG problems. The less serious of the two concerns the weather settings. I'm using the default weather settings, except that I've increased the visibility ranges but I'm finding that the actual weather 'level' I'm getting, apart

RE: [Flightgear-devel] OpenAL update

2004-04-24 Thread Jon Berndt
I need help though from the Mac people and cygwin/mingwin people. What are the openal libraries called on these platforms. At the moment the configure script assumes we want to link with -lopenal, but I don't expect this to work right for every platform. I expect there may be a couple days

Re: [Flightgear-devel] A couple of problems...

2004-04-24 Thread Lee Elliott
On Saturday 24 April 2004 22:19, Erik Hofman wrote: Lee Elliott wrote: Hello All, I'm having trouble with a couple of FG problems. The less serious of the two concerns the weather settings. I'm using the default weather settings, except that I've increased the visibility ranges but

Re: [Flightgear-devel] OpenAL

2004-04-24 Thread Lee Elliott
Hello Curt, will this require an OpenAL (dev) package to be installed, or will everything needed be included in the FG source? LeeE ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel

Re: [Flightgear-devel] OpenAL

2004-04-24 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Lee Elliott wrote: Hello Curt, will this require an OpenAL (dev) package to be installed, or will everything needed be included in the FG source? Yes, you'll want the openal dev package (or sdk or whatever it is called for your platform.) Curt. -- Curtis Olson

Re: [Flightgear-devel] OpenAL update

2004-04-24 Thread Chris Horler
Jon, I did a google search but so far have not found the words cygwin and openal together in a meaningful web page. http://cvs.seul.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb-1.80.cgi/games/openal/linux/configure.in This looks like it could be the openal cvs source tree (I don't have it to check). If you search for

Re: [Flightgear-devel] OpenAL

2004-04-24 Thread Andy Ross
Lee Elliott wrote: will this require an OpenAL (dev) package to be installed, or will everything needed be included in the FG source? It will require OpenAL to be installed separately. I just did it under linux, and it's a relatively benign ./autogen.sh ./configure make make install kind of

Re: [Flightgear-devel] OpenAL

2004-04-24 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Andy Ross wrote: It will require OpenAL to be installed separately. I just did it under linux, and it's a relatively benign ./autogen.sh ./configure make make install kind of thing. They imply that some distributions install it by default (Fedora doesn't), so it may already be there. The win

RE: [Flightgear-devel] OpenAL

2004-04-24 Thread Jon Berndt
There is a link to a binary SDK available from Creative, though, so presumably cygwin users could use that? I believe cygwin can link programs against normal windows .lib files, right? Andy Unfortunately that's starting to get outside the range of expertise I have and also the time

RE: [Flightgear-devel] OpenAL

2004-04-24 Thread Jon Berndt
Jon, you might also search for libopenal along with cygwin ... if cygwin packaged openal, I bet that is what they'd call it. Curt. That search appeared to be more productive initially, but nothing helpful has cropped up, yet. Jon, CygWin user - Help, Help! I'm being repressed!

[Flightgear-devel] Re: OpenAL

2004-04-24 Thread Simon Hollier
That search appeared to be more productive initially, but nothing helpful has cropped up, yet. Maybe this will help ? http://omapi.sourceforge.net/extra/ -Simon ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Flightgear-devel] OpenAL

2004-04-24 Thread Lee Elliott
On Saturday 24 April 2004 23:13, Andy Ross wrote: Lee Elliott wrote: will this require an OpenAL (dev) package to be installed, or will everything needed be included in the FG source? It will require OpenAL to be installed separately. I just did it under linux, and it's a relatively

Re: [Flightgear-devel] OpenAL update

2004-04-24 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Frederic Bouvier wrote: What is the right way to exit the main loop, rather than just calling exit() ? If there is no other option, we need an atexit call. I put alutExit() before exit(), with a sample playing from a previous run and the sound created by this instance are shut, the program