Re: [Flightgear-devel] status of aircraft carrier

2004-10-20 Thread Mathias Fröhlich
On Dienstag 19 Oktober 2004 21:23, Vivian Meazza wrote: Hmm, I am not satisfied with anything which is only working on a per frame basis. Just because, if so, we will have different bevour of our physical models dependent of the frammerate. I think I put this bit badly. The geodetic

RE: [Flightgear-devel] status of aircraft carrier

2004-10-20 Thread Vivian Meazza
Mathias Fröhlich wrote: Sent: 20 October 2004 07:41 To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] status of aircraft carrier On Dienstag 19 Oktober 2004 21:23, Vivian Meazza wrote: Hmm, I am not satisfied with anything which is only working on a per frame

RE: [Flightgear-devel] status of aircraft carrier

2004-10-20 Thread Norman Vine
I would like to have those positions of the arrester wires not in lat/lon/alt but rather than in earth centered coordinates (cartesian coordinates: x towards lat/lon=0, z towards northpole). Just because we already have all scenery values stored in this format. We have a scenery reference

Re: [Flightgear-devel] TaxiDraw-0.2.2 released

2004-10-20 Thread David Luff
On 10/19/04 at 8:41 PM Paul Surgeon wrote: I suggest that changes made override the official data until someone has a chance to review the problem airport. We can't have people spending hours building nice taxiways and then having the runways dancing around the place every time there is an

Re: [Flightgear-devel] TaxiDraw-0.2.2 released

2004-10-20 Thread David Luff
On 10/19/04 at 11:57 AM Chris Metzler wrote: Finally, I'm wondering how you're going to handle conflicts between future X-Plane data releases, and changes that people have sent to you. For example, suppose an FG user sends some changes to an airport to you; and suppose some X-Plane user sends

[Flightgear-devel] Linker problems with CVS version

2004-10-20 Thread Luca Masera
Hi everyone, I've downloaded the CVS patches to update my version of FlightGear. They compile but I've a lot of problems from the linker. They are: kr_87.obj : error LNK2005: public: __thiscall FGKR_87::FGKR_87(class SGPropertyNode *) (??0FGKR_87@@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@@@Z) already defined in

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Submodels

2004-10-20 Thread Vivian Meazza
Roy Vegard Ovesen Sent: 20 October 2004 00:32 To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Submodels On Tuesday 19 October 2004 19:42, Vivian Meazza wrote: It's not obviously a path problem. My preferences.xml file was updated at 15:22 yesterday, and has the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] TaxiDraw-0.2.2 released

2004-10-20 Thread David Luff
On 10/19/04 at 11:57 AM Chris Metzler wrote: I'm wondering whether we know what the X-Plane format really *is*. Since the beginning of September, Robin Peel has been saying that a new set of files are coming out next weekend, September 18. But he also says that these files won't work at all

[Flightgear-devel] kr_87 linker problems solved: was an error in instrument_mgr.cxx

2004-10-20 Thread Luca Masera
I've solved the linker error in the kr_87 object. It's an error in the file instrument_mgr.cxx into the include list, caused by the include of a the file kr_87.cxx instead of kr_87.hxx. The other problems still remain. Bye, Luce

Re: [Flightgear-devel] kr_87 linker problems solved: was an error in instrument_mgr.cxx

2004-10-20 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Selon Luca Masera [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I've solved the linker error in the kr_87 object. It's an error in the file instrument_mgr.cxx into the include list, caused by the include of a the file kr_87.cxx instead of kr_87.hxx. The other problems still remain. It's already fixed in CVS. -Fred

[Flightgear-devel] RE: Flightgear-devel Digest, Vol 18, Issue 53

2004-10-20 Thread walterwang
When I run fgfs to replay a data file which I saved, I got the following error: Running Main Loop === Updating time Current Unix calendar time = 1098302223 warp = 28320 Current GMT = 10/20/2004 19:57:3 Current Unix calendar time = 1098302223 warp = 28320 Current GMT =

Re: [Flightgear-devel] RE: Flightgear-devel Digest, Vol 18, Issue 53

2004-10-20 Thread Erik Hofman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I run fgfs to replay a data file which I saved, I got the following error: Could you provide all the command line options used to save the flight and which where used to replay the flight. Also, did you make sure --fdm=null was specified? Erik Running Main

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Submodels

2004-10-20 Thread Roy Vegard Ovesen
On Wednesday 20 October 2004 12:03, Vivian Meazza wrote: I have checked the path - I'm was the downloaded cvs data from 1522 Monday. I have re-downloaded cvs data and source this morning and recompiled. I've changed the hunter to use the generic files - it already has custom electrics and

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Submodels

2004-10-20 Thread Vivian Meazza
Roy Vegard Ovesen: Sent: 20 October 2004 13:31 To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Submodels On Wednesday 20 October 2004 12:03, Vivian Meazza wrote: I have checked the path - I'm was the downloaded cvs data from 1522 Monday. I have re-downloaded cvs

[Flightgear-devel] Re: Submodels

2004-10-20 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Roy Vegard Ovesen -- Wednesday 20 October 2004 14:31: I also updated from CVS this morning and all instruments still work, here. I guess that if all instruments and all systems in every aircraft were broken then a whole lot of other people would have noticed too. Indeed! I'm running the

[Flightgear-devel] Re: Submodels

2004-10-20 Thread Melchior FRANZ
[cvs, sticky attributes] * Melchior FRANZ -- Wednesday 20 October 2004 15:21: You can bring all files back to HEAD with the -A option. If you use the -C option as well, then even your locally changed filea are saved away (.#foo.cxx.1.123) and overwritten by the HEAD files. $ cvs up -A

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Submodels

2004-10-20 Thread Roy Vegard Ovesen
On Wednesday 20 October 2004 15:09, Vivian Meazza wrote: Try to run Flightgear with --log-level=info and look for these lines: Reading instruments from data/Aircraft/Generic/generic-instrumentation.xml Adding subsystem instrumentation Reading systems from

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Submodels

2004-10-20 Thread Vivian Meazza
Melchior FRANZ wrote: Sent: 20 October 2004 14:39 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Submodels [cvs, sticky attributes] * Melchior FRANZ -- Wednesday 20 October 2004 15:21: You can bring all files back to HEAD with the -A option. If you use the -C option as well,

RE: [Flightgear-devel] status of aircraft carrier

2004-10-20 Thread Vivian Meazza
Norman Vine wrote: Sent: 20 October 2004 09:32 To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: RE: [Flightgear-devel] status of aircraft carrier I would like to have those positions of the arrester wires not in lat/lon/alt but rather than in earth centered coordinates (cartesian

RE: [Flightgear-devel] status of aircraft carrier

2004-10-20 Thread Norman Vine
Vivian Meazza writes: Norman Vine wrote: soapbox FWIW using LLZ for anything except using user input / output is a step back to the 'dark ages' of the pre satelite era and the advances in Geodysey of the post Sputnik world. /soapbox Unless that is, someone can tell me

RE: [Flightgear-devel] status of aircraft carrier

2004-10-20 Thread Vivian Meazza
Norman Vine wrote: Sent: 20 October 2004 16:41 To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: RE: [Flightgear-devel] status of aircraft carrier Vivian Meazza writes: Norman Vine wrote: soapbox FWIW using LLZ for anything except using user input / output is a step back

RE: [Flightgear-devel] status of aircraft carrier

2004-10-20 Thread Norman Vine
Vivian Meazza writes: It would be easy to convert to X,Y,Z coordinates, if I knew the equations see SimGear / simgear / math / sg_geodesy /** * Convert a geodetic lat/lon/altitude to a cartesian point. * * @param lat (in) Latitude, in radians * @param lon (in) Longitude, in radians *

[Flightgear-devel] how to interface with flightgear

2004-10-20 Thread
I am working on a autopilot project and we need a flight simulator to prove our control method before use it on a real aircraft. Is there any interface to get the attitude of aircraft from and send control data to flightgear. I mean get the altitude, rate, accelerate and so on from it and send

Re: [Flightgear-devel] how to interface with flightgear

2004-10-20 Thread Steven Beeckman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am working on a autopilot project and we need a flight simulator to prove our control method before use it on a real aircraft. Is there any interface to get the attitude of aircraft from and send control data to flightgear. I mean get the altitude, rate, accelerate and

Re: [Flightgear-devel] how to interface with flightgear

2004-10-20 Thread Jonathan Polley
In the network area (http://cvs.flightgear.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs/viewcvs.cgi/source/src/Network/?cvsroot=FlightGear-0.9) there is a data structure defined in net_ctrls.hxx that contains the data you want, but I don't think that it is being filled in by any of the FDMs. Jonathan Polley On

Re: [Flightgear-devel] how to interface with flightgear

2004-10-20 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 01:26:54 +0800 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am working on a autopilot project and we need a flight simulator to prove our control method before use it on a real aircraft. Is there any interface to get the attitude of aircraft from and send control data to flightgear. I

[Flightgear-devel] [OT] Aviation weblog: Land and Hold Short

2004-10-20 Thread David Megginson
I have had little luck finding aviation weblogs (they're all about rants about politics, hype about technology, or complaints about teenagers' social lives), so a couple of weeks ago, I decided to start my own. So far, it's heavy on content on light on good looks, so it's probably a fair

[Flightgear-devel] Re: DeHavilland Beaver

2004-10-20 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Melchior FRANZ -- Tuesday 19 October 2004 21:51: * Curtis L. Olson -- Tuesday 19 October 2004 20:00: - It has a full animated 3d cockpit. Unfortunately, the ac3d/crease patch does only leave black holes where the instruments should be. Looks very nice without that patch, though. ;-)

[Flightgear-devel] Re: DeHavilland Beaver

2004-10-20 Thread Melchior FRANZ
Ohh, and don't start it from 28R! $ fgfs --aircraft=dhc2F --lon=-122.43695 --lat=37.60588 --heading=155 m. :-) ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel

RE: [Flightgear-devel] status of aircraft carrier

2004-10-20 Thread Vivian Meazza
Norman Vine Sent: 20 October 2004 18:08 To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: RE: [Flightgear-devel] status of aircraft carrier Vivian Meazza writes: It would be easy to convert to X,Y,Z coordinates, if I knew the equations see SimGear / simgear / math / sg_geodesy /**

RE: [Flightgear-devel] status of aircraft carrier

2004-10-20 Thread Vivian Meazza
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flightgear-devel- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Norman Vine Sent: 20 October 2004 09:32 To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: RE: [Flightgear-devel] status of aircraft carrier I would like to have those positions of

RE: [Flightgear-devel] status of aircraft carrier

2004-10-20 Thread Norman Vine
Vivian Meazza writes: Norman Vine see SimGear / simgear / math / sg_geodesy void sgGeodToCart(double lat, double lon, double alt, double* xyz); Not brilliant though. In the property tree Lat/Lon is in degrees, and altitude in ft, so that's a 2 step conversion. Well the Property

[Flightgear-devel] segfault in AI code

2004-10-20 Thread David Culp
Just downloaded a fresh CVS FlightGear and found that the AI code is causing segfaults now. I'll recompile and run it through gdb. In the mean time beware that some aircraft that set up AI scenarios by default, like the T-38 or the hunter-2tanks, are crashing the sim. Dave --

RE: [Flightgear-devel] status of aircraft carrier

2004-10-20 Thread Vivian Meazza
Norman Vine wrote: Sent: 20 October 2004 21:36 To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: RE: [Flightgear-devel] status of aircraft carrier Vivian Meazza writes: Norman Vine see SimGear / simgear / math / sg_geodesy void sgGeodToCart(double lat, double lon, double alt,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] Aviation weblog: Land and Hold Short

2004-10-20 Thread Boris Koenig
David Megginson wrote: I have had little luck finding aviation weblogs (they're all about rants about politics, ...how would you then call the following: http://www.megginson.com/blogs/lahso/medicals.html ? ;-) (just kidding) BTW: talking of healthy presidents: Pres. Bush Senior did even

Re: [Flightgear-devel] VBOs - performance test results

2004-10-20 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
If we have to go through that much trouble to improve so little, we may as well as look into something more powerful... like OpenRT. Just my two cents. Ampere On October 19, 2004 03:51 pm, Roman Grigoriev wrote: Frederic! If we have own scenegraph fully optimized to use VBO I think that it

Re: [Flightgear-devel] View for a down facing camera

2004-10-20 Thread Jim Wilson
Birger Brunswiek said: I'm trying to create a new view which is supposed to be a camera fixed under the Cesna at the body. So far it looks like this: view nameCamera View/camera internal type=boolfalse/internal config from-model type=booltrue/from-model from-model-idx

Re: [Flightgear-devel] TaxiDraw-0.2.2 released

2004-10-20 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On October 20, 2004 06:12 am, David Luff wrote: I'm wondering whether we know what the X-Plane format really *is*. Since the beginning of September, Robin Peel has been saying that a new set of files are coming out next weekend, September 18.  But he also says that these files won't work at

Re: [Flightgear-devel] VBOs - performance test results

2004-10-20 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
I'm afraid, you cannot expect people to purchase new hardware for an open source game to work ;-) Is new hardware really necessary? The reason I brought the OpenRT topic up again is that (as far as I understand) it can run on most people's desktop. Checking the 777's page:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] TaxiDraw-0.2.2 released

2004-10-20 Thread Boris Koenig
David Luff wrote: On 10/19/04 at 11:57 AM Chris Metzler wrote: I think that your idea to put a taxiway designator in the 'xxx' (bet this message gets flagged as spam now!) part of the record is an excellent one. The downside of course is that it would require X-Plane itself to understand it

Re: [Flightgear-devel] VBOs - performance test results

2004-10-20 Thread Boris Koenig
Ampere K. Hardraade wrote: I'm afraid, you cannot expect people to purchase new hardware for an open source game to work ;-) Is new hardware really necessary? nope, it wasn't required - after all it is supposed to be software-raytracing and not hardware, but I *assume* without a corresponding

Re: [Flightgear-devel] VBOs - performance test results

2004-10-20 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
First of all, I'm not saying let's switch to OpenRT now. I am saying that if FlightGear's scenegraph ever requires a large restructure, it will be a good time to look at the feasibility of using OpenRT. On October 20, 2004 11:50 pm, Boris Koenig wrote: nope, it wasn't required - after all it

Re: [Flightgear-devel] OpenRT (was: VBOs - performance test results)

2004-10-20 Thread Boris Koenig
But, hell - yes, it does look damn amazing: http://graphics.cs.uni-sb.de/Dynamic/Images/chess.jpg http://graphics.cs.uni-sb.de/Dynamic/Images/dance.jpg http://graphics.cs.uni-sb.de/Dynamic/Images/kitchen.jpg taking into account that all this was created without conventional 3D hardware - the