To all concerned
May we please put this thread to rest and allow FGFS
to return to "soaring above petty OS bigotry"
Thanks
Norman
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>
> Am Montag, 25. August 2003 20:43 schrieb Arnt Karlsen:
>
> > > > I thought the LZW patent had expired?
> > >
> > > At least not in Europe. You'll have to wait until 2004.
> >
> > .."Europe"??? Where is that?. ;-)
> >
> > ..for our US website, we're ok:
>
> USA
Jon Stockill writes:
>
> I've built some UK scenery using the SRTM-30 data mentioned the other day,
> and it does seem to have a bit more shape to it than the same areas built
> with the previous GTOPO30 - things like river valleys actually have some
> slope to their sides now, where previously th
Erik Hofman writes:
> >
> > Erik, do you have in mind a library of reading functions and which archive
> > format to use? Since we already use zlib, would the archive be in tar format
> > with each file compressed using z? The idea of reading each file directly
> > out of the archive sounds b
David Megginson writes:
>
> It's time to develop a package manager for aircraft and add-on
> scenery, and perhaps for other stuff as well.
I agree it is certainly time for some kind of 'data' manager
not really sure what 'form' the manager should be though
Can you elaborate a bit on what you
Arnt Karlsen writes:
> Matevz Jekovec
> > >
> > Is there any way to checkout certain directories in CVS repository and
> > not the whole module? If not, IMHO Aircraft and Textures.high should
> > be in seperated CVS then. Default base package should only include
> > Cessna 172 and lowres textures.
Erik Hofman writes:
> >
> > FWIW -
> > FGFS seems to run at about the same fps without the 3D clouds
> > so this slowdown appears to be contained within the new Cloud code
>
> This is hard to believe. The change is just too simple for that to
> happen. Maybe we happen to trigger a feature that
Erik Hofman writes:
>
> Norman Vine wrote:
> > Hmm
> >
> > For starters Clouds3D crashes because there is no Light
> > see attached for a patch
> > < FWIW I can't believe what is in the CVS could possibly run >
>
> The previous patch
Hmm
For starters Clouds3D crashes because there is no Light
see attached for a patch
< FWIW I can't believe what is in the CVS could possibly run >
secondly the 3D clouds are not transparent
ie the black quad always appears now
third my frame rate has dropped from ~20fps to <1fps
this is wi
Hi All,
All the new aircraft etc in FGFS is very impressive :-)
But this is starting to add for me anyway an unacceptable
time burden on statying current. i.e. I am trying to debug
a Cloud3D crash which appeared today and assuming that
it was probably something in the base files that changed
I
Erik Hofman writes:
> Frederic Bouvier wrote:
> > Curtis L. Olson wrote:
>
> >>How about we name releases after California gubernatorial candidates.
> >>That gives us 135 releases before we'd run out of names. For those of
> >>you outside the USA (or inside the USA) that just said, "Huh?"; trust
Erik Hofman writes:
>
> That's because the code that triggers the error isn't available in the
> CVS version of two weeks old. There is a driver issue.
Note NVIDIA just released new drivers < 45.23 > for WIN32 and Linux
Norman
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Jon Berndt writes:
>
> I've tried building the latest flightgear from CVS. I've updated to the
> latest version both plib and simgear and they build. However, when trying
> to build flightgear I get an error right away when trying to build the
> applications in test:
> gcc-L/usr/X11R6/lib
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Curtis L.
> Olson
> Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 2:38 PM
> To: FlightGear developers discussions
> Subject: Re: RFD: Landmarks and scenery (was Re: [Flightgear-devel] CYTZ
> and CNTower)
>
>
> David Me
Christopher S Horler writes:
> On Sun, 2003-08-10 at 06:24, Norman Vine wrote:
> > I upgraded my MingW compiler to gcc3.3
> > and tried the following CFLAGS to use the sse multimedia
> > registers instead of the normal 387 fpu instructions
> >
> > -O2 -
Jon Berndt
>
> > If I include the change you suggest, will that stop the build process from
> > trying to use the wrong version of opengl?
> >
> > Jon
>
>
> It didn't seem to help.
Kind of hard to help you unless you at least
give us some error messages :-)
Is any of XLIB being included in th
Getting rid of GLUT dependencies is a good thing
even if the message in the CVS Log is a more then
a *little* scary since it 'mentions' moving to SDL
attached patch gets rid of all mention of GLUT from
the cockpit directory
Norman
cockpit.diffs.tgz
Description: Binary data
_
Erik Hofman writes:
>
> I really would like to have SDL support available in FlightGear. In can
> give FG a good step in the right direction. If Cygwin isn't supported
> that would be a major drawback though.
>
> Positives:
Coments interspersed
> * Native Win32 threading support
This works w
Curtis L. Olson writes:
>
> Norman Vine writes:
> > Haven't seen many reports from FlightGear developers
> > doing any beta testing guess they are all to busy beta
> > testing OSG and SDL integration
>
> If this was marriage counseling, the above stat
Al West writes:
>
> I'm looking (I did a grep -r -i pathsplit * in the simgear subdir.
> I did take a look at sg_path.cxx but the closest thing in there is dir()
> - nothing in there that will return a list of strings.
> Have I got an old version?:
> sg_path.cxx v1.1.1.1 2002/09/07 02:57:42
Yes
/
Al West writes:
>
> Thanks for the all the help guys I finally got a working version of
> flightgear running just fine. However that won't be the last of me if
> you subscribe to terragear lists too. I notice that there is a Golden
> Gate bridge pictured in the clouds3d_gg.
Frederic Bouvier writes:
>
> It seems that the latest changes are only responsible for the fog
> problem. I still have the seams after backing out them. Now
> I am suspecting the 3D clouds.
>
> For the fog, it is sunset now at SF and I am facing the sun : I am
> seeing no fog. If I rotate the vi
Erik Hofman writes:
>
> Norman Vine wrote:
> >
> > PUI has had considerable attention in the past year
> > Although there are several projects underway, I am
> > not really sure that SDL has anything comparable yet.
>
> PUI is ssg based.
No although there
Melchior FRANZ writes:
>
> * Norman Vine -- Friday 08 August 2003 21:18:
> > and as far as LandMarks go I can't really see why they don't just go in the
> > standard scenery file as since they are LandMarks they probably only
> > apply to one location :-)
>
I upgraded my MingW compiler to gcc3.3
and tried the following CFLAGS to use the sse multimedia
registers instead of the normal 387 fpu instructions
-O2 -march=pentium3 -msse -mfpmath=sse
Wow -- seems like a nice improvement in the fps :-)
You will need a P3 or better for this
not exactly sure
Jim Wilson writes:
>
> BTW It didn't seem that taxiing on the bridge was working with the current
> code. I didn't pursue the issue with other things more pressing. But I'm
> wondering, has anyone else been able to do so? Does the carrier landing work
> with the current code?
I haven't tried t
Geoff Reidy writes:
>
> Norman Vine wrote:
> > For those that want to fly under the bridges
> >
> > /// scenery.cxx
> >
>
> Hey I like it, once I figured out the change only involves uncommenting
> a line in tilemgr.cxx.
> Only catch is I can&#x
Curtis L. Olson writes:
>
> I just wanted to float an idea on the list and see if anyone had any
> comments. This isn't an official proposal and I'm not chomping at the
> bit to make a change. It's just an idea I find interesting to think
> about and I'd like to get some sort of feedback/comment
Jon Berndt writes:
>
> What would have changed to screw it up, though? I've never had a problem
> with this before...
Have you installed the Cygwin XServer recently ??
i.e I notice you are linking against -L/usr/X11R6/lib
Not really sure of the best way of handling this as I haven't
installed t
David Megginson writes:
>
> Lee Elliott writes:
>
> > Perhaps we need a directory in Scenery that can be scanned for
> > world landmarks like this. Could the model and location data be
> > defined in an xml file? Would it be possible to animate them?
> > (thinking rotating restaurants and s
Curtis L. Olson writes:
>
> Norman Vine writes:
> > Getting rid of GLUT dependencies is a good thing
> > even if the message in the CVS Log is a more then
> > a *little* scary since it 'mentions' moving to SDL
>
> We should probably have an open discus
Jon Berndt writes:
>
> Oops. Yes, the error is in fact different. It's confusing me. I just had a
> good build of simgear, too. The wierd thing (to me) in the messages below is
> this especially:
>
> cannot find -lsgmat h
>
> What's that?
it looks like a tab or two got inserted i
Norman Vine wrote:
>
> Hmm does this help ?
Ooops I forgot to free the mem
>
>
> SkyCloud::Load(const SkyArchive &archive,
> float rScale, /* = 1.0f */
> double latitude, double longitude )
> {
...
Alex Perry writes:
>
> > > SkyContext.cpp:55: conversion from `int' to `enum GLenum'
>
> From: "Norman Vine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > I don't understand this one Alex ??
> > from my GL/glut.h
> > #define GLUT_WINDOW_WIDTH
David Megginson writes:
>
> Curtis L. Olson writes:
>
> > The ":" path separate character might be hard to make unambiguos on
> > the windows platform. But it is the standard under unix.
> >
> > Would anyone be opposed to using the ";" character as a path separator
> > since these paths co
James Turner writes:
>
> Obviously the code is pretty close to building under mingw,
pretty close ???
AFAIK Fred's recent MSVC compiled FGFS is the first non-MingW
compiled Win32 executable ever releaased :-)
Cheers
Norman
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Erik Hofman writes:
>
> Oh, I almost forgot. It's actively developed.
> Nobody seems interested in anything but ssg in the plib list (and still).
Hmm...
SG probably doesn't need any work
PUI has had considerable attention in the past year
Although there are several projects underway, I am
not
Allan West writes:
>
> I've got the latest CVS version - well as of 10am BST today.
> I've successfully compiled FG 0.9.2 and it's dependants.
>
> However when I come to compiling the CVS version I get errors with respect
> to the max() function use from the UIUC source files (that's what I can m
For those that want to fly under the bridges
/// scenery.cxx
int FGTileMgr::updateCurrentElevAtPos(sgdVec3 abs_pos_vector, Point3D center) {
sgdVec3 sc;
sgdSetVec3( sc, center[0], center[1], center[2]);
// overridden with actual values if a terrain intersection is
// found
Hi all,
I have temporarily placed a 'snapshot' Win32 binary at
http://www.vso.cape.com/~nhv/files/fgfs/fgfs_mingw_p3_030811.tgz
WARNING -- THIS BINARY WILL ONLY RUN ON
GENUINE INTEL PENTIUM III or PENTIUM IV CPUs
This requires fairly recent data files as obtained from CVS
This binary was compil
Jon Berndt writes:
>
> What would have changed to screw it up, though? I've never had a problem
> with this before...
No idea, and since:
1) I have already spent *way* too much time on this,
2) the fix works for me
I'll leave that for others to determine and just use my patch :-)
Cheers
Curtis L. Olson
>
> Norman Vine writes:
> > I am wondering what having multiple paths to search will do for 'stutter'
> >
> > and as far as LandMarks go I can't really see why they don't just go in the
> > standard scenery file as since they
Curtis L. Olson writes:
>
> David Megginson writes:
> > Curtis L. Olson writes:
> >
> > > The ":" path separate character might be hard to make unambiguos on
> > > the windows platform. But it is the standard under unix.
> > >
> > > Would anyone be opposed to using the ";" character as a pa
Alex Perry writes:
>
> Making all in clouds3d
> make[1]: Entering directory `/home/alex/fs/SimGear/simgear/scene/sky/clouds3d'
> source='SkyContext.cpp' object='SkyContext.o' libtool=no \
> depfile='.deps/SkyContext.Po' tmpdepfile='.deps/SkyContext.TPo' \
> depmode=gcc /bin/sh ../../../../depcomp
Erik Hofman writes:
>
> I've basically given up making the cloud loader endian aware. The author
> uses "unsigned char *" to pass different kinds of types into one pass
> from a file into a data array which makes it extremely difficult to
> resolve all the endain issues.
Hmm does this help
Curtis L. Olson writes:
>
> Norman Vine writes:
> >
> > appreciating-the-Simple-in-SSG-more-each-dail'ly yr's
>
> So if I read you right, your beef is more with OSG's cygwin support
> and less to do with capabilities, performance, etc.
No it has more t
Curtis L. Olson writes:
>
> Hi Norman,
>
> I appreciate your experience and that your comment is well informed,
> but taken at face value, it doesn't do much to inform the rest of us.
> Can you list any supporting reasons? That's kind of what I was
> angling for in my original posting.
I use OS
Norman Vine wrote:
>
> Curtis L. Olson writes:
> >
> > Norman Vine writes:
> > > Looks as if a recent change is always resetting the visibility
> > > to startup value. Haven't had time to see what is doing this
> > > >
> > David rece
further experimenting with particle size
http://www.vso.cape.com/~nhv/files/fgfs/clouds/clouds3d_gg.jpg
Norman
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Erik Hofman writes:
>
> Curtis L. Olson wrote:
> > Erik Hofman writes:
>
> >>I've added a property /sim/scene_lighting to the code to switch between
> >>old and new behavior at runtime (not that you have to speed up time
> >>temporarily to get to the new state by pressing 't').
> >
> >
> > Ho
Erik Hofman writes:
>
> Norman Vine wrote:
> > Erik Hofman writes:
> >
> >>Norman Vine wrote:
> >>
> >>>Hi All
> >>
> >>Is this a proposed patch which can go into CVS?
> >
> >
> > Why don't you just &
David Megginson writes:
>
> Norman Vine writes:
>
> > ie look at the vmap0 representation for many islands and you will find
> > that they are just 3 or 4 points wheas the same in GSHHS will show
> > things ike atols and barrier reefs for the same place
>
>
David Megginson wriyes:
>
> Erik Hofman writes:
>
> > I already had the impression something wasn't completely right with the
> > vmap0 data, but this beats everything.
>
> The elevation doesn't come from the vmap0 data. What happens is that
> we have to build with --min-triangle=0 because T
3, 2003 at 02:42:34PM -0400, Norman Vine wrote:
> > Why don't you just 'try it' and determine that for yourself :-)
> >
> > see
> > http://www.vso.cape.com/~nhv/files/fgfs/clouds/
>
> On a side note, check the propeller on this one:
> http://www.vso.
Erik Hofman writes:
>
> Norman Vine wrote:
> > Hi All
>
> Is this a proposed patch which can go into CVS?
Why don't you just 'try it' and determine that for yourself :-)
see
http://www.vso.cape.com/~nhv/files/fgfs/clouds/
Note the trick here is to transform
Martin Spott writes:
>
> "Norman Vine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > cd $METAKIT/builds
> > ../unix/configure --disable-shared --with-out-tcl --prefix=/usr
> > make
> > make install
>
> I configure Metakit with slightly different
Hi All
I spent sometime yesterday mucking with the matrix code
in Clouds3d then something turned on the light :-)
Note that SSG and OpenGL use different representations
of Matrices.
1) SSG is row major and OpenGL is column major
ie SSG is
0 1 2 3
4 5 6 7
8 9 10 11
12 13 14 15
whe
Martin Spott writes:
>
> Chris Reichow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > If you're compiling using Cygwin or MinGW, like I am,
> > I just copy the compiled libraries to /usr/lib. It's
> > a lazy workaround.
>
> Yes, in case I _really_ want to use the current Metakit, then I'll do
> something about
Matevz Jekovec writes:
>
> (or at least I see you like FGFS meister:))
FWIW
AFAIK Curt *is* the 'official' FlightGear BDFL
< Benevolent Dictator For Life >
at-least-until-he-resign'ly yr's
Cheers
Norman
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> A. Harris
> Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2003 1:17 AM
> To:
Richard A Downing writes:
>
> I'm working my way through some of the UK aerodromes, and have hit some problems
> agreeing ANY of the decimal coordinates
> in the FG files with the DMS coordinates given in the UK AIP.
>
> For instance, London Gatwick (EGKK) has ARP at N510853 W0001125, which by
Richard A Downing writes:
>
> I'm working my way through some of the UK aerodromes, and have hit
some problems agreeing ANY of the decimal coordinates
> in the FG files with the DMS coordinates given in the UK AIP.
probably worth while reading this just to
make sure you have the 'maths' right
h
David Megginson writes:
> >
> That depends on where and when. I think that most pilots in the
> eastern U.S. (you're there, aren't you, Norm?) would have been happy
> even for 3 SM for much of this spring and summer, and L.A., of course,
> has its smog. Somewhere like Arizona, on the other hand,
David Megginson writes:
>
> Curtis L. Olson writes:
>
> > Make default visibility exactly 10 miles.
>
> Six statue miles is the generally-accepted cutoff for good VFR.
> Terminal area forecasts (TAF's) don't bother with anything over that,
> and just report P6SM (plus six statue miles).
Nice t
Erik Hofman writes:
>
> http://www.a1.nl/~ehofman/fgfs/gallery/fokker/
>
> It's starting to look quite good now.
Coming along nicely
< nit >
It is hard to tell but it almost looks as if there is
something going on with the normals on the wing
panels. ie the shaddowing doesn't quite seem
con
Innis Cunningham writes:
>
> Some things that would help(just my opinion)
> Being able to access the A/C models from their A/C folder.
A slightly different approach would be to have the models be
accquisitionable from a higher level directory in the path
ie if model isn't found in the current dir
Curtis L. Olson writes:
>
> David Megginson writes:
> > Curtis L. Olson writes:
> >
> > > Most high end commercial sims explicitly prevent flying under
> > > bridges. It's one of the first things most people think to try,
> > > but it's not something a serious training sim would want to
> >
Norman Vine wrote:
>
> attached find patches that implement a new option
>
> --enable-hud-3d < default >
> --disable-hud-3d
>
> Note that the disable variant also reverts the HUD Ladder
> 'compression factor'. The compression is 'sticky' i
Lee Elliott writes:
>
> On Monday 14 July 2003 01:59, Norman Vine wrote:
> >
> > Nothing says you can't change your local source
> >
> > The following reverts to the previous HUD
>
> Ta for that but I'd rather manage with the standard FG as far
Lee Elliott writes:
> On Monday 14 July 2003 00:35, Michael Selig wrote:
> >
> > With the latter two, it'd be really nice to get back the 2D HUD (vs the 3D
> > one that moves around). I used the old 2D HUD a lot w/ demos and in my own
> > model development.
> >
> Same here about using the HU
James Turner writes:
>
> Another thing to consider is the flip-side - being able to taxi *on*
> bridges,
You can do this in FGFS now
You just can't fly lower then the highest point at any location
> I don't know how much collision detection SSG handles,
SSG doesn't do collision detection period,
Lee Elliott writes:
>
> On Sunday 13 July 2003 14:38, Norman Vine wrote:
> > Lee Elliott writes:
> > >
> > > Night textures would be nice too but texture space is at a bit of a
> premium
> > > atm. ;) There are already some nice sky effects tho
Lee Elliott writes:
>
> Night textures would be nice too but texture space is at a bit of a premium
> atm. ;) There are already some nice sky effects though.
Texture space shouldn't be a problem
I am assuming of course that the 'daytime' and the 'nighttime' textures
wouldn't need to be in me
Most systems are "compatable" with the STL
So this should be only be needed for those that need
a little extra "compatability" help :-))
Cheers
Norman
<650> SimGear
$ cvs diff configure.ac
Index: configure.ac
===
RCS file: /var/cv
David Megginson writes:
>
> Jim Wilson writes:
> >
> > Is this true that the textures get reloaded, and is there some way to share
> > textures between objects and not just save disk space?
>
> Any comment, plib types?
SSG models should already be sharing textures based on
'Texture Name' se
Jim Wilson writes:
>
> Erik Hofman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>
> > > 1) Less effort positioning buildings (easier to move them around if need be).
> > > Just place the origin at some landmark in the scene and place the whole thing
> > > in one shot.
> >
> > I really think we should switch over
Curtis L. Olson writes:
>
> Today I was able to get FlightGear running on a 5 projector wrap
> around display.
>
> Here is a picture of the facility (when it was running other
> software):
>
>http://www.humanfirst.umn.edu/Facilities/simpics/screenandcar_small.jpg
>
Neat :-)
Out of curiosi
Lee Elliott writes:
>
> Could this particle system do clouds?
Not really at least not efficiently enough to make it worthwhile
Hopefully someone will wnat clouds bad enough to look at
the 3D cloud code currently #ifdefed out of SimGear again
Norman
Bernie Bright writes:
> "Norman Vine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Jon S Berndt writes:
> > >
> > > What's the potential of creating contrails for such a
> > > thing as the X-15 rocket engine? Wingtip vortices? etc.?
> >
&
Jon Berndt writes:
>
>
> http://www.airrace.org/raceCourse.php
Doesn't help
""The contents of this Web site are copyright C2002-2003 Mark Johnston and the Reno
Air Racing Association.
No part of this Web site may be reproduced without the express written consent of the
copyright holders"""
Gene Buckle writes:
>
> > > > http://www.pylon1.com/news/need4speed/fsar_01/index_02.shtml
> > > >
> > >
> > > Oh goodie. I think I'll go copyright Hudson Bay and charge everyone that
> > > takes pictures of it.
> > >
> > > Screw 'em. Set up the pylons with a 100 foot or so offset.
> >
> > I am
Gene Buckle writes:
>
> > > It would be neat to build a duplicate of the Reno Air Races course and
> > > field.
> >
> > Well... we can't do that.
> >
> > "By: Mark Kallio
> >
> > Well, it was a nice thought while it lasted - developing a plug-in for air
> > racing fans out there to go online and h
WillyB writes:
>
> Thanks for the encouragement and the links :-))
>
> I found these while surfing last night:
> http://www.infosys.tuwien.ac.at/Research/Component/tutorial/prwmain.htm
> http://www.thinkbrown.com/programming/
> (and from the last link):
> http://www.mindview.net/Books/TICPP/Think
Arnt Karlsen writes:
>
> On Fri, 4 Jul 2003 12:24:01 -0700,
> WillyB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> >
> > Ok Rich... now I'm in trouble because he seems a little bit interested
> > and asked me how to program. I know enough to sometimes follow the
> > code, bu
Martin Spott writes:
>
> "Norman Vine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > If you have a time series of positions, you have a time series of velocities
> > ie the velocity is just the first difference ( Pi - P(i-1)) / dT;
> > And acceleration is just t
Martin Spott writes:
>
> Lawrence Manning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Have no idea at all where those aircraft come from! But I believe I can
> > answer the last point. The jumping around is because of the way the
> > multiplayer feature works; it simply transmits coordinates at regular
David Megginson writes:
>
> Norman Vine writes:
>
> > Curiously the commandline flag '--visibility=' still works but
> > changing the property '/environment/visibility' in the RunTime Property
> > Tree Browser doesn't
>
WillyB writes:
> On Wednesday 02 July 2003 20:55, Norman Vine wrote:
> > WillyB writes:
> > > I was a little off.. updated from CVS and then ran make ...
> > > then every time it goes to another dir it runs automake-0.7 -gnu blah
> > > blah... a popup w/ Perl
WillyB writes:
>
> I was a little off.. updated from CVS and then ran make ...
> then every time it goes to another dir it runs automake-0.7 -gnu blah blah...
> a popup w/ Perl in the title of the window comes up 5 times in a row, with
> This program has performed an illegal operation and will b
WillyB writes:
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> When I compile on cygwin I get some perl Illegal Function program will close
> dialogues.. 6 per makefile .. and they come 6 at a time.. 6 sets of 6 ..
> (wonder what the devil has went wrong!) J/K!
>
> All seems to run fine once simgear/flightgear are compiled, but it get
Curtis L. Olson writes:
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> Norman Vine writes:
> > Looks as if a recent change is always resetting the visibility
> > to startup value. Haven't had time to see what is doing this
> > >
> David recently revamped the weather subsystem to allow for specifying
Melchior FRANZ writes:
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> * Lee Elliott -- Wednesday 02 July 2003 20:40:
> > where are people getting their plib cvs from? I was getting it from
> > sourceforge but there seems to have been a problem with that for a few days
> > now. Does anyone know of any mirrors anywhere?
None that I know
Looks as if a recent change is always resetting the visibility
to startup value. Haven't had time to see what is doing this
This is with a this AM's CVS first update in a week or so
Norman
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Gerhard Wesp writes:
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> > I know that threading inside an OpenGL context is considered to be a no-no,
>
> Why? References?
http://www.opengl.org/developers/documentation/specs.html
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Richard Bytheway writes:
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>
> The mapping between how windows sees directories, and how cygwin sees directories is
> odd, but not that complicated.
> I will use "" marks to enclose commands and paths, when you type them, do not type
> the "".
>
> What windows sees as "H:\cygwin" is "/" under
Martin Spott writes:
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> /usr/include/sys/stream.h:67: error: `struct queue' redeclared as different
>kind of symbol
> /usr/local/include/c++/3.3/bits/stl_queue.h:71: error: previous declaration of
>`templatestd::allocator<_CharT> > > class std::queue'
> make[4]: *** [FGDeadBand.o] E
Curtis L. Olson writes:
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> Norman Vine writes:
> > Better not as I only have a 10 meg account and nothing is very
> > permanent as I am often needing space for other things
> >
> > as advertised on my site
> > !! Warning anything here is only temporarily
Curtis L. Olson writes:
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> Norman Vine writes:
> > FWIW - I think my exe is working fine now also
> >
> > It also has the threaded scenery pager enabled
> > which I don't believe Fred's does
> >
> > But I could care less which exe is linked
Martin Spott writes:
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> "Curtis L. Olson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > There were also some reports of problems initially. Have things
> > settled out? Which one should I post as the official binary?
>
> I've tried Fred's binary a few times with the default airplane at default
> location
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