I would like to apply a character tag to a particular character that is
used in paragraphs of several different styles without changing the rest
of the attributes. As far as I can tell, Frame only lets me change
character attributes, not tags.
If I understand, the problem is to change OldTag to
I think you would need to make a special cross reference style that you use
just to create the cross references to the commands.
Then define for that cross reference style that the characters should appear
in italics (i.e. use for the cross reference the character tag that is used for
the
Hi,
That isn't going to work - Rebeccas problem is that only part of the
text-to-be-referenced is in italics.
I'm not sure there is a solution to this...
-Niels
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Caroline Tabach
Sent: 31. januar 2007
At 15:19 +1100 31/1/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A former client of mine has a thesis with many graphics imported by
reference into FrameMaker 5.5.6 running in Classic Mac 9.1 on
PowerMacintosh. She wants to convert them to InDesign v. 2.0. I
suggested that she save to Mac Word 4, 5, or 6, or
Strange.
I find importing Visio files as OLE objects (from Visio 2000 to FM 7.2)
to work just fine. When I try to FileInsertFile (by reference) it
doesn't recognize the Visio file format, and Visio is not in the list.
Perhaps my version of Visio is too old.
Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson
T.W.
Lodewijk,
You wrote:
... In the result so far we notice that not only
head(Level1)
head(Level2)
head(Level3)
appears as bookmark but also
head(Level1)TOC
head(Level2)TOC
head(Level3)TOC
It is as if head(Level1), head(Level3), head(Level3) have a wildcard so
that also elements with a
Hello all,
Structured Framemaker-to-PDF problem, noticed using 7.0 and 7.2.
We use head elements as headers of generic sections.
The layout of the head depends on the context and is defined with a
level rule in the EDD.
All levels also have a context label Level1, Level2 etc. defined
Seems to me that Illustrator is either changing the page size or that
the graphic has been this way earlier but moved (manually?) within
FM's anchored frame.
IMHO, if you change the page size in AI to fit the graphic, that could
do the trick.
If you have the original AI or EPS graphics (from
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
So, will this process work: FrameMaker 5.5.6 Word/RTF InDesign? (I
don't have InDesign or any InDesign experience.)
Sure, but I agree with Steve: remove the graphics first and then Place them
again in Indesign. Since they're referenced, this shouldn't be a problem.
Look into the MIF-to-ID tool now in beta test phase from DTP Tools:
http://www.dtptools.com/product.asp?id=mfid
Regards,
Peter Gold
KnowHow ProServices
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Kenneth C. Benson wrote:
...
Indesign 2.0 was kind of primitive. IDCS2 offers anchored objects. I don't
think ID2 could anchor (but it's been awhile), so she might want to consider
upgrading first.
...
Anchored objects are a very new feature of IDCS2. The DOC/RTF import
filter of IDCS2
From: Wolfgang Kühn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I agree totally with Steve: ID2.0 was very primitive
Then you agree with Ken, not Steve. Although Steve may also hold those
sentiments, he didn't say anything about ID2.
Kenneth Benson
Pegasus Type, Inc.
www.pegtype.com
Hi
I am using unstructured Framemaker 7.2
All my FM book files contain all master pages, all variables, all reference
pages etc. This means that if you accidentially copy formats from one file to
anoter nothing will go wrong.
My edition number in the footer is simply a global variable. Now
You can't directly import Visio files because FrameMaker
doesn't have a filter to convert such files to FrameMaker's
limited graphics model (or for that matter to EPS).
- Dov
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On Behalf Of Shmuel Wolfson
Dov,
Sorry I didn't get back to you earlier. I've been using SnagIt 6.2 to
capture images. The hard issue I've been having is in creating captures
that can be placed on the Web. Some of these include simple line that I
need to resize, drawings that also include text. It hasn't been easy to
find a
On Wed, 31 Jan 2007, Andersen, Verner Engell VEA wrote:
All my FM book files contain all master pages, all variables, all
reference pages etc. This means that if you accidentially copy formats
from one file to anoter nothing will go wrong.
My edition number in the footer is simply a global
At 22:49 +0100 30/1/07, Michael Zaichenko wrote:
Set the last paragraph of the source document to Run-In. It will solve the
problem.
And indeed it does!
--
Steve
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At 10:34 -0500 31/1/07, Kenneth C. Benson wrote
I agree totally with Steve: ID2.0 was very primitive
Then you agree with Ken, not Steve. Although Steve may also hold those
sentiments, he didn't say anything about ID2.
Yeah, I was wondering about this, especially as I'm still on InD 2.0 ;-)
Could you use the system variable for Modification Date instead of an
edition number?
That'd be equally easy for 'em to track.
Art
On 1/31/07, Andersen, Verner Engell VEA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi
I am using unstructured Framemaker 7.2
All my FM book files contain all master pages, all
At 08:37 -0800 31/1/07, Frank Stearns wrote:
I routinely use what I call a reference or resource file. It's not part of
the printed book, but other files cross-reference to this file for various
bits of info, such as version info, part #, etc.
You could list your edition info for each chapter
Oh dear god, I'd never actually use OLE, I was just listing it as the
one problem that another user was experiencing. Importing by
reference is the only way to go, especially if you have to do
localization.
As for the hardware, we'd planned on new dual core systems and our
type of
Nope. The em dash character I'm concerned with appears in headings,
subheadings and body text and uses different fonts, sizes, etc. Copying
the character format copies all those character attributes. I need a way
to copy just one attribute and leave the others As Is. I can (and have
been) do this
Thanks! I wait with bated breath.
I'm looking into whether I manipulate the MIF files somehow. If I get that to
work, I'll let you know.
-Original Message-
From: Michael Zaichenko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 9:27 AM
To: Alison Carrico
Cc:
I appreciate the response, but that's not quite the problem. The em
dash character doesn't have a unique character tag. It's just tagged
with the paragraph format and any character tag applied to the text
around it (bold, emphasis, etc.). I'm trying to isolate the em dash b/c
it presents a
From: Steve Rickaby [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Still, useful to know about the better features of CS2: I'll upgrade just
as soon as another InD project comes in.
Footnotes were another big one they added with CS2. ID still doesn't come
close to Frame in terms of automation, but with every release they
Hi All,
(FM7.2 on WinXP) Our templates and style guide have the graphics and tables
left-aligned with captions. However, when the figure is an integrated graphic
in a procedure, it looks a bit odd to have the figure and caption all the way
over against the left edge of the text frame when
Try setting the Anchored Frame to centered and the width of the text
column. Then set the left indent of the graphic to the indent of the
preceding tag.
Art
On 1/31/07, Rene Stephenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi All,
(FM7.2 on WinXP) Our templates and style guide have the graphics and
Hi there,
FM 7.1 Win XP SP2, Acrobat 7.0 Pitstop 7.0.
I'm making a PDF file from FM file that contains TIFF images (bitmap) RGB
equivalent (Black and white). When converting to Gray in Acrobat with
Pitstop a gray box appears around the art. Though it is possible to remove
the box it is not
Given that the only variable appears to be Pitstop 6
versus Pitstop 7, maybe you should contact Enfocus'
tech support or post on their user forums.
(FWIW, my experience is that Pitstop 7 is not quite
as stable as Pitstop 6.)
Note that Acrobat Pro (7 or 8) does contain an option
for global color
I couldn't find it.
Is there a shortcut key combination (FM 7.0) for Paste Special?
In MSWord, I created a shortcut key to Paste Special Unformatted Text.
Now that I am working in FM (again - finally, after 6 long years) - I find
I need to copy a lot of content from previous versions of
Thanks - but that doesn't affect the figure caption. I think my original
question got too convoluted (sorry). I'm trying to figure out how to get the
paragraph for the figure caption to indent relative to the preceding
paragraph...without having to manually change the settings in the paragraph
Thanks Dov,
I noticed this instability. Don't know if I should switch back to 6.0.
On Global conversion in 7. I'll try this one. Might solve my problem.
Michael
From: Dov Isaacs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Michael Zaichenko [EMAIL PROTECTED],
framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: GRAY
Because 7.0 has some issues with line art smoothing and font embeding and
display.
After some experiments I reverted to 6.
Michael
From: Fred Ridder [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: GRAY BOXES IN PDF
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 14:35:08 -0500
It may not relate to your problem,
My preferred approach is to change the default behavior when pasting
from the clipboard to be plain text. That way you only have to use Paste
Special when you want to do something else (e.g. pasting a Word table
as RTF). You do this by modifying the ClipboardFormatPriorites item in
maker.ini. I
You probably have Quick Menu turned on instead of Complete.
Change the setting under the View menu, then look for Paste Special on
the Edit menu.
Shortcut is Esc, e,s,t
Art
On 1/31/07, John Pilla [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I couldn't find it.
Is there a shortcut key combination (FM 7.0) for
Fugly = effin' ugly :-)
-Original Message-
From: Steve Rickaby
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 9:50 AM
Subject: Re: QA wants unique edition number in changed footers
At 08:37 -0800 31/1/07, Frank Stearns wrote:
GH: SNIP
If you consider the latter option, beware of a FrameMaker
Hi Caroline
Thanks for that, but unfortunately - as Niels thought - it doesn't work
in this situation. We have text like this:
parameter1 option1 parameter2 parameter3 option3
where option1 and option3 need to be in italics. And the number of
parameters and options varies.
I have a nasty
If the options are redundant/replicated two options I can think of are:
1: A variable for each option, as variables can contain formatting
2: An inset for each option.
Or perhaps I'm missing a bit
Grant
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--- Andersen, Verner Engell VEA
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Have you any idea of how I can have the various
edition numbers in footer of each chapter page and
still have the possibility of importing all formats
from all files without messing things up?
==
This kind of
I have a little different technique for figures here. I have set up a
Table format with title below, the paragraph format having the word
Figure in the numbering scheme. It is a one-row one-column table,
with no borders into which I place my graphic reference. This allows me
to refer to it by
Rene Stephenson wrote:
Thanks - but that doesn't affect the figure caption. I think my
original question got too convoluted (sorry). I'm trying to figure
out how to get the paragraph for the figure caption to indent
relative to the preceding paragraph...without having to manually
change the
rebecca officer wrote:
I just wondered if anyone has a trick that lets you make a
cross-reference to something that includes character-tagged
text, and preserve the character tag in the cross-reference?
We document commands, and some of them have italics in part
of the command syntax.
Yes, that is one way to do it...Thanks, Stuart.
Rene
Stuart Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Rene Stephenson wrote:
Thanks - but that doesn't affect the figure caption. I think my
original question got too convoluted (sorry). I'm trying to figure
out how to get the paragraph for the figure
Thanks Richard!
I did the quick test (Courier - Courier New) and it didn't preserve
the italics but did preserve the different font in the xref. So the bits
that I wanted to have Courier New italics were Courier New. That's a lot
closer than I was before!
So by the look of it, I need to
I also prefer Fred's method.
But if you still need a keyboard shortcut, it's Ctrl-Shift-V
Seraphim Larsen, Senior Technical Writer
Intel Corporation • DEG/ECG/Ops/TechComm • Chandler, AZ
My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
On 1/31/07, Fred Ridder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My
All:
A former client of mine has a thesis with many graphics imported by
reference into FrameMaker 5.5.6 running in Classic Mac 9.1 on
PowerMacintosh. She wants to convert them to InDesign v. 2.0. I
suggested that she save to Mac Word 4, 5, or 6, or to RTF using the
Japanese converter, in
Will:
> he had
> some OLE issues but that is not surprising.
You don't need OLE. Import graphics by reference. If you double-click on
them, they will open in the associated graphics program.
Regards,
Hedley
--
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Training Content Developer and Tools Specialist
MYOB Australia Pty
Hi everyone
I just wondered if anyone has a trick that lets you make a
cross-reference to something that includes character-tagged text, and
preserve the character tag in the cross-reference?
We document commands, and some of them have italics in part of the
command syntax. In the associated
Shot in the dark, but if that FrameMaker file or a previous version of it
was ever run through Webworks to create some form of online help, then under
the \temp folder you'll find a mif version of it.
Paul
-Original Message-
From:
>I would like to apply a character tag to a particular character that is
>used in paragraphs of several different styles without changing the rest
>of the attributes. As far as I can tell, Frame only lets me change
>character attributes, not tags.
If I understand, the problem is to change OldTag
I think you would need to make a special cross reference style that you use
just to create the cross references to the commands.
Then define for that cross reference style that the characters should appear
in italics (i.e. use for the cross reference the character tag that is used for
the
Hi,
That isn't going to work - Rebeccas problem is that only part of the
text-to-be-referenced is in italics.
I'm not sure there is a solution to this...
-Niels
-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+nfa=maconomy.dk at lists.frameusers.com
At 15:19 +1100 31/1/07, hedley.finger at myob.com wrote:
>A former client of mine has a thesis with many graphics imported by
>reference into FrameMaker 5.5.6 running in Classic Mac 9.1 on
>PowerMacintosh. She wants to convert them to InDesign v. 2.0. I
>suggested that she save to Mac Word 4,
Strange.
I find importing Visio files as OLE objects (from Visio 2000 to FM 7.2)
to work just fine. When I try to File>Insert>File (by reference) it
doesn't recognize the Visio file format, and Visio is not in the list.
Perhaps my version of Visio is too old.
Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson
T.W.
Lodewijk,
You wrote:
>... In the result so far we notice that not only
>
>head(Level1)
>head(Level2)
>head(Level3)
>
>appears as bookmark but also
>
>head(Level1)TOC
>head(Level2)TOC
>head(Level3)TOC
>
>It is as if head(Level1), head(Level3), head(Level3) have a wildcard so
>that also
Hello all,
Structured Framemaker-to-PDF problem, noticed using 7.0 and 7.2.
We use "head" elements as headers of generic "sections".
The layout of the "head" depends on the context and is defined with a
"level rule" in the EDD.
All levels also have a context label Level1, Level2 etc.
Seems to me that Illustrator is either changing the page size or that
the graphic has been this way earlier but moved (manually?) within
FM's anchored frame.
IMHO, if you change the page size in AI to fit the graphic, that could
do the trick.
If you have the original AI or EPS graphics (from
An approach I've used a lot when I don't have the source files for
graphics in a Word file I need to convert to FrameMaker is to
select just the graphic and use the Selection option and the
Adobe PDF printer in the Print dialog to make a PDF of the
graphic. I then open the PDF in Acrobat sand
From:
> So, will this process work: FrameMaker 5.5.6 > Word/RTF > InDesign? (I
don't have InDesign or any InDesign experience.)
Sure, but I agree with Steve: remove the graphics first and then Place them
again in Indesign. Since they're referenced, this shouldn't be a
Look into the MIF-to-ID tool now in beta test phase from DTP Tools:
http://www.dtptools.com/product.asp?id=mfid
Regards,
Peter Gold
KnowHow ProServices
Kenneth C. Benson wrote:
> ...
> Indesign 2.0 was kind of primitive. IDCS2 offers anchored objects. I don't
> think ID2 could anchor (but it's been awhile), so she might want to consider
> upgrading first.
> ...
>
Anchored objects are a very new feature of IDCS2. The DOC/RTF import
filter of
Dov,
Sorry I didn't get back to you earlier. I've been using SnagIt 6.2 to
capture images. The hard issue I've been having is in creating captures
that can be placed on the Web. Some of these include simple line that I
need to resize, drawings that also include text. It hasn't been easy to
find a
On Wed, 31 Jan 2007, Andersen, Verner Engell VEA wrote:
> All my FM book files contain all master pages, all variables, all
> reference pages etc. This means that if you accidentially copy formats
> from one file to anoter nothing will go wrong.
>
> My edition number in the footer is simply a
At 22:49 +0100 30/1/07, Michael Zaichenko wrote:
>Set the last paragraph of the source document to Run-In. It will solve the
>problem.
And indeed it does!
--
Steve
At 10:34 -0500 31/1/07, Kenneth C. Benson wrote
> > I agree totally with Steve: ID2.0 was very primitive
>
>Then you agree with Ken, not Steve. Although Steve may also hold those
>sentiments, he didn't say anything about ID2.
Yeah, I was wondering about this, especially as I'm still on InD 2.0
Could you use the system variable for Modification Date instead of an
edition number?
That'd be equally easy for 'em to track.
Art
On 1/31/07, Andersen, Verner Engell VEA
wrote:
>
> Hi
> I am using unstructured Framemaker 7.2
>
> All my FM book files contain all master pages, all variables,
At 08:37 -0800 31/1/07, Frank Stearns wrote:
>I routinely use what I call a "reference" or "resource" file. It's not part of
>the printed book, but other files cross-reference to this file for various
>bits of info, such as version info, part #, etc.
>
>You could list your edition info for each
Oh dear god, I'd never actually use OLE, I was just listing it as the
one problem that another user was experiencing. Importing by
reference is the only way to go, especially if you have to do
localization.
As for the hardware, we'd planned on new dual core systems and our
type of
Nope. The em dash character I'm concerned with appears in headings,
subheadings and body text and uses different fonts, sizes, etc. Copying
the character format copies all those character attributes. I need a way
to copy just one attribute and leave the others "As Is". I can (and have
been) do
Thanks! I wait with bated breath.
I'm looking into whether I manipulate the MIF files somehow. If I get that to
work, I'll let you know.
-Original Message-
From: Michael Zaichenko [mailto:biozaiche...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 9:27 AM
To: Alison Carrico
Cc:
I appreciate the response, but that's not quite the problem. The em
dash character doesn't have a unique character tag. It's just tagged
with the paragraph format and any character tag applied to the text
around it (bold, emphasis, etc.). I'm trying to isolate the em dash b/c
it presents a
From: "Steve Rickaby"
> Still, useful to know about the better features of CS2: I'll upgrade just
as soon as another InD project comes in.
Footnotes were another big one they added with CS2. ID still doesn't come
close to Frame in terms of automation, but with
Hi there,
FM 7.1 Win XP SP2, Acrobat 7.0 Pitstop 7.0.
I'm making a PDF file from FM file that contains TIFF images (bitmap) RGB
equivalent (Black and white). When converting to Gray in Acrobat with
Pitstop a gray box appears around the art. Though it is possible to remove
the box it is not
I couldn't find it.
Is there a shortcut key combination (FM 7.0) for Paste Special?
In MSWord, I created a shortcut key to Paste Special > Unformatted Text.
Now that I am working in FM (again - finally, after 6 long years) - I find
I need to copy a lot of content from previous versions of
Thanks - but that doesn't affect the figure caption. I think my original
question got too convoluted (sorry). I'm trying to figure out how to get the
paragraph for the figure caption to indent relative to the preceding
paragraph...without having to manually change the settings in the paragraph
Thanks Dov,
I noticed this instability. Don't know if I should switch back to 6.0.
On Global conversion in 7. I'll try this one. Might solve my problem.
Michael
>From: "Dov Isaacs"
>To: "Michael Zaichenko" ,
>
>Subject: RE: GRAY BOXES IN PDF
>Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 11:34:41 -0800
>
Because 7.0 has some issues with line art smoothing and font embeding and
display.
After some experiments I reverted to 6.
Michael
>From: "Fred Ridder"
>To: biozaichenko at hotmail.com
>Subject: RE: GRAY BOXES IN PDF
>Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 14:35:08 -0500
>
>It may not relate to your problem,
My preferred approach is to change the default behavior when pasting
from the clipboard to be plain text. That way you only have to use Paste
Special when you want to do something else (e.g. pasting a Word table
as RTF). You do this by modifying the ClipboardFormatPriorites item in
maker.ini. I
You probably have Quick Menu turned on instead of Complete.
Change the setting under the View menu, then look for Paste Special on
the Edit menu.
Shortcut is Esc, e,s,t
Art
On 1/31/07, John Pilla wrote:
> I couldn't find it.
> Is there a shortcut key combination (FM 7.0) for Paste Special?
>
Fugly = "effin' ugly" :-)
-Original Message-
From: Steve Rickaby
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 9:50 AM
Subject: Re: QA wants unique edition number in changed footers
At 08:37 -0800 31/1/07, Frank Stearns wrote:
>If you consider the latter option, beware of a FrameMaker 'gotcha'
If the options are redundant/replicated two options I can think of are:
1: A variable for each option, as variables can contain formatting
2: An inset for each option.
Or perhaps I'm missing a bit
Grant
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Senior Technical Writer
Equis
--- "Andersen, Verner Engell VEA"
wrote:
> Have you any idea of how I can have the various
> edition numbers in footer of each chapter page and
> still have the possibility of importing all formats
> from all files without messing things up?
==
This kind of dilemma can
I have a little different technique for figures here. I have set up a
Table format with title below, the paragraph format having the word
"Figure" in the numbering scheme. It is a one-row one-column table,
with no borders into which I place my graphic reference. This allows me
to refer to it by
Rene Stephenson wrote:
> Thanks - but that doesn't affect the figure caption. I think my
> original question got too convoluted (sorry). I'm trying to figure
> out how to get the paragraph for the figure caption to indent
> relative to the preceding paragraph...without having to manually
> change
rebecca officer wrote:
> I just wondered if anyone has a trick that lets you make a
> cross-reference to something that includes character-tagged
> text, and preserve the character tag in the cross-reference?
>
> We document commands, and some of them have italics in part
> of the command
Yes, that is one way to do it...Thanks, Stuart.
Rene
Stuart Rogers wrote:
Rene Stephenson wrote:
> Thanks - but that doesn't affect the figure caption. I think my
> original question got too convoluted (sorry). I'm trying to figure
> out how to get the paragraph for the figure caption to
rebecca officer wrote:
> Got it!!
>
> For anyone else who wants to do the same, the solution was:
>
> 1. Close FM.
>
> 2. Back up maker.ini, then in the [WindowsToFrameFontAliases]
> section of maker.ini, replace this line:
> Courier, Italic, *=Courier, Oblique, *, Regular with this line:
>
I also prefer Fred's method.
But if you still need a keyboard shortcut, it's Ctrl-Shift-V
Seraphim Larsen, Senior Technical Writer
Intel Corporation ? DEG/ECG/Ops/TechComm ? Chandler, AZ
My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
On 1/31/07, Fred Ridder wrote:
> My preferred approach is to
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