I've written documentation in the Detroit area for over 20 years and
although I know structured Frame and use a custom XML format with Epic
Editor/Manager in my present position, I find that most employers here
hardly know what FrameMaker is, let alone anything about structured Frame
and/or XML/reu
I've written documentation in the Detroit area for over 20 years and
although I know structured Frame and use a custom XML format with Epic
Editor/Manager in my present position, I find that most employers here
hardly know what FrameMaker is, let alone anything about structured Frame
and/or XML/reu
Thanks for all your suggestions.
I think I'll better get to analyse the paragraph formats and use the T:Table
cum 'Continue Paragraph Numbering from Previous File' format.
In addition to the one big book, I do have separate books for each guide to
generate lists. I'll handle the LOT
Thanks for all your suggestions.
I think I'll better get to analyse the paragraph formats and use the T:Table
cum 'Continue Paragraph Numbering from Previous File' format.
In addition to the one big book, I do have separate books for each guide to
generate lists. I'll handle the LOT too w
At 09:36 -0600 15/2/07, Michael D. Conner wrote:
>Sometimes, however, I've seen problems with figure numbers not incrementing
>correctly. It seems to occur because the text frame with the caption is not
>quite correctly placed within the anchored frame. I can cure this by cutting
>the text frame,
Kara,
Are you printing the guide or delivering in .PDF format, or something else?
Do the drawings have to stay full-size or can you reduce them, like to
11x17 so they'd fit better?
My first thought is to create an FM document template with 11x17
pages. Then create a discrete FM file for each drawi
First, thank you to all who have responded so far. I haven't yet had an
opportunity to evaluate and implement your suggestions, but I certainly will. I
had thought of doing what Eric Dunne suggested, but had held off trying that
solution.
Second, I should have identified the location of the fig
Hi,
You said that your numbered paragraphs are in "text boxes".
Do you mean text frames? These won't be in the same text flow
as your regular text. Therefore that might account for any
pecularities.
Best regards
Winfried
> I am having a problem numbering figures in service manuals
> developed
I'm on the FM-DITA mailing list Art, and was invovled about a year or two
ago when it was just starting out.
I still keep on top of things, but in my last place we switched to AuthorIT
as it meet our needs. My current position already has a structured
FrameMaker setup, so I've missed the chance t
Hello-
I'm working on a Service Guide where I need to include a significant number
of schematics and Engineering drawings.
Does anyone have a reader-friendly and easy way to include oversized
schematics and drawings in a FrameMaker book?
I'll be receiving the files in PDF format (size is 22"
Jeremy H. Griffith wrote:
Isn't that a tad harsh, Russ? My point, which you appear to have
missed, is that (as Richard said) semantic markup is good, *and*
that you can do it in unstructured Frame. Do you deny this fact?
Wholeheartedly. Semantic markup only exists if it is expressed in a wa
Michael D. Conner wrote:
>
>
> on 2/15/07 12:21 PM, Combs, Richard at richard.combs at Polycom.com wrote:
>
>> Don't put the figure caption in a text frame inside your anchored frame
>> -- as Winfried noted, that puts it in a different text flow.
>
> This is incorrect. A text frame inside an an
Very strange. I should have done more testing. I swear that the only
instance I checked before spouting off is the way I wrote. In rechecking, I
found subsequent text frames in anchored frames didn't have flow tags. I
checked another report and couldn't find any text frames in anchored frames
with
Combs, Richard wrote:
> You say you have too many tags to check, but surely only a few have
> autonumbers. And most of those are probably numbered list formats that
> are restarted by some mechanism other than the start of a new chapter.
> Do these guides have numbered figures or headings? It real
First, thank you to all who have responded so far. I haven't yet had an
opportunity to evaluate and implement your suggestions, but I certainly will. I
had thought of doing what Eric Dunne suggested, but had held off trying that
solution.
Second, I should have identified the location of the fig
Kara,
Are you printing the guide or delivering in .PDF format, or something else?
Do the drawings have to stay full-size or can you reduce them, like to
11x17 so they'd fit better?
My first thought is to create an FM document template with 11x17
pages. Then create a discrete FM file for each draw
Very strange. I should have done more testing. I swear that the only
instance I checked before spouting off is the way I wrote. In rechecking, I
found subsequent text frames in anchored frames didn't have flow tags. I
checked another report and couldn't find any text frames in anchored frames
with
Hello-
I'm working on a Service Guide where I need to include a significant number
of schematics and Engineering drawings.
Does anyone have a reader-friendly and easy way to include oversized
schematics and drawings in a FrameMaker book?
I'll be receiving the files in PDF format (size is 22
At 20:21 -0800 14/2/07, Howard Rauch wrote:
>When I use the "Go to Page" in my client's manuals, the software goes to that
>page and immediately reverts to page 1. I must repeat the process to get the
>software to go to the desired page and stay there. Any suggestions?
This sounds like the 'scr
Michael D. Conner wrote:
> on 2/15/07 12:21 PM, Combs, Richard at
> richard.combs at Polycom.com wrote:
>
> > Don't put the figure caption in a text frame inside your anchored
> > frame
> > -- as Winfried noted, that puts it in a different text flow.
>
> This is incorrect. A text frame inside
"If you work in the tech industry and don't have time to learn, your fate is
sealed."
I know what you are saying, but you are presuming that learning how to use a
technology is more important than learning whether or not that technology is
cost-effective to me in my current situation.
On top of t
Well,
The correct way to do it is to use the method you're reluctant to use:
"TableTitle with T:Table : format and use 'Continue from Previous
File in Book' for Paragraph Numbering"
So long as no other paragraphs use the T: numbering track and you
change the method in the book file to set the par
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on 2/15/07 12:21 PM, Combs, Richard at richard.combs at Polycom.com wrote:
> Don't put the figure caption in a text frame inside your anchored frame
> -- as Winfried noted, that puts it in a different text flow.
This is incorrect. A text frame inside an anchored frame has the same Flow
Tag as
You won't like my answer, but it's the only solution I've found to the
problem you describe.
You need to make a copy of the file, delete all anchored frames, then open
the copy and working file side by side.
In the copy, use find to locate each anchored frame.
For each anchored frame, create a N
Michael D. Conner wrote:
> on 2/15/07 12:21 PM, Combs, Richard at
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > Don't put the figure caption in a text frame inside your anchored
> > frame
> > -- as Winfried noted, that puts it in a different text flow.
>
> This is incorrect. A text frame inside an anchor
Michael D. Conner wrote:
on 2/15/07 12:21 PM, Combs, Richard at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Don't put the figure caption in a text frame inside your anchored frame
-- as Winfried noted, that puts it in a different text flow.
This is incorrect. A text frame inside an anchored frame has the same
on 2/15/07 12:21 PM, Combs, Richard at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Don't put the figure caption in a text frame inside your anchored frame
> -- as Winfried noted, that puts it in a different text flow.
This is incorrect. A text frame inside an anchored frame has the same Flow
Tag as the text co
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Combs, Richard wrote:
You say you have too many tags to check, but surely only a few have
autonumbers. And most of those are probably numbered list formats that
are restarted by some mechanism other than the start of a new chapter.
Do these guides have numbered figures or headings? It really sho
Radha Padmanabhan wrote:
> I have a big book with 5 Guides which in turn have some 10s
> of chapters as .fm files. I have to build a List ot Tables
> for each guide. My problem is how to serially number the
> tables across a specific set of chapters. That is, I have to
> serially number the
Howard Rauch wrote:
> Figures are automatically numbered using a Figure tag for
> which the automatic numbering format X:Figure (developed
> by the client). Most are smaller in-column figures with a
> ruling line around the figure frame. In previous versions of
> the manuals, the client had
After reading Richard's post, I realized that I need to put my
suggestion in context -- I should have said to include the building
blocks on the reference page for your LOF, not as part of a running
head-footer or a component of a page number variable.
So to create the compound listing you want in
Hi Framers
I seem to be stuck in a strange problem.
I have defined Navy color in Frame : "Process", "100, 100, 42, 0"
when i create the pdf with windows based framemaker 7.1 : things work fine
when i create the pdf with solaris based framemaker 7.1: the color
definition seems to have changed. It a
Hello All,
I hope there is someone who can help me with this (in my opinion)
strange action.
For a customer we have created a publication in structured framemaker.
This customer now wants this very same publication also in un-structured
framemaker.
Is there a way to convert my structured docum
Radha Padmanabhan wrote:
> I have a big book with 5 Guides which in turn have some 10s
> of chapters as .fm files. I have to build a List ot Tables
> for each guide. My problem is how to serially number the
> tables across a specific set of chapters. That is, I have to
> serially number
At 09:36 -0600 15/2/07, Michael D. Conner wrote:
>Sometimes, however, I've seen problems with figure numbers not incrementing
>correctly. It seems to occur because the text frame with the caption is not
>quite correctly placed within the anchored frame. I can cure this by cutting
>the text frame,
Well,
The correct way to do it is to use the method you're reluctant to use:
"TableTitle with T:Table : format and use 'Continue from Previous
File in Book' for Paragraph Numbering"
So long as no other paragraphs use the T: numbering track and you
change the method in the book file to set the pa
Howard Rauch wrote:
> Figures are automatically numbered using a Figure tag for
> which the automatic numbering format X:Figure (developed
> by the client). Most are smaller in-column figures with a
> ruling line around the figure frame. In previous versions of
> the manuals, the client ha
If you work for a company that doesn't accept qualified recommendations for
improvement from its staff, you should keep a resume up-to-date. No company can
last too long if it doesn't embrace innovation from the lower levels.
I think the truth is, actually, that in the majority of cases, tech wr
I'm on the FM-DITA mailing list Art, and was invovled about a year or two
ago when it was just starting out.
I still keep on top of things, but in my last place we switched to AuthorIT
as it meet our needs. My current position already has a structured
FrameMaker setup, so I've missed the chance t
Hello,
Am using FrameMaker 7.0 with Windows XP.
Coincidentally my question is also related to numbering and list as it is
with some others in the list now.
I have a big book with 5 Guides which in turn have some 10s of chapters as
.fm files. I have to build a List ot Tables for
This may be being caused by having a mixture of graphic frames and anchored
frames or text frames poorly placed in anchored frames.
I use a similar system for academic books and reports. Graphics are placed
in anchored frames with a text frame within it for the caption. In doing a
limited test, I
I think you're looking for <$paranumonly> or <$paranum[Figure]>
Art
On 2/14/07, Randall C. Reed wrote:
> I slept through this part of Professor O'Keefe's lecture on using
> building blocks when making generated lists, so I'm stumped on what
> should be very easy:
>
> I'm doing an LOF that needs
You won't like my answer, but it's the only solution I've found to the
problem you describe.
You need to make a copy of the file, delete all anchored frames, then open
the copy and working file side by side.
In the copy, use find to locate each anchored frame.
For each anchored frame, create a N
Thanks to all who offered suggestions for fixing my x-ref problem.
Once I followed Richard's instructions for managing the unavailable
fonts messages, the x-ref messages went away.
Richard, I turned off Remember Missing Font Names, saved and closed
everything, turned Remember... back on, and ev
This may be being caused by having a mixture of graphic frames and anchored
frames or text frames poorly placed in anchored frames.
I use a similar system for academic books and reports. Graphics are placed
in anchored frames with a text frame within it for the caption. In doing a
limited test, I
If you work for a company that doesn't accept qualified recommendations for
improvement from its staff, you should keep a resume up-to-date. No company can
last too long if it doesn't embrace innovation from the lower levels.
I think the truth is, actually, that in the majority of cases, tech wr
Russ West says: "It is so important for any tech writer to learn about
structured content..."
The funny thing is, in the majority of cases, we are not in a position
to proselytize for or against structured documentation. That's usually
decided several pay grades higher by contract deliverable or o
Anneke,
In structured FrameMaker, attributes on elements manage the connection
between the cross-reference and its source. In unstructured Frame, part of
this connection is done with a Cross-Ref marker. When you remove the
structure, you will not have the necessary Cross-Ref markers, so you wil
All the reasons to use structured FrameMaker that people have submitted
focus on the net benefits, which is probably the main reason why you
would do this. However, here's a complementary take on it. As a lone
writer, I did all the work to write an EDD and convert my unstructured
doc to structu
Howard,
Take a look at this
http://www.frameexpert.com/plugins/runaroundnone/
Unfortunately, the link to the Adobe tech note is dead, but apparently the
problem still exists in some FrameMaker documents. Please let me know if you
have any questions or comments. Thanks.
Rick Quatro
Carmen Publ
A couple things to check:
First, have you verified that no other tags are using the X: numbering
track? Having another tag using the same track involved will screw up
the numbering in no time.
Second, check the numbering properties for the files to make sure that
para numbering is set to incremen
You may want to look over, and play with, the FM DITA plug in. It's a
structured tool, obviously, but seems to be a rationally usable tool
rather than an entire philosophy.
Art
On 2/15/07, Gordon McLean wrote:
> "If you work in the tech industry and don't have time to learn, your fate is
> seale
>> When I use the "Go to Page" in my client's manuals, the software goes to
>> that
>> page and immediately reverts to page 1. I must repeat the process to get
>> the
>> software to go to the desired page and stay there. Any suggestions?
As others have mentioned, it sounds like you've hit the sc
One more reason, at least for my team, and I did not see this in the thread
(not directly said, anyway) is that we have a totally diff publishing model
here at FedEx. Our model is stood on its head, so to speak. By that, I mean
that our small group of writers function as a 'service bureau'. We are
Randall C. Reed wrote:
> I'm doing an LOF that needs to be:
>
> tab tab
>
> Where the Page Number is a compound running H/F = ( -
> )
>
> I got <$pagenum>, but that just gets me the last half.
>
> What building block do I use to get both parts of the running H/F?
That's not what you want
After reading Richard's post, I realized that I need to put my
suggestion in context -- I should have said to include the building
blocks on the reference page for your LOF, not as part of a running
head-footer or a component of a page number variable.
So to create the compound listing you want i
Matt's question is, to some degree, academic and as a result list members
have made many valid points, some totally at odds with others. (Isn't that
the point of academia? :) In practice, the questions are: What will
structure do for *my* problems and what will it cost to implement?
I said the fo
Matt's question is, to some degree, academic and as a result list members
have made many valid points, some totally at odds with others. (Isn't that
the point of academia? :) In practice, the questions are: What will
structure do for *my* problems and what will it cost to implement?
I said the fol
Hello,
Am using FrameMaker 7.0 with Windows XP.
Coincidentally my question is also related to numbering and list as it is
with some others in the list now.
I have a big book with 5 Guides which in turn have some 10s of chapters as
.fm files. I have to build a List ot Tables for each gui
Randall C. Reed wrote:
> I'm doing an LOF that needs to be:
>
> tab tab
>
> Where the Page Number is a compound running H/F = ( -
> )
>
> I got <$pagenum>, but that just gets me the last half.
>
> What building block do I use to get both parts of the running H/F?
That's not what you want
Russ West says: "It is so important for any tech writer to learn about
structured content..."
The funny thing is, in the majority of cases, we are not in a position
to proselytize for or against structured documentation. That's usually
decided several pay grades higher by contract deliverable or o
All the reasons to use structured FrameMaker that people have submitted
focus on the net benefits, which is probably the main reason why you
would do this. However, here's a complementary take on it. As a lone
writer, I did all the work to write an EDD and convert my unstructured
doc to structu
Hi,
You said that your numbered paragraphs are in "text boxes".
Do you mean text frames? These won't be in the same text flow
as your regular text. Therefore that might account for any
pecularities.
Best regards
Winfried
> I am having a problem numbering figures in service manuals
> developed
I think you're looking for <$paranumonly> or <$paranum[Figure]>
Art
On 2/14/07, Randall C. Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I slept through this part of Professor O'Keefe's lecture on using
building blocks when making generated lists, so I'm stumped on what
should be very easy:
I'm doing an LOF
Thanks to all who offered suggestions for fixing my x-ref problem.
Once I followed Richard's instructions for managing the unavailable
fonts messages, the x-ref messages went away.
Richard, I turned off Remember Missing Font Names, saved and closed
everything, turned Remember... back on, and ev
When I use the "Go to Page" in my client's manuals, the software goes to
that
page and immediately reverts to page 1. I must repeat the process to get
the
software to go to the desired page and stay there. Any suggestions?
As others have mentioned, it sounds like you've hit the scrollback bug.
One more reason, at least for my team, and I did not see this in the thread
(not directly said, anyway) is that we have a totally diff publishing model
here at FedEx. Our model is stood on its head, so to speak. By that, I mean
that our small group of writers function as a 'service bureau'. We are
Jeremy, I don't think that is harsh at all. What I think is harsh is the
constant discouragement from learning and professional development from certain
members of this list. It is so important for any tech writer to learn about
structured content, and I do not think I am any smarter than anyon
Anneke,
In structured FrameMaker, attributes on elements manage the connection
between the cross-reference and its source. In unstructured Frame, part of
this connection is done with a Cross-Ref marker. When you remove the
structure, you will not have the necessary Cross-Ref markers, so you wi
Howard,
Take a look at this
http://www.frameexpert.com/plugins/runaroundnone/
Unfortunately, the link to the Adobe tech note is dead, but apparently the
problem still exists in some FrameMaker documents. Please let me know if you
have any questions or comments. Thanks.
Rick Quatro
Carmen Pu
A couple things to check:
First, have you verified that no other tags are using the X: numbering
track? Having another tag using the same track involved will screw up
the numbering in no time.
Second, check the numbering properties for the files to make sure that
para numbering is set to increme
At 20:21 -0800 14/2/07, Howard Rauch wrote:
>When I use the "Go to Page" in my client's manuals, the software goes to that
>page and immediately reverts to page 1. I must repeat the process to get the
>software to go to the desired page and stay there. Any suggestions?
This sounds like the 'scr
You may want to look over, and play with, the FM DITA plug in. It's a
structured tool, obviously, but seems to be a rationally usable tool
rather than an entire philosophy.
Art
On 2/15/07, Gordon McLean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
"If you work in the tech industry and don't have time to learn, y
"If you work in the tech industry and don't have time to learn, your fate is
sealed."
I know what you are saying, but you are presuming that learning how to use a
technology is more important than learning whether or not that technology is
cost-effective to me in my current situation.
On top of t
Hello All,
I hope there is someone who can help me with this (in my opinion)
strange action.
For a customer we have created a publication in structured framemaker.
This customer now wants this very same publication also in un-structured
framemaker.
Is there a way to convert my structured docu
This is more of a nuisance than a problem, but it does indicate that something
is wrong with the FrameMaker file.
When I use the "Go to Page" in my client's manuals, the software goes to that
page and immediately reverts to page 1. I must repeat the process to get the
software to go to the desi
I am having a problem numbering figures in service manuals developed by my
client. The manuals are range from 3- to 40 pages. My job is to revise the
client's existing manuals to account for annual updates and design changes for
each of my client's products. We are both using FrameMaker 7.0 on a
I slept through this part of Professor O'Keefe's lecture on using
building blocks when making generated lists, so I'm stumped on what
should be very easy:
I'm doing an LOF that needs to be:
tab tab
Where the Page Number is a compound running H/F = ( -
)
I got <$pagenum>, but that just gets
Jeremy, I don't think that is harsh at all. What I think is harsh is the
constant discouragement from learning and professional development from certain
members of this list. It is so important for any tech writer to learn about
structured content, and I do not think I am any smarter than anyon
Okay, I'll rise to that bait. Nothing like a nice cheerful OT war.
I'll concede LaTeX's learning curve, and that its PDF support and font
management sucks. But it does absolutely gorgeous equations. Easily. And
it's got no bugs. And its bibliography engine is pretty cool.
It's not the tool for Ne
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