Re: [Framework-Team] Reworking the PLIP Lifecycle | discussion

2011-02-27 Thread Raphael Ritz
On 2/26/11 9:22 PM, Ross Patterson wrote: Alec Mitchellale...@gmail.com writes: On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 10:36 AM, Hanno Schlichtingha...@hannosch.eu wrote: On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 3:26 AM, Elizabeth Leddyele...@umich.edu wrote: Feel free to respond over email or just edit the document:

Re: [Framework-Team] Fwd: Re: [Plone] #9288: Improved commenting infrastructure

2010-12-08 Thread Raphael Ritz
Timo Stollenwerk wrote: Hi, Elizabeth came across a problem with p.a.discussion during her PLIP review: Authenticated users are currently not able to post a comment, they need the Member role to do so. Do we also want authenticated users to be able to post comments? Shall we just check for

Re: [Framework-Team] New releases in the Plone 3.3 series

2010-10-05 Thread Raphael Ritz
On 10/5/10 9:46 PM, Geir Bækholt wrote: The Plone 3 series has run for a longer time than anticipated, but there is still a demand for new releases. Our awesome release manager, Wichert, has, after a long series of successful releases, stated that he unfortunately doesn't have the time

Re: [Framework-Team] changing name of plone.app.event?

2010-09-28 Thread Raphael Ritz
Andreas Jung wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 plone.app.calendar is even more misleading since plone.app.event provides only the event core implementation but not calendar functionality (or?). I think plone.app.event is fine since Plone developers know of ATEvent and

Re: [Framework-Team] Zope 2.13 PLIP ready for review

2010-09-13 Thread Raphael Ritz
Hanno Schlichting wrote: On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 12:35 AM, Alexander Limi l...@plone.org wrote: Do we expect Plone 4.1 / Zope 2.13 to be using Python 2.7 by default? (makes sense to me, but not sure if it has other implications that I'm unaware of) See

Re: [Framework-Team] Zope 2.13 PLIP ready for review

2010-09-13 Thread Raphael Ritz
Laurence Rowe wrote: [..] While I would like to see Python 2.7 compatibility in a later Plone 4.x release, I would be uncomfortable requiring it during the 4.x line without very good reason I don't think anyone suggested *requiring* it still it would be nice to *support* it - at least in the

Re: [Framework-Team] [Plone-developers] Upcoming Plone 4.0 releases

2010-05-27 Thread Raphael Ritz
David Glick wrote: [..] If I recall, the main risks are that the migration may take a long time, and that the admin may not have properly configured blob-storage in their buildout. The migration itself is pretty well-tested, at least under Plone 3 -- Groundwire has migrated dozens of

Re: [Framework-Team] Notes from Joel on simplifying Plone

2010-01-14 Thread Raphael Ritz
Jon Stahl wrote: Hi FWT! Hi Jon, thanks for posting this! For now just one comment from my side: [..] - The apache-style buildout.cfg file is inherently intimidating to new site developers. At first, they just want any easy way to install add-on products. We used to have that -- just

[Framework-Team] #9310 got a baby (#9347)

2009-07-02 Thread Raphael Ritz
Hi, responding to our comments Duco has just broken out the user registration policy part from PLIP #9310 into #9347. So we have now http://dev.plone.org/plone/ticket/9310 User registration process more flexible only covering flexible member data and http://dev.plone.org/plone/ticket/9347

[Framework-Team] Re: PLIP Change Mailing List

2009-06-25 Thread Raphael Ritz
Martin Aspeli wrote: Steve McMahon wrote: All the 4.0 PLIPs now have plip-advisor...@lists.plone.org mailto:plip-advisor...@lists.plone.org in the CC list. If you want to subscribe, visit: http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/plip-advisories Most were added in the last few minutes, so

Re: [Framework-Team] [Plone 4] Framework team, let's talk...

2009-06-05 Thread Raphael Ritz
Calvin Hendryx-Parker wrote: Here is the link we used to start this process: http://www.doodle.com/ucb3w2fcqieken28 Based on the responses, generally folks are available Monday and Tuesday at 2:00PM US/Eastern time. This works for me, how about the rest? Sould be OK on my side as

[Framework-Team] Re: Plone 4 dependencies

2009-05-26 Thread Raphael Ritz
Wichert Akkerman wrote: I seem to remember the plan was to target Plone 4 for CMF 2.2 and Zope 2.11, but as you can see below that does not appear to be possible. So that means Zope 2.12 instead, right? Do we have an estimate of what that implies on our side? Generally speaking, I'm a bit

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: [Plone-developers] The new Plone 4.0

2009-05-11 Thread Raphael Ritz
Alexander Limi wrote: On Sat, 09 May 2009 05:09:07 -0700, Martin Aspeli [..] We'd also need to find a way to not break all existing themes. It will break (ie. slightly change) themes that reuse parts of the original Plone CSS as part of their theme. Luckily, the fix is easy: make a

[Framework-Team] Re: Plone 3.5

2009-05-05 Thread Raphael Ritz
Hanno Schlichting wrote: Hi. While everyone is waiting for Plone 4 and its rather long timeline, some people have been thinking about how to bridge the gap between the current stable 3.x releases and the future. The general idea that seems to have met some consensus is to go for a Plone 3.5

Re: [Framework-Team] Plone 3.5

2009-05-05 Thread Raphael Ritz
[Do we really need to discuss this on three lists?] Martin Aspeli wrote: JoAnna Springsteen wrote: The idea is also to catch up with our platforms (Zope 2, Zope 3, CMF) as we're starting to look a bit out of date on Zope 2.10 + Zope 3.3 + CMF 2.1. What's the significance of 3.5? Why can't

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP #246 ready for review (pending review notes)

2009-02-15 Thread Raphael Ritz
Graham Perrin wrote: [..] 1. Please, for test purposes, can anyone provide a well populated folder of events? 2. If not Calendaring + p4a.plonecalendar then can we suggest any other route to .ics import? Hi Graham, thanks for testing this. Please note that this PLIP isn't about

[Framework-Team] Plone 3.3 review: the final verdict

2009-02-15 Thread Raphael Ritz
Summary of reviews for Plone 3.3 as of 2009-02-15 = In short: all submitted PLIPs are ready for merging That's really great and once more thanks to all who contributed! Specifically, we were dealing with the following: PLIP 126 - links

Re: [Framework-Team] Plone 3.3 review: the final verdict

2009-02-15 Thread Raphael Ritz
see the following lists 2/14 as the final deadline on the schedule: http://plone.org/support/forums/announcements#nabble-td1490066 Thanks! Andrew On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 12:42 PM, Raphael Ritz r.r...@biologie.hu-berlin.de mailto:r.r...@biologie.hu-berlin.de wrote: Summary of reviews

Re: [Framework-Team] second round of PLIP reviews

2009-02-12 Thread Raphael Ritz
Andreas Zeidler wrote: hi, i've just had a look at the updates for all the PLIPs i originally reviewed and sent some comments. i won't be available for any further discussion as well as the ultimate counting etc, though, as we're leaving for vacation tomorrow. i'd appreciate if someone

Re: [Framework-Team] Plone 3.3 PLIP Bundle Review Status

2009-02-01 Thread Raphael Ritz
Steve McMahon wrote: This is a summary of the Framework Team's 3.3 PLIP bundle review status as of Saturday: Thanks for this Steve! I'll take the liberty to update this as we move on. Raphael *Reviews Complete * Accepted: 197, 237, 238, 239, 240, 241, and now 243 and 246 as well

[Framework-Team] Re: PLIP #126 ready for review

2009-01-31 Thread Raphael Ritz
Andrew Burkhalter wrote: snip [..] Just for the record, this was broken for a brief time on our branch due to some jostling around of language, but was resolved in the following changeset: http://dev.plone.org/plone/changeset/24272 Yup. confirmed. Sorry, but obviously I had gotten this

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP #126 ready for review

2009-01-28 Thread Raphael Ritz
David Glick wrote: PLIP 126 (Link type should automatically redirect when accessed directly) has been implemented. You can get the review buildout from: http://svn.plone.org/svn/plone/review/plip126-link-redirects I'm going to paste the contents of

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP #240 ready for review

2009-01-28 Thread Raphael Ritz
Erik Rose wrote: I actually first implemented it exactly that way (even called it IRefreshableLockable), then wondered if the complexity was worth it. I can go either way, but would like to hear some other opinions of best practice in a case like this. For what a non-3.x-FWT opinion is

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: PLIP review deadline has passed - time to review!

2009-01-20 Thread Raphael Ritz
Andreas Zeidler wrote: [..] personally i think it'd be stupid to not consider changes that were ready for a while now. i mean, yes technically you missed the deadline, but to me i makes a subtle difference if you the code isn't quite ready yet or if only the notification mail went missing —

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP #240 ready for review

2009-01-20 Thread Raphael Ritz
David Glick wrote: [..] Hey, just wanted to note that Andrew and I investigated this, discovered it was due to a previously existing bug in the unlockOnFormUnload.js script, and implemented a fix in the branch for PLIP #240. In the process we also discovered a related bug which results in

Re: [Plone-developers] [Framework-Team] Re: Plone 4 Framework Team Selection List

2008-12-18 Thread Raphael Ritz
Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously Tom Lazar wrote: this is a fundamental change in how the framework team will operate from now on. we're no longer just a group of individuals who quietly need to make some sense of PLIPs and their implementation on their own but more of a clearing

Re: [Framework-Team] Close Nominations Soon?

2008-11-21 Thread Raphael Ritz
Tom Lazar wrote: On 20.11.2008, at 09:47, Andreas Zeidler wrote: On Nov 19, 2008, at 6:29 PM, Steve McMahon wrote: It looks to me like we're getting a pretty good list of nominations. yes, very good! :) Shall we close nominations in a week? I can send deadline announcements to the lists

Re: [Framework-Team] 3.3 timeline

2008-11-07 Thread Raphael Ritz
Andreas Zeidler wrote: On Nov 6, 2008, at 2:58 PM, Raphael Ritz wrote: So I'd like to reinforce Wicherts call for early submissions. +1. any ideas about how to get developers to actually try to commit their stuff early? xmas presents or something? :) Beer ;-) Raphael andi

Re: [Framework-Team] 3.3 timeline

2008-11-06 Thread Raphael Ritz
Andreas Zeidler wrote: danny, raphael, and also steve and jon, would that work for you? that's to say, realistically, like in being able to do all necessary reviews etc on time? :) I hope so. At least I'll try to plan for it to the extend possible. What I can say today already, however,

Re: [Framework-Team] 3.3 timeline

2008-11-04 Thread Raphael Ritz
Tom Lazar wrote: On 03.11.2008, at 10:27, Wichert Akkerman wrote: I've been told the framework team wants to be involved with setting timeframes for releases. I want to propose to take this one step further during the PLIP handling phase: I would like the framework team to propose a timeline

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP Tallies

2008-10-29 Thread Raphael Ritz
a quick list of your new votes, it will help me update the tallies. Thanks, Steve On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 7:08 AM, Andreas Zeidler [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 28, 2008, at 11:39 AM, Raphael Ritz wrote: Andreas Zeidler wrote: On Oct 28, 2008

[Framework-Team] Re: PLIP 234: Standardizing our use of INavigationRoot

2008-10-28 Thread Raphael Ritz
Andreas Zeidler wrote: hi team, afaict PLIP 234[1] was never proposed to the framework team list. technically we require this in order to consider a PLIP, or at least we repeatedly asked PLIP authors to announce their PLIPs here so we're aware of them. seeing that this particular PLIP has

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP Tallies

2008-10-28 Thread Raphael Ritz
Andreas Zeidler wrote: On Oct 28, 2008, at 9:21 AM, Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously Steve McMahon wrote: Here are my 3.3 PLIP tallies as of 5:45 2008-10-28 (UTC). These include some unambiguous votes pulled from e-mail messages to the FWT list. Can this be turned into a result? i'd say

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP 246: View for rendering events as an iCalendar file

2008-10-28 Thread Raphael Ritz
Alexander Limi wrote: Hi Framework Team, On behalf of Andreas Zeidler, I'd like to offer up the following PLIP for your consideration for Plone 3.3: http://plone.org/products/plone/roadmap/246 It's a pretty trivial PLIP that adds a new view that is capable of rendering events as an

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP 237 for Plone 3.3 - Minor i18n upgrades

2008-10-28 Thread Raphael Ritz
Hanno Schlichting wrote: Hi. I'd like to propose to accept PLIP 237 - Minor i18n upgrades for Plone 3.3. The full text is at http://plone.org/products/plone/roadmap/237. Short version: Ship PloneLanguageTool 2.1 instead of 2.0 and PlacelessTranslationService 1.5 instead of 1.4 with Plone 3.3.

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP 228: Restore 'Add Item..' menu on all pages

2008-10-28 Thread Raphael Ritz
Wichert Akkerman wrote: I guess I'm the first one. I want to propose PLIP 228 for Plone 3.3. I feel that removing the removal of the 'Add Item' dropdown in many places in Plone 3 is a regression in behaviour, and makes adding content a lot more cumbersome. The PLIP has so far only received

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP 238: Disable inline editing by default

2008-10-28 Thread Raphael Ritz
Wichert Akkerman wrote: I want to propose PLIP 238: Disable inline editing by default Motivation -- I suspect that by now most of us have realized that the current inline editing behaviour in Plone 3 is not very practical. It has two main problems: * it is very easily triggered by

Re: [Framework-Team] Notes from Framework Team Meeting in DC

2008-10-21 Thread Raphael Ritz
Tom Lazar wrote: thanks stve for the concise write up. this kind of stuff (i.e. putting consensus into written form) is very important imho. personally, i think your write up (and the decisions we reached during the meeting) strike a very good balance between being too formal and thus

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP 244: Portlet management improvements

2008-10-17 Thread Raphael Ritz
Martin Aspeli wrote: Hi all, Ricardo Alves has been working (with me providing some guidance) on some incremental improvements to plone.app.portlets. We'd like to propose this for Plone 3.3: http://plone.org/products/plone/roadmap/244 +1 on the topic as such. But as Wichert and Alex

Re: [Framework-Team] What is Plone 3.3?

2008-10-12 Thread Raphael Ritz
Martin Aspeli wrote: Hi, Hi Martin, I hear you loud and clearly ;-) Actually I even share all of you concerns. And I was just about to propose the add-on approach while reading your message. I would agree that if we are providing such changes in the 3.x series site admins should be able to

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP 242: Move manage-portlets link to site actions

2008-10-09 Thread Raphael Ritz
Wichert Akkerman wrote: I'm too late for my own deadline, so I have no expectation that the framework can review this on time time. If you guys have a bit of spare time I would appreciate it though :) Hi Wichert, don't worry too much. At least I planned to start reviewing only after the

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP 323: Resource Registries Improvements

2008-10-09 Thread Raphael Ritz
Wichert Akkerman wrote: A PLIP from Michael Dunlap and Florian Schulze which is marked as being propsed in its workflow state but apparently not mailed to this list (I sense we need a content rule for this stuff..) after the upgrade to Plone 3 ;-) (and once the trigger on workflow state

Re: [Framework-Team] Framework Team Meeting at Conference

2008-09-07 Thread Raphael Ritz
Steve McMahon wrote: Am I right that Raphael isn't going to be at the conference? No, unfortunately not (for various reasons though I'd love to come ...). Raphael PS: don't worry too much about the jet lag Steve. The first evening(s) are easy. It's the third or forth that are getting tough

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: Framework Team Page Needs Updating

2008-08-19 Thread Raphael Ritz
Alexander Limi wrote: On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 12:35:35 -0700, Martijn Pieters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In your specific case, that'd be for Plone 3.3. Current Plone trunk will be version 4.0. I'd keep it on the list and not canvas us directly though. His point still stands — the team list is

[Framework-Team] Re: Resource Registries improvements PLIP

2008-08-12 Thread Raphael Ritz
Michael Dunlap wrote: Hello framework-team! I have a PLIP ( http://plone.org/products/plone/roadmap/232) that details two potential changes to Resource Registries that would allow for 1) Conditional Comments for CSS Resources, and 2) support for external resources

Re: [Framework-Team] Framework Team Meeting in DC

2008-07-14 Thread Raphael Ritz
Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously Tom Lazar wrote: steve, that's an excellent idea! can we do a quick 'show of hands' here on the list, which framework team meamber will be (if at all) when in DC? like so, perhaps? | from | til - tomster | 6th | 12th

Re: [Framework-Team] availability over the next 5 months

2008-07-03 Thread Raphael Ritz
Wichert Akkerman schrieb: Can the members of the framework team mail me some information on their availability for the next couple of months? If there are periods of a week or longer that you know you will not be able to dedicate enough time to framework team business I'ld like to know so I

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: 3.2 Release Manager

2008-06-25 Thread Raphael Ritz
Martijn Pieters wrote: On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 9:43 AM, Martin Aspeli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as I know I'm still release manager for 3.x. I've been waiting for the foundation board (in the person of that same limi) to answer some questions I asked about the release manager stipend.

Re: [Framework-Team] The final(?) verdict

2008-02-21 Thread Raphael Ritz
Tom Lazar wrote: On Feb 20, 2008, at 9:45 PM, Danny Bloemendaal wrote: [..] I'd say to just clear the message when it is no longer needed and indeed show the message if pressing the save button resulst in an error. That means that no message is shown during inline validation. If the message

[Framework-Team] Re: tomorrow's PLIP review deadline

2008-02-21 Thread Raphael Ritz
Andreas Zeidler wrote: [..] even though i just spent another two or so hours reading up and sorting out tickets, this is still valid. i guess the first task is pretty much done, or at least the status and assignments[1] of all tickets should reflect the current status. the counting and

Re: [Framework-Team] The final(?) verdict

2008-02-20 Thread Raphael Ritz
Martin Aspeli wrote: [..] PLIP #202: Support inline validation and editing for formlib forms http://plone.org/products/plone/roadmap/203 https://dev.plone.org/plone/ticket/7737 +4 - but there is still some debate about what's the best way to handle the portal status message. Once this is

Re: [Framework-Team] The final(?) verdict

2008-02-20 Thread Raphael Ritz
message. That would address the specific concern I have about inconsistent feedback and make things jump around a bit less. Still not sure what's the right thing to do here though Raphael just my $0.02, tom On 20.02.2008, at 13:28, Raphael Ritz wrote: Martin Aspeli wrote: [..] PLIP #202

Re: [Framework-Team] The final(?) verdict

2008-02-20 Thread Raphael Ritz
Andreas Zeidler wrote: [..] PLIP #216: Template overrides http://plone.org/products/plone/roadmap/216 https://dev.plone.org/plone/ticket/7750 -4 - never submitted (Raphael notes: not sure we are on trac here as all this is about is to include the z3c.jbot package from

[Framework-Team] The final(?) verdict

2008-02-19 Thread Raphael Ritz
Hi Folks, at Wichert's request and in order to update us all I've just compiled the following overview. I hope I didn't forget anything. Feel free to comment on this as you see fit. I've scanned the tracker and looked again at some of the PLIP pages but I didn't dig through the mailing list

[Framework-Team] comments on plip187: WebDAV

2008-02-18 Thread Raphael Ritz
Hi, here my current take on this PLIP: tested on Linux/Ubuntu 7.10 with Nautilus and Cadaver as WebDAV clients. First, my overall impression: I'm somewhat at a loss here as I don't know what to expect and therefore I don't know what to recommend. :-( While all changes introduced are

[Framework-Team] comments on plip224-csrf-protection

2008-02-18 Thread Raphael Ritz
Hello again, I have nothing to add to Andi's excellent review. I only want to reinforce that we should not only ship with the two new packages but also start using them right away. At least for security and administration related things like: the personalize_form, password_form, ownership_form,

[Framework-Team] Re: comments on plip187: WebDAV

2008-02-18 Thread Raphael Ritz
for possible improvements after the PLIP is merged. In fact, some of them are already on my TODO. On Feb 18, 2008 5:09 AM, Raphael Ritz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, here my current take on this PLIP: tested on Linux/Ubuntu 7.10 with Nautilus and Cadaver as WebDAV clients. First, my overall

Re: [Framework-Team] Testing for PLIP 209: Unified Installer Plus Buildout

2008-02-17 Thread Raphael Ritz
(probably the README) would need to be clarified. On Feb 16, 2008, at 12:26 AM, Steve McMahon wrote: On 2/14/08, Raphael Ritz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... (ii) maybe I screwed it up myself but I couldn't specify a relative path when specifying the target as follows: Thanks! Fixed in svn

Re: [Framework-Team] my review status

2008-02-17 Thread Raphael Ritz
Tom Lazar wrote: On Feb 18, 2008, at 12:56 AM, Andreas Zeidler wrote: On Feb 17, 2008, at 3:21 PM, Tom Lazar wrote: sorry for the delay, i went out with hannosch and lurker yesterday evening, instead of finishing my last review ;-) way to go. i finished 201 but still couldn't get 209 to

Re: [Framework-Team] Testing for PLIP 209: Unified Installer Plus Buildout

2008-02-14 Thread Raphael Ritz
Steve McMahon wrote: Thanks for the great review and suggestions, Martijn! I'm pleased to report that the PID problem is taken care of. Nouri fixed it for zope2instance in: http://dev.plone.org/collective/changeset/55898 and for zope2zeoserver in:

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: Review process: suggestions, and an offer

2008-02-14 Thread Raphael Ritz
Graham Perrin wrote: [..] High quality improvements to Plone, and actions from (for example) the Summit, are to me far more satisfying than a fixed schedule for upgrading. Glad you see it this way ;-) And to add to the general theme (process): At least in my case it wasn't about lack of

[Framework-Team] note on optilude-plip202

2008-02-14 Thread Raphael Ritz
This is about kss inline validation of formlib fields. Functionally, it works as advertised but there's a little issue with the feedback to the user as the portal status message can get out of sync. For more see http://dev.plone.org/plone/changeset/19238 and for the implementation of the

[Framework-Team] note on plip220-browserlayer

2008-02-14 Thread Raphael Ritz
Raphael, 2008-02-12: nothing to add to Andi's comments; +1 from me as well On the cosmetic side I'd like to see the following warnings disappear: /home/ritz/.buildout/zope/Zope-2.10.5-final/lib/python/zope/configuration/fields.py:417: UserWarning: You did not specify an i18n translation

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP 224: CSRF protection framework

2008-01-31 Thread Raphael Ritz
Wichert Akkerman wrote: See http://plone.org/products/plone/roadmap/224 for details. I absolutely hate to do this since it violates our process and we already have a large number of PLIPs waiting for review, but I am proposing this PLIP for Plone 3.1. Anarchist as I am I have no problem

Re: [Framework-Team] review deadline coming up

2008-01-30 Thread Raphael Ritz
Andreas Zeidler wrote: [..] answer the second part we first need to distribute those 16 review. however, as i don't think anyone would be too happy to go ahead and do this for you, you should initially each grab at least three of them yourselves: * raphael, you've offered to look at

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP #215: Include new KSS versions

2008-01-21 Thread Raphael Ritz
Tom Lazar wrote: just a quick 'heads up' from me that i have no problem with the delay. i'd very much like to see new and improved kss in every new version of plone ;-) I've also no problem with the delay here. cheers, tom p.s. have fun in austria, wish i could be there... Indeed, me

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP #215: Include new KSS versions

2008-01-21 Thread Raphael Ritz
Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously Tom Lazar wrote: just a quick 'heads up' from me that i have no problem with the delay. i'd very much like to see new and improved kss in every new version of plone ;-) I sort of agree, but I do want to note that I can not find a reference of PLIP

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: PLIP 195 implementation ready for review

2008-01-17 Thread Raphael Ritz
Wichert Akkerman wrote: [..] I've implemented this change and updated the review buildout. Wichert. Thanks Wichert! I just added my (final?) comments to the bundle: http://dev.plone.org/plone/browser/review/plip195-dependencies/REVIEW_NOTES.txt Raphael 2008-01-17: ===

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: PLIP 195 implementation ready for review

2008-01-17 Thread Raphael Ritz
Wichert Akkerman wrote: Raphael Ritz wrote: (i) I didn't find specific (unit) tests for the new feature (e.g., installing ProductOne results in ProductTwo being installed; BrokenProduct being found as non-installable) Should be trivial to add given what's there already

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: Official submission: PLIP 184, 200, 203 and 204

2008-01-16 Thread Raphael Ritz
Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously Tom Lazar wrote: for the record (as a framework team member) i'd like to support martin on this issue. the formlib wysiwyg support is a *new* feature, and if it happens to *not* work for fckeditor, eventhough wysiwg support used to work for kupu

[Framework-Team] Organizing the review

2008-01-15 Thread Raphael Ritz
Hi team mates, just a quick question regarding how we want to organize the review: While the deadline for submission is only next Saturday (Jan 19) we do already have some PLIP implementations submitted: http://dev.plone.org/plone/browser/review/plip195-dependencies

Re: [Framework-Team] Organizing the review

2008-01-15 Thread Raphael Ritz
Wichert Akkerman wrote: Raphael Ritz wrote: Ideally, everyone from the team should look at everything but often this simply doesn't work out so we might want to make sure we spit the work such that all PLIPs get consideration from at least two or three team members. Questions or issues arising

Re: [Framework-Team] Official submission: PLIP 184, 200, 203 and 204

2008-01-15 Thread Raphael Ritz
Martin Aspeli wrote: Ho ho ho, I'd like to officially submit for consideration for Plone 3.1 a bundle that comprises the following PLIPs (in separate packages): - PLIP 184 - additional portlets (has a dependency on PLIP 200) - PLIP 200 - Kupu formlib widget Hi Martin, just playing with

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: Official submission: PLIP 184, 200, 203 and 204

2008-01-15 Thread Raphael Ritz
Martin Aspeli wrote: [..] I agree, but this may just as well be a bug in FCKeditor. Since that's not part of Plone core, it's a bit hard to account for it (we can't test every third party product). That said, we do want this release to be nice on third party products, so we should fix it.

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: preliminary results for PLIP selection call for votes!

2007-12-24 Thread Raphael Ritz
Ricardo Newbery wrote: Thanks again Sidnei, [note to framework list: let me know if I should take this discussion off list] No problem with me. You might want to consider cross-posting or moving to plone-devel depending on the audience you want to reach. Just my 2 cents, Raphael

Re: [Framework-Team] Official submission: PLIP 184, 200, 203 and 204

2007-12-24 Thread Raphael Ritz
Martin Aspeli wrote: [..] Cheers, and merry Christmas :) Thanks for all your contributions and Merry Christmas, Raphael Martin [1] http://dev.plone.org/plone/browser/review/optilude-plipathon-184-200-203-204/REVIEW-NOTES.txt ___

[Framework-Team] Re: preliminary results for PLIP selection call for votes!

2007-12-23 Thread Raphael Ritz
Andreas Zeidler wrote: [..] * Rapahel on #187 please also try to cast those asap. that said, how long do we want to wait for those missing votes and do we have a plan on how to proceed if they don't arrive? i'd suggest waiting until midnight tonight at most, i.e. one day, and then

[Framework-Team] Re: voting process

2007-12-20 Thread Raphael Ritz
Andreas Zeidler wrote: On Dec 20, 2007, at 9:04 AM, Raphael Ritz wrote: [..] 1. Do we give our votes here via the list or on the website as comment or both? i'd prefer them to be on the plip pages themselves. that'll make counting and accepting plips much easier. OK, then we need

[Framework-Team] PLIP 197 - FeedParseer

2007-12-20 Thread Raphael Ritz
Hi, don't know whether this is even submitted for 3.1 http://plone.org/products/plone/roadmap/197 but I agree with Christian that we should not include a third-party library literally in the Plone core source distribution. +1 on this PLIP from me anyways. Raphael

[Framework-Team] Re: Vice - RSS link

2007-12-20 Thread Raphael Ritz
Raphael Ritz wrote: Hello again, while PLIP 192 (Vice Outbound Syndication) http://plone.org/products/plone/roadmap/192 isn't even submitted to 3.1 (AFAICT) it contains a point that's worth noting and that might go into 3.1 IMHO. It's about changing the way the RSS link is handled. Making

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP #213: Prepare for better Syndication

2007-12-13 Thread Raphael Ritz
Florian Schulze wrote: Hi! I propose the following PLIP: http://plone.org/products/plone/roadmap/213 It's a very small one, but with a small risk, so I think this should go the proper PLIP way. The implementation just needs to be backported, which means removing a few lines and using the

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: My PLIPs for 3.1

2007-12-12 Thread Raphael Ritz
Alec Mitchell wrote: [..] I will be writing a PLIP shortly which will hopefully make any merging of CMFPlacefulWorkflow into the workflow tool unnecessary. The idea is adapter based workflow assignment. By default all IDynamicType objects would be assigned a workflow chain using an adapter

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: PLIPs for 3.1

2007-12-10 Thread Raphael Ritz
Wichert Akkerman wrote: [..] If you draw this up you basically get a matrix of views with a content-type axis and a tile-type axes. Something like: | main content | portlet | search result | folderlisting

[Framework-Team] Re: PLIPs for 3.1

2007-12-10 Thread Raphael Ritz
Martin Aspeli wrote: [..] In the spirit of thinking aloud, I think even that is not general enough. I think the easiest approach will be to use pure Zope 3 and register these as different views providing different marker interfaces or something like that. That way, you can tile something

Re: [Framework-Team] review bundle for PLIP 195 ready

2007-12-09 Thread Raphael Ritz
Tom Lazar wrote: [..] i've installed the buildout and done some TTW testing in the ZMI and in the plone control panel: everything worked as expected. in fact, the only difference in behaviour was that installing ProductOne did indeed also install ProductTwo, there were none of the

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: PLIPs for 3.1

2007-12-04 Thread Raphael Ritz
Andreas Zeidler wrote: On Dec 4, 2007, at 12:35 PM, Tom Lazar wrote: i'll take a look at the plips and check out their bundles (including wiggy's #195) during the weekend and will report by sunday evenening. fair enough, but let's make deciding on the acceptance of PLIPs a higher priority

Re: [Framework-Team] review bundle for PLIP 195 ready

2007-11-28 Thread Raphael Ritz
Wichert Akkerman wrote: I have prepared a review bundle for PLIP 195: https://svn.plone.org/svn/plone/review/plip195-dependencies this is a standard buildout, so you can get everything up and running using the standard mantra: svn co

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: proposed plone 3.1 timeframe

2007-11-23 Thread Raphael Ritz
Alexander Limi wrote: On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 01:59:23 -0800, Martijn Pieters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I see both sides of the coin here, Wichert is correct in insisting on shorter release cycles, Martin is correct that December is not the month to do this. I won't have much time to review

[Framework-Team] Re: Terminology change: migration - upgrade

2007-07-21 Thread Raphael Ritz
Alexander Limi wrote: [..] Any objections? no, not from me - as long as you don't break any code ;-) Raphael PS: didn't we have that discussion month ago already? --Alexander Limi · http://limi.net ___ Framework-Team mailing list

Re: [Framework-Team] Remove community_workflow?

2007-06-05 Thread Raphael Ritz
Martin Aspeli schrieb: Hi guys, In reference to https://dev.plone.org/plone/ticket/6501, I *think* it would be safe and sensible to remove community_workflow and community_folder_workflow from the standard Plone 3 install, and re-title the plone_workflow and plone_default_workflow to be

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: plone.theme - one more package for Plone 3?

2007-05-23 Thread Raphael Ritz
Tom Lazar schrieb: [..] FWIW: i like this feature a lot and would be very pleased with its inclusion in 3.0 final. judging from my own frustration that i've had so far with five based views 'messing up' skin layers they were not intended for i think any possible integration issues will well

Re: [Framework-Team] Community workflow and plone workflow

2007-04-30 Thread Raphael Ritz
Martin Aspeli schrieb: Hi guys, Hi Martin, We've determined that removing plone_workflow won't work - it breaks too many tests, which make silly, implicit assumptions about the default workflow. which is bad testing style then but anyway ... :-( However, we don't want this to be the

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: The big 3.0 ;)

2007-03-30 Thread Raphael Ritz
Martin Aspeli schrieb: [..] There is a general developer mis-conception that Plone's not *too bad at* but sometimes we all do it: More options == better. Could we maybe return to the issue that triggered this discussion, namely whether or not to bann the smart folder settings from the Plone

Re: [Framework-Team] beta1 release timing

2007-03-09 Thread Raphael Ritz
Wichert Akkerman schrieb: [..] The last one is a decision that we need to make. It will take a couple of days for this to settle down, I'm leaving for a week of snowboarding tomorrow evening, so here is my proposal: we delay the beta a bit further to Monday, March 19. At that point I'll make a

[Framework-Team] Re: new workflows

2007-02-28 Thread Raphael Ritz
Hanno Schlichting schrieb: [..] Do we really want to update existing sites? They already have their customized workflows and I don't quite see why we should pollute their workflow tools with any new ones. IIRC we discussed this at the Archipelago sprint and at least at that time there was

[Framework-Team] Re: new workflows

2007-02-28 Thread Raphael Ritz
Martin Aspeli schrieb: I general I agree; it's mostly a practical issue here because the old API for adding workflows to the tool is gone and I simply don't know whether/how GS supports doing only parts of an import step (import wf x and y but leave z alone; don't touch the chains ...) but maybe

[Framework-Team] Re: new workflows

2007-02-28 Thread Raphael Ritz
Martin Aspeli schrieb: [..] I need to look at this in more detail, but we'd need to find a way of doing it at a lower level. Hell, I'd copy the XML-parsing code and make it more defensive if necessary. :) My hope (without looking at the code in detail) was that the logic that parses the

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: branching moment

2007-02-27 Thread Raphael Ritz
Hanno Schlichting schrieb: [..] Selecting a new team is indeed our last responsibility (besides thinking about ways to improve the process). We can start doing that now or in a few weeks. I don't have a strong opinion about this topic. I agree with Hanno here on all accounts. Other than

[Framework-Team] plip 101 - batch and sort

2007-01-04 Thread Raphael Ritz
Hi guys, this is just to let you know that student of mine, Florian Kamm, is implementing a solution for PLIP 101 http://plone.org/products/plone/roadmap/101 Sortable tables need to be improved, the javascript needs to be cleaned up and if the table is part of a batch it should handle

Re: [Framework-Team] AJAX decision must be made THIS WEEK

2006-10-11 Thread Raphael Ritz
Martin Aspeli schrieb: Hi guys, Hi Martin, so without any further arguments/discussions/justifications/emotions/... I'm +1 on including AZAX/KSS - which implies -1 on Bling (sorry Ben) Raphael We've meandered, wondered, hued and hawwwed for long enough. Jon co need to know what the

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