from:"Predrag Punosevac"

I was wondering if somebody can give me some information on Prism-family 
of USB Wi-Fi adapters.
I have an old one US Robotics USR1120 which I am so far unable to get 
recognized by FreeBSD box.
I have added  if_wi_load="YES" into my /boot/loader.conf  rebooted but 
dmesg still looks as


ugen0: vendor 0x0baf product 0x00eb, rev 1.10/1.32, addr 2

and the power light is off on the adapter.
What am I doing wrong?

The adapter is in perfect working condition as I checked on one of the 
OpenBSD boxes that I have. /

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Re: USB Wi-Fi adapter question

Thank you so much for this information. By the way Ralink works fine on 
6.2 stable but it really had problems on 6.2 release. I have

PCI adapter Edimax 7128G working flawlessly on one of my FreeBSD boxes.

Do you have Ralink on USB , PCI or PCCARD?


James Jeffery wrote:

I had the same problem with the Ralink chipsets. I didn't know you can
get Prism cards in USB form.

Anyway, i switched to 7-CURRENT and it worked like a charm.

Although i have a G122 C1

On 10/18/07, *Predrag Punosevac* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:


I was wondering if somebody can give me some information on
Prism-family
of USB Wi-Fi adapters.
I have an old one US Robotics USR1120 which I am so far unable to get
recognized by FreeBSD box.
I have added  if_wi_load="YES" into my /boot/loader.conf  rebooted
but
dmesg still looks as

ugen0: vendor 0x0baf product 0x00eb, rev 1.10/1.32, addr 2

and the power light is off on the adapter.
What am I doing wrong?

The adapter is in perfect working condition as I checked on one of
the
OpenBSD boxes that I have. /
/
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Re: best way to run vista inside freebsd


Aryeh M. Friedman wrote:

I want to run vista (windows) on my freebsd (amd64) machine without
rebooting what is better wine or an vm emulator (if so which one... I
know how to use vmware but never done so on a *nix machine)
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I do not have Windows on any of my machines but I have heard that 
Win4BSD is really good. It is not free! I believe it is about

$45.
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Re: USB Wi-Fi adapter question


icantthinkofone wrote:

Predrag Punosevac wrote:
I was wondering if somebody can give me some information on 
Prism-family of USB Wi-Fi adapters.
I have an old one US Robotics USR1120 which I am so far unable to get 
recognized by FreeBSD box.
I have added  if_wi_load="YES" into my /boot/loader.conf  rebooted 
but dmesg still looks as


ugen0: vendor 0x0baf product 0x00eb, rev 1.10/1.32, addr 2

and the power light is off on the adapter.
What am I doing wrong?

The adapter is in perfect working condition as I checked on one of 
the OpenBSD boxes that I have. /

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My wifi power light is off on my prism2.5 laptop, too, but it works 
just fine.  Some hardware won't give you the ability to turn it on in 
FreeBSD.
Unfortunately the ifconfig output is not showing new Wi-Fi device even 
when I reboot. I was thinking about that possibility you are describing.

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Re: best way to run vista inside freebsd


Predrag Punosevac wrote:

Frank Jahnke wrote:

I have heard that Win4BSD is really good.



Your hearing is not good.  Win4BSD is a terrible product when compared
with the very old version of VMware.  Its only advantage is that you can
run it with more than one CPU (namely, APIC is enabled).  Win4BSD is
less stable, less responsive, and it appears to be dead as far as
activity goes.  FWIW, in my opinion qemu/kqemu is not particularly good,
either.

VMs in general are a problem on Free.  There is an effort to port the
most recent VMware Workstation by a very good man.  I do hope this
works, because right now things in the VM world on FreeBSD truly are
bleak.

Frank
  
I said in the disclaimer that I personally do not run any Windows 
natively or via WMware.
I was also wrong about the price. It looks it is $29.99 
http://www.win4bsd.com/content/

Sorry for spam, this is the end of my participation on this thread.




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Re: Windows SSH client?

2007-10-25 Thread Predrag Punosevac


N.J. Thomas wrote:

* Eric F Crist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-10-24 14:12:59 -0500]:
  
I'm looking for a good, free, SSH client that has line/column numbers  
at the bottom, similar to SecureCRT.



I'm curious as to why you need the line/column numbers displayed for
your terminal in an SSH client? That seems to me a completely unrelated
function. Most editors (Vi, Emacs, etc.) will give you that info, but
can you explain why need it as necessary component for an SSH client?

Thomas

  
I am also confused about your question as a previous sender. Do you have 
cygwin installed on your Windows machines?
You can use shell to ssh to a remote location like in Unix. The next 
thing that comes to my mind is PUTTY but I am not really sure
if you already dismissed it as inadequate. WinSCP is secure copy client 
(sftp) which is in Unix world part of ssh but as I said earlier if you 
have cygwin you can pretend that you are in the Unix environment. 
OpenSSH is a cygwin package!

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Re: LaTeX oder teTeX

2007-10-27 Thread Predrag Punosevac


Roland Smith wrote:

On Sat, Oct 27, 2007 at 11:51:25PM +, Christian Walther wrote:
  

a few years ago I got a good introduction to TeX, but for some reason
stopped using it. Now I want to pick up where I left. I found LaTeX and
teTeX in ports, so I wonder what the best tex distribution is.
According to the teTeX website there will be no further development (at
least not from its original author Thomas Esser). Is LaTeX a better
candidate?



It looks like the LaTeX in ports is even older than teTeX.

The best TeX distribution for UNIX these days is TeXLive. It is a very
complete TeX/LaTeX/ConTeXt distribution. You can
download an iso image here: http://www.tug.org/texlive/acquire.html
You'll have to build the binaries yourself, because the pre-built
FreeBSD binaries are for 4.x, i.e. out of date. But it's not that difficult.

  

There should be some support for (or by) LyX, because I would like to
use LyX to get start. I know that TeX has a steep learning curve and I
hope to reduce it with LyX so that I can dive into TeX while working on
my projects.



If you're relatively new to the TeX world, start with the ConTeXt macro
package for TeX, because it is very actively developed. And it's easier
than plain TeX.

If you want something easier, and you don't care if it doesn't look quite
as nice as (La)TeX try OpenOffice or Koffice. 


Roland
  
teTeX is a standard distribution of TeX and Latex for Unix and Unix like 
OS. You need to install teTeX-base which will get you everything you 
need. Of course it is old since I believe that TeX code is completely 
frozen since 2001. On the other note teTeX distribution is discontinued 
last year in favor of TeXLive. TeXLive is not in ports as there are many 
issues with dependencies. Since TeX is a very old peace of software many 
things depend on teTeX . People work actively on porting TeXLive but I 
do not know of single OS or a Linux distro that recommends it at the 
moment.


You can run TeXLive from live DVD however. You can get it from ctan web 
site.
I have teTeX on 3 FreeBSD boxes and one OpenBSD box and I also use 
TeXLive as I am using the Latex class of presentation powerdot
which is not ported for FreeBSD and I could not get it install manually 
since it requires some new fonts not contained in the teTeX version 
which is ported for FreeBSD.


OpenBSD will also not see TeXLive at least until 4.3
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Re: DVD distribution

2007-10-27 Thread Predrag Punosevac


Jerry McAllister wrote:

On Sat, Oct 27, 2007 at 01:47:20AM +0200, Michel Ali wrote:

  

Hi,

I’m an IT manager.

I am just wondering why you do not have a DVD distribution. [I know about
workarounds]

Could you do something about that, it would be really helpful and handy?



FreeBSD per se does not have any distribution.
FreeBSD only puts out the ISO-s that are available free on
the main or one of the mirror sites.

There are some companies that pick up the ISO images and make
a distribution.   That is permitted under the FreeBSD license.
Usually they sell it for a bit over cost and include a printed
version of the Handbook.   Most of them contribute a portion of
their receipts back to the FreeBSD foundation to help in development.

So, either you can convince one of the packaging companies - they are
listed in the web site - to make a DVD distibution or you can start
doing it and selling it yourself.

jerry

  

Thanks a lot.

Michel Ali

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Actually FreeBSD has DVD distribution. I think, I saw on the internet 
that somebody in Germany was selling FreeBSD DVDs.
There are lots of Germans on this mailing list so they might give you 
better answer.

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Re: LaTeX oder teTeX

2007-10-28 Thread Predrag Punosevac


Frank Shute wrote:

On Sun, Oct 28, 2007 at 10:46:18AM +, Christian Walther wrote

  

When I need additional macro packages (one for creating nice
presentations would be nice indeed) I'll check with ctan.



Check out beamer once you've installed teTeX:

/usr/local/share/texmf-dist/doc/latex/beamer/beameruserguide.pdf

There are also some examples installed:

/usr/local/share/texmf-dist/doc/latex/beamer/examples/

  



TeX/Latex has a several level of presentation classes.
Simplest is class of documents is slidetex then follows foiltex, 
prosper, beamer, ppower4 and powerdot.


I happen to think that powerdot is by far the best (you can play movies 
from slides, easily customized easy to use 40 pages manual vs 400 pages 
for beamer) .
Slidetex and foiltex are really low level classes essentially allowing 
you to create simple slides in TeX. Prosper which is ported for FreeBSD 
is obsolete  (because of powerdot) and  baggy .

Beamer is ported for FreeBSD and OpenBSD. ppower4 is ported for OpenBSD.

The only reason people like beamer (the same goes for ppower4)
is that it lets you use pdflatex option while powerdot requires using 
dvi-->ps-->pdf.
As I am old school this is completely irrelevant for me because that is 
what I am doing anyway. The quality of slides is whole level
up with respect to Beamer. Unfortunately most people seems to disagree 
with my statement above and use beamer.


If you are using serious editor like emacs you can customize editor that 
it does that automatically for you.


I was thinking of porting powerdot my self as there is no dependency 
relation to TeXLive. Debian and many other distros of Linux have this 
package in something they call TeX extra I think (basic additional stuff 
for teTeX). TeXLive does include powerdot by default as
every possible option for Latex but is usually modular and you would not 
install in that fashion anyway. The same goes for MiKTex 2.5

which is standard Windblows distribution of TeX, Latex.

I gave up after encountering problems with older fonts in ported version 
of teTeX and decided that it is better to wait for guys to port TeXLive 
than to waist the time trying to resolve dependency issues  teTeX vs 
powerdot.  In the mean time I use live DVD with TeX Live  which is 
perfectly OK solution with me as I do not want 3.7Gb of all TeXLive junk 
(font for languages I have never heard or some exotic features) on my 
hard-drive anyway. It is also really made for Linux and hard-disk 
installation will do quite a few thinks that we do not allow in FreeBSD 
(like using /etc file for non system applications)


I hope  this  helps to clarify the issue with presentation classes.

Predrag


P.S. As always best source of info for TeX related stuff is 
http://www.ctan.org

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i810 driver problem

2007-10-28 Thread Predrag Punosevac

I was wondering if anybody encountered any problems with i810 video 
driver on 7.0Beta15 current.
Namely I did yesterday a fresh installation of an older Pentium III 
machine and was unable to get X going.
I got Xorg as pkg_add -r by the way and the rest of the system was 
installed from ISO image.

Yes, I did have

Section "ServerFlags"
 Option "IgnoreAbi" "on"
EndSection

I looked carefully xorg.conf.new and the listed video driver was i810. I 
did not manually compile that driver as I thought that was included into 
XOrg( at least on two other new computers I use i810 driver and it was 
included into XOrg).
I tried though to load it manually into kernel by editing load.conf 
file. Sorry I am not enclosing  log file as  I wiped
installation. It was very late last night and I thought it will take me 
half an hour to get things working. I end up spending

3 hours.

Then I tried PC-BSD 1.4 which is 6.2 stable from July and everything 
went without a hitch.
I checked xorg.conf and I saw that the listed driver is 
Xf86-video-intel-2.1.1



Should I try to install Xf86-video-intel-2.1.1 and then just try to hand 
configure xorg.conf file.


I did notice some discussion yesterday about i810 but I thought it was 
relevant just for upgrading not for

the new installation.

Any input or suggestion will be appreciated.

Predrag Punosevac
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Re: i810 driver problem

2007-10-29 Thread Predrag Punosevac


Kevin Kinsey wrote:

Predrag Punosevac wrote:
I was wondering if anybody encountered any problems with i810 video 
driver on 7.0Beta15 current.
Namely I did yesterday a fresh installation of an older Pentium III 
machine and was unable to get X going.
I got Xorg as pkg_add -r by the way and the rest of the system was 
installed from ISO image.

Yes, I did have

Section "ServerFlags"
 Option "IgnoreAbi" "on"
EndSection

I looked carefully xorg.conf.new and the listed video driver was 
i810. I did not manually compile that driver as I thought that was 
included into XOrg( at least on two other new computers I use i810 
driver and it was included into XOrg).
I tried though to load it manually into kernel by editing load.conf 
file. Sorry I am not enclosing  log file as  I wiped
installation. It was very late last night and I thought it will take 
me half an hour to get things working. I end up spending

3 hours.


Stupid question (especially since I dunno much about 7.0 yet),
but you did have agp_load="YES" in loader.conf, and /dev/agpgart
was created successfully?

Note that I suppose it's possible this isn't necessary in 7.x,
but it has been in the other branches for a Long Time Now(tm).

Yes I did have agp_load="YES". I have done some additional testing last 
night on that machine. First of all I tried OpenBSD 4.1 and I could 
start x even without xorg.conf file which is usually true in OpenBSD but 
the XOrg version is 6.9.

Then I did fresh installation of 7.0 and and did pkg_add -r Xorg.
I was monkeying around with the xorg.conf.new file and I was able to get 
going X -config   /root/xorg.conf.new. However when
I cp  /root/xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf.new and startx the X would 
start without clients and then would crush within a second. I could just 
see various colors  all over the place.


Then I tried to use xorgconfig  utility and created  xorg.conf  file  
with  very  conservative options ( I decreased the number of colors)
This time when I started x everything was fine for about 3 seconds and 
then crash again and colors all over the place. (kernel is also frozen)
I think I am getting somewhere but I need to play with this thing 
longer. For some reason when I xorgcfg -textmode I would get reply that

the command is not recognized. I will check this again.

I will try couple other things. I will also try to install 6.2 stable 
and see if I can get Xorg going.


This is an old DeLL dimension computer and the monitor I was using is 
Sony trinitron 15in. I will try with my 17in DeLL monitor to see if that 
makes any difference.




Then I tried PC-BSD 1.4 which is 6.2 stable from July and everything 
went without a hitch.
I checked xorg.conf and I saw that the listed driver is 
Xf86-video-intel-2.1.1


Should I try to install Xf86-video-intel-2.1.1 and then just try to 
hand configure xorg.conf file.


I did notice some discussion yesterday about i810 but I thought it 
was relevant just for upgrading not for the new installation.


Any input or suggestion will be appreciated.

Predrag Punosevac


Hoping it helps,

Kevin Kinsey


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Re: LaTeX oder teTeX

2007-10-29 Thread Predrag Punosevac

Roland Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I've installed TeXLive 2007 to use /usr/local/texlive/2007 as its prefix
> and data directory, and that works fine. Everything is contained
> within that tree. It does not put things in /etc or /usr/local/etc if
> you do this. What you do need to do after building the binaries is add
> /usr/local/texlive/2007/bin/-unknown-freebsd to the path
> in /etc/login.conf.

I am considering giving a try to TeXlive these days. I take the
opportunity of this thread to ask you about your strategy to make the
TeXlive system cohabit with ports that wants teTeX.

Some ports want teTeX. If one installs both teTeX and TeXlive, one
should arrange so that TeXlive's bin directory comes before teTeX's
bin directory (/usr/local/bin), otherwise teTeX's binaries are used
instead of TeXlive's and this is not what is wanted. Is this the way
you did?

The second question is about ports that install TeX related stuff
(such as macro packages, like NOWEB do). I guess you edited texmf.cnf
to let /usr/local/share/texmf-local appear in TEXMF trees. Am I right,
and was this enough to let things run well?

To consider more FreeBSD specific issues, I have read elsethread that
some people are working on porting TeXlive to FreeBSD. When this
(awesome) work will be done, FreeBSD users will have two options to
install a TeX system from the ports: teTeX and TeXlive. These two
systems provide similar service. In such a situation, how are managed
the dependencies? How would a porter say ``This port run-depends on a
TeX system, no matter which one it is''?
-- 
Cheers,
Michaël
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Re: i810 driver problem SOLVED

2007-10-31 Thread Predrag Punosevac


Predrag Punosevac wrote:
I was wondering if anybody encountered any problems with i810 video 
driver on 7.0Beta15 current.
Namely I did yesterday a fresh installation of an older Pentium III 
machine and was unable to get X going.
I got Xorg as pkg_add -r by the way and the rest of the system was 
installed from ISO image.

Yes, I did have

Section "ServerFlags"
 Option "IgnoreAbi" "on"
EndSection

I looked carefully xorg.conf.new and the listed video driver was i810. 
I did not manually compile that driver as I thought that was included 
into XOrg( at least on two other new computers I use i810 driver and 
it was included into XOrg).
I tried though to load it manually into kernel by editing load.conf 
file. Sorry I am not enclosing  log file as  I wiped
installation. It was very late last night and I thought it will take 
me half an hour to get things working. I end up spending

3 hours.

Then I tried PC-BSD 1.4 which is 6.2 stable from July and everything 
went without a hitch.
I checked xorg.conf and I saw that the listed driver is 
Xf86-video-intel-2.1.1



Should I try to install Xf86-video-intel-2.1.1 and then just try to 
hand configure xorg.conf file.


I did notice some discussion yesterday about i810 but I thought it was 
relevant just for upgrading not for

the new installation.

Any input or suggestion will be appreciated.

Predrag Punosevac


I solved the problem after careful examination of .log file.
The default color depth of the xorg.conf file is 32 which is unsupported 
by i810 driver according to xorg message.
Setting up DefaultDepth 16 in the section "Screen" will take care of  
the problem. Changing syn vertical and horizontal syn rates is not enough.



Old DeLL dimension with FreeBSD 7.0 beta 1.5 looks to me like new:-)

I thank to all of you who tried to help me out.
Cheers
Predrag Punosevac

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PPD files vs printer drivers also LPD vs LPRng vs CUPS

2007-11-10 Thread Predrag Punosevac

I am trying to understand little bit better Unix printing. I am terribly 
confused about

the real meaning of PPD files and printer drivers.

According to this 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PostScript_Printer_Description


PPD files are post script description files that act as a drivers for 
post script printers. This seems clear to me but I have never had a post

script printer in my life.


According to same page CUPS-PPD are used by CUPS to do post-script 
printing on non-postscript printers by directing files through
CUPS-filter. Could somebody explain this things better to me. Every time 
I used CUPS the PPD files where enough to enable me printing.
Did I really use some other drivers beside these PPD files or did CUPS 
communicate with my printers with some generic driver and just

uses PPD files to do filtering.


In LPD it seems to me that this is more clear as when I run ./SETUP 
apsfilter I am really question to select the driver from the Ghostscript 
collection. I have never used LPD without the apsfilter.


What is the simplest way to send ps file to the printer that doesn't 
speak ps? If I could do that everything else is peace of cake. I read 
very carefully printing form the handbook but I want to learn more.


Could anybody explain me if there are some strong reasons for choosing 
LPD over CUPS or LPRng system (seems just GUI added on the top of LPD)
It would logical to me that LPD is safer (CUPS port has some security 
warnings) and maybe more reliable. In any case it is included in the 
base system and I prefer to use something included in the base system



Thanks to ALL
Predrag
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Re: PPD files vs printer drivers also LPD vs LPRng vs CUPS

2007-11-10 Thread Predrag Punosevac

Predrag Punosevac wrote:
I am trying to understand little bit better Unix printing. I am
terribly confused about

the real meaning of PPD files and printer drivers.

According to this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PostScript_Printer_Description

PPD files are post script description files that act as a drivers for
post script printers. This seems clear to me but I have never had a post

script printer in my life.

According to same page CUPS-PPD are used by CUPS to do post-script
printing on non-postscript printers by directing files through
CUPS-filter. Could somebody explain this things better to me. Every
time I used CUPS the PPD files where enough to enable me printing.
Did I really use some other drivers beside these PPD files or did CUPS
communicate with my printers with some generic driver and just

uses PPD files to do filtering.

In LPD it seems to me that this is more clear as when I run ./SETUP
apsfilter I am really question to select the driver from the
Ghostscript collection. I have never used LPD without the apsfilter.

What is the simplest way to send ps file to the printer that doesn't
speak ps? If I could do that everything else is peace of cake. I read
very carefully printing form the handbook but I want to learn more.

Could anybody explain me if there are some strong reasons for choosing
LPD over CUPS or LPRng system (seems just GUI added on the top of LPD)
It would logical to me that LPD is safer (CUPS port has some security
warnings) and maybe more reliable. In any case it is included in the
base system and I prefer to use something included in the base system

Thanks to ALL
Predrag
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This seems
http://www.linuxprinting.org/kpfeifle/LinuxKongress2002/Tutorial/III.PostScript-and-PPDs/III.PostScript-and-PPDs.html

like a good starting point for my questions.

Any Adobe or CUPS developers around that can give me more information.
What should I read?

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Re: Problems with X

2007-11-18 Thread Predrag Punosevac


Frank Shute wrote:

On Sun, Nov 18, 2007 at 09:27:53PM +, Desmond Chapman wrote:
  

I've done a minimal install of FreeBSD and followed a suggestion of
enabling cvsup/csup from the command line.  Xorg-7.3 was installed.
However, the command of xorgcfg and xorgxonfig was not. 



I'm not too sure what you mean by that but I take it to mean that
you've installed X but havent configured it yet. The handbook explains
what to do:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.html

  

How do I enable the Xdisplay?



Just follow what they do in the handbook in the link above.

  
Is xorgcfg a package to be installed? 



No. xorg.conf is a file which lives in /etc/X11/xorg.conf but you have
to put it there once you've created it with:

# Xorg -configure

and tested it with:

# Xorg -config xorg.conf.new

It might need some tweaking (editing) e.g French keyboard instead of
English. Then do:

# cp ./xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf

and try starting X:

$ startx

If those commands aren't found, then you either need to rehash your
shell:

# rehash

or you haven't installed X properly. How did you install X?

  

Are the others the same way?



Sorry. I don't know what you mean.

  

Is xorg-7.3 manually configured only?



As above.
 
  

I am asking for help to a problem that I am unable to solve.  Anyone
that has any knowledge of how I can solve this problem please let me
know.

Thank you. 



HTH but let us know if anything is not clear or you have further
problems.

  
If you are used to command xorgcfg which is really  XF86cfg (XF86free is 
still used by NetBSD for instance)

I noticed myself that is not the part of XOrg 7.3.
I love the command but when I tried to use it on my installations in 
couple last months (since XOrg 7.3 I also get

that command is not found)
Besides suggested Xorg -configure you could use xorgconfig (there is no 
x) which is purely text based and more or less does what xorgcfg used to 
do but in the interactive text mode.


Xorg -configure is smart but I also noticed that is leaving out on 
regular basis DefaultDepth line and more over assumes something like 32 
which is impossible for my old computers.
Refreshing Rates  lines were present on some installations but often 
missing.



Best,
Predrag
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Re: (off topic?) Best desktop

2007-11-23 Thread Predrag Punosevac


Aryeh M. Friedman wrote:

I have used gnome for several years now after finding kde lacking in
features but just tried kde and have to say I like the programs it
comes with (but I find gnome easier to use) I also know there are
other desktops out there (as being defined as a something more then a
high end window manager)... which is best?  My work load is that of a
typical business owner and CS grad student/Java developer plus acting
as my TV (don't have one and don't have any kind of reception [too far
in the country {and do not which to have cable}]) via dl'ed shows

  

I like to make my own "desktop".


Predrag's Recipe for Desktop Happiness:

Take OpenBox3, Xfce4-panel, Rox-filer & feh +applications you like like.
Edit .xsession as follows

feh --bg-scale /path to wall paper image & xfce4-panel & exec openbox

After you have all the applications you like fill in the Openbox menu 
using the application


menumaker as follows mmaker openbox.

edit your /etc/ttys as
ttyv8   "/usr/X11R6/bin/xdm -nodaemon"  xterm   on  secure


Restart your computer

You will be greeted by X desktop manager. When you log into your 
.xsession you will have xfce-panel, openbox as WM,

Rox as you file manager and beautiful wallpaper set by feh.

Applications would be cheery picked by you so there is no worry that you 
will have any that you do not like it.


You can further customized XDM front page and xterm. I prefer xterm to 
any other terminal as it is lightest. I do agree that is somewhat

tricky to customize for a noob.

Above desktop is about as light and responsive as it gets. If you want 
even lighter forget about xfce4-panel.

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Re: (off topic?) Best desktop

2007-11-24 Thread Predrag Punosevac


Aryeh M. Friedman wrote:

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On 23/11/2007, Predrag Punosevac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Aryeh M. Friedman wrote:
  

[...]


I like to make my own "desktop".

  

Sounds familiar. :-)


Predrag's Recipe for Desktop Happiness:

Take OpenBox3, Xfce4-panel, Rox-filer & feh +applications you like like.
Edit .xsession as follows

  


Well I pretty much went this way:

abrwm (evilwm) (tinywm didn't have vwindows), fbpanel, xv, idesk,
transset-dt, I have not selected a fm yet...  For the most part I
really like it (lean and mean) but one feature that several my apps
support is transparent windows but seems abrwm for what ever reason
doesn't support this and will completely ignore any windows with it...
so I am looking for the next smallest wm that can do virtual windows
and transparency... I know openbox, ion, xfwm all can do it but want
something even lighter.

  

There is a very good review of all available WM http://xwinman.org/
I checked once and I think more or less all of them are ported to FreeBSD.
Have you pick. Be happy:-)

Cheers
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Re: Having problems burning a DVD

2007-11-24 Thread Predrag Punosevac


Andrew Falanga wrote:

Ok, I've made copies of the DVDs I want to burn.  I used the technique
described in this thread, "duplicating a dvd video" started by a "Dave" back
in July.  Basically, the technique is nothing more than a copy of the disk,
"cp /dev/acd0 /path/to/*.iso."

I'm going off of the instructions in the Handbook for burning DVD video's
and such.  The dvd utilities were already installed so I didn't have to
worry about that.  I added the line, hw.ata.atapi_dma="1" as described in
the handbook.  Rebooted and I'm still getting this error when I use the
command growisofs -Z /dev/acd0 -dvd-video /usr/local/dvds/whereisGod1.iso:

:-( unable to CAMGETPASSTHRU for /dev/acd0: Inappropriate ioctl for device

>From dmesg, my DVD burner is:
acd0: DVDR  at ata1-master UDMA33

I looked through the list of DVD drives from the handbook and I didn't see
mine listed and therefore take that to mean folks don't usually have
problems with this drive.  So, what am I doing wrong?

Andy
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I think you are probably missing

permxpt00666
permpass0   0666



Mine /etc/devfs.conf

# Commonly used by many ports  
link  cd0 cdrom

link  cd0  dvd
link  cd0  rdvd

link  acd0 cdrom
link  acd0 dvd
link  acd0 rdvd


# Misc other devices

permcdrom   0666
permdvd 0666
permrdvd0666
permcd0 0666
permacd0   0666
permxpt00666
permpass0   0666

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Re: Having problems burning a DVD

2007-11-25 Thread Predrag Punosevac


Harry Matthiesen Jensen wrote:

On Sat, Nov 24, 2007 at 12:45:33PM -0700, Predrag Punosevac wrote:
  
  
  

I think you are probably missing

permxpt00666
permpass0   0666



Which file are these to be set in?

  

# Misc other devices

permcdrom   0666
permdvd 0666
permrdvd0666
permcd0 0666
permacd0   0666
permxpt00666
permpass0   0666



..and where to set these?

Are all to be set in devfs.conf?

Thanks in advance

  




Yes, they should be set in /etc/devfs.conf if you want to use something 
like K3b but I was rushing to post and I think you got much better 
advices from other people.


Read very carefully

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/creating-dvds.html

and follow every step. You should try to burn your first DVD from the 
command line as a supper user!
Just to make your life easier if you have newer DVD-RW it is probably 
ATAPI.

Best
Predrag


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Re: K3b

2007-11-25 Thread Predrag Punosevac


ajtiM wrote:

Hi!

I am new with FreeBSD. I installed one day ago 7.0 beta3 and I try to learn 
and setup the system.

When I start K3b (KDE) I got a message:

"No CD/DVD writer found.
K3b did not find an optical writing device in your system. Thus, you will not 
be able to burn CDs or DVDs. However, you can still use other K3b features 
like audio track extraction or audio transcoding or ISO9660 image creation."


I tired as user and as root but resul is the same.

BTW: under Linux I didn't have a problem

Thanks in advance.
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You have not done your homework.

Probably the following would be enough

[pedja@ /usr/home/Pedja]$ more /boot/loader.conf
atapicam_load="YES"
hw.ata.ata_dma="1"
hw.ata.atapi_dma="1"


You also need to add the following into your /etc/devfs.conf file

# Allow members of the group operator to mount CD-ROMs.

perm  /dev/acd0   0666
perm  /dev/cd00666

# Commonly used by many ports  
link  cd0 cdrom

link  cd0  dvd
link  cd0  rdvd

link  acd0 cdrom
link  acd0 dvd
link  acd0 rdvd


# Misc other devices

permcdrom   0666
permdvd 0666
permrdvd0666
permxpt00666
permpass0   0666

I am not sure if you need HAL as mine is ON  on this computer  on  
which  K3b  works  flawlessly. You will have to read handbook and

the following is useful  http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/.


BTW: I really gets annoyed when people say by the way it works in Linux, 
Windows, Solaris or whatever.

What is that suppose to mean?



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Re: K3b

2007-11-25 Thread Predrag Punosevac


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

BTW: I really gets annoyed when people say by the way
it works in Linux, Windows, Solaris or whatever.
What is that suppose to mean?



When someone describes a problem getting a certain hardware setup
to work as desired in FreeBSD, and reports that it works in some
other OS, I would take it to mean that one need not suggest testing
the hardware, since it is already known to work properly in the
other environment.  For someone who happens to be familiar with
whatever other OS was mentioned, it may also serve as an example
of the sort of operation that the poster was attempting to achieve
in FreeBSD.
  
I realized after replaying to the mail! I apologize to the sender of the 
original message for the tone of my post.

Cheers,
Predrag
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Re: HP Deskjet 9800 with hpijs driver

2007-11-26 Thread Predrag Punosevac


Aryeh M. Friedman wrote:

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Erin McNew wrote:
  

I've been trying to get my photo printer working recently, and seem to have
run into a bit of a snag.  I just tried to print out a picture as a test,
and instead of a picture, I got: PCL commands across the top of one page of
photo paper, and the printer spewed the rest of my paper out empty (taught
me an important lesson about testing without having large quantities of
photo paper in the printer...)
Anyway, I was looking on google, and I don't seem to see other people


having
  

this problem, but I'm not sure what I could've done wrong.  I'm using the
hpijs driver, which is supposed to work perfectly under linux, and works
perfectly for my other hp printer.  Is this printer just not supported by
FreeBSD?  I couldn't find anything that stated directly either way in my
quick googling, so I was hoping somebody here might have some ideas for
things to check, etc.



My 6980 has the same problem with hpijs and hplip... try cups (it
should autodetect)


  
Printing under Linux and FreeBSD are for all practical purposes 
identical. If it works under Linux is should work under FreeBSD.

Which printer spooler are you using LPD, LPRng, CUPS, HPLIP/CUPS or PDQ?

I personally like to use native LPD spooler. Since your printer is 
supported by hpijs the driver is included in apsfilter (or apsfilter 
will install hpijs port by default) which  you compile form ports 
/usr/ports/print/apsfilter


lpd_enable="YES" in  /etc/rc.conf file 


Alter the permission so that the daemon can access the printer as

/etc/devfs.conf

perm lpt0 0666 #for parallel port printer
perm ulpt0 0666 #for USB printer

Then cd /usr/local/share/apsfilter and run the script ./SETUP

The rest is self-explanatory. If you get a message about your version of 
ghostscript just ignore. You probably have much newer version of 
Ghostscript than apsfilter expect to find.
The apsfilter is more than a filter. It will help you edit your printcup 
file, it will convert files to ps and finally it will let you choose the 
drivers .
The only drivers which from the apsfilter list are gutenprint drivers. 
If you need them make sure your compile gutenprint with the tag

without CUPS.

||
If you need more complicated printer policies you probably want to use 
LPRng or CUPS.


This is the link to beautiful HPLIP  how to 
http://dsteinbrook.googlepages.com/hpliponfreebsd

Make sure you read the thing about the kernel.

Bare in mind couple of thins. HPLIP does not support parallel port 
printers! Whatever they say on HPLIP forum is lie. They do not despite
the fact that hpijs did. They support parallel port printers which are 
free standing printer servers via the web not by attaching them directly.


The proper way to enable HPLIP is to start HPLIP daemons first and than 
CUPS daemon by let say editing /etc/rc.conf file and rebooting.
The proper way to add the printer to HPLIP is to use CUPS 
http://localhost:631 and add the printer and then use HPLIP-toolbox and 
other

goodies.

HPLIP will just unlock full functionality of your printer. (Toner 
status, all in one devices etc)


Do not forget to put lpd_enable="NO" in /etc/rc.conf and hide native 
lp,lps,lpr,lpq commands so that you can use the same CUPS commands.


If you need PPD file for your printer you can download from 
http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/OpenPrinting

but you can also generate your own using foomantic-rip.

I gave you sort of general how to. If you have more specific questions 
and can generate some log files that would help a lot.


Cheers,
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Re: Desktop printing, a request for your experiences

2007-11-26 Thread Predrag Punosevac


Dominic Marks wrote:

List,

Can anyone give me their experiences of desktop printing
(OpenOffice/KDE/Gnome/Mozilla Firefox and Thunderbird, etc) recently?
I haven't tried for a while but it was a pain to setup and maintain 
the last

time I looked at it.

If you are using this for "real-work" and you are getting good results 
please

let me know what you are using (software and hardware ideally).

The environment I would like to put this into is a family house, very 
small

setup with 2 PCs and 2 printers. Currently both are Windows PCs but
one is experiencing all of the classic issues with a multi-year Windows
installation and since they are used exclusively for E-Mail and word
processing I am interested in migrating one PC over to FreeBSD.

.. If the solution was a Linux distro (box package, or otherwise) I would
also be interested.
... I am not a subscriber so please keep me CC'ed in the discussion.

Cheers
Dominic
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My printing works perfect on all my machines (6 in total) and 2 
printers. including printing from applications like Gimp.
Printers are HP OfficeJet R60 and HP LaserJet 4L. I used both CUPS and 
LPD + apsfilter. I prefer LPD+apsfilter in particularly
since LPD is included in base distribution. I have not played too much 
with LPRng+ifhp but I was able to set up basic printing in 30 minutes 
using that spooling system as well.


I noticed that many applications have substandard built in ps filters. 
CUPS base filter cannot print dvi files :-(.

I found a2ps useful for conversion to ps.

Cheers,
Predrag


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Re: HP Deskjet 9800 with hpijs driver

2007-11-26 Thread Predrag Punosevac


Erin McNew wrote:

On Nov 25, 2007 11:27 PM, Matthias Apitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  

El día Sunday, November 25, 2007 a las 10:23:05PM -0800, Erin McNew
escribió:



I've been trying to get my photo printer working recently, and seem to
  

have


run into a bit of a snag.  I just tried to print out a picture as a
  

test,


and instead of a picture, I got: PCL commands across the top of one page
  

of


photo paper, and the printer spewed the rest of my paper out empty
  

(taught


me an important lesson about testing without having large quantities of
photo paper in the printer...)
Anyway, I was looking on google, and I don't seem to see other people
  

having


this problem, but I'm not sure what I could've done wrong.  I'm using
  

the


hpijs driver, which is supposed to work perfectly under linux, and works
perfectly for my other hp printer.  Is this printer just not supported
  

by


FreeBSD?  I couldn't find anything that stated directly either way in my
quick googling, so I was hoping somebody here might have some ideas for
things to check, etc.

Thanks!
~TuxGirl
  

Maybe it could help if you explain exactly how do you print the
file, from command line or from some kind of application?
The PCL across the top of one page, does it looks like stairs?
I.e. does start the 2nd line where 1st line ends?

   matthias




Ok.  Let's see what other information I can provide.

I was printing from the gimp.  I looked at the printer setup, and it said
that it was using lpr.
As for the PCL, the first line was pretty short, and the second line did
start indented.  I don't recall if it started where the first ended, but if
not, it was close to that.  I couldn't see any further lines, but apparently
there were more, as the printer kept spitting out pages...

Thanks!
~Erin

  



That is a probably a Gimp problem. You have to configure printing on 
Gimp before you start printing. What kind of ps filter does Gimp use? 
What happens when you manually pass your image through a2ps filter and 
try to print that ps file. Do you still have bad image?


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Re: 7.0 installation, and Xorg in particular

2007-11-28 Thread Predrag Punosevac


Freminlins wrote:

I used to find FreeBSD easy. What has happened? I have a couple of machines
I usually install new versions on, one is headless the other is a desktop
machine (which was a 100% reliable 5.4 installation). I boot the headless
machine using floppies, then install across the net. But something has
happened such that I now need five floppies, and I have to put the boot one
in at least twice. This wasn't the case previously. It now reminds me of an
OS/2 installation with its floppy shuffling.

Then for my desktop machine. sysinstall crashes if I try to install x.org.
So I do a pkg_add -r xorg. After about 70 packages I give up. I only used to
have about 65 packages in total on my old desktop, now I need more than 70
and I haven't even got x windows up yet. So I go off and have a look and
discover that x.org 7.x is modular - "
http://blogs.ittoolbox.com/unix/bsd/archives/xorg-72-on-freebsd-13661";. This
fellow is talking about 300 packages just for x.org! This is nuts. No two
ways about it. Whoever decided to do this needs their head (or heads)
examined. It used to be so simple. Now it's not. If x.org didn't work for
some reason I wouldn't want to track down which of hundreds of packages is
missing. Who would? Also, I noticed that python as well as perl was being
installed. Is not one scripting language enough for x.org? Why are two
needed?

I am really frustrated. I don't understand how installing X* this way is
supposed to be an improvement. What does it actually give me that I didn't
have before? Note my old system was reliable, as is my desktop at work (a
6.2 machine). I was so frustrated that I gave up installing 7 on my home
desktop and am now in Windows land. It just seems so pointless. It reminds
me of the nastiness of Gnome, which has bazillions of packages, and Gnome
needs nearly all of them so why make them separate?

I've done enough head banging tonight. Maybe Xfree86 is still available. I
haven't looked yet.


Frem.
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NetBSD still uses Xfree86 and complete installation including X is 
200Mb. All packages of NetBSD are adjusted to use Xfree86.
You  system install crashed probably because of false assumptions on 
your part during the installation. 7.0 beta is  NOT release.
Xorg should be installed after the installation using ports or pkg_add . 
Ports three should be taken after the installation by portsnap utility.


As of number of floppies I really could not comment on it. I did FTP 
installation that went without a hitch but booted a computer

from the 5Mb CD.

I really like OpenBSD FTP installation and the fact that you need only 
one floppy but in total they have five floppies depends on
the type of machine you want to boot and for some you will need I think 
three.
I do not know if creation of such specialized boot floppies would be 
possible for FreeBSD. It seems  that  younger  generation  does not

even use floppies any more:-)

What can I say. Major part of your letter is concerning XOrg which is 
not really a part of OS.

Yes they went modular and made some significant changes.

Best,
Predrag
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Re: K3b

2007-11-28 Thread Predrag Punosevac


ajtiM wrote:

On Sunday 25 November 2007 21:58:03 you wrote:
  

ajtiM wrote:


Hi!

I am new with FreeBSD. I installed one day ago 7.0 beta3 and I try to
learn and setup the system.
When I start K3b (KDE) I got a message:

"No CD/DVD writer found.
K3b did not find an optical writing device in your system. Thus, you will
not be able to burn CDs or DVDs. However, you can still use other K3b
features like audio track extraction or audio transcoding or ISO9660
image creation."

I tired as user and as root but resul is the same.

BTW: under Linux I didn't have a problem

Thanks in advance.
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You have not done your homework.

Probably the following would be enough

[pedja@ /usr/home/Pedja]$ more /boot/loader.conf
atapicam_load="YES"
hw.ata.ata_dma="1"
hw.ata.atapi_dma="1"


You also need to add the following into your /etc/devfs.conf file

# Allow members of the group operator to mount CD-ROMs.

perm  /dev/acd0   0666
perm  /dev/cd00666

# Commonly used by many ports
link  cd0 cdrom
link  cd0  dvd
link  cd0  rdvd

link  acd0 cdrom
link  acd0 dvd
link  acd0 rdvd


# Misc other devices

permcdrom   0666
permdvd 0666
permrdvd0666
permxpt00666
permpass0   0666

I am not sure if you need HAL as mine is ON  on this computer  on
which  K3b  works  flawlessly. You will have to read handbook and
the following is useful  http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/.


BTW: I really gets annoyed when people say by the way it works in Linux,
Windows, Solaris or whatever.
What is that suppose to mean?


That is nothing wrong with hardware :)
  
I realized that. I hope you saw my apology. I do know however why you 
can not use it as a user. You have to mount the disk on the file system 
that belongs to you not the root.


So edit your /etc/fstab file as this

#These are my options
/dev/cd0 /usr/home/Pedja/mnt/cdrom cd9660   rw, noauto  0   0
/dev/acd0/usr/home/Pedja/mnt/cdrom cd9660   rw, noauto  0   0


and you should be good too go. That was exactly what I meant by saying 
that I do not know if you need HAL.

You do not need HAL but you need to edit your /etc/fstab.

Cheers,
Predrag




Thank you...I did but as user I couldn't use K3b but as root works.
  


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Re: PDF_toTEXT Port /Package Is ther For FreeBSD-6.2 version ?

2007-11-29 Thread Predrag Punosevac





dhaneshk k wrote:

Hi fiiends;

   I need PDF to Text converter Program in My FreeBSD6.2 Server :

CAn any one please point out is ther a PORT for PDF_to_TEXT   conversion OR how 
to install this utility .

Any hints most welcome

Thanks in Advance 
Dhanesh



  

My friend,
You already have converter on your computer:-) Ghostscript!
Just type pdf2ps filename.pdf and then you can convert ps to ascii i 
with the command ps2ascii.
If I remember well you can convert pdf directly to ascii but I forgot 
how. I think something like pdftoacsii or pdf2ascii


In any case the software you want is not among converters but rather it 
is in print. (ghostscript and I think dvips is useful to have) .
There was a thread about 3 months ago when we went systematically over 
all converters.


Just look the archive.

Cheers,
Predrag







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Re: laptop

2007-12-02 Thread Predrag Punosevac


Pandy, James R SGT NG NG FORSCOM wrote:

Hello

How is it going.

I'm geting ready to go over to Iraq on Dec 6th.

I've used Linux for a few years now. A frind of mine sead that he would set up 
a laptop for me with FreeBSD as soon as I pick one up.  I will not use 
MicroSoft WinBlows

I looking to do mostly games on it but I'll also use it for the net and other 
things.

If you were me what laptop would you look for. I'm thinking of the P4 type mabe 
a dule cord, around $700 to $1000 on ebay.

If you need to get ahold of my here is 2 e-mail address:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thank you for any help that you can give me on this.

  



ThinkPad T23 is around $200 and ThinkPad T30 is around $300. They would 
work like a charm with FreeBSD.
If you are going to spend $500 you might as well by new lap top. 
Personally, I would not buy anything else but ThinkPad T series.




Best,
Predrag

James Pandy
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Re: laptop

2007-12-02 Thread Predrag Punosevac


James A. Harrison wrote:

Pandy, James R SGT NG NG FORSCOM wrote:


Hello

How is it going.

I'm geting ready to go over to Iraq on Dec 6th.

I've used Linux for a few years now. A frind of mine sead that he would
set up a laptop for me with FreeBSD as soon as I pick one up.  I will
not use MicroSoft WinBlows

I looking to do mostly games on it but I'll also use it for the net and
other things.

If you were me what laptop would you look for. I'm thinking of the P4
type mabe a dule cord, around $700 to $1000 on ebay.

If you need to get ahold of my here is 2 e-mail address:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thank you for any help that you can give me on this.


  

ThinkPad T23 is around $200 and ThinkPad T30 is around $300. They would
work like a charm with FreeBSD.
If you are going to spend $500 you might as well by new lap top.
Personally, I would not buy anything else but ThinkPad T series.



Best,
Predrag


James Pandy
  



Where are you finding the T23 for $200? Presumably that's not US dollars,
because even Ebay isn't showing a thinkpad for $200.

James
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They might be more now because of holidays but they are generally around 
$200 + shipping $35-50. Also T30 is around $300

more likely to be $330-340 + shipping.

It is in U. S. dollars

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Re: FreeBSD for Sony Playstation3?

2007-12-02 Thread Predrag Punosevac

Joshua Isom wrote:

On Nov 30, 2007, at 11:48 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

... will FreeBSD.org consider porting FreeBSD to Sony
Playstation3?

... NetBSD works like a charm on Sony Playstation2
http://www.netbsd.org/ports/playstation2/.

and my guess will be that NetBSD 4.0 which is supposed to
be released about the same time as FreeBSD 7.0 will work
on Playstation3.

The IBM Cell processor in the PS3 is unique beast, similar in many
ways to a PPC970 but with enough subtle (and some not-so-subtle)
differences that the port would likely need to be overseen by
someone familiar with such undertakings.  This is not to predict
that NetBSD 4.0 will or won't support it -- that could reasonably
be asked on a NetBSD list -- but be aware that it may turn out to
be a bigger job than one might initially expect.

Also don't forget, since it is a multiprocessor system, there's the 
difference between booting the OS and userland and taking full 
advantage of the hardware.

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I just stumbled to this thing on NetBSD mailing list so I decided to 
share with you.

Subject: Re: Please update the site
To: Vivek Ayer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: Martin Husemann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
List: port-playstation2
Date: 10/20/2007 01:37:06

On Fri, Oct 19, 2007 at 06:04:51PM -0400, Vivek Ayer wrote:
> port. That new entry is almost 3 years old. Surely, there must bugs
> and stuff to track in NetBSD/PS2 3.1.

Unfortunately, due to missing toolchain support in newer gcc and binutils
versions, NetBSD/playstation2 is a dying port.

I anyone would find time to port the EE patches at least to a more
modern binutils, this would be very much appreciated.

Martin

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Re: Scanner Compatibility

2007-12-06 Thread Predrag Punosevac


Jason C. Wells wrote:

Does this represent the state of the art in scanners under FreeBSD?

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/scanners.html

Any other up to the minute tips on purchasing a scanner?  Does 
7.0-RELEASE present any new issues?


Thanks,
Jason C. Wells
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That article is very well written. The only thing that is not emphasized 
enough is that lots of scanners do require firmware (binary blobs)
that you have to extract from M$ .cab files.  (You will need to use 
/usr/ports/archievers/cabextract program to do so).

You definitely want to look very carefully the list of supported devices

http://www.sane-project.org/sane-supported-devices.html

before you make a purchase.

I do believe that Epson scanners are probably best solutions for 
Unix/Linux scanning.


I use Epson Perfection 1670 and it works like a charm. Unfortunately it 
does require binary blob which might be something you want to avoid.


The another option is to look the list of devices supported by HPLIP 
drivers. HPLIP drivers  enable  full functionality of many all-in-one HP 
products and  also HPLIP can unlock some HP flat bad scanners that where 
problematic in the past.


Bottom line is that you have to do your homework.

If you need step by step instructions how to install scanner you might 
contact me via private mail.


Best,
Predrag
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Re: help wanted configuring HPLIP

2007-12-07 Thread Predrag Punosevac


Robert Huff wrote:

I've got it installed, see the post-install configuration
message, and have questions about how it will interact with existing
printers.


Robert Huff
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You might want to repeat your message as attachments are stripped by the 
FreeBSD mail server.


For generic informatin

http://dsteinbrook.googlepages.com/hpliponfreebsd

Make sure you start HPLIP daemons before the CUPS daemon.  Make  sure  
you understand  the part of the article about the kernel!
ulpt driver must be out of kernel!!! Make sure you add printers using 
http://localhost:631 before you go to HP management program.


Finally, parallel printers are not supported by HPLIP no matter what 
they say. They are only supported if you could attach them directly to 
the local network on the very specific way. Also there is  whole class 
of HP printers that  not supported as they use  very unusual protocol

to communicate with the printer server

Qoute from HPLIP website.

Question: Are drivers available for the Deskjet 710C, 712C, 720C, 722C, 
820Cse, 820Cxi, 1000Cse, 1000Cxi; or LaserJet 1000, 1005, 1020, 3100; or 
Color LaserJet 1500, 2600 printers?


Answer: These are non-standard host based printers. Currently there are 
no plans to support these printers in HPLIP. Ghostscript print filters 
for the Deskjet products can be found at the pnm2ppa project.




These printers are supported with 
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/url.cgi?ports/print/foo2zjs/pkg-descr driver 
and I personally would not waist

my time with them.

If you are managing printers in your company the best decision that you 
could make is to have only printers that can speak postscript language 
and not worry about drivers to begin with.



HPLIP is the great thing if you want to get full functionality from you 
ALL-IN-ONE devices (including scanning) and things like toner option.


Printers however on your network will still be managed by CUPS spooling 
system. I believe that HPLIP cannot work with other spooling systems 
that you might like better than CUPS so that could be also another 
reason always to use printers that can speak postscript language.


Best,
Predrag
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Re: Scanner Compatibility


Michaël Grünewald wrote:

Predrag Punosevac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

  

I use Epson Perfection 1670 and it works like a charm. Unfortunately
it does require binary blob which might be something you want to
avoid.



What is that binary blob stuff? Do you mean by this a binary image
that should be loaded in kernel --- after being correctly wrapped just
like some wifi card drivers? If this is the case, there is no chance
to make the blob work under amd64, is there?

  

Ok,
Let me clarify firstly some things. Firmware is a binary file which you 
extract in this case from the M$ .cab  file supplied to you by
scanner manufacturer. You place this file on proper file 
/usr/local/share/sane/snapscan. (So it is different than a kernel module 
for Wi drivers that you kldload into your kernel) I have never bothered 
to understand scanning as much as I tried to understand Unix printing 
but I believe that this file is used by sane to speak proprietary 
language of your particular scanner. In essence your scanner uses this 
file to explain the Sane the page layout and graphics. So it is not a 
driver! I am not sure if there is such thing as Command  Scanner 
Language (you are probably familiar with Command Printer Language) and 
something equivalent to Postscript language in world of printers.



Anyhow, if you are serious about security you should never use any type 
of binaries supported by hardware vendors. (I sound if I have been using 
too much OpenBSD lately :-) )


I see no reason why should sane-backhands work any different on amd64. 
On another hand if you are using amd64 that tells me that you are 
running serious production servers so why would you want to attach a 
scanner to  such  machine is not really clear to me.
You may attach a scanner to a workstation running i386 and possibly make 
scanning available  on the local network but never to serious production 
server.





If you need step by step instructions how to install scanner you
might contact me via private mail.



I am very interested in this kind of technical information, since I do
foreplan to buy a scanner. If you really think[1] this discussion would
be a nuisance for the list, would you be kind enough to CC me?

[1] One can consider that even if the discussion topic does not hit
most of its members, it can be useful to contribute here these
technical details because they will be archived and could then be
referenced in future discussions, searched, etc.
  
As I said before the handbook is excellent but here is my quick and 
dirty step by step how to for scanners.



For the purposes of this how to I will assume that your scanner is 
attached via USB to your workstation. (You can read the handbook about 
SCSI scanners)



Step 1  Make sure  your  kernel  contains  the  following (Generic 
Kernel will contain it!!!)


device usb
device uhci
device ohci
device uscanner

Step 2 Edit /etc/devfs.conf with the permissions

perm ugen* 0666
perm uscanner* 0666

This is of course huge security risk and there are much better ways to 
give access to sane-backhands and common users to device nodes.




Step 3 Reboot the computer

Step 4 Type $ scanimage -L as a common user to get a list of detected 
scanners. You should get something as


[pedja@ /usr/home/Pedja]$ scanimage -L
device `snapscan:/dev/uscanner0' is a EPSON EPSON Scanner flatbed scanner


Step 5 Type $ scanimage -T as a common user to test the installation. 
You should get something like this if your

scanner does not need binary blob.

[pedja@ /usr/home/Pedja]$ scanimage -T
scanimage: scanning image of size 2552x3507 pixels at 24 bits/pixel
scanimage: acquiring RGB frame, 8 bits/sample
scanimage: reading one scanline, 7656 bytes...  PASS
scanimage: reading one byte...  PASS
scanimage: stepped read, 2 bytes... PASS
scanimage: stepped read, 4 bytes... PASS
scanimage: stepped read, 8 bytes... PASS
scanimage: stepped read, 16 bytes...PASS
scanimage: stepped read, 32 bytes...PASS
scanimage: stepped read, 64 bytes...PASS
scanimage: stepped read, 128 bytes...   PASS
scanimage: stepped read, 256 bytes...   PASS
scanimage: stepped read, 512 bytes...   PASS
scanimage: stepped read, 1024 bytes...  PASS
scanimage: stepped read, 2048 bytes...  PASS
scanimage: stepped read, 4096 bytes...  PASS
scanimage: stepped read, 8192 bytes...  PASS
scanimage: stepped read, 8191 bytes...  PASS
scanimage: stepped read, 4095 bytes...  PASS
scanimage: stepped read, 2047 bytes...  PASS
scanimage: stepped read, 1023 bytes...  PASS
scanimage: stepped read, 511 bytes...   PASS
scanimage: stepped read, 255 bytes...   PASS
scanimage: stepped read, 127 bytes...   PASS
scanimage: stepped read, 63 bytes...PASS
scanimage: stepped read, 31 bytes...PASS
scanimage: stepped read, 15 bytes...PASS
scanimage: stepped read, 7 bytes... PASS
scanimage: stepped read, 3 bytes... PASS


Note: All of the above is very well explained in man scanimage

Re: DVD's and FreeBSD

2007-12-07 Thread Predrag Punosevac


Gary Kline wrote:

Update:

Well, totem chokes when trying to play a DVD,
Totem is not good DVD player and that has to do nothing with the 
FreeBSD, OpenBSD or whatever Linux you want to use. You may read
here why is so difficult to use DVDs 
http://www.dvddemystified.com/dvdfaq.html


Ogle is by far the best DVD player but VLC and MPlayer are able to play 
stunning number of different proprietary and non-proprietary video and 
audio formats.



 but kmplayer works
--altho with fewer control flow options.  And after compiling
	in "device atapicam" into my KERNCONF, k3b still chokes.   
K3b works fine or I should say as good as on any of major Linux 
distribution. Something is wrong with your configuration.

Read very carefully

$ make showinfo /usr/ports/sysutils/k3b




So.
For "toys", Linux; for superior [unbeatable] stability, FreeBSD
is still first rate.

gary
  
Depends what you mean by playing. Some people use Flash or Java for work 
and FreeBSD is definitely not for them.
For me personally works boot as a professional tool and as life-stile 
OS. But then it doesn't work for my mother in law and probably

it doesn't work for 99% of other casual computer users.

Cheers,
Predrag


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Re: Scanner Compatibility


Michaël Grünewald wrote:

Predrag Punosevac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

  

Let me clarify firstly some things.



Thank you very much for this very detailed answer, it's very nice
from you!

  [SNIP]

  

In essence your scanner uses this file to explain the Sane the page
layout and graphics. So it is not a driver!



If I do understand, this seems a close analogue of PPL files in the
printing world, right?

[SNAP]
  



You meant PPD files? (Of course there is subtitle difference between 
CUPS-PPD files and generic PPD files used by LPD).
My hunch is yes but I have not read enough documentation to say yes or 
no. I would really like to hear from some Sane developers or

IT professional who works on scanners who will give us more explanation.
So far my understanding is following. The kernel recognizes your 
scanning device using the  uscanner0 driver and usb daemon as it is 
attached to USB.
Sane-backhands and Sane-fronthands is a collection of drivers that speak 
scanner language. As a mater of fact it used to be that you need one 
driver per application  per scanner (like printing in old times) but I 
think that one of chef achievements of Sane project is to automatize 
writing drivers so that you need to write one driver per application and 
then hack it to work on all supported scanners.  Firmware is dictionary 
which teach sane backhand to speak proprietary language of a particular 
scanner. So it is  something like this
  
scanner<---> uscanner0<>sane-backhands<> Xsane

 ^
  |
   firmware

  

I see no reason why should sane-backhands work any different on
amd64.



Now you made clear that these binary blobs consist of data (and not
of a cpu program), I do not see either. I will soon be able to tell :)

  
Does the generic kernel on for amd64 contains the same drivers as for 
i386? Also kernel driver like uscanner and  even  usb daemon  might
be on the different level of the development than in i386 as they really 
need to interact to  different amd64 kernel.

A kernel developer could easily clarify this for us.



On another hand if you are using amd64 that tells me that you
are running serious production servers so why would you want to attach
a scanner to  such  machine is not really clear to me.



In fact, I have no serious reason to run amd64 since I use my amd64
computer as a ``user workstation'' and the main benefit from running
amd64 is to manage huge amounts of RAM --- as far as I can tell from
the various docs I have read. My reasons to run amd64 are mainly geeky
or childish :)

  
I hope you do not have 32 Gb of RAM as my neighbor who is a gamer  and 
passionately in love with
Windows Vista:-) On another hand those gamers are the reason that I can 
go to junk yard and get a

PIII with 512 Mb of RAM and 10Gb Hard-drive for $5. I am a happy camper!


As I said before the handbook is excellent but here is my quick and
dirty step by step how to for scanners.



[SNIP]

Thanks a lot for this con tribution,
  
I realized that Handbook article about scanner could be appended but 
there are people on this mailing lists who are qualified to do so

unlike me.

Cheers,
Predrag
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SANE Network Daemon question

I was just looking at the documentation on SANE web-site about network 
scanning

and I noticed that /etc/services on my i386 does not include line like

sane-port  6566/tcp  # SANE network scanner daemon

which is used by saned (Sane Network Daemon to enable scanning over the 
network).
The /etc/inetd.conf file is also missing line (of course should be 
commented by default)


sane-port  stream  tcp  nowait  saned.saned  /usr/local/sbin/saned saned

The handbook is  also  mute  about  the  scanning over the network.

Is anybody using scanners on the network on FreeBSD? Handbook article 
should also be appended.
I might try to play with it and see how it goes. I could contribute the 
documentation if the community has interest in it.


Best,
Predrag

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LPRng question and printing in general

I would like to ask people who use  LPRng spooling system on FreeBSD to 
clarify something for me.


I have been playing with all available spooling systems on FreeBSD (LPD, 
LPRng,  CUPS , PDQ) as well as HPLIP in order to document

their behavior and write simple howtos for each of the systems.

However I kept getting into the trouble with LPRng. Namely, I could not 
get past the following message


[EMAIL PROTECTED] -cannot open connection - No such file or directory
Make sure the remote host supports the LPD protocol

Is that the famous conflict with the native LPD supporting RFC1179 
printing. How do people resolve this conflict in practice?




I also noticed that PDQ project is completely abandoned by its creator. 
Also LPRng was  abandoned by its creator in 2005 and then picked by
somebody else. I wander what is the state of ifhp filter which is used 
by default by LPRng. As it is a hardware based project and there are so
many printers that were manufactured in the mean time I wander if the 
system is still usable in real life.



Is FreeBSD printing essentially reduced to LPD+apsfilter for small to 
medium print networks and CUPS for  very complex  printing  networks  
or  LPRng  is alive and well.



I tried to get into LPRng mailing lists but they seems are not active 
any more.



Best,
Predrag




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Re: copying DVD material :: somewhat OT.


Gary Kline wrote:

Folks,

IFF k3b works, and I think it might, I'll put up a howto
on  my bsd virtual site.   Make this domain more useful.
The help from this group has been outstanding, but getting things
CD and DVD actually working has been a study in persseverancce.

That said,  first,if there is a website for total dweebs, please
	post it; or send it privately.  I just bought some "Memorex 
	DVD+RW" ; I want to record a 117 minute commercial DVD.

On the back on the DVDs is says these are only good for 60 minutes
in great qualty; it is good up to 120 minutes, and so on.
Nutshell: how good will k3b and my Pioneer burner do on dubbing
	this professioally recorded disc?  Also, Does thw "RW" mean tthat 
	I can re-tape over this with another edu DVD?


gary

PS:  I much prefer analogue cassettes; I've been taping stuff
 since I taped "American Bandstand" off the TV :-)




  
I wrote K3b how to 
http://www.bsd-srbija.org/dokumentacija/doku.php/rezanje_cd_i_dvd_diskova_pomo%C4%87u_k3b

but you will need little bit of Serbian language to read it.

Actually probably you could follow article even if you do not speak 
Serbian as the language is generic and there are only three important 
steps you need to do.


Step 1 Editing your /boot/loader.conf file with

atapicam_load="YES"
hw.ata.ata_dma="1"
hw.ata.atapi_dma="1"

since FreeBSD is using atapicam device to write DVD


Step 2 Edit your /etc/devfs.conf with various permission. Most of those 
are needed for a work station anyway


perm  /dev/acd0   0666
perm  /dev/cd00666

# Commonly used by many ports
  
link  cd0 cdrom

link  cd0  dvd
link  cd0  rdvd

link  acd0 cdrom
link  acd0 dvd
link  acd0 rdvd

# Misc other devices

permcdrom   0666
permdvd 0666
permrdvd0666
permxpt00666
permpass0   0666


Step 3 Edit your /etc/fstab file if you want to use K3b as a normal user 
since the disk has to be mounted on the mount point which belong to you



[pedja@ /usr/home/Pedja]$ more /etc/fstab
#These are my options
/dev/cd0 /usr/home/Pedja/mnt/cdrom cd9660   rw, noauto  0   0
/dev/acd0/usr/home/Pedja/mnt/cdrom cd9660   rw, noauto  0   0



You do not need HAL for things to work but is not going to heart.


Also read

make showinfo /usr/ports/sysutils/k3b

Best,
Predrag





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Re: SANE Network Daemon question


Pollywog wrote:

On Saturday 08 December 2007 20:39:06 Predrag Punosevac wrote:
  

I was just looking at the documentation on SANE web-site about network
scanning
and I noticed that /etc/services on my i386 does not include line like

sane-port  6566/tcp  # SANE network scanner daemon

which is used by saned (Sane Network Daemon to enable scanning over the
network).
The /etc/inetd.conf file is also missing line (of course should be
commented by default)

sane-port  stream  tcp  nowait  saned.saned  /usr/local/sbin/saned saned

The handbook is  also  mute  about  the  scanning over the network.

Is anybody using scanners on the network on FreeBSD? Handbook article
should also be appended.
I might try to play with it and see how it goes. I could contribute the
documentation if the community has interest in it.




I wanted to do this but I could not find a package for it.  In Linux, I use 
sane-utils to do this.
  


Saned (Sane Daemon)  is included in the standard distribution of 
sane-backhands. I checked sane-utils on the Debian web-site and seems it 
is just idiotic GUI.


I have to go very carefully through sane documentation and all files 
that come with the sane-backhands.
My hunch would be that one needs to do at least following steps  for  
network scanning.



For the purposes of this example I will assume that scanner already 
works properly on a machine which we will refer as server.
Our goal is to make this scanner usable to other machines which we call 
clients on our local network. The following scenario looks likely. We 
have a small computer lab of 10 machines running FreeBSD, 2 printers and 
a scanner. We want people who use these work stations to be able to use 
any of these two printers and the scanner regardless of the fact if the 
printer or a scanner is physically attached to

a particular workstation.


Step 1 Edit /etc/services with (probably both on server and on the 
client machine)


sane-port  6566/tcp  # SANE network scanner daemon

Step 2 Edit /etc/inetd.conf as(on the server and on the client 
machine) 


sane-port  stream  tcp  nowait  saned.saned  /usr/local/sbin/saned saned


Step 3 Edit /etc/rc.conf with (on the server and on the client machine)

inetd_enable="YES"
saned_enable="YES" 



Step 4 One probably also needs to edit /etc/hosts to add the host server 
to which sane is attached. (this is probably only on the client machine)


Step 5 Edit file /usr/local/etc/sane.d/net.conf which as default looks like

# This is the net config file.  Each line names a host to attach to.
# If you list "localhost" then your backends can be accessed either
# directly or through the net backend.  Going through the net backend
# may be necessary to access devices that need special privileges.
# localhost

on the client side. Maybe on the server side too.


Step 6 Edit file /usr/local/etc/sane.d/saned.conf which as default looks 
like


#
# saned.conf
#
# The contents of the saned.conf  file  is  a  list  of  host  names,  IP
# addresses or IP subnets (CIDR notation) that are permitted to use local
# SANE devices. IPv6 addresses must be enclosed in brackets,  and  should
# always  be specified in their compressed form.
#
# The hostname matching is not case-sensitive.
#
#scan-client.somedomain.firm
#192.168.0.1
#192.168.0.1/29
#[2001:7a8:185e::42:12]
#[2001:7a8:185e::42:12]/64
#
# NOTE: /etc/inetd.conf (or /etc/xinetd.conf) and
# /etc/services must also be properly configured to start
# the saned daemon as documented in saned(8), services(4)
# and inetd.conf(4) (or xinetd.conf(5)).

probably both on local and server side.

I probably skipped some steps both on the client and on the server side.

Step 7 Reboot server and clients for daemons to start.

I do not know of the web configuration utility to do this like the one 
for Samba (which also uses inetd) and it will probably  make

system administration just less transparent.


I do not fully understand the security implication of the running 
daemon. It looks to me that the daemon is running around as a supper user

and that might be very serious thing.


Probably above should be tried only behind the PF but how to configure 
the PF so that the daemon is invisible to anybody who is outside of our 
local network? I have more questions at this point than the answers and 
I just thought of this for half an hour.
I will play with my local network after the Christmas holidays and 
report on the results.


Cheers,

Predrag





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Re: copying DVD material :: somewhat OT.


Gary Kline wrote:

On Sat, Dec 08, 2007 at 02:18:25PM -0700, Predrag Punosevac wrote:
  

Gary Kline wrote:


Folks,

IFF k3b works, and I think it might, I'll put up a howto
on  my bsd virtual site.   Make this domain more useful.
The help from this group has been outstanding, but getting things
CD and DVD actually working has been a study in persseverancce.

That said,  first,if there is a website for total dweebs, please
	post it; or send it privately.  I just bought some "Memorex 
	DVD+RW" ; I want to record a 117 minute commercial DVD.

On the back on the DVDs is says these are only good for 60 minutes
in great qualty; it is good up to 120 minutes, and so on.
Nutshell: how good will k3b and my Pioneer burner do on dubbing
	this professioally recorded disc?  Also, Does thw "RW" mean tthat 
	I can re-tape over this with another edu DVD?


gary

PS:  I much prefer analogue cassettes; I've been taping stuff
 since I taped "American Bandstand" off the TV :-)




 
  
I wrote K3b how to 
http://www.bsd-srbija.org/dokumentacija/doku.php/rezanje_cd_i_dvd_diskova_pomo%C4%87u_k3b

but you will need little bit of Serbian language to read it.




Actually, my best friend for > 30 years comes from [ what was ]
Yugoslavia; so he could surely help me with the translation.

I think I have the k3b stuff actually workinng.  As of late FFriday
night, k3b ran thru all of its tests.That wasn't my question.
I want to know
	more about what DVD blanks are good,better,best, and whether it is 
	worth "wasting" a blank DVD in trying to copy a DVD that I borrowed
	from the library.   


I've googled arouund, tryiiing to get some  kind of specs that an
EE can understand ... even if he kknows nothing about figital
	video.   

  
I think that duplicating DVDs works like a charm on FreeBSD but I think 
there is a better software in ports for that of K3b which is
kind a all in one generic GUI application. This is also a useful link   
http://www.dvddemystified.com/dvdfaq.html if you are trying to 
understand DVD business.  There are definitely people on this mailing 
list or on OpenBSD mailing list (I do not remember any more as I am on 
both mailing lists) who have fantastic knowledge of DVD writable medias,

proprietary Video Formats and various issues that come with that including
the issues of regional coding and by that I do not mean just USA vs 
Europe or Asia. Even inside of U. S. where I have being g living for the 
past 12 years there are many different regional formats. I am clueless 
about it.


As a mathematician I  am probably much less capable of understanding DVD 
technical issues than you.


To be perfectly  honest  as a professional mathematician I am very 
concern with the status of TeX port and the fact that two years after
teTeX was abolished by TeX community in favor of TeXLive there are no 
even indication that the TeXLive will be ported to FreeBSD. Even in the 
most crude form (4 packages) as it is done in OpenBSD would be better 
than noting. Of course the Debian way (30 or so packages) would be my 
preferable way as TeXLive is developing really rapidly in some areas.  
My knowledge of porting is unfortunately inadequate to be able to help 
with such a major project.



Cheers,
Predrag







thanks for your email; it was one of the postings that helped me
get atapicam stuff *working*

:-)

gary


  
Actually probably you could follow article even if you do not speak 
Serbian as the language is generic and there are only three important 
steps you need to do.


Step 1 Editing your /boot/loader.conf file with

atapicam_load="YES"
hw.ata.ata_dma="1"
hw.ata.atapi_dma="1"

since FreeBSD is using atapicam device to write DVD


Step 2 Edit your /etc/devfs.conf with various permission. Most of those 
are needed for a work station anyway


perm  /dev/acd0   0666
perm  /dev/cd00666

# Commonly used by many ports
  
link  cd0 cdrom

link  cd0  dvd
link  cd0  rdvd

link  acd0 cdrom
link  acd0 dvd
link  acd0 rdvd

# Misc other devices

permcdrom   0666
permdvd 0666
permrdvd0666
permxpt00666
permpass0   0666


Step 3 Edit your /etc/fstab file if you want to use K3b as a normal user 
since the disk has to be mounted on the mount point which belong to you



[pedja@ /usr/home/Pedja]$ more /etc/fstab
#These are my options
/dev/cd0 /usr/home/Pedja/mnt/cdrom cd9660   rw, noauto  0   0
/dev/acd0/usr/home/Pedja/mnt/cdrom cd9660   rw, noauto  0   0



You do not need HAL for things to work but is not going to heart.


Also read

make showinfo /usr/ports/sysutils/k3b

Best,
Predrag








  


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Re: SANE Network Daemon question


Pollywog wrote:

On Sunday 09 December 2007 02:17:21 Predrag Punosevac wrote:

  

Saned (Sane Daemon)  is included in the standard distribution of
sane-backhands. I checked sane-utils on the Debian web-site and seems it
is just idiotic GUI.




I was using Debian and I now use Ubuntu and FreeBSD.  The sane-utils package 
contains files that I edit in order to have the ability to scan from any 
machine on my LAN that runs Linux.  The files are /etc/sane.d/dll.conf and 
also saned.conf and net.conf in the same directory.
  
Then look the /usr/local/etc/sane.d You already have all files you need 
to have.



Debian is known for fine grinding of packages so I would not be 
surprised that they divided generic sane-backhand package in several part.
That is a very good practice but unfortunately FreeBSD does not have 
that man power and the user base to do the same.


Would you be so kind than to write how to for network scanning. It would 
be very good if you could append Handbook article about scanning. I have 
no clue whom you should contact with the offer to contribute the article 
for Handbook.


Best,
Predrag



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Re: SANE Network Daemon question


Pollywog wrote:

On Sunday 09 December 2007 03:26:19 Predrag Punosevac wrote:
  

Pollywog wrote:


On Sunday 09 December 2007 02:17:21 Predrag Punosevac wrote:
  

Saned (Sane Daemon)  is included in the standard distribution of
sane-backhands. I checked sane-utils on the Debian web-site and seems it
is just idiotic GUI.


I was using Debian and I now use Ubuntu and FreeBSD.  The sane-utils
package contains files that I edit in order to have the ability to scan
from any machine on my LAN that runs Linux.  The files are
/etc/sane.d/dll.conf and also saned.conf and net.conf in the same
directory.
  

Then look the /usr/local/etc/sane.d You already have all files you need
to have.


Debian is known for fine grinding of packages so I would not be
surprised that they divided generic sane-backhand package in several part.
That is a very good practice but unfortunately FreeBSD does not have
that man power and the user base to do the same.

Would you be so kind than to write how to for network scanning. It would
be very good if you could append Handbook article about scanning. I have
no clue whom you should contact with the offer to contribute the article
for Handbook.



Since it has been some time since I tried to get HPLIP to work with my 
computer, I am going to attempt it again.  If I am successful, I will post 
something about it.
  


HPLIP works like a charm on FreeBSD 
http://dsteinbrook.googlepages.com/hpliponfreebsd


I thought we were discussing sane-backhands and network scanning.
Best,
Predrag

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Re: internet/p2p TV

2007-12-09 Thread Predrag Punosevac


Tsu-Fan Cheng wrote:

Hi,
   I like to watch some TV over the internet, on windows, there are
ppstream, pplive, etc. and there are a couple running on linux. I
wonder which linux app works on freebsd, thank you!!

TFC
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Re: copying DVD material :: somewhat OT.

2007-12-09 Thread Predrag Punosevac


neal wrote:

On Saturday 08 December 2007, Predrag Punosevac wrote:
  

I wrote K3b how to
http://www.bsd-srbija.org/dokumentacija/doku.php/rezanje_
cd_i_dvd_diskova_pomo%C4%87u_k3b but you will need little
bit of Serbian language to read it.

Actually probably you could follow article even if you do
not speak Serbian as the language is generic and there
are only three important steps you need to do.

Step 1 Editing your /boot/loader.conf file with

atapicam_load="YES"
hw.ata.ata_dma="1"
hw.ata.atapi_dma="1"

since FreeBSD is using atapicam device to write DVD


Step 2 Edit your /etc/devfs.conf with various permission.
Most of those are needed for a work station anyway

perm  /dev/acd0   0666
perm  /dev/cd00666

# Commonly used by many ports
   
link  cd0 cdrom

link  cd0  dvd
link  cd0  rdvd

link  acd0 cdrom
link  acd0 dvd
link  acd0 rdvd

# Misc other devices

permcdrom   0666
permdvd 0666
permrdvd0666
permxpt00666
permpass0   0666


Step 3 Edit your /etc/fstab file if you want to use K3b
as a normal user since the disk has to be mounted on the
mount point which belong to you


[pedja@ /usr/home/Pedja]$ more /etc/fstab
#These are my options
/dev/cd0 /usr/home/Pedja/mnt/cdrom cd9660   rw,
noauto  0   0 /dev/acd0  
 /usr/home/Pedja/mnt/cdrom cd9660   rw, noauto  0
  0




You do not need HAL for things to work but is not going
to heart.


Also read

make showinfo /usr/ports/sysutils/k3b

Best,
Predrag



Thanks for posting this Predrag.

I have had unsolvable (so far) problems with playing both 
dvd movies and cd audio. MPlayer will play VOBs but no 
menus, no navigation which can make watching pretty much 
impossible sometimes. 

I had actually given up on trying to get these two features 
to work and have installed a new linux (to me), Kubuntu. On 
this platform, there are no problems with DVD movies, audio 
cd, streamed audio, even flash. I can watch youtube too. 
This has not been the case on FreeBSD. I have tried 
installing FreeBSD 6.2 via three different versions, 
FreeBSD, DesktopBSD and PCBSD, and asked questions on their 
mailing lists. 

  

My Dear Friend,

You will have to wait for a very long time then since all of the above 
except Flash (which Adobe does release for Linux but not for FreeBSD) 
works flawlessly on FreeBSD including watching YouTube (just use 
youtube-dl to snap the video and play with VLC). There are even 
alternative solutions for the Flash unless you want to play video games 
full of Flash!


The only reason they didn't work for you is that you didn't know how to 
set up those features.


Never the less if you fell more comfortably with Kubuntu stick with it. 
FreeBSD is not platform for everything and everyone.
Personally, I find myself using more and more OpenBSD. So you have to 
use OS you are comfortable with and has a features you most desire (in 
my case enhanced security).


Best,
Predrag







But I do like many things about BSD and would like to be 
able to move to it completely when I can have these 
features working correctly, so I will try your suggestions 
above and see what happens.


neal.
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Re: copying DVD material :: somewhat OT.

2007-12-09 Thread Predrag Punosevac


Chris Whitehouse wrote:

Predrag Punosevac wrote:


My Dear Friend,

You will have to wait for a very long time then since all of the 
above except Flash (which Adobe does release for Linux but not for 
FreeBSD) works flawlessly on FreeBSD including watching YouTube (just 
use youtube-dl to snap the video and play with VLC). There are even 
alternative solutions for the Flash unless you want to play video 
games full of Flash!


I tried youtube-dl but every url I tried gave
youtube-dl: No match.

eg

%youtube-dl http://youtube.com/watch?v=gpIM3nBR2ZA
youtube-dl: No match.

I even installed the latest version.

Do only certain videos work? Do you have an example that works?

Any video posted on Youtube will work for youtube-dl . It will snap the 
file in .flv format which can be player only with VLC and MPlayer. 
Nothing else. Clive is capable of snapping videos from Google video as 
well and has an additional capabilities to converting

.flv files to more friendly video formats like .MPG

So what do you think? That I can not watch YouTube because I use 
FreeBSD? Funny...


There are at least 4 other way to watch videos on YouTube on FreeBSD 
running machine. The one I proposed is the simplest.



Thanks and apologies for hijacking your thread.

Chris
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Re: Realtek ALC262 and Via ENVY24 sound cards for rel. 6.2

2007-12-12 Thread Predrag Punosevac


Lee Shackelford wrote:

Good afternoon, FreeBSD enthusiasts.  For FreeBSD release 6.2, does anyone
know if there is any simpler way of using sound cards containing either a
Realtek ALC262 chip or a Via ENVY24 chip than installing the Linux
emulator, and then using the alsa a.p.i.?  Many thanks.  Yours truly, L e e
_ S h a c k e l f o r d @ d o t . c a . g o v

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Did you try to compile Open Sound System from ports? I have some Realtek 
crap and it worked only with OSS. I think that many more devices are 
supported in 7.0 so you might want to upgrade the system. Check the 
hardware notes.
For the list of supported devices by OSS you can check Open Sound 
System web-site.
They also have a binary package that you can install with pkg_add 
utility. Package is sometimes updated before the port!

Best,
Predrag
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Re: what is /dev/xpt0/

2007-12-13 Thread Predrag Punosevac


Gary Kline wrote:

this  probably is irrelevant to 90% of the list, but it's got me
wondering. can anybody 'splain what kind of SCSI device xpt0 is?
Is there a /dev/xpt1 if you're running a second optical drive/
thanks,

gary


  

man xpt


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Re: How to configure FreeBSD machine as a bridged router?

2007-12-13 Thread Predrag Punosevac


Jake Conk wrote:

Hello,

I have 2 nic cards in my machine and I want to place this machine 
between my internet connection and my router without it looking like 
another router between the 2 networks (internet  and my network). I 
want to connect the internet line in the first nic card and the line 
to my network in the second nic card as if it were a 1 port router in 
bridge mode that has 1 line with the internet and the second line that 
goes to my network. Is a setup like this possible with FreeBSD?


The reason why I'm asking is because I want to configure this machine 
with the net.inet.tcp.inflight options and see if it boosts up data 
transfer speeds without changing my network configuration, just adding 
this device in front of it.


Thanks,
- Jake
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Re: USB printer

2008-03-12 Thread Predrag Punosevac


Chuck Robey wrote:

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Gligor Lucian wrote:
  

David Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 12:59:38PM -0700, 
Gligor Lucian >wrote:


Does FreeBSD support a USB printer?


Yes.
  


You know, while there are printing utils that actually work on FreeBSD, I
can't personally recommend CUPS.  I keep on trying to get it to work on
FreeBSD efvery year or so, then I need to go over to one of my other
systems.  Last one I tried was an Epson Stylus C84, but I've also tried HP
officejets, and I just can't get locally attached printers to work with
cups.  I can get them to work with things like apsfilter very well, but
either someone is going to have to fix the Cups port (it builds, but
nothing locally runs) or stop recommending it.

Or, does anyone else have it working on FreeBSD?  Sure would like to hear
about it, but I've been trying for a long time now, with no success.

  
Please do not spread disinformation. Of course CUPS works on FreeBSD as 
well as thee other spooling systems

PDQ, LPD, and LPRng.
Cheers,
Predrag





Thank you very much for your answer.
 All the best, Gligor Lucian.


   
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Re: USB printer

2008-03-13 Thread Predrag Punosevac


Pollywog wrote:

On Wednesday 12 March 2008 19:37:47 Manolis Kiagias wrote:
  

Chuck Robey wrote:


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David Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 


12:59:38PM -0700, Gligor Lucian >wrote:
  

Does FreeBSD support a USB printer?


Yes.
  

You know, while there are printing utils that actually work on FreeBSD, I
can't personally recommend CUPS.  I keep on trying to get it to work on
FreeBSD efvery year or so, then I need to go over to one of my other
systems.  Last one I tried was an Epson Stylus C84, but I've also tried
HP officejets, and I just can't get locally attached printers to work
with cups.  I can get them to work with things like apsfilter very well,
but either someone is going to have to fix the Cups port (it builds, but
nothing locally runs) or stop recommending it.

Or, does anyone else have it working on FreeBSD?  Sure would like to hear
about it, but I've been trying for a long time now, with no success.

  

Thank you very much for your answer.
 All the best, Gligor Lucian.



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I have cups working on my system, printing on locally attached USB
printers. I have followed the instructions in dekstopBSD wiki:

http://desktopbsd.net/wiki/doku.php?id=doc:printing

(though I used ports and not packages)



Did you find it necessary to recompile the kernel with ulpt disabled?

I have a HP PSC2110 "All-In-One" 
To get HP PSC2110 just working you can use HPIJS driver and you do not 
need to recompile the kernel.
However if you want to use HPLIP to unlock full functionality (scanner 
and FAX, PC-copping) you will have to recompile the driver to
disable ulpt driver since it is unable to get the vendor name and 
product ID. That is well-documented.
You will probably also need to disable umass driver since it gets 
attached to printer before the ugen driver.
In all honestly that is not well-documented. You will also need to start 
HPLIP daemons before the CUPS daemon.

That is all well-documented.

#enable CUPS and related
lpd_enable="NO"
hpiod_enable="YES" #daemons for HPLIP HP printing
hpssd_enable="YES" #daemons for HPLIP HP printing
cupsd_enable="YES"

umess driver is needed for Floppy and Flash drives so you might want to 
load manually after the boot and

after you unlock your printer.
Cheers,
Predrag
that I can use in Linux (printing and 
scanning) but was unable to get working in FreeBSD.  I believe part of the 
solution is to disable ulpt and recompile the kernel, but I had trouble 
getting hplip to work.  FreeBSD does not have hpoj, which is what I use in 
Linux with this printer.

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Re: Has anyone got the remote X-Win32 running?

2008-03-17 Thread Predrag Punosevac


Brad Pitney wrote:

On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 4:52 AM, Robert Chalmers
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  

I've read the spots off everything I can find about getting X going, and I
 have it all up and running sort of.

 But only sort of.



 I have X-Win32 trialling on a laptop, and want to be able to connect to the
 Xserver - but I just can't seem to do it.



 To give you a run down.



 I have X working.

 I have KDE working.

 I have the /etc/ttys entry set to:

 ttyv8  "/usr/local/bin/xdm -nodaemon"  xterm  on  secure

 ..  (I note that kdm is much prettier, and appears to work Just as well)



 I have the entry in xdm-config commented out.

 ! DisplayManager.requestPort: 0



 /root/.xinitrc contains "exec startkde"



 Ok.

 Using 'xdm' , booting brings up an oversize font LOGIN -PASSWORD display.
 Very ugly. (kdm looks nicer, but I'm following the manual)




xdm can look nice.

  

 Neither xdm or kdm, let me log in as root.

 I have to go Ctl+alt+F1 to get to the good old terminal window.



 Now, the main problem is .. Which is a real pain, as I do need to connect to
 this thing remotely.

 I can't connect from the remote laptop's X-Win32 program xterm emulator
 program.



 Has anyone managed to get any remote, xterm emulators going? And how so?




you know, I'd recommend X over ssh, although I used Xming, there 's a
package with it bundled with putty

http://sourceforge.net/projects/xming

even comes with pretty good documentation

  
I am not sure if I understand original question. Do you want to have GUI 
access to your remote machine?



1. If you are in the LAN zone you can run X-server on your Windows 
machine (obviously Cygwin comes to mind

and XOrg for it as well as other GNU tools) and run
x-clients (applications on your remote box) via let say tftp (Trivial 
File Transfer Protocol) or much slower NFS.  Read  man  pages  for XOrg 
and tftp how to do that.


2. If you want to connect remotely on the insecure network you basically 
have two options


a. ssh -Y (edit /etc/ssh/sshd.conf file) since by default X log in is 
disabled. You have to have quite good machine to do this because of 
cryptography used by ssh and good internet connection. You again need to 
have OpenSSH on your

Windows machine so Cygwin is must.

b. You can run VNC server on your FreeBSD box and run VNC client on your 
Windows machine.
ThightVNC comes to mind. I prefer SSVNC client for the client side 
because of cryptography but I am not sure if it
available for Windows. Any how you can use TightVNC which does exits for 
Windows.


Best,
Predrag




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Re: OT: brother hl-5250dn here.

2008-03-19 Thread Predrag Punosevac


Gary Kline wrote:

Ihave my new printer here, hooked into my hub/switch.  What next?
How to configure it to get a DHCP lease.  I just rebooted my
pfSense firewall and do not see any new leases!

  
For starters I think this question is for Brother technical support not 
for FreeBSD mailing list

but since we are all family let me try to help you.

Printer needs to be attached to DHCP server in order to get an address. 
Obviously your switch is not DHCP server.
You need honest NAT router (which contains DHCP server ) or attach it to 
FreeBSD machine to which you installed
DHCP server. Printer should be located in the LAN zone so firewall 
should not be existing among those machines
otherwise you need to enable port 631 for IPP and port 515 for LPR 
printing protocol.


How the printer gets initiated should be described in the manual you got 
it with the printer.


How the printer gets configured to be printer server is out of the scope 
of these message but if you tell me which

spooling system you use I could help you.

Sorry, I could not be of more help.

Best,
Predrag
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Re: linux emulation

2008-03-20 Thread Predrag Punosevac


Da Rock wrote:

On Thu, 2008-03-20 at 08:50 +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
  

I've read the handbook and just about anything on linux compat under
freebsd. I am particularly interested in drivers under linux compat.
  

emulation allows execution of normal linux programs, not drivers



Ok. So input devices won't work either? I refer to this page here:
http://people.freebsd.org/~3d/apps/games/unreal_tournament/

What is the driver mentioned here?

Incidentally, what is the difference between linux and bsd drivers? 

They are written for different kernels!




The
drivers in question are manufacturers binaries for linux in an RPM;
hence the question. Plus I came across several notations regarding
building or using drivers from linux in bsd (linux-kmod-compat port, the
above link, and more).

For reference I'm merely very curious, not argumentative on this. Cheers
for any answers offered.

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Re: more on FreeBSD and Brother HL-5250-DN

2008-03-20 Thread Predrag Punosevac


Gary Kline wrote:

Not to bore anyone, but my finding may be of interest.
Predrag pointed me at a Brother lpr/printcap setup for Linux--
will wonders never cease?, :-).  The URL is

http://solutions.brother.com/linux/en_us/index.html

	and had configurations (binaries, not plaintext) for Redhat 
	andDebian.  I managed to install, and thus unpack, the *deb
	(is that cpio?) on my Ubuntu desktop.  


Very late last night it occurred to me that the reason no
/dev/lpt0 was that my parallel cable isn't plugged into my new
printer.  The test pages work via the cat5 <-> switch; this
	HTML helped me configure the 5250.  When I another geek over 
	here to plug things together, I'll be able to test the

/etc/printcap.   Here it is, as auto-installed by dpkg -i::

HL5250DN:\
:mx=0:\
:sd=/var/spool/lpd/HL5250DN:\
:sh:\
:lp=/dev/usb/lp0:\
:if=/usr/local/Brother/lpd/filterHL5250DN:

	Most of this will port to FreeBSD easily. The Brother directory 
	is full of two subdirs each with a number of files.  The input

filter, "filterHL5250DN" and other /bin/sh scripts in lpd/
will take some porting.   S: is printcap the best way to
	go?  What about IPP?   
IPP is internet printing protocol spoken by CUPS spooling system. Your 
printer speaks both IPP and LPR native
printing protocol spoken by LPD. I honestly would not bother much with 
all that nonsense from Brother web-site.


Since you have Ubuntu and FreeBSD machine to make things as simple as 
possible attach printer directly to the network (that is why you have DN 
extension in the name of your printer) and make it printer server.


Ubuntu comes with CUPS which speaks IPP and adding printing should be 
matter of selecting it in the Gnome printer

manager.
You could edit printcap file for remote printer on your FreeBSD box. 
Look the FreeBSD Handbook

section 9.4.3.

If you want to have identical set up on FreeBSD machine as on the Ubuntu 
machine add the CUPS.
Do not forget to hide native LPD commands (example mv /usr/bin/lp 
/usr/bin/lp.bak)


You need to edit file /usr/local/etc/cups/client.conf on FreeBSD to 
enable client printing.

Start CUPS daemon and
then go to http://localhost:631 and add the printer. You can find PPD 
file for the printer on

http://openprinting.org/printer_list.cgi

Just follow the documentation for CUPS client setup
http://www.cups.org/doc-1.1/sam.html



Cheers,
Predrag




The nutshell is that I'd like to use the
	printer in the way that takes the least messing-with.  I have 
	two "desktop", BSD and Ubuntu.  I would like to make the FreeBSD
	computer my printserver ... if I can't use the 5250 as a 
	networked printer.


Advice please!!

gary








  


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uscanner and ugen drivers questions

2008-03-21 Thread Predrag Punosevac


Dear All,

I was playing with various scanners and all-in-one devices on FreeBSD 
(probably 6-7 different scanners and all-in-one
devices) and I noticed that the range of scanners supported on FreeBSD 
is far smaller than that of sane-backends.
This is due to the fact that there is no standard device class for USB 
scanners.
Therefore for instance uscanner driver will only recognise devices whose 
USB IDs are explicitly listed in the table in the driver itself. 
Parallel port scanners and all-in-one devices are even in worse shape 
due to the limitation of lpt driver but they can be considered 
semi-obsolete so I didn't even bother to play with them.


I was wondering if anybody has tried manually to add the device and the 
vendor ID to uscanner.c and recompile the kernel. Will that work. In 
particular last night I played little bit with Epscon CX3810 all-in-one 
which I got for $5.
The device is recognized as /dev/ulpt0 and is usable as a printer with 
the Gutenprint driver. If I remove ulpt and umass
driver from the kernel the device is seen as ulpt but sane-find-scanner 
list it as Unknown device.
I tried to edit /usr/local/etc/sane.d/epson.conf and add the vendor name 
and the product ID but the scanner is not responsive. The CX3810 is 
fully supported by Epson and Epson2 backend and works out of box on Ubuntu.



Did anybody play with these things at all or people are using just a few 
usable devices ( I have couple of working scanners on FreeBSD for instance)?


Another question. Is it possible to unload driver from the kernel 
without recompiling it like on OpenBSD

with config utility.

Cheers,
Predrag
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Re: Anyone have Comcast for an ISP?

2008-03-22 Thread Predrag Punosevac

Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:

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Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 10:33 PM
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Subject: Anyone have Comcast for an ISP?

Does anyone on here have comcast for an ISP? I use them and today I was
messing around on a machine I use for FTP service over my LAN (Not
accessible from the net so I'm not worried about using it for back ups)
and anyway, I wanted to set up one of my comcast accounts on it so I
could do as I've done for years, and use SSH to log into that machine
and use fetchmail to grab my email off comcast, and then use Mutt to
check it since I really like Mutt.

Well, I got sendmail up ad tested that it was working and it was working
fine. After that I tried sending a test email with Mutt.

For some reason ti failed even though it was the backed up copy of my
Muttrc that I used to use on EVERY machine I used mutt on. I always
backed it up because I had it looking really nice with colors and also
my email address was in there and I built in a mini addy book for my
friends and mailing lists I'm on so I didn't have to worry about an
address book being deleted by accident.

Well, it failed horribly. I can't send an email because it's blocked,
and also, using fetchmail isn't exactly working either and I can't stand
how getmailrc works

So does anyone here use Comcast and Mutt for an email client that could
maybe reply and let me know how they do it? Id' like to use Mutt and
also I do like how simple fetchmail is to use, so fi you use these and
have Comcast for internet please reply with how you did it. I'm googling
right now but everything I find isn't exactly helpful, so if anyone here
uses Mutt and has Comcast please let me know how you did it.

What you have available in the e-mail realm when you are
on the Comcast network:

For e-mail CLIENTS you may retrieve mail via the standard
IMAP or POP3 ports from a remote non-comcast mailserver.

For e-mail CLIENTS you may send mail through a remote
non-comcast mailserver using the submission port 587 and
authenticated SMTP.

For e-mail SERVERS you can use fetchmail to pretend the
server is a mail client, then redistribute the mail
internally.  However you cannot use sendmail to send
out outgoing mail to port 25 on remote mailservers - unless
it's to the comcast mailserver.

  Comcast's residential
TOS prohibits servers and they enforce this by blocking incoming
traffic going to SMTP, IMAP and POP3 ports.

Now, I do know that cable and DSL modems are quite different but I am 
able to log into my Qwest DSL modem and
open the port 25, port 80 or any other port for that matter. I live in 
Arizona so Qwest and Comcast are more or less only two choices for the 
residential ISP.

I had Sandmail server running for about a week but as I do not have 
static IP address, Domain Name, MX
record and Reverse DNS there was no point keeping it as the mail would 
bounce from most mail servers.
Getting static IP address is no big deal as well as Domain Name and 
setting up MX record but I think Qwest
does not provide reverse DNS to residential accounts. They charge $26.95 
+ $6 (7Mps) for static IP for residential accounts. Essentially the 
equivalent  "business" account is about $90 and they do provide reverse 
DNS as well. I think one has to sign some kind liability agreement for 
business account in the case your mail server becomes spam zombie.
In reality you really have to run ClamAv and SpamAssassin beside 
Sendmail which was really overkill just for

my wife and me (my daughters are too small for email accounts).

I use IMAP and SMTP (Thunderbird client) ro recover mail from my 
University mail box. Qwest people were also nice to me after they 
realized that I do not care much for their Windows live and Hotmail 
account and offer me free of charge

5 email accounts on their mail server.

I think that the Comcast is doing something similar so you could use 
Mutt, Pine, or whatever email client you like to recover mail from your 
mail box on Comcast email server. I would not be surprised that they 
also run FreeBSD.

Cheers,
Predrag Punosevac

Ted
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Re: USB printer

2008-03-24 Thread Predrag Punosevac


Bernt Hansson wrote:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] skrev:

Ted Mittelstädt wrote , at 2008-03-19 05:24:


CUPS <> Ghostscript.  gs and all the foomatic stuff runs just fine
with LPR/LPD, no CUPS needed.



Can one use a ppd-file with lpd/lpr?



Of course. A sample printcap file

lp|OfficeJet:\
:lp=/dev/ulpt0:\
:af=/etc/foomatic/HP-OfficeJet_4110-hpijs.ppd:\
:if=/usr/local/bin/foomatic-rip:\
:sd=/var/spool/lpd/OfficeJet:\
:sh:


I'm not using foomatic but the ppd-file from HP for LJ2100, 2200, 4050 
and 8000 is that still possible? They all speak postscript.

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Well if you want to use your printers in PostScript mode you can just 
send row .ps file and it should print i.e.

you can remove the af and if lines from the printcap and should work.

Now what about other file types?

Lets have a second look for instance at LJ2100.

According to Linux Printing Database (which is the one
we also use in BSD world)

http://openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-LaserJet_2100

the recommended way of using for instance LJ2100 is via Printer Command 
Language 5 or 6
i.e. you need a driver. The recommended driver for LJ2100 is  pxlmono 
which is build in  Ghostscript.
If you use printer with Apsfilter you can just select the driver. Files 
of any type should be printed no question asked.


If you use PPD file and fomatic-rip filter as
in the above printcap example the jobs would be passed through pxlmono 
driver.
You may send to printer ps or non ps files (pdf, dvi, gif, html) and 
everything should work no question asked.



The printer will work eight other drivers.

Now the final question is probably that there is custom PPD vile for 
PostScript mode according to the same

Database.
I think that that one is only relevant for CUPS as PPD files are used 
via IPP (only spoken by CUPS) to fake real communication with the  
device and show things like printer status. I am not 100% sure but I 
think that PPD file is
what one would call CUPS-PPD file. If you send let say .pdf file that 
PPD file probably will tell CUPS how to
pass pdf file through GhostScript and create ps version and then print 
it. I am not sure if it going to be useful with
LPD. Of course in the case you do not have any filters in your printcap 
you can send only ps files to printer.


You can play on the following way. Remove the if (input filter line from 
your printcap file) and keep af but put
that particular custom PPD file which is used for PostScript mode. Try 
to send ps and pdf file. If it prints only ps
file that means that PPD  does nothing for LPD if it can print pdf files 
that means that is usable with LPD.


I personally use most printers in PCL mode just because I have lots of 
different mish-mash printer non of which speaks

full PostScript language.

Cheers,
Predrag
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Re: What is a good printer/all-in-one?

2008-03-25 Thread Predrag Punosevac

Lars Eighner wrote:

On Tue, 25 Mar 2008, Isaac Mushinsky wrote:

Yes, I saw that. But FreeBSD is not linux, and using multiple drivers 
for

the same device is more of a problem for us. HPLIP, on the other hand,
requires bare ugen, not loading ulpt or uscanner or perhaps even 
umass, a

very unnatural and cumbersome thing for me (I want umass, and I also
sometimes use a Nikon photo film scanner, which work via sane).

You can use umass devices with HPLIP, but you must load umass after the
printer has attached as a ugen device.  Then you can attach and detach 
umass

devices as much as you please.  You seem to imply there is a conflict
between uscanner devices, but I don't see what that conflict might be. 
Uscanner will not grab the scanner function of a multifunction printer 
with

hplip.  It doesn't appear there is a conflict of executable names either.

There is absolutely no all-in-one device which will work out of box with 
FreeBSD.

HP devices as you noticed require kernel recompilation and have that 
undocumented umass driver removal and load. They are probably best bet 
but they are expensive (I am talking laser as I would stay away from 
ink-jets by all means).

The second group of devices which should work out of box Epson CX 
all-in-one class devices (which

are ink jet so I would stay a way from them anyway) are not listed in
uscanner driver so they will not work out of box without  manually 
adding your devices into the driver and then recompiling despite the 
fact that epson and epson2 backends support them.

Future of Epson scanners is bleak on FreeBSD as Epson has released 
proprietary drivers for Linux. I believe

any effort for writing sane-backends  for Epson scanners has terminated.

I personally like Brother all-in-one monochromatic devices for home use 
which are probably $150-200 cheaper than

equivalent HP devices. I have seen good all-on-one for $120-150 on line.
Brother has scanner drivers for them brscan and brscan2 but those 
drivers have hidden
binary blob libraries which depend on Linux kernel. They can not be 
compiled on FreeBSD. I talked to their
technical support in Japan and they were the one to tell me to give up 
and disclosed quite a few information about

them.

Samsung has very cheap color laser jet printer which often require Splix 
driver (ported for FreeBSD but version 2.0

which is written from ground up is
expected soon). I have no idea about their scanners but you can get 
refurbished color laser jet form Samsung for $100 if you are lucky. They 
are probably way to go if you need color printing too.

I personally would get an honest printer which in the worst case 
scenario speaks PCL possibly with  flat  bad copier
and get  used  scanner  for  $10  which is  explicitly listed  on  
hardware  notes of FreeBSD.

If you are doing lots of scanning I would even considering deploying 
Linux unless uscanner, ugen, and few other
drivers which are  at the moment incapable of getting Vendor and Product 
ID get better.

Cheers,
Predrag

Thus I am looking for a network device, or if USB, then it should 
appear as

separate uscanner/ulpt/umass.

On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 1:08 PM, herbert langhans 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

wrote:

Hi Isaac,
this is a good start:
http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/OpenPrinting

In the 'printer' section you find a ranking and evaluation how the
printers do on unixoid systems.

Cheers
herbs

mount -t wbush /dev/whitehouse /dev/nul

On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 12:12:52 -0400
"Isaac Mushinsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> My 10-year-old deskjet being out of ink and probably not worth a
replacement

cartridge (it works, but makes some mechanical noise lately), I am
considering a reasonable replacement, preferably with scanning/copy
possibilities.

I tried to get Photosmart C4280, but while I was trying a faulty

printcap on
it, it lost its mind permanently (says 'incompatible print 
cartridges',

and

does not respond to the button combinations that HP support thinks

should
reset it). Besides, you can either attach it as ulpt or uscanner 
device,

or

play with hplip drivers as a generic device, but it seems too
confusing. It was a waste of time and money for me and I am going to

return

it.

Requirements:
1. Reasonable physical size (should not be much larger than the old
deskjet).
2. Either network/lpd or USB, scanner should be well supported by 
sane.

If
used via USB, it should be a compound device (i.e. printer, scanner 
and,

if

there, the umass device should appear as separate devices to avoid
kld-loading and unloading modules). I heard Epsons show up as compound
devices? any HP laserjets?
3. Reasonable maintenance cost (maybe a laser printer, I do not 
care for

color printing that much).

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Re: hplip setup problems

2008-03-25 Thread Predrag Punosevac


Isaac Mushinsky wrote:

I am close to assasinating my HP Photosmart C4280 in frustration.

1. This is an all-in-one device. (I did not try the scanner setup yet)
2. ulpt, umass, uscanner modules are not in kernel and not kld-loaded. 
3. Machine is FreeBSD 7-stable/amd64.

4. hplip is 2.8.2

$ usbdevs 
addr 1: UHCI root hub, Intel

addr 1: UHCI root hub, Intel
addr 1: UHCI root hub, Intel
addr 1: EHCI root hub, Intel
 addr 2: Photosmart C4200 series, HP
addr 1: UHCI root hub, Intel
addr 1: UHCI root hub, Intel
addr 1: UHCI root hub, Intel
addr 1: EHCI root hub, Intel

There is a ppd file for these series with the hplip distribution.

hpssd, cups started in the order needed. hp-setup detects the printer, and then 
says 'Unable to create queue'.

Do you have correct permissions on device nodes?




 CUPS web interface actually adds the printer, but then cannot print test page 
to it. cups user runs hpssd (I tried root too).

/var/log/messages has:
Mar 25 23:57:56 omsk python: io/hpmud/musb.c 135: unable get_string_descriptor 
-5: Input/output error
Mar 25 23:57:56 omsk python: io/hpmud/musb.c 1951: invalid serial id string 
ret=-5

Here is all relevant output:
http://omsk.mushinsky.net/hplip-trouble

Any help is appreciated. Thanks.


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Re: hplip setup problems


Isaac Mushinsky wrote:

On Wednesday 26 March 2008 02:49:52 you wrote:
  

fOn Wed, 26 Mar 2008, Isaac Mushinsky wrote:


I am close to assasinating my HP Photosmart C4280 in frustration.

1. This is an all-in-one device. (I did not try the scanner setup yet)
2. ulpt, umass, uscanner modules are not in kernel and not kld-loaded.
  

So far as I can determine, there is no reason to avoid uscanner in
the kernel --- uscanner does not/should not grab the scanner function
of your all-in-one.  It should then be possible to attach your single
function scanner with sane --- although it is sensible to get hplip up
without that complication first.



3. Machine is FreeBSD 7-stable/amd64.
4. hplip is 2.8.2

$ usbdevs
addr 1: UHCI root hub, Intel
addr 1: UHCI root hub, Intel
addr 1: UHCI root hub, Intel
addr 1: EHCI root hub, Intel
addr 2: Photosmart C4200 series, HP
addr 1: UHCI root hub, Intel
addr 1: UHCI root hub, Intel
addr 1: UHCI root hub, Intel
addr 1: EHCI root hub, Intel

There is a ppd file for these series with the hplip distribution.

hpssd, cups started in the order needed. hp-setup detects the printer,
and then says 'Unable to create queue'. CUPS web interface actually adds
the printer, but then cannot print test page to it. cups user runs hpssd
(I tried root too).

/var/log/messages has:
Mar 25 23:57:56 omsk python: io/hpmud/musb.c 135: unable
get_string_descriptor -5: Input/output error Mar 25 23:57:56 omsk python:
io/hpmud/musb.c 1951: invalid serial id string ret=-5

Here is all relevant output:
http://omsk.mushinsky.net/hplip-trouble
  

A lot of stuff advertised here doesn't seem to be visible/existent to lynx.

devfd.rules looks right
check group --- have you added whoever is using the printer to group cups
(at least root and/or toor to print the test page)?


yes
  

since you say you cannot print the test page, I assume you ran hp-setup
from a gui and can get into cups admin afterwards --- have you set the
printer you defined in hp-setup as the default printer in cups admin?

Is the printer ready (accepting jobs) according to cups admin?


yes, cups thinks the printer is up and  'ready', and accepts jobs for it.

  

if your failed test pages are showing up in the job queue, it may be
desirable to kill some of them in case you do something that does make it
work.



Any help is appreciated. Thanks.
  

That's all I can think of off the top of my head.



I think the trouble is somewhere in usb or libusb: 
hp:/usb/Photosmart_C4200_series?serial=0 does not look right. The libusb 
exception seems to occur while trying to obtain the 'serial number'. Whatever 
that means -- is the device expected to provide it?



  
My understanding is that you didn't succeed to print from that printer. 
You have to get printing function first

before you can get scanning.
It is easily to use your device as only printer if you live ulpt driver 
inside the kernel but ugen driver is used to communicate and give you 
information as the ink level for instance. If you live ulpt driver you 
will not be able to scan
libusb is used to communicate with the scanner. That is one of two ways 
that scanners talk to kernel.



Could you give me the output of


# /usr/local/libexec/cups/backend/hp  (make sure you have the right path 
this is mine on OpenBSD 4.3 current)


If you get something like
direct hp "Unknown" HP printer (*HPLIP*)" 


means that ugen driver cannot get VedorName and Product ID

Give me also outputs of

#hp-info

and

#hp-check -t

Out of curiosity what is the output of

#sane-find-scanner






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Re: hplip setup problems


Isaac Mushinsky wrote:
Obviously the device can not communicate with the kernel. My first hunch 
would be to blame on ugen driver

of BSD but look at this lines from hp-check that I copied from you message.
You are missing slue of REQUIRED libraries.
Are you running CUPS development version. You are not supposed to do 
that. You can try to install
each of the missing libraries by hand and then try hp-setup. Something 
is very WRONG with your installation.
Even better. If you have a spare machine to for testing. Try one more 
time to install things. Install firstly CUPS and SANE-backends and then 
install HPLIP (nothing else). If you see the same output from hp-check 
try installing
missing libraries by hand. If after all everything works I would reports 
HPLIP port as broken as the required libraries
should be installed as dependencies.  On the positive side SANE seems 
see the scanner. Can you scan?


Checking output of 'scanimage -L'...
device `hpaio:/usb/Photosmart_C4200_series?serial=0' is a Hewlett-Packard 
Photosmart_C4200_series all-in-one


found USB scanner (vendor=0x03f0 [HP], product=0x5c11 [Photosmart C4200 
series]) at libusb:/dev/usb3:/dev/ugen0




Checking for dependency: cups-devel- Common Unix Printing System development 
files...
error: NOT FOUND! This is a REQUIRED/COMPILE TIME ONLY dependency. Please make 
sure that this dependency is installed before installing or running HPLIP.



Checking for dependency: libcrypto - OpenSSL cryptographic library...
error: NOT FOUND! This is a REQUIRED dependency. Please make sure that this 
dependency is installed before installing or running HPLIP.



Checking for dependency: libjpeg - JPEG library...
error: NOT FOUND! This is a REQUIRED dependency. Please make sure that this 
dependency is installed before installing or running HPLIP.


Checking for dependency: libnetsnmp-devel - SNMP networking library 
development files...
error: NOT FOUND! This is a REQUIRED dependency. Please make sure that this 
dependency is installed before installing or running HPLIP.


Checking for dependency: libpthread - POSIX threads library...
error: NOT FOUND! This is a REQUIRED dependency. Please make sure that this 


Checking for dependency: libusb - USB library...
error: NOT FOUND! This is a REQUIRED dependency. Please make sure that this 
dependency is installed before installing or running HPLIP.


Checking for dependency: make - GNU make utility to maintain groups of 
programs...
error: NOT FOUND! This is a REQUIRED/COMPILE TIME ONLY dependency. Please make 
sure that this dependency is installed before installing or running HPLIP.

dependency is installed before installing or running HPLIP.

Checking for dependency: python-devel - Python development files...
error: NOT FOUND! This is a REQUIRED/COMPILE TIME ONLY dependency. Please make 
sure that this dependency is installed before installing or running HPLIP.








On Wednesday 26 March 2008 04:29:45 you wrote:
  

Isaac Mushinsky wrote:


On Wednesday 26 March 2008 02:49:52 you wrote:
  

fOn Wed, 26 Mar 2008, Isaac Mushinsky wrote:


I am close to assasinating my HP Photosmart C4280 in frustration.

1. This is an all-in-one device. (I did not try the scanner setup yet)
2. ulpt, umass, uscanner modules are not in kernel and not kld-loaded.
  

So far as I can determine, there is no reason to avoid uscanner in
the kernel --- uscanner does not/should not grab the scanner function
of your all-in-one.  It should then be possible to attach your single
function scanner with sane --- although it is sensible to get hplip up
without that complication first.



3. Machine is FreeBSD 7-stable/amd64.
4. hplip is 2.8.2

$ usbdevs
addr 1: UHCI root hub, Intel
addr 1: UHCI root hub, Intel
addr 1: UHCI root hub, Intel
addr 1: EHCI root hub, Intel
addr 2: Photosmart C4200 series, HP
addr 1: UHCI root hub, Intel
addr 1: UHCI root hub, Intel
addr 1: UHCI root hub, Intel
addr 1: EHCI root hub, Intel

There is a ppd file for these series with the hplip distribution.

hpssd, cups started in the order needed. hp-setup detects the printer,
and then says 'Unable to create queue'. CUPS web interface actually
adds the printer, but then cannot print test page to it. cups user runs
hpssd (I tried root too).

/var/log/messages has:
Mar 25 23:57:56 omsk python: io/hpmud/musb.c 135: unable
get_string_descriptor -5: Input/output error Mar 25 23:57:56 omsk
python: io/hpmud/musb.c 1951: invalid serial id string ret=-5

Here is all relevant output:
http://omsk.mushinsky.net/hplip-trouble
  

A lot of stuff advertised here doesn't seem to be visible/existent to
lynx.

devfd.rules looks right
check group --- have you added whoever is using the printer to group
cups (at least root and/or toor to print the test page)?


yes

  

since you say you cannot print the test page, I assume you ran hp-setup
from a gui and can get into cups admin afterwards --- have you set the
printer you defined in

Re: hplip setup problems


Isaac Mushinsky wrote:

On Wednesday 26 March 2008 00:21:12 Isaac Mushinsky wrote:
  

I am close to assasinating my HP Photosmart C4280 in frustration.

1. This is an all-in-one device. (I did not try the scanner setup yet)
2. ulpt, umass, uscanner modules are not in kernel and not kld-loaded.
3. Machine is FreeBSD 7-stable/amd64.
4. hplip is 2.8.2

$ usbdevs
addr 1: UHCI root hub, Intel
addr 1: UHCI root hub, Intel
addr 1: UHCI root hub, Intel
addr 1: EHCI root hub, Intel
 addr 2: Photosmart C4200 series, HP
addr 1: UHCI root hub, Intel
addr 1: UHCI root hub, Intel
addr 1: UHCI root hub, Intel
addr 1: EHCI root hub, Intel

There is a ppd file for these series with the hplip distribution.

hpssd, cups started in the order needed. hp-setup detects the printer, and
then says 'Unable to create queue'. CUPS web interface actually adds the
printer, but then cannot print test page to it. cups user runs hpssd (I
tried root too).

/var/log/messages has:
Mar 25 23:57:56 omsk python: io/hpmud/musb.c 135: unable
get_string_descriptor -5: Input/output error Mar 25 23:57:56 omsk python:
io/hpmud/musb.c 1951: invalid serial id string ret=-5

Here is all relevant output:
http://omsk.mushinsky.net/hplip-trouble

Any help is appreciated. Thanks.


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What is interesting is that the failure of usb_control_msg happens only 
when 'serial number' is requested. The function had been called successfully 
before that.


  
I do not know if it has something to do with my previous observation 
that you are missing slue of libraries?
But hp-check has to give you all REQUIRED outputs OK  before we start 
blaming drivers. I am ready to believe that
if you have all libraries installed manually and normal CUPS (please no 
develop version) that the things might work.


Best,
Predrag



# export USB_DEBUG=4
# hp-info

HP Linux Imaging and Printing System (ver. 2.8.2)
Device Information Utility ver. 3.4

Copyright (c) 2001-7 Hewlett-Packard Development Company, LP
This software comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY.
This is free software, and you are welcome to distribute it
under certain conditions. See COPYING file for more details.

usb_set_debug: Setting debugging level to 4 (on)
usb_os_find_busses: Found /dev/usb0
usb_os_find_busses: Found /dev/usb1
usb_os_find_busses: Found /dev/usb2
usb_os_find_busses: Found /dev/usb3
usb_os_find_busses: Found /dev/usb4
usb_os_find_busses: Found /dev/usb5
usb_os_find_busses: Found /dev/usb6
usb_os_find_busses: Found /dev/usb7
usb_os_find_devices: Found /dev/ugen0 on /dev/usb3
usb_control_msg: 128 6 512 0 0x7fff5a20 8 1000
usb_control_msg: 128 6 512 0 0x800d80100 124 1000
usb_control_msg: 128 6 770 1033 0x7fff5990 255 5000
usb_control_msg: 128 6 771 1033 0x7fff5990 255 5000
USB error: error sending control message: Input/output error
Using device: hp:/usb/Photosmart_C4200_series?serial=0

hp:/usb/Photosmart_C4200_series?serial=0

usb_set_debug: Setting debugging level to 4 (on)
usb_os_find_busses: Found /dev/usb0
usb_os_find_busses: Found /dev/usb1
usb_os_find_busses: Found /dev/usb2
usb_os_find_busses: Found /dev/usb3
usb_os_find_busses: Found /dev/usb4
usb_os_find_busses: Found /dev/usb5
usb_os_find_busses: Found /dev/usb6
usb_os_find_busses: Found /dev/usb7
usb_os_find_devices: Found /dev/ugen0 on /dev/usb3
usb_control_msg: 128 6 770 1033 0x7fffde60 255 5000
usb_control_msg: 128 6 771 1033 0x7fffde60 255 5000
USB error: error sending control message: Input/output error
error: Unable to communicate with device (code=12): 
hp:/usb/Photosmart_C4200_series?serial=0

error: Error opening device (Device not found). Exiting.


/var/log/messages:
Mar 26 09:17:14 omsk kernel: ugen0: rev 2.00/1.00, addr 2> on uhub3
Mar 26 09:17:23 omsk python: io/hpmud/musb.c 135: unable 
get_string_descriptor -5: Input/output error
Mar 26 09:17:23 omsk python: io/hpmud/musb.c 1951: invalid serial id string 
ret=-5
Mar 26 09:17:23 omsk python: io/hpmud/musb.c 135: unable 
get_string_descriptor -5: Input/output error
Mar 26 09:17:23 omsk python: io/hpmud/musb.c 615: invalid serial id string 
ret=-5
Mar 26 09:17:23 omsk python: io/hpmud/musb.c 1057: unable to open 
hp:/usb/Photosmart_C4200_series?serial=0
Mar 26 09:17:23 omsk python: hp-info[1074]: error: Unable to communicate with 
device (code=12): hp:/usb/Photosmart_C4200_series?serial=0
Mar 26 09:17:23 omsk python: hp-info[1074]: error: Error opening device 
(Device not found). Exiting.


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Re: hplip setup problems

Isaac Mushinsky wrote:
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 3:49 PM, Predrag Punosevac 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:

Isaac Mushinsky wrote:
Obviously the device can not communicate with the kernel. My first
hunch
would be to blame on ugen driver
of BSD but look at this lines from hp-check that I copied from you
message.
You are missing slue of REQUIRED libraries.

Well, hp-check seems broken, so I wouldn't take it all that seriously. 
It probably only works on linux. How can it complain of missing libusb 
and then proceed to use it?

Actually that is a new information to me. On my OpenBSD 4.3 current 
hp-check works like a charm.

You can manually check if you have each one of those libraries.

You are probably right about the fact that failure to get serial device 
number is the show stopper but that seems
that points again to inability of ugen driver to fully communicate with 
the printer. I started dusting of my C skills (in the real life I am a 
mathematician) in particularly because I want look those  drivers for 
USB devices.

Sorry, I could not be of more help. As I said earlier you can use 
printing function if you leave ulpt driver but that

definitely kills the purpose of having all-in-one device.

Best,

Predrag

hplip finds the device correctly, and gets the vendor/product id. The 
immediate show stopper is failure to get serial number of the device. 
Or is it? it seems to be the only place where a libusb call fails. I 
am not sure if it is HP's fault or an hplip/io/hpmud problem, though.

Are you running CUPS development version.

I am running on a standard cups from ports. It was installed as 
requirement by KDE or something. Besides, there seems to be no problem 
with cups itself.

You are not supposed to do
that. You can try to install
each of the missing libraries by hand and then try hp-setup. Something
is very WRONG with your installation.
Even better. If you have a spare machine to for testing. Try one more
time to install things. Install firstly CUPS and SANE-backends and
then
install HPLIP (nothing else). If you see the same output from hp-check
try installing
missing libraries by hand. If after all everything works I would
reports
HPLIP port as broken as the required libraries
should be installed as dependencies.  On the positive side SANE seems
see the scanner. Can you scan?

Didn't even try to scan yet. It doesn't matter at this point. I have 
another (film) scanner that works, though.
hplip printer driver seems to see the printer too, seeing is clearly 
not the problem.

Checking output of 'scanimage -L'...
device `hpaio:/usb/Photosmart_C4200_series?serial=0' is a
Hewlett-Packard
Photosmart_C4200_series all-in-one

found USB scanner (vendor=0x03f0 [HP], product=0x5c11 [Photosmart
C4200
series]) at libusb:/dev/usb3:/dev/ugen0

Checking for dependency: cups-devel- Common Unix Printing System
development
files...
error: NOT FOUND! This is a REQUIRED/COMPILE TIME ONLY dependency.
Please make
sure that this dependency is installed before installing or
running HPLIP.

Checking for dependency: libcrypto - OpenSSL cryptographic library...
error: NOT FOUND! This is a REQUIRED dependency. Please make sure
that this
dependency is installed before installing or running HPLIP.

Checking for dependency: libjpeg - JPEG library...
error: NOT FOUND! This is a REQUIRED dependency. Please make sure
that this
dependency is installed before installing or running HPLIP.

Checking for dependency: libnetsnmp-devel - SNMP networking library
development files...
error: NOT FOUND! This is a REQUIRED dependency. Please make sure
that this
dependency is installed before installing or running HPLIP.

Checking for dependency: libpthread - POSIX threads library...
error: NOT FOUND! This is a REQUIRED dependency. Please make sure
that this

Checking for dependency: libusb - USB library...
error: NOT FOUND! This is a REQUIRED dependency. Please make sure
that this
dependency is installed before installing or running HPLIP.

Checking for dependency: make - GNU make utility to maintain groups of
programs...
error: NOT FOUND! This is a REQUIRED/COMPILE TIME ONLY dependency.
Please make
sure that this dependency is installed before installing or
running HPLIP.
dependency is installed before installing or running HPLIP.

Checking for dependency: python-devel - Python development files...
error: NOT FOUND! This is a REQUIRED/COMPILE TIME ONLY dependency.
Please make
sure that this dependency is installed before installing or
running HPLIP.

> On Wednesday 26 March 2008 04:29:45 you wrote:
>
>> Isaac Mushinsky wrote:
>>
>&g

Re: hplip setup problems


Isaac Mushinsky wrote:

On Wednesday 26 March 2008 00:21:12 Isaac Mushinsky wrote:
  

I am close to assasinating my HP Photosmart C4280 in frustration.

1. This is an all-in-one device. (I did not try the scanner setup yet)
2. ulpt, umass, uscanner modules are not in kernel and not kld-loaded.
3. Machine is FreeBSD 7-stable/amd64.
4. hplip is 2.8.2

$ usbdevs
addr 1: UHCI root hub, Intel
addr 1: UHCI root hub, Intel
addr 1: UHCI root hub, Intel
addr 1: EHCI root hub, Intel
 addr 2: Photosmart C4200 series, HP
addr 1: UHCI root hub, Intel
addr 1: UHCI root hub, Intel
addr 1: UHCI root hub, Intel
addr 1: EHCI root hub, Intel

There is a ppd file for these series with the hplip distribution.

hpssd, cups started in the order needed. hp-setup detects the printer, and
then says 'Unable to create queue'. CUPS web interface actually adds the
printer, but then cannot print test page to it. cups user runs hpssd (I
tried root too).

/var/log/messages has:
Mar 25 23:57:56 omsk python: io/hpmud/musb.c 135: unable
get_string_descriptor -5: Input/output error Mar 25 23:57:56 omsk python:
io/hpmud/musb.c 1951: invalid serial id string ret=-5

Here is all relevant output:
http://omsk.mushinsky.net/hplip-trouble

Any help is appreciated. Thanks.


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final piece of information: sane cannot open the HP all-in-one as a scanner 
with same error (getting serial id). However, my Nikon LS40-ED (a 35mm film 
scanner) works fine. So the problem is apparently not my installation or 
libusb.


  
I would not bet my life on it. There are two ways on which sane-backend 
talk to scanners. Libusb is one of the ways.
I have two Epson scanners. One of them does use libusb one of them 
doesn't not. How do I know. Well in OpenBSD when the scanner uses libusb 
you have to remove uscanner driver from the kernel in order to use it.


Cheers,
Predrag


~> sane-find-scanner 


  # sane-find-scanner will now attempt to detect your scanner. If the
  # result is different from what you expected, first make sure your
  # scanner is powered up and properly connected to your computer.

  # No SCSI scanners found. If you expected something different, make sure 
that

  # you have loaded a kernel SCSI driver for your SCSI adapter.

found USB scanner (vendor=0x04b0 [Nikon], product=0x4000 [LS-40 ED]) at 
libusb:/dev/usb2:/dev/ugen1
found USB scanner (vendor=0x03f0 [HP], product=0x5c11 [Photosmart C4200 
series]) at libusb:/dev/usb3:/dev/ugen0
  # Your USB scanner was (probably) detected. It may or may not be supported 
by

  # SANE. Try scanimage -L and read the backend's manpage.

  # Not checking for parallel port scanners.

  # Most Scanners connected to the parallel port or other proprietary ports
  # can't be detected by this program.

  # You may want to run this program as root to find all devices. Once you
  # found the scanner devices, be sure to adjust access permissions as
  # necessary.

The Nikon scanner works, the HP device fails to return serial id as above.
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Re: hplip setup problems


Isaac Mushinsky wrote:

On Wednesday 26 March 2008 23:31:26 Predrag Punosevac wrote:
  

Isaac Mushinsky wrote:


On Wednesday 26 March 2008 00:21:12 Isaac Mushinsky wrote:
  

I am close to assasinating my HP Photosmart C4280 in frustration.

1. This is an all-in-one device. (I did not try the scanner setup yet)
2. ulpt, umass, uscanner modules are not in kernel and not kld-loaded.
3. Machine is FreeBSD 7-stable/amd64.
4. hplip is 2.8.2

$ usbdevs
addr 1: UHCI root hub, Intel
addr 1: UHCI root hub, Intel
addr 1: UHCI root hub, Intel
addr 1: EHCI root hub, Intel
 addr 2: Photosmart C4200 series, HP
addr 1: UHCI root hub, Intel
addr 1: UHCI root hub, Intel
addr 1: UHCI root hub, Intel
addr 1: EHCI root hub, Intel

There is a ppd file for these series with the hplip distribution.

hpssd, cups started in the order needed. hp-setup detects the printer,
and then says 'Unable to create queue'. CUPS web interface actually adds
the printer, but then cannot print test page to it. cups user runs hpssd
(I tried root too).

/var/log/messages has:
Mar 25 23:57:56 omsk python: io/hpmud/musb.c 135: unable
get_string_descriptor -5: Input/output error Mar 25 23:57:56 omsk
python: io/hpmud/musb.c 1951: invalid serial id string ret=-5

Here is all relevant output:
http://omsk.mushinsky.net/hplip-trouble

Any help is appreciated. Thanks.


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final piece of information: sane cannot open the HP all-in-one as a
scanner with same error (getting serial id). However, my Nikon LS40-ED (a
35mm film scanner) works fine. So the problem is apparently not my
installation or libusb.
  

I would not bet my life on it. There are two ways on which sane-backend
talk to scanners. Libusb is one of the ways.
I have two Epson scanners. One of them does use libusb one of them
doesn't not. How do I know. Well in OpenBSD when the scanner uses libusb
you have to remove uscanner driver from the kernel in order to use it.

Cheers,
Predrag



~> sane-find-scanner

  # sane-find-scanner will now attempt to detect your scanner. If the
  # result is different from what you expected, first make sure your
  # scanner is powered up and properly connected to your computer.

  # No SCSI scanners found. If you expected something different, make
sure that
  # you have loaded a kernel SCSI driver for your SCSI adapter.

found USB scanner (vendor=0x04b0 [Nikon], product=0x4000 [LS-40 ED]) at
libusb:/dev/usb2:/dev/ugen1
found USB scanner (vendor=0x03f0 [HP], product=0x5c11 [Photosmart C4200
series]) at libusb:/dev/usb3:/dev/ugen0
  # Your USB scanner was (probably) detected. It may or may not be
supported by
  # SANE. Try scanimage -L and read the backend's manpage.

  # Not checking for parallel port scanners.

  # Most Scanners connected to the parallel port or other proprietary
ports # can't be detected by this program.

  # You may want to run this program as root to find all devices. Once
you # found the scanner devices, be sure to adjust access permissions as
# necessary.

The Nikon scanner works, the HP device fails to return serial id as
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I have a spare partition, so when I have the time I'll try to install linux on 
it and see. This printer is listed as supported and 'working perfectly' on 
linuxprinting.org


Also, I loaded ulpt and it is able to talk to the printer.
  


That is the whole point of the discussion. HPLIP is written for Linux 
and at least my experience with HPLIP on Ubuntu you just plug things and 
they work. So the problem is definitely not in HPLIP but in 
configuration and possibly FreeBSD drivers.  Using Ubuntu will  also  
not  help you  with FreeBSD configuration.


Cheers,
Predrag

P. S. One way of approaching the problem is to attach that all-in-one 
device on Linux machine and use it on your FreeBSD machine via the network.



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Re: hplip setup problems

2008-03-27 Thread Predrag Punosevac


Isaac Mushinsky wrote:

Anish Mistry (the port maintainer) has answered below. It seems that this is
a printer defect after all then. I'll try to patch the code to fill in the
missing serial id with some fake string, and shall report if I get the thing
to work.

Is the hp backend the only entry point to libusb, or should I have to patch
libusb? e.g. cups or sane apps, can they call libusb directly, or only
through hpaio backend? I would rather have a patch to hplip distribution
only, because libusb correctly throws an error code for the missing serial
id. But if some apps query the device directly, the missing serial id may be
a problem, they will all have to all be patched separately.


  
I wouldn't touch HPLIP. If something is wrong report upstream. They 
should patch. No you do not have to patch any

applications.

Look at the files

usr/src/sys/dev/usb/usbdevs

usr//src/sys/dev/usb/ugen.c (I think that this one needs to be patched)

usr/src/sys/dev/usb/uscanner.c

Cheers,
OKO


 It looks like there is some problem with the C42XX printers that is
causing the serial numbers to no be reported.  I got a similar report
about a HP Photosmart C4200 series a couple weeks ago.  Unfortunately
I'm VERY busy right now.  It will be a couple of week before I can
dive into the issue.  If you do happen to find a solution, please let
me know so I can integrate it into the port and notify others.
 Thanks,
 --
Anish Mistry
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AM Productions http://am-productions.biz/



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Re: Laptop advice

2008-03-27 Thread Predrag Punosevac


Mike Jeays wrote:

On March 27, 2008 03:09:42 pm mdh wrote:
  

--- David Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 01:53:57PM -0400, Joe Demeny

wrote:
  

In the end, the best advice seems to be indeed to


take the FreeBSD CD

  

to the brick-and-mortar store...


Or you could purchase an Apple Mac Book and have a
commercially
supported Unix pre-installed. Guess that would take
all the "fun" out of
it?
  
I would get ThinkPad T30 or T23 from Ebay. They will work just fine with 
FreeBSD.

They go for $190-250.

Cheers,
Predrag



While I like Mac products and OSX is pretty cool, I
still find their laptops a bit pricey.

By the by, has anyone tried FreeBSD on one of those
little Asus EEEpc sublaptops?  A real, tiny, i386
laptop for $300 (plus maybe a bit more for an
additional SD card to bump the storage some) seems
like a truly awesome deal.



 
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I bought an Eee PC, but haven't tried any other software on it yet.  I can 
confirm that the hardware is a bargain, and I used it 'as is' while 
travelling for ten days, and it connected 'out of the box' to the wireless 
service provided in each hotel.  A mouse is a great help, although the 
built-in pad is quite usable.  I had no trouble with the tiny keyboard, 
except for needing the light on to read the keys.


They are a really great innovation, IMHO.  I am really pleased with mine.

The wireless card may be the problem with FreeBSD.



  


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Re: Reconditioned Laptop advice

2008-03-28 Thread Predrag Punosevac

dhaneshk k wrote:

People   : I want to bu a laptop , for the time being I can't go for a 
high end machine like hp8510b or like those

But I found in internet , about IBM  Thinkpad T40   Reconditioned :

ThinkPads are the highest quality machines. I honestly thing that there 
is nothing on the market which matches their
quality including Apple laptops.  I have ThingPad 390E PII which is 
seven years old and work like Swiss watch.

I bought it on an auction five years ago for $220.
The so called power sellers on Ebay are actually IBM or Lenovo proxy 
sellers. They sell machines which are back from

the business lease without charging customers taxes. ThinkPads love FreeBSD.

Best,
Predrag

So I want  people's valuable advice on Reconditioned machine ;is it 
safe to have this machine , I want to use FreeBSD on this machine , 
what about the reliability of Reconditioned machines ?: your advices 
may help me to take a good decision on my purchase.

thanks in advance
dhanesh

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Re: Auto Mounting USB Sticks and CD's

2008-03-28 Thread Predrag Punosevac


Norberto Meijome wrote:

On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 01:22:55 -0500
"Sam Fourman Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  

Hello,

I have a FreeBSD 7.0 install, and I am running the Gnome Desktop (2.22)
I was hoping that someone had a nice HOWTO or could paste their config files.
I want my usb sticks to auto mount when I insert them like they do on PC-BSD



not sure how Gnome does it, but I would imagine it uses hald for it. u may have 
it installed already ( man pkg_info if u don't know ;) ).

u need to add this to your rc.conf to have it all running on startup

hald_enable="YES"
polkitd_enable="YES"
dbus_enable="YES"

  



The HALD needs to be started in the specific order as

# enable HALd
dbus_enable="YES"
polkitd_enable="YES"
hald_enable="YES"


/etc/fstab needs to be edited

/dev/cd0 /usr/home/Pedja/mnt/cdrom cd9660   rw, noauto  0   0
/dev/acd0/usr/home/Pedja/mnt/cdrom cd9660   rw, noauto  0   0
/dev/fd0 /usr/home/Pedja/mnt/floppy msdosfs rw, noauto  0   0
/dev/ugen0 /usr/home/Pedja/mnt/camera msdosfs rw, noauto  0   0


/etc/devfs.conf neets to be edited

# Allow all users to mount the floppy disk.
own   /dev/fd0root:operator
perm  /dev/fd00666

# Allow members of the group operator to mount CD-ROMs.

perm  /dev/acd0   0666
perm  /dev/cd00666

# Commonly used by many ports  
link  cd0 cdrom

link  cd0  dvd
link  cd0  rdvd

link  acd0 cdrom
link  acd0 dvd
link  acd0 rdvd


# Misc other devices

permcdrom   0666
permdvd 0666
permrdvd0666
permcd0 0666
permata 0666
permxpt00666
permpass0   0666
perm/dev/uscanner0 0666
permusb*  0666
permulpt* 0666
permlpt00666 
permugen*   0666


also you have to add in /etc/sysctl.conf

vfs.usermount=1



For USB stick also /etc/usbd.conf needs to be edited. I mount USB stick 
manually so figure out yourself.


Either read documentation or copy important files from PC-BSD.


I know that if I put gnome_enable in my /etc/rc.conf then it all works
BUT, I would prefer not to use gdm on bootup



Kevin replied to this. I would just add, if you want some other login manager 
to run, (xdm, wdm), you'd have to install them and enable them in rc.conf

If you follow Kevin's email by the letter, you'll have to log in to the text 
console and launch your X session manually.

  

I also am having trouble trying to get k3b to burn CD''s without being root



man devfs.conf

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Re: Reconditioned Laptop advice

2008-03-28 Thread Predrag Punosevac


Robert Huff wrote:

Predrag Punosevac writes:

  

 ThinkPads are the highest quality machines. I honestly thing that
 there is nothing on the market which matches their quality
 including Apple laptops.



/Caveat emptor/.  I'm hearing reports from those who deal with
laptops much more that I do that quality has dropped substantially
since Lenovo took over.


Robert Huff


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T23, T30, T40, T43 were made by IBM.

Best,
Predrag
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Re: SIP compatible phone program for unix

2008-03-30 Thread Predrag Punosevac


Wojciech Puchar wrote:

anyone knows such - pure text mode prefered.

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OpenBSD 4.3 is including PJSUA which is  not  ported  for  FreeBSD.

http://www.pjsip.org/pjsua.htm

I tried it and I really like it. If you compare various SIP clients you 
should see that PJSUA should be a first
choice for security minded user which prefers simplicity and capability 
instead of GUI non-sense.


Cheers,
Predrag
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Re: finding BSD Unix users

2008-04-06 Thread Predrag Punosevac


Chad Perrin wrote:

My area (northern Colorado) has an excellent Linux Users Group (NCLUG).
There's a great bunch of guys there.  Unfortunately, they're very
Linux-centric.  I'm kinda the resident BSD Unix heretic -- which is fine
most of the time, but once in a while I'd like to be able to discuss
stuff with people who primarily use BSD Unix systems instead of
Linux-based systems.

Unfortunately, there isn't a single Colorado BSD Users Group in Colorado
that I can find.  The closest I've been able to find mention of online at
all is Laramie, Wyoming -- LWFUG, or "Laramie, Wyoming Freenix Users
Group".  Their website seems to have become a domain squatter's portal
site, though.

So . . . does anyone here have any suggestions for how I might go about
finding BSD Unix users somewhat local to me?  Since there isn't a group
already that I can find, I wonder if there are enough people interested
in such a thing in this area to build a users group.  Any suggestions for
how to go about finding fellow BSD Unix users in my area would be
appreciated, I'm sure.

  


I would put an add in the local newspaper and ask if there are any BSD 
users around.

That is exactly how the Tucson Free Unix Group started  a  decade  ago.
Unfortunately since then  TFUG  has  become  increasingly dominated by 
Linux users and Windows converts

(who maybe run Ubuntu on a small partition or via VMware).

As in your case that was fine for a while but at some point it became 
increasingly difficult for both sides to tolerate
each other so I voluntarily  sized  all my  activity  in  the  group.  
The timing coincide with my decision to switch to OpenBSD:-) I  do know  
of  two  other BSD users on TFUG (one NetBSD and another younger member 
is using FreeBSD) as well as few Solaris users  but I didn't stay in 
touch with them.


Cheers,
Predrag

P. S. There is a very strong local BSD group in Phoenix but they are 
much to far away from Tucson that I could participate in their activity.



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Re: Screen resolution on FreeBSD 7.0

2008-04-09 Thread Predrag Punosevac


Nishita Desai wrote:

From: Nishita Desai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 10:26 PM
Subject: Screen resolution on FreeBSD 7.0
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


  
You are missing line DefaultDepth 24. Remove i810 and install Intel 
driver from ports instead. Adjust xorg.conf
accordingly. You my want to use xrandr to experiment with different 
modes dynamically.

Cheers,
Predrag


Hello,

 I just installed FreeBSD 7.0 on a Dell Inspirion 640m notebook and am
 trying to get the screen resolution right. I need a 1280x800
 wide-screen resolution and according to the Handbook, I should be able
 to do that by modifying the xorg.conf. I also have Ubuntu running a
 nice resolution on the other partition (slice) so I used the "Screen"
 section of it's xorg.conf to make the changes

 Here is the xorg.conf file:

 --
 Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "X.org Configured"
Screen  0  "Screen0" 0 0
InputDevice"Mouse0" "CorePointer"
InputDevice"Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
 EndSection

 Section "Files"
RgbPath  "/usr/local/share/X11/rgb"
ModulePath   "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules"
FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/"
FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/"
FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF"
FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/"
FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/"
FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/"
 EndSection

 Section "Module"
Load  "GLcore"
Load  "dbe"
Load  "dri"
Load  "extmod"
Load  "glx"
Load  "record"
Load  "xtrap"
Load  "freetype"
Load  "type1"
 EndSection

 Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Keyboard0"
Driver  "kbd"
 EndSection

 Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Mouse0"
Driver  "mouse"
Option  "Protocol" "auto"
Option  "Device" "/dev/sysmouse"
Option  "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7"
 EndSection

 Section "Monitor"
#DisplaySize  300   190 # mm
Identifier   "Monitor0"
VendorName   "QDS"
ModelName"47"
 EndSection

 Section "Device"
Identifier  "Card0"
Driver  "i810"
VendorName  "Intel Corporation"
BoardName   "Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics
 Controller"
BusID   "PCI:0:2:0"
 EndSection

 Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Card0"
Monitor"Monitor0"
SubSection "Display"
Viewport   0 0
Depth 24
Modes "1280x800"
EndSubSection
 EndSection

 


 I also found this in /var/log/Xorg.0.log

 (II) I810(0): Monitor0: Using hsync range of 45.71-50.53 kHz
 (II) I810(0): Monitor0: Using vrefresh value of 60.00 Hz
 (II) I810(0): Not using mode "1280x800" (no mode of this name)
 (--) I810(0): Virtual size is 1024x768 (pitch 1024)
 (**) I810(0):  Built-in mode "1024x768"

 Can anyone help?

 Thanks,
 Nishita.
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Re: finding BSD Unix users

2008-04-10 Thread Predrag Punosevac


Steve Franks wrote:

On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 1:21 PM, Predrag Punosevac
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  

Chad Perrin wrote:



My area (northern Colorado) has an excellent Linux Users Group (NCLUG).
There's a great bunch of guys there.  Unfortunately, they're very
Linux-centric.  I'm kinda the resident BSD Unix heretic -- which is fine
most of the time, but once in a while I'd like to be able to discuss
stuff with people who primarily use BSD Unix systems instead of
Linux-based systems.

Unfortunately, there isn't a single Colorado BSD Users Group in Colorado
that I can find.  The closest I've been able to find mention of online at
all is Laramie, Wyoming -- LWFUG, or "Laramie, Wyoming Freenix Users
Group".  Their website seems to have become a domain squatter's portal
site, though.

So . . . does anyone here have any suggestions for how I might go about
finding BSD Unix users somewhat local to me?  Since there isn't a group
already that I can find, I wonder if there are enough people interested
in such a thing in this area to build a users group.  Any suggestions for
how to go about finding fellow BSD Unix users in my area would be
appreciated, I'm sure.



  

 I would put an add in the local newspaper and ask if there are any BSD
users around.
 That is exactly how the Tucson Free Unix Group started  a  decade  ago.
 Unfortunately since then  TFUG  has  become  increasingly dominated by
Linux users and Windows converts
 (who maybe run Ubuntu on a small partition or via VMware).

 As in your case that was fine for a while but at some point it became
increasingly difficult for both sides to tolerate
 each other so I voluntarily  sized  all my  activity  in  the  group.  The
timing coincide with my decision to switch to OpenBSD:-) I  do know  of  two
other BSD users on TFUG (one NetBSD and another younger member is using
FreeBSD) as well as few Solaris users  but I didn't stay in touch with them.

 Cheers,
 Predrag

 P. S. There is a very strong local BSD group in Phoenix but they are much
to far away from Tucson that I could participate in their activity.


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I'm a Tucson FBSD user!  We should meet at the safehouse or similar sometime!

Steve

  
I am all for it. Just contact me of the list whenever you have time to 
meet with me and we will figure out something.


Best,
Predrag


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Re: Printer getting attached to umass and da

2008-04-12 Thread Predrag Punosevac


Steven Friedrich wrote:

On Saturday 12 April 2008 04:29:20 pm Warren Block wrote:
  

On Sat, 12 Apr 2008, Steven Friedrich wrote:


From messages:
messages:Apr 12 09:39:55 laptop kernel: ulpt0:  on uhub4
messages:Apr 12 09:39:55 laptop kernel: umass0:  on uhub4
messages:Apr 12 09:39:55 laptop kernel: da0: 
Removable Direct Access SCSI-2 device

Why is it getting attached to umass and da?
  

Most likely the printer has memory card slots that are accessible via
USB.



Should I config something to stop this?
  

Not unless it's causing a problem.

-Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA



It does have slots for memory...
I can't get this printer to work, and the cups error_log shows no errors.
I had been reading a HOW-TO on the CUPS site and I set the loglevel to debug, 
figuring I'd get a message about a broken pipe due to a missing filter.
No such luck. Far as CUPS is concerned, it's working. But it only feeds sheet 
after sheet and occasionally prints garbage.

I've tried CUPS test page and a one sheet doc from KATE.
The gutenprint doc says I should have an Epson backend 
in /usr/lib/cups/backend (but I think on freebsd it will be 
in /usr/local/libexec/cups/backend).

But it's not there...
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Remove the umass driver from the kernel (you have to recompile) and then 
configure printer. Then load
umass driver after the boot with kldload utility since otherwise you 
will not be able to use Floppy disk and USB sticks


Cheers,
Predrag
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HPLIP I forgot rc.conf file


I forgot to give you my rc.conf file

# This file now contains just the overrides from /etc/defaults/rc.conf.
blanktime="60"
hostname=".domain.actdsltmp"
ifconfig_ral0="DHCP"
linux_enable="YES"
moused_enable="YES"
saver="blank"
usbd_enable="YES"


# added by Predrag by typing
gnome_enable="YES"
lpd_enable="NO"
cupsd_enable="YES"
hpiod_enable="YES"
hpssd_enable="YES"
oss_enable="YES"
clear_tmp_enable="NO"   # Clear /tmp at startup.
clear_tmp_X="YES"   # Clear and recreate X11-related directories in /tmp

# added by xorg-libraries port
local_startup="/usr/local/etc/rc.d"
accounting_enable=YES

Sincerely,
Predrag Punosevac

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OfficeJet R60 and HPLIP

 acpi0
fdc0:  port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 
on acpi0

fdc0: [FAST]
fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0
ppc0:  port 0x378-0x37f,0x778-0x77f irq 7 drq 
3 on acpi0

ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode
ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/9 bytes threshold
ppbus0:  on ppc0
ppbus0: IEEE1284 device found /NIBBLE/ECP
Probing for PnP devices on ppbus0:
ppbus0:  PRINTER MLC,PCL,PML,SCL
plip0:  on ppbus0
lpt0:  on ppbus0
lpt0: Interrupt-driven port
ppi0:  on ppbus0
acpi_hpet0:  iomem 0xfed0-0xfed003ff on 
acpi0

Timecounter "HPET" frequency 14318180 Hz quality 2000
atkbdc0:  port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0
atkbd0:  irq 1 on atkbdc0
kbd0 at atkbd0
atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
psm0:  irq 12 on atkbdc0
psm0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
psm0: model IntelliMouse Explorer, device ID 4
sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on 
acpi0

sio0: type 16550A
pmtimer0 on isa0
orm0:  at iomem 0xcb000-0xcbfff on isa0
sc0:  at flags 0x100 on isa0
sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300>
sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
sio1: port may not be enabled
vga0:  at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa-0xb on isa0
Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec
acd0: DVDR  at ata0-slave UDMA66
ad4: 152627MB  at ata2-master SATA150
SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched!
Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad4s1a
g_vfs_done():acd0[READ(offset=32768, length=2048)]error = 5
audigyls0:  port 0xc800-0xc81f irq 22 at device 10.0 on pci1
g_vfs_done():acd0[READ(offset=32768, length=2048)]error = 5
drmsub0: : (child of agp_i810.c) on agp0
info: [drm] AGP at 0xcfd0 0MB
info: [drm] Initialized i915 1.5.0 20060119
stray irq7

Running as a root user I see that hp-setup utility  expect to find 
parallel port device

on
/dev/parport0

I do not have /dev/parport0 in /dev/  as you can see
[pedja@ /dev]$ ls
acd0dri kbd0psm0ttyv3
acpidsp kbd1ptyp0   ttyv4
ad4 dsp0kbdmux0 ptyp1   ttyv5
ad4s1   dsp1klogptyp2   ttyv6
ad4s1a  dsp2kmemptyp3   ttyv7
ad4s1b  dsp3log ptyp4   ttyv8
ad4s1c  dsp4lpt0random  ttyv9
ad4s1d  dsp5lpt0.ctlrdvdttyva
ad4s1e  dsp6mdctl   sndstat ttyvb
ad4s1f  dsp7mem stderr  ttyvc
agpgart dsp8mixer   stdin   ttyvd
apm dsp_ac3 mixer0  stdout  ttyve
ata dsp_mmapnet sysmousettyvf
atkbd0  dsp_multich net1ttyd0   urandom
bpf0dvd net2ttyd0.init  usb
bpsm0   fd  net3ttyd0.lock  usb0
console fd0 net4ttyp0   usb1
consolectl  fidonetwork ttyp1   usb2
cttyfw0 nfs4ttyp2   usb3
cuad0   fw0.0   nfslock ttyp3   usb4
cuad0.init  fwmem0  nullttyp4   xpt0
cuad0.lock  fwmem0.0oss ttyv0   zero
devctl  geom.ctlpci ttyv1
devstat io  ppi0ttyv2

so I tried manually to specify the device not as /dev/ppc0 (but ppc0 is 
also not in /dev
also I do not have /dev/ppc0) I also tried /dev/lpt0 as a device node 
since I can get printer reacting on lptest > /dev/lpt0. Unfortunately it 
prints only one line of codes instead of whole page. I was not playing 
enough with LP in hope of being able to do HPLIP


Could anybody tell me what am I doing so wrong and give me some kind of 
directions?  Sorry for this simple question.


Sincerely,
Predrag Punosevac
Department of Mathematics
University of Arizona

P.S.
I tried to use CUPS but it seems to me that cups expects printer to be 
detected as USB or network printer. ( I am messing up something big time 
with the parallel ports).
All I have done was from the root account (I will set permissions 
latter). My computer is set up to run as a free standing Desktop so the 
host name is something generic.







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HP OfficeJet R60 using HPLIP

0:  port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 
on acpi0

fdc0: [FAST]
fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0
ppc0:  port 0x378-0x37f,0x778-0x77f irq 7 drq 
3 on acpi0

ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode
ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/9 bytes threshold
ppbus0:  on ppc0
ppbus0: IEEE1284 device found /NIBBLE/ECP
Probing for PnP devices on ppbus0:
ppbus0:  PRINTER MLC,PCL,PML,SCL
plip0:  on ppbus0
lpt0:  on ppbus0
lpt0: Interrupt-driven port
ppi0:  on ppbus0
acpi_hpet0:  iomem 0xfed0-0xfed003ff on 
acpi0

Timecounter "HPET" frequency 14318180 Hz quality 2000
atkbdc0:  port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0
atkbd0:  irq 1 on atkbdc0
kbd0 at atkbd0
atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
psm0:  irq 12 on atkbdc0
psm0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
psm0: model IntelliMouse Explorer, device ID 4
sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on 
acpi0

sio0: type 16550A
pmtimer0 on isa0
orm0:  at iomem 0xcb000-0xcbfff on isa0
sc0:  at flags 0x100 on isa0
sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300>
sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
sio1: port may not be enabled
vga0:  at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa-0xb on isa0
Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec
acd0: DVDR  at ata0-slave UDMA66
ad4: 152627MB  at ata2-master SATA150
SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched!
Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad4s1a
g_vfs_done():acd0[READ(offset=32768, length=2048)]error = 5
audigyls0:  port 0xc800-0xc81f irq 22 at device 10.0 on pci1
g_vfs_done():acd0[READ(offset=32768, length=2048)]error = 5
drmsub0: : (child of agp_i810.c) on agp0
info: [drm] AGP at 0xcfd0 0MB
info: [drm] Initialized i915 1.5.0 20060119
stray irq7

Running as a root user I see that hp-setup utility  expect to find 
parallel port device

on
/dev/parport0

I do not have /dev/parport0 in /dev/  as you can see
[pedja@ /dev]$ ls
acd0dri kbd0psm0ttyv3
acpidsp kbd1ptyp0   ttyv4
ad4 dsp0kbdmux0 ptyp1   ttyv5
ad4s1   dsp1klogptyp2   ttyv6
ad4s1a  dsp2kmemptyp3   ttyv7
ad4s1b  dsp3log ptyp4   ttyv8
ad4s1c  dsp4lpt0random  ttyv9
ad4s1d  dsp5lpt0.ctlrdvdttyva
ad4s1e  dsp6mdctl   sndstat ttyvb
ad4s1f  dsp7mem stderr  ttyvc
agpgart dsp8mixer   stdin   ttyvd
apm dsp_ac3 mixer0  stdout  ttyve
ata dsp_mmapnet sysmousettyvf
atkbd0  dsp_multich net1ttyd0   urandom
bpf0dvd net2ttyd0.init  usb
bpsm0   fd  net3ttyd0.lock  usb0
console fd0 net4ttyp0   usb1
consolectl  fidonetwork ttyp1   usb2
cttyfw0 nfs4ttyp2   usb3
cuad0   fw0.0   nfslock ttyp3   usb4
cuad0.init  fwmem0  nullttyp4   xpt0
cuad0.lock  fwmem0.0oss ttyv0   zero
devctl  geom.ctlpci ttyv1
devstat io  ppi0ttyv2

so I tried manually to specify the device not as /dev/ppc0 (but ppc0 is 
also not in /dev
also I do not have /dev/ppc0) I also tried /dev/lpt0 as a device node 
since I can get printer reacting on lptest > /dev/lpt0. Unfortunately it 
prints only one line of codes instead of whole page. I was not playing 
enough with LP in hope of being able to do HPLIP


Could anybody tell me what am I doing so wrong and give me some kind of 
directions?  Sorry for this simple question.

My rc.conf file#

This file now contains just the overrides from /etc/defaults/rc.conf.
blanktime="60"
hostname=".domain.actdsltmp"
ifconfig_ral0="DHCP"
linux_enable="YES"
moused_enable="YES"
saver="blank"
usbd_enable="YES"


# added by Predrag by typing
gnome_enable="YES"
lpd_enable="NO"
cupsd_enable="YES"
hpiod_enable="YES"
hpssd_enable="YES"
oss_enable="YES"
clear_tmp_enable="NO"   # Clear /tmp at startup.
clear_tmp_X="YES"   # Clear and recreate X11-related directories in 
/tmp


# added by xorg-libraries port
local_startup="/usr/local/etc/rc.d"
accounting_enable=YES

Sincerely,
Predrag Punosevac
Department of Mathematics
University of Arizona

P.S.
I tried to use CUPS in order to use Gutenprint drivers but it seems to 
me that cups expects printer to be detected as USB or network printer. ( 
I am messing up something big time with the parallel ports).

OSS troubles

Sorry for the another message. This is the last one I promise. I just 
realized that I have problems with Open Sound System (probably due to my 
own stupidity).

This is my
[pedja@ /usr/home/Pedja]$ ossinfo
Version info: OSS 4.0 (build 070707/200708012238/C (0x00040002)
Platform: FreeBSD/i386 6.2-STABLE-200706 FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE-200706 #0: 
Sun Jun  3 14:20:02 UTC 2007 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SMP


Number of audio devices:9
Number of audio engines:9
Number of MIDI devices: 0
Number of mixer devices:1


Device objects
0: audigyls0 AudigyLS
1: vmix0 OSS transparent virtual support

MIDI devices (/dev/midi*)

Mixer devices (/dev/mixer*)
0: AudigyLS Mixer (Mixer 0 of device object 0)

Audio devices
/dev/oss/audigyls0/pcm0 AudigyLS front  (device index 0)
/dev/oss/audigyls0/pcm1 AudigyLS (shadow)  (device index 1)
/dev/oss/audigyls0/pcm2 AudigyLS center/lfe  (device index 2)
/dev/oss/audigyls0/pcm3 AudigyLS surround  (device index 3)
/dev/oss/audigyls0/pcm4 AudigyLS 5.1 output  (device index 4)
/dev/oss/vmix0/pcm0 AudigyLS front (VMIX0)  (device index 5)
/dev/oss/vmix0/pcm1 AudigyLS front (VMIX0)  (device index 6)
/dev/oss/vmix0/pcm2 AudigyLS front (VMIX0)  (device index 7)
/dev/oss/vmix0/pcm3 AudigyLS front (VMIX0)  (device index 8)

This is testing


[root@ ~]# osstest
Sound subsystem and version: OSS 4.0 (build 070707/200708012238/C 
(0x00040002)
Platform: FreeBSD/i386 6.2-STABLE-200706 FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE-200706 #0: 
Sun Jun  3 14:20:02 UTC 2007 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SMP


*** Scanning sound adapter #-1 ***
/dev/oss/audigyls0/pcm0 (audio engine 0): AudigyLS front
- Performing audio playback test...
  OK  OK  OK 
/dev/oss/audigyls0/pcm1 (audio engine 1): AudigyLS (shadow)
- Skipping device (card already tested)
/dev/oss/audigyls0/pcm2 (audio engine 2): AudigyLS center/lfe
- Performing audio playback test...
  OK  OK  OK 
/dev/oss/audigyls0/pcm3 (audio engine 3): AudigyLS surround
- Performing audio playback test...
  OK  OK  OK 
/dev/oss/audigyls0/pcm4 (audio engine 4): AudigyLS 5.1 output
- Skipping multi channel device

*** Scanning sound adapter #0 ***
/dev/oss/vmix0/pcm0 (audio engine 5): AudigyLS front (VMIX0)
- Skipping virtual device (use -V to force test)

*** Scanning sound adapter #0 ***
/dev/oss/vmix0/pcm1 (audio engine 6): AudigyLS front (VMIX0)
- Skipping virtual device (use -V to force test)

*** Scanning sound adapter #0 ***
/dev/oss/vmix0/pcm2 (audio engine 7): AudigyLS front (VMIX0)
- Skipping virtual device (use -V to force test)

*** Scanning sound adapter #0 ***
/dev/oss/vmix0/pcm3 (audio engine 8): AudigyLS front (VMIX0)
- Skipping virtual device (use -V to force test)

*** All tests completed OK ***


The problem is that I do not hear sound from speakers. The only thing I 
changed was to add oss_enable="YES" into my rc.conf file.


I have not changed any permissions, kernel is 6.2 Generic. I run the 
test logged as the root. What am I doing wrong? I have the same speakers 
and sound card (Audiology SE) working flawlessly while I used PC-BSD.  
The Gnome volume control is saying that I have no GStreamer plugins 
and/or  device  found. 


Thanks
Predrag Punosevac
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HP solved


Thanks to Kris from Tucson Unix Group I solved the HP printer problem.
I edited devfs.conf  as perm lpt0 0666. When I entered the CUPS manager 
this time I was offered the choice of the printer on the parallel 
port(previously only USB and Network). On the next screen I was offered 
the choice of 20 different drivers.
I picked hpjis (the same as HPLIP) and printed the test page. Great 
fully functional with colors.
I also printed ps file from the command line with lp command (previously 
I removed native lp command from /usr/bin so that CUPS can take over 
with its own commands).


On the more sober note I could not get hp-setup find the printer this 
time either. I think it is worth playing since this is one of ALL-IN-ONE 
devices and I read that HPLIP support scan option as well. These kind of 
parallel port scanners are not detected by Sane.


Thank,
Predrag Punosevac
Department of Mathematics
The University of Arizona


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problem compiling xfig

I was trying to use xfig to do some graphs but application would froze 
every time I tried to use the mouse.
After inspecting /var/db/pkg I realized I have xfig-devel version of 
program which is ALPHA version.

I cd /usr/ports/graphics/ xfig-devel  && make deinstall
I tried to compile xfig-3.2.5 version  after I did portsnap fetch && 
portsnap extract && portsnap update


I keep getting the message

[root@ /usr/ports/graphics/xfig]# make install clean
===>  Vulnerability check disabled, database not found
===>  Found saved configuration for xfig-3.2.5
===>  Extracting for xfig-3.2.5
=> MD5 Checksum mismatch for xfig.3.2.5.full.tar.gz.
=> SHA256 Checksum mismatch for xfig.3.2.5.full.tar.gz.
===>  Refetch for 1 more times files: xfig.3.2.5.full.tar.gz 
xfig.3.2.5.full.tar.gz

===>  Vulnerability check disabled, database not found
===>  Found saved configuration for xfig-3.2.5
=> xfig.3.2.5.full.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/.
=> Attempting to fetch from http://xfig.org/software/xfig/3.2.5/.
fetch: xfig.3.2.5.full.tar.gz: local modification time does not match remote
=> Attempting to fetch from ftp://www-epb.lbl.gov/xfig/.
fetch: xfig.3.2.5.full.tar.gz: local modification time does not match remote
=> Attempting to fetch from 
ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/.

fetch: xfig.3.2.5.full.tar.gz: local modification time does not match remote
=> Couldn't fetch it - please try to retrieve this
=> port manually into /usr/ports/distfiles/ and try again.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/xfig.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/xfig.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/xfig.

What am I doing wrong?

I am running FreeBSD 6.2 XOrg 7.2 Gnome 2.18 on the Generic kernel

I also tried pkg_add -r xfig-3.2.5 but I am getting message
[root@ /usr/ports/distfiles]# pkg_add xfig-3.2.5
pkg_add: can't stat package file 'xfig-3.2.5'
[root@ /usr/ports/distfiles]# pkg_add -r xfig-3.2.5
Error: FTP Unable to get 
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-6-stable/Latest/xfig-3.2.5.tbz: 
File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access)
pkg_add: unable to fetch 
'ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-6-stable/Latest/xfig-3.2.5.tbz' 
by URL




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Re: looking for an OS and wanting to know if this is the one.]



--- Begin Message ---

A good choice for the Windows user would be PC-BSD

http://pcbsd.org/?p=download14 

primarily due to the easy installation. I have quite a bit experience 
with it.
You would get nice KDE environment very similar to what you had in 
Windows. It is based on 6.2 Stable and XOrg 7.2.


Desktop BSD is less active project and with much smaller user base. The 
new release based on 6.2 Stable and XOrg 6.9 seems bit baggy.


Both systems are pre-configured FreeBSD with extra GUI tools. The only 
difference is packing system . PC-BSD  uses  windows like
pbi packing system as alternative to standard port system in FreeBSD 
while DesktopBSD utilizes GUI tools to assist novice user with

ports.

I would stay a way  from the  FreeBSD if your sole previous exposure to 
different Operating Systems was Windows unless you are really willing to 
sit and learn very intensively. This is primarily due to the fact that 
initial installation and PC-BSD like configuration

is actually the most difficult thing for the casual Desktop user of FreeBSD.
I hope this helps

Chad Perrin wrote:

On Tue, Aug 14, 2007 at 09:31:58AM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
  

Basically I need to know which of the OS from freebsd
will be the best for me to use?
  

freebsd is only one system, there is no "which" you can select from.



Maybe Brooks Lackey was referring to choices between:

  FreeBSD
  PC-BSD
  DesktopBSD

. . . of which one is FreeBSD, and two are modified FreeBSD.  On the
other hand, maybe the options Brooks Lackey had in mind were 6.2-STABLE,
6.2-RELEASE, and 7.0-CURRENT.  After all, if MS Windows (which is
apparently the start-point for this user) can have Ultimate, Home
Premium, Home Basic, Business, and Enterprise, I guess we can have our
-STABLE, -RELEASE, and -CURRENT.

  



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Re: problem compiling xfig


CyberLeo Kitsana wrote:

Predrag Punosevac wrote:
  

=> Attempting to fetch from http://xfig.org/software/xfig/3.2.5/.
fetch: xfig.3.2.5.full.tar.gz: local modification time does not match
remote



Is your clock set properly?

  
I thought it was until I read chapter 27 about clock drifting. The only 
time I was messing up with the clock was during the initial installation 
when it was sat to Arizona time. I will try to synchronize time 
following the book.

I hope that would help.


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Re: problem compiling xfig SOLVED


Manolis Kiagias wrote:

Predrag Punosevac wrote:
  

I was trying to use xfig to do some graphs but application would froze
every time I tried to use the mouse.
After inspecting /var/db/pkg I realized I have xfig-devel version of
program which is ALPHA version.
I cd /usr/ports/graphics/ xfig-devel  && make deinstall
I tried to compile xfig-3.2.5 version  after I did portsnap fetch &&
portsnap extract && portsnap update

I keep getting the message

[root@ /usr/ports/graphics/xfig]# make install clean
===>  Vulnerability check disabled, database not found
===>  Found saved configuration for xfig-3.2.5
===>  Extracting for xfig-3.2.5
=> MD5 Checksum mismatch for xfig.3.2.5.full.tar.gz.
=> SHA256 Checksum mismatch for xfig.3.2.5.full.tar.gz.
===>  Refetch for 1 more times files: xfig.3.2.5.full.tar.gz
xfig.3.2.5.full.tar.gz
===>  Vulnerability check disabled, database not found
===>  Found saved configuration for xfig-3.2.5
=> xfig.3.2.5.full.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/.
=> Attempting to fetch from http://xfig.org/software/xfig/3.2.5/.
fetch: xfig.3.2.5.full.tar.gz: local modification time does not match
remote
=> Attempting to fetch from ftp://www-epb.lbl.gov/xfig/.
fetch: xfig.3.2.5.full.tar.gz: local modification time does not match
remote
=> Attempting to fetch from
ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/.
fetch: xfig.3.2.5.full.tar.gz: local modification time does not match
remote
=> Couldn't fetch it - please try to retrieve this
=> port manually into /usr/ports/distfiles/ and try again.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/xfig.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/xfig.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/xfig.

What am I doing wrong?

I am running FreeBSD 6.2 XOrg 7.2 Gnome 2.18 on the Generic kernel

I also tried pkg_add -r xfig-3.2.5 but I am getting message
[root@ /usr/ports/distfiles]# pkg_add xfig-3.2.5
pkg_add: can't stat package file 'xfig-3.2.5'
[root@ /usr/ports/distfiles]# pkg_add -r xfig-3.2.5
Error: FTP Unable to get
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-6-stable/Latest/xfig-3.2.5.tbz:
File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access)
pkg_add: unable to fetch
'ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-6-stable/Latest/xfig-3.2.5.tbz'
by URL



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I can't tell you for sure about the message you are getting trying to
compile it from Ports, BUT this "local modification time does not match
remote" seems to me like there is something wrong with the date / time
settings on your machine. Have you checked this? Is your clock
synchronized with an NTP server?

For the pkg_add part, solution is simple:
either change PACKAGESITE  from Latest to All, e.g.

export PACKAGESITE=
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-6-stable/All/
(or setenv PACKAGESITE
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-6-stable/All/ if
you use csh)
and repeat your command:

pkg_add -r xfig-3.2.5

or simply, without changing your PACKAGESITE, do:

pkg_add -r xfig

This will get you the latest package. The "Latest" location in the
FreeBSD FTP server contains links to the latest build packages. You
don't add version numbers in this case.
In fact a quick look in the FTP site suggests the latest version is
xfig-3.2.5.a5_2

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Of course,
I am a moron. The clock is not synchronized with an NTP server. The 
clock drifting took me by surprise since this is relatively fresh

installation.
I used your quick solution with pkg_add to add xfig-3.2.5 to add the 
application.
Now xfig works perfectly. Good thing I had a problem with that unstable 
ALPHA new develop version of Xfig because now I know that I have to fix 
the clock.


Thanks Everybody
Predrag Punosevac

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Re: Looking for powerful machines that runs FreeBSD on it


Caio Figueiredo Abecia wrote:

I'm looking for a new pc.
I had a problem installing BSD (Free/Open/Net!) with the Dell Dimension C521n. 
(Free/Open BSD website tells me that it support the E521 that have the same 
configuration)
It don't recognize my dell usb keyboard and my SATA DVD Rom drive was not 
detected at all.

I call Dell support and I was complaining that when I saw that model on their 
website and I called to the vendors they said that this model would come 
without SO (Windows). That I'll be free to make my own choice on using any 
*unix SO.

Well.. now Dell will get my machine back and pay me back the amount that I 
payed.

Now I want to buy a powerful machine to run Development things such Java or 
Ruby on Rails on JBoss, running in some good db like Postgresql or MySql.
I don't want to get a new surprise to run only Windows on my machine!
(I already have 2gb ddr2 ram, I want a powerful modern pc to run Free or Open 
as my Desktop System)

Could you guys please help me ?

Thanks a lot all help is greatly appreciated 
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Why not built one from the parts. That way you would save bundle of 
money and have the computer which will run FreeBSD without a hitch. That 
is what I did.

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Re: Looking for powerful machines that runs FreeBSD on it


Caio Figueiredo Abecia wrote:

I'm not a expert in hardware..

I have some contacts that could help me to make a machine in parts.
That's what you mean ?

Sorry about the bad english.

Could you give me a tip ?
What configuration machine do you have maked in parts ?

I want to do what you did.
Have a machine running without problems Freebsd and maybe windows to 
run some things that I use in work.


Thanks in advance man

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To: "Caio Figueiredo Abecia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 2:41 PM
Subject: Re: Looking for powerful machines that runs FreeBSD on it



Caio Figueiredo Abecia wrote:

I'm looking for a new pc.
I had a problem installing BSD (Free/Open/Net!) with the Dell 
Dimension C521n. (Free/Open BSD website tells me that it support the 
E521 that have the same configuration)
It don't recognize my dell usb keyboard and my SATA DVD Rom drive 
was not detected at all.


I call Dell support and I was complaining that when I saw that model 
on their website and I called to the vendors they said that this 
model would come without SO (Windows). That I'll be free to make my 
own choice on using any *unix SO.


Well.. now Dell will get my machine back and pay me back the amount 
that I payed.


Now I want to buy a powerful machine to run Development things such 
Java or Ruby on Rails on JBoss, running in some good db like 
Postgresql or MySql.

I don't want to get a new surprise to run only Windows on my machine!
(I already have 2gb ddr2 ram, I want a powerful modern pc to run 
Free or Open as my Desktop System)


Could you guys please help me ?

Thanks a lot all help is greatly appreciated 
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Why not built one from the parts. That way you would save bundle of 
money and have the computer which will run FreeBSD without a hitch. 
That is what I did. 

I am not a native English speaker either:-)
Well, I live in states so there are quite a few reliable internet 
hardware vendors.  I like the best  newegg.com but you have

to check several to get best deals. There are also no
sales taxes on internet sales in states.

I wanted small but powerful workstation so I ordered Intel Core 2 Duo 
Processor E4300 it is in states around 120$
It has 775 connection pin so you obviously need a mother board 
supporting that pin.
Motherboard is by far you most important decision so you would carefully 
have to look the specifications

north bridge chip set
shout bridge chip set
sata controller chip set
lan controller chip set
on board audio
on board video


I could give you specification of my mother board but I think it would 
be better if you find one that you like it and than check
each of the above against FreeBSD hardware database (see hardware notice 
for this) . You should also google your mother board since
many people left they hardware specifications and how it behaves under 
FreeBSD.


Probably you could get a solid one for about
$120 even less. To get a server board you would probably need $250 at 
least.


You need Hard Drive obviously ~ $40 for about 200Gb
You already have RAM

Now that also can restrict the choice of your motherboard because you 
want one that supports RAM you already have.
Yours is probably DDR II 553 since it was bought for DeLL. I have DDR II 
667 (2 x 1Gb dual channel kit obviously much faster)which

I paid ~$50
You could even get DDR II 800 for couple extra bucks

DVD-RW ~ $30

You need a good power supply ~ $10
Case, PS/2 mouse and keyboard~$30

So I spent about $400 dollars but  my computer is no less than $1000 
retail and all my parts are premium quality.


The better the computer you want to build the more you would save.


There is also a list of FreeBSD hardware vendors on freebsd.org web 
site. They are usually more expensive but you would

get FreeBSD specific parts without any thinking


Get an old CRT monitor from junk yard for testing purposes you will get 
one LCD latter.






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Re: problem compiling xfig


cpghost wrote:

On Tue, Aug 14, 2007 at 12:52:53AM -0700, Predrag Punosevac wrote:
  
fetch: xfig.3.2.5.full.tar.gz: local modification time does not match 
remote


What am I doing wrong?



I'm getting this too from time to time; esp. when a fetch
stalled or was interrupted for whatever reason. The easiest
work-around / fix is to manually delete the distfile (just
rm /usr/ports/distfiles/xfig.3.2.5.full.tar.gz or whatever)
and try again.

Cheers,
-cpghost.

  

Thank you so much.
I already fixed the problem by
export PACKAGESITE=
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-6-stable/All/

and

pkg_add -r xfig-3.2.5


Now xfig works flawlessly. I also synchronized the clock as well but I 
think that was not a problem. I will have your solution

in mind if something like that happen again.
Thank you so much
Predrag Punosevac
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Re: Looking for powerful machines that runs FreeBSD on it


Garrett Cooper wrote:

Predrag Punosevac wrote:

Caio Figueiredo Abecia wrote:

I'm looking for a new pc.
I had a problem installing BSD (Free/Open/Net!) with the Dell 
Dimension C521n. (Free/Open BSD website tells me that it support the 
E521 that have the same configuration)
It don't recognize my dell usb keyboard and my SATA DVD Rom drive 
was not detected at all.


I call Dell support and I was complaining that when I saw that model 
on their website and I called to the vendors they said that this 
model would come without SO (Windows). That I'll be free to make my 
own choice on using any *unix SO.


Well.. now Dell will get my machine back and pay me back the amount 
that I payed.


Now I want to buy a powerful machine to run Development things such 
Java or Ruby on Rails on JBoss, running in some good db like 
Postgresql or MySql.

I don't want to get a new surprise to run only Windows on my machine!
(I already have 2gb ddr2 ram, I want a powerful modern pc to run 
Free or Open as my Desktop System)


Could you guys please help me ?

Thanks a lot all help is greatly appreciated 
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Why not built one from the parts. That way you would save bundle of 
money and have the computer which will run FreeBSD without a hitch. 
That is what I did.


Not everyone has this option, or the expertise. And some people like 
the warranty that comes from buying Dell products.

-Garrett
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If I could do it, anybody can:-) Retail parts DO have manufacture 
warranty for at least 1 year - 3 years depends on the component .
OMS and open box parts are significantly cheaper but usually come with a 
very limited warranty 1-3 months (basically Dead On Arrival warranty)
Buying from the Dell might be a great good deal if you need lots of low 
grade desktop computers which will be heavily abused. (like the one we 
use in public libraries)


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