Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-07-01 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Shaun, The current Star Wars roll playing game sourcebooks are published by Wizards of the Coast under license. IE George Lucas has nothing to do with it. We are talking about two different companies. At most Lucasfilm's involvement with Wizards is handling licensing for the roll playing

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-07-01 Thread shaun everiss
Aah ok thanks for clearing it up. well in that case you should ask wizzard, you can only ask. and since its not lucus they probably won't care that much if you put it all out there though asking first would be good. at least you won't have to pay as much to lucus we hope At 09:43 p.m.

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-30 Thread shaun everiss
Hmmm well you could always ask lucus. If you do convert them I'd like them in darkgrew format or simular so I could play them or some sort of rpg like thingy in html or whatever. At 03:25 p.m. 14/06/2012 -0400, you wrote: Hi all, I was wondering if anyone knows where we stand legally on

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-30 Thread shaun everiss
well I have a daisy player here. At 12:35 p.m. 14/06/2012 -0700, you wrote: Hi Thomas, I'm no lawyer, but as far as I understand these things, you are essentially correct. Daisy is one possible format, as is .brf braille. Depending on the method you use to convert these books to Daisy, users

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-22 Thread Christopher Bartlett
I tried pdf2txt on some files that contain images of books from a certain, ahem well-known fantasy role playing game and I was extremely dissatisfied by the accuracy of the results. I believe that the formatting of game books poses a particular challenge to ocr programs. Christopher

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-22 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Christopher, Yes, the general formatting of sourcebooks and guides is a problem for OCR programs. I've noticed when trying to scan the Star Wars sourcebooks both Omnipage 17 and Openbook 9 have problems scanning certain sections of the books. Particularly the tables of stats etc. They

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-22 Thread Jacob Kruger
Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 7:10 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books I tried pdf2txt on some files that contain images of books from a certain, ahem well-known fantasy role playing game and I was extremely dissatisfied by the accuracy

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-22 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Jacob, Any idea which one? There are some good open source OCR engines and there are some that frankly suck.I'm just curious to know which one pdf2txt uses. Cheers! On 6/22/12, Jacob Kruger ja...@blindza.co.za wrote: Problem with PDF2TXT is it makes use of an open source OCR engine, so not

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-22 Thread Jacob Kruger
Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 11:16 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books Hi Jacob, Any idea which one? There are some good open source OCR engines and there are some that frankly suck.I'm just curious to know which one pdf2txt uses. Cheers

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-21 Thread Jacob Kruger
...' - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 7:55 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books Well Jacob, Orphius seems to get it right, pronouncing your last name with a hard g, however realspeak daniel

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-21 Thread dark
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 7:00 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books Think Freddy was more like Krueger, or Kreuger, but, nope, am not directly related...LOL! OTOH, on some other mailing lists, I pretty much always get

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-21 Thread Jacob Kruger
@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 9:33 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books Well if the fount of all wisdom is to be believed, it's k r u e! g e r, though if you've collect knives as a hobby there might be a closer resemblance than you think :D. The party does sound fun

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-21 Thread dark
the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Jacob Kruger ja...@blindza.co.za To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 10:22 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books According to some heritage sites, there are like 2 primary possible

[Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-21 Thread Eleanor Robinson
One comment on the different spellings on both sides of the Atlantic - as the creator of the dictionary for all the 7-128 word games, I have tried to include both spellings as correct. If you find words that are not included - let me know and I'll make sure they are in there. Eleanor

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-21 Thread dark
at uni at the time either. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Ben gamehead...@aol.co.uk To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 7:46 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books Its just such a shame that I can't get

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-21 Thread Paul Lemm
...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: 20 June 2012 23:04 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books Hi Ben. As I said, unless your living in a really tiny village, I doubt that is true. I can't recall how old you are exactly

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-21 Thread Christopher Bartlett
I will second Dark's recommendation of any Tim Powers you can get your hands on. My personal favorite it The Stress of Her Regard, combining Mary and Percy Shelley, Venice, Lamia and all manner of other wonderful chaos, maiming and an odd romance. Christopher Bartlett --- Gamers

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-21 Thread Christopher Bartlett
The OCR features in both JFW and NVDA aren't meant for large document conversion but for reading image controls that are labeled in some way the screen reader can't pick up. I am in fact in need of a good solution for OCR-in a bunch of image pdf files myself. If anyone has a good solution for

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-21 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Paul, That wouldn't work for a number of reasons. First, I'm not a Jaws user, and haven't been for years. Not since switching to Linux full time at any rate. My Jaws SMA ran out a long time ago, and I have absolutely no desire to renew it. These days I primarily use NVDA when I use Windows,

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-21 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi guys, Can we steer this conversation back on topic? I know we have gotten off topic with religion and now the Tim Powers books, but we really should get back on topic or close it. :D Thanks. On 6/21/12, Christopher Bartlett themusicalbre...@gmail.com wrote: I will second Dark's

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-21 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Chris, HI don't really know what is available for Windows users in that regard. What I've done on Linux to resolve that problem in the past is run the pdf document through a program called PDF To HTML which converts any text in the document to html, and if there is no text it will

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-21 Thread Jacob Kruger
, June 21, 2012 9:51 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books The OCR features in both JFW and NVDA aren't meant for large document conversion but for reading image controls that are labeled in some way the screen reader can't pick up. I am in fact in need of a good solution

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-21 Thread Paul Lemm
Sent: 21 June 2012 21:01 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books Hi Paul, That wouldn't work for a number of reasons. First, I'm not a Jaws user, and haven't been for years. Not since switching to Linux full time at any rate. My Jaws SMA ran out a long time

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-21 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Paul, No problem. That is an easy mistake to make. You are hardly the first person who thought the new OCR feature in Jaws could scan entire documents and save them or something like that. However, the actual use of that feature is merely to attempt to scan buttons, menus, or anything else

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-21 Thread dark
themusicalbre...@gmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 8:46 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books I will second Dark's recommendation of any Tim Powers you can get your hands on. My personal favorite it The Stress of Her

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-20 Thread Dakotah Rickard
Oh yes. I am quite familiar with bio-psychology. Apparently, according to that one, thoughts and consciousness are merely the brains way of letting the world know that it is working. There is some sort of study that shows how thoughts can come at least 300 milliseconds after actions. My personal

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-20 Thread dark
Hi decota. your right there, people seem to love opposing viewpoints. I'm also always amused at the way people love explaining other people's actions with relation to something that has nothing to do with what motives they say! they're following, whether it's freudian unconsciousness, bio

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-20 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dakotah, The problem I have with such people is usually their extreme views are largely based on inaccurate interpretations of the scriptures and aren't based on common sense. For example, if someone is taking a math test and the correct answer happens to be 666 or$6.66 or anything else

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-20 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dakotah, Well, the problem is in outlook. The reason certain people believe science and religion can't coexist is because there are extremists on both sides of the argument. There are biologists who insist that Evolution is the one and only explanation for life on our planet. We might

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-20 Thread dark
Hi Just to give a rather amusing postscript to this conversation, based on something else we've discussed on list before, the differences betwene Uk and american English, there's a hilarious scene in the Anubis gates by Tim powers that revolves around the number of the beast, in which Brendon

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-20 Thread Ben
] On Behalf Of Dakotah Rickard Sent: 20 June 2012 05:05 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books The difficult thing for roleplayers compared to others is that we, if we have even a basic imagination, can come up with and play in a world with a vastly

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-20 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dakotah, Well, my thinking on this is simple. The people who don't roll play probably don't have a very good imagination so don't realise how fun it can be just spending an hour or two sitting around a table pretending that they are someone else living in a totally different world. Obviously,

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-20 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Che, Ah, apparently not. I've been a fan of Star Wars since I was able to walk and talk but for some reason I haven't been able to use the force yet. Apparently all this roll playing isn't doing me any good either. :D Cheers! On 6/18/12, Che blindadrenal...@gmail.com wrote: Wait, you

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-20 Thread bpeterson2000
Reminds me of all the times my brother would get together with friends to play DD. Life, don't talk to me about life. -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 12:56 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books Hi

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-20 Thread Dakotah Rickard
Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 12:56 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books Hi Dakotah, Well, my thinking on this is simple. The people who don't roll play probably don't have a very good imagination so don't realise

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-20 Thread Dakotah Rickard
Nothing like a bit of culture clash, but i suggest that we Americans learn U.K. English, as most of the world is taught that, with the o-u in colour and everything, silly Brits. Hee hee. Signed: Dakotah Rickard On 6/20/12, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Just to give a rather amusing postscript

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-20 Thread Jacob Kruger
- From: Dakotah Rickard dakotah.rick...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 1:54 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books Nothing like a bit of culture clash, but i suggest that we Americans learn U.K. English, as most

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-20 Thread dark
Well Jacob, Orphius seems to get it right, pronouncing your last name with a hard g, however realspeak daniel doesn't. I know sinse obviously Freddy from nightmare on elmstreet has the same last name, so I've had occasion to write it before, --- hope your not related, :D. Beware the grue!

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-19 Thread Jim Kitchen
Hi Thomas, A former neighbor insisted that she made angel eggs for the pot luck not deviled eggs. She may have even left off the red paprika. I say former neighbor as she was evicted for constantly arguing with another neighbor over religious believes. Both Christians, but different

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-19 Thread dark
: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books Hi Thomas, A former neighbor insisted that she made angel eggs for the pot luck not deviled eggs. She may have even left off the red paprika. I say former neighbor as she was evicted for constantly arguing with another neighbor over religious believes

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-19 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark, Yeah, let's not go there. Besides being completely off topic for the list if we start down the road of debating religion and ethics we will be here until doom's day discussing it. Like it or not everyone has an an opinion, right or wrong, and its amazing how drastically different those

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-19 Thread Dakotah Rickard
The difficult thing for roleplayers compared to others is that we, if we have even a basic imagination, can come up with and play in a world with a vastly different religion than we believe in. I've seen devoutly faithful of several religions play happily in a world with god upon god upon god

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-19 Thread Dakotah Rickard
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 10:23 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books Hi Thomas, A former neighbor insisted that she made angel eggs for the pot luck not deviled eggs. She may have even left off the red paprika. I say former neighbor as she was evicted

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-19 Thread dark
Hi decota. One interesting thing, is that the more you learn about science and the scientific process, the more you realize that it is just as much a matter of supposition, speculation and opinion based on pre existing conceptions of the world as any other belief system, and people like

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-18 Thread Ben
? -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: 17 June 2012 22:21 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books Hi tom. the only problem is a lot of people seem to think that rolling the dice

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-18 Thread dark
Hi Tom. Well I've never really taken that brand of christian seriously anyway, sinse the amount of things they say are some how connected with satan, from the internet to star trek to people who are gay is just ridiculous, so I wouldn't particularly pay that much attention to their

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-18 Thread dark
Hi Tom. Well during online games, muds etc is a little different, sinse quite often the people I've seen called captain kirk, frodo, doctor who etc won't actually behave like their characters, they just chose the name because it was one they liked, and themed their gear around it. indeed

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-18 Thread dark
, that is why I don't use torrents myself, just in case. Beware the Grue! dArk. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 3:40 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books Hi Paul

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-18 Thread dark
Hi jacob. That I can understand, though to be honest when I was in those situations myself, what people mostly did was create a basic character concept, rather than a literal npc. So for instance you would say be given a dwarven mercinary chracter sheet, with your various items on it, and

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-18 Thread dark
Hi Ben. The problem is, you have to physically rp offline, at a given time with a given group of people. I'm obviously in the north of england and in the middle of a game, so it wouldn't really be convenient to meet up to do rp. i suggest checking any local shops such as forbidden planet in

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-18 Thread Ben
with you, in person, if possible. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: 18 June 2012 08:39 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books Hi Ben. The problem is, you have to physically

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-18 Thread Jacob Kruger
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 9:33 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books Hi jacob. That I can understand, though to be honest when I was in those situations myself, what people mostly did was create a basic character concept, rather

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-18 Thread dark
Hi Ben. Forbidden planet isn't in london. It's a chain of shops devoted to rp, science fiction and various other things. There's one I've seen in nottingham, one in newcastle, and even one in skegness, also forbidden planet is only one example of such a shop sinse there are various ones

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-18 Thread dark
Hay Jacob, I do know what you mean about difficulties introducing people to a campaigne mid way through. My mutants and masterminds game has gone on for over three years now, there is a huge amount of plot and backstory, and it'd be pretty hard for anyone to join in mid way through, though at

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-18 Thread Jacob Kruger
Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 1:45 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books Hay Jacob, I do know what you mean about difficulties introducing people to a campaigne mid way through. My mutants

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-18 Thread dark
Sounds good. I've noticed different gms have different styles too. The gm of our mutants game makes great npcs and an interconnecting plot, however every single combat with him is like a huge, epic fight to the death, in fact none of his supervillains ever have minians, not unless

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-18 Thread Jacob Kruger
@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 3:02 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books Sounds good. I've noticed different gms have different styles too. The gm of our mutants game makes great npcs and an interconnecting plot, however every single combat with him is like a huge

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-18 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark, Lol! Now, that is a couple of nerds for sure. Generally I keep my game life and real life separate. :D Cheers! On 6/18/12, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hay Jacob, I do know what you mean about difficulties introducing people to a campaigne mid way through. My mutants and masterminds

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-18 Thread Jacob Kruger
- From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 7:43 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books Hi Jacob, FYI. Ichabod was the name of the main character in the Legend of Sleepy Hollow

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-18 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark, Really? You mean if you have BitComet, BitStorm, Utorrent, or any other torrent software on your system you can be prosecuted in the United Kingdom? That's total madness. Apparently, the people who make your laws don't realize how much legal stuff is available through torrents today.

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-18 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark, I suppose its just all how a person approaches the game. As I said for myself weather I am playing Srith, Core Exiles, or a mud like Alter Aeon I still try to roll play. Probably because since moving to Millersburg I haven't had any group to roll play with so I do it virtually through

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-18 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark, Oh, I definitely don't take those sorts of religious people seriously. Mainly because its usually a lot of misinformed and extremely ridiculous suppositions based on stereotypes. I know people like that, my in-laws are some of them, and their opinions are usually groundless. Especially,

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-18 Thread Che
Wait, you mean we can't gain access to super cool satanic powers by running role playing games? looks like my grandma was right, games are a big waste of time after all. and i was so looking forward to going toe to toe with jimmy swaggart wielding my killer inferno fireball spell up against

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-18 Thread dark
Hi Tom. I could ask my brother for the full details, but As far as I know it is the torrenting process that is specifically illegal, not the gpl license. I've freely downloaded lots of stuff from pendent productions, darker projects, podiobooks etc, and programs like 7zip, chipamp etc, and

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-18 Thread dark
Hi Tom. well those sorts of christians are nuts, and I agree they give reasonable christians a bad name the same way extreme muslims give the entirity of islam a bad name (personally I don't like either group). When I was in colidge a friend of mine always used to introduce me to such

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-18 Thread Che
Hi dark, Your statement about the use of bit torrenting software being illegal in and of itself was startling to me. That would be like outlawing the use of knives because some folks use them to stab their fellow bipeds. I did a bit of research, and I can't find that this is the case

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-18 Thread dark
Hi Che. I was thinking specifically of some legal cases I've heard of where people have been prosecuted for using bit torrent, but as I said I'm not up on the current laws so it could've been the copywrite materials and the selling of those materials illegally, not necessarily the program, I

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-17 Thread dark
Hi tom. That is a good example of what I mean, and indeed often in our mutants game the gm has great fun taking advantage of our mistakes, and indeed has enemies who incorporate this into their tactics. For example, on one occasion we were fighting the main villain of the campaigne, an evil

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-17 Thread dark
To be honest I'd see the diceas simply a way of limiting your characters' abilities, and also adding an element of chance into the game. To take tom's glider example. If your character was a barbarian from the frozen wastes, it might be that she doesn't really have the manual skill or indeed

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-17 Thread Paul Lemm
-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: 17 June 2012 02:26 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books Hi Paul, Exactly. Triditional computer games are fixed to a certain story line,are often fixed to specific characters, and is only as flexable

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-17 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark, Well, I sometimes like playing a cannon character in tabletop RPG, and other times I like striking out on my own and creating my own unique character. That is perhaps one of the best features of roll playing games. You have the freedom to use an existing character or you can totally

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-17 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark, Right. The dice are basically there to enhance the plot of the game and to put in some realistic skill checks so your character can and can't do certain things. Even the most powerful characters have to have limitations and/or run into a bit of bad luck sometimes. The dice can help

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-17 Thread Dakotah Rickard
This is a huge topic, and I'm skipping a lot of messages. I want to admit that and apologize. First, people are greedy, and the more they get, the greedier they get. It's a version of the old saying: Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. That's why these distributors make money,

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-17 Thread Paul Lemm
...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Dakotah Rickard Sent: 17 June 2012 20:03 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books This is a huge topic, and I'm skipping a lot of messages. I want to admit that and apologize. First, people are greedy, and the more they get

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-17 Thread dark
Hi Tom. Fair enough, though to be honest I think I would always create my own character rather than play an existing one. my backstory, skills etc might be detailed or complex depending upon the time we had, but generally I'd much rather go with something unique where I can defign the

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-17 Thread dark
Hi tom. the only problem is a lot of people seem to think that rolling the dice for stats is all! an rpg is, which is pretty pathetic. I've played with players like that before, and they're not fun, also they give rpg gamers something of a bad reputation. There's actually a book on

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-17 Thread dark
Hi Decota. I'm afraid I'd disagree completely on tabletop rp being anything like a mud. In a mud for instance, you are one character in a very large world, where as in a good tabletop game, the players, usually 2-8, are the heroes. The plot, npcs and the like revolve around them,

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-17 Thread dark
Hi Paul. That's possible as a disclaimer, though my personal view is that if a company doesn't provide! an accessible copy, they've got no right to my respect or my patronage. I've spent 20 years trying to legitimately obtain things within the workings of the Uk copywrite laws, going

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-17 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark, Well, I know all about those sorts of stereotypes. Unfortunately, they've been going around since the 1970's when Dungeons and Dragons first came onto the scene. A lot of the people who don't roll play really don't understand it and are gullible enough to believe anything anyone tells

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-17 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark, HmmmThat's interesting. Certainly there are advantages to creating your own character from scratch, even for the short term, but as I said for some people they want to pretend or roll play someone they really like from an existing game universe. It all comes down to personal choice

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-17 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Paul, Actually, the torrent sites really aren't getting around the law with those disclaimers any longer. Thanks to the SOPA and PIPA acts the film and music industry tried to push through Congress a lot of U.S. internet service providers are going to be putting software in place to track

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-17 Thread Jacob Kruger
his body, but not his spirit...' - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 4:29 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books Hi Dark, HmmmThat's interesting. Certainly

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-16 Thread dark
Hi nancy. Wow! which publishers are these? In the past, all the publishers I've contacted have either utterly ignored me, or setn me a short refusal like wizards of the coast, which is one reason I'm now so sure that they are scumbags! :D. Perhaps it would be good to know which these people

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-16 Thread Loravara
. Nothing to be done about that except get their books in other ways. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 12:15 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-16 Thread dark
with the publishers? all the best, Dark. - Original Message - From: Loravara lorav...@comcast.net To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 12:43 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books Hi Dark, I've had good luck with Steve Jackson

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-16 Thread Paul Lemm
lots about what and how you play. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf of Thomas Ward Sent: 16 June 2012 02:05 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books Hi Paul, Well

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-16 Thread dark
Hi Paul. Well not everything! is decided by dice, indeed the better games I've played are the ones were dice are a guide rather than being the strict rules. It's odd though, I don't enjoy in character rp in online games, but I love doing it off line with a human gm. I think it's because a

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-16 Thread Paul Lemm
...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: 16 June 2012 14:13 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books Hi Paul. Well not everything! is decided by dice, indeed the better games I've played are the ones were dice are a guide rather than being the strict rules

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-16 Thread Thomas Ward
...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 4:00 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books Hi Al, I'm talking about the newer d20 Star Wars source books and campaign guides. As you

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-16 Thread Thomas Ward
. For a very interesting game. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: 16 June 2012 14:13 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books Hi Paul. Well not everything

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-16 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark, Definitely agree with that. A human gm, if he or she is good, will adapt the plot to fit the situation far more than any computer can. Often times battles is simply trying to out think the gamemaster who is playing the villains and you the heroes. For example, I remember one summer

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-16 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Paul, Well, like Dark said not everything is decided through dice. It helps randomize things, decide things such as skill checks,but for the most part the gamemaster holds sway over the story, battles, and other game mechanics based on his understanding of the game and the characters you are

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-15 Thread Ben
-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: 15 June 2012 03:25 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books Hi Tom. that is true, and the way I see things going. also, when discussing the issue of piracy with my mum, one thing she pointed out

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-15 Thread Michael Gauler
Hi Thomas, That might be true for books or music. What I never got was the why all things had to be limited. For example, one of my friends bought the complete Outlander Series (at that time six books) as an audiobook series on a few MP3 CDs. They didn't use DVD discs at that time except for

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-15 Thread Dennis Towne
Michael, Money only makes sense when something is scarce. Traditionally, it's been possible to make music and books scarce by limiting how many copies were printed, because the music and writing was attached to a physical object. Copyright was put in place to limit who could make extra copies.

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-15 Thread Paul Lemm
: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books Hi Dark, Well, I think we get some of that here, but just not as bad. While it is legal to redistribute copies of the RPG source books and campaign guides in an accessible format I think the reason the major agencies like APH, Learning Alley, and NLS

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-15 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Michael, The answer to both of your questions is simply money. Companies limit the number of items in order to force prices up by controlling the supply and raising the demand for those products. If they didn't do it that way eventually they would have a large supply of products but little to

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-15 Thread dark
] Redistributing RPG Source Books Hi Michael, The answer to both of your questions is simply money. Companies limit the number of items in order to force prices up by controlling the supply and raising the demand for those products. If they didn't do it that way eventually they would have a large

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-15 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Paul, I've already checked. While there are scanned copies of the sourcebooks out there on The Pirate Bay and other torrent sites they aren't at all screen reader accessible. What I mean by that is a lot of people just scan the sourcebooks, save the individual pages as jpg images, and then

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-15 Thread john
-0400 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books Hi Paul, I've already checked. While there are scanned copies of the sourcebooks out there on The Pirate Bay and other torrent sites they aren't at all screen reader accessible. What I mean by that is a lot of people just scan

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