Re: [Audyssey] ryu ga kotoku: Kensan
well I don't have anyone to play this but full playthroughs and other things with you playing in it in some zip would rock. Don't have the cash. on that note it looks like at some point soon I'm gona be cutting back on broadband due to speed issues. I'll still be active but it does mean some stuff may have to go or get reduced. hopefully thats not much. At 06:12 p.m. 3/04/2010, you wrote: Man, I really am starting to love this series. Everyone up here in North America would know it as Yakuza, as would the people over in Europe. This game's a spinoff, and is based around the legendary Musashi Miyamoto. So, this game takes out fists, and switches the focuss to swords. I've always loved this series, for the main story and for the cinematics as well as the actin and sounds. Kensan is only available in Japan, but I would say it's worth importing if you have someone around to play with you. There's a great guide on gamefaqs that can get you through it. Here are two videos I converted and uploaded. http://www.sendspace.com/file/vqesee http://www.sendspace.com/file/egaouo The first video involves Musashi and a friend, Majima, waiting at a temple for an army. However, their commander, called Marume-san in the video, shws up and tells them that they killed an heir of the Tokugawa family. Since you didn't know, you're stunned. However, you ge told that the army serves that family, and since you killed the heir, Marume wants revenge and sees it as his duty to kil you both and Majima. So the fight in the video is between Musashi, Majima and the rest of the troops plus Marume. Keep in mind that this isn't technically a beat em up. This is an action rpg, and there's a lot of exploration aside from just killing and killing. But the action is a big part. Anyhow, after that fight, Musashi tries to flee but is blocked by a rival, Koujirou sasaki. Marume calls him kojiro-sama. Kojiro is an old rival of Musashi's, and recognizes him when Musashi puls two swords at once. Historically, Musashi is the founder of the two-sword style. The second fight is a battle tutorial on how to use the style in the game. That's where the second video starts. The second vide picks up where you left off. Musashi stabs a trooper in the chest, and him and Kojiro banter brefly. I don't know that much Japanese, I was lucky to pick up as much as I did in the first video. Anyhow, Kojirou ad Musashi duel and separate. Then they clash again. The second brake, Majima tries to protect Musashi but gets stabbed in the eye. Then they clash one more time. Musashi breaks away and tells Marue that the two of them will take his advice and survive. Then he grabs the injured Majima and leaps ff the cliff edge and rns off. That's pretty muc hthe two videos. I love the cinematics in this game... and the duel between Musashi and Kojiro sounds epic. Opinions are always welcome. Hope that was enough of a commentary to describe what's going on. And sorry about the typing... my laptop keyboard sucks. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Fwd: [BPC Discussion] TDV Patch
Hi. I appologise in advance if this appears on this list twice. The issue with the game switching soundcards settings round should be fixed. Was not convinced by one person on here saying it was my system. so sent a message at support, anyway its fixed, trying to varify about the learnsounds issue to but we will just have to see. X-Apparently-To: shau...@xtra.co.nz via 124.108.96.101; Sat, 03 Apr 2010 13:23:07 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [66.232.105.78] Authentication-Results: mta102.tnz.mail.aue.yahoo.com from=bpcprograms.com; domainkeys=fail (bad syntax); from=gmail.com; dkim=permerror (bad sig) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:reply-to:from:to :subject:date:mime-version:content-type:x-priority:x-msmail-priority :importance:x-mailer:x-mimeole; bh=mMGQiC7dJYKqMoLYvcyiceMaTGsDj8Pkv5D7kRQd630=; b=XcqIwISBkY4GiksVGNBGsFSw8A62mtXw2rR96wgRT0I5udHb2OiP9JWMfXML6CTZlR nGoJFhynlP1KjddO5EEb6O5Mzxy5N3w3Cz/uy0QMyBbRQsWIFTUmtIQ7R4IfFz0ABgII hVFbBkCzba0/BFSQRBscVWKCHtyvnWt1uBK7Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:reply-to:from:to:subject:date:mime-version:content-type :x-priority:x-msmail-priority:importance:x-mailer:x-mimeole; b=T+pOD0OCiTYvBLECMBV8XWVC+oHm3t62KxviApha3UpD4HR0N04/q+ae8TVxqyucnk aCfz3/37hJ22sbCoTsL5Vi9erMReQN5cNxkp6KyUbyW0maSeRShhuOApxVVQbh1GIAHr egUkkA3IX5fuK3XWdMD4bULcszXPuRtmMPzMs= From: Munawar Bijani munaw...@gmail.com To: discuss...@bpcprograms.com Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 16:22:39 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.12.cp3 Subject: [BPC Discussion] TDV Patch X-BeenThere: discuss...@bpcprograms.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12.cp3 Reply-To: discuss...@bpcprograms.com List-Id: discussion_bpcprograms.com.bpcprograms.com List-Unsubscribe: http://bpcprograms.com/mailman/options/discussion_bpcprograms.com, mailto:discussion-requ...@bpcprograms.com?subject=unsubscribe List-Archive: http://bpcprograms.com/pipermail/discussion_bpcprograms.com List-Post: mailto:discuss...@bpcprograms.com List-Help: mailto:discussion-requ...@bpcprograms.com?subject=help List-Subscribe: http://bpcprograms.com/mailman/listinfo/discussion_bpcprograms.com, mailto:discussion-requ...@bpcprograms.com?subject=subscribe Sender: discussion-boun...@bpcprograms.com X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - coffman.gwhosting.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - xtra.co.nz X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - bpcprograms.com Hi Everyone, A patch has been released for TDV that corrects an issue where the game would try to change settings in Control Panel concerning speaker configuration. You can download it at http://www.bpcprograms.com/programs/patches/. Please keep the full version of TDV installed when installing this patch. If you find that sounds are coming out of multiple sound cards (if you have more than one installed) or if TDV is trying to change your settings to 7.1, please download this patch. Munawar A. Bijani blog: http://munawar0009.blogspot.com http://www.bpcprograms.com Follow on Twitter for blog updates: http://www.twitter.com/munawar0009 ___ Discussion mailing list discuss...@bpcprograms.com http://bpcprograms.com/mailman/listinfo/discussion_bpcprograms.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] trouble with entombed
well on each floor or 2 I sell my stuff off at the store most of it is worth something. one feature I'd like is to have some way of estimating what something is worth somehow. At 12:20 p.m. 4/04/2010, you wrote: i have notice that as i get further in the game it takes longer to load my save game and take longer to come out of a battle when the fight is over and it take longer to save a game. does anyone know what i can do about this problem or is this normal. my other games don't do this. -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] tv manager 2?
hi all, has anyone tried the new tv manager 2 game from neil bower? How good is it? william lomas follow me on twitter: billbow_baggins --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] multiple player game
Hi Thomas, Yes, thanks, I am aware of what is involved in AI for games. As I said though, I am not into it as much as other types of game coding. But so there you go, create and sell a basketball game. Heck once you or someone does the AI for basketball I bet that it could fairly easily be converted for use for a hockey, soccer and goalball game. BFN - Original Message - Hi Jim, Oh, I guess I didn't really mean easy, but possible might have been a better word for it. From a design aspect it would be easy. It is programming it that is complicated/hard as you have to give all of the player semi-intelligent AI to know when to block, defend, steell the ball, whatever. To make realistic decisions based on certain situations in the game. As far as AI goes it can be a pretty advanced field of study in and of itself. I've read a few books on the subject, and there is still stuff I don't understand clearly. However, building a simple AI really just requires thinking about what possible situations the game character will face during your game, and creating a list of conditions with specific responses attached. For example, in STFC I had to build a realistic combat intelligent fleet of enemy ships. As a result it would constantly check the status of the ship, the enemy, and take a certain type of action based on statistical data. If the Federation ship was weak, and nearly beaten the enemy ship might not retreat in the hope of making a solid kill. However, if that ship was heavily damaged and the Federation ship was still in combat ready status run away and live to fight another day. Of course, it was a bit more complicated than that, but this is a simple example of taking one particular combat situation, and then performing some intelligent action based on the current situation. Of course, if you want to give certain ships or a commander a more unique AI then things get much trickier. However, all and all the basic principle applies to a game like basketball. You can give each computer driven player an AI with a list of rules how to play the game in what situation it should pass the ball, dribble it, try and make a shot, etc. I don't think anyone is very good at programming AI driven game players like this at first, but it is something you can learn with practice. Sometimes it just takes a little experimentation. Cheers! --- Jim What part of NO did you not understand? j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] multiple player game
Hi Phil, Yes, the Cavs are Cleveland's best sports team. Ironic then since I am not a fan and never listen to basketball, soccer or hockey. Give me NASCAR, football or baseball. And of course those are the games I have created, because I am into them. Not much fun to create games that one is not into. At least that is the way that it is for me. I play every game that I have ever created. That is also why I do not create games where there are puzzles to solve to play and finish the game. I mean what fun would that be for me to play? Guess that is pretty selfish of me to only create games that I am into and want to play. But that's the way that I am. BFN Jim I wondered why the baseball was getting bigger. Then it hit me. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] AI - Re: multiple player game
Hi Charles, Yes! Definitely! Some of the best brains in the world have worked years and years on chess engines. That is because a computer is so totally and completely mindless. All intelligence must be coded into the artificial intelligence of a game, chess engine or what ever. So that would be like coding in every thought that you have ever had for playing a game of chess. And it is the same thing for all coding of artificial intelligence. Of course allot of games are far less complicated than chess, but still... BFN Jim Once a king always a king but once a knights enough j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] not working
hi all, I enabled blind mode on tv manager 2 yet i can't een get past the select scenario screen william lomas follow me on twitter: billbow_baggins --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] AI - Re: multiple player game
Hi Charles, Well, the type of simple AI I described to Jim Kitchen wouldn't really be appropriate for a chess game. there are far too many factors involved to make it feasable to write the AI that way. There are however more complex types of AI out there which could and should be used in that situation. The only reason I didn't mention them before is because most of the people out there probably don't have the background to discuss fuzzy logic and other complex AI systems like that. However, even so Chess is a very complex game to play. it is even harder to program as it requires a lot of strategy and thinking ahead a few moves. That's why computers are almost written using a straight forward brute force attack because it is the least complex strategy to program. A human player can be a lot more cunning, daring, risky, etc where no computer Chess program ever quite matches human skill and cunning. It usually has the same motive of operation. If you can figure out its mode of operation, game plan, you can counter it pretty easily. Problem is most people don't know enough how computers think to actually beat the computer at its own game. Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] AI - Re: multiple player game
well, how about you tell us how computers think? now that is a good one, and maybe we all could learn something. press to test Release to detonate - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 5:28 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] AI - Re: multiple player game Hi Charles, Well, the type of simple AI I described to Jim Kitchen wouldn't really be appropriate for a chess game. there are far too many factors involved to make it feasable to write the AI that way. There are however more complex types of AI out there which could and should be used in that situation. The only reason I didn't mention them before is because most of the people out there probably don't have the background to discuss fuzzy logic and other complex AI systems like that. However, even so Chess is a very complex game to play. it is even harder to program as it requires a lot of strategy and thinking ahead a few moves. That's why computers are almost written using a straight forward brute force attack because it is the least complex strategy to program. A human player can be a lot more cunning, daring, risky, etc where no computer Chess program ever quite matches human skill and cunning. It usually has the same motive of operation. If you can figure out its mode of operation, game plan, you can counter it pretty easily. Problem is most people don't know enough how computers think to actually beat the computer at its own game. Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] trouble with 3d volocity
Poste the error and we should find a silution for it. Do you love audio games? Would you like to chat about BGt a game creation tool for the blind? Do you need any tips or tricks on any sought of game? Do you need to ask questions about buying a game and help for the game? Well, this is the right place for you then! If you would like to joyn, just send a blank email to. audiogamesfortheblind+subscr...@googlegroups.com With the subject subscribe in the subject line. Contact infermation. email: muhamme...@googlemail.com msn: muhammed123...@hotmail.co.uk Skype: muhammed.deniz Klango username. muhammed - Original Message - From: joe quinn jdawg1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 3:10 AM Subject: [Audyssey] trouble with 3d volocity I've posed this before, but never got a response. every time i try installing, i get a time-out message... why is this? it seems to be going rather well at first, but then dies at about 57995 kb or so... help? __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4997 (20100403) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] AI - Re: multiple player game
In the mid-1990's, IBM developed a chess program call Deep Blue. It beat the world champion chess player Garry Kasparov in a six game match with two winds for Deep Blue, one for Garry, and three draws. There was a bit of a cloud over the incident since Garry accused IBM of cheating and challenged Deep Blue to a rematch. IBM quickly refused and dismantled Deep Blue. Some people feel that this was an admittal of IBM of their cheating, but my personal feelings are that computers are not nearly as creative and flexible as humans, and the chess master would probably have beaten Deep Blue handily if they had met again. IBM had met its goals of creating a chess program which beat the best human chess player in the world, and it could only tarnish its victory by having a rematch. Regards, David Greenwood davidgreenw...@gmagames.com http://www.GMAGames.com - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard woofer...@sbcglobal.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 12:10 AM Subject: [Audyssey] AI - Re: multiple player game If I follow what you're saying, a chess program would be a real bear to write from scratch, wouldn't it, given all of the possibilities that come up when it is the program's turn to move? On the first move of the game, there are a possible 20 moves that can be made, but it very quickly becomes much, much more. The code to be written to get a program to play really well would be enormous, wouldn't it? - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 10:45 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] multiple player game Hi Jim, Oh, I guess I didn't really mean easy, but possible might have been a better word for it. From a design aspect it would be easy. It is programming it that is complicated/hard as you have to give all of the player semi-intelligent AI to know when to block, defend, steell the ball, whatever. To make realistic decisions based on certain situations in the game. As far as AI goes it can be a pretty advanced field of study in and of itself. I've read a few books on the subject, and there is still stuff I don't understand clearly. However, building a simple AI really just requires thinking about what possible situations the game character will face during your game, and creating a list of conditions with specific responses attached. For example, in STFC I had to build a realistic combat intelligent fleet of enemy ships. As a result it would constantly check the status of the ship, the enemy, and take a certain type of action based on statistical data. If the Federation ship was weak, and nearly beaten the enemy ship might not retreat in the hope of making a solid kill. However, if that ship was heavily damaged and the Federation ship was still in combat ready status run away and live to fight another day. Of course, it was a bit more complicated than that, but this is a simple example of taking one particular combat situation, and then performing some intelligent action based on the current situation. Of course, if you want to give certain ships or a commander a more unique AI then things get much trickier. However, all and all the basic principle applies to a game like basketball. You can give each computer driven player an AI with a list of rules how to play the game in what situation it should pass the ball, dribble it, try and make a shot, etc. I don't think anyone is very good at programming AI driven game players like this at first, but it is something you can learn with practice. Sometimes it just takes a little experimentation. Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.437 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2787 - Release Date: 04/03/10 06:32:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] kringle crash help.
Hey all, could someone please help me with kringle crash? I only grab 40 gifts or something and I can't grab anything like 80 gifts. I really tri my best to get the gifts but the elves are over their and they block my way, but also I have 4 minuts to get the gifts.any help on this? Do you love audio games? Would you like to chat about BGt a game creation tool for the blind? Do you need any tips or tricks on any sought of game? Do you need to ask questions about buying a game and help for the game? Well, this is the right place for you then! If you would like to joyn, just send a blank email to. audiogamesfortheblind+subscr...@googlegroups.com With the subject subscribe in the subject line. Contact infermation. email: muhamme...@googlemail.com msn: muhammed123...@hotmail.co.uk Skype: muhammed.deniz Klango username. muhammed --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] trouble with 3d volocity
oh yeah. it goes, error reading url. time-out. - Original Message - From: Muhammed Deniz muhamme...@googlemail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 6:06 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] trouble with 3d volocity Poste the error and we should find a silution for it. Do you love audio games? Would you like to chat about BGt a game creation tool for the blind? Do you need any tips or tricks on any sought of game? Do you need to ask questions about buying a game and help for the game? Well, this is the right place for you then! If you would like to joyn, just send a blank email to. audiogamesfortheblind+subscr...@googlegroups.com With the subject subscribe in the subject line. Contact infermation. email: muhamme...@googlemail.com msn: muhammed123...@hotmail.co.uk Skype: muhammed.deniz Klango username. muhammed - Original Message - From: joe quinn jdawg1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 3:10 AM Subject: [Audyssey] trouble with 3d volocity I've posed this before, but never got a response. every time i try installing, i get a time-out message... why is this? it seems to be going rather well at first, but then dies at about 57995 kb or so... help? __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4997 (20100403) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4998 (20100404) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4998 (20100404) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] trouble with 3d volocity
I'm not sure if this would fix it but download a new installer for the game. Do you love audio games? Would you like to chat about BGt a game creation tool for the blind? Do you need any tips or tricks on any sought of game? Do you need to ask questions about buying a game and help for the game? Well, this is the right place for you then! If you would like to joyn, just send a blank email to. audiogamesfortheblind+subscr...@googlegroups.com With the subject subscribe in the subject line. Contact infermation. email: muhamme...@googlemail.com msn: muhammed123...@hotmail.co.uk Skype: muhammed.deniz Klango username. muhammed - Original Message - From: joe quinn jdawg1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 1:59 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] trouble with 3d volocity oh yeah. it goes, error reading url. time-out. - Original Message - From: Muhammed Deniz muhamme...@googlemail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 6:06 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] trouble with 3d volocity Poste the error and we should find a silution for it. Do you love audio games? Would you like to chat about BGt a game creation tool for the blind? Do you need any tips or tricks on any sought of game? Do you need to ask questions about buying a game and help for the game? Well, this is the right place for you then! If you would like to joyn, just send a blank email to. audiogamesfortheblind+subscr...@googlegroups.com With the subject subscribe in the subject line. Contact infermation. email: muhamme...@googlemail.com msn: muhammed123...@hotmail.co.uk Skype: muhammed.deniz Klango username. muhammed - Original Message - From: joe quinn jdawg1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 3:10 AM Subject: [Audyssey] trouble with 3d volocity I've posed this before, but never got a response. every time i try installing, i get a time-out message... why is this? it seems to be going rather well at first, but then dies at about 57995 kb or so... help? __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4997 (20100403) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4998 (20100404) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4998 (20100404) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] AI - Re: multiple player game
Also, the programmers modified the programming of Deep Blue as the series progressed. Deep Blue, in my opinion, would not have done as well if it had been entered into a tournament with several grand masters of the game, because it was specifically programmed to beat one player. Another grand master, although he may not have been as good at chess, would played unexpectedly according to the programming of Deep Blue, and probably would have won against the program. - Original Message - From: David Greenwood davidgreenw...@rogers.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 6:11 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] AI - Re: multiple player game In the mid-1990's, IBM developed a chess program call Deep Blue. It beat the world champion chess player Garry Kasparov in a six game match with two winds for Deep Blue, one for Garry, and three draws. There was a bit of a cloud over the incident since Garry accused IBM of cheating and challenged Deep Blue to a rematch. IBM quickly refused and dismantled Deep Blue. Some people feel that this was an admittal of IBM of their cheating, but my personal feelings are that computers are not nearly as creative and flexible as humans, and the chess master would probably have beaten Deep Blue handily if they had met again. IBM had met its goals of creating a chess program which beat the best human chess player in the world, and it could only tarnish its victory by having a rematch. Regards, David Greenwood davidgreenw...@gmagames.com http://www.GMAGames.com - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard woofer...@sbcglobal.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 12:10 AM Subject: [Audyssey] AI - Re: multiple player game If I follow what you're saying, a chess program would be a real bear to write from scratch, wouldn't it, given all of the possibilities that come up when it is the program's turn to move? On the first move of the game, there are a possible 20 moves that can be made, but it very quickly becomes much, much more. The code to be written to get a program to play really well would be enormous, wouldn't it? - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 10:45 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] multiple player game Hi Jim, Oh, I guess I didn't really mean easy, but possible might have been a better word for it. From a design aspect it would be easy. It is programming it that is complicated/hard as you have to give all of the player semi-intelligent AI to know when to block, defend, steell the ball, whatever. To make realistic decisions based on certain situations in the game. As far as AI goes it can be a pretty advanced field of study in and of itself. I've read a few books on the subject, and there is still stuff I don't understand clearly. However, building a simple AI really just requires thinking about what possible situations the game character will face during your game, and creating a list of conditions with specific responses attached. For example, in STFC I had to build a realistic combat intelligent fleet of enemy ships. As a result it would constantly check the status of the ship, the enemy, and take a certain type of action based on statistical data. If the Federation ship was weak, and nearly beaten the enemy ship might not retreat in the hope of making a solid kill. However, if that ship was heavily damaged and the Federation ship was still in combat ready status run away and live to fight another day. Of course, it was a bit more complicated than that, but this is a simple example of taking one particular combat situation, and then performing some intelligent action based on the current situation. Of course, if you want to give certain ships or a commander a more unique AI then things get much trickier. However, all and all the basic principle applies to a game like basketball. You can give each computer driven player an AI with a list of rules how to play the game in what situation it should pass the ball, dribble it, try and make a shot, etc. I don't think anyone is very good at programming AI driven game players like this at first, but it is something you can learn with practice. Sometimes it just takes a little experimentation. Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. No virus found in this
Re: [Audyssey] AI - Re: multiple player game
Hi, Well, every game is different because the person who wrote it may have used different logic in designing the AI, but by and large it is as simple as doing the most logical move for the situation. If it is a game like Chess and it is worth losing a pon to capture a powerful piece like a queen you are going to take it. That would be the logical thing to do. So that is basically how computers work. It factors risks simply by what seams to be the best choice for the moment. If You can figure out what the computers best move would be at that current point in time you can try and factor it into your game plan. As I said before computer AI generally takes the bruit force method. they use swarm tactics, go straight for the most powerful pieces on the board, and tend to go for your throat early on. I remember one time playing Elite Chess and losing the game in a total of five moves. It wasn't that the computer was technically smarter than me, but I didn't see that particular brute force attack coming until I was basically screwed strategy wise. It had diverted my attention elsewhere on the board so it could go for my king quick and fast. Now, however, I have learned that little stunt I take better care to make sure my king either has legal maneuvering room or is well protected from a quick kill. You play against a computer AI long enough you begin to learn several of its dirty tricks. Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] AI - Re: multiple player game
In that case, I have very little idea how my chess computer thinks, because I can only beat it on the first 7 of it's 64 skill levels. On the box, it was claimed to be able to beat 99.95 percent of tournament players. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 5:28 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] AI - Re: multiple player game Hi Charles, Well, the type of simple AI I described to Jim Kitchen wouldn't really be appropriate for a chess game. there are far too many factors involved to make it feasable to write the AI that way. There are however more complex types of AI out there which could and should be used in that situation. The only reason I didn't mention them before is because most of the people out there probably don't have the background to discuss fuzzy logic and other complex AI systems like that. However, even so Chess is a very complex game to play. it is even harder to program as it requires a lot of strategy and thinking ahead a few moves. That's why computers are almost written using a straight forward brute force attack because it is the least complex strategy to program. A human player can be a lot more cunning, daring, risky, etc where no computer Chess program ever quite matches human skill and cunning. It usually has the same motive of operation. If you can figure out its mode of operation, game plan, you can counter it pretty easily. Problem is most people don't know enough how computers think to actually beat the computer at its own game. Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] AI - Re: multiple player game
Hi, Oh, I bet. Computers aren't smart as people are, but they happen to have a life times worth of skill and experience playing chess stored in their AI. Often the are designed by world class Chess players, the strategies, anyway and that makes them an extremely formatable adversary. On 4/4/10, Charles Rivard woofer...@sbcglobal.net wrote: In that case, I have very little idea how my chess computer thinks, because I can only beat it on the first 7 of it's 64 skill levels. On the box, it was claimed to be able to beat 99.95 percent of tournament players. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] trouble with 3d volocity
I've done this... i don't even download it, i just rerun it but do so form the web site... - Original Message - From: Muhammed Deniz muhamme...@googlemail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 8:21 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] trouble with 3d volocity I'm not sure if this would fix it but download a new installer for the game. Do you love audio games? Would you like to chat about BGt a game creation tool for the blind? Do you need any tips or tricks on any sought of game? Do you need to ask questions about buying a game and help for the game? Well, this is the right place for you then! If you would like to joyn, just send a blank email to. audiogamesfortheblind+subscr...@googlegroups.com With the subject subscribe in the subject line. Contact infermation. email: muhamme...@googlemail.com msn: muhammed123...@hotmail.co.uk Skype: muhammed.deniz Klango username. muhammed - Original Message - From: joe quinn jdawg1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 1:59 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] trouble with 3d volocity oh yeah. it goes, error reading url. time-out. - Original Message - From: Muhammed Deniz muhamme...@googlemail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 6:06 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] trouble with 3d volocity Poste the error and we should find a silution for it. Do you love audio games? Would you like to chat about BGt a game creation tool for the blind? Do you need any tips or tricks on any sought of game? Do you need to ask questions about buying a game and help for the game? Well, this is the right place for you then! If you would like to joyn, just send a blank email to. audiogamesfortheblind+subscr...@googlegroups.com With the subject subscribe in the subject line. Contact infermation. email: muhamme...@googlemail.com msn: muhammed123...@hotmail.co.uk Skype: muhammed.deniz Klango username. muhammed - Original Message - From: joe quinn jdawg1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 3:10 AM Subject: [Audyssey] trouble with 3d volocity I've posed this before, but never got a response. every time i try installing, i get a time-out message... why is this? it seems to be going rather well at first, but then dies at about 57995 kb or so... help? __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4997 (20100403) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4998 (20100404) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4998 (20100404) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus
Re: [Audyssey] AI - Re: multiple player game
Hi David, I whole heartedly agree. Deep Blue was a computer Chess game designed specifically for that one player. Given enough time and matches Garry would have been able to determine the computers main mode of operation, its unique style of playing, and have defeated it soundly. Computers are limited to only what they have been programmed to do and after a while an experienced player will discover what style of playing it will try and can counter it. On 4/4/10, David Greenwood davidgreenw...@rogers.com wrote: In the mid-1990's, IBM developed a chess program call Deep Blue. It beat the world champion chess player Garry Kasparov in a six game match with two winds for Deep Blue, one for Garry, and three draws. There was a bit of a cloud over the incident since Garry accused IBM of cheating and challenged Deep Blue to a rematch. IBM quickly refused and dismantled Deep Blue. Some people feel that this was an admittal of IBM of their cheating, but my personal feelings are that computers are not nearly as creative and flexible as humans, and the chess master would probably have beaten Deep Blue handily if they had met again. IBM had met its goals of creating a chess program which beat the best human chess player in the world, and it could only tarnish its victory by having a rematch. Regards, David Greenwood davidgreenw...@gmagames.com http://www.GMAGames.com - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard woofer...@sbcglobal.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 12:10 AM Subject: [Audyssey] AI - Re: multiple player game If I follow what you're saying, a chess program would be a real bear to write from scratch, wouldn't it, given all of the possibilities that come up when it is the program's turn to move? On the first move of the game, there are a possible 20 moves that can be made, but it very quickly becomes much, much more. The code to be written to get a program to play really well would be enormous, wouldn't it? - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 10:45 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] multiple player game Hi Jim, Oh, I guess I didn't really mean easy, but possible might have been a better word for it. From a design aspect it would be easy. It is programming it that is complicated/hard as you have to give all of the player semi-intelligent AI to know when to block, defend, steell the ball, whatever. To make realistic decisions based on certain situations in the game. As far as AI goes it can be a pretty advanced field of study in and of itself. I've read a few books on the subject, and there is still stuff I don't understand clearly. However, building a simple AI really just requires thinking about what possible situations the game character will face during your game, and creating a list of conditions with specific responses attached. For example, in STFC I had to build a realistic combat intelligent fleet of enemy ships. As a result it would constantly check the status of the ship, the enemy, and take a certain type of action based on statistical data. If the Federation ship was weak, and nearly beaten the enemy ship might not retreat in the hope of making a solid kill. However, if that ship was heavily damaged and the Federation ship was still in combat ready status run away and live to fight another day. Of course, it was a bit more complicated than that, but this is a simple example of taking one particular combat situation, and then performing some intelligent action based on the current situation. Of course, if you want to give certain ships or a commander a more unique AI then things get much trickier. However, all and all the basic principle applies to a game like basketball. You can give each computer driven player an AI with a list of rules how to play the game in what situation it should pass the ball, dribble it, try and make a shot, etc. I don't think anyone is very good at programming AI driven game players like this at first, but it is something you can learn with practice. Sometimes it just takes a little experimentation. Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.437 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2787 - Release Date: 04/03/10 06:32:00
Re: [Audyssey] trouble with 3d volocity
Download it. If you really need help, subscribe to the BPc discussion list and we would tackle the problem as in headbutting the problem and smashing it. Do you love audio games? Would you like to chat about BGt a game creation tool for the blind? Do you need any tips or tricks on any sought of game? Do you need to ask questions about buying a game and help for the game? Well, this is the right place for you then! If you would like to joyn, just send a blank email to. audiogamesfortheblind+subscr...@googlegroups.com With the subject subscribe in the subject line. Contact infermation. email: muhamme...@googlemail.com msn: muhammed123...@hotmail.co.uk Skype: muhammed.deniz Klango username. muhammed - Original Message - From: joe quinn jdawg1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 2:40 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] trouble with 3d volocity I've done this... i don't even download it, i just rerun it but do so form the web site... - Original Message - From: Muhammed Deniz muhamme...@googlemail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 8:21 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] trouble with 3d volocity I'm not sure if this would fix it but download a new installer for the game. Do you love audio games? Would you like to chat about BGt a game creation tool for the blind? Do you need any tips or tricks on any sought of game? Do you need to ask questions about buying a game and help for the game? Well, this is the right place for you then! If you would like to joyn, just send a blank email to. audiogamesfortheblind+subscr...@googlegroups.com With the subject subscribe in the subject line. Contact infermation. email: muhamme...@googlemail.com msn: muhammed123...@hotmail.co.uk Skype: muhammed.deniz Klango username. muhammed - Original Message - From: joe quinn jdawg1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 1:59 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] trouble with 3d volocity oh yeah. it goes, error reading url. time-out. - Original Message - From: Muhammed Deniz muhamme...@googlemail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 6:06 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] trouble with 3d volocity Poste the error and we should find a silution for it. Do you love audio games? Would you like to chat about BGt a game creation tool for the blind? Do you need any tips or tricks on any sought of game? Do you need to ask questions about buying a game and help for the game? Well, this is the right place for you then! If you would like to joyn, just send a blank email to. audiogamesfortheblind+subscr...@googlegroups.com With the subject subscribe in the subject line. Contact infermation. email: muhamme...@googlemail.com msn: muhammed123...@hotmail.co.uk Skype: muhammed.deniz Klango username. muhammed - Original Message - From: joe quinn jdawg1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 3:10 AM Subject: [Audyssey] trouble with 3d volocity I've posed this before, but never got a response. every time i try installing, i get a time-out message... why is this? it seems to be going rather well at first, but then dies at about 57995 kb or so... help? __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4997 (20100403) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4998 (20100404) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4998 (20100404) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr
Re: [Audyssey] trouble with 3d volocity
ok... I'll try it, but i'd download it before and still got the same problem... - Original Message - From: Muhammed Deniz muhamme...@googlemail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 8:52 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] trouble with 3d volocity Download it. If you really need help, subscribe to the BPc discussion list and we would tackle the problem as in headbutting the problem and smashing it. Do you love audio games? Would you like to chat about BGt a game creation tool for the blind? Do you need any tips or tricks on any sought of game? Do you need to ask questions about buying a game and help for the game? Well, this is the right place for you then! If you would like to joyn, just send a blank email to. audiogamesfortheblind+subscr...@googlegroups.com With the subject subscribe in the subject line. Contact infermation. email: muhamme...@googlemail.com msn: muhammed123...@hotmail.co.uk Skype: muhammed.deniz Klango username. muhammed - Original Message - From: joe quinn jdawg1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 2:40 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] trouble with 3d volocity I've done this... i don't even download it, i just rerun it but do so form the web site... - Original Message - From: Muhammed Deniz muhamme...@googlemail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 8:21 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] trouble with 3d volocity I'm not sure if this would fix it but download a new installer for the game. Do you love audio games? Would you like to chat about BGt a game creation tool for the blind? Do you need any tips or tricks on any sought of game? Do you need to ask questions about buying a game and help for the game? Well, this is the right place for you then! If you would like to joyn, just send a blank email to. audiogamesfortheblind+subscr...@googlegroups.com With the subject subscribe in the subject line. Contact infermation. email: muhamme...@googlemail.com msn: muhammed123...@hotmail.co.uk Skype: muhammed.deniz Klango username. muhammed - Original Message - From: joe quinn jdawg1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 1:59 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] trouble with 3d volocity oh yeah. it goes, error reading url. time-out. - Original Message - From: Muhammed Deniz muhamme...@googlemail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 6:06 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] trouble with 3d volocity Poste the error and we should find a silution for it. Do you love audio games? Would you like to chat about BGt a game creation tool for the blind? Do you need any tips or tricks on any sought of game? Do you need to ask questions about buying a game and help for the game? Well, this is the right place for you then! If you would like to joyn, just send a blank email to. audiogamesfortheblind+subscr...@googlegroups.com With the subject subscribe in the subject line. Contact infermation. email: muhamme...@googlemail.com msn: muhammed123...@hotmail.co.uk Skype: muhammed.deniz Klango username. muhammed - Original Message - From: joe quinn jdawg1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 3:10 AM Subject: [Audyssey] trouble with 3d volocity I've posed this before, but never got a response. every time i try installing, i get a time-out message... why is this? it seems to be going rather well at first, but then dies at about 57995 kb or so... help? __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4997 (20100403) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4998 (20100404) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com
Re: [Audyssey] multiple player game
Hi Jess, Unfortunately, no. That happens to be one of the sports games that haven't been made in an accessible format yet. If I knew more about basketball and had the sounds to do it I might be willing to try it myself, but need the sounds and rules to really put together something decent. Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] multiple player game
Hi Jim, Well, I do pretty much the same thing. All of the games I'm working on are of some particular interest to me personally. If that wasn't the case I wouldn't have continued working on them for this long. A developer has to like what he's creating or there is no motivation to make a decent game in the first place. On 4/4/10, Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net wrote: Hi Phil, Yes, the Cavs are Cleveland's best sports team. Ironic then since I am not a fan and never listen to basketball, soccer or hockey. Give me NASCAR, football or baseball. And of course those are the games I have created, because I am into them. Not much fun to create games that one is not into. At least that is the way that it is for me. I play every game that I have ever created. That is also why I do not create games where there are puzzles to solve to play and finish the game. I mean what fun would that be for me to play? Guess that is pretty selfish of me to only create games that I am into and want to play. But that's the way that I am. BFN --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] multiple player game
Hi Jim, I'm pretty sure it could be. However, like you basketball isn't my favorite sport. I use to go to my high school basketball games to cheer my team on, but it never really was that big an interest of mine. I have always liked wrestling, football, and baseball more. If I had a choice I'd much rather see a wrestling type game than a basketball game for the blind. The WWE games for the Playstation are good, but do require quite a bit of memerising to play effectively. So I'd like to see a game like it only fully accessible. On 4/4/10, Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net wrote: Hi Thomas, Yes, thanks, I am aware of what is involved in AI for games. As I said though, I am not into it as much as other types of game coding. But so there you go, create and sell a basketball game. Heck once you or someone does the AI for basketball I bet that it could fairly easily be converted for use for a hockey, soccer and goalball game. BFN --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there?
Hi List: Are there any interactive fiction fans out there? If so, can you please contact me off list? I would sincerely appreciate a newbie to this area some help and explanations and do not want to fill this list with more traffic. Thanks in advance. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] tv manager 2 advice
Hi. to everyone who's planning on giving this a try I'll offer some advice. first, you need a screen reading curser that can emulate mouse actions, so the dolphin curser for hal, jaws curser or I believe window eyes curser is needed. To anyone who's played smugglers 4, things should then be familiar interface wise (and to anyone who hasn't played smugglers 4, try it, it's fun!). First off, activate blind compatibility mode. The game begins with tutorial text on the screen, and you'll need to minimize that to get to the blind compatibility mode button (you need to minimize the tutorial text each time actually). Then, on the first screen to choose scenario and such, you have a number of written choices with next/previous below them and a continue button at the bottom. Then, you'll be in the office menue, and can click stuff to open other in game menues. You'll need to dragtv programs into the various fields for adds and such, I'm not sure how this is done in other screen readers, but for hal in virtual focus, it's right ctrl home to pick up something to drag, right ctrl end to drop. As to the game in general, it's a litle like a card game, where you need to buy movies, and series and select news items to get certain quantities of audience watching your tv channel, then select adds for that sort of audience, which then make you more cash. The compatibility mode isn't finished as yet, but it almost is, so people should probably give this, along with the two smugglers space adventure and trade games, a try. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there?
Hi mike. No problem with traffic about if on this list, --- ask away. If you are a newby though, you could do much worse than checking out http://www.microheaven.com/IFGuide/step2.html which have a great beginners' guide. I'd also recommend you try the game dreamhold by andrew plotkin found at http://ifarchive.heanet.ie/if-archive/games/zcode/dreamhold.z8 you can run this with windows frotz, winfrotz (including the winfrotz tts version which outputs directly to sapi), or anything which plays z code game files. It's a really great story and adventure, but whats' more is it's probably the best introduction to If I've seen. there are various ones knocking about, but for a hands on in game intro going through how to give commands, and what puzles are, dreamhold is deffinately my favourite (not the least because it's an incredibly interesting game and story in it's own right). hth. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: mike maslo mmaslo1...@swbell.net To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 4:46 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Hi List: Are there any interactive fiction fans out there? If so, can you please contact me off list? I would sincerely appreciate a newbie to this area some help and explanations and do not want to fill this list with more traffic. Thanks in advance. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] need help
what i need help for is entombed. i have notice that as i go more in the game i notice that it takes a longer time to load a save game. and it takes longer to come out of the battle when it is done. does anyone else notice that or is that normal. -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there?
Dark: Well I am trying to figure out azteca and I got to embarrassing point of the jaguar room but can't figure out how to open the wall by the jaguar. I see it is very similar to muds and sometimes the concepts on how it works. I will ask questions as I run across them but it looks great so far. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 11:42 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Hi mike. No problem with traffic about if on this list, --- ask away. If you are a newby though, you could do much worse than checking out http://www.microheaven.com/IFGuide/step2.html which have a great beginners' guide. I'd also recommend you try the game dreamhold by andrew plotkin found at http://ifarchive.heanet.ie/if-archive/games/zcode/dreamhold.z8 you can run this with windows frotz, winfrotz (including the winfrotz tts version which outputs directly to sapi), or anything which plays z code game files. It's a really great story and adventure, but whats' more is it's probably the best introduction to If I've seen. there are various ones knocking about, but for a hands on in game intro going through how to give commands, and what puzles are, dreamhold is deffinately my favourite (not the least because it's an incredibly interesting game and story in it's own right). hth. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: mike maslo mmaslo1...@swbell.net To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 4:46 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Hi List: Are there any interactive fiction fans out there? If so, can you please contact me off list? I would sincerely appreciate a newbie to this area some help and explanations and do not want to fill this list with more traffic. Thanks in advance. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Interactive fiction
Can someone please explain on how to use the ftp client on the win frotz? I have a game on my laptop and want to transfer it to my iphone but do not have a network. Any help would be sincerely appreciated. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there?
Hi Mike, play dragon dot z5 or gurmay. Their are really cool games like that and you will enjoy them, plus dragon is much cool but you need a brail note in order to play those games. Do you love audio games? Would you like to chat about BGt a game creation tool for the blind? Do you need any tips or tricks on any sought of game? Do you need to ask questions about buying a game and help for the game? Well, this is the right place for you then! If you would like to joyn, just send a blank email to. audiogamesfortheblind+subscr...@googlegroups.com With the subject subscribe in the subject line. Contact infermation. email: muhamme...@googlemail.com msn: muhammed123...@hotmail.co.uk Skype: muhammed.deniz Klango username. muhammed - Original Message - From: mike maslo mmaslo1...@swbell.net To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 7:17 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Dark: Well I am trying to figure out azteca and I got to embarrassing point of the jaguar room but can't figure out how to open the wall by the jaguar. I see it is very similar to muds and sometimes the concepts on how it works. I will ask questions as I run across them but it looks great so far. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 11:42 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Hi mike. No problem with traffic about if on this list, --- ask away. If you are a newby though, you could do much worse than checking out http://www.microheaven.com/IFGuide/step2.html which have a great beginners' guide. I'd also recommend you try the game dreamhold by andrew plotkin found at http://ifarchive.heanet.ie/if-archive/games/zcode/dreamhold.z8 you can run this with windows frotz, winfrotz (including the winfrotz tts version which outputs directly to sapi), or anything which plays z code game files. It's a really great story and adventure, but whats' more is it's probably the best introduction to If I've seen. there are various ones knocking about, but for a hands on in game intro going through how to give commands, and what puzles are, dreamhold is deffinately my favourite (not the least because it's an incredibly interesting game and story in it's own right). hth. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: mike maslo mmaslo1...@swbell.net To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 4:46 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Hi List: Are there any interactive fiction fans out there? If so, can you please contact me off list? I would sincerely appreciate a newbie to this area some help and explanations and do not want to fill this list with more traffic. Thanks in advance. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Interaction fiction help
Hi everyone: I am playing a game called azteca from the interactive fiction book which was one of the free one's and I am stuck. Hope someone can help me with it. I am in the jaguar room and see on the floor scuff marks. When I examine the scuff marks I see it say wax marks go to the westward wall and there are stones which are not aligned or something like that. I know that I need to do something to open or get that wall open but cannot figure what to do. If anyone could help me figure out what to try I would sure be appreciative. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] multiple player game
I like sports like kung fu and boxing and kirati. Haven't tried boxing and kirati or boxing, but I tried kung fu at Ipop. Resseling is also my fan. Though I wish I could do rifle shooting. Do you love audio games? Would you like to chat about BGt a game creation tool for the blind? Do you need any tips or tricks on any sought of game? Do you need to ask questions about buying a game and help for the game? Well, this is the right place for you then! If you would like to joyn, just send a blank email to. audiogamesfortheblind+subscr...@googlegroups.com With the subject subscribe in the subject line. Contact infermation. email: muhamme...@googlemail.com msn: muhammed123...@hotmail.co.uk Skype: muhammed.deniz Klango username. muhammed - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 4:35 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] multiple player game Hi Jim, I'm pretty sure it could be. However, like you basketball isn't my favorite sport. I use to go to my high school basketball games to cheer my team on, but it never really was that big an interest of mine. I have always liked wrestling, football, and baseball more. If I had a choice I'd much rather see a wrestling type game than a basketball game for the blind. The WWE games for the Playstation are good, but do require quite a bit of memerising to play effectively. So I'd like to see a game like it only fully accessible. On 4/4/10, Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net wrote: Hi Thomas, Yes, thanks, I am aware of what is involved in AI for games. As I said though, I am not into it as much as other types of game coding. But so there you go, create and sell a basketball game. Heck once you or someone does the AI for basketball I bet that it could fairly easily be converted for use for a hockey, soccer and goalball game. BFN --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] need help
first, which version of the game are you running? Before it was fixed so that items and corpses disappeared from previous floors, there was a great deal of slowdown indeed, i very much recommend grabbing both the latest copy of the eentombed installer and update patch. The latest version is 1.01, (the installer installs 1.0, and the patch upgrades to 01). Check the news items of www.audiogames.net for the links to download both. hth. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: michael barnes c...@samobile.net To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 6:12 PM Subject: [Audyssey] need help what i need help for is entombed. i have notice that as i go more in the game i notice that it takes a longer time to load a save game. and it takes longer to come out of the battle when it is done. does anyone else notice that or is that normal. -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there?
Hmmm, I can't recall azteca specifically, but remember how well you c an interact with game elements depends very much on how much of a brain the creator had. I spent ages trying to get through the fireplace in the pentory prequal, --- north, (sinse it was in the north wall), enter fire place you can't enter that when it turned out I had to type in, for the love of pete! I don't remember any such issue with azteca, but I will confess this business with the prequal, and the fact that I can make no headway whatsoever with the demo of the first game rather put me off malinch's stuff. As with regular fiction though, this just depends upon who wrote the game, and there is a lot more interactive fiction available than just malinches' stuff, check those links I sent in the previous message for starters, then have a look at http://www.wurb.com/if/ and search for something with good reviews that looks interesting. personally, I'd recommend stuff by emily short, paul obrian and aAndrew plotkin, but again this depends upon my personal preference for weerd exploritory fantasy stuff. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: mike maslo mmaslo1...@swbell.net To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 7:17 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Dark: Well I am trying to figure out azteca and I got to embarrassing point of the jaguar room but can't figure out how to open the wall by the jaguar. I see it is very similar to muds and sometimes the concepts on how it works. I will ask questions as I run across them but it looks great so far. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 11:42 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Hi mike. No problem with traffic about if on this list, --- ask away. If you are a newby though, you could do much worse than checking out http://www.microheaven.com/IFGuide/step2.html which have a great beginners' guide. I'd also recommend you try the game dreamhold by andrew plotkin found at http://ifarchive.heanet.ie/if-archive/games/zcode/dreamhold.z8 you can run this with windows frotz, winfrotz (including the winfrotz tts version which outputs directly to sapi), or anything which plays z code game files. It's a really great story and adventure, but whats' more is it's probably the best introduction to If I've seen. there are various ones knocking about, but for a hands on in game intro going through how to give commands, and what puzles are, dreamhold is deffinately my favourite (not the least because it's an incredibly interesting game and story in it's own right). hth. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: mike maslo mmaslo1...@swbell.net To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 4:46 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Hi List: Are there any interactive fiction fans out there? If so, can you please contact me off list? I would sincerely appreciate a newbie to this area some help and explanations and do not want to fill this list with more traffic. Thanks in advance. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at
Re: [Audyssey] Interactive fiction
Hmmm, can't you just copy the game and save files as normal? I've not tried mobile software, but certainly I've used this to transfer if games betwene a number of computers. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: mike maslo mmaslo1...@swbell.net To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 7:38 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Interactive fiction Can someone please explain on how to use the ftp client on the win frotz? I have a game on my laptop and want to transfer it to my iphone but do not have a network. Any help would be sincerely appreciated. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Interaction fiction help
Hmmm, try examine stones or examine wall, or maybe push stones. I don't personally remember having an issue with that one, so it must've been something fairly obvious. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: mike maslo mmaslo1...@swbell.net To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 9:13 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Interaction fiction help Hi everyone: I am playing a game called azteca from the interactive fiction book which was one of the free one's and I am stuck. Hope someone can help me with it. I am in the jaguar room and see on the floor scuff marks. When I examine the scuff marks I see it say wax marks go to the westward wall and there are stones which are not aligned or something like that. I know that I need to do something to open or get that wall open but cannot figure what to do. If anyone could help me figure out what to try I would sure be appreciative. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Interaction fiction help
Tri x wall. Do you love audio games? Would you like to chat about BGt a game creation tool for the blind? Do you need any tips or tricks on any sought of game? Do you need to ask questions about buying a game and help for the game? Well, this is the right place for you then! If you would like to joyn, just send a blank email to. audiogamesfortheblind+subscr...@googlegroups.com With the subject subscribe in the subject line. Contact infermation. email: muhamme...@googlemail.com msn: muhammed123...@hotmail.co.uk Skype: muhammed.deniz Klango username. muhammed - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 9:26 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Interaction fiction help Hmmm, try examine stones or examine wall, or maybe push stones. I don't personally remember having an issue with that one, so it must've been something fairly obvious. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: mike maslo mmaslo1...@swbell.net To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 9:13 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Interaction fiction help Hi everyone: I am playing a game called azteca from the interactive fiction book which was one of the free one's and I am stuck. Hope someone can help me with it. I am in the jaguar room and see on the floor scuff marks. When I examine the scuff marks I see it say wax marks go to the westward wall and there are stones which are not aligned or something like that. I know that I need to do something to open or get that wall open but cannot figure what to do. If anyone could help me figure out what to try I would sure be appreciative. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] kringle crash help.
well get as much as you can. there is the time limit and ofcaue how fast you go. and random gifts and the fact they drop faster than you can pick eventually. At 12:57 a.m. 5/04/2010, you wrote: Hey all, could someone please help me with kringle crash? I only grab 40 gifts or something and I can't grab anything like 80 gifts. I really tri my best to get the gifts but the elves are over their and they block my way, but also I have 4 minuts to get the gifts.any help on this? Do you love audio games? Would you like to chat about BGt a game creation tool for the blind? Do you need any tips or tricks on any sought of game? Do you need to ask questions about buying a game and help for the game? Well, this is the right place for you then! If you would like to joyn, just send a blank email to. audiogamesfortheblind+subscr...@googlegroups.com With the subject subscribe in the subject line. Contact infermation. email: muhamme...@googlemail.com msn: muhammed123...@hotmail.co.uk Skype: muhammed.deniz Klango username. muhammed --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] kringle crash help.
Shaun, I know all of that. What I really need is some tips. Do you love audio games? Would you like to chat about BGt a game creation tool for the blind? Do you need any tips or tricks on any sought of game? Do you need to ask questions about buying a game and help for the game? Well, this is the right place for you then! If you would like to joyn, just send a blank email to. audiogamesfortheblind+subscr...@googlegroups.com With the subject subscribe in the subject line. Contact infermation. email: muhamme...@googlemail.com msn: muhammed123...@hotmail.co.uk Skype: muhammed.deniz Klango username. muhammed - Original Message - From: shaun everiss shau...@xtra.co.nz To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 9:38 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] kringle crash help. well get as much as you can. there is the time limit and ofcaue how fast you go. and random gifts and the fact they drop faster than you can pick eventually. At 12:57 a.m. 5/04/2010, you wrote: Hey all, could someone please help me with kringle crash? I only grab 40 gifts or something and I can't grab anything like 80 gifts. I really tri my best to get the gifts but the elves are over their and they block my way, but also I have 4 minuts to get the gifts.any help on this? Do you love audio games? Would you like to chat about BGt a game creation tool for the blind? Do you need any tips or tricks on any sought of game? Do you need to ask questions about buying a game and help for the game? Well, this is the right place for you then! If you would like to joyn, just send a blank email to. audiogamesfortheblind+subscr...@googlegroups.com With the subject subscribe in the subject line. Contact infermation. email: muhamme...@googlemail.com msn: muhammed123...@hotmail.co.uk Skype: muhammed.deniz Klango username. muhammed --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there?
ok you are on my msn so if your email is the same as msn then I have your address. however you never included your address on list and its not in the headers for whatever reason. At 03:46 a.m. 5/04/2010, you wrote: Hi List: Are there any interactive fiction fans out there? If so, can you please contact me off list? I would sincerely appreciate a newbie to this area some help and explanations and do not want to fill this list with more traffic. Thanks in advance. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there?
hmmm I never actually figured out that game at all. actually the only stuff I have is lacuna and hmmm world of darkness I guess I could play tads games if using html tads now and I sertainly have these. I have futureboy but havn't found anything else I like for the hugo or blorg glulks interpriters I'd like to find a good real good frots interpreter though. I have tried winfrotztts and hmmm prefur my reader maybe I'll look round and see. At 06:17 a.m. 5/04/2010, you wrote: Dark: Well I am trying to figure out azteca and I got to embarrassing point of the jaguar room but can't figure out how to open the wall by the jaguar. I see it is very similar to muds and sometimes the concepts on how it works. I will ask questions as I run across them but it looks great so far. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 11:42 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Hi mike. No problem with traffic about if on this list, --- ask away. If you are a newby though, you could do much worse than checking out http://www.microheaven.com/IFGuide/step2.html which have a great beginners' guide. I'd also recommend you try the game dreamhold by andrew plotkin found at http://ifarchive.heanet.ie/if-archive/games/zcode/dreamhold.z8 you can run this with windows frotz, winfrotz (including the winfrotz tts version which outputs directly to sapi), or anything which plays z code game files. It's a really great story and adventure, but whats' more is it's probably the best introduction to If I've seen. there are various ones knocking about, but for a hands on in game intro going through how to give commands, and what puzles are, dreamhold is deffinately my favourite (not the least because it's an incredibly interesting game and story in it's own right). hth. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: mike maslo mmaslo1...@swbell.net To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 4:46 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Hi List: Are there any interactive fiction fans out there? If so, can you please contact me off list? I would sincerely appreciate a newbie to this area some help and explanations and do not want to fill this list with more traffic. Thanks in advance. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] kringle crash help.
hmmm well bash the keyboard space bar left and right arrows as fast as you can, when you have 3 gifts run to the left and hit enter and continue to bash your keyboard till it breaks. I have an external board which I bash, even so going full tilt you won't get everything. At 08:41 a.m. 5/04/2010, you wrote: Shaun, I know all of that. What I really need is some tips. Do you love audio games? Would you like to chat about BGt a game creation tool for the blind? Do you need any tips or tricks on any sought of game? Do you need to ask questions about buying a game and help for the game? Well, this is the right place for you then! If you would like to joyn, just send a blank email to. audiogamesfortheblind+subscr...@googlegroups.com With the subject subscribe in the subject line. Contact infermation. email: muhamme...@googlemail.com msn: muhammed123...@hotmail.co.uk Skype: muhammed.deniz Klango username. muhammed - Original Message - From: shaun everiss shau...@xtra.co.nz To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 9:38 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] kringle crash help. well get as much as you can. there is the time limit and ofcaue how fast you go. and random gifts and the fact they drop faster than you can pick eventually. At 12:57 a.m. 5/04/2010, you wrote: Hey all, could someone please help me with kringle crash? I only grab 40 gifts or something and I can't grab anything like 80 gifts. I really tri my best to get the gifts but the elves are over their and they block my way, but also I have 4 minuts to get the gifts.any help on this? Do you love audio games? Would you like to chat about BGt a game creation tool for the blind? Do you need any tips or tricks on any sought of game? Do you need to ask questions about buying a game and help for the game? Well, this is the right place for you then! If you would like to joyn, just send a blank email to. audiogamesfortheblind+subscr...@googlegroups.com With the subject subscribe in the subject line. Contact infermation. email: muhamme...@googlemail.com msn: muhammed123...@hotmail.co.uk Skype: muhammed.deniz Klango username. muhammed --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there?
I've run win frotz with Hal, win frotz tts, and win tads. personally, I've always gone on what games I liked, rather than the interpreter. Thus my favourite games have been worlds apart and bable which were tads, dreamhold, the djini chronicles, pythos mask, lash and wearing the claw which were zcode, and then the earth and sky series which started in zcode, then moved into glulks. You can find them all by searching baffs' guide. As I said, I completed azteca, but thought it was okay, then started the pentori series on the basis that malinches' very aggressive promotional style (which actually i find to be rather irritating), and the fact that their a commercial company must have some basis in fact, but after getting stuck in the fireplace in the first pentori prequal (I had to actually E-mail malinch about that one), then getting practically nowhwere with the next pentori game, well lets just say i sort of lost interest. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: shaun everiss shau...@xtra.co.nz To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 9:52 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? hmmm I never actually figured out that game at all. actually the only stuff I have is lacuna and hmmm world of darkness I guess I could play tads games if using html tads now and I sertainly have these. I have futureboy but havn't found anything else I like for the hugo or blorg glulks interpriters I'd like to find a good real good frots interpreter though. I have tried winfrotztts and hmmm prefur my reader maybe I'll look round and see. At 06:17 a.m. 5/04/2010, you wrote: Dark: Well I am trying to figure out azteca and I got to embarrassing point of the jaguar room but can't figure out how to open the wall by the jaguar. I see it is very similar to muds and sometimes the concepts on how it works. I will ask questions as I run across them but it looks great so far. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 11:42 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Hi mike. No problem with traffic about if on this list, --- ask away. If you are a newby though, you could do much worse than checking out http://www.microheaven.com/IFGuide/step2.html which have a great beginners' guide. I'd also recommend you try the game dreamhold by andrew plotkin found at http://ifarchive.heanet.ie/if-archive/games/zcode/dreamhold.z8 you can run this with windows frotz, winfrotz (including the winfrotz tts version which outputs directly to sapi), or anything which plays z code game files. It's a really great story and adventure, but whats' more is it's probably the best introduction to If I've seen. there are various ones knocking about, but for a hands on in game intro going through how to give commands, and what puzles are, dreamhold is deffinately my favourite (not the least because it's an incredibly interesting game and story in it's own right). hth. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: mike maslo mmaslo1...@swbell.net To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 4:46 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Hi List: Are there any interactive fiction fans out there? If so, can you please contact me off list? I would sincerely appreciate a newbie to this area some help and explanations and do not want to fill this list with more traffic. Thanks in advance. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions
[Audyssey] to dark
hey i have 1.01 i got the current update that i know of. so what then could cause the problem -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] to dark
Not sure. Try heading back to town and selling stuff off regularly, maybe it's that your inventory is too large (I know jason said he was going to implement inventory limits, maybe he hasn't yet). personally, I head back to town and sell stuff every floor, maybe this is why I haven't had this issue sinse Jason fixed the corpse trouble. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: michael barnes c...@samobile.net To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 10:12 PM Subject: [Audyssey] to dark hey i have 1.01 i got the current update that i know of. so what then could cause the problem -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] multiple player game
Hello Jim, awhile back I talked to you about writing a game in VB6. The game was based on the 2-4 player card game called, Racko. I asked you about artificial intelligence and I think you recommended a book to me. Can you tell me again what that book was? or can anyone else on this list recommend a good beginner AI book to start with. thanks Robert --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there?
Hi Dark, I've ben playing the dreamhold for awhile now myself, and I can't seem to find how to put the masks into the mirror. What order is it supposed to be? Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 4:04 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? I've run win frotz with Hal, win frotz tts, and win tads. personally, I've always gone on what games I liked, rather than the interpreter. Thus my favourite games have been worlds apart and bable which were tads, dreamhold, the djini chronicles, pythos mask, lash and wearing the claw which were zcode, and then the earth and sky series which started in zcode, then moved into glulks. You can find them all by searching baffs' guide. As I said, I completed azteca, but thought it was okay, then started the pentori series on the basis that malinches' very aggressive promotional style (which actually i find to be rather irritating), and the fact that their a commercial company must have some basis in fact, but after getting stuck in the fireplace in the first pentori prequal (I had to actually E-mail malinch about that one), then getting practically nowhwere with the next pentori game, well lets just say i sort of lost interest. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: shaun everiss shau...@xtra.co.nz To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 9:52 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? hmmm I never actually figured out that game at all. actually the only stuff I have is lacuna and hmmm world of darkness I guess I could play tads games if using html tads now and I sertainly have these. I have futureboy but havn't found anything else I like for the hugo or blorg glulks interpriters I'd like to find a good real good frots interpreter though. I have tried winfrotztts and hmmm prefur my reader maybe I'll look round and see. At 06:17 a.m. 5/04/2010, you wrote: Dark: Well I am trying to figure out azteca and I got to embarrassing point of the jaguar room but can't figure out how to open the wall by the jaguar. I see it is very similar to muds and sometimes the concepts on how it works. I will ask questions as I run across them but it looks great so far. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 11:42 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Hi mike. No problem with traffic about if on this list, --- ask away. If you are a newby though, you could do much worse than checking out http://www.microheaven.com/IFGuide/step2.html which have a great beginners' guide. I'd also recommend you try the game dreamhold by andrew plotkin found at http://ifarchive.heanet.ie/if-archive/games/zcode/dreamhold.z8 you can run this with windows frotz, winfrotz (including the winfrotz tts version which outputs directly to sapi), or anything which plays z code game files. It's a really great story and adventure, but whats' more is it's probably the best introduction to If I've seen. there are various ones knocking about, but for a hands on in game intro going through how to give commands, and what puzles are, dreamhold is deffinately my favourite (not the least because it's an incredibly interesting game and story in it's own right). hth. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: mike maslo mmaslo1...@swbell.net To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 4:46 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Hi List: Are there any interactive fiction fans out there? If so, can you please contact me off list? I would sincerely appreciate a newbie to this area some help and explanations and do not want to fill this list with more traffic. Thanks in advance. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list,
[Audyssey] Second life
Is it possible for us to play second life yet, and what will I need to play it? Lindsay Cowell --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there?
Hello Hayden, Beware that when you stand up from the chair, the masks will land back on the chair. Do you love audio games? Would you like to chat about BGt a game creation tool for the blind? Do you need any tips or tricks on any sought of game? Do you need to ask questions about buying a game and help for the game? Well, this is the right place for you then! If you would like to joyn, just send a blank email to. audiogamesfortheblind+subscr...@googlegroups.com With the subject subscribe in the subject line. Contact infermation. email: muhamme...@googlemail.com msn: muhammed123...@hotmail.co.uk Skype: muhammed.deniz Klango username. muhammed - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 12:42 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Hi Dark, I've ben playing the dreamhold for awhile now myself, and I can't seem to find how to put the masks into the mirror. What order is it supposed to be? Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 4:04 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? I've run win frotz with Hal, win frotz tts, and win tads. personally, I've always gone on what games I liked, rather than the interpreter. Thus my favourite games have been worlds apart and bable which were tads, dreamhold, the djini chronicles, pythos mask, lash and wearing the claw which were zcode, and then the earth and sky series which started in zcode, then moved into glulks. You can find them all by searching baffs' guide. As I said, I completed azteca, but thought it was okay, then started the pentori series on the basis that malinches' very aggressive promotional style (which actually i find to be rather irritating), and the fact that their a commercial company must have some basis in fact, but after getting stuck in the fireplace in the first pentori prequal (I had to actually E-mail malinch about that one), then getting practically nowhwere with the next pentori game, well lets just say i sort of lost interest. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: shaun everiss shau...@xtra.co.nz To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 9:52 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? hmmm I never actually figured out that game at all. actually the only stuff I have is lacuna and hmmm world of darkness I guess I could play tads games if using html tads now and I sertainly have these. I have futureboy but havn't found anything else I like for the hugo or blorg glulks interpriters I'd like to find a good real good frots interpreter though. I have tried winfrotztts and hmmm prefur my reader maybe I'll look round and see. At 06:17 a.m. 5/04/2010, you wrote: Dark: Well I am trying to figure out azteca and I got to embarrassing point of the jaguar room but can't figure out how to open the wall by the jaguar. I see it is very similar to muds and sometimes the concepts on how it works. I will ask questions as I run across them but it looks great so far. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 11:42 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Hi mike. No problem with traffic about if on this list, --- ask away. If you are a newby though, you could do much worse than checking out http://www.microheaven.com/IFGuide/step2.html which have a great beginners' guide. I'd also recommend you try the game dreamhold by andrew plotkin found at http://ifarchive.heanet.ie/if-archive/games/zcode/dreamhold.z8 you can run this with windows frotz, winfrotz (including the winfrotz tts version which outputs directly to sapi), or anything which plays z code game files. It's a really great story and adventure, but whats' more is it's probably the best introduction to If I've seen. there are various ones knocking about, but for a hands on in game intro going through how to give commands, and what puzles are, dreamhold is deffinately my favourite (not the least because it's an incredibly interesting game and story in it's own right). hth. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: mike maslo mmaslo1...@swbell.net To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 4:46 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Hi List: Are there any interactive fiction fans out there? If so, can you please contact me off list? I would sincerely appreciate a newbie to this area some help and explanations and do not want to fill this list with more traffic. Thanks in advance. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave
Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there?
Ooops yes it is mmaslo1...@swbell.net -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of shaun everiss Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 3:45 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? ok you are on my msn so if your email is the same as msn then I have your address. however you never included your address on list and its not in the headers for whatever reason. At 03:46 a.m. 5/04/2010, you wrote: Hi List: Are there any interactive fiction fans out there? If so, can you please contact me off list? I would sincerely appreciate a newbie to this area some help and explanations and do not want to fill this list with more traffic. Thanks in advance. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Where can I get these games at? I would be willing to try all of them. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Muhammed Deniz Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 3:11 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Hi Mike, play dragon dot z5 or gurmay. Their are really cool games like that and you will enjoy them, plus dragon is much cool but you need a brail note in order to play those games. Do you love audio games? Would you like to chat about BGt a game creation tool for the blind? Do you need any tips or tricks on any sought of game? Do you need to ask questions about buying a game and help for the game? Well, this is the right place for you then! If you would like to joyn, just send a blank email to. audiogamesfortheblind+subscr...@googlegroups.com With the subject subscribe in the subject line. Contact infermation. email: muhamme...@googlemail.com msn: muhammed123...@hotmail.co.uk Skype: muhammed.deniz Klango username. muhammed - Original Message - From: mike maslo mmaslo1...@swbell.net To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 7:17 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Dark: Well I am trying to figure out azteca and I got to embarrassing point of the jaguar room but can't figure out how to open the wall by the jaguar. I see it is very similar to muds and sometimes the concepts on how it works. I will ask questions as I run across them but it looks great so far. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 11:42 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Hi mike. No problem with traffic about if on this list, --- ask away. If you are a newby though, you could do much worse than checking out http://www.microheaven.com/IFGuide/step2.html which have a great beginners' guide. I'd also recommend you try the game dreamhold by andrew plotkin found at http://ifarchive.heanet.ie/if-archive/games/zcode/dreamhold.z8 you can run this with windows frotz, winfrotz (including the winfrotz tts version which outputs directly to sapi), or anything which plays z code game files. It's a really great story and adventure, but whats' more is it's probably the best introduction to If I've seen. there are various ones knocking about, but for a hands on in game intro going through how to give commands, and what puzles are, dreamhold is deffinately my favourite (not the least because it's an incredibly interesting game and story in it's own right). hth. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: mike maslo mmaslo1...@swbell.net To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 4:46 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Hi List: Are there any interactive fiction fans out there? If so, can you please contact me off list? I would sincerely appreciate a newbie to this area some help and explanations and do not want to fill this list with more traffic. Thanks in advance. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at
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I looked or examine the wall. It says there is a or the wall is not aligned with rest of the wall or the stones are not aligned with rest of the wall. At that point I do not know what to do. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Muhammed Deniz Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 3:37 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Interaction fiction help Tri x wall. Do you love audio games? Would you like to chat about BGt a game creation tool for the blind? Do you need any tips or tricks on any sought of game? Do you need to ask questions about buying a game and help for the game? Well, this is the right place for you then! If you would like to joyn, just send a blank email to. audiogamesfortheblind+subscr...@googlegroups.com With the subject subscribe in the subject line. Contact infermation. email: muhamme...@googlemail.com msn: muhammed123...@hotmail.co.uk Skype: muhammed.deniz Klango username. muhammed - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 9:26 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Interaction fiction help Hmmm, try examine stones or examine wall, or maybe push stones. I don't personally remember having an issue with that one, so it must've been something fairly obvious. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: mike maslo mmaslo1...@swbell.net To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 9:13 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Interaction fiction help Hi everyone: I am playing a game called azteca from the interactive fiction book which was one of the free one's and I am stuck. Hope someone can help me with it. I am in the jaguar room and see on the floor scuff marks. When I examine the scuff marks I see it say wax marks go to the westward wall and there are stones which are not aligned or something like that. I know that I need to do something to open or get that wall open but cannot figure what to do. If anyone could help me figure out what to try I would sure be appreciative. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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http://www.ifarchive.org Do you love audio games? Would you like to chat about BGt a game creation tool for the blind? Do you need any tips or tricks on any sought of game? Do you need to ask questions about buying a game and help for the game? Well, this is the right place for you then! If you would like to joyn, just send a blank email to. audiogamesfortheblind+subscr...@googlegroups.com With the subject subscribe in the subject line. Contact infermation. email: muhamme...@googlemail.com msn: muhammed123...@hotmail.co.uk Skype: muhammed.deniz Klango username. muhammed - Original Message - From: mike maslo mmaslo1...@swbell.net To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 12:55 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Where can I get these games at? I would be willing to try all of them. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Muhammed Deniz Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 3:11 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Hi Mike, play dragon dot z5 or gurmay. Their are really cool games like that and you will enjoy them, plus dragon is much cool but you need a brail note in order to play those games. Do you love audio games? Would you like to chat about BGt a game creation tool for the blind? Do you need any tips or tricks on any sought of game? Do you need to ask questions about buying a game and help for the game? Well, this is the right place for you then! If you would like to joyn, just send a blank email to. audiogamesfortheblind+subscr...@googlegroups.com With the subject subscribe in the subject line. Contact infermation. email: muhamme...@googlemail.com msn: muhammed123...@hotmail.co.uk Skype: muhammed.deniz Klango username. muhammed - Original Message - From: mike maslo mmaslo1...@swbell.net To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 7:17 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Dark: Well I am trying to figure out azteca and I got to embarrassing point of the jaguar room but can't figure out how to open the wall by the jaguar. I see it is very similar to muds and sometimes the concepts on how it works. I will ask questions as I run across them but it looks great so far. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 11:42 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Hi mike. No problem with traffic about if on this list, --- ask away. If you are a newby though, you could do much worse than checking out http://www.microheaven.com/IFGuide/step2.html which have a great beginners' guide. I'd also recommend you try the game dreamhold by andrew plotkin found at http://ifarchive.heanet.ie/if-archive/games/zcode/dreamhold.z8 you can run this with windows frotz, winfrotz (including the winfrotz tts version which outputs directly to sapi), or anything which plays z code game files. It's a really great story and adventure, but whats' more is it's probably the best introduction to If I've seen. there are various ones knocking about, but for a hands on in game intro going through how to give commands, and what puzles are, dreamhold is deffinately my favourite (not the least because it's an incredibly interesting game and story in it's own right). hth. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: mike maslo mmaslo1...@swbell.net To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 4:46 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Hi List: Are there any interactive fiction fans out there? If so, can you please contact me off list? I would sincerely appreciate a newbie to this area some help and explanations and do not want to fill this list with more traffic. Thanks in advance. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to
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Hi Muhammed, That's not what I asked; and I know that. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Muhammed Deniz Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 6:45 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Hello Hayden, Beware that when you stand up from the chair, the masks will land back on the chair. Do you love audio games? Would you like to chat about BGt a game creation tool for the blind? Do you need any tips or tricks on any sought of game? Do you need to ask questions about buying a game and help for the game? Well, this is the right place for you then! If you would like to joyn, just send a blank email to. audiogamesfortheblind+subscr...@googlegroups.com With the subject subscribe in the subject line. Contact infermation. email: muhamme...@googlemail.com msn: muhammed123...@hotmail.co.uk Skype: muhammed.deniz Klango username. muhammed - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 12:42 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Hi Dark, I've ben playing the dreamhold for awhile now myself, and I can't seem to find how to put the masks into the mirror. What order is it supposed to be? Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 4:04 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? I've run win frotz with Hal, win frotz tts, and win tads. personally, I've always gone on what games I liked, rather than the interpreter. Thus my favourite games have been worlds apart and bable which were tads, dreamhold, the djini chronicles, pythos mask, lash and wearing the claw which were zcode, and then the earth and sky series which started in zcode, then moved into glulks. You can find them all by searching baffs' guide. As I said, I completed azteca, but thought it was okay, then started the pentori series on the basis that malinches' very aggressive promotional style (which actually i find to be rather irritating), and the fact that their a commercial company must have some basis in fact, but after getting stuck in the fireplace in the first pentori prequal (I had to actually E-mail malinch about that one), then getting practically nowhwere with the next pentori game, well lets just say i sort of lost interest. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: shaun everiss shau...@xtra.co.nz To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 9:52 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? hmmm I never actually figured out that game at all. actually the only stuff I have is lacuna and hmmm world of darkness I guess I could play tads games if using html tads now and I sertainly have these. I have futureboy but havn't found anything else I like for the hugo or blorg glulks interpriters I'd like to find a good real good frots interpreter though. I have tried winfrotztts and hmmm prefur my reader maybe I'll look round and see. At 06:17 a.m. 5/04/2010, you wrote: Dark: Well I am trying to figure out azteca and I got to embarrassing point of the jaguar room but can't figure out how to open the wall by the jaguar. I see it is very similar to muds and sometimes the concepts on how it works. I will ask questions as I run across them but it looks great so far. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 11:42 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Hi mike. No problem with traffic about if on this list, --- ask away. If you are a newby though, you could do much worse than checking out http://www.microheaven.com/IFGuide/step2.html which have a great beginners' guide. I'd also recommend you try the game dreamhold by andrew plotkin found at http://ifarchive.heanet.ie/if-archive/games/zcode/dreamhold.z8 you can run this with windows frotz, winfrotz (including the winfrotz tts version which outputs directly to sapi), or anything which plays z code game files. It's a really great story and adventure, but whats' more is it's probably the best introduction to If I've seen. there are various ones knocking about, but for a hands on in game intro going through how to give commands, and what puzles are, dreamhold is deffinately my favourite (not the least because it's an incredibly interesting game and story in it's own right). hth. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: mike maslo mmaslo1...@swbell.net To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 4:46 PM Subject: [Audyssey]
Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there?
Hi Dark, In regards to an earlier post of yours, I know what you mean. I was playing the zcode version of zork, and I had no idea how to enter the mirror to get to the door in the endgame. The walkthrough I had said enter the box. This did work at all. I found out that I had to simply type enter. That was a relief to finally figure out, though exasperating none the saime--I do like the way that one was combined from the three infocom zorks, and it doesn't hurt they added a bit here and there. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 3:22 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Hmmm, I can't recall azteca specifically, but remember how well you c an interact with game elements depends very much on how much of a brain the creator had. I spent ages trying to get through the fireplace in the pentory prequal, --- north, (sinse it was in the north wall), enter fire place you can't enter that when it turned out I had to type in, for the love of pete! I don't remember any such issue with azteca, but I will confess this business with the prequal, and the fact that I can make no headway whatsoever with the demo of the first game rather put me off malinch's stuff. As with regular fiction though, this just depends upon who wrote the game, and there is a lot more interactive fiction available than just malinches' stuff, check those links I sent in the previous message for starters, then have a look at http://www.wurb.com/if/ and search for something with good reviews that looks interesting. personally, I'd recommend stuff by emily short, paul obrian and aAndrew plotkin, but again this depends upon my personal preference for weerd exploritory fantasy stuff. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: mike maslo mmaslo1...@swbell.net To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 7:17 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Dark: Well I am trying to figure out azteca and I got to embarrassing point of the jaguar room but can't figure out how to open the wall by the jaguar. I see it is very similar to muds and sometimes the concepts on how it works. I will ask questions as I run across them but it looks great so far. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 11:42 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Hi mike. No problem with traffic about if on this list, --- ask away. If you are a newby though, you could do much worse than checking out http://www.microheaven.com/IFGuide/step2.html which have a great beginners' guide. I'd also recommend you try the game dreamhold by andrew plotkin found at http://ifarchive.heanet.ie/if-archive/games/zcode/dreamhold.z8 you can run this with windows frotz, winfrotz (including the winfrotz tts version which outputs directly to sapi), or anything which plays z code game files. It's a really great story and adventure, but whats' more is it's probably the best introduction to If I've seen. there are various ones knocking about, but for a hands on in game intro going through how to give commands, and what puzles are, dreamhold is deffinately my favourite (not the least because it's an incredibly interesting game and story in it's own right). hth. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: mike maslo mmaslo1...@swbell.net To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 4:46 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Hi List: Are there any interactive fiction fans out there? If so, can you please contact me off list? I would sincerely appreciate a newbie to this area some help and explanations and do not want to fill this list with more traffic. Thanks in advance. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you
Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there?
Dark: Thanks a lot for the links and will check them all out. Are all interactive fictions cost money or are there free stuff out there? -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 3:22 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Hmmm, I can't recall azteca specifically, but remember how well you c an interact with game elements depends very much on how much of a brain the creator had. I spent ages trying to get through the fireplace in the pentory prequal, --- north, (sinse it was in the north wall), enter fire place you can't enter that when it turned out I had to type in, for the love of pete! I don't remember any such issue with azteca, but I will confess this business with the prequal, and the fact that I can make no headway whatsoever with the demo of the first game rather put me off malinch's stuff. As with regular fiction though, this just depends upon who wrote the game, and there is a lot more interactive fiction available than just malinches' stuff, check those links I sent in the previous message for starters, then have a look at http://www.wurb.com/if/ and search for something with good reviews that looks interesting. personally, I'd recommend stuff by emily short, paul obrian and aAndrew plotkin, but again this depends upon my personal preference for weerd exploritory fantasy stuff. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: mike maslo mmaslo1...@swbell.net To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 7:17 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Dark: Well I am trying to figure out azteca and I got to embarrassing point of the jaguar room but can't figure out how to open the wall by the jaguar. I see it is very similar to muds and sometimes the concepts on how it works. I will ask questions as I run across them but it looks great so far. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 11:42 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Hi mike. No problem with traffic about if on this list, --- ask away. If you are a newby though, you could do much worse than checking out http://www.microheaven.com/IFGuide/step2.html which have a great beginners' guide. I'd also recommend you try the game dreamhold by andrew plotkin found at http://ifarchive.heanet.ie/if-archive/games/zcode/dreamhold.z8 you can run this with windows frotz, winfrotz (including the winfrotz tts version which outputs directly to sapi), or anything which plays z code game files. It's a really great story and adventure, but whats' more is it's probably the best introduction to If I've seen. there are various ones knocking about, but for a hands on in game intro going through how to give commands, and what puzles are, dreamhold is deffinately my favourite (not the least because it's an incredibly interesting game and story in it's own right). hth. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: mike maslo mmaslo1...@swbell.net To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 4:46 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Hi List: Are there any interactive fiction fans out there? If so, can you please contact me off list? I would sincerely appreciate a newbie to this area some help and explanations and do not want to fill this list with more traffic. Thanks in advance. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there?
Hi Mike, Most games, such as those found on the interactive fiction archive, are free to play. However, some of (or all of) the companies I've ever heard of that make these games end up charing a fee to play them, or in the Infocom/Level9 days, buying them on floppy disc. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of mike maslo Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 7:02 PM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Dark: Thanks a lot for the links and will check them all out. Are all interactive fictions cost money or are there free stuff out there? -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 3:22 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Hmmm, I can't recall azteca specifically, but remember how well you c an interact with game elements depends very much on how much of a brain the creator had. I spent ages trying to get through the fireplace in the pentory prequal, --- north, (sinse it was in the north wall), enter fire place you can't enter that when it turned out I had to type in, for the love of pete! I don't remember any such issue with azteca, but I will confess this business with the prequal, and the fact that I can make no headway whatsoever with the demo of the first game rather put me off malinch's stuff. As with regular fiction though, this just depends upon who wrote the game, and there is a lot more interactive fiction available than just malinches' stuff, check those links I sent in the previous message for starters, then have a look at http://www.wurb.com/if/ and search for something with good reviews that looks interesting. personally, I'd recommend stuff by emily short, paul obrian and aAndrew plotkin, but again this depends upon my personal preference for weerd exploritory fantasy stuff. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: mike maslo mmaslo1...@swbell.net To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 7:17 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Dark: Well I am trying to figure out azteca and I got to embarrassing point of the jaguar room but can't figure out how to open the wall by the jaguar. I see it is very similar to muds and sometimes the concepts on how it works. I will ask questions as I run across them but it looks great so far. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 11:42 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Hi mike. No problem with traffic about if on this list, --- ask away. If you are a newby though, you could do much worse than checking out http://www.microheaven.com/IFGuide/step2.html which have a great beginners' guide. I'd also recommend you try the game dreamhold by andrew plotkin found at http://ifarchive.heanet.ie/if-archive/games/zcode/dreamhold.z8 you can run this with windows frotz, winfrotz (including the winfrotz tts version which outputs directly to sapi), or anything which plays z code game files. It's a really great story and adventure, but whats' more is it's probably the best introduction to If I've seen. there are various ones knocking about, but for a hands on in game intro going through how to give commands, and what puzles are, dreamhold is deffinately my favourite (not the least because it's an incredibly interesting game and story in it's own right). hth. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: mike maslo mmaslo1...@swbell.net To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 4:46 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Hi List: Are there any interactive fiction fans out there? If so, can you please contact me off list? I would sincerely appreciate a newbie to this area some help and explanations and do not want to fill this list with more traffic. Thanks in advance. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at
Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there?
Hi Muhammed, A BrailleNote? What? All you need is a zcode interpreter. What humanware did was to creat an interpreter based on the JZip interpreter. That said, you can use filfre, or either of the frotz interpreters to play those games. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Muhammed Deniz Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 3:11 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Hi Mike, play dragon dot z5 or gurmay. Their are really cool games like that and you will enjoy them, plus dragon is much cool but you need a brail note in order to play those games. Do you love audio games? Would you like to chat about BGt a game creation tool for the blind? Do you need any tips or tricks on any sought of game? Do you need to ask questions about buying a game and help for the game? Well, this is the right place for you then! If you would like to joyn, just send a blank email to. audiogamesfortheblind+subscr...@googlegroups.com With the subject subscribe in the subject line. Contact infermation. email: muhamme...@googlemail.com msn: muhammed123...@hotmail.co.uk Skype: muhammed.deniz Klango username. muhammed - Original Message - From: mike maslo mmaslo1...@swbell.net To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 7:17 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Dark: Well I am trying to figure out azteca and I got to embarrassing point of the jaguar room but can't figure out how to open the wall by the jaguar. I see it is very similar to muds and sometimes the concepts on how it works. I will ask questions as I run across them but it looks great so far. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 11:42 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Hi mike. No problem with traffic about if on this list, --- ask away. If you are a newby though, you could do much worse than checking out http://www.microheaven.com/IFGuide/step2.html which have a great beginners' guide. I'd also recommend you try the game dreamhold by andrew plotkin found at http://ifarchive.heanet.ie/if-archive/games/zcode/dreamhold.z8 you can run this with windows frotz, winfrotz (including the winfrotz tts version which outputs directly to sapi), or anything which plays z code game files. It's a really great story and adventure, but whats' more is it's probably the best introduction to If I've seen. there are various ones knocking about, but for a hands on in game intro going through how to give commands, and what puzles are, dreamhold is deffinately my favourite (not the least because it's an incredibly interesting game and story in it's own right). hth. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: mike maslo mmaslo1...@swbell.net To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 4:46 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Hi List: Are there any interactive fiction fans out there? If so, can you please contact me off list? I would sincerely appreciate a newbie to this area some help and explanations and do not want to fill this list with more traffic. Thanks in advance. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __
Re: [Audyssey] kringle crash help.
Who's grabbed 80 gifts? Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Muhammed Deniz Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 7:57 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] kringle crash help. Hey all, could someone please help me with kringle crash? I only grab 40 gifts or something and I can't grab anything like 80 gifts. I really tri my best to get the gifts but the elves are over their and they block my way, but also I have 4 minuts to get the gifts.any help on this? Do you love audio games? Would you like to chat about BGt a game creation tool for the blind? Do you need any tips or tricks on any sought of game? Do you need to ask questions about buying a game and help for the game? Well, this is the right place for you then! If you would like to joyn, just send a blank email to. audiogamesfortheblind+subscr...@googlegroups.com With the subject subscribe in the subject line. Contact infermation. email: muhamme...@googlemail.com msn: muhammed123...@hotmail.co.uk Skype: muhammed.deniz Klango username. muhammed --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there?
hi. I can't remember precisely but They correspond to the life of the wizard according to what vision they show when you wear them. so it's the white one first, and the black one at the end, for the middle ones, just try and piece the story together. If you get it wrong, just sit down in the chair to get them back. Hth. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 12:42 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Hi Dark, I've ben playing the dreamhold for awhile now myself, and I can't seem to find how to put the masks into the mirror. What order is it supposed to be? Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 4:04 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? I've run win frotz with Hal, win frotz tts, and win tads. personally, I've always gone on what games I liked, rather than the interpreter. Thus my favourite games have been worlds apart and bable which were tads, dreamhold, the djini chronicles, pythos mask, lash and wearing the claw which were zcode, and then the earth and sky series which started in zcode, then moved into glulks. You can find them all by searching baffs' guide. As I said, I completed azteca, but thought it was okay, then started the pentori series on the basis that malinches' very aggressive promotional style (which actually i find to be rather irritating), and the fact that their a commercial company must have some basis in fact, but after getting stuck in the fireplace in the first pentori prequal (I had to actually E-mail malinch about that one), then getting practically nowhwere with the next pentori game, well lets just say i sort of lost interest. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: shaun everiss shau...@xtra.co.nz To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 9:52 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? hmmm I never actually figured out that game at all. actually the only stuff I have is lacuna and hmmm world of darkness I guess I could play tads games if using html tads now and I sertainly have these. I have futureboy but havn't found anything else I like for the hugo or blorg glulks interpriters I'd like to find a good real good frots interpreter though. I have tried winfrotztts and hmmm prefur my reader maybe I'll look round and see. At 06:17 a.m. 5/04/2010, you wrote: Dark: Well I am trying to figure out azteca and I got to embarrassing point of the jaguar room but can't figure out how to open the wall by the jaguar. I see it is very similar to muds and sometimes the concepts on how it works. I will ask questions as I run across them but it looks great so far. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 11:42 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Hi mike. No problem with traffic about if on this list, --- ask away. If you are a newby though, you could do much worse than checking out http://www.microheaven.com/IFGuide/step2.html which have a great beginners' guide. I'd also recommend you try the game dreamhold by andrew plotkin found at http://ifarchive.heanet.ie/if-archive/games/zcode/dreamhold.z8 you can run this with windows frotz, winfrotz (including the winfrotz tts version which outputs directly to sapi), or anything which plays z code game files. It's a really great story and adventure, but whats' more is it's probably the best introduction to If I've seen. there are various ones knocking about, but for a hands on in game intro going through how to give commands, and what puzles are, dreamhold is deffinately my favourite (not the least because it's an incredibly interesting game and story in it's own right). hth. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: mike maslo mmaslo1...@swbell.net To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 4:46 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Hi List: Are there any interactive fiction fans out there? If so, can you please contact me off list? I would sincerely appreciate a newbie to this area some help and explanations and do not want to fill this list with more traffic. Thanks in advance. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have
Re: [Audyssey] help with audio bgt tutorial
Hi, Another way is to open it in Windows Media player, then choose save as. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Jeremy Hartley Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 6:24 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] help with audio bgt tutorial Hi. You will want to right click on the link for the audio tutorial. The right click can also be performed with the applications key or shift+F10. Then, select save target as if you are in internet explorer, or save link as if you are in firefox. Jeremy - Original Message - From: Chastity MORSE chastitymo...@msn.com To: Gamers Discussion list Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 2:05 PM Subject: [Audyssey] help with audio bgt tutorial Hi, I tried to download the audio tutorial for the bgt game creation thing, but can't find it. It's not in any of my MP3 folders and when I hit the link to download it, I never got a download screen for save, open, or download later, or a save as or save in choice. What am I doing wrong or is the audio tutorial only for the paid full version of the game kit? Chastity --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4997 (20100403) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] idea for pac man
Hi Michael, What would you put in it? Main menus are only worth putting if there's something worthwhile to put in them, otherwise you waste computer resources and programming time. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of michael barnes Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 4:17 PM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] idea for pac man i think that in the pac man game there should be a main menu on the game instead of just starting the game up -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there?
To be honest haiden, I never got on well with zork, but then again I personally prefer if games which have more background than just go into the dungeon and grab treasures and more than random puzles. In fact I must admit, some if puzles just irritate me for their total lack of logic. ah, so I was supposed to open the catch on the rusty door by blowing the whistle at the bird to scare it off, getting the egg from the nest, then droping the newspaper and twigs on the floor and using the magnifying glass to focus sunlight, then putting the dustbin lid ontop, dropping in the egg, frying it and using it to greace the rusty latch! how silly of me not to realize that perfectly rational change of logic! I must confess this is why I don't really play much If anymore, sinse it's too much trouble to try and filter the to me, interesting exploration and story based stuff from all the games based on absurd puzles which i then need to look at a walkthrough to guess. Of course, this might just be because I'm probably more inclined toward rpgs and that style of play myself in general, and didn't grown up with the classic if or get into the method of playing it. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 1:01 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Hi Dark, In regards to an earlier post of yours, I know what you mean. I was playing the zcode version of zork, and I had no idea how to enter the mirror to get to the door in the endgame. The walkthrough I had said enter the box. This did work at all. I found out that I had to simply type enter. That was a relief to finally figure out, though exasperating none the saime--I do like the way that one was combined from the three infocom zorks, and it doesn't hurt they added a bit here and there. Best Regards, Hayden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there?
Actually mike, it's malinch who are the exception, being as apart from them and futureboy, everything else is free, and taken over entirely by if enthusiasts. The only reason they don't get pages on audiogames.net is that there are literally thousands of games available, so I just give links to the correct format games for the interpreters. Check out the baffs' guide link for details, reviews and such. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: mike maslo mmaslo1...@swbell.net To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 1:01 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Dark: Thanks a lot for the links and will check them all out. Are all interactive fictions cost money or are there free stuff out there? -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 3:22 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Hmmm, I can't recall azteca specifically, but remember how well you c an interact with game elements depends very much on how much of a brain the creator had. I spent ages trying to get through the fireplace in the pentory prequal, --- north, (sinse it was in the north wall), enter fire place you can't enter that when it turned out I had to type in, for the love of pete! I don't remember any such issue with azteca, but I will confess this business with the prequal, and the fact that I can make no headway whatsoever with the demo of the first game rather put me off malinch's stuff. As with regular fiction though, this just depends upon who wrote the game, and there is a lot more interactive fiction available than just malinches' stuff, check those links I sent in the previous message for starters, then have a look at http://www.wurb.com/if/ and search for something with good reviews that looks interesting. personally, I'd recommend stuff by emily short, paul obrian and aAndrew plotkin, but again this depends upon my personal preference for weerd exploritory fantasy stuff. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: mike maslo mmaslo1...@swbell.net To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 7:17 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Dark: Well I am trying to figure out azteca and I got to embarrassing point of the jaguar room but can't figure out how to open the wall by the jaguar. I see it is very similar to muds and sometimes the concepts on how it works. I will ask questions as I run across them but it looks great so far. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 11:42 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Hi mike. No problem with traffic about if on this list, --- ask away. If you are a newby though, you could do much worse than checking out http://www.microheaven.com/IFGuide/step2.html which have a great beginners' guide. I'd also recommend you try the game dreamhold by andrew plotkin found at http://ifarchive.heanet.ie/if-archive/games/zcode/dreamhold.z8 you can run this with windows frotz, winfrotz (including the winfrotz tts version which outputs directly to sapi), or anything which plays z code game files. It's a really great story and adventure, but whats' more is it's probably the best introduction to If I've seen. there are various ones knocking about, but for a hands on in game intro going through how to give commands, and what puzles are, dreamhold is deffinately my favourite (not the least because it's an incredibly interesting game and story in it's own right). hth. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: mike maslo mmaslo1...@swbell.net To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 4:46 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Hi List: Are there any interactive fiction fans out there? If so, can you please contact me off list? I would sincerely appreciate a newbie to this area some help and explanations and do not want to fill this list with more traffic. Thanks in advance. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update
Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there?
When I go to the archive where do I go to find the games? I see a bunch of stuff but not sure of where to go to download these games. Thanks in advance. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Hayden Presley Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 7:05 PM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Hi Mike, Most games, such as those found on the interactive fiction archive, are free to play. However, some of (or all of) the companies I've ever heard of that make these games end up charing a fee to play them, or in the Infocom/Level9 days, buying them on floppy disc. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of mike maslo Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 7:02 PM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Dark: Thanks a lot for the links and will check them all out. Are all interactive fictions cost money or are there free stuff out there? -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 3:22 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Hmmm, I can't recall azteca specifically, but remember how well you c an interact with game elements depends very much on how much of a brain the creator had. I spent ages trying to get through the fireplace in the pentory prequal, --- north, (sinse it was in the north wall), enter fire place you can't enter that when it turned out I had to type in, for the love of pete! I don't remember any such issue with azteca, but I will confess this business with the prequal, and the fact that I can make no headway whatsoever with the demo of the first game rather put me off malinch's stuff. As with regular fiction though, this just depends upon who wrote the game, and there is a lot more interactive fiction available than just malinches' stuff, check those links I sent in the previous message for starters, then have a look at http://www.wurb.com/if/ and search for something with good reviews that looks interesting. personally, I'd recommend stuff by emily short, paul obrian and aAndrew plotkin, but again this depends upon my personal preference for weerd exploritory fantasy stuff. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: mike maslo mmaslo1...@swbell.net To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 7:17 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Dark: Well I am trying to figure out azteca and I got to embarrassing point of the jaguar room but can't figure out how to open the wall by the jaguar. I see it is very similar to muds and sometimes the concepts on how it works. I will ask questions as I run across them but it looks great so far. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 11:42 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Hi mike. No problem with traffic about if on this list, --- ask away. If you are a newby though, you could do much worse than checking out http://www.microheaven.com/IFGuide/step2.html which have a great beginners' guide. I'd also recommend you try the game dreamhold by andrew plotkin found at http://ifarchive.heanet.ie/if-archive/games/zcode/dreamhold.z8 you can run this with windows frotz, winfrotz (including the winfrotz tts version which outputs directly to sapi), or anything which plays z code game files. It's a really great story and adventure, but whats' more is it's probably the best introduction to If I've seen. there are various ones knocking about, but for a hands on in game intro going through how to give commands, and what puzles are, dreamhold is deffinately my favourite (not the least because it's an incredibly interesting game and story in it's own right). hth. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: mike maslo mmaslo1...@swbell.net To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 4:46 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Hi List: Are there any interactive fiction fans out there? If so, can you please contact me off list? I would sincerely appreciate a newbie to this area some help and explanations and do not want to fill this list with more traffic. Thanks in advance. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and
Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there?
Hi, You go to walkthrough here to enter the ifarchive. After that, there's a directory tree you have to navigate; it depends on what you want--the site is quite large and all I can say is you'll have to experiment. What are you looking for, I may be able to find it quickly for you? Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of mike maslo Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 8:15 PM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? When I go to the archive where do I go to find the games? I see a bunch of stuff but not sure of where to go to download these games. Thanks in advance. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Hayden Presley Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 7:05 PM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Hi Mike, Most games, such as those found on the interactive fiction archive, are free to play. However, some of (or all of) the companies I've ever heard of that make these games end up charing a fee to play them, or in the Infocom/Level9 days, buying them on floppy disc. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of mike maslo Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 7:02 PM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Dark: Thanks a lot for the links and will check them all out. Are all interactive fictions cost money or are there free stuff out there? -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 3:22 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Hmmm, I can't recall azteca specifically, but remember how well you c an interact with game elements depends very much on how much of a brain the creator had. I spent ages trying to get through the fireplace in the pentory prequal, --- north, (sinse it was in the north wall), enter fire place you can't enter that when it turned out I had to type in, for the love of pete! I don't remember any such issue with azteca, but I will confess this business with the prequal, and the fact that I can make no headway whatsoever with the demo of the first game rather put me off malinch's stuff. As with regular fiction though, this just depends upon who wrote the game, and there is a lot more interactive fiction available than just malinches' stuff, check those links I sent in the previous message for starters, then have a look at http://www.wurb.com/if/ and search for something with good reviews that looks interesting. personally, I'd recommend stuff by emily short, paul obrian and aAndrew plotkin, but again this depends upon my personal preference for weerd exploritory fantasy stuff. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: mike maslo mmaslo1...@swbell.net To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 7:17 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Dark: Well I am trying to figure out azteca and I got to embarrassing point of the jaguar room but can't figure out how to open the wall by the jaguar. I see it is very similar to muds and sometimes the concepts on how it works. I will ask questions as I run across them but it looks great so far. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 11:42 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Hi mike. No problem with traffic about if on this list, --- ask away. If you are a newby though, you could do much worse than checking out http://www.microheaven.com/IFGuide/step2.html which have a great beginners' guide. I'd also recommend you try the game dreamhold by andrew plotkin found at http://ifarchive.heanet.ie/if-archive/games/zcode/dreamhold.z8 you can run this with windows frotz, winfrotz (including the winfrotz tts version which outputs directly to sapi), or anything which plays z code game files. It's a really great story and adventure, but whats' more is it's probably the best introduction to If I've seen. there are various ones knocking about, but for a hands on in game intro going through how to give commands, and what puzles are, dreamhold is deffinately my favourite (not the least because it's an incredibly interesting game and story in it's own right). hth. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: mike maslo mmaslo1...@swbell.net To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 4:46 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out
Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there?
Hi Dark, Lol! I like your rusty latch puzzle...that's very infocomy. Two puzzles that have always stumped me as for logic are the royal puzzle and the robbing the bank puzzle. The royal puzzle makes sense, sure...if you can picture the entire thing, but the bank puzzle is completely and totally illogical. I must admit that most of my experience with even the easiest of Infocom IF was started by perusing the entire walk through. Particulary the Zork/Enchanter games which I always found very puzzling. Mazes were never my thing either. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 7:32 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? To be honest haiden, I never got on well with zork, but then again I personally prefer if games which have more background than just go into the dungeon and grab treasures and more than random puzles. In fact I must admit, some if puzles just irritate me for their total lack of logic. ah, so I was supposed to open the catch on the rusty door by blowing the whistle at the bird to scare it off, getting the egg from the nest, then droping the newspaper and twigs on the floor and using the magnifying glass to focus sunlight, then putting the dustbin lid ontop, dropping in the egg, frying it and using it to greace the rusty latch! how silly of me not to realize that perfectly rational change of logic! I must confess this is why I don't really play much If anymore, sinse it's too much trouble to try and filter the to me, interesting exploration and story based stuff from all the games based on absurd puzles which i then need to look at a walkthrough to guess. Of course, this might just be because I'm probably more inclined toward rpgs and that style of play myself in general, and didn't grown up with the classic if or get into the method of playing it. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 1:01 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Hi Dark, In regards to an earlier post of yours, I know what you mean. I was playing the zcode version of zork, and I had no idea how to enter the mirror to get to the door in the endgame. The walkthrough I had said enter the box. This did work at all. I found out that I had to simply type enter. That was a relief to finally figure out, though exasperating none the saime--I do like the way that one was combined from the three infocom zorks, and it doesn't hurt they added a bit here and there. Best Regards, Hayden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] AceFire Question
Hi Damien, Considering that easter is based off of the lunar calendar rather than the more traditional gregorion calendar, how do you have AceFire say happy easter every year? Best Regards, Hayden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there?
Hi mike. The archive itslef it a big fat file dump with indexes. to find games with a propper search feature, and reviews and such, go to http://www.wurb.com/if/ then look up worlds apart, dreamhold, bable dragon or whatever. Hth. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: mike maslo mmaslo1...@swbell.net To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 2:14 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? When I go to the archive where do I go to find the games? I see a bunch of stuff but not sure of where to go to download these games. Thanks in advance. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Hayden Presley Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 7:05 PM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Hi Mike, Most games, such as those found on the interactive fiction archive, are free to play. However, some of (or all of) the companies I've ever heard of that make these games end up charing a fee to play them, or in the Infocom/Level9 days, buying them on floppy disc. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of mike maslo Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 7:02 PM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Dark: Thanks a lot for the links and will check them all out. Are all interactive fictions cost money or are there free stuff out there? -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 3:22 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Hmmm, I can't recall azteca specifically, but remember how well you c an interact with game elements depends very much on how much of a brain the creator had. I spent ages trying to get through the fireplace in the pentory prequal, --- north, (sinse it was in the north wall), enter fire place you can't enter that when it turned out I had to type in, for the love of pete! I don't remember any such issue with azteca, but I will confess this business with the prequal, and the fact that I can make no headway whatsoever with the demo of the first game rather put me off malinch's stuff. As with regular fiction though, this just depends upon who wrote the game, and there is a lot more interactive fiction available than just malinches' stuff, check those links I sent in the previous message for starters, then have a look at http://www.wurb.com/if/ and search for something with good reviews that looks interesting. personally, I'd recommend stuff by emily short, paul obrian and aAndrew plotkin, but again this depends upon my personal preference for weerd exploritory fantasy stuff. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: mike maslo mmaslo1...@swbell.net To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 7:17 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Dark: Well I am trying to figure out azteca and I got to embarrassing point of the jaguar room but can't figure out how to open the wall by the jaguar. I see it is very similar to muds and sometimes the concepts on how it works. I will ask questions as I run across them but it looks great so far. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 11:42 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Hi mike. No problem with traffic about if on this list, --- ask away. If you are a newby though, you could do much worse than checking out http://www.microheaven.com/IFGuide/step2.html which have a great beginners' guide. I'd also recommend you try the game dreamhold by andrew plotkin found at http://ifarchive.heanet.ie/if-archive/games/zcode/dreamhold.z8 you can run this with windows frotz, winfrotz (including the winfrotz tts version which outputs directly to sapi), or anything which plays z code game files. It's a really great story and adventure, but whats' more is it's probably the best introduction to If I've seen. there are various ones knocking about, but for a hands on in game intro going through how to give commands, and what puzles are, dreamhold is deffinately my favourite (not the least because it's an incredibly interesting game and story in it's own right). hth. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: mike maslo mmaslo1...@swbell.net To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 4:46 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Hi List: Are there any interactive fiction fans out there? If so, can you please contact me off list? I would
Re: [Audyssey] Second life
I don't think it'll ever be possible for us to Truely play in SL. We can join, login, walk around and chat, but that's pretty much it; we can't do the extreme range of activities sighted people have. On Apr 4, 2010, at 7:42 PM, Lindsay Cowell wrote: Is it possible for us to play second life yet, and what will I need to play it? Lindsay Cowell --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] messege to dark
hey man i also notice that some times the game take alittle time to come up when i select it from my desktop. -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there?
I am looking for any type of mystery book or game. That is my favorite or horror too. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Hayden Presley Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 9:36 PM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Hi, You go to walkthrough here to enter the ifarchive. After that, there's a directory tree you have to navigate; it depends on what you want--the site is quite large and all I can say is you'll have to experiment. What are you looking for, I may be able to find it quickly for you? Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of mike maslo Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 8:15 PM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? When I go to the archive where do I go to find the games? I see a bunch of stuff but not sure of where to go to download these games. Thanks in advance. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Hayden Presley Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 7:05 PM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Hi Mike, Most games, such as those found on the interactive fiction archive, are free to play. However, some of (or all of) the companies I've ever heard of that make these games end up charing a fee to play them, or in the Infocom/Level9 days, buying them on floppy disc. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of mike maslo Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 7:02 PM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Dark: Thanks a lot for the links and will check them all out. Are all interactive fictions cost money or are there free stuff out there? -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 3:22 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Hmmm, I can't recall azteca specifically, but remember how well you c an interact with game elements depends very much on how much of a brain the creator had. I spent ages trying to get through the fireplace in the pentory prequal, --- north, (sinse it was in the north wall), enter fire place you can't enter that when it turned out I had to type in, for the love of pete! I don't remember any such issue with azteca, but I will confess this business with the prequal, and the fact that I can make no headway whatsoever with the demo of the first game rather put me off malinch's stuff. As with regular fiction though, this just depends upon who wrote the game, and there is a lot more interactive fiction available than just malinches' stuff, check those links I sent in the previous message for starters, then have a look at http://www.wurb.com/if/ and search for something with good reviews that looks interesting. personally, I'd recommend stuff by emily short, paul obrian and aAndrew plotkin, but again this depends upon my personal preference for weerd exploritory fantasy stuff. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: mike maslo mmaslo1...@swbell.net To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 7:17 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Dark: Well I am trying to figure out azteca and I got to embarrassing point of the jaguar room but can't figure out how to open the wall by the jaguar. I see it is very similar to muds and sometimes the concepts on how it works. I will ask questions as I run across them but it looks great so far. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 11:42 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Hi mike. No problem with traffic about if on this list, --- ask away. If you are a newby though, you could do much worse than checking out http://www.microheaven.com/IFGuide/step2.html which have a great beginners' guide. I'd also recommend you try the game dreamhold by andrew plotkin found at http://ifarchive.heanet.ie/if-archive/games/zcode/dreamhold.z8 you can run this with windows frotz, winfrotz (including the winfrotz tts version which outputs directly to sapi), or anything which plays z code game files. It's a really great story and adventure, but whats' more is it's probably the best introduction to If I've seen. there are various ones knocking about, but for a hands on in game intro going through how to give commands, and what puzles are, dreamhold is deffinately my
[Audyssey] something for all of you gamers
have any of you ever wanted to use a controller for some of these games that was only made to play with the keyboard? well here is something that might interest you all. if you go to google and search for joy2key you can get a free program that will let you use your controller for keyboard games. here is exsample i got entombed and as you all know it is a keyboard game only but with joy2key it let you use your controller to play the game. here what it does it basically let you assign keys to the controller you want to use. this don't just work with games it also work with other programs. check it out i enjoy useing joy2key to play some of my games that was only meant for the keyboard. especially entombed because it gives me the feel of a great rpg that it is. -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] someone please help
for some reason my arrow keys work in all the menu of entombed but it won't move my character. what could this be causing this? -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.