Re: [Audyssey] Some Extremely Sad News
I am so sorry to hear this Thomas. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 5:12 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Some Extremely Sad News Dear list, I regret to inform you that there has been a very very tragic death in my family this weekend. Last night my mom called me and told me that my oldest step sister died under extremely tragic circomstances. At this point in time the police are ruling it out is a suicide. To say that this comes as a shocking suprise for the family and is very sad is an understatement. Although, my step sister and I were never close I still feel sad and extremely disappointed in how she chose to end her life. I feel extremely sorry for my neace who will be cellibrating this and every other Christmas without her mother. I also feel deeply sorry for my step father who lost a daughter, and my surviving step sisters who lost one of their sisters. For them Christmas will never ever be the same. For those of you who have faith in a religious background please pray for them in this time of morning and grief. Also pray for my step sister that perhaps she can find happiness in death that she never could in this life time. Moreover, never forget to tell your closest ffriends, family, and other loved ones that you love them. Remember that there is nothing more precious than life, and that no matter how bad life gets at times that taking your own life without a good cause is the greatest tragity of all. Finally, I wish to leave you with something that I learned from this experience. Remember to forgive those who have wronged you, and try to make, if possible, peace with everyone that you can. Especially, those who are your family and friends. Nothing is more tragic than what happened in my sisters' case. I'm not going to get into details and specifics, but one thing I can say is that my oldest sister was troubled. In her death she left behind a lot of unsettled arguments with my step father, my younger step sisters, her grandparents, and things were said in the heat of the moment to each other that can never be taken back or settled in this life time. My youngest step sister, for example, vowed never to see my oldest step sister again in this life time, and now, of course, she never will. My youngest step sister has to live with the guilt of allowing her personal feelings get in the way of making peace with her sister when she could have. Moreover, she now realises she wasn't there for her sister when she went over the emotional brink and took her own life when she needed her family, her loved ones, more than ever. So the lesson I want to pass on to each and every single one of you is don't let your anger, your personal differences, etc go so far that you have to live each and every day of your life regretting the things you have said and done. Make your peace while you have time, and tell those you love that you love them. Let them know you care regardless of how angry you might be at them. You will never know when tomorrow is simply too late to say, "I'm sorry. I love you." --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Some Extremely Sad News
Hello Thomas sorry about your step sister just prayed for you and family and I hope you have a good Christmas and a happy new year, know this that you will see her again in Heaven and God is with her. On 12/19/2010 1:12 PM, Thomas Ward wrote: Dear list, I regret to inform you that there has been a very very tragic death in my family this weekend. Last night my mom called me and told me that my oldest step sister died under extremely tragic circomstances. At this point in time the police are ruling it out is a suicide. To say that this comes as a shocking suprise for the family and is very sad is an understatement. Although, my step sister and I were never close I still feel sad and extremely disappointed in how she chose to end her life. I feel extremely sorry for my neace who will be cellibrating this and every other Christmas without her mother. I also feel deeply sorry for my step father who lost a daughter, and my surviving step sisters who lost one of their sisters. For them Christmas will never ever be the same. For those of you who have faith in a religious background please pray for them in this time of morning and grief. Also pray for my step sister that perhaps she can find happiness in death that she never could in this life time. Moreover, never forget to tell your closest ffriends, family, and other loved ones that you love them. Remember that there is nothing more precious than life, and that no matter how bad life gets at times that taking your own life without a good cause is the greatest tragity of all. Finally, I wish to leave you with something that I learned from this experience. Remember to forgive those who have wronged you, and try to make, if possible, peace with everyone that you can. Especially, those who are your family and friends. Nothing is more tragic than what happened in my sisters' case. I'm not going to get into details and specifics, but one thing I can say is that my oldest sister was troubled. In her death she left behind a lot of unsettled arguments with my step father, my younger step sisters, her grandparents, and things were said in the heat of the moment to each other that can never be taken back or settled in this life time. My youngest step sister, for example, vowed never to see my oldest step sister again in this life time, and now, of course, she never will. My youngest step sister has to live with the guilt of allowing her personal feelings get in the way of making peace with her sister when she could have. Moreover, she now realises she wasn't there for her sister when she went over the emotional brink and took her own life when she needed her family, her loved ones, more than ever. So the lesson I want to pass on to each and every single one of you is don't let your anger, your personal differences, etc go so far that you have to live each and every day of your life regretting the things you have said and done. Make your peace while you have time, and tell those you love that you love them. Let them know you care regardless of how angry you might be at them. You will never know when tomorrow is simply too late to say, "I'm sorry. I love you." --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. -- Jason known as BlindFury --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Registration features of BGT
ROFL! OK OK it sounds bad but it's supposed to be simpler than it sounds. You create your account on the website. That process consists of submitting your paypal or credit card id to be charged. Then you just type the user name and password into the program after you launch it and go check your email and reply to the confirmation. For subsequent installations, so for installing it on different computers or reinstalling on a formatted computer, the account is already created so all that is done is the program is installed, launched, user name and password given, then open the email to verify within 24 hours so it won't be locked down again. Are you sure I shouldn't tell FS about this? It might be simpler than what they use right now... Rofl. No, actually, isn't the JAWS registration system such a pain in the butt? Especially when you have a computer that keeps on coming unregistered for goodness knows what reason and won't stay registered no matter what you try? On 12/19/2010 7:58 PM, Hayden Presley wrote: Hi, Holy crow! Do me a favor and make sure FS doesn't hear about that. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Valiant8086 Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 5:41 PM To: Philip Bennefall; Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registration features of BGT I've been wondering if the online registration couldn't be the more secure option if you were paranoid. 1. The system would require an account creation which would mean a user name and password. A. Creating an account would be required from within a web browser. Account creation would ask for user name, password, email, telephone number, and information used to charge the customer for the product. B. Email verification would be required. Just reply to the email received. C. Account creation would be automatic, the money charge would be completed upon account creation. 2. The program itself would run in restricted mode without user name or password having been given when the program was launched. Similar to GMA Games. 3. If the user typed in the user name, pressed tab, typed the password, pressed enter when the program was first launched, the program would check if the account was valid and if there were any more allowed registrations in the event that there were a limit. If both checks returned positive the program would: A. unlock the full functionality B. If registration limits were imposed, remove one allowed registration. c. Call a function on the central server which would Send both the account holder and the game creator an email notifying that the program had been registered on a new machine. The email sent to the account holder would inform that person that they must reply to the email within 24 hours verifying that the registration had been legitimate. 4. If the notification email sent to the account holder did not receive a reply within 24 hours, the unlock would be reverted back to demo next time the program connected to the server. 5. Given condition number 4, the program would always quietly attempt to contact the server when it was launched. The way to crack this in the most simple way would be to: A. Have the person who gave you the user name and password reply to their email to verify your legality in registering your copy of the program, or, b. have the person give you the user name and password, then never be online while starting the program. 6. In an attempt to vix the problems addressed in number 5, have the program lock itself if it were unable to contact the server in two subsequent launches maybe? 7. Additionally, the game creator would be able to access the user profile, seeing their user name, email address and telephone number. The developer could revoke one or all registrations. The revoke would only work when the person happened to be online as they started the program. Ok. It's an overly dramatic, complicated sounding deviation from option 3 in your orriginal list of suggestions. Additionally, I soundly doubt that as a programmer I would have the patience to handle the coding and server side developing required to facilitate such a setup. Aside from that, it sounds like an almost simple, easy way to go about this. Just enter your user name, your password, then go check your email and reply to the confirmation email. You could even enter your user name and password every time you launched the program after the 24 hour unlock. Right, so I gave my oppinion, but I don't believe I like my own oppinion now. It'd just cause headaches like options 2 and 3 would, and even if all of the conditions were checked, you could still just reenter the user name and password you had for another full day. And a lot of games won't keep on lasting much longer than a day for some people. On 12/19/2010 2:45 AM, Philip Bennefall wrote: Hi all, The release of BGT 1.0 is drawing near, and I am currently working on the reg
[Audyssey] racing game on iphone
men it would be awsome if their was a accessible racing game on the iphone. where you would use the phone as your steering wheel and the bottom of the screen could be the brake and gas buttons. the other thing about a game like this you would not need to see the screen it could be for both totally blind and fully sighted people. by the way is their accessible football game? and and full baseball game. -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Some Extremely Sad News
Sorry to hear about what's happened... but my prayers and my heart reach out for you. Hang in there, Tom. I don't have much to say, but I do hope things get better. At 07:09 PM 19/12/2010, you wrote: Hi Tom, Not the religious type here, so I can't offer much in the way of prayers, but it looks like you've got quite a few of those on the way already. Just wanted to chime in and say that I hope the festive season doesn't put you and yours through the ringer too much this year. From memory, I think you have a young son right? That "like a kid at Christmas" saying is there for a reason, he'll be a little ball of energy whatever happens so long as Crimbo is on the TV and in the neighbours windows. Focus on him, it'll help. Outpourings of sympathy won't actually change anything, but shout if there's anything I or we can do other than keep sending you positivity in whichever way we each subscribe too. Chin up bud... Scott On 12/20/10, Allison Mervis wrote: > Dear Thomas, > I am so sorry for your loss. My thoughts and prayers are with you and your > family during this difficult time. > Allison > http://www.allisonmervis.com/ > > > -Original Message- > From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On > Behalf Of Thomas Ward > Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 1:13 PM > To: Gamers Discussion list > Subject: [Audyssey] Some Extremely Sad News > > Dear list, > > I regret to inform you that there has been a very very tragic death in my > family this weekend. Last night my mom called me and told me that my oldest > step sister died under extremely tragic circomstances. At this point in time > the police are ruling it out is a suicide. To say that this comes as a > shocking suprise for the family and is very sad is an understatement. > > Although, my step sister and I were never close I still feel sad and > extremely disappointed in how she chose to end her life. I feel extremely > sorry for my neace who will be cellibrating this and every other Christmas > without her mother. I also feel deeply sorry for my step father who lost a > daughter, and my surviving step sisters who lost one of their sisters. For > them Christmas will never ever be the same. For those of you who have faith > in a religious background please pray for them in this time of morning and > grief. Also pray for my step sister that perhaps she can find happiness in > death that she never could in this life time. Moreover, never forget to tell > your closest ffriends, family, and other loved ones that you love them. > Remember that there is nothing more precious than life, and that no matter > how bad life gets at times that taking your own life without a good cause is > the greatest tragity of all. > > Finally, I wish to leave you with something that I learned from this > experience. Remember to forgive those who have wronged you, and try to make, > if possible, peace with everyone that you can. Especially, those who are > your family and friends. Nothing is more tragic than what happened in my > sisters' case. > > I'm not going to get into details and specifics, but one thing I can say is > that my oldest sister was troubled. In her death she left behind a lot of > unsettled arguments with my step father, my younger step sisters, her > grandparents, and things were said in the heat of the moment to each other > that can never be taken back or settled in this life time. My youngest step > sister, for example, vowed never to see my oldest step sister again in this > life time, and now, of course, she never will. My youngest step sister has > to live with the guilt of allowing her personal feelings get in the way of > making peace with her sister when she could have. Moreover, she now realises > she wasn't there for her sister when she went over the emotional brink and > took her own life when she needed her family, her loved ones, more than > ever. > > So the lesson I want to pass on to each and every single one of you is don't > let your anger, your personal differences, etc go so far that you have to > live each and every day of your life regretting the things you have said and > done. Make your peace while you have time, and tell those you love that you > love them. Let them know you care regardless of how angry you might be at > them. You will never know when tomorrow is simply too late to say, "I'm > sorry. I love you." > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, > send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the l
[Audyssey] RS Games Client Patch
Hello All, We have released a patch. Here is what we have changed: -Speech interrupting itself on Mac OSX. Speech should work well now. Rate can still be adjusted with Command+Right/Left -You can now move to the top and bottom of checklist menus with the left and right arrow keys, as in normal menus. -You can now use hotkeys from within checklist menus. -You can now select all items in a checklist with CTRL+Space (Command+Space on the Mac) and de-select all items with Shift+Space -Fixed a bug where the client would speak "Invalid choice" after downloading sounds You can download it from www.rsgames.co.nr Enjoy! -Ryan --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Some Extremely Sad News
Hi there. I am so sorry for your loss. In august a really good friend of 7 years was murdered in his own home in a very well-to-do area of Melbourne Australia, we first met on a chat room, he had a barber's shop, and I'd go and get my hair cut there. Let me share a story with you. While not directly game related, I was in a chat room and I was talking 1 on 1 with some guy about something I don't remember what. When I told him about how I am totally blind he asked if I was serious and I said Yes. The next thing I knew he starts calling me every nasty name under the sun he can think of. Go away you blind retard, you pathetic freak, Hey guys, this blind (expletive) wants to talk to me. Well, I think you get the idea. Then his friend joined in the attack. Peter saw what was happening and quickly put an end to it. The only reason those 2 people stopped attacking me was because they were one of the many people who visited Peter's shop, a lot of people looked up to him, and he had a very strong sence of right and wrong and if he saw someone getting ganged up on, he'd speak out about it and They did not want to end up in Peter's bad books. It always seems that the bad things happen to good people as it did with Peter, we shared many good times together and I will always remember what a decent person he was. At 12:51 PM 12/20/2010, you wrote: Will pray for them Thomas. Really sorry to hear the news. - Original Message - From: "Mike Maslo" To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 1:18 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Some Extremely Sad News Thomas: Let me say that I fully agree with every word you have said. A loved one I am extremely close to lost her mother this past Tuesday and those things you said hit home for her and the family. My thoughts and prayers go to you and the entire family and those who were affected by this tragedy. May God bless each and every one on the list. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 12:13 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] Some Extremely Sad News Dear list, I regret to inform you that there has been a very very tragic death in my family this weekend. Last night my mom called me and told me that my oldest step sister died under extremely tragic circomstances. At this point in time the police are ruling it out is a suicide. To say that this comes as a shocking suprise for the family and is very sad is an understatement. Although, my step sister and I were never close I still feel sad and extremely disappointed in how she chose to end her life. I feel extremely sorry for my neace who will be cellibrating this and every other Christmas without her mother. I also feel deeply sorry for my step father who lost a daughter, and my surviving step sisters who lost one of their sisters. For them Christmas will never ever be the same. For those of you who have faith in a religious background please pray for them in this time of morning and grief. Also pray for my step sister that perhaps she can find happiness in death that she never could in this life time. Moreover, never forget to tell your closest ffriends, family, and other loved ones that you love them. Remember that there is nothing more precious than life, and that no matter how bad life gets at times that taking your own life without a good cause is the greatest tragity of all. Finally, I wish to leave you with something that I learned from this experience. Remember to forgive those who have wronged you, and try to make, if possible, peace with everyone that you can. Especially, those who are your family and friends. Nothing is more tragic than what happened in my sisters' case. I'm not going to get into details and specifics, but one thing I can say is that my oldest sister was troubled. In her death she left behind a lot of unsettled arguments with my step father, my younger step sisters, her grandparents, and things were said in the heat of the moment to each other that can never be taken back or settled in this life time. My youngest step sister, for example, vowed never to see my oldest step sister again in this life time, and now, of course, she never will. My youngest step sister has to live with the guilt of allowing her personal feelings get in the way of making peace with her sister when she could have. Moreover, she now realises she wasn't there for her sister when she went over the emotional brink and took her own life when she needed her family, her loved ones, more than ever. So the lesson I want to pass on to each and every single one of you is don't let your anger, your personal differences, etc go so far that you have to live each and every day of your life regretting the things you have said and done. Make your peace while you have time, and tell those you love that you love them. Let them know you care regardless of how ang
Re: [Audyssey] Some Extremely Sad News
Hi Tom, Not the religious type here, so I can't offer much in the way of prayers, but it looks like you've got quite a few of those on the way already. Just wanted to chime in and say that I hope the festive season doesn't put you and yours through the ringer too much this year. From memory, I think you have a young son right? That "like a kid at Christmas" saying is there for a reason, he'll be a little ball of energy whatever happens so long as Crimbo is on the TV and in the neighbours windows. Focus on him, it'll help. Outpourings of sympathy won't actually change anything, but shout if there's anything I or we can do other than keep sending you positivity in whichever way we each subscribe too. Chin up bud... Scott On 12/20/10, Allison Mervis wrote: > Dear Thomas, > I am so sorry for your loss. My thoughts and prayers are with you and your > family during this difficult time. > Allison > http://www.allisonmervis.com/ > > > -Original Message- > From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On > Behalf Of Thomas Ward > Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 1:13 PM > To: Gamers Discussion list > Subject: [Audyssey] Some Extremely Sad News > > Dear list, > > I regret to inform you that there has been a very very tragic death in my > family this weekend. Last night my mom called me and told me that my oldest > step sister died under extremely tragic circomstances. At this point in time > the police are ruling it out is a suicide. To say that this comes as a > shocking suprise for the family and is very sad is an understatement. > > Although, my step sister and I were never close I still feel sad and > extremely disappointed in how she chose to end her life. I feel extremely > sorry for my neace who will be cellibrating this and every other Christmas > without her mother. I also feel deeply sorry for my step father who lost a > daughter, and my surviving step sisters who lost one of their sisters. For > them Christmas will never ever be the same. For those of you who have faith > in a religious background please pray for them in this time of morning and > grief. Also pray for my step sister that perhaps she can find happiness in > death that she never could in this life time. Moreover, never forget to tell > your closest ffriends, family, and other loved ones that you love them. > Remember that there is nothing more precious than life, and that no matter > how bad life gets at times that taking your own life without a good cause is > the greatest tragity of all. > > Finally, I wish to leave you with something that I learned from this > experience. Remember to forgive those who have wronged you, and try to make, > if possible, peace with everyone that you can. Especially, those who are > your family and friends. Nothing is more tragic than what happened in my > sisters' case. > > I'm not going to get into details and specifics, but one thing I can say is > that my oldest sister was troubled. In her death she left behind a lot of > unsettled arguments with my step father, my younger step sisters, her > grandparents, and things were said in the heat of the moment to each other > that can never be taken back or settled in this life time. My youngest step > sister, for example, vowed never to see my oldest step sister again in this > life time, and now, of course, she never will. My youngest step sister has > to live with the guilt of allowing her personal feelings get in the way of > making peace with her sister when she could have. Moreover, she now realises > she wasn't there for her sister when she went over the emotional brink and > took her own life when she needed her family, her loved ones, more than > ever. > > So the lesson I want to pass on to each and every single one of you is don't > let your anger, your personal differences, etc go so far that you have to > live each and every day of your life regretting the things you have said and > done. Make your peace while you have time, and tell those you love that you > love them. Let them know you care regardless of how angry you might be at > them. You will never know when tomorrow is simply too late to say, "I'm > sorry. I love you." > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, > send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can b
Re: [Audyssey] Some Extremely Sad News
Dear Thomas, I am so sorry for your loss. My thoughts and prayers are with you and your family during this difficult time. Allison http://www.allisonmervis.com/ -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 1:13 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] Some Extremely Sad News Dear list, I regret to inform you that there has been a very very tragic death in my family this weekend. Last night my mom called me and told me that my oldest step sister died under extremely tragic circomstances. At this point in time the police are ruling it out is a suicide. To say that this comes as a shocking suprise for the family and is very sad is an understatement. Although, my step sister and I were never close I still feel sad and extremely disappointed in how she chose to end her life. I feel extremely sorry for my neace who will be cellibrating this and every other Christmas without her mother. I also feel deeply sorry for my step father who lost a daughter, and my surviving step sisters who lost one of their sisters. For them Christmas will never ever be the same. For those of you who have faith in a religious background please pray for them in this time of morning and grief. Also pray for my step sister that perhaps she can find happiness in death that she never could in this life time. Moreover, never forget to tell your closest ffriends, family, and other loved ones that you love them. Remember that there is nothing more precious than life, and that no matter how bad life gets at times that taking your own life without a good cause is the greatest tragity of all. Finally, I wish to leave you with something that I learned from this experience. Remember to forgive those who have wronged you, and try to make, if possible, peace with everyone that you can. Especially, those who are your family and friends. Nothing is more tragic than what happened in my sisters' case. I'm not going to get into details and specifics, but one thing I can say is that my oldest sister was troubled. In her death she left behind a lot of unsettled arguments with my step father, my younger step sisters, her grandparents, and things were said in the heat of the moment to each other that can never be taken back or settled in this life time. My youngest step sister, for example, vowed never to see my oldest step sister again in this life time, and now, of course, she never will. My youngest step sister has to live with the guilt of allowing her personal feelings get in the way of making peace with her sister when she could have. Moreover, she now realises she wasn't there for her sister when she went over the emotional brink and took her own life when she needed her family, her loved ones, more than ever. So the lesson I want to pass on to each and every single one of you is don't let your anger, your personal differences, etc go so far that you have to live each and every day of your life regretting the things you have said and done. Make your peace while you have time, and tell those you love that you love them. Let them know you care regardless of how angry you might be at them. You will never know when tomorrow is simply too late to say, "I'm sorry. I love you." --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Some Extremely Sad News
Will pray for them Thomas. Really sorry to hear the news. - Original Message - From: "Mike Maslo" To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 1:18 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Some Extremely Sad News Thomas: Let me say that I fully agree with every word you have said. A loved one I am extremely close to lost her mother this past Tuesday and those things you said hit home for her and the family. My thoughts and prayers go to you and the entire family and those who were affected by this tragedy. May God bless each and every one on the list. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 12:13 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] Some Extremely Sad News Dear list, I regret to inform you that there has been a very very tragic death in my family this weekend. Last night my mom called me and told me that my oldest step sister died under extremely tragic circomstances. At this point in time the police are ruling it out is a suicide. To say that this comes as a shocking suprise for the family and is very sad is an understatement. Although, my step sister and I were never close I still feel sad and extremely disappointed in how she chose to end her life. I feel extremely sorry for my neace who will be cellibrating this and every other Christmas without her mother. I also feel deeply sorry for my step father who lost a daughter, and my surviving step sisters who lost one of their sisters. For them Christmas will never ever be the same. For those of you who have faith in a religious background please pray for them in this time of morning and grief. Also pray for my step sister that perhaps she can find happiness in death that she never could in this life time. Moreover, never forget to tell your closest ffriends, family, and other loved ones that you love them. Remember that there is nothing more precious than life, and that no matter how bad life gets at times that taking your own life without a good cause is the greatest tragity of all. Finally, I wish to leave you with something that I learned from this experience. Remember to forgive those who have wronged you, and try to make, if possible, peace with everyone that you can. Especially, those who are your family and friends. Nothing is more tragic than what happened in my sisters' case. I'm not going to get into details and specifics, but one thing I can say is that my oldest sister was troubled. In her death she left behind a lot of unsettled arguments with my step father, my younger step sisters, her grandparents, and things were said in the heat of the moment to each other that can never be taken back or settled in this life time. My youngest step sister, for example, vowed never to see my oldest step sister again in this life time, and now, of course, she never will. My youngest step sister has to live with the guilt of allowing her personal feelings get in the way of making peace with her sister when she could have. Moreover, she now realises she wasn't there for her sister when she went over the emotional brink and took her own life when she needed her family, her loved ones, more than ever. So the lesson I want to pass on to each and every single one of you is don't let your anger, your personal differences, etc go so far that you have to live each and every day of your life regretting the things you have said and done. Make your peace while you have time, and tell those you love that you love them. Let them know you care regardless of how angry you might be at them. You will never know when tomorrow is simply too late to say, "I'm sorry. I love you." --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be search
Re: [Audyssey] Some Extremely Sad News
Hello Thomas, My sympathies are with you and your family. I will keep you all in my prayers. This is turning out to be a tragic christmas season. My best friend is losing her grandmother. Her grandmother had a heart attack and a stroke, and her organs are now all shutting down. I wish you and all yours a good christmas, or at least as good a one as you can possibly have with your loss. Best wishes, Greg W. - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 1:12 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Some Extremely Sad News Dear list, I regret to inform you that there has been a very very tragic death in my family this weekend. Last night my mom called me and told me that my oldest step sister died under extremely tragic circomstances. At this point in time the police are ruling it out is a suicide. To say that this comes as a shocking suprise for the family and is very sad is an understatement. Although, my step sister and I were never close I still feel sad and extremely disappointed in how she chose to end her life. I feel extremely sorry for my neace who will be cellibrating this and every other Christmas without her mother. I also feel deeply sorry for my step father who lost a daughter, and my surviving step sisters who lost one of their sisters. For them Christmas will never ever be the same. For those of you who have faith in a religious background please pray for them in this time of morning and grief. Also pray for my step sister that perhaps she can find happiness in death that she never could in this life time. Moreover, never forget to tell your closest ffriends, family, and other loved ones that you love them. Remember that there is nothing more precious than life, and that no matter how bad life gets at times that taking your own life without a good cause is the greatest tragity of all. Finally, I wish to leave you with something that I learned from this experience. Remember to forgive those who have wronged you, and try to make, if possible, peace with everyone that you can. Especially, those who are your family and friends. Nothing is more tragic than what happened in my sisters' case. I'm not going to get into details and specifics, but one thing I can say is that my oldest sister was troubled. In her death she left behind a lot of unsettled arguments with my step father, my younger step sisters, her grandparents, and things were said in the heat of the moment to each other that can never be taken back or settled in this life time. My youngest step sister, for example, vowed never to see my oldest step sister again in this life time, and now, of course, she never will. My youngest step sister has to live with the guilt of allowing her personal feelings get in the way of making peace with her sister when she could have. Moreover, she now realises she wasn't there for her sister when she went over the emotional brink and took her own life when she needed her family, her loved ones, more than ever. So the lesson I want to pass on to each and every single one of you is don't let your anger, your personal differences, etc go so far that you have to live each and every day of your life regretting the things you have said and done. Make your peace while you have time, and tell those you love that you love them. Let them know you care regardless of how angry you might be at them. You will never know when tomorrow is simply too late to say, "I'm sorry. I love you." --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Registration features of BGT
Hi, Holy crow! Do me a favor and make sure FS doesn't hear about that. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Valiant8086 Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 5:41 PM To: Philip Bennefall; Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registration features of BGT I've been wondering if the online registration couldn't be the more secure option if you were paranoid. 1. The system would require an account creation which would mean a user name and password. A. Creating an account would be required from within a web browser. Account creation would ask for user name, password, email, telephone number, and information used to charge the customer for the product. B. Email verification would be required. Just reply to the email received. C. Account creation would be automatic, the money charge would be completed upon account creation. 2. The program itself would run in restricted mode without user name or password having been given when the program was launched. Similar to GMA Games. 3. If the user typed in the user name, pressed tab, typed the password, pressed enter when the program was first launched, the program would check if the account was valid and if there were any more allowed registrations in the event that there were a limit. If both checks returned positive the program would: A. unlock the full functionality B. If registration limits were imposed, remove one allowed registration. c. Call a function on the central server which would Send both the account holder and the game creator an email notifying that the program had been registered on a new machine. The email sent to the account holder would inform that person that they must reply to the email within 24 hours verifying that the registration had been legitimate. 4. If the notification email sent to the account holder did not receive a reply within 24 hours, the unlock would be reverted back to demo next time the program connected to the server. 5. Given condition number 4, the program would always quietly attempt to contact the server when it was launched. The way to crack this in the most simple way would be to: A. Have the person who gave you the user name and password reply to their email to verify your legality in registering your copy of the program, or, b. have the person give you the user name and password, then never be online while starting the program. 6. In an attempt to vix the problems addressed in number 5, have the program lock itself if it were unable to contact the server in two subsequent launches maybe? 7. Additionally, the game creator would be able to access the user profile, seeing their user name, email address and telephone number. The developer could revoke one or all registrations. The revoke would only work when the person happened to be online as they started the program. Ok. It's an overly dramatic, complicated sounding deviation from option 3 in your orriginal list of suggestions. Additionally, I soundly doubt that as a programmer I would have the patience to handle the coding and server side developing required to facilitate such a setup. Aside from that, it sounds like an almost simple, easy way to go about this. Just enter your user name, your password, then go check your email and reply to the confirmation email. You could even enter your user name and password every time you launched the program after the 24 hour unlock. Right, so I gave my oppinion, but I don't believe I like my own oppinion now. It'd just cause headaches like options 2 and 3 would, and even if all of the conditions were checked, you could still just reenter the user name and password you had for another full day. And a lot of games won't keep on lasting much longer than a day for some people. On 12/19/2010 2:45 AM, Philip Bennefall wrote: > Hi all, > > The release of BGT 1.0 is drawing near, and I am currently working on the registration functionality that will be available to game writers. I have written an article on the subject which I was wondering if you could all give me your opinions on, or at least those of you interested in game creation. Smile. > > The article can be found at: > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5121962/Registration.txt > > Your thoughts and feedback would be very much appreciated! > > Kind regards, > > Philip Bennefall > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send
Re: [Audyssey] Some Extremely Sad News
Thomas, I am very sorry for your loss and your family's troubles around it. May God's peace blossom in every heart, so that this time of sorrow can at least be a beginning of something better. And may the soul of your sister find the peace in death that she couldn't find before. Christopher Bartlett --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Registration features of BGT
I've been wondering if the online registration couldn't be the more secure option if you were paranoid. 1. The system would require an account creation which would mean a user name and password. A. Creating an account would be required from within a web browser. Account creation would ask for user name, password, email, telephone number, and information used to charge the customer for the product. B. Email verification would be required. Just reply to the email received. C. Account creation would be automatic, the money charge would be completed upon account creation. 2. The program itself would run in restricted mode without user name or password having been given when the program was launched. Similar to GMA Games. 3. If the user typed in the user name, pressed tab, typed the password, pressed enter when the program was first launched, the program would check if the account was valid and if there were any more allowed registrations in the event that there were a limit. If both checks returned positive the program would: A. unlock the full functionality B. If registration limits were imposed, remove one allowed registration. c. Call a function on the central server which would Send both the account holder and the game creator an email notifying that the program had been registered on a new machine. The email sent to the account holder would inform that person that they must reply to the email within 24 hours verifying that the registration had been legitimate. 4. If the notification email sent to the account holder did not receive a reply within 24 hours, the unlock would be reverted back to demo next time the program connected to the server. 5. Given condition number 4, the program would always quietly attempt to contact the server when it was launched. The way to crack this in the most simple way would be to: A. Have the person who gave you the user name and password reply to their email to verify your legality in registering your copy of the program, or, b. have the person give you the user name and password, then never be online while starting the program. 6. In an attempt to vix the problems addressed in number 5, have the program lock itself if it were unable to contact the server in two subsequent launches maybe? 7. Additionally, the game creator would be able to access the user profile, seeing their user name, email address and telephone number. The developer could revoke one or all registrations. The revoke would only work when the person happened to be online as they started the program. Ok. It's an overly dramatic, complicated sounding deviation from option 3 in your orriginal list of suggestions. Additionally, I soundly doubt that as a programmer I would have the patience to handle the coding and server side developing required to facilitate such a setup. Aside from that, it sounds like an almost simple, easy way to go about this. Just enter your user name, your password, then go check your email and reply to the confirmation email. You could even enter your user name and password every time you launched the program after the 24 hour unlock. Right, so I gave my oppinion, but I don't believe I like my own oppinion now. It'd just cause headaches like options 2 and 3 would, and even if all of the conditions were checked, you could still just reenter the user name and password you had for another full day. And a lot of games won't keep on lasting much longer than a day for some people. On 12/19/2010 2:45 AM, Philip Bennefall wrote: Hi all, The release of BGT 1.0 is drawing near, and I am currently working on the registration functionality that will be available to game writers. I have written an article on the subject which I was wondering if you could all give me your opinions on, or at least those of you interested in game creation. Smile. The article can be found at: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5121962/Registration.txt Your thoughts and feedback would be very much appreciated! Kind regards, Philip Bennefall --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow.
Re: [Audyssey] Registration features of BGT
Hi Thomas, AAA...no kidding. I must not have been listening correctly. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 5:06 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registration features of BGT Hi Hayden, No, not each name. I said a different generator for each game/product. Big, big, big difference. On 12/19/10, Hayden Presley wrote: > Hi Thomas, > Ok, I'm a bit confused. You are going to create a different generator for > each name? I highly doubt that's what you mean but that's the only way I can > see that not using an automated system is a good thing. > > Best Regards, > Hayden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Registration features of BGT
Hi Hayden, No, not each name. I said a different generator for each game/product. Big, big, big difference. On 12/19/10, Hayden Presley wrote: > Hi Thomas, > Ok, I'm a bit confused. You are going to create a different generator for > each name? I highly doubt that's what you mean but that's the only way I can > see that not using an automated system is a good thing. > > Best Regards, > Hayden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Some Extremely Sad News
that royally sucks loads. Its christmas week so double suckage. At 07:12 a.m. 20/12/2010, you wrote: Dear list, I regret to inform you that there has been a very very tragic death in my family this weekend. Last night my mom called me and told me that my oldest step sister died under extremely tragic circomstances. At this point in time the police are ruling it out is a suicide. To say that this comes as a shocking suprise for the family and is very sad is an understatement. Although, my step sister and I were never close I still feel sad and extremely disappointed in how she chose to end her life. I feel extremely sorry for my neace who will be cellibrating this and every other Christmas without her mother. I also feel deeply sorry for my step father who lost a daughter, and my surviving step sisters who lost one of their sisters. For them Christmas will never ever be the same. For those of you who have faith in a religious background please pray for them in this time of morning and grief. Also pray for my step sister that perhaps she can find happiness in death that she never could in this life time. Moreover, never forget to tell your closest ffriends, family, and other loved ones that you love them. Remember that there is nothing more precious than life, and that no matter how bad life gets at times that taking your own life without a good cause is the greatest tragity of all. Finally, I wish to leave you with something that I learned from this experience. Remember to forgive those who have wronged you, and try to make, if possible, peace with everyone that you can. Especially, those who are your family and friends. Nothing is more tragic than what happened in my sisters' case. I'm not going to get into details and specifics, but one thing I can say is that my oldest sister was troubled. In her death she left behind a lot of unsettled arguments with my step father, my younger step sisters, her grandparents, and things were said in the heat of the moment to each other that can never be taken back or settled in this life time. My youngest step sister, for example, vowed never to see my oldest step sister again in this life time, and now, of course, she never will. My youngest step sister has to live with the guilt of allowing her personal feelings get in the way of making peace with her sister when she could have. Moreover, she now realises she wasn't there for her sister when she went over the emotional brink and took her own life when she needed her family, her loved ones, more than ever. So the lesson I want to pass on to each and every single one of you is don't let your anger, your personal differences, etc go so far that you have to live each and every day of your life regretting the things you have said and done. Make your peace while you have time, and tell those you love that you love them. Let them know you care regardless of how angry you might be at them. You will never know when tomorrow is simply too late to say, "I'm sorry. I love you." --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] problems running Papa Sangre
Hi I have just gotten Papa Sangre and am trying to run it on my Ipod Touch, but once I've walked around for a bit the game closes with no warning and I iether go back to my home screen or something else opens. I've tried turning voice-over on to find out where I am but by then the game is closed. Has anyone else had this, not sure if it's a bug or not. I know I'm not hitting the home key by a mistake. Thanks I'll contact the develepor, but i just thought I'd ask around here too in case I'm doing something wrong. Thanks from Lori. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Registration features of BGT
Hi Thomas, Ok, I'm a bit confused. You are going to create a different generator for each name? I highly doubt that's what you mean but that's the only way I can see that not using an automated system is a good thing. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 2:29 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registration features of BGT Hi Damien, That's true, but what I'm doing makes it harder to create a custom key generator. At least if someone passes their name and key around, and I find out about the key I have a name to tie it to and can either block said name and key in my future products, and can refuse to sell products to the person who shared their key. It is a lot harder to filter out invalid keys if someone has a custom key generator and can make custom keys at will. That said nothing is full proof and I know it. I just gave my reasons for not doing automated key generation, and I'm firm on that point. Cheers! On 12/19/10, Damien Pendleton wrote: > Hi Thomas, > As far as name registrations go it doesn't have to be a matter of physically > cracking the game. It could simply be that there is a customer who gives a > key to a friend and thereby leaves room for that friend to pass around the > key until it eventually gets to a website maintainer who puts it up for > download. Is it really worth making it different for each game just in case > all of your customers are honest enough to keep their key to themselves? > It's like Philip's article says, if they're going to crack it, they're going > to crack it anyway regardless. > Regards, > Damien. > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Thomas Ward" > To: "Gamers Discussion list" > Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 6:29 PM > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registration features of BGT > > >> Hi Muhammed, >> >> It really comes down to basic security. As Philip explained in his >> article the more generic you make your registration system the easier >> it is to crack not just one of your games, but all of them with one >> simple crack. With an automated security system the registration >> process, I.E. the formula for creating registration keys, has to be >> fairly generic in principle. If someone should ever figure out the >> right formula/process they can create a quick and dirty random >> generator that not only cracks game x, but will consistantly work for >> all of your games. Since I create a new random key generator on a per >> game basis I can at least be assured the same key won't be used for >> two different products, and a cracker will have to figure out the >> means of how I generated that key on a per game basis. It is far from >> a full proof system, but I'll make them work harder to discover how I >> did it. In short, it adds a little more security to a weak security >> system. >> >> On 12/19/10, Shiny protector wrote: >>> Hi Thomas, >>> I changed my mind. Yes name and key is better. But in stead of you just >>> sitting down and generating keys, why don't you have an automatic system >>> like Munawar does? In that way it would be quicker. >> >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >> list, >> please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived a
Re: [Audyssey] Registration features of BGT
Hi Damien, That's true, but what I'm doing makes it harder to create a custom key generator. At least if someone passes their name and key around, and I find out about the key I have a name to tie it to and can either block said name and key in my future products, and can refuse to sell products to the person who shared their key. It is a lot harder to filter out invalid keys if someone has a custom key generator and can make custom keys at will. That said nothing is full proof and I know it. I just gave my reasons for not doing automated key generation, and I'm firm on that point. Cheers! On 12/19/10, Damien Pendleton wrote: > Hi Thomas, > As far as name registrations go it doesn't have to be a matter of physically > cracking the game. It could simply be that there is a customer who gives a > key to a friend and thereby leaves room for that friend to pass around the > key until it eventually gets to a website maintainer who puts it up for > download. Is it really worth making it different for each game just in case > all of your customers are honest enough to keep their key to themselves? > It's like Philip's article says, if they're going to crack it, they're going > to crack it anyway regardless. > Regards, > Damien. > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Thomas Ward" > To: "Gamers Discussion list" > Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 6:29 PM > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registration features of BGT > > >> Hi Muhammed, >> >> It really comes down to basic security. As Philip explained in his >> article the more generic you make your registration system the easier >> it is to crack not just one of your games, but all of them with one >> simple crack. With an automated security system the registration >> process, I.E. the formula for creating registration keys, has to be >> fairly generic in principle. If someone should ever figure out the >> right formula/process they can create a quick and dirty random >> generator that not only cracks game x, but will consistantly work for >> all of your games. Since I create a new random key generator on a per >> game basis I can at least be assured the same key won't be used for >> two different products, and a cracker will have to figure out the >> means of how I generated that key on a per game basis. It is far from >> a full proof system, but I'll make them work harder to discover how I >> did it. In short, it adds a little more security to a weak security >> system. >> >> On 12/19/10, Shiny protector wrote: >>> Hi Thomas, >>> I changed my mind. Yes name and key is better. But in stead of you just >>> sitting down and generating keys, why don't you have an automatic system >>> like Munawar does? In that way it would be quicker. >> >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >> list, >> please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Registration features of BGT
True. - Original Message - From: "Bryan Peterson" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 7:32 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registration features of BGT That's up to him. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: "Shiny protector" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 11:28 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registration features of BGT Bryan, I was saying that why doesn't Thomas try to do that? - Original Message - From: "Bryan Peterson" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 5:58 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registration features of BGT I think Philip does as well. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: "Shiny protector" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 10:49 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registration features of BGT Hi Thomas, I changed my mind. Yes name and key is better. But in stead of you just sitting down and generating keys, why don't you have an automatic system like Munawar does? In that way it would be quicker. - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Philip Bennefall" ; "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 4:43 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registration features of BGT Hi Philip, Well, I for one, whole heartedly agree with your assessement. In fact, I've been writing an article I'm going to eventually post on my developer's site that pretty much says the same thing in more depth. Bottom line, no matter what you do there are security risks, and a determined cracker will break your security eventually. So the key here is to create a system that will keep your honest customers honest, and as for the dishonest ones don't worry about them. A dishonest customer will do whatever is necessary to pirate your software anyway. It is just one of the many costs of doing business. As both a computer user and software developer I am most comfortable with a name and key system myself. Yes, it is less secure, but the advantages out way the disadvantages. Everytime I buy a new computer, or replace hardware in my PC I don't have to obtain new authorizations for all of my software, nor do I have to be online while I register it all. As a developer the name and key system works easier because all I have to do is put their name into a key generator and it prints out a key. I can then mail that key to the customer and they can use it on one or a hundred machines that they own without that key failing. That means since they have the freedom of choice how to use their key, with in legal means of course, that I don't have to constantly generate new keys because someone purchased a new PC, changed some hardware that caused the registration program to change the hardware ID, or have to write licensing scripts for my website which aren't really as secure as they could be. While online licensing is preferable to a hardware ID system I've never really liked it much as a personal user. It is, well, an inconvenience to have to get online just to license your software. One or two programs is alright, but if everything worked that way it would really suck. Smile. On 12/19/10, Philip Bennefall wrote: Hi all, The release of BGT 1.0 is drawing near, and I am currently working on the registration functionality that will be available to game writers. I have written an article on the subject which I was wondering if you could all give me your opinions on, or at least those of you interested in game creation. Smile. The article can be found at: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5121962/Registration.txt Your thoughts and feedback would be very much appreciated! Kind regards, Philip Bennefall --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages
Re: [Audyssey] Papa Sangre review
completely On Dec 19, 2010, at 7:42 PM, Lori Duncan wrote: > Is it blind-friendly > - Original Message - From: "Karl Belanger" > To: "Gamers Discussion list" > Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 7:14 PM > Subject: [Audyssey] Papa Sangre review > > >> Hi all, >> >> I tried to post a review of Papa Sangre on the list last night but it was to >> large. So, I posted it on the audiogames.net forum instead. >> >> http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=43920#p43920 >> >> Enjoy. >> >> Karl >> >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >> please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Some Extremely Sad News
Hi Tom. I'm really sorry to here this, and will be thinking about you and the rest of your family. All the best, dark. - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 6:12 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Some Extremely Sad News Dear list, I regret to inform you that there has been a very very tragic death in my family this weekend. Last night my mom called me and told me that my oldest step sister died under extremely tragic circomstances. At this point in time the police are ruling it out is a suicide. To say that this comes as a shocking suprise for the family and is very sad is an understatement. Although, my step sister and I were never close I still feel sad and extremely disappointed in how she chose to end her life. I feel extremely sorry for my neace who will be cellibrating this and every other Christmas without her mother. I also feel deeply sorry for my step father who lost a daughter, and my surviving step sisters who lost one of their sisters. For them Christmas will never ever be the same. For those of you who have faith in a religious background please pray for them in this time of morning and grief. Also pray for my step sister that perhaps she can find happiness in death that she never could in this life time. Moreover, never forget to tell your closest ffriends, family, and other loved ones that you love them. Remember that there is nothing more precious than life, and that no matter how bad life gets at times that taking your own life without a good cause is the greatest tragity of all. Finally, I wish to leave you with something that I learned from this experience. Remember to forgive those who have wronged you, and try to make, if possible, peace with everyone that you can. Especially, those who are your family and friends. Nothing is more tragic than what happened in my sisters' case. I'm not going to get into details and specifics, but one thing I can say is that my oldest sister was troubled. In her death she left behind a lot of unsettled arguments with my step father, my younger step sisters, her grandparents, and things were said in the heat of the moment to each other that can never be taken back or settled in this life time. My youngest step sister, for example, vowed never to see my oldest step sister again in this life time, and now, of course, she never will. My youngest step sister has to live with the guilt of allowing her personal feelings get in the way of making peace with her sister when she could have. Moreover, she now realises she wasn't there for her sister when she went over the emotional brink and took her own life when she needed her family, her loved ones, more than ever. So the lesson I want to pass on to each and every single one of you is don't let your anger, your personal differences, etc go so far that you have to live each and every day of your life regretting the things you have said and done. Make your peace while you have time, and tell those you love that you love them. Let them know you care regardless of how angry you might be at them. You will never know when tomorrow is simply too late to say, "I'm sorry. I love you." --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] some problems related to games in java
Hi, The oddest thing about this whole thing is that said looping problems weren't there when I first tried them. Ah, well... Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 9:58 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] some problems related to games in java Hi Hayden, I know. I've seen this problem with some of the PB Games as well, and unfortunately I don't know of any fix. I think it is just one of the many flaws of Philip using a scripting language like Javascript for games rather than something like C++. Javascript was never intended for this type of program, and is mainly used as web scripts and sometimes used as application scripts. Definitely wasn't entended to write full fledged programs. Smile. On 12/19/10, Hayden Presley wrote: > Hi Thomas, > Aaa...thought they were written in java. But thatcertainly doesn't fix my > problem... > > Best Regards, > Hayden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Papa Sangre review
sad that the stuff in the trailer did not even make it in to the game On Dec 19, 2010, at 7:14 PM, Karl Belanger wrote: > Hi all, > > I tried to post a review of Papa Sangre on the list last night but it was to > large. So, I posted it on the audiogames.net forum instead. > > http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=43920#p43920 > > Enjoy. > > Karl > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Papa Sangre review
Is it blind-friendly - Original Message - From: "Karl Belanger" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 7:14 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Papa Sangre review Hi all, I tried to post a review of Papa Sangre on the list last night but it was to large. So, I posted it on the audiogames.net forum instead. http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=43920#p43920 Enjoy. Karl --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Registration features of BGT
That's up to him. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: "Shiny protector" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 11:28 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registration features of BGT Bryan, I was saying that why doesn't Thomas try to do that? - Original Message - From: "Bryan Peterson" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 5:58 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registration features of BGT I think Philip does as well. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: "Shiny protector" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 10:49 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registration features of BGT Hi Thomas, I changed my mind. Yes name and key is better. But in stead of you just sitting down and generating keys, why don't you have an automatic system like Munawar does? In that way it would be quicker. - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Philip Bennefall" ; "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 4:43 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registration features of BGT Hi Philip, Well, I for one, whole heartedly agree with your assessement. In fact, I've been writing an article I'm going to eventually post on my developer's site that pretty much says the same thing in more depth. Bottom line, no matter what you do there are security risks, and a determined cracker will break your security eventually. So the key here is to create a system that will keep your honest customers honest, and as for the dishonest ones don't worry about them. A dishonest customer will do whatever is necessary to pirate your software anyway. It is just one of the many costs of doing business. As both a computer user and software developer I am most comfortable with a name and key system myself. Yes, it is less secure, but the advantages out way the disadvantages. Everytime I buy a new computer, or replace hardware in my PC I don't have to obtain new authorizations for all of my software, nor do I have to be online while I register it all. As a developer the name and key system works easier because all I have to do is put their name into a key generator and it prints out a key. I can then mail that key to the customer and they can use it on one or a hundred machines that they own without that key failing. That means since they have the freedom of choice how to use their key, with in legal means of course, that I don't have to constantly generate new keys because someone purchased a new PC, changed some hardware that caused the registration program to change the hardware ID, or have to write licensing scripts for my website which aren't really as secure as they could be. While online licensing is preferable to a hardware ID system I've never really liked it much as a personal user. It is, well, an inconvenience to have to get online just to license your software. One or two programs is alright, but if everything worked that way it would really suck. Smile. On 12/19/10, Philip Bennefall wrote: Hi all, The release of BGT 1.0 is drawing near, and I am currently working on the registration functionality that will be available to game writers. I have written an article on the subject which I was wondering if you could all give me your opinions on, or at least those of you interested in game creation. Smile. The article can be found at: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5121962/Registration.txt Your thoughts and feedback would be very much appreciated! Kind regards, Philip Bennefall --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-
Re: [Audyssey] Some Extremely Sad News
Thank you, Nick. I really appreciate those words of wisdom. I agree with you that suicide is definitely the wrong answer all the way around. No matter how deep and dark the hole is you find yourself in taking your own life isn't the way out, and I find it such a terrible waiste that she didn't reach out for help before taking her own life. Instead she fell down and stayed down, and somewhere along the way lost the will to pick herself up and go on. On 12/19/10, Nick Helms wrote: > Thomas, > I'm really sorry to hear of the death in your family. > You and your family are in my prayers, and, to all who read this who > are in a dark place in your life right now, Find a friend or family > member who cares. It feels great to talk about it, and even better to > have someone to help you to resolve whatever issues you're trying to > deal with. My point is that you can come out of your shell, and make > peace with those you care about, and live a great life. Don't think > that there's no way out, or that you are worth nothing, or that taking > your own life would help you or the people you know. That's complete > crap. You can work through it, no matter how hopeless you think your > situation is. So take those first stepps. Taking your own life is not > the way to go, and I'm terebly sorry that Thomas's sister felt that > taking her own life was the only way out. > In the words of Aaron Lewis "Falling is easy, it's getting back up > that becomes the problem. And if you believe you can find a way out, > then you've solved your problem." > Never give up. Find someone to talk to and work with, and pull > yourself back up. It's worth it, I promise. > And Thomas, I'm so sorry about your stepsister. Again, you and your > family are in my prayers. > > On 12/19/10, peter Mahach wrote: >> Just wanna say I agree with everything you said... and I pray for you >> - Original Message - >> From: "Mike Maslo" >> To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" >> Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 7:18 PM >> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Some Extremely Sad News >> >> >>> Thomas: >>> >>> Let me say that I fully agree with every word you have said. >>> >>> A loved one I am extremely close to lost her mother this past Tuesday and >>> those things you said hit home for her and the family. >>> >>> My thoughts and prayers go to you and the entire family and those who >>> were >>> affected by this tragedy. >>> >>> May God bless each and every one on the list. >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On >>> Behalf Of Thomas Ward >>> Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 12:13 PM >>> To: Gamers Discussion list >>> Subject: [Audyssey] Some Extremely Sad News >>> >>> Dear list, >>> >>> I regret to inform you that there has been a very very tragic death in >>> my family this weekend. Last night my mom called me and told me that >>> my oldest step sister died under extremely tragic circomstances. At >>> this point in time the police are ruling it out is a suicide. To say >>> that this comes as a shocking suprise for the family and is very sad >>> is an understatement. >>> >>> Although, my step sister and I were never close I still feel sad and >>> extremely disappointed in how she chose to end her life. I feel >>> extremely sorry for my neace who will be cellibrating this and every >>> other Christmas without her mother. I also feel deeply sorry for my >>> step father who lost a daughter, and my surviving step sisters who >>> lost one of their sisters. For them Christmas will never ever be the >>> same. For those of you who have faith in a religious background please >>> pray for them in this time of morning and grief. Also pray for my step >>> sister that perhaps she can find happiness in death that she never >>> could in this life time. Moreover, never forget to tell your closest >>> ffriends, family, and other loved ones that you love them. Remember >>> that there is nothing more precious than life, and that no matter how >>> bad life gets at times that taking your own life without a good cause >>> is the greatest tragity of all. >>> >>> Finally, I wish to leave you with something that I learned from this >>> experience. Remember to forgive those who have wronged you, and try to >>> make, if possible, peace with everyone that you can. Especially, those >>> who are your family and friends. Nothing is more tragic than what >>> happened in my sisters' case. >>> >>> I'm not going to get into details and specifics, but one thing I can >>> say is that my oldest sister was troubled. In her death she left >>> behind a lot of unsettled arguments with my step father, my younger >>> step sisters, her grandparents, and things were said in the heat of >>> the moment to each other that can never be taken back or settled in >>> this life time. My youngest step sister, for example, vowed never to >>> see my oldest step sister again in this life time, and now, of course, >>> she never will. My youngest step si
Re: [Audyssey] Some Extremely Sad News
Hi Thomas, All right I won't talk about it. - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 7:09 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Some Extremely Sad News Hi Muhammed, Yes. Basically, that kind of ruling is up to the coroner's office. At the moment the coroner has declared it a suicide by a self-inflicted gunshot to the head. If you don't mind I'd really not like to talk about this. Especially, on list. I just want people to know what is going on, and if I go no mail for a few days you will know why I have left the list for a while. Thanks. On 12/19/10, Shiny protector wrote: Thomas, when you mean the police, do you mean forensic scientists? - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 6:12 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Some Extremely Sad News Dear list, I regret to inform you that there has been a very very tragic death in my family this weekend. Last night my mom called me and told me that my oldest step sister died under extremely tragic circomstances. At this point in time the police are ruling it out is a suicide. To say that this comes as a shocking suprise for the family and is very sad is an understatement. Although, my step sister and I were never close I still feel sad and extremely disappointed in how she chose to end her life. I feel extremely sorry for my neace who will be cellibrating this and every other Christmas without her mother. I also feel deeply sorry for my step father who lost a daughter, and my surviving step sisters who lost one of their sisters. For them Christmas will never ever be the same. For those of you who have faith in a religious background please pray for them in this time of morning and grief. Also pray for my step sister that perhaps she can find happiness in death that she never could in this life time. Moreover, never forget to tell your closest ffriends, family, and other loved ones that you love them. Remember that there is nothing more precious than life, and that no matter how bad life gets at times that taking your own life without a good cause is the greatest tragity of all. Finally, I wish to leave you with something that I learned from this experience. Remember to forgive those who have wronged you, and try to make, if possible, peace with everyone that you can. Especially, those who are your family and friends. Nothing is more tragic than what happened in my sisters' case. I'm not going to get into details and specifics, but one thing I can say is that my oldest sister was troubled. In her death she left behind a lot of unsettled arguments with my step father, my younger step sisters, her grandparents, and things were said in the heat of the moment to each other that can never be taken back or settled in this life time. My youngest step sister, for example, vowed never to see my oldest step sister again in this life time, and now, of course, she never will. My youngest step sister has to live with the guilt of allowing her personal feelings get in the way of making peace with her sister when she could have. Moreover, she now realises she wasn't there for her sister when she went over the emotional brink and took her own life when she needed her family, her loved ones, more than ever. So the lesson I want to pass on to each and every single one of you is don't let your anger, your personal differences, etc go so far that you have to live each and every day of your life regretting the things you have said and done. Make your peace while you have time, and tell those you love that you love them. Let them know you care regardless of how angry you might be at them. You will never know when tomorrow is simply too late to say, "I'm sorry. I love you." --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listi
[Audyssey] Papa Sangre review
Hi all, I tried to post a review of Papa Sangre on the list last night but it was to large. So, I posted it on the audiogames.net forum instead. http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=43920#p43920 Enjoy. Karl --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Some Extremely Sad News
Hi Muhammed, Yes. Basically, that kind of ruling is up to the coroner's office. At the moment the coroner has declared it a suicide by a self-inflicted gunshot to the head. If you don't mind I'd really not like to talk about this. Especially, on list. I just want people to know what is going on, and if I go no mail for a few days you will know why I have left the list for a while. Thanks. On 12/19/10, Shiny protector wrote: > Thomas, when you mean the police, do you mean forensic scientists? > - Original Message - > From: "Thomas Ward" > To: "Gamers Discussion list" > Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 6:12 PM > Subject: [Audyssey] Some Extremely Sad News > > >> Dear list, >> >> I regret to inform you that there has been a very very tragic death in >> my family this weekend. Last night my mom called me and told me that >> my oldest step sister died under extremely tragic circomstances. At >> this point in time the police are ruling it out is a suicide. To say >> that this comes as a shocking suprise for the family and is very sad >> is an understatement. >> >> Although, my step sister and I were never close I still feel sad and >> extremely disappointed in how she chose to end her life. I feel >> extremely sorry for my neace who will be cellibrating this and every >> other Christmas without her mother. I also feel deeply sorry for my >> step father who lost a daughter, and my surviving step sisters who >> lost one of their sisters. For them Christmas will never ever be the >> same. For those of you who have faith in a religious background please >> pray for them in this time of morning and grief. Also pray for my step >> sister that perhaps she can find happiness in death that she never >> could in this life time. Moreover, never forget to tell your closest >> ffriends, family, and other loved ones that you love them. Remember >> that there is nothing more precious than life, and that no matter how >> bad life gets at times that taking your own life without a good cause >> is the greatest tragity of all. >> >> Finally, I wish to leave you with something that I learned from this >> experience. Remember to forgive those who have wronged you, and try to >> make, if possible, peace with everyone that you can. Especially, those >> who are your family and friends. Nothing is more tragic than what >> happened in my sisters' case. >> >> I'm not going to get into details and specifics, but one thing I can >> say is that my oldest sister was troubled. In her death she left >> behind a lot of unsettled arguments with my step father, my younger >> step sisters, her grandparents, and things were said in the heat of >> the moment to each other that can never be taken back or settled in >> this life time. My youngest step sister, for example, vowed never to >> see my oldest step sister again in this life time, and now, of course, >> she never will. My youngest step sister has to live with the guilt of >> allowing her personal feelings get in the way of making peace with her >> sister when she could have. Moreover, she now realises she wasn't >> there for her sister when she went over the emotional brink and took >> her own life when she needed her family, her loved ones, more than >> ever. >> >> So the lesson I want to pass on to each and every single one of you is >> don't let your anger, your personal differences, etc go so far that >> you have to live each and every day of your life regretting the things >> you have said and done. Make your peace while you have time, and tell >> those you love that you love them. Let them know you care regardless >> of how angry you might be at them. You will never know when tomorrow >> is simply too late to say, "I'm sorry. I love you." >> >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >> list, >> please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. >> > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/ga
Re: [Audyssey] papasangre and itouch 3g
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Re: [Audyssey] Some Extremely Sad News
Hi Tom, I'm really sorry to hear about your news, it's always heart-breaking when someone you love dies, but especially if it happens around Christmas time, it has happened to me although in my case the lady we lost was friends with us all so there wern't any bad feelings. I wish I could do something to help you, but I hope you can accept my condolences and that of my family and friends, we are all praying for you and your family. I will also send some healing tonight when I do my meditation, I just wish I could do more. My heart goes out to you and your family. Best wishes from Lori. - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 6:12 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Some Extremely Sad News Dear list, I regret to inform you that there has been a very very tragic death in my family this weekend. Last night my mom called me and told me that my oldest step sister died under extremely tragic circomstances. At this point in time the police are ruling it out is a suicide. To say that this comes as a shocking suprise for the family and is very sad is an understatement. Although, my step sister and I were never close I still feel sad and extremely disappointed in how she chose to end her life. I feel extremely sorry for my neace who will be cellibrating this and every other Christmas without her mother. I also feel deeply sorry for my step father who lost a daughter, and my surviving step sisters who lost one of their sisters. For them Christmas will never ever be the same. For those of you who have faith in a religious background please pray for them in this time of morning and grief. Also pray for my step sister that perhaps she can find happiness in death that she never could in this life time. Moreover, never forget to tell your closest ffriends, family, and other loved ones that you love them. Remember that there is nothing more precious than life, and that no matter how bad life gets at times that taking your own life without a good cause is the greatest tragity of all. Finally, I wish to leave you with something that I learned from this experience. Remember to forgive those who have wronged you, and try to make, if possible, peace with everyone that you can. Especially, those who are your family and friends. Nothing is more tragic than what happened in my sisters' case. I'm not going to get into details and specifics, but one thing I can say is that my oldest sister was troubled. In her death she left behind a lot of unsettled arguments with my step father, my younger step sisters, her grandparents, and things were said in the heat of the moment to each other that can never be taken back or settled in this life time. My youngest step sister, for example, vowed never to see my oldest step sister again in this life time, and now, of course, she never will. My youngest step sister has to live with the guilt of allowing her personal feelings get in the way of making peace with her sister when she could have. Moreover, she now realises she wasn't there for her sister when she went over the emotional brink and took her own life when she needed her family, her loved ones, more than ever. So the lesson I want to pass on to each and every single one of you is don't let your anger, your personal differences, etc go so far that you have to live each and every day of your life regretting the things you have said and done. Make your peace while you have time, and tell those you love that you love them. Let them know you care regardless of how angry you might be at them. You will never know when tomorrow is simply too late to say, "I'm sorry. I love you." --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Some Extremely Sad News
Hi Nick, That was beautifully said. That has even encouraged me. Thank you. Thomas, very sad news indeed. It's one thing having a family member die through illness, but it's another story when it comes to suicide. I feel sorry for your whole family, especially your sister. I will be praying for you all. All my best, Damien. - Original Message - From: "Nick Helms" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 6:34 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Some Extremely Sad News Thomas, I'm really sorry to hear of the death in your family. You and your family are in my prayers, and, to all who read this who are in a dark place in your life right now, Find a friend or family member who cares. It feels great to talk about it, and even better to have someone to help you to resolve whatever issues you're trying to deal with. My point is that you can come out of your shell, and make peace with those you care about, and live a great life. Don't think that there's no way out, or that you are worth nothing, or that taking your own life would help you or the people you know. That's complete crap. You can work through it, no matter how hopeless you think your situation is. So take those first stepps. Taking your own life is not the way to go, and I'm terebly sorry that Thomas's sister felt that taking her own life was the only way out. In the words of Aaron Lewis "Falling is easy, it's getting back up that becomes the problem. And if you believe you can find a way out, then you've solved your problem." Never give up. Find someone to talk to and work with, and pull yourself back up. It's worth it, I promise. And Thomas, I'm so sorry about your stepsister. Again, you and your family are in my prayers. On 12/19/10, peter Mahach wrote: Just wanna say I agree with everything you said... and I pray for you - Original Message - From: "Mike Maslo" To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 7:18 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Some Extremely Sad News Thomas: Let me say that I fully agree with every word you have said. A loved one I am extremely close to lost her mother this past Tuesday and those things you said hit home for her and the family. My thoughts and prayers go to you and the entire family and those who were affected by this tragedy. May God bless each and every one on the list. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 12:13 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] Some Extremely Sad News Dear list, I regret to inform you that there has been a very very tragic death in my family this weekend. Last night my mom called me and told me that my oldest step sister died under extremely tragic circomstances. At this point in time the police are ruling it out is a suicide. To say that this comes as a shocking suprise for the family and is very sad is an understatement. Although, my step sister and I were never close I still feel sad and extremely disappointed in how she chose to end her life. I feel extremely sorry for my neace who will be cellibrating this and every other Christmas without her mother. I also feel deeply sorry for my step father who lost a daughter, and my surviving step sisters who lost one of their sisters. For them Christmas will never ever be the same. For those of you who have faith in a religious background please pray for them in this time of morning and grief. Also pray for my step sister that perhaps she can find happiness in death that she never could in this life time. Moreover, never forget to tell your closest ffriends, family, and other loved ones that you love them. Remember that there is nothing more precious than life, and that no matter how bad life gets at times that taking your own life without a good cause is the greatest tragity of all. Finally, I wish to leave you with something that I learned from this experience. Remember to forgive those who have wronged you, and try to make, if possible, peace with everyone that you can. Especially, those who are your family and friends. Nothing is more tragic than what happened in my sisters' case. I'm not going to get into details and specifics, but one thing I can say is that my oldest sister was troubled. In her death she left behind a lot of unsettled arguments with my step father, my younger step sisters, her grandparents, and things were said in the heat of the moment to each other that can never be taken back or settled in this life time. My youngest step sister, for example, vowed never to see my oldest step sister again in this life time, and now, of course, she never will. My youngest step sister has to live with the guilt of allowing her personal feelings get in the way of making peace with her sister when she could have. Moreover, she now realises she wasn't there for her sister when she went over the emotional brink and took her own life when she
Re: [Audyssey] Registration features of BGT
Hi Thomas, As far as name registrations go it doesn't have to be a matter of physically cracking the game. It could simply be that there is a customer who gives a key to a friend and thereby leaves room for that friend to pass around the key until it eventually gets to a website maintainer who puts it up for download. Is it really worth making it different for each game just in case all of your customers are honest enough to keep their key to themselves? It's like Philip's article says, if they're going to crack it, they're going to crack it anyway regardless. Regards, Damien. - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 6:29 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registration features of BGT Hi Muhammed, It really comes down to basic security. As Philip explained in his article the more generic you make your registration system the easier it is to crack not just one of your games, but all of them with one simple crack. With an automated security system the registration process, I.E. the formula for creating registration keys, has to be fairly generic in principle. If someone should ever figure out the right formula/process they can create a quick and dirty random generator that not only cracks game x, but will consistantly work for all of your games. Since I create a new random key generator on a per game basis I can at least be assured the same key won't be used for two different products, and a cracker will have to figure out the means of how I generated that key on a per game basis. It is far from a full proof system, but I'll make them work harder to discover how I did it. In short, it adds a little more security to a weak security system. On 12/19/10, Shiny protector wrote: Hi Thomas, I changed my mind. Yes name and key is better. But in stead of you just sitting down and generating keys, why don't you have an automatic system like Munawar does? In that way it would be quicker. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] papasangre and itouch 3g
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Re: [Audyssey] Some Extremely Sad News
Thomas, when you mean the police, do you mean forensic scientists? - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 6:12 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Some Extremely Sad News Dear list, I regret to inform you that there has been a very very tragic death in my family this weekend. Last night my mom called me and told me that my oldest step sister died under extremely tragic circomstances. At this point in time the police are ruling it out is a suicide. To say that this comes as a shocking suprise for the family and is very sad is an understatement. Although, my step sister and I were never close I still feel sad and extremely disappointed in how she chose to end her life. I feel extremely sorry for my neace who will be cellibrating this and every other Christmas without her mother. I also feel deeply sorry for my step father who lost a daughter, and my surviving step sisters who lost one of their sisters. For them Christmas will never ever be the same. For those of you who have faith in a religious background please pray for them in this time of morning and grief. Also pray for my step sister that perhaps she can find happiness in death that she never could in this life time. Moreover, never forget to tell your closest ffriends, family, and other loved ones that you love them. Remember that there is nothing more precious than life, and that no matter how bad life gets at times that taking your own life without a good cause is the greatest tragity of all. Finally, I wish to leave you with something that I learned from this experience. Remember to forgive those who have wronged you, and try to make, if possible, peace with everyone that you can. Especially, those who are your family and friends. Nothing is more tragic than what happened in my sisters' case. I'm not going to get into details and specifics, but one thing I can say is that my oldest sister was troubled. In her death she left behind a lot of unsettled arguments with my step father, my younger step sisters, her grandparents, and things were said in the heat of the moment to each other that can never be taken back or settled in this life time. My youngest step sister, for example, vowed never to see my oldest step sister again in this life time, and now, of course, she never will. My youngest step sister has to live with the guilt of allowing her personal feelings get in the way of making peace with her sister when she could have. Moreover, she now realises she wasn't there for her sister when she went over the emotional brink and took her own life when she needed her family, her loved ones, more than ever. So the lesson I want to pass on to each and every single one of you is don't let your anger, your personal differences, etc go so far that you have to live each and every day of your life regretting the things you have said and done. Make your peace while you have time, and tell those you love that you love them. Let them know you care regardless of how angry you might be at them. You will never know when tomorrow is simply too late to say, "I'm sorry. I love you." --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Some Extremely Sad News
Ah ok. - Original Message - From: "Nick Helms" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 6:39 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Some Extremely Sad News I believe it's true. I speak from experience. On 12/19/10, Shiny protector wrote: Nick, that is extremely true. Don't believe that their is know choice. Always think of the best. - Original Message - From: "Nick Helms" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 6:34 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Some Extremely Sad News Thomas, I'm really sorry to hear of the death in your family. You and your family are in my prayers, and, to all who read this who are in a dark place in your life right now, Find a friend or family member who cares. It feels great to talk about it, and even better to have someone to help you to resolve whatever issues you're trying to deal with. My point is that you can come out of your shell, and make peace with those you care about, and live a great life. Don't think that there's no way out, or that you are worth nothing, or that taking your own life would help you or the people you know. That's complete crap. You can work through it, no matter how hopeless you think your situation is. So take those first stepps. Taking your own life is not the way to go, and I'm terebly sorry that Thomas's sister felt that taking her own life was the only way out. In the words of Aaron Lewis "Falling is easy, it's getting back up that becomes the problem. And if you believe you can find a way out, then you've solved your problem." Never give up. Find someone to talk to and work with, and pull yourself back up. It's worth it, I promise. And Thomas, I'm so sorry about your stepsister. Again, you and your family are in my prayers. On 12/19/10, peter Mahach wrote: Just wanna say I agree with everything you said... and I pray for you - Original Message - From: "Mike Maslo" To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 7:18 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Some Extremely Sad News Thomas: Let me say that I fully agree with every word you have said. A loved one I am extremely close to lost her mother this past Tuesday and those things you said hit home for her and the family. My thoughts and prayers go to you and the entire family and those who were affected by this tragedy. May God bless each and every one on the list. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 12:13 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] Some Extremely Sad News Dear list, I regret to inform you that there has been a very very tragic death in my family this weekend. Last night my mom called me and told me that my oldest step sister died under extremely tragic circomstances. At this point in time the police are ruling it out is a suicide. To say that this comes as a shocking suprise for the family and is very sad is an understatement. Although, my step sister and I were never close I still feel sad and extremely disappointed in how she chose to end her life. I feel extremely sorry for my neace who will be cellibrating this and every other Christmas without her mother. I also feel deeply sorry for my step father who lost a daughter, and my surviving step sisters who lost one of their sisters. For them Christmas will never ever be the same. For those of you who have faith in a religious background please pray for them in this time of morning and grief. Also pray for my step sister that perhaps she can find happiness in death that she never could in this life time. Moreover, never forget to tell your closest ffriends, family, and other loved ones that you love them. Remember that there is nothing more precious than life, and that no matter how bad life gets at times that taking your own life without a good cause is the greatest tragity of all. Finally, I wish to leave you with something that I learned from this experience. Remember to forgive those who have wronged you, and try to make, if possible, peace with everyone that you can. Especially, those who are your family and friends. Nothing is more tragic than what happened in my sisters' case. I'm not going to get into details and specifics, but one thing I can say is that my oldest sister was troubled. In her death she left behind a lot of unsettled arguments with my step father, my younger step sisters, her grandparents, and things were said in the heat of the moment to each other that can never be taken back or settled in this life time. My youngest step sister, for example, vowed never to see my oldest step sister again in this life time, and now, of course, she never will. My youngest step sister has to live with the guilt of allowing her personal feelings get in the way of making peace with her sister when she could have. Moreover, she now realises she wasn't there for her sister when she went over the emotional brink and took
Re: [Audyssey] Some Extremely Sad News
Praz to the gOD FOR BETTER TIME FOR HER. aCTUALLZ, IąM AGREE WITH EVERZTHING WHAT ZOU WROTE. i AM THINKING IN THE SAME WAZ. iF ZOU ARE LOVE SOMEONE, TELL IT, CAUSE CAN BE TOO LATE FOR THIS KIND OF WORDS. sAD TEWS, BUT MAZBE GOD NEEDS HER NOW, AND PROBABLZ IF GOD DECIDED TO DO IT, IT WILL BE BETTER FOR HER, I BELIEVE. i BELIEVE THIS WILL BE GREAT LESSON AS ZOU WROTE, FOR EVERZONE WHO THINKING IN ANOTHER WAZ. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Some Extremely Sad News
I believe it's true. I speak from experience. On 12/19/10, Shiny protector wrote: > Nick, that is extremely true. Don't believe that their is know choice. > Always think of the best. > - Original Message - > From: "Nick Helms" > To: "Gamers Discussion list" > Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 6:34 PM > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Some Extremely Sad News > > >> Thomas, >> I'm really sorry to hear of the death in your family. >> You and your family are in my prayers, and, to all who read this who >> are in a dark place in your life right now, Find a friend or family >> member who cares. It feels great to talk about it, and even better to >> have someone to help you to resolve whatever issues you're trying to >> deal with. My point is that you can come out of your shell, and make >> peace with those you care about, and live a great life. Don't think >> that there's no way out, or that you are worth nothing, or that taking >> your own life would help you or the people you know. That's complete >> crap. You can work through it, no matter how hopeless you think your >> situation is. So take those first stepps. Taking your own life is not >> the way to go, and I'm terebly sorry that Thomas's sister felt that >> taking her own life was the only way out. >> In the words of Aaron Lewis "Falling is easy, it's getting back up >> that becomes the problem. And if you believe you can find a way out, >> then you've solved your problem." >> Never give up. Find someone to talk to and work with, and pull >> yourself back up. It's worth it, I promise. >> And Thomas, I'm so sorry about your stepsister. Again, you and your >> family are in my prayers. >> >> On 12/19/10, peter Mahach wrote: >>> Just wanna say I agree with everything you said... and I pray for you >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Mike Maslo" >>> To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" >>> Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 7:18 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Some Extremely Sad News >>> >>> Thomas: Let me say that I fully agree with every word you have said. A loved one I am extremely close to lost her mother this past Tuesday and those things you said hit home for her and the family. My thoughts and prayers go to you and the entire family and those who were affected by this tragedy. May God bless each and every one on the list. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 12:13 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] Some Extremely Sad News Dear list, I regret to inform you that there has been a very very tragic death in my family this weekend. Last night my mom called me and told me that my oldest step sister died under extremely tragic circomstances. At this point in time the police are ruling it out is a suicide. To say that this comes as a shocking suprise for the family and is very sad is an understatement. Although, my step sister and I were never close I still feel sad and extremely disappointed in how she chose to end her life. I feel extremely sorry for my neace who will be cellibrating this and every other Christmas without her mother. I also feel deeply sorry for my step father who lost a daughter, and my surviving step sisters who lost one of their sisters. For them Christmas will never ever be the same. For those of you who have faith in a religious background please pray for them in this time of morning and grief. Also pray for my step sister that perhaps she can find happiness in death that she never could in this life time. Moreover, never forget to tell your closest ffriends, family, and other loved ones that you love them. Remember that there is nothing more precious than life, and that no matter how bad life gets at times that taking your own life without a good cause is the greatest tragity of all. Finally, I wish to leave you with something that I learned from this experience. Remember to forgive those who have wronged you, and try to make, if possible, peace with everyone that you can. Especially, those who are your family and friends. Nothing is more tragic than what happened in my sisters' case. I'm not going to get into details and specifics, but one thing I can say is that my oldest sister was troubled. In her death she left behind a lot of unsettled arguments with my step father, my younger step sisters, her grandparents, and things were said in the heat of the moment to each other that can never be taken back or settled in this life time. My youngest step sister, for example, vowed never to see my oldest step sister again in this life time, and now, of course, she never will. My youngest step sister has to live with
Re: [Audyssey] Some Extremely Sad News
Nick, that is extremely true. Don't believe that their is know choice. Always think of the best. - Original Message - From: "Nick Helms" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 6:34 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Some Extremely Sad News Thomas, I'm really sorry to hear of the death in your family. You and your family are in my prayers, and, to all who read this who are in a dark place in your life right now, Find a friend or family member who cares. It feels great to talk about it, and even better to have someone to help you to resolve whatever issues you're trying to deal with. My point is that you can come out of your shell, and make peace with those you care about, and live a great life. Don't think that there's no way out, or that you are worth nothing, or that taking your own life would help you or the people you know. That's complete crap. You can work through it, no matter how hopeless you think your situation is. So take those first stepps. Taking your own life is not the way to go, and I'm terebly sorry that Thomas's sister felt that taking her own life was the only way out. In the words of Aaron Lewis "Falling is easy, it's getting back up that becomes the problem. And if you believe you can find a way out, then you've solved your problem." Never give up. Find someone to talk to and work with, and pull yourself back up. It's worth it, I promise. And Thomas, I'm so sorry about your stepsister. Again, you and your family are in my prayers. On 12/19/10, peter Mahach wrote: Just wanna say I agree with everything you said... and I pray for you - Original Message - From: "Mike Maslo" To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 7:18 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Some Extremely Sad News Thomas: Let me say that I fully agree with every word you have said. A loved one I am extremely close to lost her mother this past Tuesday and those things you said hit home for her and the family. My thoughts and prayers go to you and the entire family and those who were affected by this tragedy. May God bless each and every one on the list. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 12:13 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] Some Extremely Sad News Dear list, I regret to inform you that there has been a very very tragic death in my family this weekend. Last night my mom called me and told me that my oldest step sister died under extremely tragic circomstances. At this point in time the police are ruling it out is a suicide. To say that this comes as a shocking suprise for the family and is very sad is an understatement. Although, my step sister and I were never close I still feel sad and extremely disappointed in how she chose to end her life. I feel extremely sorry for my neace who will be cellibrating this and every other Christmas without her mother. I also feel deeply sorry for my step father who lost a daughter, and my surviving step sisters who lost one of their sisters. For them Christmas will never ever be the same. For those of you who have faith in a religious background please pray for them in this time of morning and grief. Also pray for my step sister that perhaps she can find happiness in death that she never could in this life time. Moreover, never forget to tell your closest ffriends, family, and other loved ones that you love them. Remember that there is nothing more precious than life, and that no matter how bad life gets at times that taking your own life without a good cause is the greatest tragity of all. Finally, I wish to leave you with something that I learned from this experience. Remember to forgive those who have wronged you, and try to make, if possible, peace with everyone that you can. Especially, those who are your family and friends. Nothing is more tragic than what happened in my sisters' case. I'm not going to get into details and specifics, but one thing I can say is that my oldest sister was troubled. In her death she left behind a lot of unsettled arguments with my step father, my younger step sisters, her grandparents, and things were said in the heat of the moment to each other that can never be taken back or settled in this life time. My youngest step sister, for example, vowed never to see my oldest step sister again in this life time, and now, of course, she never will. My youngest step sister has to live with the guilt of allowing her personal feelings get in the way of making peace with her sister when she could have. Moreover, she now realises she wasn't there for her sister when she went over the emotional brink and took her own life when she needed her family, her loved ones, more than ever. So the lesson I want to pass on to each and every single one of you is don't let your anger, your personal differences, etc go so far that you have to live each and every day of you
Re: [Audyssey] Some Extremely Sad News
Hi Thomas, I agree with Peter here. I understand how your feeling now. Don't let your sadness continue for the rest of your life. This is not a rude intention, but the trooth I believe is that life is life. You'd have hard parts, parts your sad in, parts your happy in. So please calm down a little bit. I understand how upseting it must be for you. But this time will pass. - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 6:12 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Some Extremely Sad News Dear list, I regret to inform you that there has been a very very tragic death in my family this weekend. Last night my mom called me and told me that my oldest step sister died under extremely tragic circomstances. At this point in time the police are ruling it out is a suicide. To say that this comes as a shocking suprise for the family and is very sad is an understatement. Although, my step sister and I were never close I still feel sad and extremely disappointed in how she chose to end her life. I feel extremely sorry for my neace who will be cellibrating this and every other Christmas without her mother. I also feel deeply sorry for my step father who lost a daughter, and my surviving step sisters who lost one of their sisters. For them Christmas will never ever be the same. For those of you who have faith in a religious background please pray for them in this time of morning and grief. Also pray for my step sister that perhaps she can find happiness in death that she never could in this life time. Moreover, never forget to tell your closest ffriends, family, and other loved ones that you love them. Remember that there is nothing more precious than life, and that no matter how bad life gets at times that taking your own life without a good cause is the greatest tragity of all. Finally, I wish to leave you with something that I learned from this experience. Remember to forgive those who have wronged you, and try to make, if possible, peace with everyone that you can. Especially, those who are your family and friends. Nothing is more tragic than what happened in my sisters' case. I'm not going to get into details and specifics, but one thing I can say is that my oldest sister was troubled. In her death she left behind a lot of unsettled arguments with my step father, my younger step sisters, her grandparents, and things were said in the heat of the moment to each other that can never be taken back or settled in this life time. My youngest step sister, for example, vowed never to see my oldest step sister again in this life time, and now, of course, she never will. My youngest step sister has to live with the guilt of allowing her personal feelings get in the way of making peace with her sister when she could have. Moreover, she now realises she wasn't there for her sister when she went over the emotional brink and took her own life when she needed her family, her loved ones, more than ever. So the lesson I want to pass on to each and every single one of you is don't let your anger, your personal differences, etc go so far that you have to live each and every day of your life regretting the things you have said and done. Make your peace while you have time, and tell those you love that you love them. Let them know you care regardless of how angry you might be at them. You will never know when tomorrow is simply too late to say, "I'm sorry. I love you." --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Some Extremely Sad News
Thomas, I'm really sorry to hear of the death in your family. You and your family are in my prayers, and, to all who read this who are in a dark place in your life right now, Find a friend or family member who cares. It feels great to talk about it, and even better to have someone to help you to resolve whatever issues you're trying to deal with. My point is that you can come out of your shell, and make peace with those you care about, and live a great life. Don't think that there's no way out, or that you are worth nothing, or that taking your own life would help you or the people you know. That's complete crap. You can work through it, no matter how hopeless you think your situation is. So take those first stepps. Taking your own life is not the way to go, and I'm terebly sorry that Thomas's sister felt that taking her own life was the only way out. In the words of Aaron Lewis "Falling is easy, it's getting back up that becomes the problem. And if you believe you can find a way out, then you've solved your problem." Never give up. Find someone to talk to and work with, and pull yourself back up. It's worth it, I promise. And Thomas, I'm so sorry about your stepsister. Again, you and your family are in my prayers. On 12/19/10, peter Mahach wrote: > Just wanna say I agree with everything you said... and I pray for you > - Original Message - > From: "Mike Maslo" > To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" > Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 7:18 PM > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Some Extremely Sad News > > >> Thomas: >> >> Let me say that I fully agree with every word you have said. >> >> A loved one I am extremely close to lost her mother this past Tuesday and >> those things you said hit home for her and the family. >> >> My thoughts and prayers go to you and the entire family and those who were >> affected by this tragedy. >> >> May God bless each and every one on the list. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On >> Behalf Of Thomas Ward >> Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 12:13 PM >> To: Gamers Discussion list >> Subject: [Audyssey] Some Extremely Sad News >> >> Dear list, >> >> I regret to inform you that there has been a very very tragic death in >> my family this weekend. Last night my mom called me and told me that >> my oldest step sister died under extremely tragic circomstances. At >> this point in time the police are ruling it out is a suicide. To say >> that this comes as a shocking suprise for the family and is very sad >> is an understatement. >> >> Although, my step sister and I were never close I still feel sad and >> extremely disappointed in how she chose to end her life. I feel >> extremely sorry for my neace who will be cellibrating this and every >> other Christmas without her mother. I also feel deeply sorry for my >> step father who lost a daughter, and my surviving step sisters who >> lost one of their sisters. For them Christmas will never ever be the >> same. For those of you who have faith in a religious background please >> pray for them in this time of morning and grief. Also pray for my step >> sister that perhaps she can find happiness in death that she never >> could in this life time. Moreover, never forget to tell your closest >> ffriends, family, and other loved ones that you love them. Remember >> that there is nothing more precious than life, and that no matter how >> bad life gets at times that taking your own life without a good cause >> is the greatest tragity of all. >> >> Finally, I wish to leave you with something that I learned from this >> experience. Remember to forgive those who have wronged you, and try to >> make, if possible, peace with everyone that you can. Especially, those >> who are your family and friends. Nothing is more tragic than what >> happened in my sisters' case. >> >> I'm not going to get into details and specifics, but one thing I can >> say is that my oldest sister was troubled. In her death she left >> behind a lot of unsettled arguments with my step father, my younger >> step sisters, her grandparents, and things were said in the heat of >> the moment to each other that can never be taken back or settled in >> this life time. My youngest step sister, for example, vowed never to >> see my oldest step sister again in this life time, and now, of course, >> she never will. My youngest step sister has to live with the guilt of >> allowing her personal feelings get in the way of making peace with her >> sister when she could have. Moreover, she now realises she wasn't >> there for her sister when she went over the emotional brink and took >> her own life when she needed her family, her loved ones, more than >> ever. >> >> So the lesson I want to pass on to each and every single one of you is >> don't let your anger, your personal differences, etc go so far that >> you have to live each and every day of your life regretting the things >> you have said and done. Make your peace while
Re: [Audyssey] Registration features of BGT
Hi Muhammed, It really comes down to basic security. As Philip explained in his article the more generic you make your registration system the easier it is to crack not just one of your games, but all of them with one simple crack. With an automated security system the registration process, I.E. the formula for creating registration keys, has to be fairly generic in principle. If someone should ever figure out the right formula/process they can create a quick and dirty random generator that not only cracks game x, but will consistantly work for all of your games. Since I create a new random key generator on a per game basis I can at least be assured the same key won't be used for two different products, and a cracker will have to figure out the means of how I generated that key on a per game basis. It is far from a full proof system, but I'll make them work harder to discover how I did it. In short, it adds a little more security to a weak security system. On 12/19/10, Shiny protector wrote: > Hi Thomas, > I changed my mind. Yes name and key is better. But in stead of you just > sitting down and generating keys, why don't you have an automatic system > like Munawar does? In that way it would be quicker. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Registration features of BGT
Bryan, I was saying that why doesn't Thomas try to do that? - Original Message - From: "Bryan Peterson" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 5:58 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registration features of BGT I think Philip does as well. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: "Shiny protector" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 10:49 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registration features of BGT Hi Thomas, I changed my mind. Yes name and key is better. But in stead of you just sitting down and generating keys, why don't you have an automatic system like Munawar does? In that way it would be quicker. - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Philip Bennefall" ; "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 4:43 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registration features of BGT Hi Philip, Well, I for one, whole heartedly agree with your assessement. In fact, I've been writing an article I'm going to eventually post on my developer's site that pretty much says the same thing in more depth. Bottom line, no matter what you do there are security risks, and a determined cracker will break your security eventually. So the key here is to create a system that will keep your honest customers honest, and as for the dishonest ones don't worry about them. A dishonest customer will do whatever is necessary to pirate your software anyway. It is just one of the many costs of doing business. As both a computer user and software developer I am most comfortable with a name and key system myself. Yes, it is less secure, but the advantages out way the disadvantages. Everytime I buy a new computer, or replace hardware in my PC I don't have to obtain new authorizations for all of my software, nor do I have to be online while I register it all. As a developer the name and key system works easier because all I have to do is put their name into a key generator and it prints out a key. I can then mail that key to the customer and they can use it on one or a hundred machines that they own without that key failing. That means since they have the freedom of choice how to use their key, with in legal means of course, that I don't have to constantly generate new keys because someone purchased a new PC, changed some hardware that caused the registration program to change the hardware ID, or have to write licensing scripts for my website which aren't really as secure as they could be. While online licensing is preferable to a hardware ID system I've never really liked it much as a personal user. It is, well, an inconvenience to have to get online just to license your software. One or two programs is alright, but if everything worked that way it would really suck. Smile. On 12/19/10, Philip Bennefall wrote: Hi all, The release of BGT 1.0 is drawing near, and I am currently working on the registration functionality that will be available to game writers. I have written an article on the subject which I was wondering if you could all give me your opinions on, or at least those of you interested in game creation. Smile. The article can be found at: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5121962/Registration.txt Your thoughts and feedback would be very much appreciated! Kind regards, Philip Bennefall --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://
Re: [Audyssey] Some Extremely Sad News
Just wanna say I agree with everything you said... and I pray for you - Original Message - From: "Mike Maslo" To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 7:18 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Some Extremely Sad News Thomas: Let me say that I fully agree with every word you have said. A loved one I am extremely close to lost her mother this past Tuesday and those things you said hit home for her and the family. My thoughts and prayers go to you and the entire family and those who were affected by this tragedy. May God bless each and every one on the list. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 12:13 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] Some Extremely Sad News Dear list, I regret to inform you that there has been a very very tragic death in my family this weekend. Last night my mom called me and told me that my oldest step sister died under extremely tragic circomstances. At this point in time the police are ruling it out is a suicide. To say that this comes as a shocking suprise for the family and is very sad is an understatement. Although, my step sister and I were never close I still feel sad and extremely disappointed in how she chose to end her life. I feel extremely sorry for my neace who will be cellibrating this and every other Christmas without her mother. I also feel deeply sorry for my step father who lost a daughter, and my surviving step sisters who lost one of their sisters. For them Christmas will never ever be the same. For those of you who have faith in a religious background please pray for them in this time of morning and grief. Also pray for my step sister that perhaps she can find happiness in death that she never could in this life time. Moreover, never forget to tell your closest ffriends, family, and other loved ones that you love them. Remember that there is nothing more precious than life, and that no matter how bad life gets at times that taking your own life without a good cause is the greatest tragity of all. Finally, I wish to leave you with something that I learned from this experience. Remember to forgive those who have wronged you, and try to make, if possible, peace with everyone that you can. Especially, those who are your family and friends. Nothing is more tragic than what happened in my sisters' case. I'm not going to get into details and specifics, but one thing I can say is that my oldest sister was troubled. In her death she left behind a lot of unsettled arguments with my step father, my younger step sisters, her grandparents, and things were said in the heat of the moment to each other that can never be taken back or settled in this life time. My youngest step sister, for example, vowed never to see my oldest step sister again in this life time, and now, of course, she never will. My youngest step sister has to live with the guilt of allowing her personal feelings get in the way of making peace with her sister when she could have. Moreover, she now realises she wasn't there for her sister when she went over the emotional brink and took her own life when she needed her family, her loved ones, more than ever. So the lesson I want to pass on to each and every single one of you is don't let your anger, your personal differences, etc go so far that you have to live each and every day of your life regretting the things you have said and done. Make your peace while you have time, and tell those you love that you love them. Let them know you care regardless of how angry you might be at them. You will never know when tomorrow is simply too late to say, "I'm sorry. I love you." --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5266 (20100709) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5266 (2
Re: [Audyssey] Some Extremely Sad News
Thomas: Let me say that I fully agree with every word you have said. A loved one I am extremely close to lost her mother this past Tuesday and those things you said hit home for her and the family. My thoughts and prayers go to you and the entire family and those who were affected by this tragedy. May God bless each and every one on the list. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 12:13 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] Some Extremely Sad News Dear list, I regret to inform you that there has been a very very tragic death in my family this weekend. Last night my mom called me and told me that my oldest step sister died under extremely tragic circomstances. At this point in time the police are ruling it out is a suicide. To say that this comes as a shocking suprise for the family and is very sad is an understatement. Although, my step sister and I were never close I still feel sad and extremely disappointed in how she chose to end her life. I feel extremely sorry for my neace who will be cellibrating this and every other Christmas without her mother. I also feel deeply sorry for my step father who lost a daughter, and my surviving step sisters who lost one of their sisters. For them Christmas will never ever be the same. For those of you who have faith in a religious background please pray for them in this time of morning and grief. Also pray for my step sister that perhaps she can find happiness in death that she never could in this life time. Moreover, never forget to tell your closest ffriends, family, and other loved ones that you love them. Remember that there is nothing more precious than life, and that no matter how bad life gets at times that taking your own life without a good cause is the greatest tragity of all. Finally, I wish to leave you with something that I learned from this experience. Remember to forgive those who have wronged you, and try to make, if possible, peace with everyone that you can. Especially, those who are your family and friends. Nothing is more tragic than what happened in my sisters' case. I'm not going to get into details and specifics, but one thing I can say is that my oldest sister was troubled. In her death she left behind a lot of unsettled arguments with my step father, my younger step sisters, her grandparents, and things were said in the heat of the moment to each other that can never be taken back or settled in this life time. My youngest step sister, for example, vowed never to see my oldest step sister again in this life time, and now, of course, she never will. My youngest step sister has to live with the guilt of allowing her personal feelings get in the way of making peace with her sister when she could have. Moreover, she now realises she wasn't there for her sister when she went over the emotional brink and took her own life when she needed her family, her loved ones, more than ever. So the lesson I want to pass on to each and every single one of you is don't let your anger, your personal differences, etc go so far that you have to live each and every day of your life regretting the things you have said and done. Make your peace while you have time, and tell those you love that you love them. Let them know you care regardless of how angry you might be at them. You will never know when tomorrow is simply too late to say, "I'm sorry. I love you." --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Some Extremely Sad News
Dear list, I regret to inform you that there has been a very very tragic death in my family this weekend. Last night my mom called me and told me that my oldest step sister died under extremely tragic circomstances. At this point in time the police are ruling it out is a suicide. To say that this comes as a shocking suprise for the family and is very sad is an understatement. Although, my step sister and I were never close I still feel sad and extremely disappointed in how she chose to end her life. I feel extremely sorry for my neace who will be cellibrating this and every other Christmas without her mother. I also feel deeply sorry for my step father who lost a daughter, and my surviving step sisters who lost one of their sisters. For them Christmas will never ever be the same. For those of you who have faith in a religious background please pray for them in this time of morning and grief. Also pray for my step sister that perhaps she can find happiness in death that she never could in this life time. Moreover, never forget to tell your closest ffriends, family, and other loved ones that you love them. Remember that there is nothing more precious than life, and that no matter how bad life gets at times that taking your own life without a good cause is the greatest tragity of all. Finally, I wish to leave you with something that I learned from this experience. Remember to forgive those who have wronged you, and try to make, if possible, peace with everyone that you can. Especially, those who are your family and friends. Nothing is more tragic than what happened in my sisters' case. I'm not going to get into details and specifics, but one thing I can say is that my oldest sister was troubled. In her death she left behind a lot of unsettled arguments with my step father, my younger step sisters, her grandparents, and things were said in the heat of the moment to each other that can never be taken back or settled in this life time. My youngest step sister, for example, vowed never to see my oldest step sister again in this life time, and now, of course, she never will. My youngest step sister has to live with the guilt of allowing her personal feelings get in the way of making peace with her sister when she could have. Moreover, she now realises she wasn't there for her sister when she went over the emotional brink and took her own life when she needed her family, her loved ones, more than ever. So the lesson I want to pass on to each and every single one of you is don't let your anger, your personal differences, etc go so far that you have to live each and every day of your life regretting the things you have said and done. Make your peace while you have time, and tell those you love that you love them. Let them know you care regardless of how angry you might be at them. You will never know when tomorrow is simply too late to say, "I'm sorry. I love you." --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Registration features of BGT
I think Philip does as well. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: "Shiny protector" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 10:49 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registration features of BGT Hi Thomas, I changed my mind. Yes name and key is better. But in stead of you just sitting down and generating keys, why don't you have an automatic system like Munawar does? In that way it would be quicker. - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Philip Bennefall" ; "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 4:43 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registration features of BGT Hi Philip, Well, I for one, whole heartedly agree with your assessement. In fact, I've been writing an article I'm going to eventually post on my developer's site that pretty much says the same thing in more depth. Bottom line, no matter what you do there are security risks, and a determined cracker will break your security eventually. So the key here is to create a system that will keep your honest customers honest, and as for the dishonest ones don't worry about them. A dishonest customer will do whatever is necessary to pirate your software anyway. It is just one of the many costs of doing business. As both a computer user and software developer I am most comfortable with a name and key system myself. Yes, it is less secure, but the advantages out way the disadvantages. Everytime I buy a new computer, or replace hardware in my PC I don't have to obtain new authorizations for all of my software, nor do I have to be online while I register it all. As a developer the name and key system works easier because all I have to do is put their name into a key generator and it prints out a key. I can then mail that key to the customer and they can use it on one or a hundred machines that they own without that key failing. That means since they have the freedom of choice how to use their key, with in legal means of course, that I don't have to constantly generate new keys because someone purchased a new PC, changed some hardware that caused the registration program to change the hardware ID, or have to write licensing scripts for my website which aren't really as secure as they could be. While online licensing is preferable to a hardware ID system I've never really liked it much as a personal user. It is, well, an inconvenience to have to get online just to license your software. One or two programs is alright, but if everything worked that way it would really suck. Smile. On 12/19/10, Philip Bennefall wrote: Hi all, The release of BGT 1.0 is drawing near, and I am currently working on the registration functionality that will be available to game writers. I have written an article on the subject which I was wondering if you could all give me your opinions on, or at least those of you interested in game creation. Smile. The article can be found at: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5121962/Registration.txt Your thoughts and feedback would be very much appreciated! Kind regards, Philip Bennefall --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please sen
Re: [Audyssey] Registration features of BGT
Hi Thomas, I changed my mind. Yes name and key is better. But in stead of you just sitting down and generating keys, why don't you have an automatic system like Munawar does? In that way it would be quicker. - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Philip Bennefall" ; "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 4:43 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registration features of BGT Hi Philip, Well, I for one, whole heartedly agree with your assessement. In fact, I've been writing an article I'm going to eventually post on my developer's site that pretty much says the same thing in more depth. Bottom line, no matter what you do there are security risks, and a determined cracker will break your security eventually. So the key here is to create a system that will keep your honest customers honest, and as for the dishonest ones don't worry about them. A dishonest customer will do whatever is necessary to pirate your software anyway. It is just one of the many costs of doing business. As both a computer user and software developer I am most comfortable with a name and key system myself. Yes, it is less secure, but the advantages out way the disadvantages. Everytime I buy a new computer, or replace hardware in my PC I don't have to obtain new authorizations for all of my software, nor do I have to be online while I register it all. As a developer the name and key system works easier because all I have to do is put their name into a key generator and it prints out a key. I can then mail that key to the customer and they can use it on one or a hundred machines that they own without that key failing. That means since they have the freedom of choice how to use their key, with in legal means of course, that I don't have to constantly generate new keys because someone purchased a new PC, changed some hardware that caused the registration program to change the hardware ID, or have to write licensing scripts for my website which aren't really as secure as they could be. While online licensing is preferable to a hardware ID system I've never really liked it much as a personal user. It is, well, an inconvenience to have to get online just to license your software. One or two programs is alright, but if everything worked that way it would really suck. Smile. On 12/19/10, Philip Bennefall wrote: Hi all, The release of BGT 1.0 is drawing near, and I am currently working on the registration functionality that will be available to game writers. I have written an article on the subject which I was wondering if you could all give me your opinions on, or at least those of you interested in game creation. Smile. The article can be found at: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5121962/Registration.txt Your thoughts and feedback would be very much appreciated! Kind regards, Philip Bennefall --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] papasangre and itouch 3g
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Re: [Audyssey] papasangre and itouch 3g
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Re: [Audyssey] papasangre and itouch 3g
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Re: [Audyssey] Registration features of BGT
Hi Philip, Well, I for one, whole heartedly agree with your assessement. In fact, I've been writing an article I'm going to eventually post on my developer's site that pretty much says the same thing in more depth. Bottom line, no matter what you do there are security risks, and a determined cracker will break your security eventually. So the key here is to create a system that will keep your honest customers honest, and as for the dishonest ones don't worry about them. A dishonest customer will do whatever is necessary to pirate your software anyway. It is just one of the many costs of doing business. As both a computer user and software developer I am most comfortable with a name and key system myself. Yes, it is less secure, but the advantages out way the disadvantages. Everytime I buy a new computer, or replace hardware in my PC I don't have to obtain new authorizations for all of my software, nor do I have to be online while I register it all. As a developer the name and key system works easier because all I have to do is put their name into a key generator and it prints out a key. I can then mail that key to the customer and they can use it on one or a hundred machines that they own without that key failing. That means since they have the freedom of choice how to use their key, with in legal means of course, that I don't have to constantly generate new keys because someone purchased a new PC, changed some hardware that caused the registration program to change the hardware ID, or have to write licensing scripts for my website which aren't really as secure as they could be. While online licensing is preferable to a hardware ID system I've never really liked it much as a personal user. It is, well, an inconvenience to have to get online just to license your software. One or two programs is alright, but if everything worked that way it would really suck. Smile. On 12/19/10, Philip Bennefall wrote: > Hi all, > > The release of BGT 1.0 is drawing near, and I am currently working on the > registration functionality that will be available to game writers. I have > written an article on the subject which I was wondering if you could all > give me your opinions on, or at least those of you interested in game > creation. Smile. > > The article can be found at: > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5121962/Registration.txt > > Your thoughts and feedback would be very much appreciated! > > Kind regards, > > Philip Bennefall > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] some problems related to games in java
Hi Hayden, I know. I've seen this problem with some of the PB Games as well, and unfortunately I don't know of any fix. I think it is just one of the many flaws of Philip using a scripting language like Javascript for games rather than something like C++. Javascript was never intended for this type of program, and is mainly used as web scripts and sometimes used as application scripts. Definitely wasn't entended to write full fledged programs. Smile. On 12/19/10, Hayden Presley wrote: > Hi Thomas, > Aaa...thought they were written in java. But thatcertainly doesn't fix my > problem... > > Best Regards, > Hayden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Programming Games was Re: Response From Bavisoft To MyInquiry
Hi Ben,
Well, there is a certain amount of logic involved in where to start.
For example, if I was going to start writing a game today I would
declare or create all the base classes containing all the variables
and functions required by the people, places, and things used in my
project. Next, I would create all the global objects that references
those classes. After that I'd have to have some initialization
function that initializes those objects, and so on. Since every C++
application starts with the main function I would have to define the
main function, and place in it all of my initialization code to load
and start the program and launch the main loop, etc. As you might have
guessed everything is built upon everything else. Before you can build
the house, in this case the program, you have to build the foundation
first. Here is a C++ example using my G3D engine to demonstrate what I
mean.
// Declare audio and window class objects
G3D::Audio g_audio;
G3D::Window g_window;
// Name: main (void).
// Description: Entry point for the application.
int main ()
{
// Draw the application window
g_window.InitializeWindow (800, 600, 32);
// Set the window title
g_window.SetTitle ("Tomb Hunter I","tomb.ico");
// Initialize keyboard support
g_window.InitializeKeyboard ();
// Initialize joystick support
g_window.InitializeJoystick ();
// Initialize mouse support
g_window.InitializeMouse ();
// Initialize the audio support
g_audio.InitializeAudio (g_window.GetHandle ());
// Enter the master game loop
while (running)
{
// Process game events
}
// Exit the program
return EXIT_SUCCESS;
}
What we have here is a typical main function that initializes various
subsystems like the application window, input, audio, etc. However,
obviously if those classes such as the Window and Audio class did not
exist I could not initialize them with the main function. Therefore
the logical place to start would be to go ahead and write the Window
and Audio classes so I could actually initialize them with main(). It
really isn't difficult to figure out where to start if you think about
programming the same way you would build a house, car, or anything
else. You have to make the smaller parts, the little pieces, before
you can tie it all together and make something out of it. Does that
make sense?
HTH
On 12/18/10, Ben wrote:
> its not that. i mean i tried to start small but didn't know where to
> begin.,
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Re: [Audyssey] BGT with Surround Sound
Hi there, At the moment BGT does not offer surround sound/3d capabilities. Regards, Damien. - Original Message - From: "Kai" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 11:15 PM Subject: [Audyssey] BGT with Surround Sound Greetings Philip et al. Just wondering if BGT supports the surround sound capabilities afforded by DirectX? I was thinking of making a fighting game akin to Street Fighter or Mortal Kombat, but my concept of it requires surround sound, so that you can hear when an opponent is behind you, to the side, and in front and every other position in between. Very hard to represent that with stereo (or at least it's a lot less exciting when it's represented in stereo with audio queues). Kai --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Registration features of BGT
Hi Phillip, Those are very good points you outline in your article. There is no point, I agree, in making a hardware ID, because in the end it will be cracked anyway. I most definitely agree that the best registration system is name/key. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Oriol Gómez Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 3:17 AM To: Philip Bennefall; Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registration features of BGT Sounds good. I definitely agree with you about product ID deal. I have 3 computers and I just don't bother anymore to mail the devs for new keys. I end up going to the cracks I have for the games even though I bought the games myself, and the only reason I use the craccks is because of product IDs. On 12/19/10, Philip Bennefall wrote: > Hi all, > > The release of BGT 1.0 is drawing near, and I am currently working on the > registration functionality that will be available to game writers. I have > written an article on the subject which I was wondering if you could all > give me your opinions on, or at least those of you interested in game > creation. Smile. > > The article can be found at: > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5121962/Registration.txt > > Your thoughts and feedback would be very much appreciated! > > Kind regards, > > Philip Bennefall > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] FW: Empires & Dungeons 2 - News!
Hi anouk. yes, smugglers 4 and tv manager 2 are accessible (though you'll need to know how to drag and drop to play tv manager 2). Empires and dungeons 2 will be more like a mixtrue of single player dungeon crawling and adventures, and building up your castle to fight against the enemy lords, so actually not too much like anacrion (not being set in space for a start), If your interested in rpg or stratogy games though, i can very much recommend Entombed, which is fully self voicing and audio accessible, and a very large and complex dungeon exploration rpg game. For more info go to http://audiogames.net/db.php?id=entombed Beware the Grue!¬ Dark. - Original Message - From: "Anouk Radix" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 11:18 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] FW: Empires & Dungeons 2 - News! Heuy Dark, I myself am pretty interested in the new dungeons game and I will certainly write Niels about it. I have always wanted to play an rpg-like game. So tv manager 2 is accessible? Is smugglers 4 too? Greetings, Anouk, - Original Message - From: "dark" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 1:02 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] FW: Empires & Dungeons 2 - News! Hi Darren. the answer is hopefully, and yes, people are working with him, including myself. However, sinse the access features in tv manager two haven't made the game popular in the Vi community, I think Niels would appreciate some enthusiasm from vi gamers about the game. so, i urge anyone who would be interested in the game to go and post comments on the Niels bauer games blog and let him know that yes, were he to include access features we would be interested in this style of game. Beware the Grue! dark. - Original Message - From: "Darren Harris" To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" Sent: Friday, December 17, 2010 8:24 PM Subject: [Audyssey] FW: Empires & Dungeons 2 - News! Hi, Is this at all accessible and if not are people working with him to make this game accessible? -Original Message- From: supp...@nielsbauergames.com [mailto:supp...@nielsbauergames.com] Sent: 17 December 2010 20:01 To: darren_g_har...@btinternet.com Subject: Empires & Dungeons 2 - News! Empires & Dungeons 2 - News! Empires & Dungeons 2 is the upcoming addictive fantasy strategy and roleplaying game mix, where you have to build a castle, hire an army and crawl cursed dungeons. There is a discussion going on in my blog about item management and whether weapons should be "breakable" in combat or not. It would be interesting to get your opinion! You do not need to register to post a reply in the blog. You can find the blog here: http://nielsbauergames.wordpress.com Direct link: http://nielsbauergames.wordpress.com/2010/12/15/empires-dungeons-2-item-syst em/#comments It is Christmas! Support Niels! This is my first blatant attempt to empty your purse (one more to come before Christmas). Seriously I could use some help. Times for indies are tough and I am sure you do not yet have all my games - do you? (And if you have, you might want to buy a copy to give someone as a gift!) TV Manager 2 - NEW! In this addictive sequel to the original fun TV tycoon game, you lead a TV company and build your own TV Empire. http://www.nielsbauergames.com/TVManager.html Smugglers 4 Be a trader, a mercenary or a pirate in this highly addictive space trading game. In this open-ended game you can even board enemy ships and conquer star systems. http://www.nielsbauergames.com/smugglers4.html Smugglers 3 The original sci-fi space trading game. Like Smugglers 4 it is set during the Seccession War. (Still worth to play due to the unique combat system!) http://www.nielsbauergames.com/smugglers3.html Empires & Dungeons Fight for the crown in this addictive fantasy strategy and roleplaying game mix. Build a castle, hire an army and crawl cursed dungeons for legendary treasures. (Now includes FREE UPGRADE to Empires & Dungeons 2: The Sultanate) http://www.nielsbauergames.com/empiresanddungeons.html Change Subscription: http://sub.ezinedirector.net/?fa=m&s=73069887&c=964971936 Cancel Subscription: http://sub.ezinedirector.net/?fa=r&id=73069887&c=964971936 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/lis
Re: [Audyssey] BGT with Surround Sound
Hi Kai, This is not currently in the engine, but we are working on an upgrade from DirectSound to XAudio2 which will provide for a lot more advanced audio functionality including 3d sound and real-time dynamic effects. So keep your ears open for that! Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: "Kai" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 12:15 AM Subject: [Audyssey] BGT with Surround Sound Greetings Philip et al. Just wondering if BGT supports the surround sound capabilities afforded by DirectX? I was thinking of making a fighting game akin to Street Fighter or Mortal Kombat, but my concept of it requires surround sound, so that you can hear when an opponent is behind you, to the side, and in front and every other position in between. Very hard to represent that with stereo (or at least it's a lot less exciting when it's represented in stereo with audio queues). Kai --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] BGT with Surround Sound
Greetings Philip et al. Just wondering if BGT supports the surround sound capabilities afforded by DirectX? I was thinking of making a fighting game akin to Street Fighter or Mortal Kombat, but my concept of it requires surround sound, so that you can hear when an opponent is behind you, to the side, and in front and every other position in between. Very hard to represent that with stereo (or at least it's a lot less exciting when it's represented in stereo with audio queues). Kai --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] FW: Empires & Dungeons 2 - News!
Hi, Well I just looked on wikipedia and apparently tv manager 2 and dungeons 4 should be accessible. Interesting indeed, i wonder if dungeons 4 will be like anacreon? I also mailed to Niels Bauer indicating my interest in an accessible empires and dungeons. Greetings, Anouk, - Original Message - From: "dark" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 12:57 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] FW: Empires & Dungeons 2 - News! yes, but there is a very good demo mode, and the price will likely be extremely reasonable, if I remember rightly smugglers 4 is 15 dollars. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: "Clement Chou" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 12:33 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] FW: Empires & Dungeons 2 - News! Ah... now I get it. Sounds like an interesting venture... but are these games games you have to pay for? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] FW: Empires & Dungeons 2 - News!
Heuy Dark, I myself am pretty interested in the new dungeons game and I will certainly write Niels about it. I have always wanted to play an rpg-like game. So tv manager 2 is accessible? Is smugglers 4 too? Greetings, Anouk, - Original Message - From: "dark" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 1:02 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] FW: Empires & Dungeons 2 - News! Hi Darren. the answer is hopefully, and yes, people are working with him, including myself. However, sinse the access features in tv manager two haven't made the game popular in the Vi community, I think Niels would appreciate some enthusiasm from vi gamers about the game. so, i urge anyone who would be interested in the game to go and post comments on the Niels bauer games blog and let him know that yes, were he to include access features we would be interested in this style of game. Beware the Grue! dark. - Original Message - From: "Darren Harris" To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" Sent: Friday, December 17, 2010 8:24 PM Subject: [Audyssey] FW: Empires & Dungeons 2 - News! Hi, Is this at all accessible and if not are people working with him to make this game accessible? -Original Message- From: supp...@nielsbauergames.com [mailto:supp...@nielsbauergames.com] Sent: 17 December 2010 20:01 To: darren_g_har...@btinternet.com Subject: Empires & Dungeons 2 - News! Empires & Dungeons 2 - News! Empires & Dungeons 2 is the upcoming addictive fantasy strategy and roleplaying game mix, where you have to build a castle, hire an army and crawl cursed dungeons. There is a discussion going on in my blog about item management and whether weapons should be "breakable" in combat or not. It would be interesting to get your opinion! You do not need to register to post a reply in the blog. You can find the blog here: http://nielsbauergames.wordpress.com Direct link: http://nielsbauergames.wordpress.com/2010/12/15/empires-dungeons-2-item-syst em/#comments It is Christmas! Support Niels! This is my first blatant attempt to empty your purse (one more to come before Christmas). Seriously I could use some help. Times for indies are tough and I am sure you do not yet have all my games - do you? (And if you have, you might want to buy a copy to give someone as a gift!) TV Manager 2 - NEW! In this addictive sequel to the original fun TV tycoon game, you lead a TV company and build your own TV Empire. http://www.nielsbauergames.com/TVManager.html Smugglers 4 Be a trader, a mercenary or a pirate in this highly addictive space trading game. In this open-ended game you can even board enemy ships and conquer star systems. http://www.nielsbauergames.com/smugglers4.html Smugglers 3 The original sci-fi space trading game. Like Smugglers 4 it is set during the Seccession War. (Still worth to play due to the unique combat system!) http://www.nielsbauergames.com/smugglers3.html Empires & Dungeons Fight for the crown in this addictive fantasy strategy and roleplaying game mix. Build a castle, hire an army and crawl cursed dungeons for legendary treasures. (Now includes FREE UPGRADE to Empires & Dungeons 2: The Sultanate) http://www.nielsbauergames.com/empiresanddungeons.html Change Subscription: http://sub.ezinedirector.net/?fa=m&s=73069887&c=964971936 Cancel Subscription: http://sub.ezinedirector.net/?fa=r&id=73069887&c=964971936 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] some problems related to games in java
Hi Thomas, Aaa...thought they were written in java. But thatcertainly doesn't fix my problem... Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 8:59 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] some problems related to games in java Hi Hayden, Science Invasion, Showdown, and in fact all of the early PB Games were written in Javascript not Java. Java and Javascript, despite their names, are not the same programming language. So please don't confuse people by incorrectly identifying these games as Java based when they are not. The reason I'm pointing this out is the 7128 games are all written in Java and work very well on PC and Mac. There was even a time when I considered moving Genesis 3D to Java as well, but didn't do to lack of some features I personally wanted like Joystick support at the time. However, just wanted to say Java is a very viable language for games and I know this was a mistake we don't want to scare VI gamers off of Java based games just because of games written in Javascript. I feel it is important to set the record straight, and point out that comparing Java to Javascript is saying an apple is a type of orange. Smile. On 12/18/10, Hayden Presley wrote: > Hi Hi List, > > I'd like to report a problem I've been having; I'd like to see if any of you > have some tips as to how to resolve this. I first noticed this when I got > ScienceInvasion; the sound of the Cyclist just sounded weird; it wasn't > looping, there was a most definitely noticeable break from one loop to the > next. Then I heard Muhammed playing it, and it sounded right as rain. ThenI > tried Showdown. What do you know? Same problem. Just a few minutes ago I > tried Dark Destroyer; same problem. It would appear that only games written > in java are giving me this problem. Anyone have a possible solution to > this? > > > > Best Regards, > > Hayden > > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] some problems related to games in java
Hi Hayden, Science Invasion, Showdown, and in fact all of the early PB Games were written in Javascript not Java. Java and Javascript, despite their names, are not the same programming language. So please don't confuse people by incorrectly identifying these games as Java based when they are not. The reason I'm pointing this out is the 7128 games are all written in Java and work very well on PC and Mac. There was even a time when I considered moving Genesis 3D to Java as well, but didn't do to lack of some features I personally wanted like Joystick support at the time. However, just wanted to say Java is a very viable language for games and I know this was a mistake we don't want to scare VI gamers off of Java based games just because of games written in Javascript. I feel it is important to set the record straight, and point out that comparing Java to Javascript is saying an apple is a type of orange. Smile. On 12/18/10, Hayden Presley wrote: > Hi Hi List, > > I'd like to report a problem I've been having; I'd like to see if any of you > have some tips as to how to resolve this. I first noticed this when I got > ScienceInvasion; the sound of the Cyclist just sounded weird; it wasn't > looping, there was a most definitely noticeable break from one loop to the > next. Then I heard Muhammed playing it, and it sounded right as rain. ThenI > tried Showdown. What do you know? Same problem. Just a few minutes ago I > tried Dark Destroyer; same problem. It would appear that only games written > in java are giving me this problem. Anyone have a possible solution to > this? > > > > Best Regards, > > Hayden > > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Programming Games was Re: Response From Bavisoft
Hi Jim, Well, if we are talking Visual Basic 6 that's true, but you need to understand that Visual Basic 6 is not 100% a procedural language nor was object oriented programming fully implemented either. The public and private declarations for subs, functions, and variables in Visual Basic 6 are borrowed from object oriented programming. No, what I was actually refering to is the difference between standard C and object oriented C++. Where the origeons of object oriented programming and design started. Although, object oriented C++ is based on standard C there were a lot of new concepts introduced in to C++ that C simply didn't have such as classes, public and private data types, objects, inheritance, pollimorphism, etc. C, as in the original C language, was strictly a procedural programming language. The closest C ever got to anything like object oriented programming is structs and unions, and neither of them were able to do the things you could do in a C++ class. For example, everything in a struct is public, structs can not be inherited, and you can not declare two functions of the same name inside a struct like you can in classes. That's why in the late 90's when languages like Java were introduced to programmers it started out using a object oriented design platform rather than the older C-style procedural design. When Microsoft released their .NET Framework in 2002 allof their languaes such as C# .NET, Visual Basic .NET, J# .NET, etc all moved to a full object oriented design. The days for procedural programming is pretty much ancient history in the professional programming world. Even the new Cobol standards introduced in 2010 implements a new object oriented design. So procedural programming is definitely on its way out of the professional and private sector in a hurry. Smile. On 12/19/10, Jim Kitchen wrote: > Hi Thomas, > > Just one little correction I think. In procedural programming you can have > public and private variables. That is you can do things at the beginning > such as > > public SpeechRate > > or > > dim PlayersNames(10) > > And those variables are then global throughout your entire program. But you > can also do the same in a sub and those variables are then only accessible > in that sub. I E you can use the same variable in other subs and the values > etc are not carried over from one sub to another. > > And then there is a bad programming practice that I do all of the time and > that is that I do not even declare variables. Just use them on the fly as > it were. But that is only if you do not need to declare them such as > dimensioned arrays or if you need them to be global. > > BFN > > Jim --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] papasangre and itouch 3g
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[Audyssey] spam alert! Re: teamtalk server not able to happen
well, if I wouldn't call that spam... - Original Message - From: "Gary Whittington" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 2:23 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] teamtalk server not able to happen Hey, Josh, come on in the Crash Theater on FTP to just wish me Merry Christmas. Like to also invitge my old buddies. Infact I Support a Blind Gamer's Reunion. On FTP, What's was that Toy? Praincer Hosting your "Wish Toys and those without shame toys. Crash in his Rain Deer Bell and Beers. Shot from your Past in OTR will be at 4:15PM ET. I dare ya, Event brought to you by friends of Http://RUSC.comRUSC Doublely DASHER __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5266 (20100709) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] teamtalk server not able to happen
Nick, make sure you're entering the correct internal IP. on my router you enter the config panel with theIP ending at 01, so I thought it was the internal. as it turned out though it was not 01, it was 1. may seem like a small thing but it may make a hell of a difference. also check out portforward.com. - Original Message - From: "Nick Helms" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 5:40 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] teamtalk server not able to happen Thanks for the feadback. I'll see what I can do to resolve these issues. It will happen. Right now, there' just no telling how soon I can get it to happen. If not before the end of this year then certainlly before much of 2011 has elapsed. On 12/18/10, Gary Whittington wrote: Hey, Josh, come on in the Crash Theater on FTP to just wish me Merry Christmas. Like to also invitge my old buddies. Infact I Support a Blind Gamer's Reunion. On FTP, What's was that Toy? Praincer Hosting your "Wish Toys and those without shame toys. Crash in his Rain Deer Bell and Beers. Shot from your Past in OTR will be at 4:15PM ET. I dare ya, Event brought to you by friends of Http://RUSC.comRUSC Doublely DASHER - Original Message - From: "Orin" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 1:48 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] teamtalk server not able to happen Comcast does, in fact, let you forward and use ports. Certain general ones though are of course limited to certain services but I don't think that's a comcast issue. If all else fails, DMZ your router and try again, see if it works. If it does there's a port forwarding issue. Orin orin8...@gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/orinks Skype: orin1112 On Dec 17, 2010, at 9:11 PM, Nick Helms wrote: Unfortunetly, after many unhappy hours of trying, I am forced to conclude that I am either missing something, or that comcast doesn't let their customers forward and use ports. I followed the stepps, I'm almost 100% posative I've done everything right, and I just cannot get it to work. Although I am quite disappointed that this won't happen, I must conclude that it won't work. thanks, Nick -- Nick Helms "I will not lie, cheat, or steal, or tolerate those who do." --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. -- Nick Helms "I will not lie, cheat, or steal, or tolerate those who do." --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5266 (20100709) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5266 (20100709) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers
Re: [Audyssey] Programming Games was Re: Response From Bavisoft
Hi Hayden, I guess the reason that I do not assign a variable type to my variables is because I have never found a need to and am not sure which type would always be the best for what I am using the variable for. In some games though I do have a couple of them assigned such as Public stm as long And that is only because someone shared a bit of code with me and that was how it was. You have to remember that I have never taken any classes in programming. Just started out with some sample source code in 1980 on a Texas Instruments 99 4A home computer. And have just been experimenting every since. So allot of the way that I program is from way back in Basic like GW Basic, Quick Basic, and the extended basic cartridges for the TI 99 4A and Atari 800 XL. Lots of the code in my games today came from my old GW Basic versions. And heck it still works, so why not use it and continue to program like that. BFN Jim I like Visual Basic 6.0 because I can not C. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] papasangre and itouch 3g
the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. _ NOD32 EMON 5714 (20101218) information _ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system http://www.eset.com _ NOD32 EMON 5715 (20101219) information _ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system http://www.eset.com _ NOD32 EMON 5715 (20101219) information _ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] papasangre and itouch 3g
he basically means the game can simulate 3d very nicely and does outstanding reverb in different areas. - Original Message - From: "Darren Duff" To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 2:20 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] papasangre and itouch 3g Do you know what binaural sound is? The game is using a binaural 3d engine. It's one of the best audio games I've ever played! Especially for the I devices. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Hayden Presley Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 5:55 PM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] papasangre and itouch 3g Hi, Hmmm...sounds good, but it beytter be awesome; I'm certainly not purchasing a game for $7 unless it's the best thing out there. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Darren Duff Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 4:04 PM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] papasangre and itouch 3g Yes, I can confirm this. They really need to update there web site with this information. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of peter Mahach Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 4:54 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] papasangre and itouch 3g for those wondewring, despite the developer's warning sand despite the game giving you an initial warning at startup it has no issues with the iPod touch 3g. it's just they don't have a way to tell if it's the 8 gig model which does indeed have less memory, hence all the warnings. but for us voiceover users with touches it'll work just fine, and imho it's a worthwile purchase. - Peter Mahach |piterm...@gmail.com msn: pitermac...@hotmail.com skype (not very often): pitermach twitter: http://www.twitter.com/pitermach webpage: http://pmsworld.weisi4u.de/ __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5266 (20100709) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. _ NOD32 EMON 5714 (20101218) information _ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system http://www.eset.com _ NOD32 EMON 5714 (20101218) information _ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. _ NOD32 EMON 5714 (20101218) information _ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system http://www.eset.com _ NOD32 EMON 5714 (20101218) information _ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5266 (20100709) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5266 (20100709) ___
Re: [Audyssey] Programming Games was Re: Response From Bavisoft
Hi Jim, Something elseIdon't understand is why you don't assign your variables a type either; I looked at your number guess code, and all of your global variables were like that. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Jim Kitchen Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 4:56 AM To: Thomas Ward Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Programming Games was Re: Response From Bavisoft Hi Thomas, Just one little correction I think. In procedural programming you can have public and private variables. That is you can do things at the beginning such as public SpeechRate or dim PlayersNames(10) And those variables are then global throughout your entire program. But you can also do the same in a sub and those variables are then only accessible in that sub. I E you can use the same variable in other subs and the values etc are not carried over from one sub to another. And then there is a bad programming practice that I do all of the time and that is that I do not even declare variables. Just use them on the fly as it were. But that is only if you do not need to declare them such as dimensioned arrays or if you need them to be global. BFN Jim Constants aren't; variables don't. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] papasangre and itouch 3g
He wasn't arguing. - Original Message - From: "Oriol Gómez" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 6:53 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] papasangre and itouch 3g Hayden, I hope you know that your arguments are invalid. Papa sangre rules. Period. On 12/19/10, Hayden Presley wrote: Hi, I hope you know that I've never heard of that engine, so that means nothing to me...grin Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Darren Duff Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 7:21 PM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] papasangre and itouch 3g Do you know what binaural sound is? The game is using a binaural 3d engine. It's one of the best audio games I've ever played! Especially for the I devices. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Hayden Presley Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 5:55 PM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] papasangre and itouch 3g Hi, Hmmm...sounds good, but it beytter be awesome; I'm certainly not purchasing a game for $7 unless it's the best thing out there. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Darren Duff Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 4:04 PM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] papasangre and itouch 3g Yes, I can confirm this. They really need to update there web site with this information. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of peter Mahach Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 4:54 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] papasangre and itouch 3g for those wondewring, despite the developer's warning sand despite the game giving you an initial warning at startup it has no issues with the iPod touch 3g. it's just they don't have a way to tell if it's the 8 gig model which does indeed have less memory, hence all the warnings. but for us voiceover users with touches it'll work just fine, and imho it's a worthwile purchase. - Peter Mahach |piterm...@gmail.com msn: pitermac...@hotmail.com skype (not very often): pitermach twitter: http://www.twitter.com/pitermach webpage: http://pmsworld.weisi4u.de/ __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5266 (20100709) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. _ NOD32 EMON 5714 (20101218) information _ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system http://www.eset.com _ NOD32 EMON 5714 (20101218) information _ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. _ NOD32 EMON 5714 (20101218) information _ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system http://www.eset.com _ NOD32 EMON 5714 (20101218) information _ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or c
Re: [Audyssey] some problems related to games in java
No, He hasn't done any disappearing...trust me. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Shiny protector Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 5:05 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] some problems related to games in java Ahh, Hayden, you need more agent brains lol. Its supposed to mean that the bad guy has disappeared to the other side, giving you time to bang bang bang bang bang! - Original Message - From: "Hayden Presley" To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 1:49 AM Subject: [Audyssey] some problems related to games in java > Hi Hi List, > > I'd like to report a problem I've been having; I'd like to see if any of > you > have some tips as to how to resolve this. I first noticed this when I got > ScienceInvasion; the sound of the Cyclist just sounded weird; it wasn't > looping, there was a most definitely noticeable break from one loop to the > next. Then I heard Muhammed playing it, and it sounded right as rain. > ThenI > tried Showdown. What do you know? Same problem. Just a few minutes ago I > tried Dark Destroyer; same problem. It would appear that only games > written > in java are giving me this problem. Anyone have a possible solution to > this? > > > > Best Regards, > > Hayden > > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Papa Sangre Has Arrived! $6.99
So, $1 or $2 is just the average? - Original Message - From: "Hayden Presley" To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 11:20 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Papa Sangre Has Arrived! $6.99 Hi Muhammed, Yes, that's a lot. Let me explain. You can buy a game like Aurifi for $1.99. Something of that equivalent on the computer would cost at least 10 times that. Now I've heard from someone that there isa program that llows access to a kind of MicrosoftWord andExcel; that program is just under $5. So this is a bit more than usual; aps for the I-products are remarkably cheep. Still, I haven't completely thrownaway the idea of buying it. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Shiny protector Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 7:56 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Papa Sangre Has Arrived! $6.99 Its not so much. - Original Message - From: "Hayden Presley" To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 1:32 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Papa Sangre Has Arrived! $6.99 Hi, $6.99! Are you kidding? Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Karl Belanger Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 7:31 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] Papa Sangre Has Arrived! $6.99 Hi all, I just checked the app store and Papa Sangre is live and available for purchase. The cost is $6.99. William, in your opinion is it worth $6.99 considering the price of other iPhone games? Karl --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] teamtalk server not able to happen
And what's that supposed to mean? - Original Message - From: "Gary Whittington" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 1:05 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] teamtalk server not able to happen You little Dash, right before Christmas. YOu Uncle Crash Spelling +++ Like to Wish my Little Buddy a Merry Christmas. From your Captain. Phasers on 4! Prince - Original Message - From: "Orin" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 1:48 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] teamtalk server not able to happen Comcast does, in fact, let you forward and use ports. Certain general ones though are of course limited to certain services but I don't think that's a comcast issue. If all else fails, DMZ your router and try again, see if it works. If it does there's a port forwarding issue. Orin orin8...@gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/orinks Skype: orin1112 On Dec 17, 2010, at 9:11 PM, Nick Helms wrote: Unfortunetly, after many unhappy hours of trying, I am forced to conclude that I am either missing something, or that comcast doesn't let their customers forward and use ports. I followed the stepps, I'm almost 100% posative I've done everything right, and I just cannot get it to work. Although I am quite disappointed that this won't happen, I must conclude that it won't work. thanks, Nick -- Nick Helms "I will not lie, cheat, or steal, or tolerate those who do." --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] some problems related to games in java
Ahh, Hayden, you need more agent brains lol. Its supposed to mean that the bad guy has disappeared to the other side, giving you time to bang bang bang bang bang! - Original Message - From: "Hayden Presley" To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 1:49 AM Subject: [Audyssey] some problems related to games in java Hi Hi List, I'd like to report a problem I've been having; I'd like to see if any of you have some tips as to how to resolve this. I first noticed this when I got ScienceInvasion; the sound of the Cyclist just sounded weird; it wasn't looping, there was a most definitely noticeable break from one loop to the next. Then I heard Muhammed playing it, and it sounded right as rain. ThenI tried Showdown. What do you know? Same problem. Just a few minutes ago I tried Dark Destroyer; same problem. It would appear that only games written in java are giving me this problem. Anyone have a possible solution to this? Best Regards, Hayden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Bananagrams anagram tile game
Hi Charles, Yeah, I also put dymo tape on my Up Words tiles. I think that Up Words is easier than Scrabble. And for me that is because there are words on the board that you can look at and see if you can change them with the letters that you have. And I do like it better when playing with a person who likes to build up words rather than putting words all over the board as if we were playing Scrabble. Just love to change 2 or 3 words at a time and get major points. BFN Jim I wouldn't even write Email without a spell checker. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Programming Games was Re: Response From Bavisoft
Hi Thomas, Just one little correction I think. In procedural programming you can have public and private variables. That is you can do things at the beginning such as public SpeechRate or dim PlayersNames(10) And those variables are then global throughout your entire program. But you can also do the same in a sub and those variables are then only accessible in that sub. I E you can use the same variable in other subs and the values etc are not carried over from one sub to another. And then there is a bad programming practice that I do all of the time and that is that I do not even declare variables. Just use them on the fly as it were. But that is only if you do not need to declare them such as dimensioned arrays or if you need them to be global. BFN Jim Constants aren't; variables don't. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Registration features of BGT
Sounds good. I definitely agree with you about product ID deal. I have 3 computers and I just don't bother anymore to mail the devs for new keys. I end up going to the cracks I have for the games even though I bought the games myself, and the only reason I use the craccks is because of product IDs. On 12/19/10, Philip Bennefall wrote: > Hi all, > > The release of BGT 1.0 is drawing near, and I am currently working on the > registration functionality that will be available to game writers. I have > written an article on the subject which I was wondering if you could all > give me your opinions on, or at least those of you interested in game > creation. Smile. > > The article can be found at: > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5121962/Registration.txt > > Your thoughts and feedback would be very much appreciated! > > Kind regards, > > Philip Bennefall > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Programming Games was Re: Response From Bavisoft To MyInquiry
Ok That's fine -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Hayden Presley Sent: 18 December 2010 22:57 To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Programming Games was Re: Response From Bavisoft To MyInquiry Hi Ben, Get in touch with me; I may not be the local BGtexpert (wink at Phillip) but I may be able to halp you with small er projects. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Ben Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 3:23 PM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Programming Games was Re: Response From Bavisoft To MyInquiry its not that. i mean i tried to start small but didn't know where to begin., -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: 18 December 2010 14:35 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Programming Games was Re: Response From Bavisoft To MyInquiry Hi Ben, Any time you learn something new like a programming language always start out small before moving on to bigger projects. For example, when I was taking C++ in college we didn't start out with something like a calculator or similar app we started with a simple "Hello World" program and went from there. We wrote hundreds of small practice programs that demonstrated some aspect of the language before pulling all that together to write something like a simple ATM machine, calculator, sample Cash Register program, whatever. So instead of thinking of some big complex game like a real time Star Wars game or another Shades of Doom think about writing small practice programs like Guess the Number or an Eight Ball program that demonstrates some aspect of the language before working your way upt to that end project. That's the only way you will ever learn to know when or where to start. I'll say this. I've been oon the internet for several years and have shared my insightes with a lot of people. The most common problem I find with people interested in programming is a distinct lack of patients. They want to pick up a book like Teach Yourself C++ in 21 Days, and expectt to start writing something as complex as Shades of Doom the next day. That's just unrealistic. There are so many aspects of the language they need to master before they get from point A to point B that it may mean months of practical general purpose programming, and writing simple programs before they have enough skill to even attempt at writing anything remotely like Shades of Doom. Even though BGT shaves lots of time off programming games etc you still have to spend some time writing simple programs before moving on to bbigger more complex ones. Cheers! On 12/18/10, Ben wrote: > all of you lot, > lol. i'm thinking of creating a project that has gone for 3 years without a > hint of activity programming wise. trouble is, i don't know where to begin. > i've read bgt's manual around 30 times and i still don't know where to > start. i've been writing the game's story though, so thats someting... --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions
