Re: [gentoo-user] portage ignores -drafts flag set in /etc/portage/package.use

2023-04-06 Thread gevisz
чт, 6 апр. 2023 г. в 13:24, Arve Barsnes :

> On Thu, 6 Apr 2023 at 12:12, gevisz  wrote:
> > portage reported the following:
> >
> > The following USE changes are necessary to proceed:
> >  (see "package.use" in the portage(5) man page for more details)
> > # required by dev-python/pyzmq-25.0.2::gentoo[-test]
> > # required by dev-python/qtconsole-5.4.0::gentoo
> > # required by dev-python/ipython-8.12.0::gentoo[qt5]
> > # required by dev-python/ipyparallel-8.4.1::gentoo
> > >=net-libs/zeromq-4.3.4-r1 -drafts
> >
> > I have set this in /etc/portage/package.use/ipython file.
>
> Show us what you have in /etc/portage/package.use/ipython (and the
> file that portage created for you).
>
> Also, check if you have set the drafts flag on zeromq in a different
> file in /etc/portage/package.use/
> # grep drafts /etc/portage/package.use/*
>

Yes, you are right. The same flag was set as +drafts for the same zeromq
package in another config file as it was earlier demanded by jupyterlab
package.
So, the issue is currently fixed. Thank you.


[gentoo-user] portage ignores -drafts flag set in /etc/portage/package.use

2023-04-06 Thread gevisz
After running the following command to update my Gentoo:
# emerge --update --deep --with-bdeps=y --backtrack=120
 --verbose-conflicts --ask world

portage reported the following:

The following USE changes are necessary to proceed:
 (see "package.use" in the portage(5) man page for more details)
# required by dev-python/pyzmq-25.0.2::gentoo[-test]
# required by dev-python/qtconsole-5.4.0::gentoo
# required by dev-python/ipython-8.12.0::gentoo[qt5]
# required by dev-python/ipyparallel-8.4.1::gentoo
>=net-libs/zeromq-4.3.4-r1 -drafts

I have set this in /etc/portage/package.use/ipython file.
However, after running the command
# emerge --update --deep --with-bdeps=y --backtrack=120
 --verbose-conflicts --ask world
once again, portage reports the same message again and refuses to proceed.

I even allowed it to write to a file in the package.use directory itself,
which it did creating a new file there.
However, after running the command
# emerge --update --deep --with-bdeps=y --backtrack=120
 --verbose-conflicts --ask world
it again reports the same message:

The following USE changes are necessary to proceed:
 (see "package.use" in the portage(5) man page for more details)
# required by dev-python/pyzmq-25.0.2::gentoo[-test]
# required by dev-python/qtconsole-5.4.0::gentoo
# required by dev-python/ipython-8.12.0::gentoo[qt5]
# required by dev-python/ipyparallel-8.4.1::gentoo
>=net-libs/zeromq-4.3.4-r1 -drafts

Trying to run the command
# emerge --update --deep --with-bdeps=y --backtrack=120  --newuse
--verbose-conflicts --ask world
does not change much as well.

I have also tried to recompile the package zeromq with the command
# emerge -1 zeromq
As the result the package has been recompiled but with the same +drafts use
flag.


Re: [gentoo-user] No sound. Please, help!

2022-07-17 Thread gevisz
чт, 14 июл. 2022 г. в 10:53, Michael :
>
> On Thursday, 14 July 2022 07:19:14 BST gevisz wrote:
> > пт, 11 мар. 2022 г. в 20:15, gevisz :
> > > пн, 19 окт. 2020 г. в 00:15, gevisz :
> > > > вс, 18 окт. 2020 г. в 21:15, Dale :
> > > > > gevisz wrote:
> > > > > > вс, 18 окт. 2020 г. в 17:20, Dale :
> > > > > >> gevisz wrote:
> > > > > >>> No sound at least in Firefox. Tried it on youtube. Skype is
> > > > > >>> currently
> > > > > >>> uninstalled. So, I cannot check using it.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Just a thought.  Are you sure that everything is unmuted?  Years
> > > > > >> ago,
> > > > > >> all the sound control software, Kmix, alsa and others, default to
> > > > > >> mute.
> > > > > >> If just one of them is muted, no sound.  I seem to recall when I
> > > > > >> did my
> > > > > >> install on this rig that I had to unmute the sound in three places,
> > > > > >> Kmix, alsa and one other that I can't recall the name of.  I think
> > > > > >> I had
> > > > > >> to turn up the volume on alsa as it was set to a really low level
> > > > > >> once
> > > > > >> it was unmuted.  Usually, I turn all of them to the max except the
> > > > > >> one I
> > > > > >> mainly use.  In my case, Kmix is the one I use to really control
> > > > > >> things
> > > > > >> since it sits on the panel thingy.  The others are set at the max.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> It's a silly thing but thought it worth a mention just in case
> > > > > >> there is
> > > > > >> a muted setting somewhere.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thank you for your input. Yes, it seems that something is muted but
> > > > > > what?
> > > > > > I have no KDE and no kmix installed. No pulseaudio.
> > > > >
> > > > > Type in alsamixer in a console or whatever you use and hit tab twice.
> > > > > I
> > > > > suspect you have that installed.  You should have a text version, like
> > > > > a
> > > > > console uses, and a gui version, that should work in any DM.  Pick
> > > > > your
> > > > > poison and see if anything there is muted or the volume is set really
> > > > > low, like 1 out of 100 or something.  I think hitting the "m" key
> > > > > toggles the mute.
> > > >
> > > > I am sorry to confess that I forgot that I should use M to unmute
> > > > a channel in alsamixer (as I did about 14 years ago) and thought
> > > > that arrows up and down do all the work. :(
> > > >
> > > > So, now the problem has been solved.
> > >
> > > Last time I have ended the discussion on my
> > > "no sound" problem acknowledging that I was
> > > so stupid that "forgot that I should use M to
> > > unmute a channel in alsamixer."
> > >
> > > However, it turned out that it was not the case:
> > > currently I have all channels in alsamixer unmuted
> > > and have sound only in about 1 from 10 bootings of
> > > my Gentoo system, while I do always have sound
> > > on the same computer while I boot it with Ubuntu 20.04.
> > >
> > > I have also compared the output of lsmod command
> > > on both systems and found out that my Gentoo system
> > > had all sound kernel modules that my Ubuntu system has
> > > and even more. (In Gentoo, I still have quite an old 5.4.97
> > > kernel, but I do not think that it is the cause of my
> > > "no sound" problem.)
> > >
> > > Of course, it is completely my responsibility that
> > > I have built my Gentoo system in such a way that
> > > I never know if I will have sound after its next boot.
> > > However I am lost guessing what I did wrong.
> > > (Comparing with Ubuntu 20.04, my Gentoo system
> > > has no systemd and no pulseaudio, no consolekit,
> > > and no policykit.)
> > >
> > > I leave this just for history, as I am currently
> > > in a war zone and so investigating this problem
> > > further is not in my priority list. :(
> >
> > I have accidentally found that the problem with
> > absence of sound on my Gentoo box appears
> > only when my USB Logitech webcam is connected
> > to the computer during the boot time.
> >
> > Moreover, if it happens and the sound is absent,
> > the alsamixer shows that my USB Logitech webcam
> > is considered by the system as a default sound device.
> >
> > So, it tries to send sound there even though it does
> > not have any speaker.
>
> I'll blame some relatively recent change in the kernel
> or some interaction with udev.

Yes, it is quite probable that udev, evdev or the like
is responsible for the problem.



Re: [gentoo-user] No sound. Please, help!

2022-07-17 Thread gevisz
вс, 17 июл. 2022 г. в 19:18, gevisz :
>
> чт, 14 июл. 2022 г. в 14:57, Jude DaShiell :
> >
> > I'll go on a guess alsa got installed on the system.

Yes, it is.

> > If that is correct, please try a command as root in terminal
> > if necessary or on console:
> >
> > amixer set Master 100% unmute && alsactl store && aplay
> > /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav

I was sure that it wouldn't work but tried:
# amixer set Master 100% unmute && alsactl store && aplay
/usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav
amixer: Unable to find simple control 'Master',0

> > It's possible that doesn't work because /var/lib/alsa/asound.state exists
> > or /var/lock/alsa.lock exists.

The first file exists and the second one is not.

> > If those two files do not exist and pulseaudio and/or pipewire hasn't
> > gummed up the works that should work.



Re: [gentoo-user] No sound. Please, help!

2022-07-17 Thread gevisz
чт, 14 июл. 2022 г. в 14:57, Jude DaShiell :
>
> I'll go on a guess alsa got installed on the system.  If that is correct,
> please try a command as root in terminal if necessary or on console:
>
>
> amixer set Master 100% unmute && alsactl store && aplay
> /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav
> It's possible that doesn't work because /var/lib/alsa/asound.state exists
> or /var/lock/alsa.lock exists.
> If those two files do not exist and pulseaudio and/or pipewire hasn't
> gummed up the works that should work.

I was sure that it wouldn't work but tried:
# amixer set Master 100% unmute && alsactl store && aplay
/usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav
amixer: Unable to find simple control 'Master',0



Re: [gentoo-user] No sound. Please, help!

2022-07-14 Thread gevisz
пт, 11 мар. 2022 г. в 20:15, gevisz :
>
> пн, 19 окт. 2020 г. в 00:15, gevisz :
> >
> > вс, 18 окт. 2020 г. в 21:15, Dale :
> > >
> > > gevisz wrote:
> > > > вс, 18 окт. 2020 г. в 17:20, Dale :
> > > >> gevisz wrote:
> > > >>> No sound at least in Firefox. Tried it on youtube. Skype is currently
> > > >>> uninstalled. So, I cannot check using it.
> > > >> Just a thought.  Are you sure that everything is unmuted?  Years ago,
> > > >> all the sound control software, Kmix, alsa and others, default to mute.
> > > >> If just one of them is muted, no sound.  I seem to recall when I did my
> > > >> install on this rig that I had to unmute the sound in three places,
> > > >> Kmix, alsa and one other that I can't recall the name of.  I think I 
> > > >> had
> > > >> to turn up the volume on alsa as it was set to a really low level once
> > > >> it was unmuted.  Usually, I turn all of them to the max except the one 
> > > >> I
> > > >> mainly use.  In my case, Kmix is the one I use to really control things
> > > >> since it sits on the panel thingy.  The others are set at the max.
> > > >>
> > > >> It's a silly thing but thought it worth a mention just in case there is
> > > >> a muted setting somewhere.
> > > > Thank you for your input. Yes, it seems that something is muted but 
> > > > what?
> > > > I have no KDE and no kmix installed. No pulseaudio.
> > >
> > > Type in alsamixer in a console or whatever you use and hit tab twice.  I
> > > suspect you have that installed.  You should have a text version, like a
> > > console uses, and a gui version, that should work in any DM.  Pick your
> > > poison and see if anything there is muted or the volume is set really
> > > low, like 1 out of 100 or something.  I think hitting the "m" key
> > > toggles the mute.
> >
> > I am sorry to confess that I forgot that I should use M to unmute
> > a channel in alsamixer (as I did about 14 years ago) and thought
> > that arrows up and down do all the work. :(
> >
> > So, now the problem has been solved.
>
> Last time I have ended the discussion on my
> "no sound" problem acknowledging that I was
> so stupid that "forgot that I should use M to
> unmute a channel in alsamixer."
>
> However, it turned out that it was not the case:
> currently I have all channels in alsamixer unmuted
> and have sound only in about 1 from 10 bootings of
> my Gentoo system, while I do always have sound
> on the same computer while I boot it with Ubuntu 20.04.
>
> I have also compared the output of lsmod command
> on both systems and found out that my Gentoo system
> had all sound kernel modules that my Ubuntu system has
> and even more. (In Gentoo, I still have quite an old 5.4.97
> kernel, but I do not think that it is the cause of my
> "no sound" problem.)
>
> Of course, it is completely my responsibility that
> I have built my Gentoo system in such a way that
> I never know if I will have sound after its next boot.
> However I am lost guessing what I did wrong.
> (Comparing with Ubuntu 20.04, my Gentoo system
> has no systemd and no pulseaudio, no consolekit,
> and no policykit.)
>
> I leave this just for history, as I am currently
> in a war zone and so investigating this problem
> further is not in my priority list. :(

I have accidentally found that the problem with
absence of sound on my Gentoo box appears
only when my USB Logitech webcam is connected
to the computer during the boot time.

Moreover, if it happens and the sound is absent,
the alsamixer shows that my USB Logitech webcam
is considered by the system as a default sound device.

So, it tries to send sound there even though it does
not have any speaker.



Re: [gentoo-user] Some symbols render incomplete in text mode

2022-05-20 Thread gevisz
вт, 10 мая 2022 г. в 18:42, gevisz :
>
> сб, 7 мая 2022 г. в 12:47, Frank Steinmetzger :
> >
> > Am Thu, May 05, 2022 at 08:46:39PM +0300 schrieb gevisz:
> >
> > > It seems to me that the problem is somehow related
> > > to redrawing a frame. However, I am still not sure if
> > > it is a problem of software or hardware.
> > >
> > > I have not tried another google-chrome profile so far.
> >
> > I would create a new (temporary test) user and log on with that. If the
> > problem still persists, it’s either a system config, a library (cairo,
> > freetype et al, graphics driver) or maybe even a hardware issue.
>
> Yes. It is exactly how I intended to do this, and sorry for not having
> done it yet.
>
> However, I have found that the problem of the incomplete rendering
> symbols in text mode appears only after I play youtube videos in
> google-chrome and persist after exiting it.
>
> Playing youtube videos in firefox-bin does not cause this problem to
> appear, nor does running google-chrome without playing youtube videos
> in it.

Here I was wrong: running google-chrome even without playing youtube
videos may cause the same problems with incomplete rendering of
symbols/letters in text mode.

> Moreover, in Firefox-bin, I even do not have the problem with
> incomplete rendering symbols in the youtube video player toolbar.
>
> So, I already can blame this problem completely on google-chrome.
> Moreover, I already know how to avoid it. :)
>
> P.S. My current version of google-chrome is 101.0.4951.54. However,
> the problem already appeared in its earlier versions and has survived
> several updates of the google-chrome.



Re: [gentoo-user] Some symbols render incomplete in text mode

2022-05-10 Thread gevisz
сб, 7 мая 2022 г. в 12:47, Frank Steinmetzger :
>
> Am Thu, May 05, 2022 at 08:46:39PM +0300 schrieb gevisz:
>
> > It seems to me that the problem is somehow related
> > to redrawing a frame. However, I am still not sure if
> > it is a problem of software or hardware.
> >
> > I have not tried another google-chrome profile so far.
>
> I would create a new (temporary test) user and log on with that. If the
> problem still persists, it’s either a system config, a library (cairo,
> freetype et al, graphics driver) or maybe even a hardware issue.

Yes. It is exactly how I intended to do this, and sorry for not having
done it yet.

However, I have found that the problem of the incomplete rendering
symbols in text mode appears only after I play youtube videos in
google-chrome and persist after exiting it.

Playing youtube videos in firefox-bin does not cause this problem to
appear, nor does running google-chrome without playing youtube videos
in it.

Moreover, in Firefox-bin, I even do not have the problem with
incomplete rendering symbols in the youtube video player toolbar.

So, I already can blame this problem completely on google-chrome.
Moreover, I already know how to avoid it. :)

P.S. My current version of google-chrome is 101.0.4951.54. However,
the problem already appeared in its earlier versions and has survived
several updates of the google-chrome.



Re: [gentoo-user] Some symbols render incomplete in text mode

2022-05-05 Thread gevisz
пн, 2 мая 2022 г. в 22:54, gevisz :
>
> пн, 2 мая 2022 г. в 15:04, Michael :
> >
> > On Sunday, 1 May 2022 19:46:45 BST gevisz wrote:
> > > вс, 1 мая 2022 г. в 13:58, Michael :
> > > > On Saturday, 30 April 2022 12:49:59 BST gevisz wrote:
> >
> > > > > Moreover, I am starting to suspect that
> > > > > the problem with incomplete rendering letters
> > > > > "in text mode" and the problem with symbols
> > > > > in the youtube video player toolbar may be
> > > > > separate ones as the latter is much more
> > > > > reproducible and appears only in google-chrome
> > > > > (have not noticed it in Firefox, for example,
> > > > > though I quite rarely use Firefox to view youtube videos).
> > > >
> > > > I can't offer much help on this, but I'll share a similar experience.  I
> > > > have seen something like this happening on Chromium, running on
> > > > Enlightenment desktop a few years ago.  I recall it was affected by the
> > > > scale set on the desktop 1.2:1 or something like that.  I can't recall 
> > > > if
> > > > this was also occurring on Plasma.  I think I saw the same missing
> > > > character problem on the title bar of the browser window.  This was on
> > > > English text (UTF8 encoding). Firefox and other applications didn't have
> > > > a problem.  At that time I recall Chromium's rendering of the
> > > > menu/toolbar and window border was fighting against the desktop.  Some
> > > > update on Chromium eventually fixed things.  So I blamed it on the
> > > > interplay between the desktop, browser and graphics card/driver 
> > > > (radeon).
> > >
> > > Thank you for your input. My graphic card is also Radeon,
> > > namely, built-in ATI Radeon X1250, and I use Awesome WM.
> > > The problem appears mostly in google-chrome, but I saw it
> > > also in Gvim, and currently it appeared also in the taskbar.
> > > A properly cropped screenshot is attached to this message.
> >
> > I suspect some interaction between your window manager and graphics driver
> > causes your character and symbol rendering problem.  You may want to 
> > install a
> > different window manager and see if the problem remains,
>
> Thank you. I will try another WM, probably XFCE4, which
> I have used before Awesome (among other options)
> and report my finding in this thread.
>
> > then approach the Awesome devs to help you with troubleshooting.
> >  It's not unusual for less mainstream WM devs to focus their code
> > on NVidia/Intel, or whatever hardware and drivers they have at their
> > disposal and miss out on such problems like yours until they are drawn
> > to their attention.

Today, I emerged xfce4-meta, started XFCE4
and spent a short period of time within it.

For this short period of time, the "problem"
with rendering symbols in youtube video player
toolbar in google-chrome appeared in exactly
the same way as it appeared within Awesome WM.

I have also noticed the problem with rendering
letters in google-chrome. However, it appeared
a bit different: parts of letters in an html page
were closed by small black boxes, however not
everywhere but only on a side panel.

At the same time letters of a word written on a button
had exactly the same rendering problem as within
Awesome WM.

So, it seems that the problem is not specific to Awesome WM.

It seems to me that the problem is somehow related
to redrawing a frame. However, I am still not sure if
it is a problem of software or hardware.

I have not tried another google-chrome profile so far.



Re: [gentoo-user] Some symbols render incomplete in text mode

2022-05-02 Thread gevisz
пн, 2 мая 2022 г. в 15:04, Michael :
>
> On Sunday, 1 May 2022 19:46:45 BST gevisz wrote:
> > вс, 1 мая 2022 г. в 13:58, Michael :
> > > On Saturday, 30 April 2022 12:49:59 BST gevisz wrote:
>
> > > > Moreover, I am starting to suspect that
> > > > the problem with incomplete rendering letters
> > > > "in text mode" and the problem with symbols
> > > > in the youtube video player toolbar may be
> > > > separate ones as the latter is much more
> > > > reproducible and appears only in google-chrome
> > > > (have not noticed it in Firefox, for example,
> > > > though I quite rarely use Firefox to view youtube videos).
> > >
> > > I can't offer much help on this, but I'll share a similar experience.  I
> > > have seen something like this happening on Chromium, running on
> > > Enlightenment desktop a few years ago.  I recall it was affected by the
> > > scale set on the desktop 1.2:1 or something like that.  I can't recall if
> > > this was also occurring on Plasma.  I think I saw the same missing
> > > character problem on the title bar of the browser window.  This was on
> > > English text (UTF8 encoding). Firefox and other applications didn't have
> > > a problem.  At that time I recall Chromium's rendering of the
> > > menu/toolbar and window border was fighting against the desktop.  Some
> > > update on Chromium eventually fixed things.  So I blamed it on the
> > > interplay between the desktop, browser and graphics card/driver (radeon).
> >
> > Thank you for your input. My graphic card is also Radeon,
> > namely, built-in ATI Radeon X1250, and I use Awesome WM.
> > The problem appears mostly in google-chrome, but I saw it
> > also in Gvim, and currently it appeared also in the taskbar.
> > A properly cropped screenshot is attached to this message.
>
> I suspect some interaction between your window manager and graphics driver
> causes your character and symbol rendering problem.  You may want to install a
> different window manager and see if the problem remains,

Thank you. I will try another WM, probably XFCE4, which
I have used before Awesome (among other options)
and report my finding in this thread.

> then approach the Awesome devs to help you with troubleshooting.
>  It's not unusual for less mainstream WM devs to focus their code
> on NVidia/Intel, or whatever hardware and drivers they have at their
> disposal and miss out on such problems like yours until they are drawn
> to their attention.



Re: [gentoo-user] Some symbols render incomplete in text mode

2022-05-01 Thread gevisz
вс, 1 мая 2022 г. в 13:58, Michael :
>
> On Saturday, 30 April 2022 12:49:59 BST gevisz wrote:
> > пт, 29 апр. 2022 г. в 00:42, Frank Steinmetzger :
> > > Am Thu, Apr 28, 2022 at 09:20:08PM +0300 schrieb gevisz:
> > > > ср, 27 апр. 2022 г. в 13:55, Frank Steinmetzger :
> > > > > Am Sun, Apr 24, 2022 at 11:57:49PM +0300 schrieb gevisz:
> > > > > > After a recent update of my Gentoo system, I have noticed that some
> > > > > > symbols may be rendered incomplete in a text mode.
> > > > >
> > > > > What exactly do you mean with “text mode”?
> > > >
> > > > By "text mode" I mean that "it happened in Gvim, in a web-browser
> > > > and in a dialog-window for saving files" but not in videos or pictures.
> > >
> > > I see, you mean text that was actually rendered and not part of an image.
> >
> > Yes. Thank you for replying to this thread once more.
> >
> > Yesterday evening I finally managed to catch the problem
> > with incomplete rendering of cyrillic letters "in text mode"
> > and make a screenshot of it. This time, it happened in
> > html page that was open in google-chrome.
> >
> > A properly cropped screenshot of it is attached to this email.
> >
> > As it may happen that you and other readers of this thread
> > are not familiar with cyrillic letters to the extent needed to see
> > that they are rendered incomplete, I also add a screenshot
> > of the same text rendered complete. I made it this morning
> > with the same google-chrome.
> >
> > By the way, this means that the problem appears from time
> > to time and does not look to be easily reproducible.
> >
> > I even assume that it may be a hardware problem
> > as my computer is quite old, but unfortunately
> > can not check this assumption so far.
> >
> > > I noticed that those applications you mention are all GTK-based.
> >
> > Yes, I try not to mix GTK and Qt on this old computer
> > as much as possible to reduce the time needed
> > to update the system. So, most of the applications on
> > it use GTK. The only one that I know uses Qt is VLC
> > as it does not work properly with GTK. However, I use
> > it quite rarely.
> >
> > > Do you have any available that are built on Qt (or any other toolkit)?
> >
> > I am afraid that VLC is the only one.
> > Once tried Qutebrowser was removed a long time ago.
> >
> > > I can’t say that I have seen that youtube issue before. But I also have no
> > > idea what it could be or how to solve it. Could you create a new browser
> > > profile and check whether the issue is still present there? This could
> > > tell
> > > us whether it’s an issue with your existing profile.
> >
> > I will try to create a new user and run google-chrome from his profile
> > and report the result here.
> >
> > However, when the disk with my /home directory
> > was for a few months installed on another computer
> > also runned by Gentoo with similar configuration
> > I have not noticed such problems.
> >
> > Moreover, I am starting to suspect that
> > the problem with incomplete rendering letters
> > "in text mode" and the problem with symbols
> > in the youtube video player toolbar may be
> > separate ones as the latter is much more
> > reproducible and appears only in google-chrome
> > (have not noticed it in Firefox, for example,
> > though I quite rarely use Firefox to view youtube videos).
>
> I can't offer much help on this, but I'll share a similar experience.  I have
> seen something like this happening on Chromium, running on Enlightenment
> desktop a few years ago.  I recall it was affected by the scale set on the
> desktop 1.2:1 or something like that.  I can't recall if this was also
> occurring on Plasma.  I think I saw the same missing character problem on the
> title bar of the browser window.  This was on English text (UTF8 encoding).
> Firefox and other applications didn't have a problem.  At that time I recall
> Chromium's rendering of the menu/toolbar and window border was fighting 
> against
> the desktop.  Some update on Chromium eventually fixed things.  So I blamed it
> on the interplay between the desktop, browser and graphics card/driver
> (radeon).

Thank you for your input. My graphic card is also Radeon,
namely, built-in ATI Radeon X1250, and I use Awesome WM.
The problem appears mostly in google-chrome, but I saw it
also in Gvim, and currently it appeared also in the taskbar.
A properly cropped screenshot is attached to this message.


Re: [gentoo-user] Some symbols render incomplete in text mode

2022-04-30 Thread gevisz
пт, 29 апр. 2022 г. в 00:42, Frank Steinmetzger :
>
> Am Thu, Apr 28, 2022 at 09:20:08PM +0300 schrieb gevisz:
> > ср, 27 апр. 2022 г. в 13:55, Frank Steinmetzger :
> > >
> > > Am Sun, Apr 24, 2022 at 11:57:49PM +0300 schrieb gevisz:
> > >
> > > > After a recent update of my Gentoo system, I have noticed that some
> > > > symbols may be rendered incomplete in a text mode.
> > >
> > > What exactly do you mean with “text mode”?
> >
> > By "text mode" I mean that "it happened in Gvim, in a web-browser
> > and in a dialog-window for saving files" but not in videos or pictures.
>
> I see, you mean text that was actually rendered and not part of an image.

Yes. Thank you for replying to this thread once more.

Yesterday evening I finally managed to catch the problem
with incomplete rendering of cyrillic letters "in text mode"
and make a screenshot of it. This time, it happened in
html page that was open in google-chrome.

A properly cropped screenshot of it is attached to this email.

As it may happen that you and other readers of this thread
are not familiar with cyrillic letters to the extent needed to see
that they are rendered incomplete, I also add a screenshot
of the same text rendered complete. I made it this morning
with the same google-chrome.

By the way, this means that the problem appears from time
to time and does not look to be easily reproducible.

I even assume that it may be a hardware problem
as my computer is quite old, but unfortunately
can not check this assumption so far.

> I noticed that those applications you mention are all GTK-based.

Yes, I try not to mix GTK and Qt on this old computer
as much as possible to reduce the time needed
to update the system. So, most of the applications on
it use GTK. The only one that I know uses Qt is VLC
as it does not work properly with GTK. However, I use
it quite rarely.

> Do you have any available that are built on Qt (or any other toolkit)?

I am afraid that VLC is the only one.
Once tried Qutebrowser was removed a long time ago.

> I can’t say that I have seen that youtube issue before. But I also have no
> idea what it could be or how to solve it. Could you create a new browser
> profile and check whether the issue is still present there? This could tell
> us whether it’s an issue with your existing profile.

I will try to create a new user and run google-chrome from his profile
and report the result here.

However, when the disk with my /home directory
was for a few months installed on another computer
also runned by Gentoo with similar configuration
I have not noticed such problems.

Moreover, I am starting to suspect that
the problem with incomplete rendering letters
"in text mode" and the problem with symbols
in the youtube video player toolbar may be
separate ones as the latter is much more
reproducible and appears only in google-chrome
(have not noticed it in Firefox, for example,
though I quite rarely use Firefox to view youtube videos).


Re: [gentoo-user] Some symbols render incomplete in text mode

2022-04-28 Thread gevisz
чт, 28 апр. 2022 г. в 21:20, gevisz :

> ср, 27 апр. 2022 г. в 13:55, Frank Steinmetzger :
> >
> > Am Sun, Apr 24, 2022 at 11:57:49PM +0300 schrieb gevisz:
> >
> > > After a recent update of my Gentoo system, I have noticed that some
> > > symbols may be rendered incomplete in a text mode.
> >
> > What exactly do you mean with “text mode”?
>
> First of all, thank you for replying to my question.
>
> By "text mode" I mean that "it happened in Gvim, in a web-browser
> and in a dialog-window for saving files" but not in videos or pictures.
>
> > Which terminal are you using, and—most importantly—which font?
>
> I am using xfce-terminal, and it is using Monospace Regular font on 11 pt.
>
> In Gvim, I use the same Monospace Regular font on 10 pt.
>
> I do not know which font is in use by the window that helps me
> to save html files from the web-browser.
>
> I have noticed this problem with cyrillic symbols and dots.
>
> > > It happens in Gvim, in a web-browser and in a dialog-window for saving
> > > files. Maybe, also in xterm but I am not quite sure about it. So, it is
> > > not specific to any application.
> >
> > So not only in text mode (i.e. TTY or terminal)?
>
> No, as I already explained above, by "text mode" I mean that
> "it happened in Gvim, in a web-browser and in a dialog-window
> for saving files" but not in videos or pictures.
>
> > > For example, while saving a web-page from a google-chrome, I sometimes
> > > cannot see a dot before html. However, it is present there.
> >
> > See it where? A (small) screenshot may help.
>
> Unfortunately, I have not made a screenshot of this. So, I will try to
> explain:
> When I press Ctrl+s to save an html page from the google-chrome
> a dialog window is opened with the suggested name of the file that
> ends in "html." There is a dot before that "html" but sometimes it was
> not shown to me.
>

It probably should be added that instead of that dot I saw a white space.


> The same was with the top parts of some cyrillic letters
> (to the point that it was hard to read).
>
> > Perhaps it is an overwide character, but the program that displays the
> text
> > wants to adhere to a regular character width. I’ve had this issue in the
> > past with Konsole.
>
> I do not think that it was connected with overwide characters because
> the effect appeared not with them or beside them.
>
> This problem with dots and top parts of letters *faded*
> after I updated the freetype package this Sunday.
> However, I cannot say that it stopped immediately after this update.
> It indeed *faded* during a few rebooting after that.
>
> > > Some letters can be shown without their top parts. In youtube videos, I
> > > may see only the lower part of a gear that denotes some customization
> > > features and so on.
> >
> > Only the gear? Or also all the other symbols in the video player toolbar?
>
> No, not only the gear symbol but some other ones as well, but not all of
> them.
>
> > Again, a nicely cropped screenshot may shed some light so we can better
> > understand it.
>
> I was able to reproduce it just now and made a few screenshots.
> I will add "a nicely cropped" ones as attachments to this email.
>
> It as also interesting that the symbol in the youtube player toolbar
> that was shown only partially changes to the full one when I move
> a mouse pointer over it.
>
> > > However, I do not see any distortion in playing videos.
> >
> > Did you set up a strange or very unusual DPI value for your font
> rendering?
>
> No, I have not played with this. And moreover, with the same settings,
> it was completely ok for years.
>
>


Re: [gentoo-user] Some symbols render incomplete in text mode

2022-04-28 Thread gevisz
ср, 27 апр. 2022 г. в 13:55, Frank Steinmetzger :
>
> Am Sun, Apr 24, 2022 at 11:57:49PM +0300 schrieb gevisz:
>
> > After a recent update of my Gentoo system, I have noticed that some
> > symbols may be rendered incomplete in a text mode.
>
> What exactly do you mean with “text mode”?

First of all, thank you for replying to my question.

By "text mode" I mean that "it happened in Gvim, in a web-browser
and in a dialog-window for saving files" but not in videos or pictures.

> Which terminal are you using, and—most importantly—which font?

I am using xfce-terminal, and it is using Monospace Regular font on 11 pt.

In Gvim, I use the same Monospace Regular font on 10 pt.

I do not know which font is in use by the window that helps me
to save html files from the web-browser.

I have noticed this problem with cyrillic symbols and dots.

> > It happens in Gvim, in a web-browser and in a dialog-window for saving
> > files. Maybe, also in xterm but I am not quite sure about it. So, it is
> > not specific to any application.
>
> So not only in text mode (i.e. TTY or terminal)?

No, as I already explained above, by "text mode" I mean that
"it happened in Gvim, in a web-browser and in a dialog-window
for saving files" but not in videos or pictures.

> > For example, while saving a web-page from a google-chrome, I sometimes
> > cannot see a dot before html. However, it is present there.
>
> See it where? A (small) screenshot may help.

Unfortunately, I have not made a screenshot of this. So, I will try to
explain:
When I press Ctrl+s to save an html page from the google-chrome
a dialog window is opened with the suggested name of the file that
ends in "html." There is a dot before that "html" but sometimes it was
not shown to me. The same was with the top parts of some cyrillic letters
(to the point that it was hard to read).

> Perhaps it is an overwide character, but the program that displays the
text
> wants to adhere to a regular character width. I’ve had this issue in the
> past with Konsole.

I do not think that it was connected with overwide characters because
the effect appeared not with them or beside them.

This problem with dots and top parts of letters *faded*
after I updated the freetype package this Sunday.
However, I cannot say that it stopped immediately after this update.
It indeed *faded* during a few rebooting after that.

> > Some letters can be shown without their top parts. In youtube videos, I
> > may see only the lower part of a gear that denotes some customization
> > features and so on.
>
> Only the gear? Or also all the other symbols in the video player toolbar?

No, not only the gear symbol but some other ones as well, but not all of
them.

> Again, a nicely cropped screenshot may shed some light so we can better
> understand it.

I was able to reproduce it just now and made a few screenshots.
I will add "a nicely cropped" ones as attachments to this email.

It as also interesting that the symbol in the youtube player toolbar
that was shown only partially changes to the full one when I move
a mouse pointer over it.

> > However, I do not see any distortion in playing videos.
>
> Did you set up a strange or very unusual DPI value for your font
rendering?

No, I have not played with this. And moreover, with the same settings,
it was completely ok for years.


[gentoo-user] Some symbols render incomplete in text mode

2022-04-24 Thread gevisz
After a recent update of my Gentoo system,
I have noticed that some symbols may be
rendered incomplete in a text mode.

It happens in Gvim, in a web-browser and
in a dialog-window for saving files.
Maybe, also in xterm but I am not quite sure about it.
So, it is not specific to any application.

For example, while saving a web-page from
a google-chrome, I sometimes cannot see a dot
before html. However, it is present there.
Some letters can be shown without their
top parts. In youtube videos, I may see only
the lower part of a gear that denotes some
customization features and so on.

However, I do not see any distortion
in playing videos.

Does anybody have any idea on what may
cause such effects?



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: tensorflow-2.5.0-r1 compilation failed

2022-03-11 Thread gevisz
пт, 11 мар. 2022 г. в 20:49, Mark Knecht :
>
> On Fri, Mar 11, 2022 at 10:48 AM gevisz  wrote:
> 
> >
> > In addition to the old CPU, I have quite an old video card,
> > namely, ATI R4770. However, I still believe that it is possible
> > to compile tensorflow so that it could run on my hardware.
> > At least, I did it for tensorflow-2.7.0 on 21-11-2021.
> >
>
> Stay safe and return to us when you can.

Thank you.

> As for me I moved on and bought a new computer so my
> hardware issues with tensorflow are behind me for now.

Yes, probably, it would be the solution.



Re: [gentoo-user] No sound. Please, help!

2022-03-11 Thread gevisz
пн, 19 окт. 2020 г. в 00:15, gevisz :
>
> вс, 18 окт. 2020 г. в 21:15, Dale :
> >
> > gevisz wrote:
> > > вс, 18 окт. 2020 г. в 17:20, Dale :
> > >> gevisz wrote:
> > >>> No sound at least in Firefox. Tried it on youtube. Skype is currently
> > >>> uninstalled. So, I cannot check using it.
> > >> Just a thought.  Are you sure that everything is unmuted?  Years ago,
> > >> all the sound control software, Kmix, alsa and others, default to mute.
> > >> If just one of them is muted, no sound.  I seem to recall when I did my
> > >> install on this rig that I had to unmute the sound in three places,
> > >> Kmix, alsa and one other that I can't recall the name of.  I think I had
> > >> to turn up the volume on alsa as it was set to a really low level once
> > >> it was unmuted.  Usually, I turn all of them to the max except the one I
> > >> mainly use.  In my case, Kmix is the one I use to really control things
> > >> since it sits on the panel thingy.  The others are set at the max.
> > >>
> > >> It's a silly thing but thought it worth a mention just in case there is
> > >> a muted setting somewhere.
> > > Thank you for your input. Yes, it seems that something is muted but what?
> > > I have no KDE and no kmix installed. No pulseaudio.
> >
> > Type in alsamixer in a console or whatever you use and hit tab twice.  I
> > suspect you have that installed.  You should have a text version, like a
> > console uses, and a gui version, that should work in any DM.  Pick your
> > poison and see if anything there is muted or the volume is set really
> > low, like 1 out of 100 or something.  I think hitting the "m" key
> > toggles the mute.
>
> I am sorry to confess that I forgot that I should use M to unmute
> a channel in alsamixer (as I did about 14 years ago) and thought
> that arrows up and down do all the work. :(
>
> So, now the problem has been solved.

Last time I have ended the discussion on my
"no sound" problem acknowledging that I was
so stupid that "forgot that I should use M to
unmute a channel in alsamixer."

However, it turned out that it was not the case:
currently I have all channels in alsamixer unmuted
and have sound only in about 1 from 10 bootings of
my Gentoo system, while I do always have sound
on the same computer while I boot it with Ubuntu 20.04.

I have also compared the output of lsmod command
on both systems and found out that my Gentoo system
had all sound kernel modules that my Ubuntu system has
and even more. (In Gentoo, I still have quite an old 5.4.97
kernel, but I do not think that it is the cause of my
"no sound" problem.)

Of course, it is completely my responsibility that
I have built my Gentoo system in such a way that
I never know if I will have sound after its next boot.
However I am lost guessing what I did wrong.
(Comparing with Ubuntu 20.04, my Gentoo system
has no systemd and no pulseaudio, no consolekit,
and no policykit.)

I leave this just for history, as I am currently
in a war zone and so investigating this problem
further is not in my priority list. :(



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: tensorflow-2.5.0-r1 compilation failed

2022-03-11 Thread gevisz
пн, 10 янв. 2022 г. в 18:16, Mark Knecht :
>
> 
> >
> > Thank you for your reply, Mark.
> >
> > Unfortunately, you missed my previous message in this thread
> > where I wrote that I do have Ubuntu 20.04 on the same computer.
> > However, tensorflow fails to run on it because it is not compiled
> > to be inconsistent with my videocard. So, Gentoo is my only option
> > for this hardware.
> >
> 
>
> My apologies. This thread has gone on for a while and I had to review
> to get caught up.
>
> OK, so assuming I understand correctly (please correct me if I do
> not) then you are talking about ONE computer that uses an AMD
> Phenom II  X4 processor. This computer dual boots, or is a Gentoo
> machine with an Ubuntu VM.

It is a dual boot. (Sorry for the late reply.)

> In an earlier response to this thread you showed the flags
> supported by this processor which did not include
> the AVX, AVX2 or the FMA3/FMA4 flags. It is my
> understanding that this processor cannot run the
> current versions of tensorflow whether you compile
> it yourself or not, at least in the non-GPU version.

My hardware cannot run tensorflow precompiled by Ubuntu.
However, some versions of tensorflow successfully compile
and run in Gentoo:
- all versions of tensorflow-2.5 fail to compile in Gentoo;
- tensorflow-2.7.0 successfully compiled on 21-11-2021;
- on 30-12-2021 recompilation of the same tensorflow-2.7.0
  failed because of some changed dependencies;
- I have not yet tried to compile tensorflow-2.8.0.

Actually, I gave up trying to compile it and deleted it from my system.
Moreover, I am not going to compile it in the near future as I am now
in the war zone.

> WRT to your video card, tensorflow does not require the use
> of a GPU. There are two versions, tensorflow-cpu and
> tensorflow-gpu. If you were to build the -cpu version then it
> is my understanding it would run an a headless machine,
> presuming the processor has AVX/AVX2/FMA hardware
> support.
>
> If the processor DOES have AVX/FMA support but you were having
> problems emerging TF in Gentoo then a virtual machine running
> Ubuntu might have helped you as you could use a precompiled
> apt or snap package. However I don't think anything gets you
> past not having AVX/FMA hardware support.
>
> I am in the same situation. My big machine is an Intel i7 980
> Extreme. I used to be able to run TF but have not been able
> to since Google raised the CPU requirements.
>
> If I am not understanding your hardware setup, or you think
> there is a path around the AVX/FMA hardware problem
> please let me know and I'll explore it more deeply with you.

In addition to the old CPU, I have quite an old video card,
namely, ATI R4770. However, I still believe that it is possible
to compile tensorflow so that it could run on my hardware.
At least, I did it for tensorflow-2.7.0 on 21-11-2021.



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: tensorflow-2.5.0-r1 compilation failed

2022-01-09 Thread gevisz
пн, 10 янв. 2022 г. в 01:29, gevisz :
>
> вс, 9 янв. 2022 г. в 16:52, Mark Knecht :
> >
> > On Sun, Jan 9, 2022 at 3:59 AM gevisz  wrote:
> > >
> > > вс, 21 нояб. 2021 г. в 17:12, Mark Knecht :
> > > >
> > > > Congrats!
> > >
> > > Thank you. However, it was not for long. On 30-12-2021 recompilation
> > > of the same tensorflow-2.7.0 because of some changed dependencies
> > > failed with the same f**ng "Bazel failed" error as before.
> > >
> > > So, I am currently going to degrade my Gentoo system to the state it
> > > was in on 12-12-2021, when its last update was successful and froze it
> > > forever.
> > >
> > > The problem is that I do not know how to do it but I am going to post
> > > this question as a separate thread. (I am using webrsync method.)
> > >
> >
> > Sorry for the problems. I saw your other thread about downgrading
> > Gentoo. I agree with the other responses you got there that Gentoo, in
> > general, does not support standing still much less going backward.
> >
> > I will offer what will probably not be a popular comment but my
> > opinion is Gentoo is exactly the wrong sort of distribution for doing
> > work in tensorflow. With all of it's updates, limited testing of
> > packages, extreme amounts of code building, and not being a distro
> > that the official tensorflow folks even verify on, it's just too hard.
> > (And a contributing factor to how I moved away in the beginning.)
> >
> > My thought is that you might create a 20.04 LTS Ubuntu VM (or possibly
> > an LXC container) running whatever your desktop flavor of Gentoo is -
> > I run Kubuntu - and just run tensorflow in the VM. You won't easily
> > get GPU support unless you deal with passthrough, but the software
> > will just work and you won't spend time dealing with building code
> > which can be spent coding tensorflow.
> >
> > If you insist on running in Gentoo consider the LXD container running
> > an older rev of Gentoo. (If you can find one) Get it working, if you
> > can, and then never update it.
> >
> > lxc image list images: gentoo
> >
> > There are openrc and systemd versions available, but a Kubuntu stable
> > container would more likely to 'just work' IMO.
>
> Thank you for your reply, Mark.
>
> Unfortunately, you missed my previous message in this thread
> where I wrote that I do have Ubuntu 20.04 on the same computer.

Correction:

> However, tensorflow fails to run on it because it is compiled
> to be inconsistent with my videocard. So, Gentoo is my only option
> for this hardware.



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: tensorflow-2.5.0-r1 compilation failed

2022-01-09 Thread gevisz
вс, 9 янв. 2022 г. в 16:52, Mark Knecht :
>
> On Sun, Jan 9, 2022 at 3:59 AM gevisz  wrote:
> >
> > вс, 21 нояб. 2021 г. в 17:12, Mark Knecht :
> > >
> > > Congrats!
> >
> > Thank you. However, it was not for long. On 30-12-2021 recompilation
> > of the same tensorflow-2.7.0 because of some changed dependencies
> > failed with the same f**ng "Bazel failed" error as before.
> >
> > So, I am currently going to degrade my Gentoo system to the state it
> > was in on 12-12-2021, when its last update was successful and froze it
> > forever.
> >
> > The problem is that I do not know how to do it but I am going to post
> > this question as a separate thread. (I am using webrsync method.)
> >
>
> Sorry for the problems. I saw your other thread about downgrading
> Gentoo. I agree with the other responses you got there that Gentoo, in
> general, does not support standing still much less going backward.
>
> I will offer what will probably not be a popular comment but my
> opinion is Gentoo is exactly the wrong sort of distribution for doing
> work in tensorflow. With all of it's updates, limited testing of
> packages, extreme amounts of code building, and not being a distro
> that the official tensorflow folks even verify on, it's just too hard.
> (And a contributing factor to how I moved away in the beginning.)
>
> My thought is that you might create a 20.04 LTS Ubuntu VM (or possibly
> an LXC container) running whatever your desktop flavor of Gentoo is -
> I run Kubuntu - and just run tensorflow in the VM. You won't easily
> get GPU support unless you deal with passthrough, but the software
> will just work and you won't spend time dealing with building code
> which can be spent coding tensorflow.
>
> If you insist on running in Gentoo consider the LXD container running
> an older rev of Gentoo. (If you can find one) Get it working, if you
> can, and then never update it.
>
> lxc image list images: gentoo
>
> There are openrc and systemd versions available, but a Kubuntu stable
> container would more likely to 'just work' IMO.

Thank you for your reply, Mark.

Unfortunately, you missed my previous message in this thread
where I wrote that I do have Ubuntu 20.04 on the same computer.
However, tensorflow fails to run on it because it is not compiled
to be inconsistent with my videocard. So, Gentoo is my only option
for this hardware.



Re: [gentoo-user] How to degrade Gentoo system with webrsync method?

2022-01-09 Thread gevisz
вс, 9 янв. 2022 г. в 15:40, Dale :
>
> gevisz wrote:
> > вс, 9 янв. 2022 г. в 14:43, Dale :
> >> gevisz wrote:
> >>> вс, 9 янв. 2022 г. в 14:08, Arve Barsnes :
> >>>> On Sun, 9 Jan 2022 at 12:48, gevisz  wrote:
> >>>>> The problem is that I do not know how to sync my Gentoo repository
> >>>>> to the state it was on 12-12-2021.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I use webrsync sync method via "emaint -A sync" and would prefer
> >>>>> to use the same sync method for degrading my Gentoo system.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Can anybody, please, tell me how to do it using this sync method?
> >>>> This is probably not possible at all using any of the tools available.
> >>>> These tools only support downloading the latest snapshot to get you up
> >>>> to date. Additionally, most mirrors only keep snapshots of the last 7
> >>>> days or so, so it would take some (possibly futile) effort to find a
> >>>> snapshot of the date you need.
> >>>>
> >>>> The only option, as far as I can see, is to migrate your portage tree
> >>>> to git, where you can specify a commit that you want to sync to from
> >>>> the wanted day.
> >>> It is a pity, but thank you for the answer.
> >> I'm not sure if I'm understanding completely the problem here but
> >> thought I'd suggest something.  Can you not just mask newer versions of
> >> the package so emerge won't update it until you are ready?  I do that
> >> sometimes here.  I've did it with smplayer at one point because some
> >> changes broke things for me.  I kept it from upgrading for months until
> >> things got fixed.  I then removed the mask, while keeping the old ebuild
> >> and even a binary of the package, and allowed emerge to upgrade
> >> smplayer.  At that point, things worked for me that didn't before.
> >>
> >> The only downside to this, things your package depends on may go past
> >> what your package supports and you run into issues.  As the other person
> >> said, it's best to figure out why your package fails and fix that, then
> >> you can worry about new problems.  ;-)  Masking the newer version may
> >> work at least in the meantime though.  Give you time to sort out the 
> >> failure.
> > Thank you for your reply, Dale.
> >
> > Yes, masking some new package can work in this case.
> >
> > However, it is not so easy as it may seem because it is not the new
> > version of tensorflow that I should mask in my case as on the day
> > when the tensorflow recompilation failed its version remained the same
> > and only some of its dependencies were supposed to be upgraded.
> >
> > Of course, I may try this approach. However, tensorflow is not
> > considered stable in gentoo tree and it has a lot of dependencies
> > that are also not considered stable and should be unmasked.
> >
> > All this leads to a large number of possible choices on
> > which packages to mask/unmask.
> >
> > So, playing with this is like playing in a casino with about
> > 4 hours of compilation for each bet.
>
> As a starting point, check the ebuild and see what all packages are
> listed there that it depends on.  Put the needed entries in package.mask
> and then use your world upgrade command plus -p to see what emerge wants
> to upgrade.  Keep adding until it is reporting nothing to upgrade.  The
> packages in the ebuild should help save some time.  I can't think of an
> easier way to do it.  Someone else may have ideas thogh.  Oh, don't forget
> the ">=" signs and to specify versions.  Can't recall if it matters
> which symbol comes first.

Thank you. I probably should also look into the emerge logs to see
which of the tensorflow dependencies was updated the last time,
when its recompilation failed.



Re: [gentoo-user] How to degrade Gentoo system with webrsync method?

2022-01-09 Thread gevisz
вс, 9 янв. 2022 г. в 14:43, Dale :
>
> gevisz wrote:
> > вс, 9 янв. 2022 г. в 14:08, Arve Barsnes :
> >> On Sun, 9 Jan 2022 at 12:48, gevisz  wrote:
> >>> The problem is that I do not know how to sync my Gentoo repository
> >>> to the state it was on 12-12-2021.
> >>>
> >>> I use webrsync sync method via "emaint -A sync" and would prefer
> >>> to use the same sync method for degrading my Gentoo system.
> >>>
> >>> Can anybody, please, tell me how to do it using this sync method?
> >> This is probably not possible at all using any of the tools available.
> >> These tools only support downloading the latest snapshot to get you up
> >> to date. Additionally, most mirrors only keep snapshots of the last 7
> >> days or so, so it would take some (possibly futile) effort to find a
> >> snapshot of the date you need.
> >>
> >> The only option, as far as I can see, is to migrate your portage tree
> >> to git, where you can specify a commit that you want to sync to from
> >> the wanted day.
> > It is a pity, but thank you for the answer.
>
> I'm not sure if I'm understanding completely the problem here but
> thought I'd suggest something.  Can you not just mask newer versions of
> the package so emerge won't update it until you are ready?  I do that
> sometimes here.  I've did it with smplayer at one point because some
> changes broke things for me.  I kept it from upgrading for months until
> things got fixed.  I then removed the mask, while keeping the old ebuild
> and even a binary of the package, and allowed emerge to upgrade
> smplayer.  At that point, things worked for me that didn't before.
>
> The only downside to this, things your package depends on may go past
> what your package supports and you run into issues.  As the other person
> said, it's best to figure out why your package fails and fix that, then
> you can worry about new problems.  ;-)  Masking the newer version may
> work at least in the meantime though.  Give you time to sort out the failure.

Thank you for your reply, Dale.

Yes, masking some new package can work in this case.

However, it is not so easy as it may seem because it is not the new
version of tensorflow that I should mask in my case as on the day
when the tensorflow recompilation failed its version remained the same
and only some of its dependencies were supposed to be upgraded.

Of course, I may try this approach. However, tensorflow is not
considered stable in gentoo tree and it has a lot of dependencies
that are also not considered stable and should be unmasked.

All this leads to a large number of possible choices on
which packages to mask/unmask.

So, playing with this is like playing in a casino with about
4 hours of compilation for each bet.



Re: [gentoo-user] How to degrade Gentoo system with webrsync method?

2022-01-09 Thread gevisz
вс, 9 янв. 2022 г. в 14:08, Arve Barsnes :
>
> On Sun, 9 Jan 2022 at 12:48, gevisz  wrote:
> > The problem is that I do not know how to sync my Gentoo repository
> > to the state it was on 12-12-2021.
> >
> > I use webrsync sync method via "emaint -A sync" and would prefer
> > to use the same sync method for degrading my Gentoo system.
> >
> > Can anybody, please, tell me how to do it using this sync method?
>
> This is probably not possible at all using any of the tools available.
> These tools only support downloading the latest snapshot to get you up
> to date. Additionally, most mirrors only keep snapshots of the last 7
> days or so, so it would take some (possibly futile) effort to find a
> snapshot of the date you need.
>
> The only option, as far as I can see, is to migrate your portage tree
> to git, where you can specify a commit that you want to sync to from
> the wanted day.

It is a pity, but thank you for the answer.



[gentoo-user] How to degrade Gentoo system with webrsync method?

2022-01-09 Thread gevisz
I constantly have problems with updating/recompiling tensorflow.
Sometimes, it compiles ok but most of the time it is not.
The last time when it failed to recompile was on 30-12-2021.
I reported this in the thread "tensorflow-2.5.0-r1 compilation failed"

So, I decided to degrade my Gentoo system to the state in which
it was on 12-12-2021, when my tensorflow was still ok, and froze it forever.

The problem is that I do not know how to sync my Gentoo repository
to the state it was on 12-12-2021.

I use webrsync sync method via "maint -A sync" and would prefer
to use the same sync method for degrading my Gentoo system.

Can anybody, please, tell me how to do it using this sync method?



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: tensorflow-2.5.0-r1 compilation failed

2022-01-09 Thread gevisz
вс, 21 нояб. 2021 г. в 17:12, Mark Knecht :
>
> Congrats!

Thank you. However, it was not for long. On 30-12-2021 recompilation
of the same tensorflow-2.7.0 because of some changed dependencies
failed with the same f**ng "Bazel failed" error as before.

So, I am currently going to degrade my Gentoo system to the state it
was in on 12-12-2021, when its last update was successful and froze it
forever.

The problem is that I do not know how to do it but I am going to post
this question as a separate thread. (I am using webrsync method.)



Re: [gentoo-user] tor-browser does not start any more

2021-11-29 Thread gevisz
вс, 28 нояб. 2021 г. в 13:20, Poncho :
>
> On 28.11.21 12:09, gevisz wrote:
> > I have just noticed that the tor-browser I downloaded from its
> > official site does not start any more. :(
> > However, it started just a few weeks ago, before a few previous updates.
> > Downloading its latest version has not changed anything in this respect.
> >
>
> do you get any error message if you launch torbrowser from your terminal?

After "launching" the tor-browser in the terminal, I get only the
return value 255 instead of 0.

> just a guess... but you probably need to enable wayland for x11-libs/gtk+:3

Yes, Wayland is completely disabled in my system as I use Awesome.

> https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/applications/tor-browser/-/issues/40693

Thank you.



[gentoo-user] tor-browser does not start any more

2021-11-28 Thread gevisz
I have just noticed that the tor-browser I downloaded from its
official site does not start any more. :(
However, it started just a few weeks ago, before a few previous updates.
Downloading its latest version has not changed anything in this respect.



[gentoo-user] Re: tensorflow-2.5.0-r1 compilation failed

2021-11-21 Thread gevisz
Just for the history: all my attempts to compile any version of
tensorflow-2.5 failed.
However, yesterday I successfully compiled tensorflow-2.7.0.

So, now I am afraid to update it any more in the future. :(



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: tensorflow-2.5.0-r1 compilation failed

2021-10-20 Thread gevisz
ср, 20 окт. 2021 г. в 16:45, Mark Knecht :
>
> On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 11:34 PM gevisz  wrote:
> >
> > сб, 16 окт. 2021 г. в 21:27, Mark Knecht :
> >
> > > I wish you the best of luck.
> >
> > Thank you. But so far no luck in my fourth attempt to compile tensorflow.
> > I still get the same error. :(
> >
>
> On a possibly related/similar note my last Windows machine popped up with
> some desire to update to Windows 11. After a check of the hardware It then
> told me the processor isn't supported
>

Interesting.



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: tensorflow-2.5.0-r1 compilation failed

2021-10-17 Thread gevisz
сб, 16 окт. 2021 г. в 21:27, Mark Knecht :

> I wish you the best of luck.

Thank you. But so far no luck in my fourth attempt to compile tensorflow.
I still get the same error. :(



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: tensorflow-2.5.0-r1 compilation failed

2021-10-16 Thread gevisz
сб, 16 окт. 2021 г. в 20:40, Mark Knecht :
>
> On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 9:50 AM gevisz  wrote:
> >
> > To make things worse, I've got an "Illegal instruction (core dumped)"
> > error after installing and trying to run tensorflow from Ubuntu 20.04
> > which is installed on the same computer.
> >
>
> What processor by chance are you using. Probably a year back
> Google started requiring processors with AVX2 and FMA instructions.
>
> I can no longer run it on my Intel i7 980 Extreme unless I build from
> source which is just too painful. It's the main reason I'm starting
> to finally plan a new machine purchase.
>
> cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep flags

I have googled and also think that the above error on Ubuntu 20.04 is
due to the old processor.
I have an AMD Phenom II  X4 processor on that computer. The main
problem, however, is that
I get an error when compiling tensorflow in Gentoo.

The CPU flags are the following: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8
apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht
syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt pdpe1gb rdtscp lm 3dnowext 3dnow
constant_tsc rep_good nopl nonstop_tsc cpuid extd_apicid pni monitor
cx16 popcnt lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8_legacy abm sse4a
misalignsse 3dnowprefetch osvw ibs skinit wdt hw_pstate vmmcall npt
lbrv svm_lock nrip_save



[gentoo-user] Re: tensorflow-2.5.0-r1 compilation failed

2021-10-16 Thread gevisz
To make things worse, I've got an "Illegal instruction (core dumped)"
error after installing and trying to run tensorflow from Ubuntu 20.04
which is installed on the same computer.



[gentoo-user] tensorflow-2.5.0-r1 compilation failed

2021-10-16 Thread gevisz
ERROR: 
/var/tmp/portage/sci-libs/tensorflow-2.5.0-r1/work/tensorflow-2.5.0-python3_9/tensorflow/BUILD:974:20:
Linking of rule '//tensorflow:libtensorflow.so.2.5.0' failed (Exit 1):
gcc failed: error executing command
  (cd 
/var/tmp/portage/sci-libs/tensorflow-2.5.0-r1/work/tensorflow-2.5.0-python3_9-bazel-base/execroot/org_tensorflow
&& \
  exec env - \
HOME=/var/tmp/portage/sci-libs/tensorflow-2.5.0-r1/homedir \
KERAS_HOME=/var/tmp/portage/sci-libs/tensorflow-2.5.0-r1/temp/.keras \

PATH=/var/tmp/portage/sci-libs/tensorflow-2.5.0-r1/temp/python3.9/bin:/usr/lib/portage/python3.9/ebuild-helpers:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/opt/bin:/usr/lib/llvm/12/bin
\
PWD=/proc/self/cwd \
PYTHON_BIN_PATH=/usr/bin/python3.9 \
PYTHON_LIB_PATH=/usr/lib/python3.9/site-packages \
TF2_BEHAVIOR=1 \

TF_SYSTEM_LIBS=absl_py,astor_archive,astunparse_archive,boringssl,com_github_googlecloudplatform_google_cloud_cpp,com_github_grpc_grpc,com_google_protobuf,curl,cython,dill_archive,double_conversion,enum34_archive,flatbuffers,functools32_archive,gast_archive,gif,hwloc,icu,jsoncpp_git,libjpeg_turbo,lmdb,nasm,nsync,opt_einsum_archive,org_sqlite,pasta,pcre,png,pybind11,six_archive,snappy,tblib_archive,termcolor_archive,typing_extensions_archive,wrapt,zlib
\
  /usr/bin/gcc @bazel-out/k8-opt/bin/tensorflow/libtensorflow.so.2.5.0-2.params)
Execution platform: @local_execution_config_platform//:platform
bazel-out/k8-opt/bin/tensorflow/core/profiler/_objs/profiler_analysis_proto_cc_impl/profiler_analysis.grpc.pb.pic.o:profiler_analysis.grpc.pb.cc:function
grpc::CompletionQueue::~CompletionQueue(): error: undefined reference
to 'absl::lts_20210324::Mutex::~Mutex()'
bazel-out/k8-opt/bin/tensorflow/core/profiler/_objs/profiler_analysis_proto_cc_impl/profiler_analysis.grpc.pb.pic.o:profiler_analysis.grpc.pb.cc:function
grpc::CompletionQueue::~CompletionQueue(): error: undefined reference
to 'absl::lts_20210324::Mutex::~Mutex()'
bazel-out/k8-opt/bin/tensorflow/core/profiler/_objs/profiler_analysis_proto_cc_impl/profiler_analysis.grpc.pb.pic.o:profiler_analysis.grpc.pb.cc:function
grpc::internal::BlockingUnaryCallImpl::BlockingUnaryCallImpl(grpc::ChannelInterface*,
grpc::internal::RpcMethod const&, grpc::ClientContext*,
google::protobuf::MessageLite const&, google::protobuf::MessageLite*):
error: undefined reference to 'absl::lts_20210324::Mutex::~Mutex()'
bazel-out/k8-opt/bin/tensorflow/core/profiler/_objs/profiler_analysis_proto_cc_impl/profiler_analysis.grpc.pb.pic.o:profiler_analysis.grpc.pb.cc:function
grpc::internal::BlockingUnaryCallImpl::BlockingUnaryCallImpl(grpc::ChannelInterface*,
grpc::internal::RpcMethod const&, grpc::ClientContext*,
google::protobuf::MessageLite const&, google::protobuf::MessageLite*):
error: undefined reference to 'absl::lts_20210324::Mutex::~Mutex()'
bazel-out/k8-opt/bin/tensorflow/core/debug/_objs/debug_service_proto_cc_impl/debug_service.grpc.pb.pic.o:debug_service.grpc.pb.cc:function
grpc::internal::ClientCallbackReaderWriterImpl::Read(tensorflow::EventReply*): error:
undefined reference to 'absl::lts_20210324::Mutex::Lock()'
bazel-out/k8-opt/bin/tensorflow/core/debug/_objs/debug_service_proto_cc_impl/debug_service.grpc.pb.pic.o:debug_service.grpc.pb.cc:function
grpc::internal::ClientCallbackReaderWriterImpl::Read(tensorflow::EventReply*): error:
undefined reference to 'absl::lts_20210324::Mutex::Unlock()'
bazel-out/k8-opt/bin/tensorflow/core/debug/_objs/debug_service_proto_cc_impl/debug_service.grpc.pb.pic.o:debug_service.grpc.pb.cc:function
grpc::internal::ClientCallbackReaderWriterImpl::Read(tensorflow::EventReply*): error:
undefined reference to 'absl::lts_20210324::Mutex::Unlock()'
bazel-out/k8-opt/bin/tensorflow/core/debug/_objs/debug_service_proto_cc_impl/debug_service.grpc.pb.pic.o:debug_service.grpc.pb.cc:function
grpc::internal::ClientCallbackReaderWriterImpl::Write(tensorflow::Event const*,
grpc::WriteOptions): error: undefined reference to
'absl::lts_20210324::Mutex::Lock()'
bazel-out/k8-opt/bin/tensorflow/core/debug/_objs/debug_service_proto_cc_impl/debug_service.grpc.pb.pic.o:debug_service.grpc.pb.cc:function
grpc::internal::ClientCallbackReaderWriterImpl::Write(tensorflow::Event const*,
grpc::WriteOptions): error: undefined reference to
'absl::lts_20210324::Mutex::Unlock()'
bazel-out/k8-opt/bin/tensorflow/core/debug/_objs/debug_service_proto_cc_impl/debug_service.grpc.pb.pic.o:debug_service.grpc.pb.cc:function
grpc::internal::ClientCallbackReaderWriterImpl::Write(tensorflow::Event const*,
grpc::WriteOptions): error: undefined reference to
'absl::lts_20210324::Mutex::Unlock()'
bazel-out/k8-opt/bin/tensorflow/core/debug/_objs/debug_service_proto_cc_impl/debug_service.grpc.pb.pic.o:debug_service.grpc.pb.cc:function
grpc::internal::ClientCallbackReaderWriterImpl::WritesDone(): error: undefined reference to
'absl::lts_20210324::Mutex::Lock()'

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo system suddenly failed to boot.

2021-02-18 Thread gevisz
чт, 18 февр. 2021 г. в 01:10, Michael :
>
> On Wednesday, 17 February 2021 21:45:35 GMT gevisz wrote:
>
> > Most probably, both my SATA disks have connection problems as
> > Oli Schmidt suggested from the very beginning, and because they
> > both have it, it points to the motherboard that already had quite
> > a bad track record.
> >
> > Unfortunately, I cannot diagnose it further, but later will try
> > to experiment with attaching my SATA drives again.
>
> It may be worth mentioning I've experienced similar problems with an old MoBo,
> different to yours.  Eventually I narrowed it down to a loose SATA connector
> on the MoBo.  It would either fail completely to boot, or it would boot but
> the disk would make a clicking noise.  I initially suspected a dying disk, but
> after I reseated the cable on the MoBo the problem went away, for a while,
> until I reseated it once more.  :-)
>
> The ATA disk would boot normally (IDE controller).
>
> Anyway, just make sure you have enable AHCI instead of IDE type controller on
> your BIOS menu for the SATA disk and have configured the Gentoo kernel
> appropriately to include AHCI.

I will look into this and report if I will find something. Thank you.



Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo system suddenly failed to boot.

2021-02-17 Thread gevisz
ср, 17 февр. 2021 г. в 13:58, gevisz :
>
> ср, 17 февр. 2021 г. в 13:50, gevisz :
> >
> > ср, 17 февр. 2021 г. в 04:54, Edward :
> > >
> > > On 2/15/21 9:53 AM, gevisz wrote:
> > > > Yesterday, my relatively new install of Gentoo failed to boot with the
> > > > following repeated messages:
> > > >
> > > > ata5.04: SATA link down (SStatus 0 SControl 0)
> > > > ata5.04: hard resetting link
> > > > ata5.04: failed to resume link (SStatus 0 Scontrol 0)
> > > >
> > > > My first thought was that something is wrong with my old IDE (ATA)
> > > > drive. (The Gentoo system partition was on /dev/sda5.)
> > >
> > > What motherboard model is this?
> >
> > It is a good question. My motherboard is Gigabyte Ultra Durable 
> > GA-MA790FXT-UD5P
> > and I had problems with it from the very beginning in the sense that it is
> > quite often doesn't see my SATA disks on the first boot (though, on the 
> > second
> > reboot it usually finds them). It is also quite often that it stops booting
> > the legacy operating system and automatically reboots before showing
> > a login screen.
> >
> > I bought it somewhere in 2006 together with a Gigabyte S-series 
> > GA-MA69GM-S2H
> > motherboard, which I have been intensively using every day since then and 
> > never
> > had any problem.
> >
> > In contrast, the Ultra Durable one has been used very rarely and for
> > quite short periods of time.
> > So, I do not expect it to wear off by now.
> >
> > > Probably BIOS disk controller setting needs to be set to either SATA AHCI 
> > > or something else?
> >
> > Well, I will look into but the problem is that it worked previously
> > with the same BIOS settings.
> >
> > Below is an account of what I have done so far.
> >
> > First of all, I copied the system partition from my ATA to the SATA
> > drive, updated the system,
> > recompiled @system, openrc and gentoo-kernel, which unfortunately had
> > no effect on the booting problem.
> >
> > At this stage, I started to seriously consider the suggestions above
> > that it may be a hardware problem.
> >
> > So, I returned to the initial ATA system partition, updated the system
> > there, switched off swap (in fstab),
> > reinstalled grub on this disk and tried to boot from it. To my great
> > surprise it failed to boot again
> > complaining about links to two my SATA drives that it was not supposed
> > to use at all!
>
> Correction:
> Of course, in this case, I have not reinstalled gentoo-kernel.
> So, it may be that the links to my SATA drives are still in
> the initramfs that was created before. (The swap was one of my
> SATA drives.)
>
> However, I used another SATA drive to try the system from there
> (with swap on it) with the same failure to boot.
>
> > And the legacy operating system has absolutely no problem starting
> > from the ATA drive now.
>
> P.S. Currently, I am going to remove my SATA disks from the system and
> try to reboot it once again. If it will not help, I am going to recompile
> gentoo-kernel on the only remaining ATA disk. (And, if that will not help,
> I will look for the hammer. :)

So, I have removed both my SATA disks and tried to reboot:
the system stalled without any error message at all.

After that I installed gentookernel and re-created initramfs image
(the previous one was created by the gentoo-kernel package before
the removal of the SATA disks).

After that, my Gentoo system successfully rebooted from the only
(ATA) disk that remained.

So, the problem is partially solved.

However, I still do not understand the exact reason for it to appear.

Most probably, both my SATA disks have connection problems as
Oli Schmidt suggested from the very beginning, and because they
both have it, it points to the motherboard that already had quite
a bad track record.

Unfortunately, I cannot diagnose it further, but later will try
to experiment with attaching my SATA drives again.

Also, I am going to test voltage outputs of my Enermax power
supply unit when I will have such a possibility. It is quite old but
was not used intensively. The other one, Thermaltake, is even older,
was intensively used everyday, and still had no problems. (Both
were bought with a big margin with respect to my computer's
power demand).

Thanks to all who replied to this thread.



Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo system suddenly failed to boot.

2021-02-17 Thread gevisz
ср, 17 февр. 2021 г. в 13:50, gevisz :
>
> ср, 17 февр. 2021 г. в 04:54, Edward :
> >
> > On 2/15/21 9:53 AM, gevisz wrote:
> > > Yesterday, my relatively new install of Gentoo failed to boot with the
> > > following repeated messages:
> > >
> > > ata5.04: SATA link down (SStatus 0 SControl 0)
> > > ata5.04: hard resetting link
> > > ata5.04: failed to resume link (SStatus 0 Scontrol 0)
> > >
> > > My first thought was that something is wrong with my old IDE (ATA)
> > > drive. (The Gentoo system partition was on /dev/sda5.)
> >
> > What motherboard model is this?
>
> It is a good question. My motherboard is Gigabyte Ultra Durable 
> GA-MA790FXT-UD5P
> and I had problems with it from the very beginning in the sense that it is
> quite often doesn't see my SATA disks on the first boot (though, on the second
> reboot it usually finds them). It is also quite often that it stops booting
> the legacy operating system and automatically reboots before showing
> a login screen.
>
> I bought it somewhere in 2006 together with a Gigabyte S-series GA-MA69GM-S2H
> motherboard, which I have been intensively using every day since then and 
> never
> had any problem.
>
> In contrast, the Ultra Durable one has been used very rarely and for
> quite short periods of time.
> So, I do not expect it to wear off by now.
>
> > Probably BIOS disk controller setting needs to be set to either SATA AHCI 
> > or something else?
>
> Well, I will look into but the problem is that it worked previously
> with the same BIOS settings.
>
> Below is an account of what I have done so far.
>
> First of all, I copied the system partition from my ATA to the SATA
> drive, updated the system,
> recompiled @system, openrc and gentoo-kernel, which unfortunately had
> no effect on the booting problem.
>
> At this stage, I started to seriously consider the suggestions above
> that it may be a hardware problem.
>
> So, I returned to the initial ATA system partition, updated the system
> there, switched off swap (in fstab),
> reinstalled grub on this disk and tried to boot from it. To my great
> surprise it failed to boot again
> complaining about links to two my SATA drives that it was not supposed
> to use at all!

Correction:
Of course, in this case, I have not reinstalled gentoo-kernel.
So, it may be that the links to my SATA drives are still in
the initramfs that was created before. (The swap was one of my
SATA drives.)

However, I used another SATA drive to try the system from there
(with swap on it) with the same failure to boot.

> And the legacy operating system has absolutely no problem starting
> from the ATA drive now.

P.S. Currently, I am going to remove my SATA disks from the system and
try to reboot it once again. If it will not help, I am going to recompile
gentoo-kernel on the only remaining ATA disk. (And, if that will not help,
I will look for the hammer. :)



Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo system suddenly failed to boot.

2021-02-17 Thread gevisz
ср, 17 февр. 2021 г. в 04:54, Edward :
>
> On 2/15/21 9:53 AM, gevisz wrote:
> > Yesterday, my relatively new install of Gentoo failed to boot with the
> > following repeated messages:
> >
> > ata5.04: SATA link down (SStatus 0 SControl 0)
> > ata5.04: hard resetting link
> > ata5.04: failed to resume link (SStatus 0 Scontrol 0)
> >
> > My first thought was that something is wrong with my old IDE (ATA)
> > drive. (The Gentoo system partition was on /dev/sda5.)
>
> What motherboard model is this?

It is a good question. My motherboard is Gigabyte Ultra Durable GA-MA790FXT-UD5P
and I had problems with it from the very beginning in the sense that it is
quite often doesn't see my SATA disks on the first boot (though, on the second
reboot it usually finds them). It is also quite often that it stops booting
the legacy operating system and automatically reboots before showing
a login screen.

I bought it somewhere in 2006 together with a Gigabyte S-series GA-MA69GM-S2H
motherboard, which I have been intensively using every day since then and never
had any problem.

In contrast, the Ultra Durable one has been used very rarely and for
quite short periods of time.
So, I do not expect it to wear off by now.

> Probably BIOS disk controller setting needs to be set to either SATA AHCI or 
> something else?

Well, I will look into but the problem is that it worked previously
with the same BIOS settings.

Below is an account of what I have done so far.

First of all, I copied the system partition from my ATA to the SATA
drive, updated the system,
recompiled @system, openrc and gentoo-kernel, which unfortunately had
no effect on the booting problem.

At this stage, I started to seriously consider the suggestions above
that it may be a hardware problem.

So, I returned to the initial ATA system partition, updated the system
there, switched off swap (in fstab),
reinstalled grub on this disk and tried to boot from it. To my great
surprise it failed to boot again
complaining about links to two my SATA drives that it was not supposed
to use at all!

Of course, in this case, I have not reinstalled gentoo-kernel. So, may
be, the links to my SATA drives
are in the initramfs that still contains links to one of the other
SATA drive. (Its swap was there.)

However, I used another SATA drive to try the system from there.

And the legacy operating system has absolutely no problem starting
from the ATA drive now.



Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo system suddenly failed to boot.

2021-02-15 Thread gevisz
пн, 15 февр. 2021 г. в 22:18, Oli Schmidt :
>
> ata5.04: SATA link down (SStatus 0 SControl 0)
> ata5.04: hard resetting link
> ata5.04: failed to resume link (SStatus 0 Scontrol 0)
>
> and
>
> ata5.04: SATA link down (SStatus 0 SControl 0)
> ata5.04: hard resetting link
> ata5.04: failed to resume link (SStatus 0 Scontrol 0)
>
>
> beside all the install/reinstalls - both errors indicate the drive is
> failing OR (my best guess) the cable is bad. Replace the cable with a
> new one and try again.

Thank you for the tips.

However, the same cable allows me to boot Gentoo from minimal CD and
legacy system from an old IDE drive.

As to the new SATA drive, I formatted it anew and created ext4 file system with
mkfs.ext4 --cc /dev/sdb2
which 4 times tested the partition writing and reading from it.

Moreover, after chrooting into the partition, I do all update and
emerge tasks, and it works fine.

> On 2021-02-15 21:13, gevisz wrote:
> > пн, 15 февр. 2021 г. в 20:59, Jude DaShiell :
> >>
> >> Check the date and time when you boot and if it isn't correct, you
> >> probably have a dead battery on your motherboard.  I had to replace
> >> one a
> >> couple days ago.  Fortunately the kind of battery my computer uses is
> >> sold
> >> in pharmacies since blood sugar meters also use them.
> >
> > Legacy system shows incorrect time but I think that it is because of
> > the dual-boot with Linux and not because of the battery issue.
> > The date is still correct: Monday, February 15, 2021.
> >
> > Well, probably my best option to reinstall the system from scratch. :(
> >
> >>   On Mon, 15 Feb 2021, gevisz wrote:
> >>
> >> > Yesterday, my relatively new install of Gentoo failed to boot with the
> >> > following repeated messages:
> >> >
> >> > ata5.04: SATA link down (SStatus 0 SControl 0)
> >> > ata5.04: hard resetting link
> >> > ata5.04: failed to resume link (SStatus 0 Scontrol 0)
> >> >
> >> > My first thought was that something is wrong with my old IDE (ATA)
> >> > drive. (The Gentoo system partition was on /dev/sda5.)
> >> >
> >> > Nevertheless, I was able to boot from a flash drive with a live Gentoo
> >> > CD and chroot into the Gentoo system partition of my IDE drive.
> >> >
> >> > So, I formatted a new SATA drive according to instructions given in
> >> > Gentoo AMD64 Handbook, rsynced the corresponding IDE system partition
> >> > into it by the following command:
> >> >
> >> > rsync -qaHAXS source_dir target_dir
> >> >
> >> > made the necessary changes to the corresponding fstab file, chrooted
> >> > into the new system SATA partition, recompiled grub and installed it
> >> > on the new disk.
> >> >
> >> > After all that I was able to boot the Gentoo system from the new
> >> > partition. However, the booting process went as slow as hell, and at
> >> > the end Xorg server failed to start.
> >> >
> >> > My next guess was that something went wrong with the last kernel I
> >> > used to boot. So, I tried to boot using the previous kernel.
> >> >
> >> > However, this time the booting failed with almost the same messages as 
> >> > above:
> >> >
> >> > ata5.03: failed to resume link (SStatus 0 SControl 0)
> >> > ata5.03: SATA link down (SStatus 0 SControl 0)
> >> > ata5.03: hard resetting link
> >> > ata6.04: failed to resume link (SStatus 0 SControl 0)
> >> >
> >> > (Now, my new Gentoo system partition is on /dev/sdb2.)
> >> >
> >> > Shall I try to do something to fix it before reinstalling Gentoo anew?
> >> >
> >> > For example, I thought of booting with a live Gentoo flash drive,
> >> > chrooting into the new system partition and recompiling @system.
> >> > However, if it is not some package that is corrupted, it may be a waste 
> >> > of time.
> >> > Or, maybe, @system may be narrowed to just a few packages needed at boot 
> >> > time?
> >> > Shall I try to recreate initramfs, what in my case means re-emerging
> >> > gentoo-kernel package?
> >> > What do you think?
> >> >
> >> > P.S. Nevertheless, I still can successfully boot my very old legacy
> >> > system from another partition of my IDE drive.
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
>



Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo system suddenly failed to boot.

2021-02-15 Thread gevisz
пн, 15 февр. 2021 г. в 20:59, Jude DaShiell :
>
> Check the date and time when you boot and if it isn't correct, you
> probably have a dead battery on your motherboard.  I had to replace one a
> couple days ago.  Fortunately the kind of battery my computer uses is sold
> in pharmacies since blood sugar meters also use them.

Legacy system shows incorrect time but I think that it is because of
the dual-boot with Linux and not because of the battery issue.
The date is still correct: Monday, February 15, 2021.

Well, probably my best option to reinstall the system from scratch. :(

>   On Mon, 15 Feb 2021, gevisz wrote:
>
> > Yesterday, my relatively new install of Gentoo failed to boot with the
> > following repeated messages:
> >
> > ata5.04: SATA link down (SStatus 0 SControl 0)
> > ata5.04: hard resetting link
> > ata5.04: failed to resume link (SStatus 0 Scontrol 0)
> >
> > My first thought was that something is wrong with my old IDE (ATA)
> > drive. (The Gentoo system partition was on /dev/sda5.)
> >
> > Nevertheless, I was able to boot from a flash drive with a live Gentoo
> > CD and chroot into the Gentoo system partition of my IDE drive.
> >
> > So, I formatted a new SATA drive according to instructions given in
> > Gentoo AMD64 Handbook, rsynced the corresponding IDE system partition
> > into it by the following command:
> >
> > rsync -qaHAXS source_dir target_dir
> >
> > made the necessary changes to the corresponding fstab file, chrooted
> > into the new system SATA partition, recompiled grub and installed it
> > on the new disk.
> >
> > After all that I was able to boot the Gentoo system from the new
> > partition. However, the booting process went as slow as hell, and at
> > the end Xorg server failed to start.
> >
> > My next guess was that something went wrong with the last kernel I
> > used to boot. So, I tried to boot using the previous kernel.
> >
> > However, this time the booting failed with almost the same messages as 
> > above:
> >
> > ata5.03: failed to resume link (SStatus 0 SControl 0)
> > ata5.03: SATA link down (SStatus 0 SControl 0)
> > ata5.03: hard resetting link
> > ata6.04: failed to resume link (SStatus 0 SControl 0)
> >
> > (Now, my new Gentoo system partition is on /dev/sdb2.)
> >
> > Shall I try to do something to fix it before reinstalling Gentoo anew?
> >
> > For example, I thought of booting with a live Gentoo flash drive,
> > chrooting into the new system partition and recompiling @system.
> > However, if it is not some package that is corrupted, it may be a waste of 
> > time.
> > Or, maybe, @system may be narrowed to just a few packages needed at boot 
> > time?
> > Shall I try to recreate initramfs, what in my case means re-emerging
> > gentoo-kernel package?
> > What do you think?
> >
> > P.S. Nevertheless, I still can successfully boot my very old legacy
> > system from another partition of my IDE drive.
> >
> >
>



[gentoo-user] Gentoo system suddenly failed to boot.

2021-02-15 Thread gevisz
Yesterday, my relatively new install of Gentoo failed to boot with the
following repeated messages:

ata5.04: SATA link down (SStatus 0 SControl 0)
ata5.04: hard resetting link
ata5.04: failed to resume link (SStatus 0 Scontrol 0)

My first thought was that something is wrong with my old IDE (ATA)
drive. (The Gentoo system partition was on /dev/sda5.)

Nevertheless, I was able to boot from a flash drive with a live Gentoo
CD and chroot into the Gentoo system partition of my IDE drive.

So, I formatted a new SATA drive according to instructions given in
Gentoo AMD64 Handbook, rsynced the corresponding IDE system partition
into it by the following command:

rsync -qaHAXS source_dir target_dir

made the necessary changes to the corresponding fstab file, chrooted
into the new system SATA partition, recompiled grub and installed it
on the new disk.

After all that I was able to boot the Gentoo system from the new
partition. However, the booting process went as slow as hell, and at
the end Xorg server failed to start.

My next guess was that something went wrong with the last kernel I
used to boot. So, I tried to boot using the previous kernel.

However, this time the booting failed with almost the same messages as above:

ata5.03: failed to resume link (SStatus 0 SControl 0)
ata5.03: SATA link down (SStatus 0 SControl 0)
ata5.03: hard resetting link
ata6.04: failed to resume link (SStatus 0 SControl 0)

(Now, my new Gentoo system partition is on /dev/sdb2.)

Shall I try to do something to fix it before reinstalling Gentoo anew?

For example, I thought of booting with a live Gentoo flash drive,
chrooting into the new system partition and recompiling @system.
However, if it is not some package that is corrupted, it may be a waste of time.
Or, maybe, @system may be narrowed to just a few packages needed at boot time?
Shall I try to recreate initramfs, what in my case means re-emerging
gentoo-kernel package?
What do you think?

P.S. Nevertheless, I still can successfully boot my very old legacy
system from another partition of my IDE drive.



[gentoo-user] Re: pycharm-community crashed on the first start

2021-01-24 Thread gevisz
ср, 23 дек. 2020 г. в 22:33, gevisz :
>
> I have just installed pycharm-community 2020.1.3 (marked stable) with
> its default settings (that is with +bundled-jdk use flag) on my newly
> installed Gentoo system and tried to start it using the following
> command:
> /opt/pycharm-community/bin/pycharm.sh
>
> Unfortunately, pycharm crashed on the start reporting the following error:
>
> # A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment:
> #
> #  SIGSEGV (0xb) at pc=0x, pid=26676, tid=26725
> #
> # JRE version: OpenJDK Runtime Environment (11.0.7+10) (build 
> 11.0.7+10-b765.64)
> # Java VM: OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (11.0.7+10-b765.64, mixed mode,
> tiered, compressed oops, concurrent mark sweep gc, linux-amd64)
> # Problematic frame:
> # C  0x
> #
> # Core dump will be written. Default location: /home/gevis/core
> #
> # If you would like to submit a bug report, please visit:
> #   http://bugreport.java.com/bugreport/crash.jsp
> # The crash happened outside the Java Virtual Machine in native code.
> # See problematic frame for where to report the bug.
>
> A longer error report from /home/gevis/java_error_in_PYCHARM_26676.log
> tells me nothing meaningful. :(
>
> I have no other Java JDK installed on my system.
>
> Is it a known problem? Shall I try to install pycharm with
> -bundled-jdk use flag?

I have just compiled pycharm-community without bundled-jdk use flag
and found out that now it can start (after setting
export PYCHARM_JDK=`java-config -O`

Moreover, I have found out that, in
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/PyCharm_Community_Edition, it is stated
that "There are currently no USE flags available for
dev-util/pycharm-community" which is definitely not true.

So, I have filed the following bug about all this:
https://bugs.gentoo.org/764926



[gentoo-user] Voting for the best software of 2020 on LinuxQuestions.org

2021-01-08 Thread gevisz
Recently, I got an e-mail on voting for the best software
of 2020 (including the preferred Linux distribution) on
LinuxQuestions.org and think that it may be of interest
for gentoo-users as well (and will help Gentoo to be better presented :).

Moreover, the more users will vote, the more interesting will be the results.

The original e-mail is provided below.

-- Forwarded message -
От: 
Date: ср, 6 янв. 2021 г. в 00:23
Subject: LinuxQuestions.org - Community Bulletin

Voting for the 2020 LinuxQuestions.org Members Choice Awards is now
open. The Members Choice Awards allow the Linux community to select
their favorite products in a variety of categories. Awards will be
given out in 40 categories this year, including Browser of the Year,
Desktop and Server Distribution of the Year, Linux/Open Source Podcast
of the Year, Audio Media Player of the Year, and more. The polls will
close on February 17th. Visit
https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/2020-linuxquestions-org-members-choice-awards-131/welcome-to-the-2020-linuxquestions-org-members-choice-awards-4175687341/
for more information. Vote now and make sure your voice is heard!

-jeremy
http://jeremy.linuxquestions.org/



[gentoo-user] pycharm-community crashed on the first start

2020-12-23 Thread gevisz
I have just installed pycharm-community 2020.1.3 (marked stable) with
its default settings (that is with +bundled-jdk use flag) on my newly
installed Gentoo system and tried to start it using the following
command:
/opt/pycharm-community/bin/pycharm.sh

Unfortunately, pycharm crashed on the start reporting the following error:

# A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment:
#
#  SIGSEGV (0xb) at pc=0x, pid=26676, tid=26725
#
# JRE version: OpenJDK Runtime Environment (11.0.7+10) (build 11.0.7+10-b765.64)
# Java VM: OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (11.0.7+10-b765.64, mixed mode,
tiered, compressed oops, concurrent mark sweep gc, linux-amd64)
# Problematic frame:
# C  0x
#
# Core dump will be written. Default location: /home/gevis/core
#
# If you would like to submit a bug report, please visit:
#   http://bugreport.java.com/bugreport/crash.jsp
# The crash happened outside the Java Virtual Machine in native code.
# See problematic frame for where to report the bug.

A longer error report from /home/gevis/java_error_in_PYCHARM_26676.log
tells me nothing meaningful. :(

I have no other Java JDK installed on my system.

Is it a known problem? Shall I try to install pycharm with
-bundled-jdk use flag?



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: XWindow appearing in a non-graphical tty. A bug or feature?

2020-12-19 Thread gevisz
сб, 19 дек. 2020 г. в 10:07, Nikos Chantziaras :
>
> On 18/12/2020 18:04, gevisz wrote:
> > During the last 22 years, I got used to the setting
> > when the XWindow system appeared on one of
> > the "graphical" virtual terminals, mostly on tty6 or tty7.
> >
> > However, after installing a new Gentoo system with
> > gentoo-kernel, I found out that the XWindow system
> > started to appear in the same tty, where I started it
> > using the startx command, shadowing all that was
> > typed there including the messages from the xorg-server.
> >
> > So, I just wonder: "Is it a bug or a feature?"
> >
> > And where exactly can one configure it?
>
> Are you using systemd? In contrast to OpenRC, systemd launches X11 on
> the current TTY:
>
> https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=169903

No, I am using OpenRC.



Re: [gentoo-user] Mystically disabled Ethernet connection

2020-12-18 Thread gevisz
пт, 18 дек. 2020 г. в 18:26, bobwxc :
>
> 在 2020/12/19 上午1:29, gevisz 写道:
> > I am currently installing a new Gentoo system
> > on a computer that is run by a Gentoo system
> > that has not been updated since January 2019.
> >
> > Initially, I did so by chrooting to a newly formatted
> > disk partition. My intention was to build everything
> > in the chrooted environment and only then start
> > to work in the new Gentoo system.
> >
> > However, when after installing Grub I rebooted into
> > the new Gentoo system to find out if it works and
> > rebooted again into the old Gentoo system to continue
> > compilation in the chroot environment, I found out
> > that my computer does not have a working ethernet
> > connection to my home router. The "ip addr" command
> > showed that my ethernet interface is down.
> >
> > I tried "ip link set  up" and "ifconfig  up"
> > commands, where  substitutes the correct,
> > "predictable," name of my ethernet interface but it
> > had not helped.
> >
> > Initially, I thought that something was wrong with my
> > hardware, but when I rebooted into my new Gentoo
> > system, the ethernet interface started to work again.
> > Then, I rebooted back to the old system, and
> > the ethernet interface stopped working again.
> >
> > It is very strange because I am sure that I have not
> > changed anything on my old Gentoo system except
> > for installing a new Grub onto the system disk.
> >
> > So, I have tried to reinstall (the old) Grub from
> > my old system, but it has not helped either.
> >
> > Finally, I decided that it would be easier to complete
> > installation of the new Gentoo system than to find out
> > what is wrong with the old Gentoo system ethernet
> > connection. So, I compiled xorg-x11, awesome, gvim,
> > xfce4-terminal and are currently compiling firefox.
> >
> > Hopefully, tomorrow I will already have my new Gentoo
> > system working.
> >
> > However, I am still wondering why the ethernet interface
> > stopped working on my old Gentoo system.
> >
> > As, I have already said, I am pretty sure that I have not
> > changed anything in its settings. Moreover, I have looked
> > through the entire /etc directory of my old Gentoo system
> > for config files that were modified during the installation
> > of the new Gentoo system (suspecting that instead of the
> > chrooted environment I put an installation command into
> > the su terminal of my old Gentoo system or mistakenly
> > edited a configuration file of my old Gentoo system) but
> > found no config file that was modified during this period of time.
> >
> > So, I am not in a desperate need for help, but just interested
> > to find out the reason for such a strange behaviour of the
> > ethernet interface.
> >
> > P.S. I have read in the Gentoo Network management wiki
> > that the connman, netifrc, dhcpcd, networkmanager, and
> > openrc should not be run at the same time because it could
> > lead to "unpredictable results" and checked if it is not
> > the case on my old Gentoo system. No, on my old Gentoo
> > system installed is only the openrc with the netifrc use flag
> > and netifrc (which, as I guess, leads to only netifrc being used).
> > But, anyway, it has been worked so for years and only
> > now suddenly stopped.
>
> That is interesting. Something must been changed here.
> Do you use some partitions for both gentoo systems?
> Not the root, just like boot ESP partition or home.

Yes, I mount the same home partition (actually the separate disk) on both.
And it still has some configuration files from a pre-Gentoo era :)
as it has been used for Ubuntu 10 years ago.

A separate partition with rarely used virtual machines is also mounted
into a user directory. Also a common swap. ESP partition also exists
but I never mounted it on old Gentoo and recently disabled it from
mounting into a new one as well (after realized that it is not needed at all :).



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: XWindow appearing in a non-graphical tty. A bug or feature?

2020-12-18 Thread gevisz
пт, 18 дек. 2020 г. в 17:22, Grant Edwards :
>
> On 2020-12-18, gevisz  wrote:
>
> > During the last 22 years, I got used to the setting
> > when the XWindow system appeared on one of
> > the "graphical" virtual terminals, mostly on tty6 or tty7.
> >
> > However, after installing a new Gentoo system with
> > gentoo-kernel, I found out that the XWindow system
> > started to appear in the same tty, where I started it
> > using the startx command, shadowing all that was
> > typed there including the messages from the xorg-server.
> >
> > So, I just wonder: "Is it a bug or a feature?"
>
> IIRC, this happened as part of the switch to running the X server as a
> normal user instead of as root. As a normal user, you only "own" the
> tty you logged in on, so that's the one used by X.
>
> > And where exactly can one configure it?
>
> I assume that if you switch back to running X as root, you get the old
> behavior of the X server running on tty6/7/whatever. I don't know if
> there's a way to get that behavior while still running non-root X.
>

Ok, thank you for the answer,

I think that I could do with the new behaviour. :)



[gentoo-user] Mystically disabled Ethernet connection

2020-12-18 Thread gevisz
I am currently installing a new Gentoo system
on a computer that is run by a Gentoo system
that has not been updated since January 2019.

Initially, I did so by chrooting to a newly formatted
disk partition. My intention was to build everything
in the chrooted environment and only then start
to work in the new Gentoo system.

However, when after installing Grub I rebooted into
the new Gentoo system to find out if it works and
rebooted again into the old Gentoo system to continue
compilation in the chroot environment, I found out
that my computer does not have a working ethernet
connection to my home router. The "ip addr" command
showed that my ethernet interface is down.

I tried "ip link set  up" and "ifconfig  up"
commands, where  substitutes the correct,
"predictable," name of my ethernet interface but it
had not helped.

Initially, I thought that something was wrong with my
hardware, but when I rebooted into my new Gentoo
system, the ethernet interface started to work again.
Then, I rebooted back to the old system, and
the ethernet interface stopped working again.

It is very strange because I am sure that I have not
changed anything on my old Gentoo system except
for installing a new Grub onto the system disk.

So, I have tried to reinstall (the old) Grub from
my old system, but it has not helped either.

Finally, I decided that it would be easier to complete
installation of the new Gentoo system than to find out
what is wrong with the old Gentoo system ethernet
connection. So, I compiled xorg-x11, awesome, gvim,
xfce4-terminal and are currently compiling firefox.

Hopefully, tomorrow I will already have my new Gentoo
system working.

However, I am still wondering why the ethernet interface
stopped working on my old Gentoo system.

As, I have already said, I am pretty sure that I have not
changed anything in its settings. Moreover, I have looked
through the entire /etc directory of my old Gentoo system
for config files that were modified during the installation
of the new Gentoo system (suspecting that instead of the
chrooted environment I put an installation command into
the su terminal of my old Gentoo system or mistakenly
edited a configuration file of my old Gentoo system) but
found no config file that was modified during this period of time.

So, I am not in a desperate need for help, but just interested
to find out the reason for such a strange behaviour of the
ethernet interface.

P.S. I have read in the Gentoo Network management wiki
that the connman, netifrc, dhcpcd, networkmanager, and
openrc should not be run at the same time because it could
lead to "unpredictable results" and checked if it is not
the case on my old Gentoo system. No, on my old Gentoo
system installed is only the openrc with the netifrc use flag
and netifrc (which, as I guess, leads to only netifrc being used).
But, anyway, it has been worked so for years and only
now suddenly stopped.



[gentoo-user] XWindow appearing in a non-graphical tty. A bug or feature?

2020-12-18 Thread gevisz
During the last 22 years, I got used to the setting
when the XWindow system appeared on one of
the "graphical" virtual terminals, mostly on tty6 or tty7.

However, after installing a new Gentoo system with
gentoo-kernel, I found out that the XWindow system
started to appear in the same tty, where I started it
using the startx command, shadowing all that was
typed there including the messages from the xorg-server.

So, I just wonder: "Is it a bug or a feature?"

And where exactly can one configure it?



Re: [gentoo-user] Recommended location of the Gentoo ebuild repository

2020-12-16 Thread gevisz
ср, 16 дек. 2020 г. в 16:55, Rich Freeman :
>
> On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 9:45 AM gevisz  wrote:
> >
> > Nevertheless, the explanation why /var/db/repos/gentoo is better than
> > /usr/portage is still welcomed. :)
> >
>
> There is a lengthy discussion on gentoo-dev on this, and my personal
> first choice didn't win.  :)
>
> There is little dispute that /var makes more sense than /usr other
> than legacy reasons.  /usr is generally used for static data - on some
> distros it might even be read-only, a squashfs, signed using crypto,
> and so on.  On a rolling release distro like Gentoo it might get
> changed often by updates, but other than system updates nothing in it
> should change.  On a more release-based distro only security updates
> or major releases would touch it.
>
> /var on the other hand is used for application data and other things
> that change all the time.  That includes things like databases, which
> the Gentoo repo basically is.  Mail spools, print spools, caches, and
> so on all go on there.
>
> FHS formalizes all this stuff.
>
> Now, where exactly in /var it goes is more a matter of debate.
> /var/db is not specified in FHS, but it is used by FreeBSD which I
> think was one of the selling points.  Personally I stick it in
> /var/cache as (IMO) it just contains a local copy of a repository that
> is entirely stored elsewhere.  Some would certainly disagree with
> that.  I think /var/lib would be an alternative place that keeps more
> to FHS.
>
> However, moving it out of /usr was a move with near-universal support.
> And you can really put it anywhere you want by editing one line in
> your portage config.  I don't think the directory even exists in the
> base install - it gets created the first time you sync so it is
> entirely user-configurable.

Ok, thank you for the explanation.



Re: [gentoo-user] Recommended location of the Gentoo ebuild repository

2020-12-16 Thread gevisz
> On Wed, 16 Dec 2020 at 21:52, gevisz  wrote:
> >
> > How would you comment the following quote from Gentoo Handbook
> > "In most situations, /usr/ is to be kept big: not only will it contain
> >   the majority of applications, it typically also hosts the Gentoo ebuild
> >   repository (by default located at /var/db/repos/gentoo) which already
> >   takes around 650 MiB."
> > that can be found here:
> > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:AMD64/Installation/Disks ?
> >
> > Have I correctly understood that the Gentoo ebuild repository default 
> > location
> > is /var/db/repos/gentoo but virtually everybody relocate it to /usr/ during
> > the installation process?
> >
> > Why not change its default location to /usr/ in this case?
> >
> > Where the Gentoo ebuild repository should be allocated? Why?
> >
> On Wed, 16 Dec 2020 at 13:55, Miles Malone :
>
> It was historically in /usr/portage, it's now in /var/db/repos/gentoo.
> The handbook is apparently out of date on this.  If you've got the
> time I'm sure the handbook maintainers would appreciate a patch or a
> bug

Thank you for your reply. Now, it is a bit clearer.

Nevertheless, the explanation why /var/db/repos/gentoo is better than
/usr/portage is still welcomed. :)



[gentoo-user] Recommended location of the Gentoo ebuild repository

2020-12-16 Thread gevisz
How would you comment the following quote from Gentoo Handbook
"In most situations, /usr/ is to be kept big: not only will it contain
  the majority of applications, it typically also hosts the Gentoo ebuild
  repository (by default located at /var/db/repos/gentoo) which already
  takes around 650 MiB."
that can be found here:
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:AMD64/Installation/Disks ?

Have I correctly understood that the Gentoo ebuild repository default location
is /var/db/repos/gentoo but virtually everybody relocate it to /usr/ during
the installation process?

Why not change its default location to /usr/ in this case?

Where the Gentoo ebuild repository should be allocated? Why?



Re: [gentoo-user] No sound. Please, help!

2020-10-20 Thread gevisz
пн, 19 окт. 2020 г. в 18:13, Dale :
>
> gevisz wrote:
> > пн, 19 окт. 2020 г. в 02:18, Dale :
> >> On the modules or in kernel, I compile all mine in the kernel.  The only
> >> modules I have is my nvidia video drivers. There's pro's and con's to
> >> each so whatever works and you like.
> >
> > I actually asked a question not about the choice between "in kernel"
> > or "as a module" but about "to build or not to build" at all. :)
> >
> > So, once more: Is it better to compile the driver for my HDMI audio
> > device or not, if I am not going to use HDMI audio output?
> >
>
> Ahh.  Well, if you build it and then need it later, it's already there.
> If you don't and then need it later, you have to go back and build it
> and may be in a hurry.  I tend to get all hardware working even if I'm
> not using it at the time.

I have just thought that it may be better if the kernel knows how to
deal with this piece of hardware even if it is not going to use it.

> >> Glad it's working now.  I need a shower.  I been cutting down trees and
> >> dragging them to a pile to rot or burn.  I'm tired, I stink which
> >> requires a shower and I'm hungry.  Cutting and getting rid of a 24 inch
> >> across tree isn't easy when you have a 20 inch bar on the chainsaw.  :/
> > Thank you once more. And you should not rush to answer: my initial
> > intention was to finally solve this problem till the end of this
> > month, and now it is solved during only one weekend. :)
> >
> >
>
>
> Well, when on this mailing list, you will get ideas pretty fast.  Given
> that you had things working but not making noise, my first thought was
> the mute.  I ran into that a couple times myself in the past.  One would
> think it would default to a low level but something you can hear.  I
> guess tho they think you should be forced to adjust the mixers and other
> sound control settings so that you can enable/leave disabled to your
> liking.  It's 6 of one or half a dozen of the other I guess.  ;-)
>
> Back to cutting trees.  Got my insect spray on today tho.  Things sound
> like large helicopters flying around out there.  O-o

Maybe, it makes sense to find an easier job? :)



Re: [gentoo-user] No sound. Please, help!

2020-10-19 Thread gevisz
пн, 19 окт. 2020 г. в 02:18, Dale :
>
> On the modules or in kernel, I compile all mine in the kernel.  The only
> modules I have is my nvidia video drivers. There's pro's and con's to
> each so whatever works and you like.

I actually asked a question not about the choice between "in kernel"
or "as a module" but about "to build or not to build" at all. :)

So, once more: Is it better to compile the driver for my HDMI audio
device or not, if I am not going to use HDMI audio output?

> Glad it's working now.  I need a shower.  I been cutting down trees and
> dragging them to a pile to rot or burn.  I'm tired, I stink which
> requires a shower and I'm hungry.  Cutting and getting rid of a 24 inch
> across tree isn't easy when you have a 20 inch bar on the chainsaw.  :/

Thank you once more. And you should not rush to answer: my initial
intention was to finally solve this problem till the end of this
month, and now it is solved during only one weekend. :)



Re: [gentoo-user] No sound. Please, help!

2020-10-18 Thread gevisz
пн, 19 окт. 2020 г. в 00:15, gevisz :
>
> вс, 18 окт. 2020 г. в 21:15, Dale :
> >
> > gevisz wrote:
> > > вс, 18 окт. 2020 г. в 17:20, Dale :
> > >> gevisz wrote:
> > >>> No sound at least in Firefox. Tried it on youtube. Skype is currently
> > >>> uninstalled. So, I cannot check using it.
> > >> Just a thought.  Are you sure that everything is unmuted?  Years ago,
> > >> all the sound control software, Kmix, alsa and others, default to mute.
> > >> If just one of them is muted, no sound.  I seem to recall when I did my
> > >> install on this rig that I had to unmute the sound in three places,
> > >> Kmix, alsa and one other that I can't recall the name of.  I think I had
> > >> to turn up the volume on alsa as it was set to a really low level once
> > >> it was unmuted.  Usually, I turn all of them to the max except the one I
> > >> mainly use.  In my case, Kmix is the one I use to really control things
> > >> since it sits on the panel thingy.  The others are set at the max.
> > >>
> > >> It's a silly thing but thought it worth a mention just in case there is
> > >> a muted setting somewhere.
> > > Thank you for your input. Yes, it seems that something is muted but what?
> > > I have no KDE and no kmix installed. No pulseaudio.
> >
> > Type in alsamixer in a console or whatever you use and hit tab twice.  I
> > suspect you have that installed.  You should have a text version, like a
> > console uses, and a gui version, that should work in any DM.  Pick your
> > poison and see if anything there is muted or the volume is set really
> > low, like 1 out of 100 or something.  I think hitting the "m" key
> > toggles the mute.

Correction:
 I am sorry to confess that I FORGOT that I should use M to unmute
 a channel in alsamixer (as I did about 14 years ago) and thought
 that arrows up and down do all the work. :(

> So, now the problem has been solved and I can return to the custom kernel.
>
> One last question: Is it better to compile the driver for my HDMI
> audio device or not, if I am not going to use HDMI audio output?
>
> And thank you all who replied to this thread.
>
> > I think it's the arrow keys to increase or decrease volume
> > and move from channel to channel.  It has been a while
> > since I used that so can't recall.
> >
> > Let's just hope it is that simple.
> >
> > Dale



Re: [gentoo-user] No sound. Please, help!

2020-10-18 Thread gevisz
вс, 18 окт. 2020 г. в 21:15, Dale :
>
> gevisz wrote:
> > вс, 18 окт. 2020 г. в 17:20, Dale :
> >> gevisz wrote:
> >>> No sound at least in Firefox. Tried it on youtube. Skype is currently
> >>> uninstalled. So, I cannot check using it.
> >> Just a thought.  Are you sure that everything is unmuted?  Years ago,
> >> all the sound control software, Kmix, alsa and others, default to mute.
> >> If just one of them is muted, no sound.  I seem to recall when I did my
> >> install on this rig that I had to unmute the sound in three places,
> >> Kmix, alsa and one other that I can't recall the name of.  I think I had
> >> to turn up the volume on alsa as it was set to a really low level once
> >> it was unmuted.  Usually, I turn all of them to the max except the one I
> >> mainly use.  In my case, Kmix is the one I use to really control things
> >> since it sits on the panel thingy.  The others are set at the max.
> >>
> >> It's a silly thing but thought it worth a mention just in case there is
> >> a muted setting somewhere.
> > Thank you for your input. Yes, it seems that something is muted but what?
> > I have no KDE and no kmix installed. No pulseaudio.
>
> Type in alsamixer in a console or whatever you use and hit tab twice.  I
> suspect you have that installed.  You should have a text version, like a
> console uses, and a gui version, that should work in any DM.  Pick your
> poison and see if anything there is muted or the volume is set really
> low, like 1 out of 100 or something.  I think hitting the "m" key
> toggles the mute.

I am sorry to confess that I should use M to unmute a channel in
alsamixer (as I did about 14 years ago) and thought that arrows up and
down do all the work. :(

So, now the problem has been solved and I can return to the custom kernel.

One last question: Is it better to compile the driver for my HDMI
audio device or not, if I am not going to use HDMI audio output?

And thank you all who replied to this thread.

> I think it's the arrow keys to increase or decrease volume
> and move from channel to channel.  It has been a while
> since I used that so can't recall.
>
> Let's just hope it is that simple.
>
> Dale



Re: [gentoo-user] No sound. Please, help!

2020-10-18 Thread gevisz
вс, 18 окт. 2020 г. в 17:20, Dale :
> gevisz wrote:
> >
> > No sound at least in Firefox. Tried it on youtube. Skype is currently
> > uninstalled. So, I cannot check using it.
>
> Just a thought.  Are you sure that everything is unmuted?  Years ago,
> all the sound control software, Kmix, alsa and others, default to mute.
> If just one of them is muted, no sound.  I seem to recall when I did my
> install on this rig that I had to unmute the sound in three places,
> Kmix, alsa and one other that I can't recall the name of.  I think I had
> to turn up the volume on alsa as it was set to a really low level once
> it was unmuted.  Usually, I turn all of them to the max except the one I
> mainly use.  In my case, Kmix is the one I use to really control things
> since it sits on the panel thingy.  The others are set at the max.
>
> It's a silly thing but thought it worth a mention just in case there is
> a muted setting somewhere.

Thank you for your input. Yes, it seems that something is muted but what?
I have no KDE and no kmix installed. No pulseaudio.



Re: [gentoo-user] No sound. Please, help!

2020-10-18 Thread gevisz
вс, 18 окт. 2020 г. в 17:19, David Haller :
> On Sun, 18 Oct 2020, gevisz wrote:
> >??, 18 ???. 2020 ?. ? 09:09, David Haller :
> [..]
> >> Try this in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa.conf (or some file there):
> >>
> >> 
> >> alias char-major-116 snd
> >> alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel
> >> options snd-hda-intel model=auto
> >> 
> [..]
> >So, after changes you suggested, it looks as follows:
> ># Alsa kernel modules' configuration file.
> >
> ># ALSA portion
> >alias char-major-116 snd
> ># OSS/Free portion
> >alias char-major-14 soundcore
> >
> >##
> >## IMPORTANT:
> >## You need to customise this section for your specific sound card(s)
> >## and then run `update-modules' command.
> >## Read alsa-driver's INSTALL file in /usr/share/doc for more info.
> >##
> >##  ALSA portion
> >## alias snd-card-0 snd-interwave
> >alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel
> >## alias snd-card-1 snd-ens1371
> >##  OSS/Free portion
> >## alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0
> >## alias sound-slot-1 snd-card-1
> >##
> >
> ># OSS/Free portion - card #1
> >alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss
> >alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss
> >alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss
> >alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss
> >alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss
> >##  OSS/Free portion - card #2
> >## alias sound-service-1-0 snd-mixer-oss
> >## alias sound-service-1-3 snd-pcm-oss
> >## alias sound-service-1-12 snd-pcm-oss
> >
> >alias /dev/mixer snd-mixer-oss
> >alias /dev/dsp snd-pcm-oss
> >alias /dev/midi snd-seq-oss
> >
> ># Set this to the correct number of cards.
> >options snd-hda-intel model=auto
> >options snd cards_limit=1
>
> Looks good, but snd-hda-codec-hdmi might still get loaded, so try with:
>
> options snd cards_limit=2
>
> (or even more)...
>
> >Tried to run 'update-modules' command but got
> >bash: update-modules: command not found
> >message.
>
> Should not be necessary.
>
> [still no sound after reboot in FF/Skype]
>
> Try:
>
> aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/test.wav
>
> before tackling FF etc. And check alsamixer etc. for it might have
> wrong options set as the device might have been moved..

Thank you for your help. I turned on the computer, changed options snd
cards_limit to 2 and ran aplay /usr/share/sound/alsa/*.wav (I have a
different named wav files). There was a sound. Then I started Firefox
and opened some youtube videos. The sound was present as well. Then I
opened alsamixer. Some of the channels were muted and some had no full
sound. Nevertheless, the sound had been present. I unmuted all the
channels and set the full sound level on all of them. Then I again
checked that the sound is present. It was. So, I rebooted the
computer, ran alsamixer and made sure that all channels are unmuted
and have full sound level. But this time the sound was absent exactly
as I expected. Neither aplay nor Firefox produced any sound. I have
already seen this behavior when I experimented with the kernel
configuration about 8 months ago: the same kernel options, the same
configuration files, all alsamixer channels are unmuted but after one
reboot I have a sound and on another I have no sound. Any thoughts?



Re: [gentoo-user] No sound. Please, help!

2020-10-18 Thread gevisz
вс, 18 окт. 2020 г. в 19:03, gevisz :
>
> вс, 18 окт. 2020 г. в 09:09, David Haller :
> > On Sat, 17 Oct 2020, gevisz wrote:
> > >??, 17 ???. 2020 ?. ? 14:57, David Haller :
> > [..]
> > >Here is the comparative table for your kernel parameters vs those of
> > >gentoo-kernel 5.4.64 and my last tried configuration in
> > >gentoo-sources-4.19.86:
> > >CONFIG | 4.14 | 5.4.64 | 4.19.86
> > >SND  | y  | m| y
> > >SND_TIMER   | y  | m| y
> > >SND_PCM  | y  | m| y
> > >SND_HWDEP | m | m| y
> > >SND_DRIVERS   | y  | y | y
> > >SND_PCI| y  | y | y
> > >SND_HDA  | m | m| y
> > >SND_HDA_INTEL| m| m| y
> > >SND_HDA_HWDEP | y | y | n
> > >SND_HDA_RECONFIG | y| y | y
> > >SND_HDA_CODEC_REALTEK | m | m | y
> > >SND_HDA_GENERIC   | m | m | y
> > >SND_HDA_CORE| m | m | y
> > >SND_SPI | y | n | absent
> >
> > Looks ok.
> >
> > [..]
> > >So, it seems that at least the configuration for kernel 5.4.64 should
> > >work. However, it does not.
> >
> > Try this in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa.conf (or some file there):
> >
> > 
> > alias char-major-116 snd
> > alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel
> > options snd-hda-intel model=auto
> > 
>
> I have not tried to edit any alsa configuration files before.
> Here is a content of my current /etc/modprobe.d/alsa.conf
> -
> # Alsa kernel modules' configuration file.
>
> # ALSA portion
> alias char-major-116 snd
> # OSS/Free portion
> alias char-major-14 soundcore
>
> ##
> ## IMPORTANT:
> ## You need to customise this section for your specific sound card(s)
> ## and then run `update-modules' command.
> ## Read alsa-driver's INSTALL file in /usr/share/doc for more info.
> ##
> ##  ALSA portion
> ## alias snd-card-0 snd-interwave
> ## alias snd-card-1 snd-ens1371
> ##  OSS/Free portion
> ## alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0
> ## alias sound-slot-1 snd-card-1
> ##
>
> # OSS/Free portion - card #1
> alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss
> alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss
> alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss
> alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss
> alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss
> ##  OSS/Free portion - card #2
> ## alias sound-service-1-0 snd-mixer-oss
> ## alias sound-service-1-3 snd-pcm-oss
> ## alias sound-service-1-12 snd-pcm-oss
>
> alias /dev/mixer snd-mixer-oss
> alias /dev/dsp snd-pcm-oss
> alias /dev/midi snd-seq-oss
>
> # Set this to the correct number of cards.
> options snd cards_limit=1
> ---
> So, after changes you suggested, it looks as follows:
> --
> # Alsa kernel modules' configuration file.
>
> # ALSA portion
> alias char-major-116 snd
> # OSS/Free portion
> alias char-major-14 soundcore
>
> ##
> ## IMPORTANT:
> ## You need to customise this section for your specific sound card(s)
> ## and then run `update-modules' command.
> ## Read alsa-driver's INSTALL file in /usr/share/doc for more info.
> ##
> ##  ALSA portion
> ## alias snd-card-0 snd-interwave
> alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel
> ## alias snd-card-1 snd-ens1371
> ##  OSS/Free portion
> ## alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0
> ## alias sound-slot-1 snd-card-1
> ##
>
> # OSS/Free portion - card #1
> alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss
> alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss
> alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss
> alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss
> alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss
> ##  OSS/Free portion - card #2
> ## alias sound-service-1-0 snd-mixer-oss
> ## alias sound-service-1-3 snd-pcm-oss
> ## alias sound-service-1-12 snd-pcm-oss
>
> alias /dev/mixer snd-mixer-oss
> alias /dev/dsp snd-pcm-oss
> alias /dev/midi snd-seq-oss
>
> # Set this to the correct number of cards.
> options snd-hda-intel model=auto
> options snd cards_limit=1
> --
> Tried to run 'update-modules' command but got
> bash: update-modules: command not found
> message.
>
> Will reboot now and report the result.

No sound at least in Firefox. Tried it on youtube. Skype is currently
uninstalled. So, I cannot check using it.



Re: [gentoo-user] No sound. Please, help!

2020-10-18 Thread gevisz
вс, 18 окт. 2020 г. в 09:09, David Haller :
> On Sat, 17 Oct 2020, gevisz wrote:
> >??, 17 ???. 2020 ?. ? 14:57, David Haller :
> [..]
> >Here is the comparative table for your kernel parameters vs those of
> >gentoo-kernel 5.4.64 and my last tried configuration in
> >gentoo-sources-4.19.86:
> >CONFIG | 4.14 | 5.4.64 | 4.19.86
> >SND  | y  | m| y
> >SND_TIMER   | y  | m| y
> >SND_PCM  | y  | m| y
> >SND_HWDEP | m | m| y
> >SND_DRIVERS   | y  | y | y
> >SND_PCI| y  | y | y
> >SND_HDA  | m | m| y
> >SND_HDA_INTEL| m| m| y
> >SND_HDA_HWDEP | y | y | n
> >SND_HDA_RECONFIG | y| y | y
> >SND_HDA_CODEC_REALTEK | m | m | y
> >SND_HDA_GENERIC   | m | m | y
> >SND_HDA_CORE| m | m | y
> >SND_SPI | y | n | absent
>
> Looks ok.
>
> [..]
> >So, it seems that at least the configuration for kernel 5.4.64 should
> >work. However, it does not.
>
> Try this in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa.conf (or some file there):
>
> 
> alias char-major-116 snd
> alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel
> options snd-hda-intel model=auto
> 

I have not tried to edit any alsa configuration files before.
Here is a content of my current /etc/modprobe.d/alsa.conf
-
# Alsa kernel modules' configuration file.

# ALSA portion
alias char-major-116 snd
# OSS/Free portion
alias char-major-14 soundcore

##
## IMPORTANT:
## You need to customise this section for your specific sound card(s)
## and then run `update-modules' command.
## Read alsa-driver's INSTALL file in /usr/share/doc for more info.
##
##  ALSA portion
## alias snd-card-0 snd-interwave
## alias snd-card-1 snd-ens1371
##  OSS/Free portion
## alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0
## alias sound-slot-1 snd-card-1
##

# OSS/Free portion - card #1
alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss
alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss
alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss
alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss
alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss
##  OSS/Free portion - card #2
## alias sound-service-1-0 snd-mixer-oss
## alias sound-service-1-3 snd-pcm-oss
## alias sound-service-1-12 snd-pcm-oss

alias /dev/mixer snd-mixer-oss
alias /dev/dsp snd-pcm-oss
alias /dev/midi snd-seq-oss

# Set this to the correct number of cards.
options snd cards_limit=1
---
So, after changes you suggested, it looks as follows:
--
# Alsa kernel modules' configuration file.

# ALSA portion
alias char-major-116 snd
# OSS/Free portion
alias char-major-14 soundcore

##
## IMPORTANT:
## You need to customise this section for your specific sound card(s)
## and then run `update-modules' command.
## Read alsa-driver's INSTALL file in /usr/share/doc for more info.
##
##  ALSA portion
## alias snd-card-0 snd-interwave
alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel
## alias snd-card-1 snd-ens1371
##  OSS/Free portion
## alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0
## alias sound-slot-1 snd-card-1
##

# OSS/Free portion - card #1
alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss
alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss
alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss
alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss
alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss
##  OSS/Free portion - card #2
## alias sound-service-1-0 snd-mixer-oss
## alias sound-service-1-3 snd-pcm-oss
## alias sound-service-1-12 snd-pcm-oss

alias /dev/mixer snd-mixer-oss
alias /dev/dsp snd-pcm-oss
alias /dev/midi snd-seq-oss

# Set this to the correct number of cards.
options snd-hda-intel model=auto
options snd cards_limit=1
--
Tried to run 'update-modules' command but got
bash: update-modules: command not found
message.

Will reboot now and report the result.



Re: [gentoo-user] No sound. Please, help!

2020-10-18 Thread gevisz
вс, 18 окт. 2020 г. в 02:28, Walter Dnes :
>
> On Sat, Oct 17, 2020 at 10:53:43PM +0300, gevisz wrote
>
> > Thank you for your reply. I have actually used this approach in one of
> > my first attempts.
> > Below is the output of lsmod on the install usb with all modules that
> > I think is irrelevant to sound removed.
>
>   There is no mention of SND_PCI.  When doing "make menuconfig", you
> ***MUST*** first enable...
>
> Device Drivers > Sound card support > Advanced Linux Sound Architecture > PCI 
> sound devices
>
>   Don't select any of the drivers under that option; just enable the
> barebones option.  If you don't enable it, then nothing shows up under
> "HD Audio" where all the codecs you mention are listed.  If you're doing
> it manually, set...
>
> CONFIG_SND_PCI=y
>
>   Either way, rebuild the kernel and try again.  Hopefully, that solves
> the problem.
>
> Walter Dnes 

Thank you for your advice. The SND_PCI option is switched on in my
current generic kernel (gentoo-kernel-5.4.64) as well in the last
tried configuration of gentoo-sources-4.19.86. Moreover, almost every
possible option inside the section to which it points is compiled as a
module. I do not know why snd_pci does not show itself after entering
the lsmod command. Probably, because it is not a module but a section
of the kernel config.



Re: [gentoo-user] tensorflow-2.3.1 failed to compile"

2020-10-17 Thread gevisz
сб, 17 окт. 2020 г. в 20:06, Michael Orlitzky :
>
> On 10/17/20 3:56 PM, gevisz wrote:
> >
> > Well, compilation of tensorflow-2.3.1 failed exactly with the same error. :(
> >
>
> Can you file a bug with the full build log? Someone with a faster
> computer may be able to investigate.

Hm, there is actually a bug with a similar error reported under the
number 747547 on bugs.gentoo.org exactly on the same date when my
first update of tensorflow failed.

Probably, I just should confirm it and make a reference to this thread.



Re: [gentoo-user] tensorflow-2.3.1 failed to compile"

2020-10-17 Thread gevisz
сб, 17 окт. 2020 г. в 20:34, gevisz :
>
> сб, 17 окт. 2020 г. в 15:28, Michael Orlitzky :
> > On 10/17/20 8:10 AM, gevisz wrote:
> > >
> > > Any thoughts on how to proceed with this obstacle other than to
> > > depclean tensorflow and try to reinstall it again?
> > > > The problem is that all versions of tensorflow and almost all of its
> > > dependencies are masked by default. So it is almost impossible to
> > > guess which versions of them should be unmasked for the successful
> > > compilation.
> >
> > My strategy was to run emerge with --autounmask=y and then to add the
> > dependencies to package.accept_keywords one-by-one. If any of the
> > dependencies that it suggests to you are actually incompatible, it's a
> > bug in the tensorflow ebuild (or the ebuild of one of its dependencies).
> >
> > This is what I've currently got, but I originally generated the list for
> > tensorflow-2.2 and then upgraded, so it may not be perfect. (It takes me
> > three days to compile, so I'm not going to experiment!)
> >
> > # tensorflow
> > =dev-python/pandas-1.1.2 ~amd64
> > =dev-python/gast-0.3.3 ~amd64
> > =dev-python/astunparse-1.6.3 ~amd64
> > =net-libs/grpc-1.28.1-r1 ~amd64
> > =sci-libs/tensorflow-2.3.1 ~amd64
> > =net-libs/google-cloud-cpp-0.10.0-r1 ~amd64
> > =sci-visualization/tensorboard-2.3.0 ~amd64
> > =dev-util/bazel-3.2.0 ~amd64
> > =sci-libs/tensorflow-estimator-2.3.0 ~amd64
> > =sys-apps/hwloc-2.1.0 ~amd64
> > =dev-python/grpcio-tools-1.28.1 ~amd64
> > =dev-cpp/abseil-cpp-20200225.2 ~amd64
> > =dev-python/google-auth-oauthlib-0.4.1 ~amd64
> > =dev-python/google-pasta-0.2.0 ~amd64
>
> Thank you. I have depcleaned all masked packages and in line with your
> suggestions started to build a list of package unmask rules for
> emerging tensorflow-2.3.1. However, I do it manually using
> emerge -vp tensorflow
> As the result, so far I've got the following list:
> >=sci-libs/tensorflow-2.2.0-r2::gentoo ~amd64
> >=net-libs/grpc-1.28::gentoo ~amd64
> >=sys-apps/hwloc-2::gentoo ~amd64
> >=dev-python/astunparse-1.6.3::gentoo ~amd64
> >=dev-python/gast-0.3.3::gentoo ~amd64
> >=dev-python/google-pasta-0.1.8::gentoo ~amd64
> >=net-libs/google-cloud-cpp-0.10.0::gentoo ~amd64
> >=sci-visualization/tensorboard-2.3.0::gentoo ~amd64
> >=sci-libs/tensorflow-estimator-2.3.0::gentoo ~amd64
> =dev-util/bazel-3*::gentoo ~amd64
> >=dev-python/grpcio-tools-1.28::gentoo ~amd64
> ~dev-python/grpcio-1.32.0::gentoo ~amd64
> >=dev-python/google-auth-oauthlib-0.4.1::gentoo ~amd64
> =dev-cpp/abseil-cpp-20200225*:=::gentoo ~amd64
> >=dev-libs/protobuf-3.13.0:=::gentoo ~amd64
>
> However, now I have got the following
> WARNING: One or more updates/rebuilds have been skipped due to a
> dependency conflict:
>
> dev-libs/protobuf:0
>
>   (dev-libs/protobuf-3.13.0:0/24::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge)
> USE="zlib -emacs -examples -static-libs -test" ABI_X86="(64) -32
> (-x32)" conflicts with
> ~dev-libs/protobuf-3.12.4 required by
> (dev-python/protobuf-python-3.12.4-r1:0/23::gentoo, ebuild scheduled
> for merge) USE="" ABI_X86="(64)" PYTHON_TARGETS="python3_7 -python3_6
> -python3_8 (-python3_9)"
>
> I am going to solve it by adding the line
> >=dev-python/protobuf-python-3.13.0-r1::gentoo ~amd64
> (and it indeed solves the dependency conflict)
> However, in this case I am quite close to my previous configuration
> when compilation of tensorflow failed.
>
> Now, I am going to compile. On my computer, it will also take a lot of
> time. So, I will report the result till the end of the next week. :)

Well, compilation of tensorflow-2.3.1 failed exactly with the same error. :(

FAILED: Build did NOT complete successfully
 * ERROR: sci-libs/tensorflow-2.3.1::gentoo failed (compile phase):
 *   ebazel failed
 *
 * Call stack:
 * ebuild.sh, line  125:  Called src_compile
 *   environment, line 4177:  Called ebazel 'build'
'//tensorflow:libtensorflow_framework.so'
'//tensorflow:libtensorflow.so'
 *   environment, line 2389:  Called die
 * The specific snippet of code:
 *   "${@}" || die "ebazel failed"
 *
 * If you need support, post the output of `emerge --info
'=sci-libs/tensorflow-2.3.1::gentoo'`,
 * the complete build log and the output of `emerge -pqv
'=sci-libs/tensorflow-2.3.1::gentoo'`.
 * The complete build log is located at
'/var/log/portage/sci-libs:tensorflow-2.3.1:20201017-180429.log'.
 * The ebuild environment file is located at
'/var/tmp/portage/sci-libs/tensorflow-2.3.1/temp/environment'.
 * Working directory:
'/var/tmp/portage/sci-libs/tensorflow-2.3.1/work/tensorflow-2.3.1-python3_7'
 * S: '/var/tmp/portage/sci-libs/tensorflow-2.3.1/work/tensorflow-2.3.1'



Re: [gentoo-user] No sound. Please, help!

2020-10-17 Thread gevisz
сб, 17 окт. 2020 г. в 15:08, Walter Dnes :
>
>   Here's a strategy I occasionally use...
>
> 1) Download a Gentoo "minimal install" and set up a USB key to boot from it.
>
> 2) Boot the PC from the install USB key.
>
> 3) Execute the command...
>
>lsmod | less
>
> 4) Manually scan the output for anything related to sound and write it down.

Thank you for your reply. I have actually used this approach in one of
my first attempts.
Below is the output of lsmod on the install usb with all modules that
I think is irrelevant to sound removed.

Module  Size  Used by
---
snd_hda_codec_realtek77824  1
snd_hda_codec_generic61440  1 snd_hda_codec_realtek
snd_hda_codec_hdmi 49152  1
snd_hda_intel  32768  0
snd_hda_codec  90112  4
snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec_realtek
snd_hda_core   57344  5
snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_codec_realtek
snd_pcm81920  4
snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_core
snd_timer  28672  1 snd_pcm
snd69632  7
snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_timer,snd_pcm
soundcore  16384  1 snd
---

All these modules appear in the lsmod | less in my current Gentoo
install (gentoo-kernel-5.4.64 without changes).
Below I even made a table to be sure.
--
lsmod on install usb | lsmod on 5.4.64
SND_HDA_CODEC_REALTEK | +
SND_HDA_CODEC_GENERIC | +
SND_HDA_CODEC_HDMI  | +
SND_HDA_INTEL  | +
SND_HDA_CODEC| +
SND_HDA_CORE  | +
SND_PCM | +
SND_TIMER  | +
SND | +
SOUNDCORE   | +
-



Re: [gentoo-user] No sound. Please, help!

2020-10-17 Thread gevisz
сб, 17 окт. 2020 г. в 14:57, David Haller :
> On Sat, 17 Oct 2020, gevisz wrote:
> >At different times during the last one and a half years, I tried to
> >make sound work on my new Gentoo install on a computer with Gigabyte
> >GA-MA790FXT-UD5P motherboard and MSI ATI Radeon R4770 graphic card.
>
> Ok, that board should be rather closeish to mine (GA-MA770TA-UD3.
> Might use a different soundchip though, but those should work
> automatically.
>
> [..]
> >lspci | grep "Audio"
> >00:14.2 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] SBx00
> >Azalia (Intel HDA)
> >01:00.1 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RV710/730
> >HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 4000 series]
>
> Simliar here, but it'd be interesting, what actual device is that
> onboard sound, here it's:
>
> $ /sbin/lspci -nn | grep Audio
> 00:14.2 Audio device [0403]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] SBx00 
> Azalia (Intel HDA) [1002:4383]
> [plus the HDMI of the video card]
>
> According to the MoBo manual, it's a Realtek ALC888 codec.

My documentation says that it is Realtek ALC889A.

> >My current kernel configuration is exactly the same as in the
> >gentoo-kernel-5.4.64 package as I have not changed anything there.
>
> This works here:
>
> CONFIG_SND=y
> CONFIG_SND_TIMER=y
> CONFIG_SND_PCM=y
> CONFIG_SND_HWDEP=m
> CONFIG_SND_DRIVERS=y
> CONFIG_SND_PCI=y
> CONFIG_SND_HDA=m
> CONFIG_SND_HDA_INTEL=m
> CONFIG_SND_HDA_HWDEP=y
> CONFIG_SND_HDA_RECONFIG=y
> CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC_REALTEK=m
> CONFIG_SND_HDA_GENERIC=m
> CONFIG_SND_HDA_CORE=m
> CONFIG_SND_SPI=y
>
> Not sure if CONFIG_SND_SPI and CONFIG_SND_HDA_GENERIC are needed, but
> the other ones seem crucial.
>
> Oh, the above is for a 4.14 kernel, but has been the same for a looong
> time now.

Here is the comparative table for your kernel parameters vs those of
gentoo-kernel 5.4.64 and my last tried configuration in
gentoo-sources-4.19.86:
-
CONFIG | 4.14 | 5.4.64 | 4.19.86
SND  | y  | m| y
SND_TIMER   | y  | m| y
SND_PCM  | y  | m| y
SND_HWDEP | m | m| y
SND_DRIVERS   | y  | y | y
SND_PCI| y  | y | y
SND_HDA  | m | m| y
SND_HDA_INTEL| m| m| y
SND_HDA_HWDEP | y | y | n
SND_HDA_RECONFIG | y| y | y
SND_HDA_CODEC_REALTEK | m | m | y
SND_HDA_GENERIC   | m | m | y
SND_HDA_CORE| m | m | y
SND_SPI | y | n | absent

The last option is absent from my config file of gentoo-source-4.19.86.
However, it seems that in gentoo-kernel-5.4-64 it also means nothing
because it leads to an empty section even if it is chosen.

So, it seems that at least the configuration for kernel 5.4.64 should
work. However, it does not.



Re: [gentoo-user] tensorflow-2.3.1 failed to compile"

2020-10-17 Thread gevisz
сб, 17 окт. 2020 г. в 15:28, Michael Orlitzky :
> On 10/17/20 8:10 AM, gevisz wrote:
> >
> > Any thoughts on how to proceed with this obstacle other than to
> > depclean tensorflow and try to reinstall it again?
> > > The problem is that all versions of tensorflow and almost all of its
> > dependencies are masked by default. So it is almost impossible to
> > guess which versions of them should be unmasked for the successful
> > compilation.
>
> My strategy was to run emerge with --autounmask=y and then to add the
> dependencies to package.accept_keywords one-by-one. If any of the
> dependencies that it suggests to you are actually incompatible, it's a
> bug in the tensorflow ebuild (or the ebuild of one of its dependencies).
>
> This is what I've currently got, but I originally generated the list for
> tensorflow-2.2 and then upgraded, so it may not be perfect. (It takes me
> three days to compile, so I'm not going to experiment!)
>
> # tensorflow
> =dev-python/pandas-1.1.2 ~amd64
> =dev-python/gast-0.3.3 ~amd64
> =dev-python/astunparse-1.6.3 ~amd64
> =net-libs/grpc-1.28.1-r1 ~amd64
> =sci-libs/tensorflow-2.3.1 ~amd64
> =net-libs/google-cloud-cpp-0.10.0-r1 ~amd64
> =sci-visualization/tensorboard-2.3.0 ~amd64
> =dev-util/bazel-3.2.0 ~amd64
> =sci-libs/tensorflow-estimator-2.3.0 ~amd64
> =sys-apps/hwloc-2.1.0 ~amd64
> =dev-python/grpcio-tools-1.28.1 ~amd64
> =dev-cpp/abseil-cpp-20200225.2 ~amd64
> =dev-python/google-auth-oauthlib-0.4.1 ~amd64
> =dev-python/google-pasta-0.2.0 ~amd64

Thank you. I have depcleaned all masked packages and in line with your
suggestions started to build a list of package unmask rules for
emerging tensorflow-2.3.1. However, I do it manually using
emerge -vp tensorflow
As the result, so far I've got the following list:
>=sci-libs/tensorflow-2.2.0-r2::gentoo ~amd64
>=net-libs/grpc-1.28::gentoo ~amd64
>=sys-apps/hwloc-2::gentoo ~amd64
>=dev-python/astunparse-1.6.3::gentoo ~amd64
>=dev-python/gast-0.3.3::gentoo ~amd64
>=dev-python/google-pasta-0.1.8::gentoo ~amd64
>=net-libs/google-cloud-cpp-0.10.0::gentoo ~amd64
>=sci-visualization/tensorboard-2.3.0::gentoo ~amd64
>=sci-libs/tensorflow-estimator-2.3.0::gentoo ~amd64
=dev-util/bazel-3*::gentoo ~amd64
>=dev-python/grpcio-tools-1.28::gentoo ~amd64
~dev-python/grpcio-1.32.0::gentoo ~amd64
>=dev-python/google-auth-oauthlib-0.4.1::gentoo ~amd64
=dev-cpp/abseil-cpp-20200225*:=::gentoo ~amd64
>=dev-libs/protobuf-3.13.0:=::gentoo ~amd64

However, now I have got the following
WARNING: One or more updates/rebuilds have been skipped due to a
dependency conflict:

dev-libs/protobuf:0

  (dev-libs/protobuf-3.13.0:0/24::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge)
USE="zlib -emacs -examples -static-libs -test" ABI_X86="(64) -32
(-x32)" conflicts with
~dev-libs/protobuf-3.12.4 required by
(dev-python/protobuf-python-3.12.4-r1:0/23::gentoo, ebuild scheduled
for merge) USE="" ABI_X86="(64)" PYTHON_TARGETS="python3_7 -python3_6
-python3_8 (-python3_9)"

I am going to solve it by adding the line
>=dev-python/protobuf-python-3.13.0-r1::gentoo ~amd64
(and it indeed solves the dependency conflict)
However, in this case I am quite close to my previous configuration
when compilation of tensorflow failed.

Now, I am going to compile. On my computer, it will also take a lot of
time. So, I will report the result till the end of the next week. :)



[gentoo-user] No sound. Please, help!

2020-10-17 Thread gevisz
At different times during the last one and a half years, I tried to
make sound work on my new Gentoo install on a computer with Gigabyte
GA-MA790FXT-UD5P motherboard and MSI ATI Radeon R4770 graphic card.

Previously, I successfully solved the sound problems in Gentoo either
with alsamixer or by compiling the right driver into the kernel but on
this computer these two approaches failed so far.

In my penultimate attempt to solve this problem, I spent no less than
one week trying to compile the right driver into the then 4th Linux
kernel with no result. At the beginning, I managed to get a sound from
this computer after some kernel configurations but they turned out to
be unstable in the sense that later the same kernel configurations
resulted in no sound. (I have used git to control all my experiments
with the kernel configurations, so I am quite sure that configurations
of the kernel for which I sometimes got the sound and later did not
was indeed the same.) My first explanation to this phenomena was that
after recompiling a kernel I also have to recompile xorg-server and
some sound related packages. So I have tried this with no result
again. And, of course, I have always used alsamixer to make sure that
no sound channels are muted.

Finally, I decided that I just cannot find the right combination of
sound drivers and gave up because at that time I could not spend on
this more than one week.

But last month I found out about the gentoo-kernel package and decided
to try once more. I was almost sure that, after installing this
package, I will finally get the sound. So, I have installed the
latest, 5.4.64, version of this package. As a result, the computer
rebooted in the new Linux kernel and everything worked and still works
like a charm except for the sound as it is still absent. :(

So I definitely (and desperately) need your help and promise to follow
all your suggestions. (But, please, take into account that I can
compile on this computer only during weekends.)

As the following command shows

lspci | grep "Audio"
00:14.2 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] SBx00
Azalia (Intel HDA)
01:00.1 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RV710/730
HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 4000 series]

This computer has two sound devices. The first of them, SBx00 Azalia,
is probably built into the motherboard, and it is where I am trying to
get a sound from. The second one is probably built into the Radeon
graphic card and I am not going to use it at all unless it can output
the sound through the motherboard audio jacks.

My current kernel configuration is exactly the same as in the
gentoo-kernel-5.4.64 package as I have not changed anything there.

And finally: installed on the same computer legacy operating system
never had any sound problems.



[gentoo-user] tensorflow-2.3.1 failed to compile"

2020-10-17 Thread gevisz
A week ago, on October 10,  2020, tensorflow-2.3.1 gracefully failed
to compile with the following
ERROR: sci-libs/tensorflow-2.3.1::gentoo failed (compile phase)
and a few weeks before tensorflow-2.2.0-r2 caused a dependency
conflict during a regular system update, so I updated my system
excluding tensorflow and on October 10 tried, after another update
excluding tensorflow, tried to update it to the last available
version. Before doing it, I also unmasked some of its most recent
dependencies (I think it was protobuf-3.13.0) to avoid dependency
conflict.

Any thoughts on how to proceed with this obstacle other than to
depclean tensorflow and try to reinstall it again?

The problem is that all versions of tensorflow and almost all of its
dependencies are masked by default. So it is almost impossible to
guess which versions of them should be unmasked for the successful
compilation.

Is there any hope that in the future at least some version of
tensorflow will be considered "stable" in Gentoo?



Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg does not start after a recent system update.

2020-09-20 Thread gevisz
вс, 20 сент. 2020 г. в 15:37, Ashley Dixon :
>
> On Sun, Sep 20, 2020 at 02:23:58PM +0300, gevisz wrote:
> > вс, 20 сент. 2020 г. в 14:09, gevisz :
> > > When installing my new Gentoo installation, I tried to make it as
> > > close to the old one as it was possible, and it is strange to me that
> > > the new one does not have a dbus startup in its runlevels. (As far as
> > > I remember, in both cases I needed dbus to switch keyboard layout in
> > > Awesome, and it did on both systems before the last update.)
> > >
> > > Probably, my first try should be to add dbus to the default runlevel
> > > on my new Gentoo installation.
> >
> > Yes, after adding dbus to default runlevel, the xorg-server started.
>
> It would be very peculiar if D-Bus was removed from your  runlevels;  it's  
> more
> probable that a service implicitly starting D-Bus as a dependency via `need` 
> was
> changed during your system upgrade.  Regardless, since  the  service  was  
> never
> starting, the socket file was never being created.  X should  probably  try  
> and
> start the D-Bus service when it initialises, either as  a  part  of  the  
> Gentoo
> patchset, or as a bug to upstream.  The BlueZ bluetooth service does  this,  
> for
> example [1]:
>
> depend() {
> after coldplug
> need dbus localmount hostname
> }
>
> Anyway, glad to see it fixed.
>
> [1] 
> https://gitweb.gentoo.org/repo/gentoo.git/tree/net-wireless/bluez/files/bluetooth-init.d-r4
>

My guess was that it is /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.d/80-dbus that started
dbus on the problem computer but for some reason stopped to do it
after the system update, but of course it may be because of changed
dependency of the OpenRC dependencies.

Anyway, thank you once more for your help!



Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg does not start after a recent system update.

2020-09-20 Thread gevisz
вс, 20 сент. 2020 г. в 14:09, gevisz :
>
> вс, 20 сент. 2020 г. в 12:20, Ashley Dixon :
> >
> > On Sun, Sep 20, 2020 at 11:59:10AM +0300, gevisz wrote:
> > > Thank you for your reply. Yes, I tried it after a reboot.
> > > As to your first question, I will look into logs and report it a bit 
> > > later.
> >
> > 1) Could you confirm that `/run/dbus/system_bus_socket` doesn't exist?
>
> Thank you for your reply and the tips.
>
> /run/dbus directory does not exist on the computer where xorg-server
> does not start, which probably means that it does not run. (At the
> same time,  /run/dbus/system_bus_socket does exit on another my Gentoo
> box that I last updated 1.5 years ago and that has no problem starting
> xorg-server. It still has default/linux/amd64/17.0/desktop (stable)
> profile.)
>
> Also, I cannot find a link to dbus from any of my /etc/runlevels on my
> problem computer though such a link exists from
> /etc/runlevels/default/dbus to /etc/init.d/dbus on my old Gentoo
> installation.
>
> On both my Gentoo installations exist /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.d/80-dbus
> file that promises to launch a session dbus instance.
>
> When installing my new Gentoo installation, I tried to make it as
> close to the old one as it was possible, and it is strange to me that
> the new one does not have a dbus startup in its runlevels. (As far as
> I remember, in both cases I needed dbus to switch keyboard layout in
> Awesome, and it did on both systems before the last update.)
>
> Probably, my first try should be to add dbus to the default runlevel
> on my new Gentoo installation.

Yes, after adding dbus to default runlevel, the xorg-server started.

Thank you.

Still do not understand how it worked without it before.

Will look into logs and post to this thread any other problems
xorg-server reports, if any, later.

> > 2) Please post the full logs of the X server, usually at 
> > `/var/log/Xorg.0.log`.
> > 3) The output of `emerge --info x11-base/xorg-server` would be nice.
>
> Will come soon. :)
>
> > I ask for (3), because if you have the `systemd` OR `elogind` flags set on  
> > your
> > X server package, `--enable-systemd-login`  will  be  passed  to  the  
> > configure
> > script, which is known to cause this problem [1].
>
> Thank you for the tip and the links.
>
> On both my systems (the old and the new one) I do have elogind
> installed as it is needed for Skype.
> On the old system, xorg-server still does not have an elogind use
> flag, while the new one has it and it is set on.
>
> >  From the relevant ebuild [2]:
> >
> > if use systemd || use elogind; then
> > XORG_CONFIGURE_OPTIONS+=(
> > "--enable-systemd-logind"
> > "--disable-install-setuid"
> > "$(use_enable suid suid-wrapper)"
> > )
> > else
> > XORG_CONFIGURE_OPTIONS+=(
> > "--disable-systemd-logind"
> > "--disable-suid-wrapper"
> > "$(use_enable suid install-setuid)"
> > )
> > fi
> >
> > [1] https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/-/issues/554
> > [2] 
> > https://gitweb.gentoo.org/repo/gentoo.git/tree/x11-base/xorg-server/xorg-server-1.20.9.ebuild#n179
> >
> > --
> >
> > Ashley Dixon
> > suugaku.co.uk
> >
> > 2A9A 4117
> > DA96 D18A
> > 8A7B B0D2
> > A30E BF25
> > F290 A8AA
> >



Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg does not start after a recent system update.

2020-09-20 Thread gevisz
вс, 20 сент. 2020 г. в 12:20, Ashley Dixon :
>
> On Sun, Sep 20, 2020 at 11:59:10AM +0300, gevisz wrote:
> > Thank you for your reply. Yes, I tried it after a reboot.
> > As to your first question, I will look into logs and report it a bit later.
>
> 1) Could you confirm that `/run/dbus/system_bus_socket` doesn't exist?

Thank you for your reply and the tips.

/run/dbus directory does not exist on the computer where xorg-server
does not start, which probably means that it does not run. (At the
same time,  /run/dbus/system_bus_socket does exit on another my Gentoo
box that I last updated 1.5 years ago and that has no problem starting
xorg-server. It still has default/linux/amd64/17.0/desktop (stable)
profile.)

Also, I cannot find a link to dbus from any of my /etc/runlevels on my
problem computer though such a link exists from
/etc/runlevels/default/dbus to /etc/init.d/dbus on my old Gentoo
installation.

On both my Gentoo installations exist /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.d/80-dbus
file that promises to launch a session dbus instance.

When installing my new Gentoo installation, I tried to make it as
close to the old one as it was possible, and it is strange to me that
the new one does not have a dbus startup in its runlevels. (As far as
I remember, in both cases I needed dbus to switch keyboard layout in
Awesome, and it did on both systems before the last update.)

Probably, my first try should be to add dbus to the default runlevel
on my new Gentoo installation.

> 2) Please post the full logs of the X server, usually at 
> `/var/log/Xorg.0.log`.
> 3) The output of `emerge --info x11-base/xorg-server` would be nice.

Will come soon. :)

> I ask for (3), because if you have the `systemd` OR `elogind` flags set on  
> your
> X server package, `--enable-systemd-login`  will  be  passed  to  the  
> configure
> script, which is known to cause this problem [1].

Thank you for the tip and the links.

On both my systems (the old and the new one) I do have elogind
installed as it is needed for Skype.
On the old system, xorg-server still does not have an elogind use
flag, while the new one has it and it is set on.

>  From the relevant ebuild [2]:
>
> if use systemd || use elogind; then
> XORG_CONFIGURE_OPTIONS+=(
> "--enable-systemd-logind"
> "--disable-install-setuid"
> "$(use_enable suid suid-wrapper)"
> )
> else
> XORG_CONFIGURE_OPTIONS+=(
> "--disable-systemd-logind"
> "--disable-suid-wrapper"
> "$(use_enable suid install-setuid)"
> )
> fi
>
> [1] https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/-/issues/554
> [2] 
> https://gitweb.gentoo.org/repo/gentoo.git/tree/x11-base/xorg-server/xorg-server-1.20.9.ebuild#n179
>
> --
>
> Ashley Dixon
> suugaku.co.uk
>
> 2A9A 4117
> DA96 D18A
> 8A7B B0D2
> A30E BF25
> F290 A8AA
>



Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg does not start after a recent system update.

2020-09-20 Thread gevisz
вс, 20 сент. 2020 г. в 11:27, Ashley Dixon :
>
> On Sun, Sep 20, 2020 at 11:00:20AM +0300, gevisz wrote:
> > After a system update on 18.09.2020 of my Gentoo system, the
> > xorg-server failed to start with the following (last) error message:
> > dbus-core: error connecting to system bus:
> > org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.FileNotFound (Failed to connect to socket
> > /run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory)
>
> Was the D-Bus package (sys-apps/dbus) touched during your system update?  If 
> so,
> did you reboot your system after the upgrade?  This  is  unlikely  to  fix  
> your
> issue, although there have been some reports (years ago)  of  the  D-Bus  
> socket
> file not being recreated until rebooting.

Thank you for your reply. Yes, I tried it after a reboot.

As to your first question, I will look into logs and report it a bit later.



[gentoo-user] Xorg does not start after a recent system update.

2020-09-20 Thread gevisz
After a system update on 18.09.2020 of my Gentoo system, the
xorg-server failed to start with the following (last) error message:
dbus-core: error connecting to system bus:
org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.FileNotFound (Failed to connect to socket
/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory)

Last time I updated my system on 8.08.2020 and everything worked fine.

I use startx to start xorg-server and I do not use systemd.

I still use the 4.19.86 kernel which is already out of Gentoo tree
without masking the newer ones. May it be the reason?



Re: [gentoo-user] No keyserver available

2020-04-10 Thread gevisz
пт, 10 апр. 2020 г. в 00:55, Michael :
>
> On Tuesday, 7 April 2020 14:36:04 BST gevisz wrote:
> > I have a long standing "gpg can't check signature: No public key"
> > error while running # emerge-webrsync
> > It appears because the webrsync-gpg feature has been set in my
> > make.conf however I do not want to switch it off.
> > The app-crypt/gentoo-keys is installed, so it is not the reason for above
> > error. I have just tried to download gentoo pgp keys manually with the
> > command gpg --keyserver hkps://keys.gentoo.org --recv-keys
> > 13EBBDBEDE7A12775DFDB1BABB572E0E2D182910
> > and got the following error message:
> > gpg: keyserver receive failed: No keyserver available
> > Can anybody explain me how to fix this?
>
> If you can't connect then you may have some network configuration issue, or
> potentially the keyserver is busy at this moment.  However, this would only be
> a temporary problem and you report you've been getting this regularly.
>
> Do you see if port 443 is open from where you are?
>
> $ nc -v -z keys.gentoo.org 443
> DNS fwd/rev mismatch: keys.geodns-europe.gentoo.org != trogan.gentoo.org
> keys.geodns-europe.gentoo.org [89.238.71.4] 443 (https) open

Thank you for your reply. The command above returns exactly the same.
And no, this problem is not temporal.

> Alternatively, do you also have a problem using rsync?

After some changes in configulation files, I can currently sync using
# emaint sync -A
However,
# gpg --keyserver hkps://keys.gentoo.org --recv-keys 13EB...
command returns the same error as before.



[gentoo-user] Re: Unable to plot in Julia REPL.

2020-04-09 Thread gevisz
чт, 9 апр. 2020 г. в 15:00, gevisz :
>
> чт, 9 апр. 2020 г. в 14:58, gevisz :
> >
> > After installing julia-1.3.0, I have tried to plot(rand(100)) in Julia
> > REPL as described in a tutorial but got an error message which basicly
> > says that julia cannot find libQtGui.so.4 shared library.
> > I googled the error message and found it on Julia discourse forum:
> > https://discourse.julialang.org/t/unable-to-plot-in-repl/13535
> > The author of the original question got exactly the same error message
> > while trying to run the same command in Julia REPL installed on
> > OpenSuse.
> The solution for him was to install libqt4 package. Can anybody say me which
> package I should emerge in Gentoo to get the same result?

The same is with julia-1.4.0-r1.

And I forgot to mention that in spite I am trying to build the GR
package inside Julia REPL, it actually downloads it.
However, I mentioned it on the discourse at the link provided above.



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: sci-libs/spqr-1.2.3-r1 failed to emerge

2020-04-09 Thread gevisz
чт, 9 апр. 2020 г. в 10:32, Nuno Silva :
>
> On 2020-04-09, gevisz wrote:
>
> > ср, 8 апр. 2020 г. в 19:31, gevisz :
> >>
> >> ср, 8 апр. 2020 г. в 18:13, Michael Orlitzky :
> >> >
> >> > The other thing you should be aware of is that dev-lang/julia is, from a
> >> > software engineering point of view, an absolute trainwreck (upstream,
> >> > not the Gentoo maintainer's fault). Your experience so far is going to
> >> > be typical, I fear.
> >>
> >> After I added all these files to the
> >> /etc/portage/package.accept_keywords/julia file,
> >> julia finally emerged. Thank you. However, I am affraid what will be
> >> when I try to update my Gentoo system in a month or so.
> >
> > A small addition: I've just noticed that I've managed to emerge only
> > julia-1.3.0;
> > julia-1.4.0-r1 still fails to be emerged (at a compile phase).
>
> What errors?
>
> There is bug 716434[1] where julia fails because it tries to download
> more tarballs (yes, during compilation). An ebuild change was made to
> address this, so it might be worth syncing the tree and trying to emerge
> again.
>
> [1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=716434

After updating the portgage repository, julia-1.4.0-r1 was
successfully compiled. Thank you.



[gentoo-user] Re: Unable to plot in Julia REPL.

2020-04-09 Thread gevisz
чт, 9 апр. 2020 г. в 14:58, gevisz :
>
> After installing julia-1.3.0, I have tried to plot(rand(100)) in Julia
> REPL as described in a tutorial but got an error message which basicly
> says that julia cannot find libQtGui.so.4 shared library.
> I googled the error message and found it on Julia discourse forum:
> https://discourse.julialang.org/t/unable-to-plot-in-repl/13535
> The author of the original question got exactly the same error message
> while trying to run the same command in Julia REPL installed on
> OpenSuse.
The solution for him was to install libqt4 package. Can anybody say me which
package I should emerge in Gentoo to get the same result?



[gentoo-user] Unable to plot in Julia REPL.

2020-04-09 Thread gevisz
After installing julia-1.3.0, I have tried to plot(rand(100)) in Julia
REPL as described in a tutorial but got an error message which basicly
says that julia cannot find libQtGui.so.4 shared library.
I googled the error message and found it on Julia discourse forum:
https://discourse.julialang.org/t/unable-to-plot-in-repl/13535
The author of the original question got exactly the same error message
while trying to run the same command in Julia REPL installed on
OpenSuse.
The solution for him was to libqt4 package. Can anybody say me which
package I should emerge in Gentoo to get the same result?



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: sci-libs/spqr-1.2.3-r1 failed to emerge

2020-04-09 Thread gevisz
чт, 9 апр. 2020 г. в 10:32, Nuno Silva :
>
> On 2020-04-09, gevisz wrote:
>
> > ср, 8 апр. 2020 г. в 19:31, gevisz :
> >>
> >> ср, 8 апр. 2020 г. в 18:13, Michael Orlitzky :
> >> >
> >> > The other thing you should be aware of is that dev-lang/julia is, from a
> >> > software engineering point of view, an absolute trainwreck (upstream,
> >> > not the Gentoo maintainer's fault). Your experience so far is going to
> >> > be typical, I fear.
> >>
> >> After I added all these files to the
> >> /etc/portage/package.accept_keywords/julia file,
> >> julia finally emerged. Thank you. However, I am affraid what will be
> >> when I try to update my Gentoo system in a month or so.
> >
> > A small addition: I've just noticed that I've managed to emerge only
> > julia-1.3.0;
> > julia-1.4.0-r1 still fails to be emerged (at a compile phase).
>
> What errors?
>
> There is bug 716434[1] where julia fails because it tries to download
> more tarballs (yes, during compilation). An ebuild change was made to
> address this, so it might be worth syncing the tree and trying to emerge
> again.

Thank you. I will try.

> [1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=716434



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: sci-libs/spqr-1.2.3-r1 failed to emerge

2020-04-09 Thread gevisz
ср, 8 апр. 2020 г. в 19:31, gevisz :
>
> ср, 8 апр. 2020 г. в 18:13, Michael Orlitzky :
> >
> > On 4/8/20 11:01 AM, gevisz wrote:
> > >
> > > Unfortunately, it did not helped.
> > >
> >
> > Before you do anything else, keyword all of the latest suitesparse
> > components:
> >
> >   ~sci-libs/suitesparseconfig-5.4.0
> >   ~sci-libs/amd-2.4.6
> >   ~sci-libs/btf-1.2.6
> >   ~sci-libs/camd-2.4.6
> >   ~sci-libs/ccolamd-2.9.6
> >   ~sci-libs/cholmod-3.0.13
> >   ~sci-libs/colamd-2.9.6
> >   ~sci-libs/cxsparse-3.2.0
> >   ~sci-libs/klu-1.3.9
> >   ~sci-libs/ldl-2.2.6
> >   ~sci-libs/spqr-2.0.9
> >   ~sci-libs/umfpack-5.7.9
> >
> > Those aren't the latest upstream releases, but at least they work, which
> > is more than I can say for the stable versions.
> >
> > The other thing you should be aware of is that dev-lang/julia is, from a
> > software engineering point of view, an absolute trainwreck (upstream,
> > not the Gentoo maintainer's fault). Your experience so far is going to
> > be typical, I fear.
>
> After I added all these files to the
> /etc/portage/package.accept_keywords/julia file,
> julia finally emerged. Thank you. However, I am affraid what will be
> when I try to update my Gentoo system in a month or so.

A small addition: I've just noticed that I've managed to emerge only
julia-1.3.0;
julia-1.4.0-r1 still fails to be emerged (at a compile phase).



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: sci-libs/spqr-1.2.3-r1 failed to emerge

2020-04-08 Thread gevisz
ср, 8 апр. 2020 г. в 18:13, Michael Orlitzky :
>
> On 4/8/20 11:01 AM, gevisz wrote:
> >
> > Unfortunately, it did not helped.
> >
>
> Before you do anything else, keyword all of the latest suitesparse
> components:
>
>   ~sci-libs/suitesparseconfig-5.4.0
>   ~sci-libs/amd-2.4.6
>   ~sci-libs/btf-1.2.6
>   ~sci-libs/camd-2.4.6
>   ~sci-libs/ccolamd-2.9.6
>   ~sci-libs/cholmod-3.0.13
>   ~sci-libs/colamd-2.9.6
>   ~sci-libs/cxsparse-3.2.0
>   ~sci-libs/klu-1.3.9
>   ~sci-libs/ldl-2.2.6
>   ~sci-libs/spqr-2.0.9
>   ~sci-libs/umfpack-5.7.9
>
> Those aren't the latest upstream releases, but at least they work, which
> is more than I can say for the stable versions.
>
> The other thing you should be aware of is that dev-lang/julia is, from a
> software engineering point of view, an absolute trainwreck (upstream,
> not the Gentoo maintainer's fault). Your experience so far is going to
> be typical, I fear.

After I added all these files to the
/etc/portage/package.accept_keywords/julia file,
julia finally emerged. Thank you. However, I am affraid what will be
when I try to
update my Gentoo system in a month or so.



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: sci-libs/spqr-1.2.3-r1 failed to emerge

2020-04-08 Thread gevisz
ср, 8 апр. 2020 г. в 16:00, Neil Bothwick :
>
> On Wed, 8 Apr 2020 17:45:25 +0300, gevisz wrote:
> > Anyway, it did not helped to emerge julia because of the following:
> >
> > # emerge julia
> >
> > These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
> >
> > Calculating dependencies... done!
> > [ebuild UD ] sci-libs/cholmod-2.1.2 [3.0.13] USE="-lapack* -metis%
> > -minimal%"
> > [ebuild  N ] sci-libs/umfpack-5.6.2  USE="cholmod -doc -static-libs"
> > [ebuild  N~] dev-lang/julia-1.4.0-r1
> >
> > !!! Multiple package instances within a single package slot have been
> > pulled !!! into the dependency graph, resulting in a slot conflict:
> >
> > sci-libs/cholmod:0
> >
> >   (sci-libs/cholmod-3.0.13:0/0::gentoo, installed) USE="lapack
> > matrixops modify partition -cuda -doc -static-libs" ABI_X86="(64)"
> > pulled in by
> > >=sci-libs/cholmod-2[lapack,partition?] required by
> > (sci-libs/spqr-2.0.9:0/0::gentoo, installed) USE="-doc -partition
> > -static-libs -tbb" ABI_X86="(64)"
> > ^^
>
> Try setting USE=partition for sqpr

Unfortunately, it did not helped.



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: sci-libs/spqr-1.2.3-r1 failed to emerge

2020-04-08 Thread gevisz
ср, 8 апр. 2020 г. в 17:19, gevisz :
>
> ср, 8 апр. 2020 г. в 13:29, Nuno Silva :
> >
> > On 2020-04-08, gevisz wrote:
> >
> > > I've tried to install julia-1.4.0 but one of its dependencies, namely,
> > > sci-libs/spqr-1.2.3-r1 failed to emerge with the following error message:
> > >
> > > * Failed Running automake !
> > >  *
> > >  * Include in your bugreport the contents of:
> > >  *
> > >  *   /var/tmp/portage/sci-libs/spqr-1.2.3-r1/temp/automake.out
> > [...]
> > > I tried to look into the automake.out file mentioned above but it even
> > > does not exists (or empty).
> >
> >
> >
> > Could this be bug 586582? (But that one has an automake.out?)
> >
> > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=586582
> >
> > And see also: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=627094
> >
> > From a quick read, it looks like there is no fix for 1.2.3-r1, but that
> > the plan is to drop 1.2.3-r1 if 2.0.9 works.
> >
> Yes, unmasking
> =sci-libs/spqr-2.0.9
> which lead to unmasking
> =sci-libs/cholmod-3.0.13
> =sci-libs/amd-2.4.6
> =sci-libs/colamd-2.9.6
> =sci-libs/camd-2.4.6
> =sci-libs/ccolamd-2.9.6
> =sci-libs/suitesparseconfig-5.4.0
> =sci-libs/metis-5.1.0-r2
> allowed emerging spqr-2.0.9.

Anyway, it did not helped to emerge julia because of the following:

# emerge julia

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild UD ] sci-libs/cholmod-2.1.2 [3.0.13] USE="-lapack* -metis%
-minimal%"
[ebuild  N ] sci-libs/umfpack-5.6.2  USE="cholmod -doc -static-libs"
[ebuild  N~] dev-lang/julia-1.4.0-r1

!!! Multiple package instances within a single package slot have been pulled
!!! into the dependency graph, resulting in a slot conflict:

sci-libs/cholmod:0

  (sci-libs/cholmod-3.0.13:0/0::gentoo, installed) USE="lapack
matrixops modify partition -cuda -doc -static-libs" ABI_X86="(64)"
pulled in by
>=sci-libs/cholmod-2[lapack,partition?] required by
(sci-libs/spqr-2.0.9:0/0::gentoo, installed) USE="-doc -partition
-static-libs -tbb" ABI_X86="(64)"
^^

  (sci-libs/cholmod-2.1.2:0/0::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge)
USE="(-cuda) -doc -lapack -metis -minimal -static-libs" ABI_X86="(64)"
pulled in by
>=sci-libs/cholmod-2[-minimal] required by
(sci-libs/umfpack-5.6.2:0/0::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge)
USE="cholmod -doc -static-libs" ABI_X86="(64)"
 


It may be possible to solve this problem by using package.mask to
prevent one of those packages from being selected. However, it is also
possible that conflicting dependencies exist such that they are
impossible to satisfy simultaneously.  If such a conflict exists in
the dependencies of two different packages, then those packages can
not be installed simultaneously. You may want to try a larger value of
the --backtrack option, such as --backtrack=30, in order to see if
that will solve this conflict automatically.

For more information, see MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge man
page or refer to the Gentoo Handbook.



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: sci-libs/spqr-1.2.3-r1 failed to emerge

2020-04-08 Thread gevisz
ср, 8 апр. 2020 г. в 13:29, Nuno Silva :
>
> On 2020-04-08, gevisz wrote:
>
> > I've tried to install julia-1.4.0 but one of its dependencies, namely,
> > sci-libs/spqr-1.2.3-r1 failed to emerge with the following error message:
> >
> > * Failed Running automake !
> >  *
> >  * Include in your bugreport the contents of:
> >  *
> >  *   /var/tmp/portage/sci-libs/spqr-1.2.3-r1/temp/automake.out
> [...]
> > I tried to look into the automake.out file mentioned above but it even
> > does not exists (or empty).
>
>
>
> Could this be bug 586582? (But that one has an automake.out?)
>
> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=586582
>
> And see also: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=627094
>
> From a quick read, it looks like there is no fix for 1.2.3-r1, but that
> the plan is to drop 1.2.3-r1 if 2.0.9 works.
>
Yes, unmasking
=sci-libs/spqr-2.0.9
which lead to unmasking
=sci-libs/cholmod-3.0.13
=sci-libs/amd-2.4.6
=sci-libs/colamd-2.9.6
=sci-libs/camd-2.4.6
=sci-libs/ccolamd-2.9.6
=sci-libs/suitesparseconfig-5.4.0
=sci-libs/metis-5.1.0-r2
allowed emerging spqr-2.0.9.



[gentoo-user] sci-libs/spqr-1.2.3-r1 failed to emerge

2020-04-08 Thread gevisz
I've tried to install julia-1.4.0 but one of its dependencies, namely,
sci-libs/spqr-1.2.3-r1 failed to emerge with the following error message:

* Failed Running automake !
 *
 * Include in your bugreport the contents of:
 *
 *   /var/tmp/portage/sci-libs/spqr-1.2.3-r1/temp/automake.out

 * ERROR: sci-libs/spqr-1.2.3-r1::gentoo failed (prepare phase):
 *   Failed Running automake !
 *
 * Call stack:
 * ebuild.sh, line  125:  Called src_prepare
 *   environment, line 2324:  Called autotools-utils_src_prepare
 *   environment, line  512:  Called eautoreconf
 *   environment, line  830:  Called eautomake
 *   environment, line  784:  Called autotools_run_tool 'automake'
'--add-missing' '--copy' '--foreign' '--force-missing'
 *   environment, line  648:  Called die
 * The specific snippet of code:
 *   die "Failed Running $1 !";
 *
 * If you need support, post the output of `emerge --info
'=sci-libs/spqr-1.2.3-r1::gentoo'`,
 * the complete build log and the output of `emerge -pqv
'=sci-libs/spqr-1.2.3-r1::gentoo'`.
 * The complete build log is located at
'/var/log/portage/sci-libs:spqr-1.2.3-r1:20200408-071552.log'.
 * The ebuild environment file is located at
'/var/tmp/portage/sci-libs/spqr-1.2.3-r1/temp/environment'.
 * Working directory: '/var/tmp/portage/sci-libs/spqr-1.2.3-r1/work/SPQR'
 * S: '/var/tmp/portage/sci-libs/spqr-1.2.3-r1/work/SPQR'

>>> Failed to emerge sci-libs/spqr-1.2.3-r1, Log file:  
>>> '/var/log/portage/sci-libs:spqr-1.2.3-r1:20200408-071552.log'

I tried to look into the automake.out file mentioned above but it even
does not exists (or empty).

The log file is attached. The output of emerge --info
'=sci-libs/spqr-1.2.3-r1::gentoo' is as follows:
# emerge --info '=sci-libs/spqr-1.2.3-r1::gentoo'
Portage 2.3.89 (python 3.6.10-final-0,
default/linux/amd64/17.1/desktop, gcc-9.2.0, glibc-2.29-r7,
4.19.86-gentoo+ x86_64)
=
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=
System uname: 
Linux-4.19.86-gentoo+-x86_64-AMD_Phenom-tm-_II_X4_945_Processor-with-gentoo-2.6
KiB Mem:20554020 total,  12064808 free
KiB Swap:   11718652 total,  11718652 free
Timestamp of repository gentoo: Tue, 07 Apr 2020 00:45:01 +
sh bash 4.4_p23-r1
ld GNU ld (Gentoo 2.32 p2) 2.32.0
app-shells/bash:  4.4_p23-r1::gentoo
dev-lang/perl:5.30.1::gentoo
dev-lang/python:  2.7.17-r2::gentoo, 3.6.10-r1::gentoo, 3.7.7-r1::gentoo
dev-util/cmake:   3.16.5::gentoo
dev-util/pkgconfig:   0.29.2::gentoo
sys-apps/baselayout:  2.6-r1::gentoo
sys-apps/openrc:  0.42.1::gentoo
sys-apps/sandbox: 2.13::gentoo
sys-devel/autoconf:   2.13-r1::gentoo, 2.69-r4::gentoo
sys-devel/automake:   1.16.1-r1::gentoo
sys-devel/binutils:   2.32-r1::gentoo, 2.33.1-r1::gentoo
sys-devel/gcc:9.2.0-r2::gentoo
sys-devel/gcc-config: 2.2.1::gentoo
sys-devel/libtool:2.4.6-r6::gentoo
sys-devel/make:   4.2.1-r4::gentoo
sys-kernel/linux-headers: 5.4::gentoo (virtual/os-headers)
sys-libs/glibc:   2.29-r7::gentoo
Repositories:

gentoo
location: /usr/portage
sync-type: webrsync
sync-uri: "http://mirror.netcologne.de/gentoo/;
priority: -1000
sync-webrsync-verify-signature: yes

ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="amd64"
ACCEPT_LICENSE="@FREE"
CBUILD="x86_64-pc-linux-gnu"
CFLAGS="-march=native -O2 -pipe"
CHOST="x86_64-pc-linux-gnu"
CONFIG_PROTECT="/etc /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/ /usr/share/gnupg/qualified.txt"
CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK="/etc/ca-certificates.conf /etc/dconf /etc/env.d
/etc/fonts/fonts.conf /etc/gconf /etc/gentoo-release
/etc/revdep-rebuild /etc/sandbox.d /etc/terminfo"
CXXFLAGS="-march=native -O2 -pipe"
DISTDIR="/usr/portage/distfiles"
EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--ask --fail-clean"
ENV_UNSET="DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS DISPLAY GOBIN PERL5LIB PERL5OPT
PERLPREFIX PERL_CORE PERL_MB_OPT PERL_MM_OPT XAUTHORITY XDG_CACHE_HOME
XDG_CONFIG_HOME XDG_DATA_HOME XDG_RUNTIME_DIR"
FCFLAGS="-march=native -O2 -pipe"
FEATURES="assume-digests binpkg-docompress binpkg-dostrip binpkg-logs
config-protect-if-modified distlocks ebuild-locks fail-clean
fixlafiles ipc-sandbox merge-sync multilib-strict network-sandbox news
parallel-fetch pid-sandbox preserve-libs protect-owned
qa-unresolved-soname-deps sandbox sfperms strict unknown-features-warn
unmerge-logs unmerge-orphans userfetch userpriv usersandbox usersync
webrsync-gpg"
FFLAGS="-march=native -O2 -pipe"
GENTOO_MIRRORS="http://mirror.netcologne.de/gentoo/
https://mirrors.lug.mtu.edu/gentoo http://de-mirror.org/gentoo/
http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/distfiles.gentoo.org/
http://distfiles.gentoo.org
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/gentoo;
LANG="en_US.utf8"
LDFLAGS="-Wl,-O1 -Wl,--as-needed"
LINGUAS=""
MAKEOPTS="-j5"
PKGDIR="/usr/portage/packages"
PORTAGE_CONFIGROOT="/"
PORTAGE_RSYNC_OPTS="--recursive --links --safe-links --perms --times
--omit-dir-times --compress --force 

[gentoo-user] No keyserver available

2020-04-07 Thread gevisz
I have a long standing "gpg can't check signature: No public key"
error while running # emerge-webrsync
It appears because the webrsync-gpg feature has been set in my
make.conf however I do not want to switch it off.
The app-crypt/gentoo-keys is installed, so it is not the reason for above error.
I have just tried to download gentoo pgp keys manually with the command
gpg --keyserver hkps://keys.gentoo.org --recv-keys
13EBBDBEDE7A12775DFDB1BABB572E0E2D182910
and got the following error message:
gpg: keyserver receive failed: No keyserver available
Can anybody explain me how to fix this?



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: startx does not work for AMD/ATI Radion HD 4770

2019-12-27 Thread gevisz
пт, 27 дек. 2019 г. в 09:48, Ian Zimmerman :
>
> On 2019-12-26 18:12, gevisz wrote:
>
> > It seems that it finally was satisfied with those two blobs added.
> > At least I can now start twm.
>
> Good that you have a working system.  But it should _not_ be necessary
> to build the blobs into the kernel.  I have similar hardware (Gigabyte
> mobo with a Phenom and a Radeon) and I get by just fine with the blobs
> in /lib/firmware/radeon/* .
>
> I know they are being loaded because I patched my kernel to tell me in
> demsg, even in the case of success.
>
> qfile says these files belong to the linux-firmware package.  Do you
> have it installed?  And are they in the right location, /lib/firmware?
> I can see potential for mischief with the recent lib / lib64 migration.

All those blobs are from /lib/firmware/radeon. The problem was that
they were not mentioned in the documentation as needed for my
Radeon HD 4770 video card.



Re: [gentoo-user] startx does not work for AMD/ATI Radion HD 4770 [RESOLVED]

2019-12-26 Thread gevisz
чт, 26 дек. 2019 г. в 18:12, gevisz :
>
> чт, 26 дек. 2019 г. в 17:43, gevisz :
> >
> > чт, 26 дек. 2019 г. в 15:56, Mick :
> > >
> > > On Thursday, 26 December 2019 13:40:26 GMT gevisz wrote:
> > >
> > > > [1.098401] [drm] Loading RV730
> > > > [1.098466] radeon :01:00.0: Direct firmware load for
> > > > radeon/RV730_pfp.bin failed with error -2
> > > > [1.098543] r600_cp: Failed to load firmware "radeon/RV730_pfp.bin"
> > > > [1.098599] [rdm:rv770_init] *ERROR* Failed to load firmware!
> > > > [1.098655] radeon :01:00.0: Fatal error during GPU init
> > > > [1.098710] radeon: finishing device.
> > > >
> > > > I have not included RV730_pfp.bin to EXTRA_FIRMWARE kernel variable.
> > > > (And should not, according to the documentation.)
> > >
> > >
> > > Interesting!  o_O
> > >
> > > I remember the firmware blobs changing at some point in the past and my 
> > > dmesg
> > > on this laptop complained about missing firmware.
> > >
> > > I don't know if your card possesses the chipset the OS says it is.  In the
> > > first instance I suggest you add in the kernel what dmesg reports as 
> > > failing
> > > to load "radeon/RV730_pfp.bin".  If the hardware wants it, you better 
> > > provide
> > > it. Then reboot and see if it starts up happily, or reports of more 
> > > firmware
> > > blobs failing to load.
> >
> > Now, it
> > [1.098944] r600_cp: Failed to load firmware "radeon/RV730_me.bin"
>
> It seems that it finally was satisfied with those two blobs added.
> At least I can now start twm.

Yes, have just installed a normal WM and works now in a graphical mode.
Thanks to all who have tried to help and a special thanks to Mick. :)



Re: [gentoo-user] startx does not work for AMD/ATI Radion HD 4770

2019-12-26 Thread gevisz
чт, 26 дек. 2019 г. в 17:43, gevisz :
>
> чт, 26 дек. 2019 г. в 15:56, Mick :
> >
> > On Thursday, 26 December 2019 13:40:26 GMT gevisz wrote:
> >
> > > [1.098401] [drm] Loading RV730
> > > [1.098466] radeon :01:00.0: Direct firmware load for
> > > radeon/RV730_pfp.bin failed with error -2
> > > [1.098543] r600_cp: Failed to load firmware "radeon/RV730_pfp.bin"
> > > [1.098599] [rdm:rv770_init] *ERROR* Failed to load firmware!
> > > [1.098655] radeon :01:00.0: Fatal error during GPU init
> > > [1.098710] radeon: finishing device.
> > >
> > > I have not included RV730_pfp.bin to EXTRA_FIRMWARE kernel variable.
> > > (And should not, according to the documentation.)
> >
> >
> > Interesting!  o_O
> >
> > I remember the firmware blobs changing at some point in the past and my 
> > dmesg
> > on this laptop complained about missing firmware.
> >
> > I don't know if your card possesses the chipset the OS says it is.  In the
> > first instance I suggest you add in the kernel what dmesg reports as failing
> > to load "radeon/RV730_pfp.bin".  If the hardware wants it, you better 
> > provide
> > it. Then reboot and see if it starts up happily, or reports of more firmware
> > blobs failing to load.
>
> Now, it
> [1.098944] r600_cp: Failed to load firmware "radeon/RV730_me.bin"

It seems that it finally was satisfied with those two blobs added.
At least I can now start twm.



Re: [gentoo-user] startx does not work for AMD/ATI Radion HD 4770

2019-12-26 Thread gevisz
чт, 26 дек. 2019 г. в 15:56, Mick :
>
> On Thursday, 26 December 2019 13:40:26 GMT gevisz wrote:
>
> > [1.098401] [drm] Loading RV730
> > [1.098466] radeon :01:00.0: Direct firmware load for
> > radeon/RV730_pfp.bin failed with error -2
> > [1.098543] r600_cp: Failed to load firmware "radeon/RV730_pfp.bin"
> > [1.098599] [rdm:rv770_init] *ERROR* Failed to load firmware!
> > [1.098655] radeon :01:00.0: Fatal error during GPU init
> > [1.098710] radeon: finishing device.
> >
> > I have not included RV730_pfp.bin to EXTRA_FIRMWARE kernel variable.
> > (And should not, according to the documentation.)
>
>
> Interesting!  o_O
>
> I remember the firmware blobs changing at some point in the past and my dmesg
> on this laptop complained about missing firmware.
>
> I don't know if your card possesses the chipset the OS says it is.  In the
> first instance I suggest you add in the kernel what dmesg reports as failing
> to load "radeon/RV730_pfp.bin".  If the hardware wants it, you better provide
> it. Then reboot and see if it starts up happily, or reports of more firmware
> blobs failing to load.

Now, it
[1.098944] r600_cp: Failed to load firmware "radeon/RV730_me.bin"



Re: [gentoo-user] startx does not work for AMD/ATI Radion HD 4770

2019-12-26 Thread gevisz
чт, 26 дек. 2019 г. в 11:59, Mick :
>
> On Thursday, 26 December 2019 08:43:02 GMT Adam Carter wrote:
> > Try creating an xorg.conf
>
> You shouldn't need an xorg.conf today under most basic cases.  From what the
> OP reports below the kernel modesetting is not working, which makes me think
> some setting is probably missing in the kernel.
>
>
> > On Thursday, December 26, 2019, gevisz  wrote:
> > > I have installed Gentoo on my second desktop computer
> > > with Gigabyte MA790FXT-UD5P motherboard, AMD
> > > Phenome II X4 945 processor, and AMD/ATI Radion
> > > HD 4770 video card. However, currently I have only
> > > the command line: startx fails to start X11 reporting
> > > the following error:
> > > ...
> > > (II) [KMS] drm report modesetting isn't supported.
> > > (EE) Fatal server error:
> > > (EE) no screens found (EE)
> > > ...
> > > (EE) Server terminated with error (1). Closing log file.
> > > ...
> > > xinit: unable to connect to X server: Bad file descriptor.
> > > and this is despite of the fact that I configured 4.19.86
> > > gentoo kernel following instructions from
> > > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Xorg/Guide
> > > and
> > > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Radeon#Feature_support
> > > Namely, I set
> > > EXTRA_FIRMWARE_DIR = /lib/firmware
> > > EXTRA_FIRMWARE = radeon/R700_rlc.bin, RV740_smc.bin, and RV710_uvd.bin
> > > DRM = y and DRM_RADEON = y as described in the second link above.
> > > (I have tried several variations but always got the above
> > > error message after startx.)
>
> I have a slightly older card than yours in a laptop:
>
> "ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4670" (ChipID = 0x9488) AMD RV730
>
> These kernel .config entries may be needed in yours too:
>
> $ grep -i DRM /usr/src/linux/.config
> CONFIG_DRM=y
> # CONFIG_DRM_DP_AUX_CHARDEV is not set
> # CONFIG_DRM_DEBUG_MM is not set
> # CONFIG_DRM_DEBUG_SELFTEST is not set
> CONFIG_DRM_KMS_HELPER=y
> CONFIG_DRM_KMS_FB_HELPER=y
> CONFIG_DRM_FBDEV_EMULATION=y
> CONFIG_DRM_FBDEV_OVERALLOC=100
> # CONFIG_DRM_LOAD_EDID_FIRMWARE is not set
> # CONFIG_DRM_DP_CEC is not set
> CONFIG_DRM_TTM=y
> # CONFIG_DRM_I2C_CH7006 is not set
> # CONFIG_DRM_I2C_SIL164 is not set
> # CONFIG_DRM_I2C_NXP_TDA998X is not set
> # CONFIG_DRM_I2C_NXP_TDA9950 is not set
> CONFIG_DRM_RADEON=y
> CONFIG_DRM_RADEON_USERPTR=y
> # CONFIG_DRM_AMDGPU is not set
> # CONFIG_DRM_NOUVEAU is not set
> # CONFIG_DRM_I915 is not set
> CONFIG_DRM_VGEM=y
> # CONFIG_DRM_VKMS is not set
> # CONFIG_DRM_VMWGFX is not set
> # CONFIG_DRM_GMA500 is not set
> CONFIG_DRM_UDL=m
> # CONFIG_DRM_AST is not set
> # CONFIG_DRM_MGAG200 is not set
> # CONFIG_DRM_CIRRUS_QEMU is not set
> # CONFIG_DRM_QXL is not set
> # CONFIG_DRM_BOCHS is not set
> # CONFIG_DRM_VIRTIO_GPU is not set
> CONFIG_DRM_PANEL=y
> CONFIG_DRM_BRIDGE=y
> CONFIG_DRM_PANEL_BRIDGE=y
> # CONFIG_DRM_ANALOGIX_ANX78XX is not set
> # CONFIG_DRM_HISI_HIBMC is not set
> # CONFIG_DRM_TINYDRM is not set
> # CONFIG_DRM_LEGACY is not set
> CONFIG_DRM_PANEL_ORIENTATION_QUIRKS=y
> # CONFIG_DRM_VBOXVIDEO is not set
>
> Also in make.conf I have:
>
> VIDEO_CARDS="radeon r600"
>
> Rebuild your kernel, xorg and mesa, if you change any of the the above,
> reboot, check dmesg to make sure your radeon firmware is loading and the
> kernel is not reporting any errors on your card, then startx and look at /var/
> log/Xorg.0.log to see what is being reported.

Thank you for sharing your kernal configuration. Comparing it to mine,
I have found only two differences. Namely, my kernel configuration had:
CONFIG_DRM_VGEM=n (you had "y" here)
CONFIG_DRM_UDL=n (you had "m" here)
I consired the second one irrelevant. So, I have changed the first one and
recompiled everything you mentioned. (VIDEO_CARDS variable in my make.conf
alsowas the same.) However, after reboot, I have got the same startx
error message.

Looking onto dmesg, I found the following messages related to Radeon video card:
[1.096815] [drm] radeon kernel modesetting enabled.
[1.097070] [drm] initializing kernel modesetting (RV740 0x1002:0x94B3
0x1002:0x0D00 0x00).
...
[1.098286] [drm] radeon: 512M of VRAM memory ready
[1.098341] [drm] radeon: 1024M of GTT memory ready.
[1.098401] [drm] Loading RV730
[1.098466] radeon :01:00.0: Direct firmware load for
radeon/RV730_pfp.bin failed with error -2
[1.098543] r600_cp: Failed to load firmware "radeon/RV730_pfp.bin"
[1.098599] [rdm:rv770_init] *ERROR* Failed to load firmware!
[1.098655] radeon :01:00.0: Fatal error during GPU init
[1.098710] radeon: finishing device.

I have not included RV730_pfp.bin to EXTRA_FIRMWARE kernel variable.
(And should not, according to the documentation.)



[gentoo-user] startx does not work for AMD/ATI Radion HD 4770

2019-12-26 Thread gevisz
I have installed Gentoo on my second desktop computer
with Gigabyte MA790FXT-UD5P motherboard, AMD
Phenome II X4 945 processor, and AMD/ATI Radion
HD 4770 video card. However, currently I have only
the command line: startx fails to start X11 reporting
the following error:
...
(II) [KMS] drm report modesetting isn't supported.
(EE) Fatal server error:
(EE) no screens found (EE)
...
(EE) Server terminated with error (1). Closing log file.
...
xinit: unable to connect to X server: Bad file descriptor.
and this is despite of the fact that I configured 4.19.86
gentoo kernel following instructions from
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Xorg/Guide
and
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Radeon#Feature_support
Namely, I set
EXTRA_FIRMWARE_DIR = /lib/firmware
EXTRA_FIRMWARE = radeon/R700_rlc.bin, RV740_smc.bin, and RV710_uvd.bin
DRM = y and DRM_RADEON = y as described in the second link above.
(I have tried several variations but always got the above
error message after startx.)



Re: [gentoo-user] Skype does not start again (in user mode)

2019-01-30 Thread gevisz
ср, 30 янв. 2019 г. в 23:57, Jack :
>
> On 2019.01.30 16:11, gevisz wrote:
> > Just yesterday I have installed skypeforlinux
> > on my Gentoo box and found out that it does
> > not start from user command line but does
> > start from super user and moreover works
> > quite well with that power.
> >
> > Does anybody have some idea how to make
> > skypeforlinux to start from usual user command
> > line beyond the general
> > "something-wrong-with-permissions" wisdom?
> >
> > P.S. The user is in the video group.
>
> It works fine for me, no special permissions that I'm aware of.  Any
> error messages if you launch from command line?  Anything of interest
> in ~/.config/skypeforlinux/logs ?
>

Thank you for your reply.

I have just tried to start skypeforlinux in user mode now:
no error messages and ~/.config/skypeforlinux/logs contains
only the follows line:
Server response: 

[gentoo-user] Skype does not start again (in user mode)

2019-01-30 Thread gevisz
Just yesterday I have installed skypeforlinux
on my Gentoo box and found out that it does
not start from user command line but does
start from super user and moreover works
quite well with that power.

Does anybody have some idea how to make
skypeforlinux to start from usual user command
line beyond the general
"something-wrong-with-permissions" wisdom?

P.S. The user is in the video group.



Re: [gentoo-user] Portage snapshot signing key expired again

2019-01-09 Thread gevisz
ср, 9 янв. 2019 г. в 22:17, Rich Freeman :
>
> On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 2:38 PM gevisz  wrote:
> >
> > ср, 9 янв. 2019 г. в 19:36, Rich Freeman :
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 6:21 AM gevisz  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On the other side, app-crypt/gkeys is marked by ~
> > > > in my architecture (amd64). So, it is impossible
> > > > to update the portage snapshot signing key without
> > > > using non-recommended package.
> > Ok, not app-crypt/gentoo-keys package but
> > app-crypt/openpgp-keys-gentoo-release package.
> >
> > Does it matter?
>
> Sure, because you brought up issues with unrelated packages, like
> stable/unstable keywords, which aren't actually problems.
>
> > After that I have found out that a new
> > app-crypt/openpgp-keys-gentoo-release package
> > was released on 2 January 2019 when the previous
> > portage signing keys already expired.
>
> You probably should have led with that.  Seems like an actual issue.
> Or at least lead with "I have this problem - what should I do?" and
> not basically starting out by accusing everybody of not caring about
> security.
>
> Really, though, an expired key fails safe - it blocks updates and
> doesn't cause you to install insecure ones.  That is certainly how I'd
> prefer that it behaves.  Sure, it would be better if keys were updated
> before they expire, but I tend to doubt that your email is going to do
> much to fix that.

I had an impression that you are a member of the Gentoo council.
Now I have checked this and found out that you are not. So, I should
agree with you that this my e-mail probably will not do much to fix
the issue (especially the one with the bug). So, I should probably
sent a similar e-mail to all Gentoo council members.

> I don't use webrsync which is probably why I didn't personally notice
> this issue - I'm guessing it uses a different key than git but I
> haven't checked.

Yes, they uses different ways of verifying the snapshots.



Re: [gentoo-user] Portage snapshot signing key expired again

2019-01-09 Thread gevisz
ср, 9 янв. 2019 г. в 19:36, Rich Freeman :
>
> On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 6:21 AM gevisz  wrote:
> >
> > Just tonight I tried to update my portage snapshot
> > by emerge-webrsync command and found out that
> > the portage snapshot signing key expired again
> > without being properly updated by app-crypt/gentoo-keys
> > update before its expiration as described here:
> > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:AMD64/Working/Features#Validated_Portage_tree_snapshots
>
> So, a few issues there.  Gentoo-keys isn't used to validate portage
> snapshots.  On my system emerge --sync checks them with
> /usr/share/openpgp-keys/gentoo-release.asc which is part of
> app-crypt/openpgp-keys-gentoo-release.  The keys in this file don't
> expire until July 2019 at the earliest.
>
> > On the other side, app-crypt/gkeys is marked by ~
> > in my architecture (amd64). So, it is impossible
> > to update the portage snapshot signing key without
> > using non-recommended package.
>
> Then don't use that package.  It isn't needed to verify signing keys.  :)
>
> > The same situation happened just half a year ago.
> >
> > Is it only me who thinks that Gentoo must care more about security?
> >
>
> You might want to investigate a bit more before pointing fingers...

Ok, not app-crypt/gentoo-keys package but
app-crypt/openpgp-keys-gentoo-release package.

Does it matter?

The fact is that today emerge-webrsync said me that the
protage snapshot signing key expired and because of it
it cannot download and verify the daily portage snapshot.

I had no choice than to install app-crypt/gkeys package
and use it to get new portage snapshot signing keys.

Only after that emerge-webrsync finally was able to
download and verify the daily portage snapshot.

After that I have found out that a new
app-crypt/openpgp-keys-gentoo-release package
was released on 2 January 2019 when the previous
portage signing keys already expired.

The similar situation was just a half year ago.

To add to it, the following bug with Gentoo documentation
I have posted yet on 24 November 2018 is still unfixed:
https://bugs.gentoo.org/671816

Just to remind, the said bug is about the fact that it is
impossible to install Gentoo the way as it is described
in the Gentoo Handbook just because the same
emerge-webrsync cannot download and verify the
daily portage snapshot just after stage3 is untarred.

What else shall I "investigate" before stating that
Gentoo neglects security issues?

No wonder that Gentoo GitHub account was also hacked last year!



[gentoo-user] Portage snapshot signing key expired again

2019-01-09 Thread gevisz
Just tonight I tried to update my portage snapshot
by emerge-webrsync command and found out that
the portage snapshot signing key expired again
without being properly updated by app-crypt/gentoo-keys
update before its expiration as described here:
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:AMD64/Working/Features#Validated_Portage_tree_snapshots

On the other side, app-crypt/gkeys is marked by ~
in my architecture (amd64). So, it is impossible
to update the portage snapshot signing key without
using non-recommended package.

The same situation happened just half a year ago.

Is it only me who thinks that Gentoo must care more about security?



Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox, downloading files and odd behavior.

2019-01-08 Thread gevisz
пн, 7 янв. 2019 г. в 12:21, Peter Humphrey :
>
> On Sunday, 6 January 2019 22:13:31 GMT Dale wrote:
>
> > Even from my simple setup, LVM adds more benefits to managing data and
> > drives than it does risk.  The biggest thing, placing blame where it
> > lies.  Blaming LVM for a drive dying is placing the blame on something
> > that wasn't the root of the problem.  The dying drive was the problem,
> > using LVM or not.
>
> He isn't doing that, though. As I read it, he recounted the tale of recovering
> data from a failed drive, then imagined how much worse it would be if it were
> in an LVM setup.

Yes, you are right.

May I also remind everybody that this thread was initially about a
problem with Firefox? :)



Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox, downloading files and odd behavior.

2019-01-06 Thread gevisz
вс, 6 янв. 2019 г. в 15:57, Peter Humphrey :
>
> On Sunday, 6 January 2019 11:05:10 GMT gevisz wrote:
>
> > I never used LVM as I believe that it increases the chance of [losing]
> > all the information on hard disks.
>
> Interesting. Would you like to explain why?

I had once a 40GB HDD failure and I have managed to restore
all the data on it by repeatedly putting it in a fridge what enabled
me to dd its partions for about 10 minutes or so. But in that case
the partitions were relatively small and the disk mounted quick
and easy. Now imagine that have failed a 4TB HDD disk that is
part of much bigger LVM volume. Moreover, suppose that it is
impossible to restore that part of the failed HDD disk that indexes
all that LVM volume...



Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox, downloading files and odd behavior.

2019-01-06 Thread gevisz
вс, 6 янв. 2019 г. в 02:54, Dale :
>
> gevisz wrote:
> > вт, 1 янв. 2019 г. в 06:45, Dale :
> >> With the newer Firefox versions, I've noticed something weird about
> >> downloading files.  Usually these are videos using a download helper for
> >> videos and sometimes it is a normal file download, depends on the site.
> >> Either way, I get something odd at times.  So far, I've yet to see any
> >> rhyme or reason to it.  I can't figure out what triggers it.  This is
> >> what it does.  I start a download, either using a video helper add on or
> >> downloading as a file.  I give it a name and location and it shows in
> >> the download window that it is downloading.  However, if I go to the
> >> directory where it should be, sometimes nothing shows up.  It will
> >> complete the download and then show that it failed after finishing the
> >> download.  However, if I notice that it is not in the directory where it
> >> should be and I go back to the download window, hit pause and then
> >> resume, it starts over from the beginning and then shows up in the
> >> directory where it should be.  Most of the time, it shows up that it is
> >> downloading and it is where it should be without be doing anything
> >> further but sometimes, it doesn't.
> >>
> >> One other thing that it does on rare occasions.  It will show it is
> >> downloading for a good while, sometimes more than half way, then
> >> disappear in the directory as if it is deleted but still show that it is
> >> downloading in the download window.  I've only seen it do that a few
> >> times but it is annoying to look and make sure it is downloading a file
> >> that takes a hour or more only to have it disappear part way through.
> >>
> >> This started with the new multi-process versions or whatever it is
> >> called of Firefox.  It acts like a permissions problem or something to
> >> me.  It either thinks it doesn't have write permissions at the start or
> >> thinks it loses them part way through or something.  If it only did this
> >> when using the add on, I'd think it is that but it also does it when I'm
> >> downloading as a file with no add on being used.  Either way, I'm not
> >> sure what to look into really.  I'm not even sure what to google for to
> >> see if anyone else is noticing this.  What does one call this problem???
> >>
> > I experience similar problems with downloading files in Firefox for quite
> > a long time. I cannot say for how long time exactly, but estimating it
> > from memory: for about a few years. Yes, t is quite annoying but
> > currently I have already got the habit to open download manager
> > every time I download a file, stop downloading it and then restart again.
> > (I even try to do the same automatically while using other web browsers
> >  like chromium or google-chrome. :)
> >
> > However, I believe that it has nothing to do with "the newer Firefox 
> > versions"
> > as I still use Firefox version 52.9.0 (compiled without clang) and all these
> > troubles with downloading files started even on much more earlier versions.
> >
>
> Interesting.  I don't recall it ever doing this with the older versions
> but maybe whatever it is is just now hitting me for some reason.  That's
> the thing about random problems, they are random.  Still, at least I
> know it is not just me.
>
> Since you mention chromium etc, that makes me wonder if it is the
> browser at all.  Could it be something else?  A permissions issue
> maybe?  Some sort of file system problem?  Could it be a common package
> that these browsers depend on?  Which leads to this question.  Do you
> use LVM or ext4 or both?  I use LVM and ext4 here.  Odds are, we both
> have the same dependencies installed so not sure how to figure out if it
> is one of those.

I should clarify: I experience the said download problem only in Firefox,
never with Chromium or Google-chrome. I have mentioned Chromium
and Google-chrome only to indicate that my habit of opening download
manager became so unconscious that I try to open download manager
even in Chromium and Google-chrome, when it is not needed.

Luckily, the hot keys for opening download manager in Firefox and
Chromium/Google-chrome do not coincide, so I just end up opening
something else and then realize that download manager is not needed.

I never used LVM as I believe that it increases the chance of loosing
all the information on hard disks.

And yes, I do use ext4 as it is the default file system for Linux.

P.S. Most often, I download html pages and have noticed that the
said download problem does not arise when I download html pages
in the so called "read" view, that is after pressing that little book icon
in the Firefox URL address line, whereas downloading the same pages
from a usual default view, with a lot of additional files, almost sure
leads to the said download problem.



Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox, downloading files and odd behavior.

2019-01-05 Thread gevisz
вт, 1 янв. 2019 г. в 06:45, Dale :
>
> With the newer Firefox versions, I've noticed something weird about
> downloading files.  Usually these are videos using a download helper for
> videos and sometimes it is a normal file download, depends on the site.
> Either way, I get something odd at times.  So far, I've yet to see any
> rhyme or reason to it.  I can't figure out what triggers it.  This is
> what it does.  I start a download, either using a video helper add on or
> downloading as a file.  I give it a name and location and it shows in
> the download window that it is downloading.  However, if I go to the
> directory where it should be, sometimes nothing shows up.  It will
> complete the download and then show that it failed after finishing the
> download.  However, if I notice that it is not in the directory where it
> should be and I go back to the download window, hit pause and then
> resume, it starts over from the beginning and then shows up in the
> directory where it should be.  Most of the time, it shows up that it is
> downloading and it is where it should be without be doing anything
> further but sometimes, it doesn't.
>
> One other thing that it does on rare occasions.  It will show it is
> downloading for a good while, sometimes more than half way, then
> disappear in the directory as if it is deleted but still show that it is
> downloading in the download window.  I've only seen it do that a few
> times but it is annoying to look and make sure it is downloading a file
> that takes a hour or more only to have it disappear part way through.
>
> This started with the new multi-process versions or whatever it is
> called of Firefox.  It acts like a permissions problem or something to
> me.  It either thinks it doesn't have write permissions at the start or
> thinks it loses them part way through or something.  If it only did this
> when using the add on, I'd think it is that but it also does it when I'm
> downloading as a file with no add on being used.  Either way, I'm not
> sure what to look into really.  I'm not even sure what to google for to
> see if anyone else is noticing this.  What does one call this problem???
>

I experience similar problems with downloading files in Firefox for quite
a long time. I cannot say for how long time exactly, but estimating it
from memory: for about a few years. Yes, t is quite annoying but
currently I have already got the habit to open download manager
every time I download a file, stop downloading it and then restart again.
(I even try to do the same automatically while using other web browsers
 like chromium or google-chrome. :)

However, I believe that it has nothing to do with "the newer Firefox versions"
as I still use Firefox version 52.9.0 (compiled without clang) and all these
troubles with downloading files started even on much more earlier versions.



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