Re: [Gimp-gui] Force Toolbox Widgets To Bottom

> On 10/15/2015 01:32 PM, Jehan wrote: > >many multi-windows users of GIMP exist. They should manifest themselves > >more often for their workflows to be heard (so thanks for this message, Elle Stone writes: > Another thing about Multiple Window Mode that I really like and use a lot, > is the abil

Re: [Gimp-gui] Toolbox Groups

Hi, On 2015-10-15 18:55, Akkana Peck wrote: On 2015-10-15 01:51, Andrew Pullins wrote: >To improve user experience I propose toolbox groups. Attached is an >image showing how this could be done. In Preferences > Toolbox there Jehan writes: This is an interesting idea, but I wonder if we can't

Re: [Gimp-gui] GIMP Workspaces Concept

On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 12:40 PM, Jehan wrote: > This is interesting though I wonder how many user would actually use > these. I feel like while this seems like a cool idea at first, but then > many users may get used to one of their workspace in particular and in the > end would basically use on

Re: [Gimp-gui] Force Toolbox Widgets To Bottom

> > The discussion started with a request to remove the verbiage about > dropping dialogs in the box, when there aren't any dialogs in the toolbox > (a great idea, I do get tired of the "belt and suspenders" approach to the > UI). > And now the discussion has reached the point where the suggestio

Re: [Gimp-gui] GIMP Workspaces Concept

On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 12:40 PM, Jehan wrote: > I'm interested to study the possibility of the workspaces on GIMP... >> in theory, we already have the themes... the workspaces is the natural >> extension of this concept... is an enhancement of the theme feature, >> but I am not safe if is good t

Re: [Gimp-gui] GIMP Workspaces Concept

On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 1:53 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine < alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Basically you want what other software call "profiles" to have separate > > settings, right? Like you would have one *workspace* for "painting", one > > for "photography editing", and so on. Is that

Re: [Gimp-gui] Force Toolbox Widgets To Bottom

On 10/15/2015 01:32 PM, Jehan wrote: Hi, On 2015-10-15 19:14, Elle Stone wrote: Am I the only person who likes the Toolbox just the way it is? I'm having a difficult time imagining a more efficient layout for Tools than GIMP already has. (I don't mean Single-Window Mode, which seems to me to

Re: [Gimp-gui] Toolbox Groups

> On 2015-10-15 01:51, Andrew Pullins wrote: > >To improve user experience I propose toolbox groups. Attached is an > >image showing how this could be done. In Preferences > Toolbox there Jehan writes: > This is an interesting idea, but I wonder if we can't do better than this. > It does not feel

Re: [Gimp-gui] Force Toolbox Widgets To Bottom

On 10/15/2015 01:29 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: >Here's a screenshot showing the left edge of the screen, showing the >Toolbox and an image window, in which I free up some vertical real >estate by hiding the menu bar: >http://ninedegreesbelow.com/bug-reports/gimp29/gimp-toolbox.png Let's jus

Re: [Gimp-gui] Force Toolbox Widgets To Bottom

Hi, On 2015-10-15 19:52, Elle Stone wrote: On 10/15/2015 01:29 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: On 10/15/15, Elle Stone wrote: Yes, I resize the Toolbox from time to time, and I find the ability to resize the Toolbox very handy, depending on whether I want more room for the image, or more ro

Re: [Gimp-gui] Force Toolbox Widgets To Bottom

Hi, On 2015-10-15 19:37, Elle Stone wrote: On 10/15/2015 01:23 PM, Andrew Pullins wrote: The point of this feature is not to take a way your ability to add dialog to the toolbox, nether bottom, left, or right. On the contrary, the point is when you have users like me who do not like the dialo

Re: [Gimp-gui] Force Toolbox Widgets To Bottom

On 10/15/2015 01:29 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: On 10/15/15, Elle Stone wrote: Yes, I resize the Toolbox from time to time, and I find the ability to resize the Toolbox very handy, depending on whether I want more room for the image, or more room to read the layer names (I end up with large

Re: [Gimp-gui] GIMP shows a thumbnail in taskbar rather than its icon

On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 17:38:28 +0200 Jehan wrote: > [...] > Then the question is: do you feel it helps or make GIMP more usable to > have the thumbnail show there instead of the Wilber icon? Or oppositely > is it a bother? I normally work in "single window mode" and do have some difficulty findi

Re: [Gimp-gui] Force Toolbox Widgets To Bottom

On 10/15/2015 01:23 PM, Andrew Pullins wrote: The point of this feature is not to take a way your ability to add dialog to the toolbox, nether bottom, left, or right. On the contrary, the point is when you have users like me who do not like the dialogs in the toolbox. When you take away the dial

Re: [Gimp-gui] Force Toolbox Widgets To Bottom

Hi, On 2015-10-15 19:14, Elle Stone wrote: On 10/15/2015 12:41 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: If I may suggest, we should work on a complete redesign of the toolbox and tools' options. The way things are going, we are likely to create another Frankenstein toolbox. What we are missing here is

Re: [Gimp-gui] Dockable dialog for reference image(s)

On 10/15/15, Akkana Peck wrote: > I'm a huge proponent of having an intermediate solution between > all-SWM and all-MWM -- I'd love to see something like multiple > tabbed image windows, like a browser, so I could have one window > for the 7 photos I'm working on, a separate image window for that

Re: [Gimp-gui] Force Toolbox Widgets To Bottom

On 10/15/15, Elle Stone wrote: > Yes, I resize the Toolbox from time to time, and I find the ability to > resize the Toolbox very handy, depending on whether I want more room for > the image, or more room to read the layer names (I end up with large > layer stacks, and so I label all the layers to

Re: [Gimp-gui] Force Toolbox Widgets To Bottom

> > No problem there. Probably I should not have reacted myself, I was merely > trying to make a point there about choosing some words wisely, because we > see all kind of not very cool remarks in bug reports and saying that a help > message can be seen as insulting users is one of these. A message

Re: [Gimp-gui] Dockable dialog for reference image(s)

Jehan writes: > On 2015-10-15 18:20, Pat David wrote: > >Would this be something like MWM, but the ability to dock dialogs to a > >particular window? (ie: SWM would basically be MWM, but with > >everything docked to one window). > > Yes basically stop with the SWM vs MWM dichotomy and just have a

Re: [Gimp-gui] Toolbox Groups

Im not sure if I posted this to the group. > This is an interesting idea, but I wonder if we can't do better than this. It does not feel that efficient to me to basically have submenus on tools. > I'm wondering if some better user experience cannot be achieved to deal with the fact that GIMP has

Re: [Gimp-gui] Force Toolbox Widgets To Bottom

On 10/15/2015 12:41 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: If I may suggest, we should work on a complete redesign of the toolbox and tools' options. The way things are going, we are likely to create another Frankenstein toolbox. What we are missing here is cold analysis. A lot of your requests stem fr

Re: [Gimp-gui] Force Toolbox Widgets To Bottom

Hi, On 2015-10-15 18:58, Andrew Pullins wrote: To make the Toolbox look better and more consistent with the rest of GIMP. I suggest that the "You can drop dockable dialogs here" be dropped and the Toolbox Widgets be forced to the bottom leaving room for dialogs to be docked at the bottom of the

Re: [Gimp-gui] Force Toolbox Widgets To Bottom

The reason I split it up this way is because I did not want someone to shoot down the entire thing because they did not like one aspect to my idea. I think Alexandre has a good point, I can't think of any design app that lets you resize the toolbox like GIMP does. I think if all the ideas the I hav

Re: [Gimp-gui] Force Toolbox Widgets To Bottom

Hi, On 2015-10-15 18:41, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: On 10/15/15, Andrew Pullins wrote: Now that this label is gone what is to be done with the Toolbox wegits? Well I think they should be forced to the bottom of bottom of the Toolbox. If I may suggest, we should work on a complete redesign

Re: [Gimp-gui] Dockable dialog for reference image(s)

On 10/15/15, Jehan wrote: >> When painting portraits from photos, I always want to have my canvas >> side-by-side with a reference image. The only way I can display a >> reference image within GIMP is to un-check the single-window mode >> option and set up a second canvas to hold the reference im

Re: [Gimp-gui] Force Toolbox Widgets To Bottom

> To make the Toolbox look better and more consistent with the rest of >> GIMP. I suggest that the "You can drop dockable dialogs here" be >> dropped and the Toolbox Widgets be forced to the bottom leaving room >> for dialogs to be docked at the bottom of the tool box. >> >> This label is not reall

Re: [Gimp-gui] GIMP Workspaces Concept

On 10/15/15, Jehan wrote: > Basically you want what other software call "profiles" to have separate > settings, right? Like you would have one *workspace* for "painting", one > for "photography editing", and so on. Is that it? > > This is interesting though I wonder how many user would actually us

Re: [Gimp-gui] Toolbox Groups

On 10/15/15, Andrew Pullins wrote: > To improve user experience I propose toolbox groups. Attached is an > image showing how this could be done. In Preferences > Toolbox there > would be a new folder button to add folder groups. Use the up and down > arrows or Drag tool into folders to add them t

Re: [Gimp-gui] Force Toolbox Widgets To Bottom

On 10/15/15, Andrew Pullins wrote: > Now that this label is gone what is to be done with the Toolbox > wegits? Well I think they should be forced to the bottom of bottom of > the Toolbox. If I may suggest, we should work on a complete redesign of the toolbox and tools' options. The way things a

Re: [Gimp-gui] Toolbox Spacer

On 10/15/15, Andrew Pullins wrote: > Feature Request, attachment 313346 > > > #User Story > > Sometimes it is kinda hard to find the tool you are looking for > especially when you resize your toolbox or the window resizes your > toolbox. Depen

Re: [Gimp-gui] Dockable dialog for reference image(s)

Hi, On 2015-10-15 18:20, Pat David wrote: On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 11:07 AM Jehan wrote: So why couldn't we have a single window mode type UI and still be able to detach images out (not only as polaroid, but also to work on it; right now only docks can be detached). For instance someone could

Re: [Gimp-gui] Toolbox Ellipsis

On 10/15/15, Andrew Pullins wrote: > As a solution I purpose that when there are too many tools to in the > space provided with the Toolbox Widgets that an ellipse menu appear. > This menu would hold all the over flow tools so that the user can > still access them no matter what the size of their

Re: [Gimp-gui] Dockable dialog for reference image(s)

On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 11:07 AM Jehan wrote: > > So why couldn't we have a single window mode type UI and still be able > to detach images out (not only as polaroid, but also to work on it; > right now only docks can be detached). For instance someone could work > on several screens, would want

Re: [Gimp-gui] Dockable dialog for reference image(s)

Hi, On 2015-10-15 10:55, Joseph Bupe wrote: Hi, When painting portraits from photos, I always want to have my canvas side-by-side with a reference image. The only way I can display a reference image within GIMP is to un-check the single-window mode option and set up a second canvas to hold the

Re: [Gimp-gui] GIMP Workspaces Concept

Hi, On 2015-10-15 16:55, Americo Gobbo wrote: Hi all, I'm interested to study the possibility of the workspaces on GIMP... in theory, we already have the themes... the workspaces is the natural extension of this concept... is an enhancement of the theme feature, but I am not safe if is good to t

[Gimp-gui] GIMP Workspaces Concept

Hi all, I'm interested to study the possibility of the workspaces on GIMP... in theory, we already have the themes... the workspaces is the natural extension of this concept... is an enhancement of the theme feature, but I am not safe if is good to talk in this way... because the workspace do not c

Re: [Gimp-gui] Shrink Toolbox Widgets

On Thu, 2015-10-15 at 16:02 +0200, Jehan wrote: > Hi, > > On 2015-10-15 14:54, Kevin Payne wrote: > > > There is also a bug report about switching to small icons more > > > easily > > > (https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=754442), though I see > > > that > > > small icons do not actually c

Re: [Gimp-gui] Shrink Toolbox Widgets

Hi, On 2015-10-15 14:54, Kevin Payne wrote: There is also a bug report about switching to small icons more easily (https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=754442), though I see that small icons do not actually change the size of such buttons (fg/bg color and such in the toolbox), which can

Re: [Gimp-gui] Shrink Toolbox Widgets

>There is also a bug report about switching to small icons more easily >(https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=754442), though I see that >small icons do not actually change the size of such buttons (fg/bg color >and such in the toolbox), which can be considered as related. >Jehan The fg/bg s

Re: [Gimp-gui] Shrink Toolbox Widgets

Hi, On 2015-10-15 01:54, Andrew Pullins wrote: Feature Request [1], attachment 313347 [2] #User Story As a user with a smaller screen horizontal screenestate can be just as important as vertical screenestate. When the user gets rid of the widgets they can shrink the toolbox to the width of one

Re: [Gimp-gui] Toolbox Groups

Hi, On 2015-10-15 01:51, Andrew Pullins wrote: Feature Request [1], attachment 313344 [2] #User Story As a user with a small vertical screen estate my toolbox pushes the foreground & background color, active brush, pattern & gradient, and active image down past the window. Depending on the scr

Re: [Gimp-gui] Force Toolbox Widgets To Bottom

Hi, On 2015-10-15 01:53, Andrew Pullins wrote: Feature Request [1], attachment 313345 [2] To make the Toolbox look better and more consistent with the rest of GIMP. I suggest that the "You can drop dockable dialogs here" be dropped and the Toolbox Widgets be forced to the bottom leaving room fo

Re: [Gimp-gui] GIMP wiki

Hi, On 2015-10-15 01:47, Andrew Pullins wrote: Hello, On 2015-10-09 15:48, Pat David wrote: I'd agree that the wiki is possibly the best place to flesh these ideas out with history and more flexibility to utilize images and media to demonstrate our ideas (a big + when dealing with some of the

[Gimp-gui] Dockable dialog for reference image(s)

Hi, When painting portraits from photos, I always want to have my canvas side-by-side with a reference image. The only way I can display a reference image within GIMP is to un-check the single-window mode option and set up a second canvas to hold the reference image. There should be a way to hold