I've just reverted to 2.2
2.4 has too many problems to bother with; the alt key is the final straw.
TW
On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 07:42:29 -, Sven Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Wed, 2007-12-19 at 21:18 +, Thomas Worthington wrote:
>
>> It's not a "problem" either with window
On December 19, 2007 01:10:11 pm Daniel Hornung wrote:
> On Wednesday 19 December 2007, Thomas Worthington wrote:
> > Is there any way to restore the Alt key to its old usage in 2.4? I can't
> > drag selections anymore because it requires Alt and mouse at the same
> > time, which is a problem on Li
Thomas Worthington wrote:
> I've just reverted to 2.2
>
> 2.4 has too many problems to bother with; the alt key is the final straw.
I've been lurking on this list for several years. I'd LOVE to be able
to use Gimp instead of paying the ever increasing price of Photoshop.
But Gimp is NOT a suit
JC Dill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thomas Worthington wrote:
> > I've just reverted to 2.2
> >
> > 2.4 has too many problems to bother with; the alt key is the final straw.
>
> I've been lurking on this list for several years. I'd LOVE to be able
> to use Gimp instead of paying the ever incr
Hi,
On Thu, 2007-12-20 at 14:46 +, Thomas Worthington wrote:
> I've just reverted to 2.2
>
> 2.4 has too many problems to bother with; the alt key is the final straw.
Sorry, but if there are problems with 2.4, then we would like to hear
about them. So far the feedback has been very positive.
According the the Gimp documentation you can sort a palette. How do you do
this? Because
when I right click a palette the options 9-12 are missing on a palette that I
created
In the palette pop menu you should have
1.edit palette'
2.new palette
3.import palette
4.duplicate palette
5.merge
Hi,
On Thu, 2007-12-20 at 10:19 -0800, D.Jones (aka) Capnhud wrote:
> According the the Gimp documentation you can sort a palette. How do you do
> this? Because
> when I right click a palette the options 9-12 are missing on a palette that I
> created
Looks like you don't have Python on your co
On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 17:29:12 -, Olivier Lecarme
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Could you be only a little specific about these "capricious changes"?
> And what is this "alt-key problem"? From the beginning of GIMP, the alt
> key has been used for some specific uses, for example in the layer ma
Thomas Worthington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 17:29:12 -, Olivier Lecarme
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Could you be only a little specific about these "capricious changes"?
> > And what is this "alt-key problem"? From the beginning of GIMP, the alt
> > key has been
Hi,
On Thu, 2007-12-20 at 18:26 +, Thomas Worthington wrote:
> I'm not aware of any interaction with the layer mask which requires Alt
> and mouse movement (only click, which isn't a problem). Moving a selected
> region is a very common action and now seems impossible under normal Linux
On Thursday 20 December 2007, Robert Smits wrote:
> Windows key? What is this mythical key? It is certainly not evident on any
> of my keyboards.
It's the one with the flying (i.e. moving) window. But I'm afraid some
malicous company grabbed it as their trade mark without even implementing the
On Thursday 20 December 2007 10:26:12 am Thomas Worthington
wrote:
> Moving a selected region is a very common action and
> now seems impossible under normal Linux user interfaces. I can
> see the application of "capricious" to that situation. What
> was the benefit of changing the default drag ac
Olivier Lecarme wrote:
> JC Dill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>> Thomas Worthington wrote:
>>
>>> I've just reverted to 2.2
>>>
>>> 2.4 has too many problems to bother with; the alt key is the final straw.
>>>
>> I've been lurking on this list for several years. I'd LOVE to be abl
On Thursday 20 December 2007, Scott wrote:
> Actually, moving a selection in Gimp 2.4 is easier than it was in
> 2.2. Simply left click within the selected region and drag... no
> modifier keys needed and no need to grab the edge of the
> selection when doing so. I just did this in 2.4.1 in KDE 3.
Hi,
On Thu, 2007-12-20 at 11:17 -0800, JC Dill wrote:
> The behavior and use of the Alt key changed between 2.2 and 2.4, without
> providing any way for users to select or configure the older behavior in
> Gimp. That is showing disregard for your established user base. You
> may have good r
Hi,
On Thu, 2007-12-20 at 11:17 -0800, JC Dill wrote:
> I'm a typical "potential Gimp user". I tried to use it many years ago
> (when I first joined this list) but it couldn't meet my needs. I've
> remained interested in Gimp, and stayed on the list to lurk and learn.
> I had hope that some
Sven Neumann wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Thu, 2007-12-20 at 11:17 -0800, JC Dill wrote:
>
>
>> I'm a typical "potential Gimp user". I tried to use it many years ago
>> (when I first joined this list) but it couldn't meet my needs. I've
>> remained interested in Gimp, and stayed on the list to lurk a
On Thursday 20 December 2007 11:30:40 am Daniel Hornung wrote:
> > Actually, moving a selection in Gimp 2.4 is easier than it
> > was in 2.2. Simply left click within the selected region and
> > drag... no modifier keys needed and no need to grab the edge
> > of the selection when doing so. I just
On Thursday 20 December 2007 11:17:17 am JC Dill wrote:
> > Is there any way to restore the Alt key to its old usage in
> > 2.4? I can't drag selections anymore because it requires Alt
> > and mouse at the same time, which is a problem on Linux. How
> > do I tell Gimp to use another shift-type key
Hi,
On Thu, 2007-12-20 at 12:37 -0800, JC Dill wrote:
> Gimp was (the last time I used it) very poorly documented.
> It is very important to document not just new features but also anytime
> you change how a feature works - such as this alt-key issue.
I don't think a user manual of more than
On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 19:05:39 -, Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thursday 20 December 2007 10:26:12 am Thomas Worthington
> wrote:
>> Moving a selected region is a very common action and
>> now seems impossible under normal Linux user interfaces. I can
>> see the application of "capriciou
On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 20:37:02 -, JC Dill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> I hope that documentation is high on your list. This is one of the
> weakest parts of most open source projects. Something like a browser
> needs little documentation. Something more complex like a mail reader
> needs mo
< Big snip >
> I've seen this happen several times over my years of lurking on this
> list. I didn't call myself a "true professional" - I stated that I'm a
> professional photographer solely to give you context for my comments.
I also lurk and very occasionally make a contribution. You phot
< snip >
>
> I recommend "Beginning Gimp" by Akkana Peck, ISBN 1-59059-587-4
I fully agree.
Norman
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On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 18:08:44 -, Sven Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Thu, 2007-12-20 at 14:46 +, Thomas Worthington wrote:
>> I've just reverted to 2.2
>>
>> 2.4 has too many problems to bother with; the alt key is the final
>> straw.
>
> Sorry, but if there are problems
Hi,
On Thu, 2007-12-20 at 21:46 +, Thomas Worthington wrote:
> The alt-key is covered in other posts but the other killer problem for me
> in 2.4 is the lack of a ratio display or lock on the crop tool. I need to
> crop to a ratio a lot and a display that always reads "current" is no use.
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Hi,
On Thu, 2007-12-20 at 10:19 -0800, D.Jones (aka) Capnhud wrote:
> According the the Gimp documentation you can sort a palette. How do you do
> this?
Because
> when I right click a palette the options 9-12 are missing on a palette that I
> created
Looks like you don't have Python on your co
Scott wrote:
> On Thursday 20 December 2007 11:17:17 am JC Dill wrote:
>
>
>>> Is there any way to restore the Alt key to its old usage in
>>> 2.4? I can't drag selections anymore because it requires Alt
>>> and mouse at the same time, which is a problem on Linux. How
>>> do I tell Gimp to use a
On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 22:00:40 -, Sven Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That is actually the point where the 2.4 crop tool is a lot superior
> than the one in 2.2. Not only does it not pop up an annoying dialog as
> soon as you start to use it. It also features an entry for the aspect
> rati
JC Dill wrote:
> Perhaps you haven't been reading very carefully as I've already told you
> the #1 stopper - Gimp has no way to "record" a series of edits and then
> apply that same series of edits to other images.
This is what the following enhancement request deals with:
http://bugzilla.gnom
Thomas Worthington wrote:
> This discussion isn't going anywhere - you think 2.4 is a big improvement
> on 2.2 and I don't, is the bottom line here. I'm sure you have your
> reasons and I'm sure you think they're good reasons.
The reasons are described in detail at
http://gui.gimp.org/index.p
On Dec 21, 2007 9:04 AM, Thomas Worthington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 22:00:40 -, Sven Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > That is actually the point where the 2.4 crop tool is a lot superior
> > than the one in 2.2. Not only does it not pop up an annoying dialog as
Hi,
On Thu, 2007-12-20 at 22:34 +, Thomas Worthington wrote:
> What should the fact that you thought that was a sensible way of doing it
> make me think about you?
Actually I am responsible for most design choices in the Crop tool UI in
GIMP 2.2. Glad you like it :P
Sven
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Sven Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>That is actually the point where the 2.4 crop tool is a lot superior
>than the one in 2.2. Not only does it not pop up an annoying dialog as
>soon as you start to use it. It also features an entry for the aspect
>ratio that has a calculator built into it.
On Thursday 20 December 2007 2:34:56 pm Thomas Worthington wrote:
> What should the fact that you thought that was a sensible way
> of doing it make me think about you?
This from the guy who criticizes others for attacking the
messenger. Thomas, you're a jerk.
--
Scott
Linux user #: 246504
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JC Dill wrote:
> I can hardly be expected to know about something that hasn't been
> incorporated, or has just recently been incorporated but not widely
> announced. As I said - I'm a "potential Gimp user". I tried it several
> years ago, and I am subscribed to this list to stay abreast with
> Sven Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >You enter the desired aspect
> >ratio in the Crop tool options, like 16:9, and it will use that whenever
> >you press Shift (or lock the ratio using the check button next to the
Jeffery Small writes:
> In my 2.4.2 version running on Solaris 10/SPARC un
Geoffrey wrote:
> JC Dill wrote:
>
>> I can hardly be expected to know about something that hasn't been
>> incorporated, or has just recently been incorporated but not widely
>> announced. As I said - I'm a "potential Gimp user". I tried it several
>> years ago, and I am subscribed to this li
On Thursday 20 December 2007 2:20:36 pm JC Dill wrote:
> >>> Is there any way to restore the Alt key to its old usage
> >>> in 2.4? I can't drag selections anymore because it
> >>> requires Alt and mouse at the same time, which is a
> >>> problem on Linux. How do I tell Gimp to use another
> >>> s
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>
>
>
> My name is Vicky and looking enjoying playing with Gimp. I like to
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Jeffery Small writes:
> In my 2.4.2 version running on Solaris 10/SPARC under gnome, the check-box
> does lock the crop aspect ratio. But if the check box is not selected, no
> key, including shift, seems to lock the aspect ratio
Akkana Peck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>For me (on Linux), Shif
> You are describing what 2.2 does for me. 2.4 simply dragged the selected
> region, NOT its contents.
>
>
At the top of HTML help pages, you have a "Revision date" and you can
see that Moving Selection has not been updated yet.
In Gimp 2.4, you move the selection outline.
To move the select
Is there a plugin (or high speed script-fu) that would allow me to enter
a math expression and from it create the pixel data also given a
'viewport range'.
XMin: -1
XMax 1
YMin -1
Ymax: 1
UseGraient: no
Expr: red=sin(2*pi*x*y)/2+0.5;green=...,...
or
UseGradient: yes
Expr: offset=sin(2*pi*x*y)
Hi julien,
On Dec 21, 2007 4:22 PM, julien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > You are describing what 2.2 does for me. 2.4 simply dragged the selected
> > region, NOT its contents.
> >
> >
> At the top of HTML help pages, you have a "Revision date" and you can
> see that Moving Selection has not bee
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