RE: [lace] Moving lace

2003-07-21 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Merlene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] When Antje talks about moving the lace she is unpinning the lace off of the pattern and moving it to the top of the same pattern. The pattern does not move. When most of us talk about moving the lace we are putting the felt or styrofoam under the last inch

[lace] Buckeye Bobbins lace day

2003-07-21 Thread Panza, Robin
Yesterday was the 10th annual lace day/tea by Buckeye Bobbins in northeastern Ohio (USA). It was the first one I attended, and I have to say I had a grand time. Thanks, Ginny and all your co-workers and assistants! After a bit of delay getting the key to the Arts Center, we quickly made up for

RE: [lace] Beds leaves

2003-07-22 Thread Panza, Robin
Pushing the pins down and/or covering them with a cloth are the methods I'd use to prevent snags. Many teachers tell you to bring several cover cloths for over the pins/worked areas. Personally, I like to see my work--I admire what I've done while adding to it--so I like to use a clear plastic

RE: [lace] Engineering Felt

2003-07-23 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Ruth Budge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sue, can you describe what engineering felt looks like? I use something called gasket paper for making my prickings - and I'm wondering if that's what you're talking about. I have something called Industrial Felt, which I think is the same thing as

RE: [lace] Re: my favorite old lace/raised tallies

2003-07-25 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Tamara P. Duvall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Since I make all my lace wrong side up (even the Russian which is traditionally worked right side up), that includes tallies -- both the plain raised (leaf overlay, as I tend to think of them) and the raised and rolled ones. I would think tallies

RE: [lace] Punto fiandra

2003-07-31 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Nicole Gauthier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are right, Tamara, Punto Fiandra di Gorizia is not Flanders. They call the flander stitch the ribbon formed with 3 pairs of bobbins. In Maltese lace there's a stitch called Punto Inglizi (spelling approximate), or English stitch. Not like

RE: [lace] Re: monetary conversion and relative values

2003-08-01 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Brenda Paternoster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Food used to account for a huge part of an ordinary worker's income, but housing was relatively cheap. Nowadays we expect cheap basic foods but accept that housing costs a great deal, especially for the younger My favorite illustration of how

RE: [lace] Re: Ancient lace bobbins on ebay

2003-08-20 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Tamara P. Duvall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] They're not old, vintage or antique, but Ancient turned wood lace pillow bobbin. After nearly a week of living with people of 4 generations I've learnt that what's ancient to one person, is my (teen) mother to another... Applies, in spades, to the

RE: [lace] washing dingy lace, quick fix

2003-08-21 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Bev Walker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Depending on the lace, you can allow it to dry on a clean metal surface (place it dripping wet and at a slight angle to let the water drain away, it should dry reasonably flat on the metal surface). I would recommend glass instead of metal. The effect

RE: [lace] English translations

2003-08-21 Thread Panza, Robin
How many of our English speaking countries publish catalogues or any other work in German, French, Italian or any language other than our own? And how many of us have learned another language? We rather arrogantly expect everyone else to learn English and pander to us. Speaking only for

RE: [lace] pin-headed bobbin (was: bobbin on ebay - alleviating ? )

2003-08-25 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Toni Hawryluk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] strength to the relatively fragile part, like steel rebar in pre-stressed if the pin was put in after it splinter the neck of the bobbin? Either way - suppose the bobbin blank were to be soaked in water or oil, You're still trying to make two

RE: [lace] lace frog and Paris before Binche? (very long)

2003-08-26 Thread Panza, Robin
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Does one have to master a certain kind of lace before beeing allowed to start with another? There was the question of Paris before Binche some digests ago. That is the basic question, and there are two aspects to the answer. The first aspect has

RE: [lace] Miss Channer/enforcement issues

2003-08-28 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Bev Walker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I prefer to make my original designs available through lace magazines, for the price of buying the magazine. OK, we've been exploring copyright law through the hypothetical example of Miss Channer's mat. And Vivienne, I do believe most of the messages

RE: [lace] Wright's book, copyright etc

2003-08-28 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Brenda Paternoster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On the subject of Miss Channer's mat; copyright is the right to exactly reproduce. I believe that if you own a worked mat (from a purchased pricking), and then re-drew it from scratch using a suitable grid you would own the copyright on the new

RE: [lace] confused about thread

2003-08-29 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Whitham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I went to my thread collection and found linen Goldchilds Nel 80/3, Nm 50/3, which at first I thought I could use until I decided that the B meant bomuld (cotton). Now I am really confused. Why the 2 numbers on the thread? Are linen and cotton threads

[lace] Kathy Kaufmann?

2003-09-05 Thread Panza, Robin
Does anybody have an email address for Kathy Kaufmann, the registrar for the Finger Lakes Lace Guild Lace Day? Robin Robin K Panza Section of Birds, Carnegie Museum of Natural History 4400 Forbes Ave. Pittsburgh PA 15213 USA phone: 412-622-3255 fax: 412-622-8837 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To

[lace] RE: publicity

2003-09-09 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Tamara P. Duvall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] If the craft -- as in Mensa of the craft world -- is so odious, how about Mensa of the Applied Arts instead? Jay Ekers kindly resurrected the term for me (it'd gotten lost in memory) but Applied arts would be the term that a book (at any rate, a

RE: [lace] Why we do this - was Publicity

2003-09-09 Thread Panza, Robin
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 1) Present - it was just right for the person 2) Technical achievement - 'that looks like fun' theory of lace making. I'd add: 3) Beauty - oh, that's so lovely, I have to make it! Robin P. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, USA

RE: [lace] Publicity

2003-09-09 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Jean Nathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't know the best way of publicising, because 'lacemaking' doesn't only cover bobbin lace. People need to know that (bobbin lace at least - I'll never master tatting) is accessible to all at different levels from a simple braid to complex work like

RE: [lace] Re: Thinking person's lace - what about Binche?

2003-09-10 Thread Panza, Robin
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] you know when you are demonstrating and someone says 'how do you know what to do' this is how I explain it - you work a bit, run out of bobbins so you work the bit you need to give you the bobbins. The way I explain it is that I look for pinholes

RE: [lace] amateur lacemakers

2003-09-11 Thread Panza, Robin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm more insulted by the term 'amateur lacemakers' - if they mean that I don't get paid then that is only true if we mean in money and I don't charge because no one could afford to pay me. I'm perfectly happy to be called amateur. I make no effort whatsoever to earn a

RE: [lace] progression from the copyright discussion

2003-09-12 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Jane Partridge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] But maybe there are ways we could make it easier for those who wish to obtain a legal copy to identify who designed the pattern in the first place? (And I know I'm a terror for often simply putting JP or JMP and the year on my patterns!). Well, if

RE: [lace] Price of everything - value of nothing

2003-09-15 Thread Panza, Robin
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] People ask to buy an article at which you may have sat and worked 100 hours. I consider I am worth as a fairly skilled lacemaker at least 10 to 15 GB pounds per hour. So that would make the piece in labour costs at least 1000 GBP. No-one would

RE: Re: [lace] Irish lace

2003-09-25 Thread Panza, Robin
I found a brief description here: http://www.irishlacemuseum.com/inishmacsaint.html Wow! It's beautiful! It's reminiscent of Venetian Gros Point, with similar florals and padded sections. I had no idea Ireland, which has other lovely laces, also had this. Thanks for the info! Robin P.

RE: [lace] Working with silk thread

2003-09-25 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Annette Gill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Can anyone tell me if silk is difficult to work with? I'm a beginner and was wondering if it's slippery or difficult to control. Which type of silk works best - spun, floss, filament? In my opinion, silk is no harder to use than linen and cotton.

RE: [lace] Working with silk thread

2003-09-25 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Patricia Dowden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Also, I have since discovered bug pins which would have made the whole process much, much easier. The bug pins are small enough that I would not have had the thread pinching problem. One warning with insect pins--you *must* pre-prick your pattern.

RE: [lace] Is Lace Declining? - Can anybody help?

2003-09-30 Thread Panza, Robin
For a long time it has been very difficult for a girl to express a wish to do anything feminine. It has been OK if girls want to fly down mountain cliffs at 60 miles an hour on a bicycle, but absolutely not OK if they want to learn to crochet. The fortunate flip side of this is that boys are

RE: [lace] Is Lace Declining? - Can anybody help?

2003-10-02 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Janice Blair [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Now that's a thought... I have two travel pillows that pack up like a small bag and fit into tote bags but how about someone coming up with a backpack design that you can just zip open and get on with your lace!! I saw one (Sonja, are you still on

RE: [lace] numbers

2003-10-02 Thread Panza, Robin
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The walk-in, store front option for lace vendors is one that they don't seem to take advantage of in America to any large extent. Is there even one vendor with a store front and regular hours? Yes, there is at least. The Lacemaker, in Warren,

RE: [lace] Liz's horseshoe thingie

2003-10-02 Thread Panza, Robin
From: W N Lafferty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I have incorporated one of my old macrame rings (I knew I'd find a use for them eventually) into my drawcloth. What a neat idea! However, I still prefer the kind we got in a workshop from Judy Zeiss. It's a clear vinyl circle with a small circle

RE: [lace] Liz's horseshoe thingie

2003-10-02 Thread Panza, Robin
I couldn't see the clear and pinned right on through it. You would think I would notice that the vinyl wasn't pricked -- Oh well. B-D ! They do make colored transparent vinyl. My friend has rose. She can still see the design taking shape, but there's no mistaking where the cover is! The one

RE: [lace] Re: Men making Lace

2003-10-03 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Tamara P. Duvall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] What a sensible man Iain Biggins must be! Good on Him, I say! Iain is not the only one.. Kenn Van Dieren (our own g) has also learnt And don't forget that we have male Arachneans! Some may be strictly bobbin people, but others are lacemakers.

RE: [lace] Liz's horseshoe thingie

2003-10-03 Thread Panza, Robin
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The pattern on my blog is one that takes up the entirity of my 24 pillow and moves really quickly - so it posed the problem of having to keep undoing and moving the acetate. That's another advantage of the vinyl circle over cover cloths or

RE: [lace] Hookies

2003-10-03 Thread Panza, Robin
1. Lenka Suchanek makes/sells bobbins for use with wire. They are the size of travel bobbins (e.g., a good bit shorter than average) with a metal eye screwed into the tip. I haven't used them, so can't comment on them. However, they are designed specifically for wire. The others, I believe,

RE: [lace] 3-D edges

2003-10-17 Thread Panza, Robin
I like to come up with ideas I have not seen yet, (I don't pretend to know everything about all the laces so someone might have done that before), but I am not sure how the lace community feels about innovation. Well, the Milanese Lace Police can say it's not Milanese if you have an innovation,

RE: [lace] Re: PIns

2003-10-20 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Tamara P. Duvall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] years ago, and ex-Arachnean (Penny Boston), who studied microbe life in deep caves for NASA, took some pins with her and left them in one of the caves, to see what effect constantly damp and chilly environment would have on them. As I remember

RE: [lace] Re: Flanders Lace by Mary Niven

2003-10-21 Thread Panza, Robin
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes, Mary's book is excellent. The first and possibly the only book devoted to Flanders Lace, it was originally published by a subsidiary of Batsford's and has been out of print for a long time. However, I understood that the firm that bought out

FW: [lace] Looking For An Address

2003-10-21 Thread Panza, Robin
Kathy's email is [EMAIL PROTECTED] but I don't know that she has a catalog. Robin P. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, USA http://www.pittsburghlace.8m.com -Original Message- Can anyone give me the address for Shirley Gates Kathy Kirchner? I'd like to get a catalog from

RE: [lace] Springetts and Fountains etc

2003-10-24 Thread Panza, Robin
Christine and David Springett used to have a lace supplier business. She also designed patterns and taught, and he also turned bobbins. They ran a lace school (English Lace College, or something like that) and made videos, too. A few years ago, they sold off the lace supplier business, to

RE: [lace] a new Arachnid from Italy

2003-10-24 Thread Panza, Robin
From: bianca rosa bellomo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Bianca, a new Arachnid from Italy.. Hope to be useful in some way. My field is needle lace but Im not an expert. Studying needle lace (Aemilia Ars in Bologna) I met Elisa Ricci and now the life of E.R and obviously lace history in the first

RE: [lace] Fw:

2003-10-24 Thread Panza, Robin
Wow! 1,000 pieces of bobbin lace from all over former Soviet Union? Sounds like a spectacular exhibit. I wish I could go. Maybe some European Arachneans will be able to see it and report back to us. I think static may mean permanent, as opposed to a temporary or travelling exhibit. Robin P.

RE: [lace] CT and TC

2003-10-27 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Lorelei Halley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] All British lacemakers (as far as I can tell) do half stitch CT. Most, but no all, western Europeans do it CT. Most, but not all, central Europeans do it TC. Nearly all eastern Europeans to it TC. I took a Skansk (Sweden) workshop from Marji Suhm

RE: [lace] Re: CT and TC

2003-10-28 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Tamara P. Duvall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] It can be applied to passing the gimp (though I still tend to lift the left, except when in Flanders) For me, passing gimp is always Twist Cross (plus whatever twists you want to put on the pair before and after the passing). The phrase lift the

RE: [lace] 40 BOBBIN LACE HANKIES FOR THE LOW PRICE

2003-10-28 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Helen Crews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 'thought you might like to see this. Don't know how they got my address, but here it is. Well, their bobbins are certainly inexpensive! They're very much like the antique French bobbins that were on eBay a few months ago--stout. The various designs

RE: [lace] Roller pillows in the UK

2003-11-03 Thread Panza, Robin
Pat Hallam (Roseground) makes a travel pillow. Does it have a roller? Robin P. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, USA http://www.pittsburghlace.8m.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I think that Rosemarie Robinson may do one - you can pick

RE: [lace] Slave-driving teachers

2003-11-05 Thread Panza, Robin
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] This is the same problem that we, in the UK have been moaning about for ages. The hours of worm bandages that have to be made before you are considered acceptable to move on to Torchon, then years of Torchon before beds etc. I have this argument

RE: [lace] Dissertation

2003-11-05 Thread Panza, Robin
There's going to be a fair bit of duplication by adding membership of many lace groups. Many of my friends belong to more than one local group, because that gives them access to more teachers/workshops/lace days or because they like the newsletter, and many belong to groups (local or national)

RE: [lace] Colour codes

2003-11-06 Thread Panza, Robin
I'm getting better at interpreting diagrams. Great, because there are a whole lot more patterns with diagrams than with verbal instructions. The sooner you can get comfortable with the diagrams, the sooner the whole world of bobbin lace opens to you. Then you will graduate to the patterns with

RE: [lace] Re: Twist and Turn

2003-11-07 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Jane K. Griffin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Perhaps using a lower cast t' for turn and an upper case T for twist? somewhat like writing out receipes using t for teaspoon and T for tablespoon. Or use the US Postal Service's strategy when making state abbreviations. Use the last letter if the

RE: [lace] Twist and turn

2003-11-10 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Tamara P. Duvall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I had some problems deciphering that (could be because I'm not a native speaker, and have to *stop and think* what the last letter of a word might be)... No, just straight memorization. C= 2 over 3; N= 2 and 4 over 1 and 2. You don't need to

RE: [lace] a case against colour coding

2003-11-10 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Bev Walker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] While colour coding might simplify matters for some, it complicates for others. And woe is the colour blind ;) That worried me, too. We'd be shutting a chunk of people out of lacemaking if all our patterns stuck to a color code. Add to that the

RE: [lace] Re: a case against colour coding

2003-11-10 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Tamara P. Duvall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] an otherwise innocent honeycomb hole will have a CTCTT, instead of the CTT before the first pin (afterwards, it's business as usual)... An all black diagram -- unless it's a *thread by thread* one (and, personally, I don't wanna go there g) will

RE: [lace] Cross Twist

2003-11-11 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Janis Savage [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Cross Twist were denoted as X OIt makes a very neat shorthand when taking down notes or explaining how to do a stitch. It's all a matter of what works for the *notetaker*. For me, X would forever be confused--is that a right-over-left X or a

RE: [lace] Re: lace-digest V1 #3852

2003-11-11 Thread Panza, Robin
Females can be color blind too. It is not as commen, but a female friend of mine can only sees everything in shades of brown. Tamara, you've been bemoaning the difficulty of using many colors, because you have trouble distinguishing among them. Yet you also say not to worry about the

RE: [lace] comfort

2003-11-17 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Steph Peters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Put a glass of water in reach of where you sit to make lace (but not where it could be spilled on the lace). Make an effort to remember to drink now and then. I use a soda bottle that has a screw-on lid. Granted, mine usually has soda in it, which is

RE: [lace] Spangle Question

2003-11-18 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Shirlee Hill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm thinking the answer might be do whatever makes you happy, but I'm wondering if there should be a certain weight to the spangle or if the weight matters at all ... Weight does matter somewhat. Fine threads can be stressed by heavy bobbins, and

RE: [lace] Spangle Question

2003-11-19 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Aurelia L. Loveman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Oh, I can't agree with you, Robin, that Christine Springett's spangles are loose and floppy. I have dozens of her bobbins, and they are perfect. If there were anything the matter with them (and there isn't), it would only be that we amateur

RE: [lace] Admin: Digests and subscription help

2003-11-20 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Avital Pinnick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Then I can send the commands directly to majordomo, instead of having to download the latest subscription lists for a look or guessing at the various permutations and hoping that one of them will work. And most subscription changes we can do

RE: [lace] Re: Thread question

2003-11-25 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Tamara P. Duvall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you like making lace, you might as well bite the bullet and make the best investment of your life; buy Brenda Paternoster's booklet Threads for Lace; edition 2 Many of the US lace suppliers have carried the first edition of Brenda's book, so

RE: [lace] another new person

2003-12-03 Thread Panza, Robin
Welcome newbies, one and all! There's no proficiency requirement for membership, just a love of lace in any of its forms. By all means, ask questions (how else will you learn?) and post opinions and answers when you have them. Robin P. Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, USA -Original Message-

RE: [lace] Re: Cornered Waterlily

2003-12-08 Thread Panza, Robin
It's not that *corners* are all that modern an invention, just corners for lace made on *non-square grids*. Corners are not as old as the oldest laces, but corners on the laces that could be easily turned do go back a ways. Modern (last 50 years) lacemakers have designed corners for many of the

RE: [lace] Working on the right/wrong side

2003-12-11 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Tamara P. Duvall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] But what if, instead of lifting the left, I were to raise the right? The number of twists before and after might need to be adjusted, of course, but, would it flip the lace so that one'd be facing the wrong side (flatter gimp) instead of the right?

RE: [lace] Re: famous lacemakers

2003-12-15 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Tamara P. Duvall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Some of the men associated with lacemaking were designers, and one of them (Thomas Lester) could be considered famous, if only in lacemaking circles... One thing nobody's mentioned yet--in those days, it was rare for a woman to own a company or

RE: [lace] Strangled Picots

2003-12-15 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Patricia Dowden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] How do you all make nice graceful picots? Single thread, double thread, Flanders? Would a larger pin make a better picot? Sigh . . . Some people do use a larger (sometimes, much larger) pin, or two pins. Robin P. Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, USA

RE: [lace] Re: Pricking on the pillow

2004-01-05 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Tamara P. Duvall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You don't view yor pricking from the same angle when you prick on a corkboard set flat on a table and when you prick on a pillow; you're less likely to be *accurate* when pricking on a pillow. I'm not convinced this is necessarily so. May vary

RE: [lace] Re: Pricking on the pillow

2004-01-06 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Karen Butler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Similarly, the inexpensive polystyrene pillow I bought to try Honiton developed a hole in the centre. It is still usable, with pieces of green baize packing the hole, but as I've since bought a traditional Honiton pillow, it is only used

RE: [lace] Re: Pricking on the pillow

2004-01-07 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Bev Walker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm all for labour-saving steps - I seldom pre-prick a pattern, but if I do, it is when the pricking is in place on the pillow. There are times it becomes pretty important. For example, I find it very hard to get pins accurately placed on roller

RE: [lace] ...and ? about Maltese lace

2004-01-08 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Celtic Dream Weaver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Since I now have this pair of bobbins a thought occurred to me...I don't think I have run across any patterns for Maltese lace. Have I been blind or what...did I miss something over the past few years That was me sitting next to you,

RE: [lace] Item on E-bay

2004-01-09 Thread Panza, Robin
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2586669105category=39445 In the description it says that it is very likely from the Island of Malta. It may well be from the island of Malta. There are many lacemakers on Malta who do not make Maltese lace. A couple of years ago, there was a

RE: [lace] eBay bobbins

2004-01-12 Thread Panza, Robin
Ah, this guy is back, or it looks like it's the same guy. Be warned, he uses the same photo every time he lists bobbins, and you don't necessarily get the same assortment as in the photo. You do get 10 assorted antique French bobbins, and the photo is representative of the shapes and sizes,

RE: [lace] Re: Big finishing for lace project

2004-01-12 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Viv Dewar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd ask the framer to use non-reflective glass too. (I've never framed lace, but that's what I used in pre-BL days for cross stitch). It cuts out some of the glare IMO is worth the extra cost Personally, I don't like non-glare glass. It's got a tiny bit

RE: [lace] lace pattern with hearts

2004-01-14 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I have tried to create the pattern myself from a pattern that I found for a round doily but I have not been able to create the corners. Now, I am running out of time and need to find a pattern. If you like that pattern, use it without fabricated corners.

RE: [lace] Luton Lace Treasury Vol 1

2004-01-14 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Sue Babbs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The patterns are stunning, and the prickings and diagrams are so clear. The lace is so beautifully worked. I haven't seen the book yet, but I know from Sally's contributions to the NELG newsletter that yes, she makes excellent prickings and diagrams.

RE: [lace] Travelling with Pillows

2004-01-14 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Carol Adkinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] It looks like an over-large brick, on its end, and opens out so that the actual apron bit (where the bobbins actually sit whilst work is in progress) is larger than an 18 pillow would be. I have one of these SMP travel pillows and really like it.

[lace] RE: teaching stitches (was: lacey weekend)

2004-01-14 Thread Panza, Robin
when teaching the basing 3 stitches (half/CT;whole/cloth/CTC; double half/CTCT), which is the easier route to go, when it comes to teaching half and double half? Ie which one is easier to learn first? So many people are intimidated by half stitch, that I'd save it for last. It's so easy to

[lace] RE: Convention planning

2004-01-20 Thread Panza, Robin
One thing that was useful when planning an ornithological convention was that the organization kept a set of files that were passed from one local committee to the next. It included budgets (including who you got quotes from), what you decided to do (and, generally, why), and a post-event

RE: [lace] Modify an old pattern to a new pattern

2004-01-20 Thread Panza, Robin
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I would like to reproduce this edging in a circular format. How might I go about doing that? It's reasonably easy to copy the design onto polar coordinate graph paper. This is graph paper arranged in a circle, so the vertical lines of the

RE: [lace] Dover winter sale

2004-01-21 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Tamara P. Duvall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Only one lace book listed, but it's an interesting one for those who like to design or meddle with existing patterns... http://www.doverpublications.com/winter_sale/ws_nc.html Personally, I consider Cook and Stott's Book of Bobbin Lace Stitches

RE: [lace] IOLI Convention

2004-01-22 Thread Panza, Robin
The bit I liked best about this one is Robin's confidence that the first piece of lace will be finished, leaving the pillow and bobbins free for the second class. Oh, that's hilarious! I've been crowned Queen of Unfinished Projects! Last time I finished something (other than a gift), my

RE: [lace] Oya book on eBay

2004-01-23 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Avital Pinnick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I didn't realise that there were so many ways of making beaded oya. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=3582414435ssPageName=ADM E:B:SS:US:1 I bought another book from this dealer (elfocan) and one from another Turkish dealer. The

RE: [lace] Gimps

2004-02-04 Thread Panza, Robin
From: W N Lafferty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] nothing suitable (thick enough) for the two single gimps (I figured I'd need Perle 5 for effect). So I would up pairs of bobbins with Perle 8 in aqua, and instead of passing the threads over the gimp, I passed the linen threads through the pair of

RE: [lace] Preserving Old Books

2004-02-05 Thread Panza, Robin
I started to send this directly to Linda, but decided to send to the list. While this is not lace, conserving old patterns and books is pretty darn close and I've included the addresses of archival suppliers that can be useful for supplies to preserve old lace, too. I am *NOT* a paper

RE: [lace] Preserving Old Books

2004-02-05 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Carolyn Hastings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Second, I learned at a workshop presented by Archival Products that there are a number of the plastic pockets on the market that are marked archival that aren't, at all. As far as I could tell, about the only way to distinguish was to purchase

RE: [lace] I need a new magazine subscription

2004-02-06 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Jean Nathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] What about 'Lace Express'? It's expensive (62 euros, 43 pounds 40 pence) for 4 issues (April, July, October and January) and available through either Germany or Canada. I just went to their site and it said a year (even 2004) was 52 euros (65.85

RE: [lace] Re: eastern US suppliers and plastic

2004-02-09 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Tamara P. Duvall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Lacemakerhttp://www.lacemakerusa.com/ Mmm... Neither Holly nor Susan take plastic -- aka credit cards (don't know about Tracy at the Lacemaker) Tracy takes plastic in her store, so I assume she takes plastic over the internet. Robin

RE: [lace] Buffing NL.

2004-02-13 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Elizabeth Ligeti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I have never buffed my NL, and wonder if it really makes very much difference. Do you only buff the raised work, or the fillings, too? I've never heard of buffing the lace, although I admit I'm not deeply into NL. I would never think of rubbing

RE: [lace] Twined gimps

2004-02-24 Thread Panza, Robin
From: W N Lafferty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Just tried out the twined gimps with metallic thread on a linen bookmark (leftovers from the Seashore edge) and it works a treat, makes the metallic really stand out well. I really can't understand why it's not a basic component of Torchon. And yes,

RE: [lace] Fwd: WHITAKER VINTAGE AUCTION 3-24 3-25

2004-02-24 Thread Panza, Robin
Wow, that's some spectacular collection of textiles. Jane Viking Swanson, check out the Blattenburg coat. There are some nice lace yardages and lace- and lace-trimmed garments to drool over, too. And a calf-length Irish crochet coat. Anyone who hasn't gone to see, check it out! Robin P.

RE: [lace] Romanian Point Lace patterns

2004-03-08 Thread Panza, Robin
Since the Battenberg-style tapes are flat, it's easy to cross them. Crossing the round Romanian cords would create an unsightly (to me) bulge. It may not be a rule of the lace, but it would certainly be ugly to my eye. However, many Battenberg-style patterns that have loops in them can be made by

[lace] Avital? Are you there?

2004-03-08 Thread Panza, Robin
Sorry to send this to the whole list, but I don't have Avital's address. I just got a virus report on a message that claims to come from Arachne. The virus was Netsky. I don't know if this is one of those viruses that puts a bogus address on the message, but thought I should report it, just in

RE: [lace] The Professor's site

2004-03-10 Thread Panza, Robin
Tess, those CDs are such a spectacular resource and the price is so low as to be the bargain of the century! If you have to raise the price for better packaging, there isn't anyone who can object. At twice the price they'd still be a great deal, in order to get those priceless treasures into our

RE: [lace] shawl

2004-03-11 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Lorelei Halley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The only problem is in making modified equipment large enough to handle the pattern and threadsOrdinary bobbins don't have enough storage space for such thick yarn. A friend made a shawl using fingering-weight yarn. She used spring-type

RE: [lace] Workshop versus class/course

2004-03-16 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Linda Greyling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Taking a workshop class or course we expect to learn, but what does the different names suggest . Does it influence your choice? Should the name reflect the content? I think of a workshop as being short-term; an hour, a day, at most a weekend.

RE: [lace] making a roller

2004-03-30 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Ann-Marie Lördal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] How did you attach it to the pillow? I have been suggested to hold it down with velcro (I was thinking of using drain pipe holders, dressed in fabric, and put them at an angle in the hole for the original roller :-)) but velcro sounds better. I

RE: [lace] Cow and calf bobbins

2004-03-30 Thread Panza, Robin
Cow and a calf. Or mother and babe. Those are bobbins (always Midlands, I think) which are carved/turned in such a way that a larger one will carry, within itself, a really tiny (no more than 3/4-1) one. I have a couple of these lovely old bobbins, but they are not spangled as Midlands bobbins

RE: [lace] filet/lacis

2004-03-31 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Vasna Zago [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] A friend and I are trying to figure out all the differences between filet and lacis. Are they the same kind of lace? What is filet crochet and how is that different? Filet crochet is definitely different from filet/lacis. It uses chain-stitch to

RE: [lace] Turkish Lacemaking

2004-03-31 Thread Panza, Robin
Much of the oya is (or at least was) knotted needlelace, although modern books show crocheted and tatted flowers, too. If you enlarge the bottom photo in that article, the pink flower is knotted (Armenian) needlelace while the top photo looks like all crocheted. Robin P. Pittsburgh,

RE: [lace] Thread opinions wanted

2004-04-05 Thread Panza, Robin
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] one strand of DMC embroidery floss, the worst choice as everybody knows, and a dreadful no-no for lacemakersSo what, what, what, dear Arachnes, is the forbidding edict against floss all about? I've never heard any forbidding edict against

RE: [lace] New IOLI Bulletin

2004-04-06 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Jane Viking Swanson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I won't spill all the secrets of the new IOLI Bulletin but I have to mention the incredible BL crab on the cover. It's by Elizabeth MacDonald of Pennsylvania and the colors are incredible!!! Some of you will remember reports to arachne a few

RE: [lace] Thread question

2004-04-07 Thread Panza, Robin
I've never bought the S/Z causing unwinding, but I think I can answer your question anyway. Take a piece of thread (yarn would be easier). Hold it vertically--is it S or Z? Now turn it over (put the other hand above). It's still the same twist direction. So wind one end onto a bobbin. Then

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