Re: [lace-chat] Re: Katrina devastaion

2005-09-30 Thread Weronika Patena
for survival. Also, Poland hasn't been communist since 1989. And Russia since 1991 or so? The only communist countries in the world now are I think China, Cuba, Laos, North Korea, Vietnam. Weronika -- Weronika Patena Stanford, CA, USA http://vole.stanford.edu/weronika To unsubscribe send email

Re: [lace-chat] Re: coffee and tea preferences

2005-09-22 Thread Weronika Patena
me lots of sticky candy with it. When I was a kid, my mom said I'm a freak because I won't drink tea... Everyone else in my family does. I like water, milk, hot chocolate, and random soft drinks. Ah, and Thai ice tea, but I don't think that counts. Weronika -- Weronika Patena Stanford, CA

Re: [lace-chat] Re: Language Evolution

2005-09-02 Thread Weronika Patena
me an example (granted, texting is almost allien to him too, since he's 28 g), it left me totally baffled. All I'd want to learn how to text is: duh? What is texting? Weronika -- Weronika Patena Stanford, CA, USA http://vole.stanford.edu/weronika To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL

Re: [lace-chat] fwd: It may save...

2005-08-23 Thread Weronika Patena
Bev in Sooke, BC (on Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) Cdn. floral bobbins www.woodhavenbobbins.com To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Weronika Patena Stanford, CA, USA http

Re: [lace-chat] .......And flying things

2005-08-09 Thread Weronika Patena
inflicting pain on herself! -- Weronika Patena Stanford, CA, USA http://vole.stanford.edu/weronika To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [lace-chat] Re: ......And flying things

2005-08-09 Thread Weronika Patena
wife part!! VBG It really is continuously amazing how well we fit together, Tamara. Weronika -- Weronika Patena Stanford, CA, USA http://vole.stanford.edu/weronika To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write

[lace-chat] I completely forgot to tell you all about my wedding!!

2005-07-22 Thread Weronika Patena
after the summer. Life is good. Weronika -- Weronika Patena Stanford, CA, USA http://vole.stanford.edu/weronika To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [lace-chat] French: was: [lace] Re: Query

2005-04-29 Thread Weronika Patena
. There is some German, too, unsurprisingly. And I'm sure there are lots of influences from other Slavic languages, but these are hard to pick out. Ah, and Italian, too, from when one of our kings married an Italian woman and she introduced things like cauliflower ;-) Weronika -- Weronika

Re: [lace-chat] Re: Whither US?

2005-02-07 Thread Weronika Patena
On Fri, Feb 04, 2005 at 11:30:13PM -0500, Tamara P. Duvall wrote: On Feb 3, 2005, at 1:01, Weronika Patena wrote: This is the first thing I've ever heard that I could seriously apply the adjective mind-boggling to... Really scary, too. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4225013.stm

Re: [lace-chat] Re: Whither US?

2005-02-07 Thread Weronika Patena
, we did know our history (and its bizarre turns), while Americans don't seem to care about past lessons... :( Their history doesn't seem to be nearly as painful, so it's probably harder to remember. Weronika -- Weronika Patena Caltech, Pasadena, CA, USA http

Re: [lace-chat] Whither US?

2005-02-02 Thread Weronika Patena
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[lace-chat] German Amazon order translation - help!

2005-01-05 Thread Weronika Patena
versandt werden. Sie konnen entweder die Versandadresse andern oder den Artikel aus Ihrer Bestellung loschen, indem Sie seine Stuckzahl auf 0 setzen und dann den Aktualisierungsbutton unten anklicken. What does that mean?? Weronika -- Weronika Patena Caltech, Pasadena, CA

[lace-chat] German Amazon purchase - need go-between

2005-01-05 Thread Weronika Patena
a good method of transfering small amounts of money between countries is - maybe PayPal?). Weronika -- Weronika Patena Caltech, Pasadena, CA, USA http://vole.stanford.edu/weronika To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL

Re: [lace-chat] measuring a child's coat

2004-12-18 Thread Weronika Patena
I did... g Weronika -- Weronika Patena Caltech, Pasadena, CA, USA http://vole.stanford.edu/weronika To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [lace-chat] Re: Lace and fairy tale

2004-12-17 Thread Weronika Patena
... And the girl had to make the shirts out of nettles at night at a graveyard. And there were additional gruesome effects, I think, but I don't remember. The fact that those used to be stories for children tells you something about how life must have been then... Weronika -- Weronika Patena

Re: [lace-chat] measuring a child's coat

2004-12-17 Thread Weronika Patena
: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Weronika Patena Caltech, Pasadena, CA, USA http://vole.stanford.edu/weronika To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help

Re: [lace-chat] measuring a child's coat

2004-12-17 Thread Weronika Patena
) - Original Message - From: Weronika Patena [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ruth Budge [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2004 1:19 PM Subject: Re: [lace-chat] measuring a child's coat I never minded feeling like a child (I was the I never want to grow up

Re: [lace-chat] Thanksgiving (was Christmas of old)

2004-12-01 Thread Weronika Patena
to church G. A subtle reminder that the same star announced the gift to mankind of the baby Jesus (if one's beliefs go that way). Nevertheless, the gifts were dropped off under the tree, not under a stable trough... :) Is that a custom anywhere?? Weronika -- Weronika Patena

Re: [lace-chat] Fw: The LITTLE Things

2004-11-27 Thread Weronika Patena
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Re: [lace-chat] Black Squirrels

2004-10-24 Thread Weronika Patena
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Re: [lace-chat] celebrations

2004-09-16 Thread Weronika Patena
that, and then asked me to marry him, he sure wouldn't get a yes. He has been lay-bying the ring for 6 months. I can't wait to see it. What's lay-bying? Weronika -- Weronika Patena Caltech, Pasadena, CA, USA http://vole.stanford.edu/weronika To unsubscribe send email

Re: [lace-chat] :-) I'm Older 'n Dirt

2004-08-28 Thread Weronika Patena
in a bit each week until there was enough money on the card to pay for a pair of shoes or whatever the shop sold. I am Older 'n Dirt!! -- Weronika Patena Caltech, Pasadena, CA, USA http://vole.stanford.edu/weronika To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [lace-chat] Civics/Citizen education

2004-08-09 Thread Weronika Patena
I lived in Poland up to the end of high school. We did have citizenship education, but nobody took it seriously - that was the class we used to play games under the table or do homework for other classes. It was pretty boring, too. I'm not sure how true that really is, but it seems to me

Re: [lace-chat] Civics/Citizen education

2004-08-09 Thread Weronika Patena
It is illegal not to vote in Australian elections, if your name is on the electoral role and is not crossed off at the election then you get fined. Someone tried to publicise some way of making a stand against the compulsory voting without the possibility of getting fined - they got fined for

Re: [lace-chat] RE: civics/citizenship

2004-08-09 Thread Weronika Patena
I know that my kids recite the Pledge of Allegiance each day at school - they're going into 3rd grade and 1st grade. They both had to learn the Pledge in preschool, to recite at their Pre-K graduation. I'm not sure that it makes you a better citizen, but it does make you aware of your

Re: [lace-chat] Eyrope in a wheelchair

2004-06-09 Thread Weronika Patena
Where do they proprose to wash? Presumably in public toilets - good luck to them - I wouldn't. They'll need good street maps to show the location of them. In Poole (and I think this is a case in a lot of towns), public toilets have been closed because of the filthy state they get in, drug

[lace-chat] Re: Europe in a wheelchair

2004-06-07 Thread Weronika Patena
Well, she'll have a brother with her most of the time. And I'm not sure how dangerous sleeping in random places really is - I've done quite a lot in Warsaw, which is not supposed to be a very safe city, and I've never had any trouble. Plus, the stories are so much better g Weronika On Mon, Jun

[lace-chat] Re: swivel windows

2004-06-07 Thread Weronika Patena
On Mon, Jun 07, 2004 at 05:59:02PM +1000, Helene Gannac wrote: Weronika wrote: I'm not sure how Tamara's swivel windows work, but the ones we have at home in Poland can open normally (i.e. like doors), and if you twist the handle up they'll open at the top and stay attached at the bottom, but

Re: [lace-chat] Re: Mosquitoes

2004-06-07 Thread Weronika Patena
Louise Hume [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: only the male mosquitoes sing, to attract the females. So... if you hear a mosquito singing, it is a male and will not bite. I have read this, too, but apparently the mosquitoes in Michigan haven't. I don't know if male and female mosquitoes have a

Re: [lace-chat] Re: Insects meet their fate

2004-06-05 Thread Weronika Patena
Hmm. I don't have a flyswatter, but I use paper or such for flies, or just open the window and try to get them to leave. I deal with mosquitoes the same way you do. Especially effective when they're trying to get at you in bed at night and you don't want to get up and turn the light on. I'm

Re: [lace-chat] Re: Lives of the cat

2004-06-05 Thread Weronika Patena
All I can remember is that a cat always falls on 4 legs, ie lands safely. In extensio, that would mean that a cat never dies at all g and a piece of buttered bread always lands butter side down. So if you strap a piece of bread, buttered side up, on a cat's back, and drop the cat from a

Re: [lace-chat] :-)) Interesting exercise

2004-06-05 Thread Weronika Patena
Hmm. Narwhal? My spelling is probably wrong, but I'm pretty sure it starts with an N. Weronika On Sat, Jun 05, 2004 at 08:39:06AM +0100, Jean Nathan wrote: I didn't get any further than thinking of a letter - I just couldn't think of an animal that began with the letter N. I could only

Re: [lace-chat] Re: This is for Real - humour

2004-06-05 Thread Weronika Patena
Weronika, The culture confuses ME, and I was born and raised here by very non-international parents! I'm not sure whether I should be happy that my problem isn't abnormal, or unhappy because that means it'll probably never go away... g Except for The Lord of the Rings and Harry Potter,

Re: [lace-chat] Catching up with my reading of lace-chat digests

2004-06-05 Thread Weronika Patena
If anyone wants to see the house that we are going to live in for the next phase of our lives, you can go to : http://oruvilla.ee/eng/index.html DH is wearing a blue shirt in the 3rd photo on the History page. A few things that appeal to us about living in Estonia, are the simpler lifestyle,

[lace-chat] friend going to Europe

2004-06-04 Thread Weronika Patena
Hi, everyone! A friend of mine at Caltech is planning to go to Europe over the summer, but doesn't know where she should go and where she can afford going. Since you live all over the world and probably even go to Europe for lace events, I thought you might know. So she's planning to travel

Re: [lace] Re: [lace-chat] The culture shock

2004-06-03 Thread Weronika Patena
Everybody gets confused over whether 12:00 is ante meridian or post meridian. That's a relief - it's not just me being a confused foreigner... g Sensible people say that the time one minute after 11:59 AM is twelve noon, and the time one minute after 11:59 PM is twelve midnight. Sounds

Re: [lace-chat] windows

2004-06-03 Thread Weronika Patena
Tamara, obviously, you don't have many mosquitoes or flies in your part of the country!! You can't put mosquito screens up with swivel windows. I know the ones you mean, my parents have them in Provence, and I love them, but if I had them in Melbourne, we'd be invaded by flies during the

Re: [lace-chat] The culture shock

2004-06-03 Thread Weronika Patena
Ouch. Ah well, I'm sure I'll live, and Alaska is just the greatest place on Earth anyway (and that has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that it's where my boyfriend comes from g). Weronika On Thu, Jun 03, 2004 at 11:15:12PM +0200, dominique wrote: Hi weronika` i'm ready to bet there

Re: [lace-chat] Weronika's Matlab

2004-06-02 Thread Weronika Patena
(Also, my Matlab program just returned out of memory, arrgh) Hi, Weronika - Programming's like hitting your head on a brick wall - lovely when it stops! G g. Actually programming isn't that bad, I just wish I had someone to debug it for me! Plus, I spent most of last summer

Re: [lace-chat] The culture shock

2004-06-02 Thread Weronika Patena
In Michigan (very recently wet, rainy Michigan), if you didn't have window screens, you'd be eaten alive at night by mosquitoes. Even with the screens, sometimes the mosquito-whining from outside the screens drives me crazy, and if one of the little devils has sneaked into the house, into the

Re: [lace-chat] Re: This is for Real - humour

2004-06-01 Thread Weronika Patena
Hi everyone! I'm back from visiting my boyfriend for the long weekend, and I think I'll sit down and answer all of my accumulated Arachne email now. It's a great thing to do while waiting for my Matlab program to finish running and tell me what silly programming error I've made this time...

Re: [lace-chat] Re: This is for Real - humour

2004-06-01 Thread Weronika Patena
Weronika, the problem of getting lost in conversation doesn't only occur when moving to a country with a different language! I'm sure it doesn't. I'm fine with most of the language, it's just the culture that confuses me. Especially when people my age start talking about music and movies

Re: [lace-chat] Language and culture (was: This is for Real - humour)

2004-06-01 Thread Weronika Patena
And on the matter of cultural differences... Quite apart from the fact that an American window is still not a proper window to me (the sash-horror g), What's wrong with the windows? There's plenty wrong with the windows around where I live, but I didn't know it was a common American thing

Re: [lace-chat] Re: Arrangement of dates

2004-06-01 Thread Weronika Patena
And the arrangement of dates? Don't even get me started...Where's the logic of having month, day, year sequence??? Only the U.S. does that, the rest of us do day, month, year. I have a strong suspicion -- Weronika? -- that Poland is now aping the custom (along with many others). Not

Re: [lace-chat] :) Fwd: Californians

2004-06-01 Thread Weronika Patena
1.Your co-worker has 8 body piercings and none are visible. Ah yes. The tongue piercings just keep surprising me. 2.You take a bus and you are shocked at two people carrying on a conversation in English. Yep. And I don't have a car... 4.You can't remember.is pot

Re: [lace-chat] The culture shock

2004-06-01 Thread Weronika Patena
I promise -- cross my heart -- never to do this again, Ah yes. Please complain to me freely if I start writing about something uninteresting or otherwise unsuitable. I am, according to my friends, clueless g. In fact, I could just send this whole email privately to Tamara, but since I

Re: [lace-chat] Re: Arrangement of dates

2004-05-29 Thread Weronika Patena
On Sat, May 29, 2004 at 09:19:06AM -0700, Lorri Ferguson wrote: I have a strong suspicion -- Weronika? -- that Poland is now aping the custom (along with many others). I've never heard the month/day/year version before coming to the US, so no. Sometime after I left, the month began to

Re: [lace-chat] Re: evacuation

2004-05-27 Thread Weronika Patena
I spent a summer in Israel (mostly Haifa) a few years ago, and there was a big bomb scare - it was an organized scientific workshop sort of thing, and for the last week they didn't let us off campus at all! I got the habit of crossing the street whenever I see anything without an obvious owner.

Re: [lace-chat] Re: This is for Real - humour

2004-05-27 Thread Weronika Patena
! This is really horrible! I always thought this sort of thing was over earlier than the 60's... Tamara, was it like this in Poland too? Nope, and I doubt it had been like this in Poland even in 1860's... :) I thought so. Good... And the post WWII communist rule only strengthened

Re: [lace-chat] This is for Real - humour

2004-05-25 Thread Weronika Patena
! This is really horrible! I always thought this sort of thing was over earlier than the 60's... Tamara, was it like this in Poland too? Weronika On Wed, May 26, 2004 at 02:23:46AM +1000, David Collyer wrote: GOOD GRIEF ! 'Lay back and think of England' This is an actual extract

Re: [lace-chat] :)? Fwd: fundraising

2004-05-23 Thread Weronika Patena
That is really scary... Although, when I think of it, it might be the result of the law that where political parties get their money from must be public (I think there's a law like that, although I'm not sure, maybe I'm getting my countries confused again g). In which case it seems like pretty

[lace-chat] Freeway Lace Guild meeting

2004-05-23 Thread Weronika Patena
Hi, Last Saturday (i.e. the one before yesterday - I'm never sure what last and next mean in English) I went to the Freeway Lace Guild Meeting. I had lots of fun - thanks for everyone who was there and is on arachne! I started a bookmark, and spent exactly all of my money on a new pillow, tools

Re: [lace-chat] The peculiar languages

2004-05-21 Thread Weronika Patena
That's very interesting. Even though it doesn't use spaces, Japanese does have a pretty clear concept of a word - or maybe they just made it up to teach to foreigners ;-) Don't know about that... But I do remember that my students (I taught ESL to some Japanese girls, for a year,

Re: [lace-chat] Eats, Shoots and Leaves

2004-05-19 Thread Weronika Patena
Hi! One question was about the history of punctuation and she said it came from musical notation and was first used in Greek plays. They had marks to tell the actor when to take a deep breath before a long speech (or a medium or small breath). Interesting. I never wondered about

Re: [lace-chat] Re: :) Fwd: proof that girls are evil (fwd)

2004-05-18 Thread Weronika Patena
of all evil' I don't know, I always heard the version without love. Weronika Patena (a student at Cal Tech) wrote: Not refutable, other than the absolute value comment someone already added on the same page. Which, by the way, means that either girls = evil or girls = -evil, so it's

Re: [lace-chat] Re: :) Fwd: proof that girls are evil (fwd)

2004-05-18 Thread Weronika Patena
Actually in math and is times and or is plus. In my school days (40+ yrs ago), and was +, times was x, and or, being very indefinite, belonged not to mathemathics, but to philosophy (and to history, and to daily budgeting g) Ah, right, I didn't go to school in the US, so I missed this

Re: [lace-chat] :) Fwd: proof that girls are evil (fwd)

2004-05-17 Thread Weronika Patena
Not refutable, other than the absolute value comment someone already added on the same page. Which, by the way, means that either girls = evil or girls = -evil, so it's not that bad g Weronika On Tue, May 18, 2004 at 12:30:25AM -0400, Tamara P. Duvall wrote: Math's not my strong point, so I'm

[lace-chat] how my roommate thinks lace is made...

2004-05-13 Thread Weronika Patena
Hi! I just had the greatest conversation with my roommate. She finally got curious enough about what I was doing to come and ask, so I told her I was making lace. And she said: Ah, so that's how you make lace! We've all heard this one, I'm sure. But then she said: I always thought you just

Re: [lace-chat] Re: Nancy Drew books

2004-05-05 Thread Weronika Patena
When I was a kid in Poland, we didn't have TV for a long time, and even now only 3 channels, so I never watched much - read insane lots of books instead (I had to hide from my mom because it was bad for my eyes). I really hope my children will read... Actually I probably won't even want a TV in

Re: [lace-chat] Thank You Debbie Mouzon!!!

2004-04-19 Thread Weronika Patena
More beginner's questions: what are Secret Pals? Weronika On Mon, Apr 19, 2004 at 09:15:25AM -0700, Shirlee Hill wrote: Debbie Mouzon was my Secret Pal! Thank you, Debbie, for being such a great pal! Looks like we have quite a few things in common other than lacing. I, too, am 50 years