Re: [LegacyUG] Uses For Events?

2010-03-08 Thread Michael Berry
I recently went on a trip to Ireland and used the events to record each stop. This gives me a chronology and map of my trip. If may be of some value to my family later on. The events feature lets me keep a journal with photos, locations etc of my life. It also reminds me how fleeting things

[LegacyUG] Help, how to cleanup the mess the 3-bar paste button has made

2010-03-08 Thread James Cook
Going through the archives, I ran across a post about problems with the 3-bar paste. I did not realize until I read through that, that this button pastes to ALL EVENTS currently attached to the individual!Now, I know I have sources attached to events that do not belong. Please tell

Re: [LegacyUG] Help, how to cleanup the mess the 3-bar paste button has made

2010-03-08 Thread Randy Clark
It serves, among other things, as a quick, one-size-fits-all button for lazy people like me. On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 8:36 AM, James Cook jc1...@gmail.com wrote: Going through the archives, I ran across a post about problems with the 3-bar paste.  I did not realize until I read through that, that

Re: [LegacyUG] Uses For Events?

2010-03-08 Thread Brian/Support
Ron, The Map of places for a person invoked by the mapping icon does depend on events with locations as entered for that person. You are also correct that you can add any location to the Master Location List and it will be mapped when you open the Master Location list but that will not be linked

[LegacyUG] Pictures in Reports - Marriage Photo

2010-03-08 Thread Larry Lachance
Legacy allows you to place a picture for an individual that, when printing a descendant narrative report, displays the individual picture adjacent to the individual. Legacy also allows you to add a picture to the marriage, in the same manner as the individual. HOW do you get the marriage picture

Re: [LegacyUG] Child Status

2010-03-08 Thread Brian/Support
Did you convert from Family Tree Maker to Legacy Family Tree. The Natural for child relationships was and maybe still is, used by Family Tree Maker but not by Legacy. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation br...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world

Re: [LegacyUG] Locations, addresses and events

2010-03-08 Thread James Cook
I've been struggling through this same issue lately, and the level of detail in this thread is very nice. Thank you all! I'm new, so take this for what it is, but I've a few thoughts to add. 1) I disagree that this location boils down to simply personal preference. At least the way I look at

Re: [LegacyUG] Help, how to cleanup the mess the 3-bar paste button has made

2010-03-08 Thread Dennis M . Kowallek
On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 07:36:14 -0600, James Cook jc1...@gmail.com wrote: Please tell me there is a better way to go about cleaning this up than going to each individual's source list one at a time Bad news ... all you can do is clean-up manually. And, why, why, why does this button behave like

Re: [LegacyUG] Child Status

2010-03-08 Thread Dennis M . Kowallek
On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 09:15:41 -0500, Rita Lynn McKale cagr...@comporium.net wrote: Now, after reading Mike and Rich's response about the meaning of Natural, I'm wondering if there is a way to remove all those at once or would I have to go in one by one and change everyone. I think you should be

Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures in Reports - Marriage Photo

2010-03-08 Thread James Cook
I've struggled with this in the last couple of weeks too. Like you, I was bitten by this failure of the software, and came to the archives when I discovered I could not get my data back out once entered in as I was prompted to by the program. I think Why? is the question of the day. But, to

Re: [LegacyUG] Locations, addresses and events

2010-03-08 Thread Mike Fry
On 2010/03/08 16:04, James Cook wrote: I've been struggling through this same issue lately, and the level of detail in this thread is very nice. Thank you all! I'm new, so take this for what it is, but I've a few thoughts to add. SNIP 3) I'm not as detailed in my Location at this point.

Re: [LegacyUG] Help, how to cleanup the mess the 3-bar paste button has made

2010-03-08 Thread Bert van Kootwijk
From the help of version 6: 1. You can place the cursor in the Given name field and click the button to assign the source to that piece of information. Then click on the Birth field and click the button again, continuing to each field on the window to assign the source. 2. Or, you can click

Re: [LegacyUG] Individual Reports for Reference Binder

2010-03-08 Thread Giel Nel
Hi Sharlet, I have had the same problem reported. Received an fault number 188-12E99189-9FE7 from LEGACY as reference number. To date I have either missed or not received any feedback at all. GIEL On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 2:53 AM, Sharlet Zaretski szaret...@yahoo.comwrote: Hi There; I have

Re: [LegacyUG] Locations, addresses and events

2010-03-08 Thread Ron Ferguson
James Cook wrote: I've been struggling through this same issue lately, and the level of detail in this thread is very nice. Thank you all! I'm new, so take this for what it is, but I've a few thoughts to add. 1) I disagree that this location boils down to simply personal preference. At

Re: [LegacyUG] Help, how to cleanup the mess the 3-bar paste button has made

2010-03-08 Thread Mike Fry
On 2010/03/08 17:34, Bert van Kootwijk wrote: From the help of version 6: 1. You can place the cursor in the Given name field and click the button to assign the source to that piece of information. Then click on the Birth field and click the button again, continuing to each field on the

Re: [LegacyUG] Uses For Events?

2010-03-08 Thread Ron Ferguson
Brian, I agree, I was being pedantic, or strictly accurate in the programming sense grin. Actually I do find it useful if I know exactly how something works, rather than just how it seems to work. Just the way I think! Ron Ferguson _ Create

Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures in Reports - Marriage Photo

2010-03-08 Thread Ron Ferguson
James Cook wrote: I've struggled with this in the last couple of weeks too. Like you, I was bitten by this failure of the software, and came to the archives when I discovered I could not get my data back out once entered in as I was prompted to by the program. I think Why? is the question of

Re: [LegacyUG] Help, how to cleanup the mess the 3-bar paste button has made

2010-03-08 Thread Jenny M Benson
Bert van Kootwijk wrote 2. Or, you can click the button to have Legacy automatically assign the source to every field on the Information form that is not blank. (The source is only assigned to the vields that are shown on the screen. What is *slightly* misleading here is that only 7 Event lines

Re: [LegacyUG] Locations, addresses and events

2010-03-08 Thread Jenny M Benson
Ron Ferguson wrote I completely agree with the final paragraph of Mike's reply. It should be framed and put into a window which pop-ups whenever the Location Field is opened! I can see Mike, Ron I marching through LUG with out banners aloft - Liberate yourselves! - We will NOT be tyrannised! -

Re: [LegacyUG] Help, how to cleanup the mess the 3-bar paste button has made

2010-03-08 Thread jcthacyk
Is that the new way since version 7.4? I certainly hope so because if it's been that way since version 7 I'll have an awful lot of cleaning up to do too. I wouldn't even know where to begin. I just tried it with a phoney source and it adds the source to birth, baptism, death, buried, and all

Re: [LegacyUG] Help, how to cleanup the mess the 3-bar paste button has made

2010-03-08 Thread Dennis M . Kowallek
On Mon, 08 Mar 2010 11:27:52 -0600, jcthacyk jctha...@sasktel.net wrote: Is that the new way since version 7.4? I certainly hope so because if it's been that way since version 7 I'll have an awful lot of cleaning up to do too. I wouldn't even know where to begin. As far as I know, it's always

RE: [LegacyUG] Help, how to cleanup the mess the 3-bar paste button has made

2010-03-08 Thread William Boswell
I'm glad I never found that button. Thanks for the alert. Any chance you can restore a recent backup? Bill -Original Message- From: James Cook [mailto:jc1...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 8:36 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Help, how to cleanup the

Re: [LegacyUG] Locations, addresses and events

2010-03-08 Thread brenzelmf
Jenny, You can put me in that group too. I live in the US but I much prefer having the entire location (hospital, cemetery, school and complete address) in my locations. Sorting in the manner that Ron has mentioned many times is the key! Mary Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk wrote:

[LegacyUG] PhpGedView and Legacy

2010-03-08 Thread Jens Kettwig
Hi there, I used to work with Legacy a lot a few years back. Then I completely stopped using it due to my switch to PhpGedView, which I have installed on my website and which I enjoy using, because it makes collaboration so simple. Legacy on the other hand, is far more convenient at entering

Re: [LegacyUG] Individual Reports for Reference Binder

2010-03-08 Thread Sharlet Zaretski
Thanks Giel Glad to know I am not missing something, but too bad there hasn't been a response to your report.  Even if I could find a way around it, I would be happy, but for now, it really limits what I can do.  Too bad really. From: Giel Nel

Re: [LegacyUG] Help, how to cleanup the mess the 3-bar paste button has made

2010-03-08 Thread James Cook
Yes it is terrible and a lot of cleanup. There are way to many of little gotchas like this that I cannot believe the software gets a 5-star rating on review sites. Sure it's a nice app, I can almost go along with the best available (I've not tried them all), but I can only give it a 5-stat once

Re: [LegacyUG] Locations, addresses and events

2010-03-08 Thread James Cook
I'm confused now. We've been talking about using the Location field to hold detailed place information because the Address under the + button on vital events doesn't work, or is at least so limiting that it in practice, well, doesn't work. The purpose is that using the Location can be counted on

RE: [LegacyUG] Help, how to cleanup the mess the 3-bar paste button has made

2010-03-08 Thread CE Wood
It is most useful when first entering an individual. Often the same source has birth, death, etc. - the vital events. Enter the events, vital or otherwise that have that same source. Then you can use the triple bars and the source will be entered for all at once. Later use is more

Re: [LegacyUG] Help, how to cleanup the mess the 3-bar paste button has made

2010-03-08 Thread James Cook
Sure, on a new individual I can see that. One of my most used functions implies more than just new individuals to me. On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 1:43 PM, CE Wood wood...@msn.com wrote: It is most useful when first entering an individual.  Often the same source has birth, death, etc. - the vital

RE: [LegacyUG] Help, how to cleanup the mess the 3-bar paste button has made

2010-03-08 Thread cabyers
The 3-bar adds the source to every filled-in record for that individual even their events. Carol -Original Message- From: Dennis M. Kowallek [mailto:kowal...@iglou.com] Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 9:52 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Help, how to cleanup

Re: [LegacyUG] Help, how to cleanup the mess the 3-bar paste button has made

2010-03-08 Thread GeoSci
There is no little hack. The directions are quite clear - use the - for a single source to the item where the cursor is located -- use the triple - to source everything on the page that has data. It makes it so easy if you find a family with a bunch of kids on a census. AS you enter the

Re: [LegacyUG] Locations, addresses and events

2010-03-08 Thread James Cook
Ah, sorry, I follow you now. I had a separate thread a few days ago, a question about how to get a report of all the locations in a specific area. The end result being that the Vital Event Address couldn't do what I wanted. Not with any tips given at that time. That's how I ended up going this

RE: [LegacyUG] Locations, addresses and events

2010-03-08 Thread cabyers
I use the standard location format: city/town, county, state, country. That way I can use the master location list in Legacy and the map features. This is a standard way of defining a location, and a convention that everyone understands. It's like entering a date as DDMMM, and there is no

RE: [LegacyUG] Help, how to cleanup the mess the 3-bar paste button has made

2010-03-08 Thread CE Wood
As mentioned, the problem with doing as you say is that if you have other events for which the source is NOT a source, those events will now have that source. CE -Original Message- From: GeoSci [mailto:geosc...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 11:58 AM To:

Re: [LegacyUG] Help, how to cleanup the mess the 3-bar paste button has made

2010-03-08 Thread Gene Young
jcthacyk wrote: Is that the new way since version 7.4? I certainly hope so because if it's been that way since version 7 I'll have an awful lot of cleaning up to do too. I wouldn't even know where to begin. It has been that way as long as I can remember and it has always been explained in

Re: [LegacyUG] Help, how to cleanup the mess the 3-bar paste button has made

2010-03-08 Thread PDR
I also find the 3-bar source button a big help. Maybe our solution is to ask for an enhancement. The 3-bar button stay and works as it does today but add a 4-bar (or another symbol) which only sources completed fields not events. How do we add enhancement requests? Paul Legacy User

Re: [LegacyUG] Help, how to cleanup the mess the 3-bar paste button has made

2010-03-08 Thread Wendy Howard
As mentioned, the problem with doing as you say is that if you have other events for which the source is NOT a source, those events will now have that source. No-one has said you *must* use the three-bar icon. Understand what it does, and what the other icons do, and use it when its

Re: [LegacyUG] Help, how to cleanup the mess the 3-bar paste button has made

2010-03-08 Thread James Cook
I wasn't arguing for changing it necessarily, but at least a warning that 'Hey, are you sure this applies to the 15 events attached to John Doe? would be nice. I've read the help, and there are times when I wasn't ready to grasp what was written there until a later time. I'm sure the first dozen

Re: [LegacyUG] Entering or attaching a possible new family branch

2010-03-08 Thread Heather Stovold
I would probably do the same thing - putting them in the same file... That said, if you do choose to have them in another file, it isn't a big deal to move them once you have the connection. For just a couple of people, I would open the 2 files on split-screen, and drag-and-drop the people from

Re: [LegacyUG] Help, how to cleanup the mess the 3-bar paste button has made

2010-03-08 Thread Bob
On 2010-03-08 13:11, James Cook wrote: Yes it is terrible and a lot of cleanup. There are way to many of little gotchas like this that I cannot believe the software gets a 5-star rating on review sites. I doubt that any genealogy software review site does what could be called testing on the

[LegacyUG] Cemeteries and Churches

2010-03-08 Thread Rita Lynn McKale
Hi, I would like to know how others deal with cemetery/church information. I'm not talking about the debate about putting the cemetery/church name in the location field. I'm just talking about general information about a certain cemetery/church that pertains to many individuals. If I put that

Re: [LegacyUG] Locations, addresses and events

2010-03-08 Thread Mike Fry
On 2010/03/08 22:02, caby...@frontiernet.net wrote: I use the standard location format: city/town, county, state, country. That way I can use the master location list in Legacy and the map features. This is a standard way of defining a location, and a convention that everyone understands.

[LegacyUG] 3 Bar Button

2010-03-08 Thread Heeren
I'm really not understanding why so many people are trashing this button when the description of what it does is very clear. When you hover over it, it says Add Clipboard Source to All Used Fields. That's pretty specific. You're blasting the software for user error and I don't think there is a

Re: [LegacyUG] 3 Bar Button

2010-03-08 Thread Mike Fry
On 2010/03/09 00:00, Heeren wrote: I'm really not understanding why so many people are trashing this button when the description of what it does is very clear. When you hover over it, it says Add Clipboard Source to All Used Fields. That's pretty specific. You're blasting the software for

Re: [LegacyUG] Individual Reports for Reference Binder

2010-03-08 Thread RICHARD SCHULTHIES
Go to the Search list. On the bottom is a print which has many alternates of what fields to include. It will print in RIN order whenever you have have the column choosen. Rich in LA CA --- On Mon, 3/8/10, Giel Nel gielnel...@gmail.com wrote: From: Giel Nel gielnel...@gmail.com Subject: Re:

Re: [LegacyUG] 3 Bar Button

2010-03-08 Thread Heeren
sort of implies??? LOL If they wanted the button to apply just to the upper tier they would have said so... they said, All Used Fields. They said what they meant and it does what they meant. All the clipboard buttons are grouped together so that you can find them easily, they were not

Re: [LegacyUG] Help, how to cleanup the mess the 3-bar paste button has made

2010-03-08 Thread Ron Ferguson
James Cook wrote: Sure, on a new individual I can see that. One of my most used functions implies more than just new individuals to me. On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 1:43 PM, CE Wood wood...@msn.com wrote: It is most useful when first entering an individual. Often the same source has birth,

Re: [LegacyUG] 3 Bar Button

2010-03-08 Thread Dennis M . Kowallek
On Mon, 08 Mar 2010 17:49:13 -0500, Heeren hee...@usit.net wrote: they said, All Used Fields. They said what they meant and it does what they meant. But it doesn't apply to General Notes, Research Notes, Cause of Death, and Medical Notes. I think it can be argued that this is a tad

Re: [LegacyUG] PhpGedView and Legacy

2010-03-08 Thread Ron Ferguson
Jens, Just out of interest, as I have never used PHPGedView I don't know the answer, how do you know that it is Legacy which has changed? To the best of my knowledge there has not been any significant changes to the way the Legacy import works for years. Since it seems to have been rather a long

Re: [LegacyUG] Locations, addresses and events

2010-03-08 Thread RICHARD SCHULTHIES
If you want the three graves to have the same address, then use the GPS of the gate or the GPS for each stone. You have to choose. Rich in LA CA --- On Mon, 3/8/10, James Cook jc1...@gmail.com wrote: From: James Cook jc1...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Locations, addresses and events

Re: [LegacyUG] Child Status

2010-03-08 Thread RICHARD SCHULTHIES
After thinking some more, I looked and found in 'Search and replace' a category 'List-Child status'. Switching from Natural to ' ' should work. If not, I have found a way to confuse the computer. Use Natural to any other word. I use dummy. When you are in the first move, it allows you to edit

Re: [LegacyUG] Help, how to cleanup the mess the 3-bar paste button has made

2010-03-08 Thread Jenny M Benson
PDR wrote How do we add enhancement requests? Legacy Home tab, Suggest a new feature in the Support menu, bottom right. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009:

Re: [LegacyUG] 3 Bar Button

2010-03-08 Thread Jenny M Benson
Mike Fry wrote The placement of the button, up next to the basic individual details, sort of implies that it works with them and not events. That's poor UI design. I don't really see where else they could have put it. If it was in the lower section of the screen people would be saying they

Re: [LegacyUG] Locations, addresses and events

2010-03-08 Thread Ron Ferguson
Carol, It is not a standard location format if you are British, or of many, many other nationalities. We abandoned standardisation before it was invented, on the basis that is does not work, will not work, and conflicts with our freedom of expression. My location at one time was Glossop,

Re: [LegacyUG] PhpGedView and Legacy

2010-03-08 Thread Ellaine Goodall
Thanks Bruce - I will take it in to his wife tomorrow. Since it is in his own handwriting I think that it will be of great interest to him.Have you found anymore on Phillip - that is very intriguing. Also if you have time could you call the History Department in Salt Lake and tell them that you

RE: [LegacyUG] Locations, addresses and events

2010-03-08 Thread Charles Apple
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Re: [LegacyUG] 3 Bar Button

2010-03-08 Thread James Cook
I started this 3-bar mess today, and all I've suggested is a warning to the effect that Hey, are you sure this event applies all 15 pre-existing events. I don't think that is asking too much. Other things I've been bitten by - adding photos to vital events, adding address to vital events, adding

RE: [LegacyUG] Locations, addresses and events

2010-03-08 Thread CE Wood
The point is you can enter what you want for each location. It doesn't matter if some locations have one (England) or many (Ancient Rawson Farm, near Neponset village, Braintree, Norfolk, Massachusetts). CE -Original Message- From: Ron Goodwin [mailto:rong1...@gmail.com] Sent:

Re: [LegacyUG] Individual Reports for Reference Binder

2010-03-08 Thread Sharlet Zaretski
Thanks for this Rich, I will give it a try :-D From: RICHARD SCHULTHIES fourpa...@verizon.net To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Mon, March 8, 2010 5:37:51 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Individual Reports for Reference Binder Go to the Search list. On the

RE: [LegacyUG] 3 Bar Button

2010-03-08 Thread Jennifer Crockett
I feel for you James, and agree with your sentiments. I have been using Legacy for many years, and have at times used the 3 bar button, but I think thankfully only for new people. I had NO IDEA until this thread that it also applied to all events. Jennifer -Original Message- From:

Re: [LegacyUG] Locations, addresses and events

2010-03-08 Thread Elizabeth Cunningham
And I need 5 locations, because I have to include street addresses. In a city of 2 million, just the city, county, state, country is not nearly accurate enough. Elizabeth C Ron Goodwin wrote: Hi Ron, I would prefer an option in Legacy that would allow users to use 3 or 4 place