Well the EV Drag bike found a new home and will not be seeing the dragstrip, at
least not in it's current form. It went to an electrathon racer who is mostly
interested in the motor and rear swingarm assembly. He is planning on
including it in his street legal 3 wheel streamliner project he i
I just posted my drag bike on the EV Trading Post. I will sell the motor
separately. Take a look here for more details and feel free to contact me with
any questions.
http://home.comcast.net/~damonhenry/evdragbike.htm
damon
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I have a brand new Alltrax 4850 controller in my inventory of EV items to
dispose of. I got this as a factory warranty replacement for one that I blew
up on my motorcycle and have never used it (I upgraded to a 72 volt model).
Before I sell it on Ebay I thought I would offer it to my list fri
Hi All,
A while ago I wanted to experiment with paralleling Dewalt tool batteries to
make usable EV packs, with a thought of perhaps using them on my motorcycle. I
have two brand new packs along with a charger and the proper style connectors
to parallel more packs together. The two packs are
e gear > reduction and it barely would go after pushing
it off stopped. When I > added a 3:1 jackshaft it actually started performing
nicely. It made a > huge difference.> > - SteveS> > damon henry wrote:> > Your
current numbers look much higher than I would have expec
Your current numbers look much higher than I would have expected. Years ago
when I first put together my motorcycle, after I had the motor and sprockets
mounted, I took it out for a couple of test runs with a battery in my lap and a
pair of jumper cables. With one 12 volt 16 ahr Hawker it pul
Again, very similar to my setup. That is the same controller I have used for
years although I currently have a 72 volt model on the bike, but that is only
because I had it sitting on the shelf the last time a blew up a 48 volt one and
I have yet to swap it back.
damon> I was running 36V on mi
When I first put the bike together, I figured out that 60 mph was right around
3000 RPM so very similar to yours.
damon
> Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 07:50:22 -0500> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To:
> listserv@electricmotorcycles.net> Subject: Re: [ElectricMotorcycles] BMW
> update> > Oh yeah, what s
atio it doesn't have
> to as beefy as a final drive belt > would be - more like a primary belt (if
> anyone uses them there). I don't > know much about chain and belt drives
> having owned shaft drives for so > long now.> > Anyway, I was grinning a
> bit!>
I would not give up on the shaft drive just yet. What do you define as hot?
It's likely that the insulation in your motor is rated up to 180 deg Celsius.
Try measuring the brushes with a temperature probe after you heat things up.
How many amps were you pushing through the motor? More amps
> no face-plant if the motor locks up and maybe more range, I don't> >> know.
> I'll have to try it out. Later, Bob> >>> >> - Original Message -> >>
> From: Garret Maki> >> To: ElectricMotorcycles> >> Sent: Monday, Augu
Well,
I just blew up another Alltrax controller. I believe that is 4 for me now.
This one is right at the 2 year mark, so we will see if it is warranty replaced
or not. Does anyone else go through these things like me. I have destroyed 3
on my motorcycle and 1 on my truck.
I'm beginning
My only sprocket loosening issues were when set screws loosened. It's been a
few years since I've had that happen.
damon
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 07:09:07 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL
PROTECTED]: [ElectricMotorcycles] finally
i finally got my bike registered, if you make your home
rware on their site ( and why do these EV sites> use
> such awful graphics?) which makes me doubt their reliability.> > The packs
> are too large for my ultra-lightweight project, but very interesting for the
> next phase.> > John> > damon henry w
presume > NiMH falls in
> between lithium and lead in weight. I don't need a huge > battery pack (so I
> think) and the NiMH didn't look to crazy. But there > must be reasons it's
> not being used. I figured I'd need 150 cells and if > they have to manage
>>>>> To:
> listserv@electricmotorcycles.net> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date:>> Thu, 15
> May 2008 10:06:00 -0400> Subject: Re: [ElectricMotorcycles] New>> News and
> about axe 7245R1alltraxcontroller> > What is the website for>> the
>
NIMHs are totally off my radar, because as you said, the right size cells are
unobtainable. They are also tough to charge correctly especially when you have
to parallel them all together to get the correct size pack. If you want
expensive lightweight batteries the clear choice is lithium, espe
troller> > What is the website for the Logisystems
> controllers?> > -shawn> > -Original Message-> > From: damon henry
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> Subj: Re: [ElectricMotorcycles] New News and about axe
> 7245R1alltraxcontroller> Date: Thu May 15, 2008 9:48 a
You may be correct although from the message I can't tell if they got that far
or not. I've never tried to upgrade the firmware on one of these controllers
and I'm not sure what would cause them to want to do that. I usually just take
them out of the box and install them as is, although I may
Everything you need to know you should be able to download from the Alltrax
website. The AXE user's guide is here
http://www.alltraxinc.com/files/Doc100-003-A_OP-AXE-Operators-Manual.pdf.
For bench programming prior to installation, two 9V batteries
in series may used to power up the control
I think you will need closer to 80-100 ahr of those batteries to get 50 miles.
With a 100 ahr pack of Nicads at 48 volts I had a 35 to 40 mile range at 50
mph. The pack weighed 230 lbs. Your lithiums will be quite a bit lighter and
since you are running at 72 volts instead of 48 you would hav
So according to these numbers running at 30 mph for one hour would take you 30
miles and require 85 - 90 ahrs. The specs I looked up on your battery included
a rating of 84 ahrs but that is at the 20 hour rate. At an 85 amp draw they
are rated to last 32 minutes. So with no stopping and start
Well, we are not talking about drag racing, so 1500 amps is not a requirement,
but on my bike which only has a 48 volt Alltrax, I often pull 300 -350 battery
amps during acceleration and cruise at between 100 and 200 amps. Are they up
to that task? I will be interested in hearing what you find
I'm very skeptical of any EM claiming 45 - 50 mile range on 300lbs of lead.
Cut that in half and you are in the right ball park. Either he has much bigger
batteries than yours (the EV24a are listed at 50lbs each). Or you are riding
on very flat ground (you are in Florida so that much is a giv
e with a DPDT switch for low> > power systems, and a reversing
> contactor for high power systems. Or one SPST> > contactor, and one SPDT
> contactor.> > > > Regards,> > Andrew in NM> > > > On Mon, May 5, 2008 at
> 11:31 AM, damon henry <[EMAIL PROT
You use contactors to physically rewire the motors. In series both motors see
the same current in parallel they both see the same voltage.
damon
> Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 10:13:45 -0700> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To:
> listserv@electricmotorcycles.net> Subject: Re: [ElectricMotorcycles]
> ser
I still cringe everytime someone recommends an Etek motor. Yes you can save
about 25 lbs over an ADC 6.7" motor, but they just have such a small margin for
error in this application that you are always flirting with a motor meltdown.
A bad choice in gear ratios, I little too much time pulling
Congratulations, it looks great.
damon> Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 21:45:36 -0700> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To:
ListServ@electricmotorcycles.net> Subject: [ElectricMotorcycles] My Electric
Motorcycle> > I finished my electric motorcycle and posted the info here:> >
http://www.evalbum.com/1628> > -
if you could extend the wheel base (oops> I am the one
doesn't like that, shoot!) move the swing arm back to> accomodate the smallest
separate trans (sportster, brit bike) and use> two gears maybe the range can be
stretched a little?> > Jeff> > On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at
Once you spring for a Zilla, the point is moot. The only reason for a
transmission is to try to get good acceleration and a high top end out of a
moderate motor controller combo. A Zilla has plenty of overhead to accomplish
this with a single motor... unless of course you are talking about Ki
Hi Andrew,
Forty four miles on an electric motorcycle is probably over ambitous for your
first project. I am not aware of a single electric motorcycle that can be
ridden this far day in and day out. Electric motorcycles are cool, but it is
very difficult to stuff enough batteries into one t
that. I'm thinking a >
larger motor, esp. with 8 brushes, would deal with that a lot better. > And
since I would need less than 2500 RPM max or so, I don't need to > overvoltage
it. What is the downside of a larger motor ( other than > weight and size)?> >
- SteveS>
eally don't want it in the final
setup. I wonder how that > motor would be at lower volts?> > - SteveS> > >
Damon henry wrote:> > If you are in need of a good motor take a look at Jim's
latest > > offerings. Take my advice, don't screw around with one of t
If you are in need of a good motor take a look at Jim's latest offerings. Take
my advice, don't screw around with one of those easy to melt pancake motors,
get yourself one of these forklift rebuilds instead. Jim makes them
bulletproof. They just soak up whatever amps you throw at them and
akers. Just look
at DC rated> switches, the DC rating is much less than the AC rating because
of> this issue.> > I have used a very large breaker (250 A DC) as a switch with
a very> large fuse in 72V battery based systems and had no issues YET. Peace.>
Jeff> On Wed, Mar 19, 2
Your understanding and mine or the same. Perhaps Jeff Blamey was thinking of
AC versus DC ratings. I have one of these circuit breakers in my truck and
expect it to be able to break full pack current at full voltage (80 volts of
BB600 Nicads). Of course, I also have a fuse and a main contact
This will work, and probably work fairly well, but is a lot of work, and will
take a lng time to charge. One thing you need to keep in mind is that when
you put two batteries in parrallel their capacity becomes the sum of the two
batteries, so if you put 6 12 volt batteries in parallel and
v/EVCalculator.html?200629>
http://www.evconvert.com/tools/evcalc/>
http://www.kreuzotter.de/english/espeed.htm> > HTH> John> > damon henry wrote:>
> It seems to me the changes should be proportional. >
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It seems to me the changes should be proportional. If you have an electric
with a range of 15 miles per charge and you increase the efficiency by 20% then
you will have an 18 mile range. If you have the same bike as a gasser with 150
mile range and you improve the efficiency by 20% then you s
I'm not sure about shifting without a clutch it's probably doable. Most of us
are running a single gear ratio. Even if the shifting does not work out for you
the transmission will let you choose a different gear ratio depending on where
you are going.
damon> Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 09:55:27 -0
That's awesome! I have not owned a Palm for almost a decade, after I swtiched
to pocket PC's, but I would definitely pick one or two up cheap on eBay to run
this program. It beats the heck out of trying to strap a laptop on the bike.
One more parameter which is very important to me and shou
I have two of these that I bought for a slightly lower price here.
http://www.batteryservice.com/products_final.aspx?Category=Charger&ModelNumber=SE-1072
I bought one over a year ago and damaged it slightly by running it at too high
of a current (the 24 volt setting no longer works correctly), a
l. Do you
> have full curves on your motor? What voltage do you run at?> > - Steve> >
damon henry wrote:> > I am running a ADC AC4-4002 similar to this > >
http://www.evparts.com/prod-MT2112.htm. The only time I have any > > heating
issues is if we get enough
7;s minor.> > I really
wish I had that 1.5:1 transmission ratio I missed. I'd gladly > give up top end
for a solid low end start up.> > - steve> > damon henry wrote:> > It really is
a balance between acceleration and top speed. Your > > figures don't
It really is a balance between acceleration and top speed. Your figures don't
sound that much different than my motorcycle. Mine won't even move without
pulling 100 battery amps to get it started, and I top out at about 60 mph. I
can maintain 40 mph pulling about 100 battery amps. That's at
What controller are you using? The alternative to a different gear ratio is
more amps :-) It's possible that once you get moving a bit you will feel the
gear ratio you already is fine. If you have a contactor that is rated for the
job you can test this by hooking a battery straight to the mo
om> a forklift pump motor." Any further info,
from what brand Forklift,> what voltage, did it have an external shaft or two,
any model number> you can remember? HP rating at the intended voltage. Any
comments on> it from Mr. Husted?> > Thanks> Jeff> > On Jan 30, 200
For those that are interested I finally put some pictures of my new truck up on
the Evalbum site. There is still lots of test and tune stuff to do, and I
don't have all the wires tucked away and such so I only put up pictures of the
parts that look complete for now :-) Until it is approved an
Before I got my Evision I was watching current draw with my laptop through the
Alltrax serial port. According to the controller at times it was pulling up to
530 battery amps. I have fixed some brake drag issues and now have my new
meter hooked up. I have yet to see it pull more than 300 bat
Everything on this truck is a bit undersized, but I am trying to see what I can
get away with in order to use less lithium. So I have started with an Alltrax
72 volt 450 amp controller, 480lbs of BB600 Nicads in two strings of ~81 volts
and an 8 brush ADC 6.7 motor. The truck itself is a 1970
I for one am dieing to start playing with Lithium, but charging and BMS are way
critical. For now I have two Dewalt 33 volt tool batteries and a charger I
bought off Ebay to play with. I have a 24 volt 25 amp lawn mower, a 36 volt 40
amp scooter, a 48 volt 400 amp motorcycle, and a 72 volt 50
Yes, you bolt lugs to it. To be honest though I do not know what size the
holes are, and you are correct in that it does not seem to be in their diagram.
One thing that is in their diagram that I just noticed is recommended wire
guages and guess what... For a 400 amp controller they recommen
ec-Trak which is really flexible and nice
to > work with - 4 AWG I think. I was thinking of the same for this, but I >
will be running higher amps - I'm also using an Alltrax 400A controller. > 2
AWG makes sense. Of course bigger is always better, but at some point > it gets
in the way
It's the amount of amps that you will draw that is important when choosing your
wire. I've been happy with 2 guage on my motorcycle. That is with an Alltrax
400 amp controller. Be sure that you get a nice flexible wire with lots of
strands. It will make everything much easier.
damon> Date
I've been using my Magura for over three years and can't imagine the need for
such a device. Personally I would never use anything different, well of course
except on my drag bike which already has a cable and a potbox installed by the
previous owner. Still, when I look at how he has the potb
There is a class of in wheel motors referred to as hub motors which are quite
popular on electric bikes. The ones that are easily available for purchase are
a bit undersized for motorcycle use although with a bit of ingenuity you could
probably pull off a very lightweight version.
damon
> Da
If you really only care about an emergency disconnect then I would think an
appropriate sized contactor or switch is a simpler solution. I have one of
these circuit breakers in my truck
http://www.electroauto.com/catalog/circtbkr.shtml. You could mount it anywhere
you have room and run your
Well, it is a shorter 4 brush motor though that should be plenty of motor for a
motorcycle. I think $250 is a good price for a motor that you can potentially
use as is. You could always send it to Jim later if it needs some working up.
It will cost you a little in freight and some for Jim's
There was some talk about sprockets on the EVDL a couple of weeks ago and it
was pointed out that surplus center
(http://www.surpluscenter.com/sort.asp?UID=2007110512354268&catname=powerTrans&keyword=PH50)
has #50 sprockets with hubs for only $5 a piece. It was mentioned that these
will work
ks ago and talked to the kid... Mario right?
Did> he get his jetta working? I called to meet some more EV'ers around> here.>
> I'm converting a couple of motorcycles too... we should talk.> >
http://blog.evfr.net is my website so far... just kinda getting things read
My buddy who is doing the body work on my truck found this on craigslist for me
http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/pts/439185289.html.
I just went and picked it up tonight. It was a great buy considering it came
with a prestolite MTC4001 motor.
The sellers bought it and stripped the Zilla
et.
72V, 165ah battery pack ( 11.9KW, 684lb of battery), 18 batteries, fun...Later
On 9/24/07, damon henry <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
How much did the Perm 132 cost you? I'm under the impression that they are
quite spendy. My bike frame is also a 250 (1975 Suzuki GX250) and my motor
How much did the Perm 132 cost you? I'm under the impression that they are
quite spendy. My bike frame is also a 250 (1975 Suzuki GX250) and my motor
weighs about 50 lbs. So on the one hand it is about twice as heavy as a Perm
132, but on the other hand it is only an extra 28 lbs and has eas
motor like the
6.7" is> a much better motor for the EM.If you have a heavier bike, a larger>
motor like the 7.5" would be great.> > Shawn> > damon henry wrote:> > Well, my
advice is don't buy one at all. They seem nice until they> > melt down. I
w
Well, my advice is don't buy one at all. They seem nice until they melt down.
I would contact Jim Husted and get a nice ADC 6.7 inch motor that can handle
the job. Some have gotten by with Eteks, but many have also burned them up. I
bought my Alltrax from http://www.evsource.com/.
damon
I'm in Vancouver Washington which is right across the river from Portland
Oregon. Jim Husted is actually in Redmond Oregon, about 3 hours southeast of
me.> Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 18:25:04 -0700> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To:
listserv@electricmotorcycles.net> Subject: [ElectricMotorcycles] EM.ne
Let us know how that works out. I'm skeptical that these batteries have enough
ooomph to keep you happy at only 44 volts. They claim a continous rating of
270 and max of 450 amps, but all their capacity and lifecycle testing is done
at 30 amps, so you may find at the higher rates they don't g
I'm not familiar with the Schauer charger, but the specs on the EV parts
website don't look correct to me. Having the finish voltage lower than the
float voltage is backwards, and if it really only charges at full current up to
2.1 volts per cell, it is going to take a very long time to charge
If you're happy with the Soniel, you can always just use two. Either get two
36 volt models, or stick with the 48 volt one you already have and pickup a 24
volt model with similar ratings.
damon
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hey Dale, I'm planning on buying a Zivan charger pretty soon and was
ike. I'm considering the "battery saddle > mount" approach, but was hoping to
contain them all within the frame.> > Seth> > > Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 16:54:38
+> > From: "damon henry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > Subject: Re:
[ElectricMotor
I don't think that there is any general differences in the D&D and ADC
motors that are relavant to your application.
There are two main things to consider when comparing similar series wound
motors, and they both have to do with how much current they can handle. The
first is the brushes. Loo
Definitely go with the 72 volt controller if you want to do freeway speeds.
It makes it much easier. AC is probably not much of an option on a
motorcycle, unless you are really trying to do something unique. Get in
touch with Jim Husted at Hi Torque Electric in Redmond and he can help set
yo
ould do.
> Each state is different, though.
> JF
>
> damon henry wrote:
> > I would say you have an excellent chance but you will likely need lots
> > of persistence. I find that when dealing with paperwork issues it is
> > easiest to give the answers they want to hea
I would say you have an excellent chance but you will likely need lots of
persistence. I find that when dealing with paperwork issues it is easiest
to give the answers they want to hear. For instance, when asked how many
CCs say 400, if they question that answer say that your electric motor is
I've got no ideas about your DC to DC, but this is why I always recommend
the 6.7 inch series wound motors over Eteks. It's not that they can't do
the job, but they are too easy to fry. Too many amps either undoes all the
solder or demagnatizes the magnets. Yes they are small, and yes they ar
Electric scooters are easy, you can just go out and buy one. Here is just
one example.
http://www.evparts.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=803&product_id=3276
From: "Michael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ElectricMotorcycles
To: "'ElectricMotorcycles'"
Subject: Re: [ElectricMotorcycles]
Half speed.
From: Johnathan Vail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ElectricMotorcycles
To: ElectricMotorcycles
Subject: [ElectricMotorcycles] Brother-in-law button?
Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2007 17:08:01 -0400
I deleted the email before I got back to the browser to see the diagram but
what is the fu
That sounds great. My ADC 6.7 inch does not get too hot, but I have a
feeling the one I am putting in my truck might since it is going to be
pushing around a lot more weight. I will probably need to add a blower to
it. Of course, the truck will have the advantage of having a transmission,
so
ere anything specific I should get?
Or will typical copper electrical wiring do?
Henry
damon henry wrote:
Sure lots of us could since it is something that we have all done before.
Do you have a specific motor and controller in mind? Do you understand
some basics about electrical circuits?
Electric Freccia
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 15:13:18 -0700
I guess I need to fabricate some body workthis looks great.
On 6/28/07, damon henry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Very nice. Some of you guys really work hard and get everything buttoned
up
so well. I remember when I first started
Very nice. Some of you guys really work hard and get everything buttoned up
so well. I remember when I first started building my bike and looked at the
limited selection of EMs on the Ev photo album. There were some real
monster listed... still are. For a while I thought mine looked all righ
And the next project is a solar charger, three salvaged Sharp panels (I
have them already, hi-voltage grid-tie units), a solar charge controller, a
battery bank, and an inverter adequate to handle the six 6A chargers on the
bike. The solar charger is a bit convoluted, ideal would be an 84 volt
Sure lots of us could since it is something that we have all done before.
Do you have a specific motor and controller in mind? Do you understand some
basics about electrical circuits?
My setup which is rather common goes like this. It is essentially one big
series circuit. The batteries ar
ing and setup? I think my wiring
and all are adequate, but maybe my gearing is wrong. Obviously gearing
affects top speed directly, but how much affect on performance does gearing
have? When I'm running at 5MPH and the motor is turning 800 RPM, is that
too slow to get adequate power?
-
Well, there are only three possibilities. It's the motor, the batteries, or
the controller. How mini is the mini-bike? I have a small scooter/mini
bike that came with a bad controller. I ditched the controller and
installed a single contactor. Now I just switch in either 24 or 36 volts
wor
Nope,
No one has ever tested it. How about if you be the first :-)
Seriously, this is basic physics. Everytime you convert energy from once
form to another there are loses involved. Your scheme would entail several
energy conversions and corresponding losses. In the end you will have less
oday's Topics:
>
>1. Re: Kelly's controller? (Mike)
>2. Re: Kelly's controller? (Mike)
>3. Re: Kelly's controller? (Travis Gintz)
>4. Re: VFR700 conversion was: Kelly's controller?
> (Philippe Borges)
>5. Re: Kel
I would not call the weight penalty of an ADC big. The ADC on my motorcycle
weighs in at around 50 pounds, which is probably 20 - 30 pounds more than
one of the pancake style motors. It is definitely heavier, but that's part
of the reason in can deal with more amps. In motors, amps generate
what motor should I use...
Personally, I'm really liking the PERM132. I have an etek in my CBR but
I'm beginning to think a heavy bike is too much for it. When my bike had
little Hawkers at around 78 pounds the bike went like snot and the motor
never got warm. Even riding full throttle an
There are two possible problems with regen on a motorcycle. The first
depends on the motor type. Permanent Magnet and Sepex motors do regen well,
series wound motors do not. So the first issue may or may not be an issue
depending on your motor type. Personally I have a series wound motor. Th
With that battery, I would say lying it flat would be a problem. It does
not look sealed.
Even with a sealed battery having them laying in different orientations can
cause an imbalance. However, with sealed batteries I would not worry about
it as long as you have a decent charging scheme and
out here, just
grew up farming and keeping the junk running at harvest time... I need
to lean on others that have made it down the same road.
Thanks.
Tim
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of damon
henry
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 1:39
It shouldn't take much time at all. I'm not sure what all you mean by the
El Ninja aproach (I do know what the El Ninja is I'm just not sure what
distinguishing features it has) but really you are just looking to fit the
pieces in the correct places. In my opinion the most important thing to
If your contactors don't work out, these big GE contactors on Ebay should do
the trick. I bought some from this seller a few months back and have them
sitting in my garage.
ebay item 150124809100
damon
From: "Jack Knopf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ElectricMotorcycles
To: "ElectricMotor
cles] variac charger BB600
Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 15:19:28 -0400 (EDT)
On Fri, May 18, 2007 1:45 pm, damon henry wrote:
> Thanks Johnathan for the input. BB600s are flooded NiCad cells, so they
> are
> a bit different then lead acid but not really that much. Mostly they
are
> easier.
Thanks Johnathan for the input. BB600s are flooded NiCad cells, so they are
a bit different then lead acid but not really that much. Mostly they are
easier. The main advantage of using a variac for charging is that you can
make it do anything you want quite easily. The hard part is that you
The only thing that I do that you haven't already mentioned is parallel
about 600 watts worth of light bulbs together and put them in series with
the battery when I want to do a constant current charge at about 3.5 amps.
I use this for equalizing once in a while. Other then that it's the varia
At 72 volts why only 40 mph? Is that just the limit on the roads you are
riding? With your setup it should be easy to do freeway speeds.
damon
From: Jeff Blamey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ElectricMotorcycles
To: ElectricMotorcycles
Subject: Re: [ElectricMotorcycles] Re; EM Conversion q
Your dreaming a little too big... There are very few EMs in the world that
can do 100 mph for even 1 mile and just about as many that can go 100 miles
at 1 mph. If you want something that can do 80 mph and have a useable 20
miles range your looking at something very doable. The effort to incr
I know there are a lot of Etek lovers out there, and it seems someone has
posted one at special Walmart rollback pricing on the EVTradin Post. He's
got it listed for $350. I don't have any use for it, but that seems like a
very good price if you were hoping to pick one up.
damon
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