Re: early peek at a bit of fun

2001-06-18 Thread Alex Page
On Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 12:11:50PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote: > I must have imagined London.pm. Thank God! It was all a horrible, horrible dream!!! Alex -- "Four pints of milk, a turkey baster and some plastic tubing, that's all you need." http://www.cpio.

Re: YAPC::Europe

2001-06-14 Thread Alex Page
$a || $b ) && $c && $d; Alex -- "Four pints of milk, a turkey baster and some plastic tubing, that's all you need." http://www.cpio.org/~grimoire http://www.livejournal.com/users/diffrentcolours

Re: Pubs - a serious investigation

2001-06-09 Thread Alex Page
On Fri, Jun 08, 2001 at 05:46:33PM +0100, Simon Wistow wrote: > o The Doggetts Coat and Arms (by the river) It has to be said, Doggetts is a fine, fine pub. Plenty of room, not-too-loud music, nice beer... and fairly convenient for most people. Alex -- "Four pints of milk, a turkey ba

Re: [Possible Job] Perl, Linux

2001-06-07 Thread Alex Page
same that even a wonder-newbie like me has gainful employment right now :-) Alex -- "Four pints of milk, a turkey baster and some plastic tubing, that's all you need." http://www.cpio.org/~grimoire http://www.livejournal.com/users/diffrentcolours

Re: Religion

2001-06-02 Thread Alex Page
I haven't done Morrising for ages. Count me in! Alex -- "Four pints of milk, a turkey baster and some plastic tubing, that's all you need." http://www.cpio.org/~grimoire http://www.livejournal.com/users/diffrentcolours

Re: Religion

2001-06-02 Thread Alex Gough
> At 15:53 01/06/01 +0100, you wrote: > > Jon, thinking Paganism and Christianity should co-exist happily as do Art > and Science. > Yes, if only... http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/0,,62-112765,00.html Alex Gough -- Today class, we'll be cloning extinct species to see how they taste.

Re: LCN June

2001-06-01 Thread alex
On Fri, 1 Jun 2001, Dean wrote: > Lonix > Date: Wednesday 6th June at 6.00pm. hasn't this been postponed? alex

Re: Election Manifestos

2001-05-22 Thread Alex Gough
On Tue, 22 May 2001, Robin Szemeti wrote: > hmmm .. I was tempted just to let it pass .. but I can't resist ;) > > What you need to remember is this : They will say ANYTHING to get your > vote .. ANYTHING. Even the truth? I'd very much doubt that. Alex Gough -- I don&

Re: pc components

2001-05-17 Thread Alex Gough
On Thu, 17 May 2001, Simon Cozens wrote: > On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 11:03:35AM +0100, AEF wrote: > > When I last ordered a HDD from Dabs, they mailed me a couple of days > > later to say that it wasn't in stock (there website said it was). > > My motherboard from Dabs has spent two days "awaiting

Re: Politics (was RE: BOFHs requiring license)

2001-05-14 Thread Alex Gough
... Before I kill you, Mr Bond, I want you to sign this confession of your own incompetance using your ordinary looking pen. Alex Gough -- Guyfawkes made a very loyal plan to to blow up the King and the bishops and everybody else in Parliament, with gunpowder. Although he failed attemp

Re: Monitors

2001-05-12 Thread Alex Page
hat I'm currently using belons to the grilf, and this has a pair of vibrating rabbits (Anarchy and Armageddon), a lion, a gecko, a chameleon, and a stone with wierdy celtic carvings. And an extensible aerial, stuck on with blu-tak, that keeps falling off and poking me in the head. Alex -- &q

Re: see attachment

2001-05-12 Thread Alex Page
don where the surviving Perl Mongers are desperately trying to survive against the hordes of radiation-addled Java Zombies, and locate the few remaining stashes of beer and bandwidth? Or some kind of bizzaro martial arts fest pitching the Heretics against the True London.pm'ers (tm)... Alex

Re: Monitors

2001-05-11 Thread Alex Gough
the trouble I had trying to buy this...)) And, tied to the ceiling above the monitor, a 35p flying dinosaur which waves in the thermals. Alex Gough -- A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort.

Re: see attachment

2001-05-11 Thread Alex Page
On Wed, May 09, 2001 at 10:06:52PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: > well i had 15 minutes to spare so i decided to do this ... Right, so who's going to write a script that parses all of the london.pm traffic and tells us what we need to drink? Alex, what, *read* the bloody thing? -- &q

Re: More revolting natives

2001-05-04 Thread Alex Page
k who > > > "kills people for a living" in Hereford! > > Um. I no longer want children. > You *wanted* them? :-) Deep fried? Alex -- "I ask for so little. Just let me rule you, and you can have everything that you want." - Jareth, Labyrinth

drinks and (maybe) parks or something

2001-05-04 Thread aleX
rd person is thought of in a very unfortunate way from then on by the mishearer. L. foam tea with tapioca balls M. go home. probably to different homes but someone might decide to have a impromptu, disorganised house party. N. miss an opportunity. see you there! alex -- here they come lalalalala la lalalalala la the part time punks

Re: cocktails

2001-05-03 Thread alex
On Thu, 3 May 2001, alex wrote: > anyone know a good cocktail bar (ie, not swanky, but with nice cocktails) > in London? it should be open on a sunday afternoon by the way :) for those interested in coming along, it will probably start about early afternoon. by the way, for those interes

cocktails

2001-05-03 Thread alex
anyone know a good cocktail bar (ie, not swanky, but with nice cocktails) in London? It's my BIRTHDAY and I want to invite everyone to drink tasty drinks with me but the only cocktail bar I liked has closed down. veeg -- here they come lalalalala la lalalalala la the part time punks

Re: Migrating South (was Good Accountants)

2001-04-27 Thread Alex Page
On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 07:47:47PM -0400, David H. Adler wrote: > On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 06:56:22PM -0400, Alex Page wrote: > > Hmm, I'm feeling like this is getting waaay too off-topic > What is this "off-topic" you speak of? Is it a custom of your people? Yeah.

Re: Migrating South (was Good Accountants)

2001-04-27 Thread Alex Page
batical, so... No, sort of, no. Alex -- "I ask for so little. Just let me rule you, and you can have everything that you want." - Jareth, Labyrinth

Re: Good Accountants

2001-04-27 Thread Alex Page
On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 02:26:04PM -0400, David H. Adler wrote: > I suggest you go look at the entry for NY.pm at > http://www.pm.org/groups/north_america.shtml :-) *peers round site* Blimey, there's an Oxford perl mongers! You mean I'm not the only perl coder in this city?!?

Re: Good Accountants (?)

2001-04-27 Thread Alex Page
tight jumper in slow > motion? Actually, in Manchester, one traditionally dances to the Sisters either with a four-way country reel, or the Can-Can. Sobriety is not an option :-) Alex -- "I ask for so little. Just let me rule you, and you can have everything that you want." - Jareth, Labyrinth

Re: Migrating South (was Good Accountants)

2001-04-27 Thread Alex Page
, then there's enough loose women in tight PVC to make it worth attending... Alex ObLondon.pmRef: The Bronze looks like a really good club! -- "I ask for so little. Just let me rule you, and you can have everything that you want." - Jareth, Labyrinth

Re: Good Accountants

2001-04-27 Thread Alex Page
runken nights in Jilly's drinking too much snakebite and falling over while trying to dance to the Sisters of Mercy probably won't interest most of london.pm Alex -- "I ask for so little. Just let me rule you, and you can have everything that you want." - Jareth, Labyrinth

Re: Good Accountants

2001-04-26 Thread Alex Page
The one thing that's really bugging me is the lack of support for paged media - I've got a very simple rule that says that you should avoid page-breaking after the employer's name / details (so you get at least one paragraph of the job description in), but have yet to find a browser th

frot the box

2001-04-24 Thread alex
the stuff has arrived, so we'll probably have a go at putting shiney new things in penderel tomorrow evening. if there's a time when this would inconvenience you, let me know and i'll make a proper schedule if need be. otherwise watch out for wall'd and irc announcements.

tech meet at state51

2001-04-19 Thread alex
looking forward to the meeting... just thought i'd mention that although last time i said there wouldn't be beer and there was, this time there really won't be beer... no time to organise it i'm afraid. but please feel free to bring your own :) cheers alex -- here th

Re: NY Invasion

2001-04-12 Thread Alex Page
On Thu, Apr 12, 2001 at 11:25:27AM +0100, dcross - David Cross wrote: > and we've tentatively pencilled in Thursday 26th April as a good date > for us to show them how to drink. Shit, and The Fall are playing Oxford then :-( Alex -- "I ask for so little. Just let me rule y

Re: Technical Meeting - 19th April

2001-04-09 Thread alex
On Mon, 9 Apr 2001, dcross - David Cross wrote: > Last Thursday I bullied^Wasked some people to consider doing talks for > us, but I can't remember who they were. This is your opportunity to > step forward. i'll do some more music for a bit. alex -- here they come lalalal

Re: Grammar (was: Re: Linux.com Online Chat)

2001-04-07 Thread Alex Page
On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 11:28:16AM +0200, Philip Newton wrote: > Alex Page wrote: > > When I was at prep school, my English teacher had lots of > > little signs over the classroom walls saying things like > > "It's not all right to say 'alright'",

Re: [HELP] Traceroute

2001-04-07 Thread Alex Page
On Sat, Apr 07, 2001 at 06:59:44AM +0100, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: > Alex Page <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > TCP/IP Illustrated, Volume 1: The Protocols, > > Gah, I've got a copy of that on my shelf. Really should get round > > to reading it at some poi

Re: [HELP] Traceroute

2001-04-06 Thread Alex Page
On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 05:37:34PM +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote: > You probably want: > TCP/IP Illustrated, Volume 1: The Protocols, Gah, I've got a copy of that on my shelf. Really should get round to reading it at some point... Alex -- "I ask for so little. Just let

Re: Grammar (was: Re: Linux.com Online Chat)

2001-04-04 Thread Alex Page
difference between it's and its, you're and your, > and don't write 'alot', you're probably in the top 1%-ile :) When I was at prep school, my English teacher had lots of little signs over the classroom walls saying things like "It's not all right to say &#x

Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Alex Page
ts of cider, and then spend the night around a > camp fire, drinking and talking. But where would we find a camping ground with a fast net connection and wireless LAN connections? Alex -- "I ask for so little. Just let me rule you, and you can have everything that you want." - Jareth, Labyrinth

Re: Proposal for the certification body

2001-03-29 Thread alex
sure - wasn't suggesting any back-room dealings - just that it will be more expedient to discuss these face to face and bounce ideas around (and i also suspect that this is a subject of interest to the minority of the list). alex > > however remember that all committee session

Re: Proposal for the certification body

2001-03-29 Thread alex
such a YAS exist (or other type of body)? alex > > > > YAS has already had `salaried' staff and grants so thats not that > > new a thing, if the certification brings in cash i'm sure some of > > it can be redirected to the costs. But I am keen to see the certific

Re: Proposal for the certification body

2001-03-29 Thread alex
session. alex > > YAS has already had `salaried' staff and grants so thats not that > new a thing, if the certification brings in cash i'm sure some of > it can be redirected to the costs. But I am keen to see the certification > content first before we get bogged down in t

Re: Proposal for the certification body

2001-03-29 Thread alex
f a YAS-type entity to operate without funding and salaried staff. If an entity is investable or more obviously sponsorable then it might be a lot easier to get seed funding from someone like O'Reilly or IBM. alex > -- ____ alex nunes | t 02

Re: Perl Certification Drive

2001-03-29 Thread alex
can it > be" will be the PHB's attitude, I've seen this often. -- ____ alex nunes | t 020 7603 5723 | f 020 7603 2504 director | read the NEW story @ http://codix.net/ codix.net | 107 shepherd's bush road, london w6 7lp

Re: Proposal for the certification body

2001-03-29 Thread alex
translate perfectly to other activities - and i think Perl brand building (of which PCSE is just one component in the jigsaw) is one of them. no flames - please. alex On Thu, 29 Mar 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote: > > Attached is a draft proposal > > As soon as JS gets a chance to se

Re: Job: I'm looking for one..

2001-03-29 Thread alex
ink a voluntary, well-meaning effort will achieve this. alex > > * alex ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > > you don't think having a single body with london.pm representation whose > > responsibilities would be exam delivery, assessment and certificaiton > > would

Re: Job: I'm looking for one..

2001-03-29 Thread alex
you don't think having a single body with london.pm representation whose responsibilities would be exam delivery, assessment and certificaiton would be more efficient/effective than what you describe? alex On Thu, 29 Mar 2001, Robert Shiels wrote: > > I think a lot of this wi

Re: Job: I'm looking for one..

2001-03-29 Thread alex
ther org to actually do the certification. Maybe a privately owned company formed from the london.pm membership. alex On Thu, 29 Mar 2001, Jonathan Stowe wrote: > On Thu, 29 Mar 2001, Dave Cross wrote: > > > At Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:51:46 +0100 (BST), alex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrot

Re: Job: I'm looking for one..

2001-03-29 Thread alex
und like a professional certification a la MCSE simply to address corporate criticisms that this is a hackers only language with no certification. i think the whole initiative should be more about making Perl be taken more seriously OUTSIDE the community. alex > > Shouldn't that be CPH for &

Re: Job: I'm looking for one..

2001-03-29 Thread alex
i am a little unclear what the benefits of this exercise might be without a brand or larger player backing it up. if we could hook up with someone like learning tree (eg they can claim to deliver courses to "PCSE" standards) this might be a big winner. alex ps i only mention lea

RE: Job: I'm looking for one..

2001-03-28 Thread alex
annot be said of Perl. Until a corporate puts marketing muscle behind it (highly unlikely) people will perceive it as a hacker technology. alex ps whoever raised the issue of opex/capex - openness: the more people i talk to nowadays about selling consultancy work - the more i hear people wanting pro

Re: Job: I'm looking for one..

2001-03-28 Thread alex
;noone was ever sacked for hiring ibm" - i think we're moving towards s/IBM/Java/ alex ps the big killer is that there is no large corporate generating tons of noise about Perl - whereas this is not the case for Java. On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, Aaron Trevena wrote: > On Wed,

Re: Job: I'm looking for one..

2001-03-28 Thread alex
ulary perl) but i don't think that is the market situation. alex On Tue, 27 Mar 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote: > y* Simon Cozens ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 11:41:33PM +0100, Aaron Trevena wrote: > > > On Mon, 26 Mar 2001, Roger Burton West wrote: >

upgrade fund

2001-03-25 Thread alex
y problems with them. i'll pick only in-stock stuff because i understand that they can be slacker than they advertise when it comes to re-stocking. jo would hopefully oversee the process so i don't end up ordering bananas by mistake. are the mungers happy with this approach? or would yo

Re: Pointless, Badly-Written Module.

2001-03-20 Thread Alex Page
On Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 04:40:29PM +, Simon Wilcox wrote: > >2. MM DD YY is an evil date format, and should be abolished in favour of DD > >MM YY which is more sensible. > Or even better YY-MM-DD which avoids cross-pond confusion. Or even better still, YYYY-MM-DD :-) Alex

Re: Matt's Scripts

2001-03-13 Thread alex
On Tue, 13 Mar 2001, Dave Cross wrote: > Formmail - alex@state51 will take more later if there are some left over -- a member of the state51 conspiracy tonight i'm gonna party like it's (time_t) 1E9 dadadodo> IE5 PIPE CRACK always SMOKING

Re: if we can make it there, we can make it anywhere

2001-03-04 Thread Alex Page
t appears to have once again fallen off, where are we on this? Dunno, if someone wants to use a perl meet as a smokescreen to coincide with a music festival I want to attend in NY at the end of august so I've got more chance of getting time off past my bosses, I'd be most grateful :-)

server money

2001-02-21 Thread alex
unt on the london.pm server, either send me a cheque, transfer the money into my account, or bring the money to the axkit talk tomorrow. 50 pounds each cheers, alex

live Perl music, wednesday

2001-02-04 Thread alex
london.pm, slub play a live generative set this wednesday 7th february at 'deriver', in the foundry. our set will start at about 8:30pm, although the evening will kick off a bit before that i think. should be a fun evening of drinking, chatting and strange noises. best alex -- i

Re: Last Night

2001-02-02 Thread Alex Page
s, rather than sticking to a "home", but I'm like that so feel free to ignore me :-) Alex -- "I ask for so little. Just let me rule you, and you can have everything that you want." - Jareth, Labyrinth

Re: Perl Books

2001-02-02 Thread Alex Page
ys forget to flush when forking, and I've done some horrible things with IPC::Open3 before... Alex -- "I ask for so little. Just let me rule you, and you can have everything that you want." - Jareth, Labyrinth

Re: Mailing List Archive

2001-01-25 Thread alex
a public archive containing all our email addresses is obviously bad. no-spam countermeasures help, but it's an ugly solution.. it's also about atmosphere. i don't like contributing to a friendly, discussive list that's archived and searchable by anyone who happens to drop by. mutual trust is

Re: Munging Reply-To

2001-01-22 Thread alex
armful" arguments (which we don't > necessarily accept as valid). there is only one right way, and that's to give people the choice. that's what i do, and in my experience the majority prefer to have their reply-to's munged on discussive lists such as this one. alex --

Re: Hardware Upgrade Fund

2001-01-19 Thread alex
her this money, i'll want to spend it (on the server) straight away rather than have it sitting around. you have some good suggestions for what we should spend it on, though. alex -- Snack pastries are dramatic when shapes are combined

Re: Consultancy company was [Job] BOFH wanted was: Re: Red Hat worm discovered

2001-01-19 Thread Alex Page
On Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 09:27:18AM +, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: > It should be mandatory for all public servants to be adept at Sim > City. IIRC, Sim City is one of Ken Livingstone's favorites. Alex

Re: Hardware Upgrade Fund

2001-01-19 Thread alex
On Fri, 19 Jan 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote: ok i was a bit late ;) -- Snack pastries are dramatic when shapes are combined

Re: Hardware Upgrade Fund

2001-01-19 Thread alex
On Fri, 19 Jan 2001, Dave Cross wrote: > I'm not sure. I don't think I've ever known this. I'm hoping that > someone woh a) bought it or b) is sitting next to it will be able to > leap in with this information. [alex@penderel alex]$ cat /proc/cpuinfo

Re: Hardware Upgrade Fund

2001-01-19 Thread alex
the month I'll let you all know what money we have and we can then decide what to do with it. Alex [1] My first name is actually Christopher, but handily my parents changed their minds after registering my birth and decided to call me by my middle name. PS The guy with the tennants extra bro

Re: Hardware Upgrade Fund

2001-01-19 Thread alex
On Fri, 19 Jan 2001, Dave Cross wrote: > Anyone fancy it? I forgot to mention, I offered to do this before, and that offer still stands. alex -- Snack pastries are dramatic when shapes are combined

techmeet aftermath

2001-01-18 Thread alex
er version than CPAN (sorry) I am happy to discuss this stuff in greater detail off-list, or in the generative art mailing list 'eu-gene' at generative.net. Best, Alex

whiteboard pens

2001-01-18 Thread alex
"yes please bring your whiteboard pens along by all means." cheers, alex -- Snack pastries are dramatic when shapes are combined

Re: Feelers for London Open Source Convention

2001-01-17 Thread alex
In my opinion London would be fine for an August conference. I don't know what the fuss is about, really. London is not like Paris in the summer. We have a lot more parks. Perhaps September would be better, but hey. Alex -- Snack pastries are dramatic when shapes are combined

Re: trade mark parody (Re: PIMB T-shirts)

2001-01-16 Thread Alex Page
On Tue, Jan 16, 2001 at 01:43:00PM +, Robin Houston wrote: > Don't we have someone here who *is* a lawyer? :-) More to the point, don't we have someone who could drop a mail to one of the happy bunnies at O'Rielly and ask them nicely not to sue us? Alex

Re: PIMB T-shirts

2001-01-16 Thread Alex Page
7;Reilly > would protect. IANAL, but AFAIK parody is protected under trademark law, as long as you're not making profit (I presume beer money for the hassle of T-shirt making is excusable). Alex

Re: PIMB T-shirts

2001-01-16 Thread Alex Page
On Tue, Jan 16, 2001 at 12:32:47PM +, Marcel Grunauer wrote: > How about "Smoking Perl" for Amsterdam? "YAPC::Europe::Amsterdam - A Week-Long Hashref" Alex

Re: one liner

2001-01-06 Thread alex
friendly community. if i'm going to use other people's code in my art this is a highly important point. so to me, Perl is the most human computer language, and so the most suitable language for computer art. alex ps Tangram and Template Toolkit are great! -- Snack pastries are dramatic when shapes are combined

Re: one liner

2001-01-06 Thread alex
On Sat, 6 Jan 2001, Dean S Wilson wrote: > I left (void) and you'l not take me back alive! Outlook canne take the > strain! i think london.pm is busier than (void) nowadays, a lot of the thought-provoking people left -- Snack pastries are dramatic when shapes are combined

Re: Technical Meeting

2001-01-05 Thread alex
On Fri, 5 Jan 2001, jo walsh wrote: > i have had ideas about (Ouperlpo? Oupropo?) myself, but never done > anything about it :/ that would indeed be cool. our generative music performance at YAPC::Europe was influenced by these people -- Snack pastries are dramatic when shapes are combined

Re: FOOD

2001-01-05 Thread Alex Page
I need a cigarette." "Here you go, you can scab one of mine." "No thanks, I'm fine." Alex, stalking dha around the 'net

Re: Technical Meeting

2001-01-04 Thread alex
On Thu, 4 Jan 2001, Dave Cross wrote: > It was pointed out this evening that I hadn't send out a reminder for > the technical meeting which is in two weeks time (Jan 18th). We'll be > holding it at State 51 and I'm hoping that Alex or Jo will post > detailed directi

Re: Getting keys of mapped hash?

2001-01-03 Thread alex
On Wed, 3 Jan 2001, Shevek wrote: > > my @sort=sort keys %{ +{ map { $_ => undef } @list } }; > Maybe I'm missing something here, but how is this different to > my @sort = sort @list; values in @sort are unique?

Re: new years eve

2000-12-30 Thread alex
> where, when? I haven't made any plans yet but was thinking about going down to the foundry NYE evening and hanging around there until 2001 then playing it by ear from there on. Anyone fancy that?