Re: Email Style (was: Re: Election Manifestos)

2001-05-23 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 06:51:26PM -0400, David H. Adler wrote: > map g !G perl -MText::Autoformat -eautoformat > map z !G perl -MText::Autoformat -e 'autoformat{ all => 1 }' > > ...shamelessly stolen, lock stock and barrel from Damian's article in > the new TPJ. :-) Cool, thanks.

Re: Email Style (was: Re: Election Manifestos)

2001-05-23 Thread David H. Adler
On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 02:41:33PM -0700, Paul Makepeace wrote: > On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 12:23:49PM -0400, David H. Adler wrote: > > You should use Damian's Text::AutoFormat. I just used it to reformat > > the bit above beginning with "Indeed". Lovely thing. > > Have you integrated into a mail

Re: Email Style (was: Re: Election Manifestos)

2001-05-23 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 12:23:49PM -0400, David H. Adler wrote: > You should use Damian's Text::AutoFormat. I just used it to reformat > the bit above beginning with "Indeed". Lovely thing. Have you integrated into a mail server (module, procmail, whatever) so that it gets cleaned on the way in

Re: Election Manifestos

2001-05-23 Thread Simon Cozens
On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 09:50:47PM +0100, Leon Brocard wrote: > @Mail (http://webbasedemail.com/) copied my code, my docs, and my > images without telling me, added a configuration file, and sold it. I > only found out about it by accident, which wasn't good. (it's changed > a lot since). This is

Re: Election Manifestos

2001-05-23 Thread Leon Brocard
Chris Ball sent the following bits through the ether: > I used to use At-mail a lot at work. Pseudo-interesting question of the > day; do you really feel it was ripped off (in the stigmatism-attached > sense of the word), or given that it was GPLed or Artistic'd anyway, that > it's fair play to t

Re: POSIX::localeconv()/Germany

2001-05-23 Thread Mike Jarvis
Wednesday, May 23, 2001, 2:45:24 PM, Dave Cross wrote: DC> Haven't tried the routine you're talking about, but if you ever decide to DC> give up on them, the Number::Format module (from CPAN) will solve all of DC> your problems. After RTFM'ing about that fine module, I thought I found my probl

Re: Election Manifestos

2001-05-23 Thread Chris Ball
On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 11:04:19AM +0100, Simon Wistow wrote: > It's a pity Acmemail never really took off (apart from being ripped off > and turned into a succesful company by At-mail) I used to use At-mail a lot at work. Pseudo-interesting question of the day; do you really feel it was ripped o

Re: Buffy gear

2001-05-23 Thread Barry Pretsell
- From: "Robin Szemeti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 8:30 PM Subject: Re: Buffy gear > On Wed, 23 May 2001, Barry Pretsell wrote: > > > > QVC are selling lots of Buffy gear, tune into QVC now, or check out the wbe

Re: POSIX::localeconv()/Germany

2001-05-23 Thread Dave Cross
At 20:18 23/05/2001, you wrote: >Anybody have experience with POSIX localization functions/clients in >Germany? > >I've got a client in .de that wants prices to look like this: >DEM 1.234,00 >i.e., the thousands sep is a "." and the decimal is a ",". > >The posix routines return a space for the th

Re: Buffy gear

2001-05-23 Thread Robin Szemeti
On Wed, 23 May 2001, Barry Pretsell wrote: > > QVC are selling lots of Buffy gear, tune into QVC now, or check out the wbesite eughh! when you say 'Buffy gear' do you mean as in 'we guarantee these were worn by Buffy ... ' or something entirely more celeubrious ? -- Robin Szemeti

Re: Buffy gear

2001-05-23 Thread Dave Cross
At 19:16 23/05/2001, Dean wrote: >On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 07:18:23PM +0100, Barry Pretsell wrote: > > QVC are selling lots of Buffy gear, tune into QVC now, or check out the > wbesite > >"Charisma Carpenter 'Cordelia' Signed Photo" £64... > >Now i'm scared... Far cheaper on Yahoo Auctions:

Re: Buffy gear

2001-05-23 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Dean ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 07:18:23PM +0100, Barry Pretsell wrote: > > QVC are selling lots of Buffy gear, tune into QVC now, or check out the wbesite > > "Charisma Carpenter 'Cordelia' Signed Photo" £64... > > Now i'm scared... > you mean the suggestion of goi

RE: Election Manifestos

2001-05-23 Thread Robin Szemeti
On Wed, 23 May 2001, Cross David - dcross wrote: > From: Leon Brocard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 9:43 AM > > > Cross David - dcross sent the following bits through the ether: > > > > > This, of course, presupposes that acmemail passes everyone's > > > definition of a dec

Re: Buffy gear

2001-05-23 Thread Dean
On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 07:18:23PM +0100, Barry Pretsell wrote: > QVC are selling lots of Buffy gear, tune into QVC now, or check out the wbesite "Charisma Carpenter 'Cordelia' Signed Photo" £64... Now i'm scared... Dean -- Profanity is the one language all programmers understand --

Re: [Announce] Hackspoitation film fest

2001-05-23 Thread Leon Brocard
Simon Wistow sent the following bits through the ether: > If anybody has any of these ... I could bring along "Real Genius"? (slightly more old-skool hackers though) Leon -- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/ Iterative Software...http://www.iterative-softwa

Re: [Announce] Hackspoitation film fest

2001-05-23 Thread Simon Wistow
Neil Ford wrote: > Had I been able to locate my copy you would have been more than welcome > to borrow it it would appear mine's in storage. If I get a chance before > Saturday I'll try and track it down. Ooh, you are a star.

Re: [Announce] Hackspoitation film fest

2001-05-23 Thread Neil Ford
On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 01:53:54PM +0100, Simon Wistow wrote: > (http://www.twoshortplanks.com/simon/filmfest/) > > Time for yet another movie marathon since people have been carping on > about it and this time it's the long awaited > hacksploitation night - exploring the interesting and, umm,

Re: [Announce] Hackspoitation film fest

2001-05-23 Thread David H. Adler
On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 01:53:54PM +0100, Simon Wistow wrote: > > If anybody has any of these ... > > o Sneakers Well, I have it, but it's on NTSC laserdisc, and I'm in a different country. Serves you right for doing this without me. :-) dha -- David H. Adler - <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - http:

Re: Email Style (was: Re: Election Manifestos)

2001-05-23 Thread David H. Adler
On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 02:52:39PM +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote: > On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 02:32:09PM +0100, Jonathan Peterson wrote: > > > > >Much as I'd love it if everyone was to be able to post to the list from their >favourite Unix mail client all the time, > > ^^^

Re: Sara Cox - was Re: FHM Top 100 Sexiest Women

2001-05-23 Thread David H. Adler
On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 08:18:07AM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: > * David H. Adler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > On Mon, May 21, 2001 at 12:17:11PM +0100, Barbie wrote: > > > > > > Bugger! Brain thinking faster than my hands! > > > > Your hands *think*??? > > > > in fact, it was a recent Ange

Re: Expect problem

2001-05-23 Thread Mark Rogaski
An entity claiming to be [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: : : How can I get things to wait till the spawned program finishes, or at : least let it finish properly. : I've just had success by putting in an infinite wait : unless ($command->expect(undef, "nonsense")) { :}; : But th

Re: Email Style (was: Re: Election Manifestos)

2001-05-23 Thread Niklas Nordebo
On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 02:52:39PM +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote: > However, the cool futuristic stuff like CORRECT BLOODY WORK WRAPPING is I generally avoid this issue by not working so much that it needs wrapping. -- Niklas Nordebo -><- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -><- +447966251290 "The day is seven

Re: Election Manifestos

2001-05-23 Thread Philip Newton
Simon Wistow wrote: > the DBI abstraction was, well, nonexistent. As in, if your script has lots of calls to mysql_this and mysql_that, it doesn't look very database independent. Cheers, Philip -- Philip Newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> All opinions are my own, not my employer's. If you're not part o

Email Style (was: Re: Election Manifestos)

2001-05-23 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 02:32:09PM +0100, Jonathan Peterson wrote: > At 07:49 23/05/01 +0100, you wrote: > >At 17:37 22/05/2001, Roger Burton West wrote: > > > > > >>And get a shell account, why don't you? > > > >Thanks. I already have several. > > [snip] > > > >Much as I'd love it if everyone

Re: Election Manifestos

2001-05-23 Thread Jonathan Peterson
At 07:49 23/05/01 +0100, you wrote: >At 17:37 22/05/2001, Roger Burton West wrote: > > >>And get a shell account, why don't you? > >Thanks. I already have several. [snip] >Much as I'd love it if everyone was to be able to post to the list from their >favourite Unix mail client all the time,

Re: Election Manifestos

2001-05-23 Thread Martin Ling
On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 02:06:13PM -0700, Paul Makepeace wrote: > > > > But they fixed references in 6.0! No, wait, they just introduced a > > > load of Thread-* headers :-( Fucking morons. > > > > They just innovated threading! > > > > Tell me you're joking. > > If I was joking I wouldn't hav

Re: Election Manifestos

2001-05-23 Thread Simon Wistow
AEF wrote: > Could you elaborate on that a little? It's not too much of a danger, but > I may have to persuade people that PHP isn't the right solution for a > large-scale application. I know quite a few of the arguments, but it'd be > nice to have some real-world examples... Well I haven't pla

Re: new york

2001-05-23 Thread Philip Newton
Greg McCarroll wrote: > Well back from sunny NY to good old London and what do i have > waiting for me, thats right 200+ messages in London.pm! Hurrah! That was an awfully quick flight if it got you there and back in under eight hours (judging from the number of messages you say you had in your i

Re: Election Manifestos

2001-05-23 Thread AEF
On Wed, 23 May 2001, Simon Wistow wrote: > Imp was crap when we started and it's also PHP based. I like PHP (/me > gets coat) but I wouldn't do a large scale application in it (especially > since I had just just done one then and hit some very large limitations) Could you elaborate on that a l

Re: Election Manifestos

2001-05-23 Thread Mark Fowler
On Wed, 23 May 2001, Simon Cozens wrote: > On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 11:17:14AM +0100, Simon Wistow wrote: > > But Mail::Cclient is also unbeleivably powerful. Lying round on my HD > > there's a Mail::Cclient::Simple which amkes everything much easier but > > it's one of many projects I've never go

Re: Election Manifestos

2001-05-23 Thread Simon Cozens
On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 11:17:14AM +0100, Simon Wistow wrote: > But Mail::Cclient is also unbeleivably powerful. Lying round on my HD > there's a Mail::Cclient::Simple which amkes everything much easier but > it's one of many projects I've never got round to finishing. Why > reinvent the wheel by

Re: Election Manifestos

2001-05-23 Thread Simon Wistow
Simon Cozens wrote: > > On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 11:04:19AM +0100, Simon Wistow wrote: > > that Mail::Cclient is powerful but complicated and can be a bitch to > > install, > > And use. Ripping that fucker out would be my first act. :) > There's also http://www.horde.org/imp/ which is reasonably

Re: Election Manifestos

2001-05-23 Thread Simon Cozens
On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 11:04:19AM +0100, Simon Wistow wrote: > that Mail::Cclient is powerful but complicated and can be a bitch to > install, And use. Ripping that fucker out would be my first act. :) There's also http://www.horde.org/imp/ which is reasonably popular. -- "Jesus ate my mouse"

Re: Election Manifestos

2001-05-23 Thread Simon Wistow
Simon Cozens wrote: > > On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 09:43:23AM +0100, Leon Brocard wrote: > > It didn't hit critical mass. Discuss. > > Yet Another Webmail Client; it wasn't exactly filling a gaping niche. > (And I say that as someone who may soon be maintaining one of the others...) It did at the

Re: Election Manifestos

2001-05-23 Thread Simon Cozens
On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 09:43:23AM +0100, Leon Brocard wrote: > It didn't hit critical mass. Discuss. Yet Another Webmail Client; it wasn't exactly filling a gaping niche. (And I say that as someone who may soon be maintaining one of the others...) -- 4.2BSD may not be a complete disaster, but

RE: Election Manifestos

2001-05-23 Thread Mark Fowler
On Wed, 23 May 2001, Cross David - dcross wrote: > I've had another idea tho'. Why don't we install acmemail on Penderel and > suggest that people with braindead mail clients use that? > > This, of course, presupposes that acmemail passes everyone's definition of a > decent mail client. And if it

RE: Election Manifestos

2001-05-23 Thread Cross David - dcross
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Re: Election Manifestos

2001-05-23 Thread Leon Brocard
Cross David - dcross sent the following bits through the ether: > This, of course, presupposes that acmemail passes everyone's > definition of a decent mail client. And if it doesn't, we can just > slap the authors until it does :) You'll be happy to know that I gave up ownership of acmemail a w

Re: Sara Cox - was Re: FHM Top 100 Sexiest Women

2001-05-23 Thread Greg McCarroll
* David H. Adler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Mon, May 21, 2001 at 12:17:11PM +0100, Barbie wrote: > > > > Bugger! Brain thinking faster than my hands! > > Your hands *think*??? > in fact, it was a recent Angel episode -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinu

Re: Sara Cox - was Re: FHM Top 100 Sexiest Women

2001-05-23 Thread Greg McCarroll
* David H. Adler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Mon, May 21, 2001 at 12:17:11PM +0100, Barbie wrote: > > > > Bugger! Brain thinking faster than my hands! > > Your hands *think*??? > > dha, sees a sci-fi movie in here somewhere... > that ones been done to death -- Greg McCarroll

RE: Election Manifestos

2001-05-23 Thread Cross David - dcross
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Re: Election Manifestos

2001-05-22 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 07:49:48AM +0100, Dave Cross wrote: > Yes, there _are_ always round it, but some people don't have the time > or knowledge to do that. You're more than welcome to snag this Java 1.1 SSH client at http://paulm.com/login/index.html http://paulm.com/login/mindtermfull.jar

Re: Election Manifestos

2001-05-22 Thread Dave Cross
At 17:37 22/05/2001, Roger Burton West wrote: >On or about Tue, May 22, 2001 at 05:23:32PM +0100, Cross David - dcross typed: > > >I've not actually seen the manifesto, but from what I'm told it really means > >If you can't be bothered to take a few minutes to look, why the hell are >you posting a

Re: MIME stuff - Am I missing something?

2001-05-22 Thread Gareth Harper
From: "Dominic Mitchell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 03:06:39PM +0100, Barbie wrote: > > From: "Robert Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > From: Roger Burton West [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > > > > man 1 file > > > > man 5 magic > > > > less /usr/share/misc/magic # on

Re: [announce] Tie::Hash::Rank

2001-05-22 Thread David Cantrell
On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 10:17:18PM +0200, Marcel Grunauer wrote: > Looks good. Also works with Attribute::TieClasses (once I had replaced > the '#!/usr/bin/perl -w' with 'use warnings', mysteriously). Perhaps because I have a 'no warnings' in T::H::R? -- David Cantrell | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | ht

Re: Election Manifestos

2001-05-22 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 09:14:05PM +0100, Martin Ling wrote: > On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 11:11:23AM -0700, Paul Makepeace wrote: > > > > I *loathe* Exchange. > > > > But they fixed references in 6.0! No, wait, they just introduced a > > load of Thread-* headers :-( Fucking morons. > > They just i

Re: Election Manifestos

2001-05-22 Thread Alex Gough
On Tue, 22 May 2001, Robin Szemeti wrote: > hmmm .. I was tempted just to let it pass .. but I can't resist ;) > > What you need to remember is this : They will say ANYTHING to get your > vote .. ANYTHING. Even the truth? I'd very much doubt that. Alex Gough -- I don't believe that honesty l

Re: Election Manifestos

2001-05-22 Thread Robin Szemeti
On Tue, 22 May 2001, Paul Mison wrote: > On 22/05/2001 at 16:19 +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote: > > >the immediate feeling I get is to rent some cellars at the houses of > >parliament and invest in a number of big barrels of gunpowder .. oh hang > >on that ones been done before and had a distinctly

Re: [announce] Tie::Hash::Rank

2001-05-22 Thread Marcel Grunauer
On Tuesday, May 22, 2001, at 09:32 PM, David Cantrell wrote: > I've just put a complete version of Tie::Hash::Rank on my webshite for 'webshite'? shurely shome mishtake? > your enjoyment. I'd be grateful if some of you could download it and > test it before I submit it to CPAN. > > http://

Re: Election Manifestos

2001-05-22 Thread Martin Ling
On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 11:11:23AM -0700, Paul Makepeace wrote: > > I *loathe* Exchange. > > But they fixed references in 6.0! No, wait, they just introduced a > load of Thread-* headers :-( Fucking morons. They just innovated threading! Tell me you're joking. Martin

Re: [OT] Food exports?

2001-05-22 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
"Barry Pretsell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > embargo has been due to foot and mouth, embargo is bi-directional and covers > meat as well. Any references to this? -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.d

Re: [OT] Food exports?

2001-05-22 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
"Barry Pretsell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Here's the leaflets given to travellers > > http://www.maff.gov.uk/animalh/int-trde/misc/foot/flyer.pdf oops :-) -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep

Re: [OT] Food exports?

2001-05-22 Thread Robin Szemeti
On Tue, 22 May 2001, Barry Pretsell wrote: > Here's the leaflets given to travellers > > http://www.maff.gov.uk/animalh/int-trde/misc/foot/flyer.pdf Strangely enough .. I have friends in North Wales who had reason to have speach (in welsh, unsurprisingly) with a local farmer the other day. Seem

Re: [OT] Food exports?

2001-05-22 Thread Barry Pretsell
Here's the leaflets given to travellers http://www.maff.gov.uk/animalh/int-trde/misc/foot/flyer.pdf - Original Message - From: "Dave Hodgkinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 7:22 PM Subject: [OT] Food exports? > > Someone just laid what I

Re: [OT] Food exports?

2001-05-22 Thread Barry Pretsell
embargo has been due to foot and mouth, embargo is bi-directional and covers meat as well. - Original Message - From: "Dave Hodgkinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 7:22 PM Subject: [OT] Food exports? > > Someone just laid what I think is a fre

Re: Election Manifestos

2001-05-22 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 06:49:01PM +0100, Leon Brocard wrote: > Cross David - dcross sent the following bits through the ether: > > > [SNIP!] > > Please fix your mailer to do proper In-Reply-To and References > headers. It's really really annoying. I *loathe* Exchange. But they fixed reference

Re: Election Manifestos

2001-05-22 Thread Martin Ling
On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 05:25:36PM +0100, Simon Cozens wrote: > > Thanks, that's going in my sigfile. Your sigfile is a mighty repository of evil. Martin

Re: Election Manifestos

2001-05-22 Thread Leon Brocard
Cross David - dcross sent the following bits through the ether: > [SNIP!] Please fix your mailer to do proper In-Reply-To and References headers. It's really really annoying. Leon -- ... Money is the root of all wealth

Re: Happy Happy Joy Joy!

2001-05-22 Thread Philip Newton
David H. Adler wrote: > dha, who thinks the overseas copies got somehow shipped before the > domestic ones... I *think* I read once that that's their policy. It's a nice move, since overseas people have to wait longer anyway -- so if their copies are shipped earlier, they might just get them no m

Re: MIME stuff - Am I missing something?

2001-05-22 Thread Philip Newton
Robert Thompson wrote: > This site contains info about the raw file formats of numerous graphic > types, including sig/header block formats. And there's always http://www.wotsit.org/ "The Programmer's File Format Collection". Cheers, Philip -- Philip Newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> All opinions are

Re: O'Reilly Safari - anyone use it?

2001-05-22 Thread Robin Szemeti
On Tue, 22 May 2001, David H. Adler wrote: > > Hey, maybe it's one of those cheapo 'made in China' jobs. Of course, > > if it paid for a Martin or a Lowden or something else equally lovely, > > then well done Mr Adler. > > Ah, I wish... > > The truth is somewhere in between. I got a Burns Marq

Re: Election Manifestos

2001-05-22 Thread Chris Heathcote
on 22/5/01 5:26 pm, Robin Szemeti wrote: >> Errr... no PR yet for general elections! > > really .. are you sure ? .. I'm certain this lot said they were going > to do something about that ... how odd. It was part of the buttering-up in case of a need for a Lib-Lab pact. It's certainly been push

Re: Election Manifestos

2001-05-22 Thread Simon Cozens
On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 05:37:23PM +0100, Roger Burton West wrote: > If you can't be bothered to take a few minutes to look, why the hell are > you posting about it? But I wanna type, I wanna type, I wanna type! Roger, where we come from we have a word for people like that. -- I did write and

Re: Election Manifestos

2001-05-22 Thread Roger Burton West
hibited. >If you have received this communication in error, please >re-send this communication to the sender and delete the >original message or any copy of it from your computer >system. And get a shell account, why don't you?

Re: Election Manifestos

2001-05-22 Thread Robin Szemeti
On Tue, 22 May 2001, Chris Heathcote wrote: > on 22/5/01 4:19 pm, Robin Szemeti wrote: > > > thank goodness for > > proportioanl representation, it should make the next parliament a lot > > more representative of what people actually want, ratehr than a choice > > between 2 (and a half ) evils. >

RE: Election Manifestos

2001-05-22 Thread Cross David - dcross
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Re: Election Manifestos

2001-05-22 Thread Simon Cozens
On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 05:16:41PM +0100, Jonathan Peterson wrote: >Labour were voted in on the basis of the Tories screw ups. Yes, so what you said about the party's previous record as, indeed, irrelevant. > Labour hasn't screwed up yet. Thanks, that's going in my sigfile. Oh, and fix your

Re: Eh up! Abysinnia!

2001-05-22 Thread Jonathan Peterson
At 12:06 22/05/01 -0400, you wrote: >If you haven't guessed, i'm from the states. Ah. So 'Mars' wasn't too close. :-) -- Jonathan Peterson Technical Manager, Unified Ltd, 020 7383 6092 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Election Manifestos

2001-05-22 Thread Jonathan Peterson
At 17:01 22/05/01 +0100, you wrote: >Right, yes, which is why we - sorry, you plural, I was way out of the country >at the time - elected Labour based on their fantastic performance last time >which lead to the General Strike and the Winter of Discontent. Sorry, a >nanosecond of thought would show

Re: Election Manifestos

2001-05-22 Thread Simon Cozens
On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 04:44:25PM +0100, Jonathan Peterson wrote: > We vote for the encumbent party until they screw up big time and then we > switch and repeat the process. Except we don't while they can arrange for elections to be when everyone's forgotten about their big screwups. Also, in fa

Re: O'Reilly Safari - anyone use it?

2001-05-22 Thread David H. Adler
On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 08:43:39AM +0100, Piers Cawley wrote: > Dave Cross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > At 23:30 21/05/2001, David H. Adler wrote: > > >On Sun, May 20, 2001 at 08:28:24AM +0100, Dave Cross wrote: > > > > > > > > Don't think anyone writes technical books for money. If they do,

Re: Election Manifestos

2001-05-22 Thread Chris Heathcote
on 22/5/01 4:46 pm, Simon Wistow wrote: > Simon Cozens wrote: > >> I've yet to hear a Labour MP talk eloquently about anything at all. Anyone >> ever talked - sorry, tried talking - to their MP about RIP? > > Harriet Harman tried to tell me that I didn't really know about > computers or the Int

Re: Election Manifestos

2001-05-22 Thread Paul Mison
On 22/05/2001 at 16:19 +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote: >the immediate feeling I get is to rent some cellars at the houses of >parliament and invest in a number of big barrels of gunpowder .. oh hang >on that ones been done before and had a distinctly negative outcome .. OK >.. perhaps someting more

Re: Election Manifestos

2001-05-22 Thread Jonathan Peterson
At 16:31 22/05/01 +0100, you wrote: >On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 04:16:16PM +0100, Chris Heathcote wrote: >> From air-conditioned tubes, thru to RIPA, to cheap petrol, it's >> bandwagon-jumping. > >Ah, congratulations! You seem to have been completely politically >brainwashed; i The cynicism of the e

Re: Election Manifestos

2001-05-22 Thread Leon Brocard
Chris Heathcote sent the following bits through the ether: > It seems that every promise in the Tory manifesto is based on hearsay It'd be okay if they were based on shaggy or fat boy slim... Leon -- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/ Iterative Software...h

Re: Election Manifestos

2001-05-22 Thread Chris Heathcote
on 22/5/01 4:19 pm, Robin Szemeti wrote: > thank goodness for > proportioanl representation, it should make the next parliament a lot > more representative of what people actually want, ratehr than a choice > between 2 (and a half ) evils. Errr... no PR yet for general elections! Slight aside,

Re: Election Manifestos

2001-05-22 Thread Simon Wistow
Simon Cozens wrote: > I've yet to hear a Labour MP talk eloquently about anything at all. Anyone > ever talked - sorry, tried talking - to their MP about RIP? Harriet Harman tried to tell me that I didn't really know about computers or the Internet. Personally I don't believe a word anybody say

Re: Election Manifestos

2001-05-22 Thread Jonathan Peterson
At 16:02 22/05/01 +0100, you wrote: >the Tory's want to repeal IR35, make RIPA less strict and speed up Local >Loop unbundling, whereas Labour want to introduce laws meaning that if >you pretend to be a teenager on the Net you can be jailed for 5 years >(bad luck bK). They are politicians. They

Re: Election Manifestos

2001-05-22 Thread Robin Szemeti
On Tue, 22 May 2001, Simon Wistow wrote: > According to the Register ... > > http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/19112.html > > the Tory's want to repeal IR35, make RIPA less strict and speed up Local > Loop unbundling, whereas Labour want to introduce laws meaning that if > you pretend to be

Re: Election Manifestos

2001-05-22 Thread Simon Cozens
On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 04:16:16PM +0100, Chris Heathcote wrote: > From air-conditioned tubes, thru to RIPA, to cheap petrol, it's > bandwagon-jumping. Ah, congratulations! You seem to have been completely politically brainwashed; it's become so de rigeur for parties to completely disregard the w

Re: Election Manifestos

2001-05-22 Thread Chris Heathcote
on 22/5/01 4:02 pm, Simon Wistow wrote: > the Tory's want to repeal IR35, make RIPA less strict and speed up Local > Loop unbundling, whereas Labour want to introduce laws meaning that if > you pretend to be a teenager on the Net you can be jailed for 5 years > (bad luck bK). It seems that every

Re: Election Manifestos

2001-05-22 Thread Roger Burton West
On or about Tue, May 22, 2001 at 04:02:33PM +0100, Simon Wistow typed: >According to the Register ... > >http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/19112.html > >the Tory's want to repeal IR35, make RIPA less strict and speed up Local >Loop unbundling, whereas Labour want to introduce laws meaning tha

Re: MIME stuff - Am I missing something?

2001-05-22 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 03:06:39PM +0100, Barbie wrote: > From: "Robert Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > From: Roger Burton West [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > > man 1 file > > > man 5 magic > > > less /usr/share/misc/magic # on many systems > > > > > > > except anything written my MS of

RE: MIME stuff - Am I missing something?

2001-05-22 Thread Robert Thompson
This site contains info about the raw file formats of numerous graphic types, including sig/header block formats. All useful for anyone wanting to play with graphics. http://www.dcs.ed.ac.uk/~mxr/gfx/ Rob --- Any views expressed in t

Re: MIME stuff - Am I missing something?

2001-05-22 Thread Barbie
From: "Robert Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > From: Roger Burton West [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > man 1 file > > man 5 magic > > less /usr/share/misc/magic # on many systems > > > > except anything written my MS of course... Which is precisely what this install of ActivePerl sits on. Luc

RE: MIME stuff - Am I missing something?

2001-05-22 Thread Robert Thompson
> From: Roger Burton West [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > man 1 file > man 5 magic > less /usr/share/misc/magic # on many systems > except anything written my MS of course... Rob --- Any views expressed in this message are those of

Re: MIME stuff - Am I missing something?

2001-05-22 Thread Roger Burton West
On or about Tue, May 22, 2001 at 02:48:17PM +0100, Robert Thompson typed: >Open up the file, read in the first few bytes and grab the magic number. >Most types of binary file have a marker of some kind to designate what they >are. Any half decent book on graphics programming should be able to tel

RE: MIME stuff - Am I missing something?

2001-05-22 Thread Robert Thompson
> > > I don't know if you are parsing mail or something else, > > Isolated file. > > > If you are trying to figure it out magically based on just > the file format > or filename or > > something (e.g. just pointing it at a raw jpeg) I didn't > think MIME:: > would help. > > Unfortunately I ha

Re: MIME stuff - Am I missing something?

2001-05-22 Thread Barbie
From: "Jonathan Peterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I don't know if you are parsing mail or something else, Isolated file. > If you are trying to figure it out magically based on just the file format or filename or > something (e.g. just pointing it at a raw jpeg) I didn't think MIME:: would help.

Re: MIME stuff - Am I missing something?

2001-05-22 Thread Barbie
From: "Dominic Mitchell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Dunno about your MIME problem (sorry), but somebody on irc mentioned > trying cpan2.org instead. Ahh! Got it. Thanks. Found the following: "Due to nonuniqueness of MIME encodings, there is a very good chance that your output will not I resemble y

Re: MIME stuff - Am I missing something?

2001-05-22 Thread Jonathan Peterson
At 13:27 22/05/01 +0100, you wrote: I don't know if you are parsing mail or something else, but in the past I've had luck with MIME::Parser using the effective_type() method to get the mime type out of emails. If you are trying to figure it out magically based on just the file format or filenam

Re: MIME stuff - Am I missing something?

2001-05-22 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 01:27:10PM +0100, Barbie wrote: > Using the code below, and calling the routine with a *.jpg file. Why does > the mime_type return "text/plain"? I've also tried using MIME::Head->read > with a filehandle and it returns the same. I would investigate CPAN further > for clues

Re: penderel going down for a little while

2001-05-22 Thread AEF
On Mon, 21 May 2001, jo walsh wrote: > please wibble at me soon if this will cause you problems, or wibble at me > or alex tomorrow if there are things you feel you're missing. I don't seem to have my yacht or my large villa in Southern France. Is this your fault? Tony

Re: O'Reilly Safari - anyone use it?

2001-05-22 Thread Piers Cawley
Dave Cross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > At 23:30 21/05/2001, David H. Adler wrote: > >On Sun, May 20, 2001 at 08:28:24AM +0100, Dave Cross wrote: > > > > > > Don't think anyone writes technical books for money. If they do, then > > > they're in for a big shock. > > > >...and you can just imagine

Re: TPC talk practice / technical meet

2001-05-21 Thread Neil Ford
On Mon, May 21, 2001 at 11:34:21PM +0100, Leon Brocard wrote: > Neil Ford sent the following bits through the ether: > > > Will you be requiring a projector for this? > > Yes please! Will you be coming down or can we send someone to borrow > your projector for the day? ;-) > > ps looks like Sim

Re: O'Reilly Safari - anyone use it?

2001-05-21 Thread Dave Cross
At 23:30 21/05/2001, David H. Adler wrote: >On Sun, May 20, 2001 at 08:28:24AM +0100, Dave Cross wrote: > > > > Don't think anyone writes technical books for money. If they do, then > > they're in for a big shock. > >...and you can just imagine how much more true that is for editing >technical boo

Re: TPC talk practice / technical meet

2001-05-21 Thread David Cantrell
folk-singer as well. Hmmm. Oh, and I'll be going with a bunch of people who're into medieval battle re-enactments. They've promised not to take their broadswords and pole-axes. -- David Cantrell | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david/ Rip, Mix, Burn, unless yo

Re: TPC talk practice / technical meet

2001-05-21 Thread Leon Brocard
Neil Ford sent the following bits through the ether: > Will you be requiring a projector for this? Yes please! Will you be coming down or can we send someone to borrow your projector for the day? ;-) ps looks like Simon Cozens will be coming down and giving a few talks too Cheers, Leon -- Leo

Re: O'Reilly Safari - anyone use it?

2001-05-21 Thread David H. Adler
On Sun, May 20, 2001 at 08:28:24AM +0100, Dave Cross wrote: > > Don't think anyone writes technical books for money. If they do, then > they're in for a big shock. ...and you can just imagine how much more true that is for editing technical books... :-) dha, used some of his editing money to b

Re: TPC talk practice / technical meet

2001-05-21 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
> Leon Brocard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > in. YAPC talks also welcome. I haven't thought of mine yet! -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms

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