[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Top luthiers of 11-courser?

2011-05-31 Thread Martyn Hodgson
converted to an 11 course lute with a string length around 76cm on a CD of French lute music from around 1670, he conceded that 'As Martyn Hodgson quite rightly points out in his letter in the last issue of Lute News (No 94), a lute the size of the Wenger should not find acceptance

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Top luthiers of 11-courser?

2011-05-31 Thread Martyn Hodgson
: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Top luthiers of 11-courser? To: Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk Cc: baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Tuesday, 31 May, 2011, 16:51 On May 31, 2011, at 10:08 AM, Martyn Hodgson wrote: Also see my correspondance with Bailes in recent issues

[LUTE] Re: Baroque Guitar in Germany?

2011-05-16 Thread Martyn Hodgson
There's a collection, now in Munich (Ms Mus 1522), dating from c 1660 and believed to have belonged to 'Adelaide di Savoya Elletrice di Bavaria' (written on the back page). It contains pieces in mixed Italian tablature and in alfabeto. You can download a digitised copy from the

[LUTE] Further to- a little Granata experiment

2011-04-11 Thread Martyn Hodgson
concerted music. However he was equally famed as a lutenist, so perhaps this is where his affectation originates MH --- On Mon, 11/4/11, Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: From: Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: a little

[LUTE] Further to- a little Granata experiment

2011-04-11 Thread Martyn Hodgson
concerted music. However he was equally famed as a lutenist, so perhaps this is where his affectation originates MH --- On Mon, 11/4/11, Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: From: Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: a little

[LUTE] Further to- a little Granata experiment

2011-04-11 Thread Martyn Hodgson
concerted music. However he was equally famed as a lutenist, so perhaps this is where his affectation originates MH --- On Mon, 11/4/11, Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: From: Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: a little

[LUTE] Further to- a little Granata experiment

2011-04-11 Thread Martyn Hodgson
concerted music. However he was equally famed as a lutenist, so perhaps this is where his affectation originates MH --- On Mon, 11/4/11, Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: From: Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: a little

[LUTE] Re: Saint-Luc again. Was: Foscarini Experience

2011-04-03 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Experience To: Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk, A. J. Ness arthurjn...@verizon.net Cc: Lutelist lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Saturday, 2 April, 2011, 19:14 MH you should feel free to suggest and speculate but until you have a cold hard fact you should continue

[LUTE] Re: Saint-Luc again. Was: Foscarini Experience

2011-04-03 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Experience To: Roland Hayes rha...@legalaidbuffalo.org Cc: Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk, A. J. Ness arthurjn...@verizon.net, Lutelist lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Saturday, 2 April, 2011, 21:17 Dear all, just an innocent question: where can you find music by Saint

[LUTE] Re: Saint-Luc again. Was: Foscarini Experience

2011-04-02 Thread Martyn Hodgson
that seems to me to be a very good thing. regards Martyn --- On Fri, 1/4/11, A. J. Ness arthurjn...@verizon.net wrote: From: A. J. Ness arthurjn...@verizon.net Subject: [LUTE] Saint-Luc again. Was: Foscarini Experience To: Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk

[LUTE] Re: Stability of lute in playing fast.

2011-04-02 Thread Martyn Hodgson
--- On Fri, 1/4/11, Mayes, Joseph ma...@rowan.edu wrote: From: Mayes, Joseph ma...@rowan.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: Stability of lute in playing fast. To: Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk, alexander voka...@verizon.net Cc: Herbert Ward wa...@physics.utexas.edu, lute

[LUTE] Re: Stability of lute in playing fast.

2011-04-01 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Dear Alexander, What evidence do you have that early lutes (I presume you're referring to 16th century instruments) were strung at a lower tension than similar size later lutes? And what evidence do you have that the tension of a guitar around 1800 was 7 Newtons? Early

[LUTE] Re: Stability of lute in playing fast.

2011-04-01 Thread Martyn Hodgson
let us have some further details? MH --- On Fri, 1/4/11, alexander voka...@verizon.net wrote: From: alexander voka...@verizon.net Subject: [LUTE] Re: Stability of lute in playing fast. To: Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk Cc: JosephMayes ma...@rowan.edu

[LUTE] Re: Stability of lute in playing fast.

2011-04-01 Thread Martyn Hodgson
...@verizon.net wrote: From: alexander voka...@verizon.net Subject: [LUTE] Re: Stability of lute in playing fast. To: Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk Cc: JosephMayes ma...@rowan.edu, Herbert Ward wa...@physics.utexas.edu, lute@cs.dartmouth.edu lute@cs.dartmouth.edu

[LUTE] Continuo and the Foscarini Experience

2011-04-01 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Interesting thoughts Chris - but I don't think people would say 'great continuo playing' if one busked in the style of, say, Scott Joplin in, say, a Bach Mass setting. In fact, the evidence is not as scant as you suggest and in practice there are generally acceptable limits for

[LUTE] Re: Stability of lute in playing fast.

2011-04-01 Thread Martyn Hodgson
strength was first described by Piccinini in 1623, later by Mace (1676) and others. MH --- On Fri, 1/4/11, alexander voka...@verizon.net wrote: From: alexander voka...@verizon.net Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Stability of lute in playing fast. To: Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar

[LUTE] Re: Continuo and the Foscarini Experience

2011-04-01 Thread Martyn Hodgson
r.turov...@verizon.net wrote: From: Roman Turovsky r.turov...@verizon.net Subject: Re: [LUTE] Continuo and the Foscarini Experience To: Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk, Christopher Wilke chriswi...@yahoo.com Cc: Lutelist lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Friday, 1

[LUTE] Re: Foscarini Experience

2011-03-31 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Well - as you both already well know - the current level of scholarship is so poor that the elder and younger Saint Jacques generally appear as one. But the real issue is that the real passion and merit of this music is lost by such a generalist approach. ythfo Martyn

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: PS to: Jacques de Saint-Luc

2011-03-25 Thread Martyn Hodgson
-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Friday, 25 March, 2011, 0:18 I think Christopher makes some interesting points. I'll comment below. - Original Message - From: Christopher Wilke [1][1]chriswi...@yahoo.com To: Martyn Hodgson [2][2]hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk; Baroque

[LUTE] Re: Losy facsimiles

2011-03-25 Thread Martyn Hodgson
A modern transcription into staff notation of all the guitar pieces appeared as volume 38 (Jan Antonin Losy 'Pieces de Guitare') of the series Musica Antiqua Bohemica (Editions Supraphon, Prague, 1979) and it also contains a few facsimile pages. The extant sources are Prague

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: PS to: Jacques de Saint-Luc

2011-03-24 Thread Martyn Hodgson
...@gamutstrings.com Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: PS to: Jacques de Saint-Luc To: Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk, Baroque lute Dmth baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Wednesday, 23 March, 2011, 22:29 Dear Martyn and all, I had some correspondence with Tim Crawford 15 years ago

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: PS to: Jacques de Saint-Luc

2011-03-24 Thread Martyn Hodgson
@gamutstrings.= com wrote: From: Edward Martin [1]e...@gamutstrings.com= br / Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: PS to: Jacques de Saint-Luc g= t; To: Martyn Hodgson [2]hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk, Baroque lute Dm= th [3]baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Wedne= sday, 23

[LUTE] Re: Wax

2011-03-24 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Use stand 'oil'. but eschew modern 'stand oil' which is just boiled linseed oil with chemical driers added and far too thin and will penetrate the wood. Proper Stand oil has the consistency of very thick treacle, does not penetrate into the wood but forms a very thin coating which

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Jacques de Saint-Luc

2011-03-23 Thread Martyn Hodgson
The dates of this composer are generally given as 1616 - 1710 which seems a phenomenal life span for the time and even more so when his extant lute works seem to be in the style of the early decades of the 18th century (even down to fashionable doubling of the top and bottom line

[BAROQUE-LUTE] PS to: Jacques de Saint-Luc

2011-03-23 Thread Martyn Hodgson
individuals with the same, or similar,names. The players are Jacques Vandeville oboe and Daniel Fournier lute (and theorbo!). MH --- On Wed, 23/3/11, Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: From: Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: Jacques de Saint-Luc

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Other de Gallots....

2011-03-21 Thread Martyn Hodgson
To: Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk Cc: Lutelist l...@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Sunday, 20 March, 2011, 16:59 According to the title page Ms. Mus.Sch. C.94 was actually copied by Gallot's tres humbles et affectionne seruitur Monnier. The pieces are by at least two Gallot

[LUTE] Other de Gallot families....

2011-03-21 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Gallots Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 15:40:26 +0100 From: Martyn Hodgson [3]hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk To: Grzegorz Joachimiak [4]gjoachim...@wp.pl Cc: lute List [5]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu, Martin Shepherd [6]mar...@luteshop.co.uk What about the guitar de

[LUTE] Re: Odp: Other de Gallots....

2011-03-20 Thread Martyn Hodgson
/3/11, Grzegorz Joachimiak gjoachim...@wp.pl wrote: From: Grzegorz Joachimiak gjoachim...@wp.pl Subject: Odp: [LUTE] Other de Gallots To: Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk, mathias.roe...@t-online.de Cc: lute List lute@cs.dartmouth.edu, Martin Shepherd mar

[LUTE] Re: Beef gut strings

2011-03-18 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Universale, part of a larger Italian group, has been offering these for some time (I wonder if trhey're the same?) but I've never seen reports about them. Possibly because the company doesn't target its marketing at the 'early music' field. MH --- On Thu, 17/3/11, Sean Smith

[LUTE] Re: Ribbons to hold (baroque) lutes WAS Re: Strap slips off left shoulder.

2011-03-15 Thread Martyn Hodgson
...@nancycarlinassociates.com wrote: From: Nancy Carlin na...@nancycarlinassociates.com Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Ribbons to hold (baroque) lutes WAS Re: Strap slips off left shoulder. To: Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk, lute@cs.dartmouth.edu, Anthony Hind agno3ph

[LUTE] Ribbons to hold (baroque) lutes WAS Re: Strap slips off left shoulder.

2011-03-11 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Dear Anthony, We discussed using ribbons or tapes fastened to an end botton and a neck button to hold lutes fairly recently (2009 in fact). The problem mentioned then was that the set-up was pretty unstable (a sort of rotary effect was even mentioned) and certainly I found it

[LUTE] Corbetta's songs

2011-02-21 Thread Martyn Hodgson
in 1671: he was born in 1644. Martyn --- On Mon, 21/2/11, Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk wrote: From: Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk Subject: [LUTE] Re: Jaques-Martin Hotteterre To: Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk Cc: Lutelist lute@cs.dartmouth.edu

[LUTE] Re: Holbein painting - precision and accuracy

2011-02-09 Thread Martyn Hodgson
') to the lute (as Dowland and later required). Martyn --- On Tue, 8/2/11, Anthony Hind agno3ph...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Anthony Hind agno3ph...@yahoo.com Subject: Re : [LUTE] Re: Holbein painting [Google Art project] frets and bridge To: Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk

[LUTE] Re: Holbein painting [Google Art project] frets and bridge

2011-02-08 Thread Martyn Hodgson
, Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk Cc: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Tuesday, 8 February, 2011, 14:35 Dear Ed, Martyn, and All, As you lecture on this painting, and until now, I have only given it an admirative, but casual look, may I formulate a few questions

[LUTE] Re: Future facsimiles from the Lute Society

2011-02-03 Thread Martyn Hodgson
the Lute Society To: Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk Cc: 'lute net' lute@cs.dartmouth.edu, Denys Stephens denyssteph...@sky.com, lute...@aol.com Date: Wednesday, 2 February, 2011, 17:59 Dear Martyn, the digital download is still available on Richard Civiol's site

[LUTE] Re: Future facsimiles from the Lute Society

2011-02-02 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Dear Denys, That the Lord Herbert Of Cherbury facsimile is next on the Society's facsimile publication list is good news indeed - thank you. For those who can't wait, there was a digital download available on the internet a couple of years ago and for the most part pretty

[LUTE] Re: new piece of the month

2011-02-01 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Dear Martin, We've discussed this business of different sizes of lutes before and I very much agree with your observations, both about becoming used to a particular size and also that much of the repertoire can be played comfortably on larger lutes. I think what also needs to

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: polonaises

2011-01-29 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Quite a lot for mandora - if you count this as a 'lute' MH --- On Sat, 29/1/11, Roman Turovsky r.turov...@verizon.net wrote: From: Roman Turovsky r.turov...@verizon.net Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] polonaises To: BAROQUE-LUTE baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Date:

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: polonaises 'per il Gallichona'

2011-01-29 Thread Martyn Hodgson
--0-1146046691-1296292639=:55291 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   Further to my last, I thought you both might like to see an example from the collection 'Tre Serenata / Per il Gallichona'  Dresden 2701.   Mandora/gallichon in

[LUTE] Re: Italian songs

2011-01-21 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Helen, Rather later than I think you were looking for, but nevertheless may interest you, is the Bottegari Lute Book which contains vocal works with lute tablature from the later 16th century. An edition was done (by Wellesley Editions) in 1965 which transcribes the tablature into

[LUTE-BUILDER] Re: Mandora

2011-01-19 Thread Martyn Hodgson
I don't know the CD but presume it's the early small mandora (usually 4 course). Stuart Walsh knows a lot about these - I'll copy him into this. MH --- On Wed, 19/1/11, Mark Day lautenmac...@gmail.com wrote: From: Mark Day lautenmac...@gmail.com Subject:

[LUTE] Re: Shakespeare settings

2011-01-12 Thread Martyn Hodgson
You might try Moretti's (Pepys guitar teacher/arranger/servant) setting of 'To be or not to be' for baritone and guitar! Whilst not the finest music the novelty certainly goes down well with audiences. More straightforwardly look at: CHILCOT's splendid ' Twelve English songs'

[LUTE] Re: Agazzari

2011-01-12 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Indeed - but are 'accenti muti' perhaps something a little different - ie with the second of the pair immediately damped - see my email below (not copied to the general list!) rgds Martyn --- On Wed, 12/1/11, Martin Shepherd mar...@luteshop.co.uk wrote: From: Martin

[LUTE] Re: Agazzari

2011-01-12 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Martin, The earlier email accidentaly missed off my last to you M Giuliano, Might 'accenti muti' mean a slurred pair with the second note being immediately muted (by the left hand) once sounded? Such a grace marking is found in staff notation notated by a

[LUTE] Re: Kapsperger's temperament and more generally

2011-01-09 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Dear Andrew, The problem with a lot of writing about unequal temperament on the lute is that it's either written by many who base their conclusions almost entirely on keyboard practice (where, of course, with individual keys one can indeed make a deliberate choice between a

[LUTE] Re: RV93 - OT... what's this?

2011-01-06 Thread Martyn Hodgson
: From: Stuart Walsh s.wa...@ntlworld.com Subject: Re: [LUTE] RV93 - OT... what's this? To: Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk Cc: Lute Dmth lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Wednesday, 5 January, 2011, 22:30 On 04/01/2011 09:39, Martyn Hodgson wrote

[LUTE] Re: RV93 - which instrument?

2011-01-06 Thread Martyn Hodgson
: From: Christopher Wilke chriswi...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: RV93 - which instrument? To: lute-cs.dartmouth.edu lute@cs.dartmouth.edu, David Tayler vidan...@sbcglobal.net, Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk Date: Thursday, 6 January, 2011, 13:53 Martyn

[LUTE] Re: RV93 - which instrument?

2011-01-05 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Subject: [LUTE] Re: RV93 - which instrument? To: Lute Dmth lute@cs.dartmouth.edu, Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk Date: Tuesday, 4 January, 2011, 20:56 See below. - Original Message - From: Martyn Hodgson [1]hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk To: Lute Dmth [2]l

[LUTE] Re: RV93 - which instrument?

2011-01-05 Thread Martyn Hodgson
What is the evidence for your assertion that Vivaldi generally did not take into account individual instrumental requirements in his compositions and that accordingly most of his compositions were played on any instrument to hand? Of course you can play RV93 on the banjo if that

[LUTE] Re: RV93 - which instrument?

2011-01-05 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Thank you for this. Regarding what you say you meant, this is what you wrote Unfortunately with Vivaldi, the fact that it may be difficult to play or go off the range is absolutely not relevant, as is the case in his other concertos. Remember this is the guy who writes the

[LUTE] Re: RV93 - which instrument?

2011-01-05 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Date: Wednesday, 5 January, 2011, 16:10 Greetings Martyn et alia, Reply interspersed below. -Original Message- From: [1]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:[2]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Martyn Hodgson Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 4:39 AM

[LUTE] Re: RV93 - which instrument?

2011-01-05 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Thank you fr ths. I'm pleased you now accept that a 'violone' does not always (or indeed generally) indicate a double bass instrument. If you care to examine relevant journals (even the internet!) you'll find that the subject has been looked into over the years. You'll also see

[LUTE] RV93 - which instrument?

2011-01-04 Thread Martyn Hodgson
The relatively low pitching of the mandora makes it an unlikely candidate as the instrument Vivaldi conceived for RV93 and also for RV 82 and 85 (all composed in the 1720s?): not only because of the resulting unidiomatic high tessitura of these 'leuto' pieces on the mandora but

[LUTE] Re: Pyramid wound strings

2010-12-27 Thread Martyn Hodgson
When I first started playing lute, many moons ago, Pyramid strings were virtually the only ones available in a variety of sizes/specifications which one could personally select. The majority of players therefore used their strings. At that time one could also order (for the same

[LUTE] Kraków, Biblioteka Jagiellońska, Mus. ms 40 032 (olim Berlin)

2010-12-22 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Is there an online listing WITH concordances of the contents of this Ms? -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Chitarra battente stringing

2010-12-21 Thread Martyn Hodgson
I replied earlier with my experience of chitarra battente stringing; perhaps it got lost in the ether! Here it is again: Re: [LUTE] Chitarra battente stringing Saturday, 18 December, 2010 14:07 From: Martyn Hodgson [1]hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk To: [2]l...@cs.dartmouth.edu, Lucas

[LUTE] Re: lute piece by Brian Wright (and fret n)

2010-12-18 Thread Martyn Hodgson
He stopped the notes in the same way as all other contemporary lutenists did before glued-on frets became general: by depressing the string to the belly. MH --- On Fri, 17/12/10, Edward Mast nedma...@aol.com wrote: From: Edward Mast nedma...@aol.com Subject: [LUTE] Re:

[LUTE] Re: lute question

2010-12-18 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Not on the basis of icomography and historical sources. Bear in mind it may have been made for someone who specifically ordered a single second. I seem to recall that Julian Bream had a single second on one (or more?) of his lutes - presumably to make it feel a little closer to

[LUTE] Re: lute piece by Brian Wright (and fret n)

2010-12-14 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Piccinini 1639 goes up to the 19th fret on page 1. But probably not using glued on frets - just by depressing to the belly. MH --- On Tue, 14/12/10, Stuart Walsh s.wa...@ntlworld.com wrote: From: Stuart Walsh s.wa...@ntlworld.com Subject: [LUTE] Re: lute piece by Brian

[LUTE] Re: KF Harp strings and other types

2010-12-11 Thread Martyn Hodgson
! regards Martyn From: Anthony Hind agno3ph...@yahoo.com Subject: KF Harp strings and other types To: Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk, mar...@luteshop.co.uk Cc: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Friday, 10 December, 2010, 23:52 Dear Martyn and Martin

[LUTE] Re: KF Harp strings and other types

2010-12-11 Thread Martyn Hodgson
' --- On Sat, 11/12/10, Anthony Hind agno3ph...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Anthony Hind agno3ph...@yahoo.com Subject: Re : KF Harp strings and other types To: Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk Cc: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Saturday, 11 December, 2010, 9:02 Dear Martyn

[LUTE] Re: Re New Savarez harp strings?

2010-12-10 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Thank you for this Martin and Anthony. These strings are interesting as a further alternative to loaded, wire wound and the 'spring' string; especially for those with a large number of instruments to string. I looked into these Saverez KF strings some time ago (are you sure

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: French Baroque Lute Music from 1650-1700

2010-11-30 Thread Martyn Hodgson
No attachments --- On Tue, 30/11/10, ro...@rolfhamre.com ro...@rolfhamre.com wrote: From: ro...@rolfhamre.com ro...@rolfhamre.com Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: French Baroque Lute Music from 1650-1700 To: l...@manassero.net, tade...@mac.com Cc:

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Weiss duets for lute and harpsichord

2010-11-28 Thread Martyn Hodgson
I have a copy of the Salzburg Lautencodex Ms III 25 which contains these Weiss works (mostly for liutho, violino and basso but only the lute tablature survives). Other composers include: Meckh, Block(Bloch), Lauf(f)ensteiner, Bohr. I have no evidence that the Weiss pieces in this

[LUTE] Re: tying two strings together (in process of changing from 407Hz to 392)?

2010-11-27 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Subject: Re : Tr : [LUTE] Re: tying two strings together (in process of changing from 407Hz to 392)? To: Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk Date: Friday, 26 November, 2010, 17:41 Those were great research papers. I thought there was a plan to have this start up again

[LUTE] Re: tying two strings together (in process of changing from 407Hz to 392)?

2010-11-24 Thread Martyn Hodgson
][9]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Martyn Hodgson Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 8:05 AM To: [4][10]l...@cs.dartmouth.edu; Anthony Hind Subject: [LUTE] Re: tying two strings of different thickness together? I use a reef knot - but secured with a drop

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Weiss duets for lute and harpsichord

2010-11-22 Thread Martyn Hodgson
There's also similar pieces for mandora/gallichon and clavicembalo eg 'Sei Sonate/Per le/Clavicembalo/ ed una Mandora' by Knerferle. I suggest a date of around 1780/90. The lute instrument required is a large gallichon (aka mandora) in B. ie not the relatively smaller instrument

[LUTE] Re: tying two strings of different thickness together?

2010-11-22 Thread Martyn Hodgson
I use a reef knot - but secured with a drop of super glue --- On Mon, 22/11/10, Anthony Hind agno3ph...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Anthony Hind agno3ph...@yahoo.com Subject: [LUTE] tying two strings of different thickness together? To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Date:

[LUTE] Re: NGE strings

2010-11-14 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Mimo has been in London for the last few days. MH --- On Sun, 14/11/10, Luca Manassero l...@manassero.net wrote: From: Luca Manassero l...@manassero.net Subject: [LUTE] Re: NGE strings To: List LUTELIST lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Sunday, 14 November, 2010, 15:07

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Wenzel von Radolt

2010-11-08 Thread Martyn Hodgson
von Radolt To: Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk, baroque-l...@cs.dartmouth.edu, Edward Martin e...@gamutstrings.com, Bernd Haegemann b...@symbol4.de, Christopher Wilke chriswi...@yahoo.com Date: Sunday, 7 November, 2010, 15:49 Thanks to all who have responded

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Wenzel von Radolt

2010-11-07 Thread Martyn Hodgson
See my paper in FoMRHI Quarterly No 44 July 1986 C-737 : 'Von Radolt's instructions to lute players (Wien 1701)' This gives a translation of the instructions and a commentary on the lute sizes/pitches required. MH --- On Sat, 6/11/10, Edward Martin e...@gamutstrings.com

[LUTE] Re: OT: Baroque Guitar technique

2010-11-01 Thread Martyn Hodgson
It depends on the player MH --- On Sun, 31/10/10, Suzanne Angevine suzanne.angev...@gmail.com wrote: From: Suzanne Angevine suzanne.angev...@gmail.com Subject: [LUTE] OT: Baroque Guitar technique To: Lute List lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Sunday, 31 October, 2010,

[LUTE] Re: OT: 19th C guitar

2010-11-01 Thread Martyn Hodgson
A louder, if not more pleasant, sound. MH --- On Sun, 31/10/10, Suzanne Angevine suzanne.angev...@gmail.com wrote: From: Suzanne Angevine suzanne.angev...@gmail.com Subject: [LUTE] OT: 19th C guitar To: Lute List lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Sunday, 31 October,

[LUTE] Re: OT: 19th C guitar

2010-11-01 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Well, to be strictly accurate, we weren't asked whether the makers succeeded but what their aim might have been. As an aside, other ideas around at the time to increase bass response were the use of what were often termed 'bass guitars' (or similar names) which had additional

[LUTE] Re: Lute volume

2010-10-20 Thread Martyn Hodgson
is that it is better for people to hear and enjoy amplified lute music on such occasions, than not hear and not enjoy HIP lute music without amplification. I don't see anything odd about that. Best wishes, Stewart. -Original Message- From: Martyn Hodgson

[LUTE] Re: Lute volume

2010-10-20 Thread Martyn Hodgson
--- On Wed, 20/10/10, Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: From: Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Lute volume To: Christopher Wilke chriswi...@yahoo.com Date: Wednesday, 20 October, 2010, 14:26 I very much agree with your

[LUTE-BUILDER] Re: [neemf] Soundboard wood for sale

2010-10-20 Thread Martyn Hodgson
This may be of interest: I have no knowledge of the quality of the wood. As luck would have it, I've just bought a stock which will see me out Martyn --- On Tue, 19/10/10, Marion Bolton dhbol...@ntlworld.com wrote: From: Marion Bolton dhbol...@ntlworld.com Subject:

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Corrrecting mistakes and mistaking corrections...

2010-10-13 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Dear Stewart, The relaxed speed is, I suspect, because she's dancing a 17th century French courante - tho' perhaps even a bit too relaxed in this example. Many courantes found in Austro-germanic sources are in the Italian manner. M --- On Wed, 13/10/10, Stewart McCoy

[LUTE] Re: Carbon strings + Titanium Nylon?

2010-10-07 Thread Martyn Hodgson
agno3ph...@yahoo.com Subject: Re : Re : [LUTE] Re: Carbon strings + Titanium Nylon? To: Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk Cc: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Wednesday, 6 October, 2010, 18:21 Dear Martyn I do agree with the general tendancy of what you seem

[LUTE] Re: Carbon strings + Titanium Nylon?

2010-10-07 Thread Martyn Hodgson
de Martyn Hodgson Envoye : mercredi 6 octobre 2010 17:38 A : [3]l...@cs.dartmouth.edu; Sauvage Valery Objet : [LUTE] Re: Carbon strings + Titanium Nylon? But they didn't have such strings. If we are trying to seek the sounds heard by the Old Ones it's necessary to start

[LUTE] Re: Carbon strings + Titanium Nylon?

2010-10-07 Thread Martyn Hodgson
--- On Wed, 6/10/10, Mayes, Joseph ma...@rowan.edu wrote: From: Mayes, Joseph ma...@rowan.edu Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Carbon strings + Titanium Nylon? To: Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk, Edward Martin e...@gamutstrings.com, Anthony Hind agno3ph...@yahoo.com Cc: lute

[LUTE] Re: Carbon strings + Titanium Nylon?

2010-10-07 Thread Martyn Hodgson
someone try the new Nylgut ? -Message d'origine- De : [1]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:[2]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] De la part de Martyn Hodgson Envoye : mercredi 6 octobre 2010 17:38 A : [3]l...@cs.dartmouth.edu; Sauvage Valery Objet : [LUTE] Re

[LUTE] Re: Carbon strings + Titanium Nylon?

2010-10-06 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Dear Anthony, This seems a very retrograde step. Surely if we are wishing to hear something even approaching how the Old Ones sounded we ought to eschew treble strings which are so very different from what they had. Clearly gut was generally used for trebles and there's no reason

[LUTE] Re: Carbon strings + Titanium Nylon?

2010-10-06 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Where does Pepys say a single strand of hair? --- On Wed, 6/10/10, alexander voka...@verizon.net wrote: From: alexander voka...@verizon.net Subject: [LUTE] Re: Carbon strings + Titanium Nylon? To: Anthony Hind agno3ph...@yahoo.com Cc: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Date:

[LUTE] Re: Carbon strings + Titanium Nylon?

2010-10-06 Thread Martyn Hodgson
strings + Titanium Nylon? To: Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk, Edward Martin e...@gamutstrings.com, Anthony Hind agno3ph...@yahoo.com Cc: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Wednesday, 6 October, 2010, 12:40 From: Martyn Hodgson [1]hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk This seems a very

[LUTE] Re: Carbon strings + Titanium Nylon?

2010-10-06 Thread Martyn Hodgson
: Carbon strings + Titanium Nylon? To: Edward Martin e...@gamutstrings.com, Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk, Anthony Hind agno3ph...@yahoo.com Cc: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Wednesday, 6 October, 2010, 13:04 Just to be contrary, I should point out

[LUTE] Re: Carbon strings + Titanium Nylon?

2010-10-06 Thread Martyn Hodgson
-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:[2]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] De la part de Martyn Hodgson Envoye : mercredi 6 octobre 2010 15:06 A : Edward Martin; Anthony Hind; JosephMayes Cc : [3]l...@cs.dartmouth.edu Objet : [LUTE] Re: Carbon strings + Titanium Nylon? Well, we don't know

[LUTE] Re: Carbon strings + Titanium Nylon?

2010-10-06 Thread Martyn Hodgson
, 6/10/10, Anthony Hind agno3ph...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Anthony Hind agno3ph...@yahoo.com Subject: Re : [LUTE] Re: Carbon strings + Titanium Nylon? To: Edward Martin e...@gamutstrings.com, Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk, Edward Mast nedma...@aol.com, alexander

[LUTE] Re: New Nylgut?

2010-09-19 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Mimo Peruffo has asked for this to be forwarded to the list. MH --- On Sat, 18/9/10, aqu...@aquilacorde.com aqu...@aquilacorde.com wrote: From: aqu...@aquilacorde.com aqu...@aquilacorde.com Subject: Re: [LUTE] New Nylgut? To: Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk

[LUTE] Re: Marco dall'Aquila / O'Dette

2010-09-08 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Dear Narada, I've played at Oakwell Hall (both solo lute and with a band) a number of times in the past and can confirm it's a good venue for acoustics. However this was a number of years ago when local Arts funding was more generous and the management of places like Oakwell were

[LUTE] Re: Giovanni Krebar, 1629 and his liuto attiorbato

2010-09-04 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Do we know the string lengths of this instrument? MH --- On Fri, 3/9/10, Luca Manassero l...@manassero.net wrote: From: Luca Manassero l...@manassero.net Subject: [LUTE] Giovanni Krebar, 1629 and his liuto attiorbato To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Friday, 3

[LUTE] Re: Castaldi

2010-09-04 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Tiorba player's snobbery I suspect! MH --- On Fri, 3/9/10, wikla wi...@cs.helsinki.fi wrote: From: wikla wi...@cs.helsinki.fi Subject: [LUTE] Re: Castaldi To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Cc: vihu...@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Friday, 3 September, 2010, 21:28 Thanks

[LUTE] Re: Re Re: geared pegs and [Wolfgang's peg turner]

2010-06-21 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Also, somewhat contra-intuitive, try tightening the string first - not releasing it - to break the static friction and any residual wedging of peg paste. Then release the tension. MH --- On Mon, 21/6/10, Martin Shepherd mar...@luteshop.co.uk wrote: From: Martin Shepherd

[LUTE] Re: baroque mandolins etc---not forgetting the French mandore

2010-06-02 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Very interesting that you'd normally string a mandolino at around 2.3/2.4 Kg. This question of (low?) tension is precisely what sparked the current round of exchanges. I'd suggested a tension of around 2Kg might be looked at for mandolino finger style (based on scaled lute

[LUTE] Re: Not forgetting the French air de cour

2010-06-02 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Indeed. One of the concerts I'm planning for next year will focus on Moulinie's (with theorbo and guitar) and also the later fine works by Lambert and Le Camus. We know that the latter wrote out their theorbo accompaniments in tablature - do we know if any survive? - from their

[LUTE] Re: baroque mandolins etc--- tensions and kgs?

2010-05-31 Thread Martyn Hodgson
in bewilderment, one should pick up a 5- or 6-course mandolino and pluck a few notes with the fingers. It's not so bad. Best, Eugene - Original Message - From: Martyn Hodgson [3]hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk Date: Sunday, May 30, 2010 4:09 am

[LUTE] Re: baroque mandolins etc--- tensions and kgs?

2010-05-31 Thread Martyn Hodgson
exacerbate issues of inconsistency. Best, Eugene - Original Message - From: Martyn Hodgson [1]hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk Date: Monday, May 31, 2010 2:51 am Subject: [LUTE] Re: baroque mandolins etc--- tensions and kgs? To: Lute List [2]l

[LUTE] Re: baroque mandolins etc--- tensions and kgs?

2010-05-31 Thread Martyn Hodgson
--- On Mon, 31/5/10, David Tayler vidan...@sbcglobal.net wrote: From: David Tayler vidan...@sbcglobal.net Subject: [LUTE] Re: baroque mandolins etc--- tensions and kgs? To: lute-cs.dartmouth.edu lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Monday, 31 May, 2010, 15:38 The lutenist Szabo

[LUTE] Re: baroque mandolins - string tensions, single/double courses experiment

2010-05-30 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Have you tried a significantly lower tension as suggested earlier? What is the tension you're currently using? Again, I'm also not quite sure what a recording can tell us of 'live' volume etc. M --- On Sat, 29/5/10, Stuart Walsh s.wa...@ntlworld.com wrote: From: Stuart

[LUTE] Re: baroque mandolins etc--- tensions and kgs?

2010-05-30 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Dear Eugene, There is really is no difficulty here. The heart of the matter is that tension needs to be related to string length, so that with similar instruments, bigger ones (and used eg Dowland as said)) higher tension than their smaller counterparts - see the earlier

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