, 2009 1:09 PM
Subject: RE: 3 features that hmm?
Hi Donna and All,
I'll offer my opinion as a current Windows user. As I enter
MacLand, one
of
the most valuable benefits of this list has been what those of you
who are
current Mac users offer, and that's perspective. I have a pretty
best interests at heart are very narrow minded when it coems to
technological matters as well as others.
- Original Message -
From: Les Kriegler krieg...@nycap.rr.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 1:09 PM
Subject: RE: 3 features that hmm?
Hi Donna
post on this topic. I think this thread has
run its course.
Best,
Donna
-Original Message-
From: Dan Eickmeier va3...@yahoo.ca
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 3:02 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: 3 features that hmm?
Well said John. When Vista came out, I wasn't
.
- Original Message -
From: Scott Howell s.how...@verizon.net
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 7:39 PM
Subject: Re: 3 features that hmm?
Come on this is crazy. You just can't imagine the number of people who
bitched and complained about this whole editing
you never
heard mentioned before the B.
Brent
- Original Message -
From: James Nash james.austin1...@googlemail.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 8:17 PM
Subject: Re: 3 features that hmm?
Personally, I find the Mac way of editing more intutitive
My recollection is the way the windows-based screen readers handle the
cursor is from the DOS days and has not changed, even though for
sighted windows users it has . Now of course your testing my memory
from a very long time ago. :)
On Aug 31, 2009, at 11:58 AM, Brent Harding wrote:
I
think this
thread has run its course.
Best,
Donna
-Original Message-
From: Dan Eickmeier va3...@yahoo.ca
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 3:02 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: 3 features that hmm?
Well said John. When Vista came out, I wasn't impressed
Well said Donna!!!
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 29, 2009, at 11:06 PM, Donna Goodin goodi...@msu.edu wrote:
Hello all,
I have to support Rich here. The attitude displayed by many Mac users
toward Windows, and toward Windows users who are doing their best to
learn
the Mac OS is frankly
and convenient to have options
and multiple ways of doing things.
Take care all
James
- Original Message -
From: Donna Goodin goodi...@msu.edu
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 4:06 AM
Subject: RE: 3 features that hmm?
Hello all,
I have to support Rich here
find the one that is the best fit
for them.
Take care,
Donna
-Original Message-
From: Maxwell Ivey Jr. maxwelli...@aol.com
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 11:44 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: 3 features that hmm?
Hi Donna; It could have just been me
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 7:45 PM
Subject: Re: 3 features that hmm?
think I did say I was glad of the choice, just sad apple had to
accomodate those who find it impossible to edit text in the way it is
meant to be edited. they are features that yes
here here! but they seem to play into the way of thinking that Vi's
need to have a product specifically designed. sure a screen reader
should do what jaws and window eyes does on that platform, read the
contents of the screen and allow the user to interact succesfully.
However, it is
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: 3 features that hmm?
I completely agree Max. Editing wasn't hard for me to learn, but web
browsing and getting used to where certain things are in the system has been
more of a challenge. And at least five times a day I still press Enter
instead of Command-O
.
Take care
James
- Original Message -
From: Marie Howarth marie.jane2...@gmail.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 12:06 PM
Subject: Re: 3 features that hmm?
here here! but they seem to play into the way of thinking that Vi's
need to have a product
.
Hope you got some sleep. Good to know I'm not the only insomniac on the list.
:)
Take care,
Donna
-Original Message-
From: Maxwell Ivey Jr. maxwelli...@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 4:49 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: 3 features that hmm?
Hi donna; well
It wouldn't have been a priority for me, either. I just don't think it's the
end of the world now that it's here.
Donna
-Original Message-
From: Scott Howell s.how...@verizon.net
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 5:41 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: 3 features that hmm
probably already gotten more
attention than it should have.
Take care,
Donna
-Original Message-
From: Scott Howell s.how...@verizon.net
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 5:46 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: 3 features that hmm?
Well stated Donna and all my jabs at windows really
as other things. It is always nice and convenient to have
options
and multiple ways of doing things.
Take care all
James
- Original Message -
From: Donna Goodin goodi...@msu.edu
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 4:06 AM
Subject: RE: 3 features that hmm
at heart are very narrow minded when it coems to
technological matters as well as others.
- Original Message -
From: Les Kriegler krieg...@nycap.rr.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 1:09 PM
Subject: RE: 3 features that hmm?
Hi Donna and All,
I'll
...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Buddy Brannan
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 12:39 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: 3 features that hmm?
I agree: choice is not a bad thing. I use all three (Windows, Mac, and
GNU/Linux) for different things. While my main fun downtime machine
...@verizon.net
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 5:46 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: 3 features that hmm?
Well stated Donna and all my jabs at windows really is more poking
fun, but I still can't stand windows and glad to have a choice. I use
windows at work
to
technological matters as well as others.
- Original Message -
From: Les Kriegler krieg...@nycap.rr.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 1:09 PM
Subject: RE: 3 features that hmm?
Hi Donna and All,
I'll offer my opinion as a current Windows user. As I
I agree with the fact of extreme prejudice on the part of windows
users toward Mac. Everyone, from Rehab people to friends to tech
people within the California system, attempted to persuade me against
switching to a Mac. The person who delivered the Mac to me said,
Don't worry; when
.
Take care all
James
- Original Message -
From: Donna Goodin goodi...@msu.edu
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 4:06 AM
Subject: RE: 3 features that hmm?
Hello all,
I have to support Rich here. The attitude displayed by many Mac
users
toward
Well whadda ya know, we were agreeing all along lol! The original
paragraph I wrote about asking Apple to remove the feature was only
really there to help explain why as much as I'd like it to not exist,
I'd find it impossible to explain to Apple why that's the case,
because no matter how well
well, this is purely my opinion but 3 features that horribly remind me
of windows are as follows.
1. automatic reading of a webpage.
2. voice over hints. I know what to do in a text area, especially when
it already says edit text.
3. insertion point. this has been discussed, it's counter
Well good for you, I'm glad you did not need these features and you
learned the way we all started out. However, of course the only plus
side is that for those who want to make the transition and really find
what we grew up with difficult, will at least have a way to ease
their
to the Mac or for
those users who like using the Windows-style insertion method.
- Original Message -
From: Marie Howarth marie.jane2...@gmail.com
Cc: macvoiceo...@freelists.org; macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 11:17 PM
Subject: 3 features that hmm?
well
Also just my oppinion, but I disagree about points 1 and 2.
Can't say I ever have used feature numero uno in any OS as there are
so few webpages I'd actually want to read 100% of their content, but
someone somewhere will find it useful. You could argue that the
reading webpages automatically is
: Saturday, August 29, 2009 7:45 PM
Subject: Re: 3 features that hmm?
think I did say I was glad of the choice, just sad apple had to
accomodate those who find it impossible to edit text in the way it is
meant to be edited. they are features that yes, fine they are here
now, just weren't really missing
@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 1:39 AM
Subject: Re: 3 features that hmm?
Come on this is crazy. You just can't imagine the number of people who
bitched and complained about this whole editing issue and I believe
Apple was taken to task by one of the rags put out by the NFB
Absolutely - all opinions are welcome smile
- Original Message -
From: Marie Howarth marie.jane2...@gmail.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 1:45 AM
Subject: Re: 3 features that hmm?
think I did say I was glad of the choice, just sad apple had
Hello; Just speaking for myself the hardest adjustment i had to make
when moving to a mac was getting used to the way you have to edit
text. Now, that I understand it, it is second nature; but it was a
real headache in the beginning. Another one that was a tough one to
get my mind
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: 3 features that hmm?
With all respect, I am sure there was a time when you were a beginner.
I am
an extremely competent Windows user. This doesn't in and of itself
make me
the spawn of Satan, it is simply a statement concerning my current
technological
Nice post, Max.
Donna
-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Maxwell Ivey Jr.
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 9:29 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: 3 features that hmm?
Hello; Just
[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Maxwell Ivey
Jr.
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 9:29 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: 3 features that hmm?
Hello; Just speaking for myself the hardest adjustment i had to make
when moving to a mac was getting used to the way you
Of Maxwell Ivey Jr.
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 11:16 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: 3 features that hmm?
Thanks donna; only wish my transition from doss to windows had been
as easy. That was a real mind cramp sort of thing. Take care, Max
On Aug 29, 2009, at 10:07 PM
: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Maxwell Ivey
Jr.
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 11:16 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: 3 features that hmm?
Thanks donna; only wish my transition from doss to windows had been
as easy
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