[MBZ] question that appears political
here is a question for you war on terror wonks. you cannot get into this place without proper clearance on land. i once tried to ride my bicycle in and guys were on me like white on rice. but i can get in there by water via canoe as much as i like 24/7. doesn't this kind of indicate that the anti terror stuff is kind of a sham maybe? https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=enq=port%20evergladesgbv=2um=1ie=UTF-8sa=Ntab=wl -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] question that appears political
This is just one more example of the limitations of security thinking which (IMO) generally creates more problems/cost for the good guys than the bad guys. -Original Message- From: Gary Hurst Subject: [MBZ] question that appears political here is a question for you war on terror wonks. you cannot get into this place without proper clearance on land. i once tried to ride my bicycle in and guys were on me like white on rice. but i can get in there by water via canoe as much as i like 24/7. doesn't this kind of indicate that the anti terror stuff is kind of a sham maybe? https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=enq=port%20evergladesgbv=2um=1ie=UTF- 8sa=Ntab=wl -- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] question that appears political
absolutely. some guy grabbing my genitals when i try to get on an airplane does nothing to stop me just walking on an amtrak train and doing whatever i like. security thinking is so limited that i wonder if it isn't just a ruse, a cynical fraud and confidence game. On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 2:37 AM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: This is just one more example of the limitations of security thinking which (IMO) generally creates more problems/cost for the good guys than the bad guys. -Original Message- From: Gary Hurst Subject: [MBZ] question that appears political here is a question for you war on terror wonks. you cannot get into this place without proper clearance on land. i once tried to ride my bicycle in and guys were on me like white on rice. but i can get in there by water via canoe as much as i like 24/7. doesn't this kind of indicate that the anti terror stuff is kind of a sham maybe? https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=enq=port%20evergladesgbv=2um=1ie=UTF- 8sa=Ntab=wl -- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] question that appears political
Gotta keep the sheeple in line. Mike On Sep 21, 2013 2:42 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: absolutely. some guy grabbing my genitals when i try to get on an airplane does nothing to stop me just walking on an amtrak train and doing whatever i like. security thinking is so limited that i wonder if it isn't just a ruse, a cynical fraud and confidence game. On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 2:37 AM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: This is just one more example of the limitations of security thinking which (IMO) generally creates more problems/cost for the good guys than the bad guys. -Original Message- From: Gary Hurst Subject: [MBZ] question that appears political here is a question for you war on terror wonks. you cannot get into this place without proper clearance on land. i once tried to ride my bicycle in and guys were on me like white on rice. but i can get in there by water via canoe as much as i like 24/7. doesn't this kind of indicate that the anti terror stuff is kind of a sham maybe? https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=enq=port%20evergladesgbv=2um=1ie=UTF- 8sa=Ntab=wl -- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Namez
Goes way back guysGary knows. Mike On Sep 20, 2013 3:57 PM, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: [rə-ginə] If you need the language above explained, see: http://www.antimoon.com/how/**pronunc-soundsipa.htmhttp://www.antimoon.com/how/pronunc-soundsipa.htm rə = ruh i = same vowel as see Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (171,xxx mi) On 9/20/2013 9:00 AM, Gary Hurst wrote: not quite! On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 9:33 AM, WILTONwilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: As in RA-jeana? Wilt __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie
I didn't notice the typo (obviously) until this morning and wondered who would catch it. -Curt Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 20:36:53 -0600 From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie Message-ID: 20130920203653.896997eb7477557977099...@pisquared.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 20 Sep 2013 18:46:37 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Sure you could, plug it in. I drove a 240D one summer where we hit -20F every morning for a whole week, thats -28C, close enough for government work. If you hit -20F during summer, I'd hate to see what your winters are like! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] (no subject)
Now Luther you don't actually believe that drivel that China has bought up all our debt and if they call in the debt we'll be in trouble do you? Because its wrong, China owns about 8% of our debt. A whopping 8%, I still don't understand why people get all excited about 8%... -Curt Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2013 00:00:24 -0500 From: Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] (no subject) Message-ID: 523d27e8.3080...@gulseth.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I guess that logic works. Since our gov't really owns GM and China owns our gov't, yea, China Motors it is Luther KB5QHU Forest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (171,xxx mi) On 9/20/2013 8:31 PM, Mountain Man wrote: Scott wrote: Real merican cars? General Motors is becoming China Motors ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: Jetta oil change
Heres another reason to love your MB. Last night I decided it was high time to change the oil in the Jetta. So I jacked it up high and got a jack stand under it, then got under there and removed the underbody belly pan thing. Got my drain pan in place and then had to crawl back out to get a 19mm wrench. Who uses a 19mm bolt on an oil pan? Got the oil draining and went after the filter, its a can filter (not a canister filter like an MB uses, what are the self-contained ones called?) at the front of the car pointing down and slightly rearward (its a weird position). I can barely get my hands on it from above, from below its better but still bad. Managed to get it unscrewed from below which I was worried about and navigated down and out without pouring any on me. Its quite a large filter and the one coming off was Mann. My replacement is Car Quest but I intend to run a fairly short change as a cleanout before going to a longer duration. I filled the new filter with oil (Car Quest 5w40 synthetic, again its a short change, I'll pull a sample at 5,000 miles) and as I navigated it up into place realized I shouldn't have filled it more than 3/4 full. Had to take it down and wipe it off because I couldn't turn it with all the oil on it... There is a special place in hell for the idiot that designed this system. The mk4 Jetta has a canister filter which is a much better system. While I was down there I figured I'd check the level in the transmission, it was louder than I'd like. Thats also mildly annoying because of an AC line right in the way, fortunately I had the HUGE (bigger than MB differential) allen key needed. I stuck my finger in the hole and... nothing. Stuck my finger farther in the hole, nothing. Wiggled it around some, OH! theres some oil. Oooh, better do something about that. Today is cut and weld day, I want to deal with the rust holes under the driver's side. Before I do that I'll go find some GL4 fluid and get the trans taken care of... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] question that appears political
The TSA is expanding, with Congress recently giving the green light for extra funding that has increased the number of unannounced TSA checkpoints beyond the 9300 that took place last year. This $25 million dollar injection has helped fund the expansion of the VIPR program which has TSA agents patrolling highways, train stations, bus terminals and other transport hubssnip http://www.infowars.com/tsa-expands-invasion-to-ca-train-stations-bus-terminals/ .. Gotta keep the sheeple in line. Mike On Sep 21, 2013 2:42 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: absolutely. some guy grabbing my genitals when i try to get on an airplane does nothing to stop me just walking on an amtrak train and doing whatever i like. security thinking is so limited that i wonder if it isn't just a ruse, a cynical fraud and confidence game. On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 2:37 AM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: This is just one more example of the limitations of security thinking which (IMO) generally creates more problems/cost for the good guys than the bad guys. -Original Message- From: Gary Hurst Subject: [MBZ] question that appears political here is a question for you war on terror wonks. you cannot get into this place without proper clearance on land. i once tried to ride my bicycle in and guys were on me like white on rice. but i can get in there by water via canoe as much as i like 24/7. doesn't this kind of indicate that the anti terror stuff is kind of a sham maybe? https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=enq=port%20evergladesgbv=2um=1ie=UTF- 8sa=Ntab=wl -- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2242 / Virus Database: 3222/6186 - Release Date: 09/20/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Jetta oil change
I never subscribed to the 'pre-fill the filter so the oil pressure goes up three seconds faster' thing. I haven't seen a transaxle that took GL anything since my 1977 Saab (and the SAE 70 originally specified for that car was superceded by 5W30). I assume you looked up the spec, but it still seems odd to me. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 350 SDL Opinions
Kalib, I'm in the lower Hudson Valley, about 70 miles north of NYC. I drove the car to the restoration shop that did my rust repair and repaint about 5 years ago. Including new front fenders, a crapload of new trim and a new trunk lid, as the old one was I rough shape. Probably dumped $6K+ into the car that year. Insco's from both parties did estimates, probably within 10% of each other, around $3.5K. Shop left me a msg last night they already has a tail light assembly, and looking for a rear deck but still need my okay to do the work. Wilton, thanks for the offer; if I look at this one next week and it's a POS, I'll contact you. Shop said insco would cover repair up to the vehicle's value. My concern was they were going to value the car around $2K and total it. They value is about $7K, so right now, the numbers look good. Don't know if I can just take the $3.5K check and keep/part out the vehicle, or if that's even an option, which was a thought, if I wanted to get rid of it, knowing the model's stellar reliability reputation. g More later.. Angelo Giaimo 350 SDL Rodbender 279,xxx miles, and still ticking! Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] question that appears political
If TSA and DHS were sports teams... they would both have set records for losing streaks. Billions spent.. Millions of hours of delays caused to good citizens... Billions of increased costs to airlines and airports with extra time lost and handling expenses. ZERO TERRORIST CAUGHT IN 12 YEARS losing streak??? By my measure. Anyone ever fly El Al Israel airlines? Or go through Israel 's check points? First, you will notice they freely PROFILE... why? Because they are looking for TERRORISTS, not 84 yr. old cancer patients wearing depends. Our security check points are run by poorly trained monkeys, lead by politically appointed fools who couldn't manage their way out of a wet paper bag, with a national security planning agency that never saw combat, with congressional oversight by elected professional fools whose only coherent daily thought is what can I do to get re-elected. At this point, my only satisfaction in dealing with them when I fly is to take Exlax before I go to the airport so when they do the anal probe, I have something for them to find. I feel safe now... don't you... Wonder how the Boston bombers were missed? Wonder how the 911 guys were overlooked.. or the original Trade Towers were able to do their attack? I mean.. we spend billions on... wait.. Ohh.. this just in... Bill and Monica News Break... We'll cover that just after the break Tongue firmly in Cheek. Grant... [Who wonders just how many peoples lives would have been saved if just one American citizen on each plane on 911 had exercised their Constitutional right to self defense and been armed and not infringed. Oh... that's right.. call an armed policeman as soon as the airplane gets on the ground after the terrorist kill the flight crew ] On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 5:25 AM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.comwrote: Gotta keep the sheeple in line. Mike On Sep 21, 2013 2:42 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: absolutely. some guy grabbing my genitals when i try to get on an airplane does nothing to stop me just walking on an amtrak train and doing whatever i like. security thinking is so limited that i wonder if it isn't just a ruse, a cynical fraud and confidence game. On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 2:37 AM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: This is just one more example of the limitations of security thinking which (IMO) generally creates more problems/cost for the good guys than the bad guys. -Original Message- From: Gary Hurst Subject: [MBZ] question that appears political here is a question for you war on terror wonks. you cannot get into this place without proper clearance on land. i once tried to ride my bicycle in and guys were on me like white on rice. but i can get in there by water via canoe as much as i like 24/7. doesn't this kind of indicate that the anti terror stuff is kind of a sham maybe? https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=enq=port%20evergladesgbv=2um=1ie=UTF- 8sa=Ntab=wl -- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] (no subject)
8% of $20,000,000,000,000.00 is almost $2 trillionnot a large sum of money... Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (171,xxx mi) On 9/21/2013 7:43 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: Now Luther you don't actually believe that drivel that China has bought up all our debt and if they call in the debt we'll be in trouble do you? Because its wrong, China owns about 8% of our debt. A whopping 8%, I still don't understand why people get all excited about 8%... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] (no subject)
China owning USA Bond paper is a small part of the big game.. and the big boys playing that game are in the process of failure the Giant Ponzi Scheme of International Banking has crashed in Mega Size. This article, taken from outside the lamestream Ministry of Truth is rather revealing. It is written in German, translated by google into English, so the syntax takes some serious close attention, however, it's worth the effort. Look, Read, Draw your own conclusions.. http://translate.google.com/translate?depth=1hl=deie=UTF8nv=1prev=_trurl=translate.google.desl=detl=enu=http://deutsche-wirtschafts-nachrichten.de/2013/09/19/biz-die-maechtigste-bank-der-welt-kuendigt-den-crash-an/ The attention span for the normal public is to short to grasp the magnitude of what has been done to them with the worlds money supply... it's no longer your local banker in control... These folks plan to control the world... and they are. Wonder what's next? Grant... [Who is considering investing in lead as the next go to precious metal maybe a side investment in rope would be good.. hmmm ] On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 7:49 AM, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: 8% of $20,000,000,000,000.00 is almost $2 trillionnot a large sum of money... Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (171,xxx mi) On 9/21/2013 7:43 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: Now Luther you don't actually believe that drivel that China has bought up all our debt and if they call in the debt we'll be in trouble do you? Because its wrong, China owns about 8% of our debt. A whopping 8%, I still don't understand why people get all excited about 8%... -Curt __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 350 SDL Opinions
'Sounds like you need/should repair it, and you should be able to get the check and repair it or not wherever and whenever (including never) you want. You could even repair it or not yourself or at shop of your choice. Get check and deal with repair shop yourself, or not. I though it might have had paint, etc., recently - looks mighty good - well, 'cept the damage, of course. Wilton - Original Message - From: Angelo Giaimo michaelangel...@gmail.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 10:05 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 350 SDL Opinions Kalib, I'm in the lower Hudson Valley, about 70 miles north of NYC. I drove the car to the restoration shop that did my rust repair and repaint about 5 years ago. Including new front fenders, a crapload of new trim and a new trunk lid, as the old one was I rough shape. Probably dumped $6K+ into the car that year. Insco's from both parties did estimates, probably within 10% of each other, around $3.5K. Shop left me a msg last night they already has a tail light assembly, and looking for a rear deck but still need my okay to do the work. Wilton, thanks for the offer; if I look at this one next week and it's a POS, I'll contact you. Shop said insco would cover repair up to the vehicle's value. My concern was they were going to value the car around $2K and total it. They value is about $7K, so right now, the numbers look good. Don't know if I can just take the $3.5K check and keep/part out the vehicle, or if that's even an option, which was a thought, if I wanted to get rid of it, knowing the model's stellar reliability reputation. g More later.. Angelo Giaimo 350 SDL Rodbender 279,xxx miles, and still ticking! Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] question that appears political
You can get in a canoe? --R On 9/21/13 2:25 AM, Gary Hurst wrote: here is a question for you war on terror wonks. you cannot get into this place without proper clearance on land. i once tried to ride my bicycle in and guys were on me like white on rice. but i can get in there by water via canoe as much as i like 24/7. doesn't this kind of indicate that the anti terror stuff is kind of a sham maybe? https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=enq=port%20evergladesgbv=2um=1ie=UTF-8sa=Ntab=wl ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] question that appears political
sure. you can't? On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: You can get in a canoe? --R On 9/21/13 2:25 AM, Gary Hurst wrote: here is a question for you war on terror wonks. you cannot get into this place without proper clearance on land. i once tried to ride my bicycle in and guys were on me like white on rice. but i can get in there by water via canoe as much as i like 24/7. doesn't this kind of indicate that the anti terror stuff is kind of a sham maybe? https://maps.google.com/maps?**hl=enq=port%20evergladesgbv=** 2um=1ie=UTF-8sa=Ntab=wlhttps://maps.google.com/maps?hl=enq=port%20evergladesgbv=2um=1ie=UTF-8sa=Ntab=wl __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] question that appears political
I've flown El Al. I've had them call me the day before the flight to verify my identity, which they do randomly, so I was told. They openly admit they profile, and their attitude is If you don't like it, fly another carrier. 'nuf said. Dan who is glad he doesn't travel for business any more On Sep 21, 2013, at 10:44 AM, G Mann wrote: If TSA and DHS were sports teams... they would both have set records for losing streaks. Billions spent.. Millions of hours of delays caused to good citizens... Billions of increased costs to airlines and airports with extra time lost and handling expenses. ZERO TERRORIST CAUGHT IN 12 YEARS losing streak??? By my measure. Anyone ever fly El Al Israel airlines? Or go through Israel 's check points? First, you will notice they freely PROFILE... why? Because they are looking for TERRORISTS, not 84 yr. old cancer patients wearing depends. Our security check points are run by poorly trained monkeys, lead by politically appointed fools who couldn't manage their way out of a wet paper bag, with a national security planning agency that never saw combat, with congressional oversight by elected professional fools whose only coherent daily thought is what can I do to get re-elected. At this point, my only satisfaction in dealing with them when I fly is to take Exlax before I go to the airport so when they do the anal probe, I have something for them to find. I feel safe now... don't you... Wonder how the Boston bombers were missed? Wonder how the 911 guys were overlooked.. or the original Trade Towers were able to do their attack? I mean.. we spend billions on... wait.. Ohh.. this just in... Bill and Monica News Break... We'll cover that just after the break Tongue firmly in Cheek. Grant... [Who wonders just how many peoples lives would have been saved if just one American citizen on each plane on 911 had exercised their Constitutional right to self defense and been armed and not infringed. Oh... that's right.. call an armed policeman as soon as the airplane gets on the ground after the terrorist kill the flight crew ] On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 5:25 AM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.comwrote: Gotta keep the sheeple in line. Mike On Sep 21, 2013 2:42 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: absolutely. some guy grabbing my genitals when i try to get on an airplane does nothing to stop me just walking on an amtrak train and doing whatever i like. security thinking is so limited that i wonder if it isn't just a ruse, a cynical fraud and confidence game. On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 2:37 AM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: This is just one more example of the limitations of security thinking which (IMO) generally creates more problems/cost for the good guys than the bad guys. -Original Message- From: Gary Hurst Subject: [MBZ] question that appears political here is a question for you war on terror wonks. you cannot get into this place without proper clearance on land. i once tried to ride my bicycle in and guys were on me like white on rice. but i can get in there by water via canoe as much as i like 24/7. doesn't this kind of indicate that the anti terror stuff is kind of a sham maybe? https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=enq=port%20evergladesgbv=2um=1ie=UTF- 8sa=Ntab=wl -- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] question that appears political
El Al is faced with REAL threats every day. They don't depend on technology of mindless procedures. They do profile. And it works. -Original Message- From: Dan Penoff I've flown El Al. I've had them call me the day before the flight to verify my identity, which they do randomly, so I was told. They openly admit they profile, and their attitude is If you don't like it, fly another carrier. 'nuf said. Dan who is glad he doesn't travel for business any more ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] question that appears political
Profiling needs to be done daily. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 21, 2013, at 12:13 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: El Al is faced with REAL threats every day. They don't depend on technology of mindless procedures. They do profile. And it works. -Original Message- From: Dan Penoff I've flown El Al. I've had them call me the day before the flight to verify my identity, which they do randomly, so I was told. They openly admit they profile, and their attitude is If you don't like it, fly another carrier. 'nuf said. Dan who is glad he doesn't travel for business any more ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] (no subject)
This is significant, particularly when you recall that the crash of 2008/2009 was purely a banking crisis. Sure, lots of folks bought houses they couldn't afford (only after banks made foolish loans with Freddie/Fanny cheerleading all the way). But the taxpayer didn't bail out those homeowners, taxpayers bailed out the banks and a few businesses (like GM) that were more bank than automaker. Domestically, it may not make much difference immediately because dollars (no matter how many are printed)are still legal tender. But when dollars become worth less internationally, the cost of imported things (like petro and all consumer goods) will skyrocket. That, in turn, will ignite domestic inflation. Even if the US develops gobs of domestic energy, it will be exported. I like my lead with copper jackets. -Original Message- From: Of G Mann Subject: Re: [MBZ] (no subject) China owning USA Bond paper is a small part of the big game.. and the big boys playing that game are in the process of failure the Giant Ponzi Scheme of International Banking has crashed in Mega Size. This article, taken from outside the lamestream Ministry of Truth is rather revealing. It is written in German, translated by google into English, so the syntax takes some serious close attention, however, it's worth the effort. Look, Read, Draw your own conclusions.. http://translate.google.com/translate?depth=1hl=deie=UTF8nv=1prev=_tr url=translate.google.desl=detl=enu=http://deutsche-wirtschafts- nachrichten.de/2013/09/19/biz-die-maechtigste-bank-der-welt-kuendigt-den- crash-an/ The attention span for the normal public is to short to grasp the magnitude of what has been done to them with the worlds money supply... it's no longer your local banker in control... These folks plan to control the world... and they are. Wonder what's next? Grant... [Who is considering investing in lead as the next go to precious metal maybe a side investment in rope would be good.. hmmm ] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Jetta oil change
Seemed odd to me too but there are pages and pages dedicated to it over on tdi club. I'm going to order some Amsoil Synchromesh after I consult the TDI guru who is doing the timing belt next week. Synchromesh seems to be somewhere between gear oil and ATF. The new VW stuff (G52? I forget) is apparently very thin and people are unhappy with its warm weather characteristics. Some people say 75w90 is fine in the cold and some say it isn't, even among people in cold weather climates theres a spread. I'm curious to see how the 75w90 is but spent all day today cutting and welding, got about 80% done but have to go to fil birthday party. Hopefully it won't rain too bad and I can get the rest (well the driver's side anyway) done tomorrow. -Curt Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2013 09:37:46 -0400 (EDT) From: m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Jetta oil change Message-ID: 53295.107.194.192.215.1379770666.squir...@webmail.core.com Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 I never subscribed to the 'pre-fill the filter so the oil pressure goes up three seconds faster' thing. I haven't seen a transaxle that took GL anything since my 1977 Saab (and the SAE 70 originally specified for that car was superceded by 5W30). I assume you looked up the spec, but it still seems odd to me. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] (no subject)
i think it was an effort to destabilize the middle class. in my old neighborhood, rather than that help the homeowners stay in their homes , they sent the sheriff for the homeowners, paid the banks the full not plus 10% and turned around and sold th houses for 1/3 what they bought them for. explain to me what else that is an attempt to do? On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: This is significant, particularly when you recall that the crash of 2008/2009 was purely a banking crisis. Sure, lots of folks bought houses they couldn't afford (only after banks made foolish loans with Freddie/Fanny cheerleading all the way). But the taxpayer didn't bail out those homeowners, taxpayers bailed out the banks and a few businesses (like GM) that were more bank than automaker. Domestically, it may not make much difference immediately because dollars (no matter how many are printed)are still legal tender. But when dollars become worth less internationally, the cost of imported things (like petro and all consumer goods) will skyrocket. That, in turn, will ignite domestic inflation. Even if the US develops gobs of domestic energy, it will be exported. I like my lead with copper jackets. -Original Message- From: Of G Mann Subject: Re: [MBZ] (no subject) China owning USA Bond paper is a small part of the big game.. and the big boys playing that game are in the process of failure the Giant Ponzi Scheme of International Banking has crashed in Mega Size. This article, taken from outside the lamestream Ministry of Truth is rather revealing. It is written in German, translated by google into English, so the syntax takes some serious close attention, however, it's worth the effort. Look, Read, Draw your own conclusions.. http://translate.google.com/translate?depth=1hl=deie=UTF8nv=1prev=_tr url=translate.google.desl=detl=enu=http://deutsche-wirtschafts- nachrichten.de/2013/09/19/biz-die-maechtigste-bank-der-welt-kuendigt-den- crash-an/ The attention span for the normal public is to short to grasp the magnitude of what has been done to them with the worlds money supply... it's no longer your local banker in control... These folks plan to control the world... and they are. Wonder what's next? Grant... [Who is considering investing in lead as the next go to precious metal maybe a side investment in rope would be good.. hmmm ] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Jetta oil change
My Mercedes Diesel (617.) is the easily easiest and cleanest oil change of any vehicle I have ever owned, including yard equipment. I use a topsider which seems to remove more oil than the drain plug. On a semi-related note, I have an Outback where you have to unscrew the oil filter from under the car. The filter is surrounded by exhaust pipes and oil gets all over these pipes. And then it really smells when they heat up. I found that if I cut the bottom out of a plastic soda bottle which is slightly bigger (in diameter) than the filter, It made a great way to catch this stray oil. I pass the socket extension through the mouth of the inverted, bottomless bottle, snap an end-type filter wrench on the extension and hold the bottle up against the block as I loosen the filter. The bottle acts as a funnel to guide spilled oil into the drip pan. -Original Message- From: Curt Raymond Heres another reason to love your MB. ... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] (no subject)
Whether that was the actual goal or simply an unintended consequence, the fact remains that the net effect of recent economic policy is the gradual destruction of the middle class. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Gary Hurst Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 3:04 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] (no subject) i think it was an effort to destabilize the middle class. in my old neighborhood, rather than that help the homeowners stay in their homes , they sent the sheriff for the homeowners, paid the banks the full not plus 10% and turned around and sold th houses for 1/3 what they bought them for. explain to me what else that is an attempt to do? On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: This is significant, particularly when you recall that the crash of 2008/2009 was purely a banking crisis. Sure, lots of folks bought houses they couldn't afford (only after banks made foolish loans with Freddie/Fanny cheerleading all the way). But the taxpayer didn't bail out those homeowners, taxpayers bailed out the banks and a few businesses (like GM) that were more bank than automaker. Domestically, it may not make much difference immediately because dollars (no matter how many are printed)are still legal tender. But when dollars become worth less internationally, the cost of imported things (like petro and all consumer goods) will skyrocket. That, in turn, will ignite domestic inflation. Even if the US develops gobs of domestic energy, it will be exported. I like my lead with copper jackets. -Original Message- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] (no subject)
since 1981 On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 3:12 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: Whether that was the actual goal or simply an unintended consequence, the fact remains that the net effect of recent economic policy is the gradual destruction of the middle class. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Gary Hurst Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 3:04 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] (no subject) i think it was an effort to destabilize the middle class. in my old neighborhood, rather than that help the homeowners stay in their homes , they sent the sheriff for the homeowners, paid the banks the full not plus 10% and turned around and sold th houses for 1/3 what they bought them for. explain to me what else that is an attempt to do? On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: This is significant, particularly when you recall that the crash of 2008/2009 was purely a banking crisis. Sure, lots of folks bought houses they couldn't afford (only after banks made foolish loans with Freddie/Fanny cheerleading all the way). But the taxpayer didn't bail out those homeowners, taxpayers bailed out the banks and a few businesses (like GM) that were more bank than automaker. Domestically, it may not make much difference immediately because dollars (no matter how many are printed)are still legal tender. But when dollars become worth less internationally, the cost of imported things (like petro and all consumer goods) will skyrocket. That, in turn, will ignite domestic inflation. Even if the US develops gobs of domestic energy, it will be exported. I like my lead with copper jackets. -Original Message- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT but interesting
So back when an a-bomb was accidentally dropped right near where Milton lives. Yesterday's WSJ had a book review of a new book about bomb accidents, mostly missile explosions that expelled the warheads, and caused various other problems. It also mentioned this incident and suggested the package was still where it fell and buried itself, though I find that hard to believe. Anyway, now a report saying NC almost got nuked then. I guess Milt would be living outside the exclusion zone, or maybe in full Mad Max mode by now. http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/20/usaf-atomic-bomb-north-carolina-1961 --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Jetta oil change
Curt Raymond wrote: Seemed odd to me too but there are pages and pages dedicated to it over on tdi club. I'm going to order some Amsoil Synchromesh after I consult the TDI guru who is doing the timing belt next week. Synchromesh seems to be somewhere between gear oil and ATF. The new VW stuff (G52? I forget) is apparently very thin and people are unhappy with its warm weather characteristics. Some people say 75w90 is fine in the cold and some say it isn't, even among people in cold weather climates theres a spread. Here's some more data: http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=printthreadBoard=16main=38885type=thread ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] question that appears political
Well, for one thing, trains don't fall out of the sky and kill everyone when disabled by a small explosion. But you are correct that the kind of security thinking that fuels the TSA is a kind of security theater. The problem is that the focus is on stopping things rather than people of ill intent. It is easier to train people (and have machines) that can spot knives, guns and explosives than it is to train people to spot people with nefarious intent. Don't forget that under the current administration the TSA employs lots of the otherwise marginally employable. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Gary Hurst Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 11:43 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] question that appears political absolutely. some guy grabbing my genitals when i try to get on an airplane does nothing to stop me just walking on an amtrak train and doing whatever i like. security thinking is so limited that i wonder if it isn't just a ruse, a cynical fraud and confidence game. On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 2:37 AM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: This is just one more example of the limitations of security thinking which (IMO) generally creates more problems/cost for the good guys than the bad guys. -Original Message- From: Gary Hurst Subject: [MBZ] question that appears political here is a question for you war on terror wonks. you cannot get into this place without proper clearance on land. i once tried to ride my bicycle in and guys were on me like white on rice. but i can get in there by water via canoe as much as i like 24/7. doesn't this kind of indicate that the anti terror stuff is kind of a sham maybe? https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=enq=port%20evergladesgbv=2um=1ie=U TF- 8sa=Ntab=wl -- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] (no subject)
I agree... it is my belief that a steel core with lead then wrapped in copper jacket is the more stable investment to the target market... it gives greatest penetration into said market and highest yield for investment looking into future deliveries... Grant who owns and drives diesel Mercedes as long as F2 keeps selling parts... Q to Q2 to F2... seems logical though not politically correct... On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 11:57 AM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: This is significant, particularly when you recall that the crash of 2008/2009 was purely a banking crisis. Sure, lots of folks bought houses they couldn't afford (only after banks made foolish loans with Freddie/Fanny cheerleading all the way). But the taxpayer didn't bail out those homeowners, taxpayers bailed out the banks and a few businesses (like GM) that were more bank than automaker. Domestically, it may not make much difference immediately because dollars (no matter how many are printed)are still legal tender. But when dollars become worth less internationally, the cost of imported things (like petro and all consumer goods) will skyrocket. That, in turn, will ignite domestic inflation. Even if the US develops gobs of domestic energy, it will be exported. I like my lead with copper jackets. -Original Message- From: Of G Mann Subject: Re: [MBZ] (no subject) China owning USA Bond paper is a small part of the big game.. and the big boys playing that game are in the process of failure the Giant Ponzi Scheme of International Banking has crashed in Mega Size. This article, taken from outside the lamestream Ministry of Truth is rather revealing. It is written in German, translated by google into English, so the syntax takes some serious close attention, however, it's worth the effort. Look, Read, Draw your own conclusions.. http://translate.google.com/translate?depth=1hl=deie=UTF8nv=1prev=_tr url=translate.google.desl=detl=enu=http://deutsche-wirtschafts- nachrichten.de/2013/09/19/biz-die-maechtigste-bank-der-welt-kuendigt-den- crash-an/ The attention span for the normal public is to short to grasp the magnitude of what has been done to them with the worlds money supply... it's no longer your local banker in control... These folks plan to control the world... and they are. Wonder what's next? Grant... [Who is considering investing in lead as the next go to precious metal maybe a side investment in rope would be good.. hmmm ] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie
They run at higher temps than a water cooled engine, and run at a higher percentage of maximum power most of the time. On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 8:11 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.comwrote: Why is such heavy oil used in recip aircraft engines? Gerry From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com I don't intend to find out! I did help Dad start a Jacobs R755 radial engine with 50 wt oil in it at -30F once though - it took about two hours of a large kerosene space heater blowing on it before we could turn the prop, much less start it. -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] (no subject)
Grant wrote: ...These folks plan to control the world... and they are. Wonder what's next? We have example of citizens managing what's next, don't we? I am coming to believe that we have ALL become dupes of media and entitlement preaching. Gov't does not infringe unless we let them take. Gov't does not owe anyone anything. We pay, they spend. Keep away from those systems as much as possible. Be an outlaw with that copper jacket and an entire lifestyle that flips the middle finger at the fear tactics media and gov't want to shove at us. We can do this ourselves. Do not fear. Do not fear entitlement systems that are bankrupt, do nor fear medical lies that we need insurance or that the system can pay life sustaining care, etc. We can do this. Especially DIY-centric okiebenz. We need a much better solution-centric mind and forum instead of bitchin' about what THEY are doing against our entitlements. Can we turn this thread in to real solutions thread instead of bitchin' the same fears and concerns these inepts have been steering us? Let's do this, everyone. I am looking for ideas and solutions other than the currency since I do not have currency stores nor reserves nor assets. How can the people do this as small local groups grabbing our minds away from their control? examples? Thanks. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 350 SDL Opinions
I actually had a good experience with insco last winter when blizzard dropped tree on my 82 300CD. They said they would pay up to 75% of book and they booked it at 13400 much to my shock. I paid body shop for new front fenders and to paint the rest of the car so now I hav a full body restoration. I am pleased. But when I first saw damage I was sure they would total and offer me a couple grand. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 240D Mystery Bolt: Update
Sincere thanks to all of you who shared your experiences and offered advice on this issue; especially Mike Canfield who sent me a replacement bolt. After some delays and struggles we got the new bolt in. This was accomplished with the aid of a 7X16 lathe, a beer can, some crazy glue and some shorter than standard M42 drill bits. I plan to do a write-up with some photos in order to help any unfortunate future victims of the broken crankshaft bolt. Greg From: Greg Fiorentino [mailto:gf...@dslnorthwest.net] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 9:39 AM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: 240D Mystery Bolt Hi All: My son was driving his 3-pedal 1980 240D ( with about 300K mi.) yesterday when the car began to run warm. Suddenly he heard a loud PLINK, and something falling out of the engine compartment. Then the engine overheated and he began to lose coolant. The following very large (18mm thread) broken 10.9 bolt with 3 thick washers was recovered: http://my.opera.com/gfior/albums/show.dml?id=14664462 Aside from running very hot the engine seems to run normally. Does any of you have an idea what happened and where this bolt came from? He will be driving SWMBO's TDI Jetta until we sort this out. TIA, Greg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT but back to diesels
if you're running light you don't need E rated/10 plys. having said that, I always put 10 plys on mine. i think if you take a diesel off pavement you should get 4wd. the front ends are so heavy they can get stuck on grass. On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: A 10 ply tire will never flex like a 6 ply... -Curt Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 10:08:57 -0400 From: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT but back to diesels Message-ID: calhj_1deddk5x5ub5hyrh59wgpfs+j3wcxpvgcakdtf6ysk...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Air down those 10 plys to 10 or 15 psi and see how well they flex. That's what ya do when ya need traction offroad around here.lol Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT but interesting
It is amazing the number of supposedly well-educated people who keep writing books about the 1961 incident 12 mile from here but evidently don't know how to count (each one comes up with a different number of switches - usually sprinkled between 4 and 9) and can't seem to understand that all of the bombs' internal switches, devices and timers, including the ARM/SAFE switches worked mechanically and electrically exactly as they were designed and built to work. They were all designed and built to allow/produce a nuke det only if the bombs were released under very specific conditions of altitude and airspeed. The breakup of the airplane caused the bombs to separate from it as if they had been deliberately released - the altitude and airspeed conditions were met. On one bomb, all of the switches, including ARM/SAFE switch worked. Firing signal was produced, but it could not get past the ARM/SAFE switch, which, of course, the crew radar-navigator/bombardier had not armed and never would have without a properly authenticated go-code/order. So one bomb did not produce nuke det because ARM/SAFE switch was SAFE. In the second bomb, all of the switches, timers, etc., except those that were precluded by other physical factors (severed parachute static line and premature impact with ground) also worked as designed and built. When first found in the impact crater, the ARM/SAFE switch for this bomb appeared to be ARMED, but detailed analysis by Sandia Corp. found that only the case was damaged making it to merely appear to be armed but was, in fact, SAFE. This bomb did not produce nuke det 'cause it was destroyed upon impact with ground before fusing/firing sequence was complete; ARM/SAFE switch was also SAFE. In addition to the internal switches, timers and devices being designed and built to allow/produce a nuclear detonation ONLY under certain specific conditions of airspeed and altitude, they were also designed and built to prevent an accidental nuclear detonation while undergoing ground maintenance, and handling, routine transport and any other time not deliberately intended. Airspeed and altitude conditions were satisfied, though, so the switches worked, but because they each did not act as a roadblock to the fusing/firing sequence in this accidental situation, they are considered by some to have failed - that's how the story got out about so many switches failing. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 3:17 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT but interesting So back when an a-bomb was accidentally dropped right near where Milton lives. Yesterday's WSJ had a book review of a new book about bomb accidents, mostly missile explosions that expelled the warheads, and caused various other problems. It also mentioned this incident and suggested the package was still where it fell and buried itself, though I find that hard to believe. Anyway, now a report saying NC almost got nuked then. I guess Milt would be living outside the exclusion zone, or maybe in full Mad Max mode by now. http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/20/usaf-atomic-bomb-north-carolina-1961 --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT but interesting
Oh, I forgot - part of second bomb - secondary package of radioactive material (200 to 300 lbs) is still in the ground, depth unknown, maybe 180 feet or so. Unable to recover it in '61 because of water, mud, etc. Wilt - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 12:23 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT but interesting It is amazing the number of supposedly well-educated people who keep writing books about the 1961 incident 12 mile from here but evidently don't know how to count (each one comes up with a different number of switches - usually sprinkled between 4 and 9) and can't seem to understand that all of the bombs' internal switches, devices and timers, including the ARM/SAFE switches worked mechanically and electrically exactly as they were designed and built to work. They were all designed and built to allow/produce a nuke det only if the bombs were released under very specific conditions of altitude and airspeed. The breakup of the airplane caused the bombs to separate from it as if they had been deliberately released - the altitude and airspeed conditions were met. On one bomb, all of the switches, including ARM/SAFE switch worked. Firing signal was produced, but it could not get past the ARM/SAFE switch, which, of course, the crew radar-navigator/bombardier had not armed and never would have without a properly authenticated go-code/order. So one bomb did not produce nuke det because ARM/SAFE switch was SAFE. In the second bomb, all of the switches, timers, etc., except those that were precluded by other physical factors (severed parachute static line and premature impact with ground) also worked as designed and built. When first found in the impact crater, the ARM/SAFE switch for this bomb appeared to be ARMED, but detailed analysis by Sandia Corp. found that only the case was damaged making it to merely appear to be armed but was, in fact, SAFE. This bomb did not produce nuke det 'cause it was destroyed upon impact with ground before fusing/firing sequence was complete; ARM/SAFE switch was also SAFE. In addition to the internal switches, timers and devices being designed and built to allow/produce a nuclear detonation ONLY under certain specific conditions of airspeed and altitude, they were also designed and built to prevent an accidental nuclear detonation while undergoing ground maintenance, and handling, routine transport and any other time not deliberately intended. Airspeed and altitude conditions were satisfied, though, so the switches worked, but because they each did not act as a roadblock to the fusing/firing sequence in this accidental situation, they are considered by some to have failed - that's how the story got out about so many switches failing. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 3:17 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT but interesting So back when an a-bomb was accidentally dropped right near where Milton lives. Yesterday's WSJ had a book review of a new book about bomb accidents, mostly missile explosions that expelled the warheads, and caused various other problems. It also mentioned this incident and suggested the package was still where it fell and buried itself, though I find that hard to believe. Anyway, now a report saying NC almost got nuked then. I guess Milt would be living outside the exclusion zone, or maybe in full Mad Max mode by now. http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/20/usaf-atomic-bomb-north-carolina-1961 --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Mercedes 300D reduced $$
http://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/4079635243.html Somebody better snap it up. Wilt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes 300D reduced $$
considering hte scrap man will pay 400, it's pretty close to rock bottom On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 12:38 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: http://raleigh.craigslist.org/**cto/4079635243.htmlhttp://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/4079635243.html Somebody better snap it up. Wilt __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT but interesting
BTW, 'tickles me when the article says recently declassified doc. first conclusive evidence, etc. BS - I've had several of the relevant declassified docs., including report of detailed analysis by Sandia Corp., here on my desk for several years. I've read and understand them all in great detail. Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 12:23 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT but interesting It is amazing the number of supposedly well-educated people who keep writing books about the 1961 incident 12 mile from here but evidently don't know how to count (each one comes up with a different number of switches - usually sprinkled between 4 and 9) and can't seem to understand that all of the bombs' internal switches, devices and timers, including the ARM/SAFE switches worked mechanically and electrically exactly as they were designed and built to work. They were all designed and built to allow/produce a nuke det only if the bombs were released under very specific conditions of altitude and airspeed. The breakup of the airplane caused the bombs to separate from it as if they had been deliberately released - the altitude and airspeed conditions were met. On one bomb, all of the switches, including ARM/SAFE switch worked. Firing signal was produced, but it could not get past the ARM/SAFE switch, which, of course, the crew radar-navigator/bombardier had not armed and never would have without a properly authenticated go-code/order. So one bomb did not produce nuke det because ARM/SAFE switch was SAFE. In the second bomb, all of the switches, timers, etc., except those that were precluded by other physical factors (severed parachute static line and premature impact with ground) also worked as designed and built. When first found in the impact crater, the ARM/SAFE switch for this bomb appeared to be ARMED, but detailed analysis by Sandia Corp. found that only the case was damaged making it to merely appear to be armed but was, in fact, SAFE. This bomb did not produce nuke det 'cause it was destroyed upon impact with ground before fusing/firing sequence was complete; ARM/SAFE switch was also SAFE. In addition to the internal switches, timers and devices being designed and built to allow/produce a nuclear detonation ONLY under certain specific conditions of airspeed and altitude, they were also designed and built to prevent an accidental nuclear detonation while undergoing ground maintenance, and handling, routine transport and any other time not deliberately intended. Airspeed and altitude conditions were satisfied, though, so the switches worked, but because they each did not act as a roadblock to the fusing/firing sequence in this accidental situation, they are considered by some to have failed - that's how the story got out about so many switches failing. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 3:17 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT but interesting So back when an a-bomb was accidentally dropped right near where Milton lives. Yesterday's WSJ had a book review of a new book about bomb accidents, mostly missile explosions that expelled the warheads, and caused various other problems. It also mentioned this incident and suggested the package was still where it fell and buried itself, though I find that hard to believe. Anyway, now a report saying NC almost got nuked then. I guess Milt would be living outside the exclusion zone, or maybe in full Mad Max mode by now. http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/20/usaf-atomic-bomb-north-carolina-1961 --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] we have our tybee bomb
google tybee bomb thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
