Re: [MBZ] Civil Service, Oh Yeah! qa9uqavy
On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 8:50 PM, Richard Hattaway rhatta...@rocketmail.comwrote: Those days are gone except in small Asian rim countries wait a minute, who is it that's kicking our ass in education these days.. Us, who were once at the top are now in the teens.. North Carolina education is the 48th worst in the country last time I checked.. and we do have tenure here. Hmm... all this seems to add up. We, also, are losing tenure after the Republican invasion. This was a big deal in certain circles, but it got overwhelmed by some of the other stuff they did. Kind of what you'd expect when you hire a bunch of reformers after having the same bunch of Democrats in power since Reconstruction, but I guess it took some people by surprise. And that's my political post for the day. :) Merry Christmas Eve to all! Best, -Tim might actually get in some wrench time today! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Civil Service, Oh Yeah! qa9uqavy
On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 10:21 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: From what I hear the better part of the faculty has decided to give up tenure. Dan I htink that has an untended double meaning. I doubt it was unintended... Best, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Civil Service, Oh Yeah! qa9uqavy
Don't forget that US wages adjusted for inflation have been falling since the 70s. Locally skilled worker wages have been unchanged since the 80's -- people are making exactly what they were 30 years ago, which of course means they HAVE to have everyone in the family working to have a place to live, let alone save something for retirement. Add to that the fact that most people want to live in a palace and drive an expensive car (new every two years so the neighbors are jealous) and one income won't do that. You can live pretty well on a single industrial income in America if you are lucky and get one of the few good jobs left, but the majority of people simply cannot. Most people cannot survive, let alone retire, on the prevailing wage as single people, sobering prospect. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Filthy dirty hairy 123 '85 TD Wagon oil cooler lines
It's hard to break bad habits and the junky food gives them pleasure. On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 12:05 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: then why do they live the lives they live? because TV told them to? On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 11:35 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: Not sure anyone is ever happy to get cancer... On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 11:09 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: i am limiting my food choices more and more every year. corporate food is making us all sick and a few of us are starting to care the rest are just happy to get cancer and have their insurance company or their government pay hundreds of thousands of dollars to try to help them survive it so that people in the medical racket can have yachts on the intercoastal you figure i'm the kind of guy who will participate in such sham? On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 10:57 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: My son is vegan and my ex partner was gluten free so our menu options were limited when all the gang got together for a meal.. On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 9:34 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: i don't really eat dairy, but i do like garlic On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 9:29 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Eat plenty of yogurt and garlic and there's nothing to worry about, beard or no beard. On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: One of my pet hates is the big chemical companies scaring us into using toxic chemicals to keep our homes 'safe' from killer germs. End result is a bunch of kids who have all sorts of health issues due to exposure to a range of cleaning products and a lack of exposure to bugs. Question is, what about hair? Or is it only facial hair that hides bugs? Do woman with long hair have a bunch of nasties in there? Hendrik who has a little beard On 24/12/13 10:40, Mountain Man wrote: Gerry wrote: Perhaps he read the recent medical report on beards. I bought a Chicago Schwinn bicycle from a guy that told us he washed his beard 3 times each day. He claimed it as medically needed since it functioned as a filter for contaminants, and that is why he washed it 3 times each day. He rarely got sick and it fixed his allergies. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.buyeuroparts.com/ http://www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.buyeuroparts.com/* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.buyeuroparts.com/ http://www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.buyeuroparts.com/* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.buyeuroparts.com/ http://www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.buyeuroparts.com/* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives
Re: [MBZ] Filthy dirty hairy 123 '85 TD Wagon oil cooler lines
and here we get closer to the real answer. it's not food, but recreational drugs On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 9:48 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: It's hard to break bad habits and the junky food gives them pleasure. On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 12:05 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: then why do they live the lives they live? because TV told them to? On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 11:35 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: Not sure anyone is ever happy to get cancer... On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 11:09 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: i am limiting my food choices more and more every year. corporate food is making us all sick and a few of us are starting to care the rest are just happy to get cancer and have their insurance company or their government pay hundreds of thousands of dollars to try to help them survive it so that people in the medical racket can have yachts on the intercoastal you figure i'm the kind of guy who will participate in such sham? On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 10:57 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: My son is vegan and my ex partner was gluten free so our menu options were limited when all the gang got together for a meal.. On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 9:34 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: i don't really eat dairy, but i do like garlic On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 9:29 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Eat plenty of yogurt and garlic and there's nothing to worry about, beard or no beard. On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: One of my pet hates is the big chemical companies scaring us into using toxic chemicals to keep our homes 'safe' from killer germs. End result is a bunch of kids who have all sorts of health issues due to exposure to a range of cleaning products and a lack of exposure to bugs. Question is, what about hair? Or is it only facial hair that hides bugs? Do woman with long hair have a bunch of nasties in there? Hendrik who has a little beard On 24/12/13 10:40, Mountain Man wrote: Gerry wrote: Perhaps he read the recent medical report on beards. I bought a Chicago Schwinn bicycle from a guy that told us he washed his beard 3 times each day. He claimed it as medically needed since it functioned as a filter for contaminants, and that is why he washed it 3 times each day. He rarely got sick and it fixed his allergies. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.buyeuroparts.com/ http://www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.buyeuroparts.com/* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.buyeuroparts.com/ http://www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.buyeuroparts.com/* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
Re: [MBZ] Civil Service, Oh Yeah! qa9uqavy
On Dec 24, 2013, at 7:24 AM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote: You can live pretty well on a single industrial income in America if you are lucky and get one of the few good jobs left, but the majority of people simply cannot. Most people cannot survive, let alone retire, on the prevailing wage as single people, sobering prospect. +1 I've been a single dad (no child support) for almost 11 years now... I do pretty well, but I am a cheap bast..., uh, frugal. I don't need the newest cars, tv, etc. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Civil Service, Oh Yeah! qa9uqavy
i can one up you on this. i am a single dad receiving no child support but ordered to pay my ex wife 4 figures a month in child support for a child who lives with me and my ex wife has five times my income. and no one in the entire state of georgia thinks this even sounds unusual your move On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 11:36 AM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.comwrote: On Dec 24, 2013, at 7:24 AM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote: You can live pretty well on a single industrial income in America if you are lucky and get one of the few good jobs left, but the majority of people simply cannot. Most people cannot survive, let alone retire, on the prevailing wage as single people, sobering prospect. +1 I've been a single dad (no child support) for almost 11 years now... I do pretty well, but I am a cheap bast..., uh, frugal. I don't need the newest cars, tv, etc. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Filthy dirty hairy 123 '85 TD Wagon oil cooler lines
On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 9:48 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: It's hard to break bad habits and the junky food gives them pleasure. On Dec 24, 2013, at 9:09 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: and here we get closer to the real answer. it's not food, but recreational drugs Close. Exercise releases endorphins, etc. I believe that (exercise) to be a key answer to the epidemic of obesity in this country today. There are WAY too many sedentary jobs, and most folks are quite happy to plant themselves in front of the TV after work for four or five hours a day... BTW, gambling hits on the pleasure centers of the brain too. Rick Who knows a tiny bit about addiction. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT Single Dads Was Re: Civil Service,
On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 11:36 AM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.comwrote: I've been a single dad (no child support) for almost 11 years now... On Dec 24, 2013, at 10:40 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: i can one up you on this. i am a single dad receiving no child support but ordered to pay my ex wife 4 figures a month in child support for a child who lives with me and my ex wife has five times my income. and no one in the entire state of georgia thinks this even sounds unusual your move I won't go there on a public list. I'll just say my divorce was QUITE expensive. And still is... I'll tell you about it in private sometime. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Filthy dirty hairy 123 '85 TD Wagon oil cooler lines
as a fat man and a lifelong gambler, i sure do get it. it's all so much junky business but no one can ever talk about it on account of how much money the coca cola company makes on your buying obese welfare mothers more and more soda pop for their obese spawn what people don't understand is that increased healthcare costs mean jobs and profits. there is zero interest in solving any problems of obesity but only in creating and exploiting the obese the only answer to obesity is prevention and there is zero interest in that. in fact, as long as food stamps are distributed for use on sugar products, obesity is guaranteed. the poor are being fattened up so they will no longer be useless but bring a profit to someone. then we throw them in prison. it's a great country you got going here, rick. too bad this system must someday implode On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 11:43 AM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.comwrote: On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 9:48 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: It's hard to break bad habits and the junky food gives them pleasure. On Dec 24, 2013, at 9:09 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: and here we get closer to the real answer. it's not food, but recreational drugs Close. Exercise releases endorphins, etc. I believe that (exercise) to be a key answer to the epidemic of obesity in this country today. There are WAY too many sedentary jobs, and most folks are quite happy to plant themselves in front of the TV after work for four or five hours a day... BTW, gambling hits on the pleasure centers of the brain too. Rick Who knows a tiny bit about addiction. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Single Dads Was Re: Civil Service,
i will just accept victory by forfeit then in the one up game (even though i have a sinking feeling you might actually be able to win it if given a fair chance) and i'm always happy to talk with you, rick as you tend to make sense much of the time On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 11:50 AM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.comwrote: On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 11:36 AM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: I've been a single dad (no child support) for almost 11 years now... On Dec 24, 2013, at 10:40 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: i can one up you on this. i am a single dad receiving no child support but ordered to pay my ex wife 4 figures a month in child support for a child who lives with me and my ex wife has five times my income. and no one in the entire state of georgia thinks this even sounds unusual your move I won't go there on a public list. I'll just say my divorce was QUITE expensive. And still is... I'll tell you about it in private sometime. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Scored an R129!
Woo-hoo! Just made a deal on a 1997 SL500. The good, the bad, the ugly: Good: Red with black interior 40th Anniversary Edition (according to VIN) 71,000 miles Body is near perfect Interior is very good condition Soft top is as new Bad: Top hydraulics need replacement Oil tube or tubes possibly bad on right side of engine (slight single lifter tick) Aftermarket radio (owner has original Becker) CEL is on with code for O2 sensor Ugly: Hard top headliner gone, will need to replace Rebuilt title (car was totaled in 2007 due to front end damage, rebuilt by local dealer) Price: $5000 Some observations: According to the VIN this is a 40th Anniversary model. However, it has trunk badging, which the 40th Anniversary models were not supposed to have. I can only assume that this was installed in the past when there was a rear end damage noted in the DMV reports from the original owner. I'm torn as to whether or not I should leave it on the car or not. Lifter tick could very well be due to lack of use. The car has been driven less than 3000 miles in the last 4 years, so it's sat a lot. I'll drain the engine and refill with the required Mobil1 0W40 as soon as I get it and drive a little while to see if the tick goes away. Thanks to Klaus at Top Hydraulics and others it looks like the top controller is probably OK. The window drop feature does work, meaning that the system is probably synchronized. However, the PO has operated the top manually, meaning that they probably upset the system at some point and invoked the safeties, I suspect. There was some beeping when I started the car, which I believe was due to the top system complaining. I was able to raise the roll bar using the switch on the console, however, this apparently pressurized the system, which caused the leaking cylinders in the top of the windshield frame to leak hydraulic fluid out the trim covers of the windshield corners. This also leads me to believe that the hydraulic system is probably OK but needs to be sorted out. I'm figuring about $2k worth of repairs (parts) will be necessary to get it completely sorted out, after which I should have a very nice, 100% working SL500. I take delivery on Thursday. What a great Christmas present! Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Scored an R129!
i think everyone in life needs an open car On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 11:56 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Woo-hoo! Just made a deal on a 1997 SL500. The good, the bad, the ugly: Good: Red with black interior 40th Anniversary Edition (according to VIN) 71,000 miles Body is near perfect Interior is very good condition Soft top is as new Bad: Top hydraulics need replacement Oil tube or tubes possibly bad on right side of engine (slight single lifter tick) Aftermarket radio (owner has original Becker) CEL is on with code for O2 sensor Ugly: Hard top headliner gone, will need to replace Rebuilt title (car was totaled in 2007 due to front end damage, rebuilt by local dealer) Price: $5000 Some observations: According to the VIN this is a 40th Anniversary model. However, it has trunk badging, which the 40th Anniversary models were not supposed to have. I can only assume that this was installed in the past when there was a rear end damage noted in the DMV reports from the original owner. I'm torn as to whether or not I should leave it on the car or not. Lifter tick could very well be due to lack of use. The car has been driven less than 3000 miles in the last 4 years, so it's sat a lot. I'll drain the engine and refill with the required Mobil1 0W40 as soon as I get it and drive a little while to see if the tick goes away. Thanks to Klaus at Top Hydraulics and others it looks like the top controller is probably OK. The window drop feature does work, meaning that the system is probably synchronized. However, the PO has operated the top manually, meaning that they probably upset the system at some point and invoked the safeties, I suspect. There was some beeping when I started the car, which I believe was due to the top system complaining. I was able to raise the roll bar using the switch on the console, however, this apparently pressurized the system, which caused the leaking cylinders in the top of the windshield frame to leak hydraulic fluid out the trim covers of the windshield corners. This also leads me to believe that the hydraulic system is probably OK but needs to be sorted out. I'm figuring about $2k worth of repairs (parts) will be necessary to get it completely sorted out, after which I should have a very nice, 100% working SL500. I take delivery on Thursday. What a great Christmas present! Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Scored an R129!
cool! Now remind me again why and how you got set on getting a 129? I have thought off and on about a late 107 or 129 of some sort. On 12/24/2013 10:56 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: Woo-hoo! Just made a deal on a 1997 SL500. The good, the bad, the ugly: Good: Red with black interior 40th Anniversary Edition (according to VIN) 71,000 miles Body is near perfect Interior is very good condition Soft top is as new Bad: Top hydraulics need replacement Oil tube or tubes possibly bad on right side of engine (slight single lifter tick) Aftermarket radio (owner has original Becker) CEL is on with code for O2 sensor Ugly: Hard top headliner gone, will need to replace Rebuilt title (car was totaled in 2007 due to front end damage, rebuilt by local dealer) Price: $5000 Some observations: According to the VIN this is a 40th Anniversary model. However, it has trunk badging, which the 40th Anniversary models were not supposed to have. I can only assume that this was installed in the past when there was a rear end damage noted in the DMV reports from the original owner. I'm torn as to whether or not I should leave it on the car or not. Lifter tick could very well be due to lack of use. The car has been driven less than 3000 miles in the last 4 years, so it's sat a lot. I'll drain the engine and refill with the required Mobil1 0W40 as soon as I get it and drive a little while to see if the tick goes away. Thanks to Klaus at Top Hydraulics and others it looks like the top controller is probably OK. The window drop feature does work, meaning that the system is probably synchronized. However, the PO has operated the top manually, meaning that they probably upset the system at some point and invoked the safeties, I suspect. There was some beeping when I started the car, which I believe was due to the top system complaining. I was able to raise the roll bar using the switch on the console, however, this apparently pressurized the system, which caused the leaking cylinders in the top of the windshield frame to leak hydraulic fluid out the trim covers of the windshield corners. This also leads me to believe that the hydraulic system is probably OK but needs to be sorted out. I'm figuring about $2k worth of repairs (parts) will be necessary to get it completely sorted out, after which I should have a very nice, 100% working SL500. I take delivery on Thursday. What a great Christmas present! Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3658/6946 - Release Date: 12/24/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Scored an R129!
cause it's fast and new enough to make poos the coolest guy in all of lakeland On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: cool! Now remind me again why and how you got set on getting a 129? I have thought off and on about a late 107 or 129 of some sort. On 12/24/2013 10:56 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: Woo-hoo! Just made a deal on a 1997 SL500. The good, the bad, the ugly: Good: Red with black interior 40th Anniversary Edition (according to VIN) 71,000 miles Body is near perfect Interior is very good condition Soft top is as new Bad: Top hydraulics need replacement Oil tube or tubes possibly bad on right side of engine (slight single lifter tick) Aftermarket radio (owner has original Becker) CEL is on with code for O2 sensor Ugly: Hard top headliner gone, will need to replace Rebuilt title (car was totaled in 2007 due to front end damage, rebuilt by local dealer) Price: $5000 Some observations: According to the VIN this is a 40th Anniversary model. However, it has trunk badging, which the 40th Anniversary models were not supposed to have. I can only assume that this was installed in the past when there was a rear end damage noted in the DMV reports from the original owner. I'm torn as to whether or not I should leave it on the car or not. Lifter tick could very well be due to lack of use. The car has been driven less than 3000 miles in the last 4 years, so it's sat a lot. I'll drain the engine and refill with the required Mobil1 0W40 as soon as I get it and drive a little while to see if the tick goes away. Thanks to Klaus at Top Hydraulics and others it looks like the top controller is probably OK. The window drop feature does work, meaning that the system is probably synchronized. However, the PO has operated the top manually, meaning that they probably upset the system at some point and invoked the safeties, I suspect. There was some beeping when I started the car, which I believe was due to the top system complaining. I was able to raise the roll bar using the switch on the console, however, this apparently pressurized the system, which caused the leaking cylinders in the top of the windshield frame to leak hydraulic fluid out the trim covers of the windshield corners. This also leads me to believe that the hydraulic system is probably OK but needs to be sorted out. I'm figuring about $2k worth of repairs (parts) will be necessary to get it completely sorted out, after which I should have a very nice, 100% working SL500. I take delivery on Thursday. What a great Christmas present! Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3658/6946 - Release Date: 12/24/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Scored an R129!
Which is saying a lot. On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 12:04 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: cause it's fast and new enough to make poos the coolest guy in all of lakeland On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: cool! Now remind me again why and how you got set on getting a 129? I have thought off and on about a late 107 or 129 of some sort. On 12/24/2013 10:56 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: Woo-hoo! Just made a deal on a 1997 SL500. The good, the bad, the ugly: Good: Red with black interior 40th Anniversary Edition (according to VIN) 71,000 miles Body is near perfect Interior is very good condition Soft top is as new Bad: Top hydraulics need replacement Oil tube or tubes possibly bad on right side of engine (slight single lifter tick) Aftermarket radio (owner has original Becker) CEL is on with code for O2 sensor Ugly: Hard top headliner gone, will need to replace Rebuilt title (car was totaled in 2007 due to front end damage, rebuilt by local dealer) Price: $5000 Some observations: According to the VIN this is a 40th Anniversary model. However, it has trunk badging, which the 40th Anniversary models were not supposed to have. I can only assume that this was installed in the past when there was a rear end damage noted in the DMV reports from the original owner. I'm torn as to whether or not I should leave it on the car or not. Lifter tick could very well be due to lack of use. The car has been driven less than 3000 miles in the last 4 years, so it's sat a lot. I'll drain the engine and refill with the required Mobil1 0W40 as soon as I get it and drive a little while to see if the tick goes away. Thanks to Klaus at Top Hydraulics and others it looks like the top controller is probably OK. The window drop feature does work, meaning that the system is probably synchronized. However, the PO has operated the top manually, meaning that they probably upset the system at some point and invoked the safeties, I suspect. There was some beeping when I started the car, which I believe was due to the top system complaining. I was able to raise the roll bar using the switch on the console, however, this apparently pressurized the system, which caused the leaking cylinders in the top of the windshield frame to leak hydraulic fluid out the trim covers of the windshield corners. This also leads me to believe that the hydraulic system is probably OK but needs to be sorted out. I'm figuring about $2k worth of repairs (parts) will be necessary to get it completely sorted out, after which I should have a very nice, 100% working SL500. I take delivery on Thursday. What a great Christmas present! Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3658/6946 - Release Date: 12/24/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.buyeuroparts.com/ http://www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.buyeuroparts.com/* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Scored an R129!
It would matter if I lived in Lakeland, which is a good 30 miles away. For now I'll just be the coolest guy in all of Valrico. On Dec 24, 2013, at 12:08 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Which is saying a lot. On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 12:04 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: cause it's fast and new enough to make poos the coolest guy in all of lakeland ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Civil Service, Oh Yeah! qa9uqavy
Gary wrote: your move I'm done. I didn't save money - what me worry? I did 7 times as many kids as you. But mom taught at home and cooked at home and we rent home. Early social might provide some $$ but I don't really know, nor do I know if the Potters in DC want to leave that system alone. I may fall outside of ALL safety nets - which is fine. Life has been fine. Never a new car. Never a mortgage. Always a satisfying wife. It's been good. What, me worry? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Filthy dirty hairy 123 '85 TD Wagon oil cooler lines
Gary wrote: and here we get closer to the real answer. it's not food, but recreational drugs How about prohibition? Gov't likes more people to dictate. ACA will prohibit recreational drugs,er,food. ACA is gonna need to address fo.. er, recreational drugs if they want to lower costs. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Filthy dirty hairy 123 '85 TD Wagon oil cooler lines
Gary wrote: it's a great country you got going here, rick. too bad this system must someday implode Paint the implode picture, please. I could wish for implode, but there is a bunch going on so I suggest too much to implode. The train is still on the tracks. I doubt any implosion, but I hope for some type of revolution similar to what Chris Hedges speaks. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Single Dads Was Re: Civil Service,
Gary wrote: and i'm always happy to talk with you, rick as you tend to make sense much of the time I know nothing - still happy married. But it would probably be interesting to be fly-on-the-wall for that conversation. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Scored an R129!
yes, my slander against anything east of brandon is that it is lakeland and not tampa. poor penoff endures it gracefully. johnny B is not that far from you, btw. i forget the town he is in but somewhere north of sebring around that area On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 12:14 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: It would matter if I lived in Lakeland, which is a good 30 miles away. For now I'll just be the coolest guy in all of Valrico. On Dec 24, 2013, at 12:08 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Which is saying a lot. On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 12:04 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: cause it's fast and new enough to make poos the coolest guy in all of lakeland ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Filthy dirty hairy 123 '85 TD Wagon oil cooler lines
ain't no revolution coming here. just withering away every day On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 12:24 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.comwrote: Gary wrote: it's a great country you got going here, rick. too bad this system must someday implode Paint the implode picture, please. I could wish for implode, but there is a bunch going on so I suggest too much to implode. The train is still on the tracks. I doubt any implosion, but I hope for some type of revolution similar to what Chris Hedges speaks. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Scored an R129!
I love my W140, and am very comfortable with the systems. It's been a great car and very reliable. While it would be nice to have another W140, I really want a convertible to take advantage of the climate here. Prices on W107s are stupid, and you have the dated technology that goes with them. They are nice cars, but I wanted something more affordable and something I am comfortable working on and repairing. Early R129s are kind of simple and plain, IMHO. The systems aren't as nice and sophisticated as the 94 and later (facelift models). 96 and later have a 5 speed tranny as opposed to the 4 speed, and also aren't susceptible to the two big issues in earlier models - self-destructing wiring harnesses and failing evaporators. With the budget I have I didn't expect to find a 96 or later, so this was a real blessing in disguise. Thanks to Kaleb's help with a Carfax and some assistance from a friend who has access to the California DMV (where this car was originally sold) I was able to put together the history in great detail. My parts buddy at MB of Tampa got me access to the service history, which was the icing on the cake, so to speak. Top hydraulics will cost me around $600 for a full set of 12 rebuilt cylinders. Oil tubes, if it needs them, will set me back about $250 - $300. O2 sensors might be needed, although I'm convinced that the lifter tick and O2 issues are probably due to the lack of use (less than 3k miles in the last 4 years.) Hard top headliner is an easy DIY repair that costs about $100 for material and glue. A good Saturday project and not one that's critical to the operation of the car. I'll get all the fluids and filters changed out and drive it for a bit before I make any changes. I'll hit the hydraulics in January after I get my vacation/sick days payout from the school district. It looks like it could use some brakes, so I'll take them on in January as well. Again, thanks to Kaleb for the Carfax! Dan On Dec 24, 2013, at 12:01 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: cool! Now remind me again why and how you got set on getting a 129? I have thought off and on about a late 107 or 129 of some sort. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Filthy dirty hairy 123 '85 TD Wagon oil cooler lines
food stamps are buying all that crap. normal sensible people stay away from it for hte most part as the know that getting high on twinkies all day is not conducive to their american dream. . food stamps drive the obesity epidemic, by design are you not listening? On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 12:21 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.comwrote: Gary wrote: and here we get closer to the real answer. it's not food, but recreational drugs How about prohibition? Gov't likes more people to dictate. ACA will prohibit recreational drugs,er,food. ACA is gonna need to address fo.. er, recreational drugs if they want to lower costs. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Scored an R129!
i'd still rather have a jeepster On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: I love my W140, and am very comfortable with the systems. It's been a great car and very reliable. While it would be nice to have another W140, I really want a convertible to take advantage of the climate here. Prices on W107s are stupid, and you have the dated technology that goes with them. They are nice cars, but I wanted something more affordable and something I am comfortable working on and repairing. Early R129s are kind of simple and plain, IMHO. The systems aren't as nice and sophisticated as the 94 and later (facelift models). 96 and later have a 5 speed tranny as opposed to the 4 speed, and also aren't susceptible to the two big issues in earlier models - self-destructing wiring harnesses and failing evaporators. With the budget I have I didn't expect to find a 96 or later, so this was a real blessing in disguise. Thanks to Kaleb's help with a Carfax and some assistance from a friend who has access to the California DMV (where this car was originally sold) I was able to put together the history in great detail. My parts buddy at MB of Tampa got me access to the service history, which was the icing on the cake, so to speak. Top hydraulics will cost me around $600 for a full set of 12 rebuilt cylinders. Oil tubes, if it needs them, will set me back about $250 - $300. O2 sensors might be needed, although I'm convinced that the lifter tick and O2 issues are probably due to the lack of use (less than 3k miles in the last 4 years.) Hard top headliner is an easy DIY repair that costs about $100 for material and glue. A good Saturday project and not one that's critical to the operation of the car. I'll get all the fluids and filters changed out and drive it for a bit before I make any changes. I'll hit the hydraulics in January after I get my vacation/sick days payout from the school district. It looks like it could use some brakes, so I'll take them on in January as well. Again, thanks to Kaleb for the Carfax! Dan On Dec 24, 2013, at 12:01 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: cool! Now remind me again why and how you got set on getting a 129? I have thought off and on about a late 107 or 129 of some sort. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Single Dads Was Re: Civil Service,
i'd go for it if you were muzzled On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 12:26 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.comwrote: Gary wrote: and i'm always happy to talk with you, rick as you tend to make sense much of the time I know nothing - still happy married. But it would probably be interesting to be fly-on-the-wall for that conversation. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Filthy dirty hairy 123 '85 TD Wagon oil cooler lines
Gary wrote: are you not listening? Will I ever listen? Sometimes I can't make sense of my posts to which you respond, so... probably not. Too bad for you. Me? - yeah, too bad also. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Single Dads Was Re: Civil Service,
Gary wrote: i'd go for it if you were muzzled A fly in a muzzle. There's gotta be a picture on the interweb of this. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Filthy dirty hairy 123 '85 TD Wagon oil cooler lines
no, you don't listen. but try to listen to this. works best with the composer's personal back story. he was a blind panhandler in NYC http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aK0yv9ME-h8 On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.comwrote: Gary wrote: are you not listening? Will I ever listen? Sometimes I can't make sense of my posts to which you respond, so... probably not. Too bad for you. Me? - yeah, too bad also. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Scored an R129!
That's fine, Doesn't matter to me. Sebring is a ways from me, despite looking close on the map. I would be interested to know exactly where he lives if you know for sure. Dan On Dec 24, 2013, at 12:26 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: yes, my slander against anything east of brandon is that it is lakeland and not tampa. poor penoff endures it gracefully. johnny B is not that far from you, btw. i forget the town he is in but somewhere north of sebring around that area ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Scored an R129!
lake wales On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 12:43 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: That's fine, Doesn't matter to me. Sebring is a ways from me, despite looking close on the map. I would be interested to know exactly where he lives if you know for sure. Dan On Dec 24, 2013, at 12:26 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: yes, my slander against anything east of brandon is that it is lakeland and not tampa. poor penoff endures it gracefully. johnny B is not that far from you, btw. i forget the town he is in but somewhere north of sebring around that area ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 '85 TD Wagon castor Adjustors and other suspension stuff
+1 on the w115 manual +2. Still have mine. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 '85 TD Wagon castor Adjustors and other suspension stuff
If the rear struts don't leak fluid (ie don't leave significant puddles) they are fine. The internal dampers cannot wear out, the only wear items are the seals (resulting in leaks) and the balljoints at the bottom (resulting in creaks). Balljoints are available separately IIRC. Sadly, the seals are not officially available, but I was able to spend $20 at the local hydraulic shop and cured my one leaker. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Scored an R129!
ATTABOY! Right exterior color, anyway. Wilton - Original Message - From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 11:56 AM Subject: [MBZ] Scored an R129! Woo-hoo! Just made a deal on a 1997 SL500. The good, the bad, the ugly: Good: Red with black interior 40th Anniversary Edition (according to VIN) 71,000 miles Body is near perfect Interior is very good condition Soft top is as new Bad: Top hydraulics need replacement Oil tube or tubes possibly bad on right side of engine (slight single lifter tick) Aftermarket radio (owner has original Becker) CEL is on with code for O2 sensor Ugly: Hard top headliner gone, will need to replace Rebuilt title (car was totaled in 2007 due to front end damage, rebuilt by local dealer) Price: $5000 Some observations: According to the VIN this is a 40th Anniversary model. However, it has trunk badging, which the 40th Anniversary models were not supposed to have. I can only assume that this was installed in the past when there was a rear end damage noted in the DMV reports from the original owner. I'm torn as to whether or not I should leave it on the car or not. Lifter tick could very well be due to lack of use. The car has been driven less than 3000 miles in the last 4 years, so it's sat a lot. I'll drain the engine and refill with the required Mobil1 0W40 as soon as I get it and drive a little while to see if the tick goes away. Thanks to Klaus at Top Hydraulics and others it looks like the top controller is probably OK. The window drop feature does work, meaning that the system is probably synchronized. However, the PO has operated the top manually, meaning that they probably upset the system at some point and invoked the safeties, I suspect. There was some beeping when I started the car, which I believe was due to the top system complaining. I was able to raise the roll bar using the switch on the console, however, this apparently pressurized the system, which caused the leaking cylinders in the top of the windshield frame to leak hydraulic fluid out the trim covers of the windshield corners. This also leads me to believe that the hydraulic system is probably OK but needs to be sorted out. I'm figuring about $2k worth of repairs (parts) will be necessary to get it completely sorted out, after which I should have a very nice, 100% working SL500. I take delivery on Thursday. What a great Christmas present! Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Scored an R129!
Not I; don't even need (nor want) one with a multithou-$ factory hole in the top.. Wilton - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 11:58 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Scored an R129! i think everyone in life needs an open car On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 11:56 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Woo-hoo! Just made a deal on a 1997 SL500. The good, the bad, the ugly: Good: Red with black interior 40th Anniversary Edition (according to VIN) 71,000 miles Body is near perfect Interior is very good condition Soft top is as new Bad: Top hydraulics need replacement Oil tube or tubes possibly bad on right side of engine (slight single lifter tick) Aftermarket radio (owner has original Becker) CEL is on with code for O2 sensor Ugly: Hard top headliner gone, will need to replace Rebuilt title (car was totaled in 2007 due to front end damage, rebuilt by local dealer) Price: $5000 Some observations: According to the VIN this is a 40th Anniversary model. However, it has trunk badging, which the 40th Anniversary models were not supposed to have. I can only assume that this was installed in the past when there was a rear end damage noted in the DMV reports from the original owner. I'm torn as to whether or not I should leave it on the car or not. Lifter tick could very well be due to lack of use. The car has been driven less than 3000 miles in the last 4 years, so it's sat a lot. I'll drain the engine and refill with the required Mobil1 0W40 as soon as I get it and drive a little while to see if the tick goes away. Thanks to Klaus at Top Hydraulics and others it looks like the top controller is probably OK. The window drop feature does work, meaning that the system is probably synchronized. However, the PO has operated the top manually, meaning that they probably upset the system at some point and invoked the safeties, I suspect. There was some beeping when I started the car, which I believe was due to the top system complaining. I was able to raise the roll bar using the switch on the console, however, this apparently pressurized the system, which caused the leaking cylinders in the top of the windshield frame to leak hydraulic fluid out the trim covers of the windshield corners. This also leads me to believe that the hydraulic system is probably OK but needs to be sorted out. I'm figuring about $2k worth of repairs (parts) will be necessary to get it completely sorted out, after which I should have a very nice, 100% working SL500. I take delivery on Thursday. What a great Christmas present! Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Transmission Dipstick
So what's the deal with getting a real dipstick for the transmission on my R129? It still has the factory cap. I suspect it's not a dealer item, but could be had someplace like eBay? Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Transmission Dipstick
Looks like they're all over the place on eBay. Guess I'll need to find out what model tranny I have. Probably a 722.6 of some sort. I keep reading things about fluid shock on these transmissions. Are these people nuts, or is it a bad idea to change ATF all at once? Also, is the fluid an MB only sort of thing? Dan On Dec 24, 2013, at 1:57 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: So what's the deal with getting a real dipstick for the transmission on my R129? It still has the factory cap. I suspect it's not a dealer item, but could be had someplace like eBay? Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Transmission Dipstick
i'd think your standard febi fluid would be fine. see if you can find the spec on febi part number 22806, which is the febi dexron III (not the same as the old grapefruit smelling fluid that jaime is so in love with) On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 2:05 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Looks like they're all over the place on eBay. Guess I'll need to find out what model tranny I have. Probably a 722.6 of some sort. I keep reading things about fluid shock on these transmissions. Are these people nuts, or is it a bad idea to change ATF all at once? Also, is the fluid an MB only sort of thing? Dan On Dec 24, 2013, at 1:57 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: So what's the deal with getting a real dipstick for the transmission on my R129? It still has the factory cap. I suspect it's not a dealer item, but could be had someplace like eBay? Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Scored an R129!
Congrats! Enjoy! Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 8:57 AM To: Mercedes List Subject: [MBZ] Scored an R129! Woo-hoo! Just made a deal on a 1997 SL500. The good, the bad, the ugly: Good: Red with black interior 40th Anniversary Edition (according to VIN) 71,000 miles Body is near perfect Interior is very good condition Soft top is as new Bad: Top hydraulics need replacement Oil tube or tubes possibly bad on right side of engine (slight single lifter tick) Aftermarket radio (owner has original Becker) CEL is on with code for O2 sensor Ugly: Hard top headliner gone, will need to replace Rebuilt title (car was totaled in 2007 due to front end damage, rebuilt by local dealer) Price: $5000 Some observations: According to the VIN this is a 40th Anniversary model. However, it has trunk badging, which the 40th Anniversary models were not supposed to have. I can only assume that this was installed in the past when there was a rear end damage noted in the DMV reports from the original owner. I'm torn as to whether or not I should leave it on the car or not. Lifter tick could very well be due to lack of use. The car has been driven less than 3000 miles in the last 4 years, so it's sat a lot. I'll drain the engine and refill with the required Mobil1 0W40 as soon as I get it and drive a little while to see if the tick goes away. Thanks to Klaus at Top Hydraulics and others it looks like the top controller is probably OK. The window drop feature does work, meaning that the system is probably synchronized. However, the PO has operated the top manually, meaning that they probably upset the system at some point and invoked the safeties, I suspect. There was some beeping when I started the car, which I believe was due to the top system complaining. I was able to raise the roll bar using the switch on the console, however, this apparently pressurized the system, which caused the leaking cylinders in the top of the windshield frame to leak hydraulic fluid out the trim covers of the windshield corners. This also leads me to believe that the hydraulic system is probably OK but needs to be sorted out. I'm figuring about $2k worth of repairs (parts) will be necessary to get it completely sorted out, after which I should have a very nice, 100% working SL500. I take delivery on Thursday. What a great Christmas present! Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Transmission Dipstick
It's not really a dipstick you leave in place, it's a tool and they are all over eBay for about $20 Sent from my iPhone On Dec 24, 2013, at 12:57 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: So what's the deal with getting a real dipstick for the transmission on my R129? It still has the factory cap. I suspect it's not a dealer item, but could be had someplace like eBay? Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Transmission Dipstick
Yes, you have a 722.6, they all use the same tool. You have to use the special mb fluid for it Sent from my iPhone On Dec 24, 2013, at 1:05 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Looks like they're all over the place on eBay. Guess I'll need to find out what model tranny I have. Probably a 722.6 of some sort. I keep reading things about fluid shock on these transmissions. Are these people nuts, or is it a bad idea to change ATF all at once? Also, is the fluid an MB only sort of thing? Dan On Dec 24, 2013, at 1:57 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: So what's the deal with getting a real dipstick for the transmission on my R129? It still has the factory cap. I suspect it's not a dealer item, but could be had someplace like eBay? Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Transmission Dipstick
that's just the standard mercedes fluid check tool, no? On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: It's not really a dipstick you leave in place, it's a tool and they are all over eBay for about $20 Sent from my iPhone On Dec 24, 2013, at 12:57 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: So what's the deal with getting a real dipstick for the transmission on my R129? It still has the factory cap. I suspect it's not a dealer item, but could be had someplace like eBay? Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Transmission Dipstick
You should change it at a regular sort of interval, that's what I do. Don't know about febi, the mb fluid is the only way to go. Hursty should be able to get it for you Sent from my iPhone On Dec 24, 2013, at 1:19 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: i'd think your standard febi fluid would be fine. see if you can find the spec on febi part number 22806, which is the febi dexron III (not the same as the old grapefruit smelling fluid that jaime is so in love with) On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 2:05 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Looks like they're all over the place on eBay. Guess I'll need to find out what model tranny I have. Probably a 722.6 of some sort. I keep reading things about fluid shock on these transmissions. Are these people nuts, or is it a bad idea to change ATF all at once? Also, is the fluid an MB only sort of thing? Dan On Dec 24, 2013, at 1:57 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: So what's the deal with getting a real dipstick for the transmission on my R129? It still has the factory cap. I suspect it's not a dealer item, but could be had someplace like eBay? Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Transmission Dipstick
Yes Sent from my iPhone On Dec 24, 2013, at 1:32 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: that's just the standard mercedes fluid check tool, no? On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: It's not really a dipstick you leave in place, it's a tool and they are all over eBay for about $20 Sent from my iPhone On Dec 24, 2013, at 12:57 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: So what's the deal with getting a real dipstick for the transmission on my R129? It still has the factory cap. I suspect it's not a dealer item, but could be had someplace like eBay? Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Anyone want a 450SL?
Hi all, I suddenly find myself with too many cars and not enough garage space, so one has to go. I'm probably going to put it on eBay later this week, but if anyone has any interest, let me know. Photos: http://images.jaimekop.com/2013_12_24_450SL/ Details: 1980 450SL 101k miles Original paint shines nicely, but shows its age in places where its a bit thin. Engine run well Recent water pump Proper german ignition parts, hose clamps and other bits Transmission shifts perfectly Stops well, suspension is tight... minimal play in steering R12 AC still works, but its hard to tell how well when its 40 outside Rebuilt climate control servo works most of the time, vents open and close properly Cruise control works Becker Mexico cassette just serviced Original hirschmann power antenna works Soft top in pretty good condition Includes original hardtop with a stand Original tool roll in trunk Only major issue is the temperature gauge doesn't work. Nearly rust free, with the exception of one spot at the rear passenger side floor thats more of an issue of missing undercoating rather than serious rot. Its not a perfect car, but its a nice car... looking for under $5000. Although I've only driven it locally, it would probably make a longer highway trip without any issue. Merry Christmas! Jaime ja...@jaimekop.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anyone want a 450SL?
i sure do! but where do i park it? how do i pay for it? etc On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 2:39 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.comwrote: Hi all, I suddenly find myself with too many cars and not enough garage space, so one has to go. I'm probably going to put it on eBay later this week, but if anyone has any interest, let me know. Photos: http://images.jaimekop.com/2013_12_24_450SL/ Details: 1980 450SL 101k miles Original paint shines nicely, but shows its age in places where its a bit thin. Engine run well Recent water pump Proper german ignition parts, hose clamps and other bits Transmission shifts perfectly Stops well, suspension is tight... minimal play in steering R12 AC still works, but its hard to tell how well when its 40 outside Rebuilt climate control servo works most of the time, vents open and close properly Cruise control works Becker Mexico cassette just serviced Original hirschmann power antenna works Soft top in pretty good condition Includes original hardtop with a stand Original tool roll in trunk Only major issue is the temperature gauge doesn't work. Nearly rust free, with the exception of one spot at the rear passenger side floor thats more of an issue of missing undercoating rather than serious rot. Its not a perfect car, but its a nice car... looking for under $5000. Although I've only driven it locally, it would probably make a longer highway trip without any issue. Merry Christmas! Jaime ja...@jaimekop.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anyone want a 450SL?
is it colorless? On Dec 24, 2013 2:39 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I suddenly find myself with too many cars and not enough garage space, so one has to go. I'm probably going to put it on eBay later this week, but if anyone has any interest, let me know. Photos: http://images.jaimekop.com/2013_12_24_450SL/ Details: 1980 450SL 101k miles Original paint shines nicely, but shows its age in places where its a bit thin. Engine run well Recent water pump Proper german ignition parts, hose clamps and other bits Transmission shifts perfectly Stops well, suspension is tight... minimal play in steering R12 AC still works, but its hard to tell how well when its 40 outside Rebuilt climate control servo works most of the time, vents open and close properly Cruise control works Becker Mexico cassette just serviced Original hirschmann power antenna works Soft top in pretty good condition Includes original hardtop with a stand Original tool roll in trunk Only major issue is the temperature gauge doesn't work. Nearly rust free, with the exception of one spot at the rear passenger side floor thats more of an issue of missing undercoating rather than serious rot. Its not a perfect car, but its a nice car... looking for under $5000. Although I've only driven it locally, it would probably make a longer highway trip without any issue. Merry Christmas! Jaime ja...@jaimekop.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anyone want a 450SL?
i take it back. The diamond blue is stunning! On Dec 24, 2013 2:39 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I suddenly find myself with too many cars and not enough garage space, so one has to go. I'm probably going to put it on eBay later this week, but if anyone has any interest, let me know. Photos: http://images.jaimekop.com/2013_12_24_450SL/ Details: 1980 450SL 101k miles Original paint shines nicely, but shows its age in places where its a bit thin. Engine run well Recent water pump Proper german ignition parts, hose clamps and other bits Transmission shifts perfectly Stops well, suspension is tight... minimal play in steering R12 AC still works, but its hard to tell how well when its 40 outside Rebuilt climate control servo works most of the time, vents open and close properly Cruise control works Becker Mexico cassette just serviced Original hirschmann power antenna works Soft top in pretty good condition Includes original hardtop with a stand Original tool roll in trunk Only major issue is the temperature gauge doesn't work. Nearly rust free, with the exception of one spot at the rear passenger side floor thats more of an issue of missing undercoating rather than serious rot. Its not a perfect car, but its a nice car... looking for under $5000. Although I've only driven it locally, it would probably make a longer highway trip without any issue. Merry Christmas! Jaime ja...@jaimekop.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anyone want a 450SL?
No, its quite colorful... lots of shades of blue! You couldn't see the photos? Jaime On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 2:42 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: is it colorless? On Dec 24, 2013 2:39 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I suddenly find myself with too many cars and not enough garage space, so one has to go. I'm probably going to put it on eBay later this week, but if anyone has any interest, let me know. Photos: http://images.jaimekop.com/2013_12_24_450SL/ Details: 1980 450SL 101k miles Original paint shines nicely, but shows its age in places where its a bit thin. Engine run well Recent water pump Proper german ignition parts, hose clamps and other bits Transmission shifts perfectly Stops well, suspension is tight... minimal play in steering R12 AC still works, but its hard to tell how well when its 40 outside Rebuilt climate control servo works most of the time, vents open and close properly Cruise control works Becker Mexico cassette just serviced Original hirschmann power antenna works Soft top in pretty good condition Includes original hardtop with a stand Original tool roll in trunk Only major issue is the temperature gauge doesn't work. Nearly rust free, with the exception of one spot at the rear passenger side floor thats more of an issue of missing undercoating rather than serious rot. Its not a perfect car, but its a nice car... looking for under $5000. Although I've only driven it locally, it would probably make a longer highway trip without any issue. Merry Christmas! Jaime ja...@jaimekop.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anyone want a 450SL?
Oh Yeah, I'm supposed to mention the car is located in historic Morristown, NJ... Washington's headquaters! Jaime On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 2:39 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.comwrote: Hi all, I suddenly find myself with too many cars and not enough garage space, so one has to go. I'm probably going to put it on eBay later this week, but if anyone has any interest, let me know. Photos: http://images.jaimekop.com/2013_12_24_450SL/ Details: 1980 450SL 101k miles Original paint shines nicely, but shows its age in places where its a bit thin. Engine run well Recent water pump Proper german ignition parts, hose clamps and other bits Transmission shifts perfectly Stops well, suspension is tight... minimal play in steering R12 AC still works, but its hard to tell how well when its 40 outside Rebuilt climate control servo works most of the time, vents open and close properly Cruise control works Becker Mexico cassette just serviced Original hirschmann power antenna works Soft top in pretty good condition Includes original hardtop with a stand Original tool roll in trunk Only major issue is the temperature gauge doesn't work. Nearly rust free, with the exception of one spot at the rear passenger side floor thats more of an issue of missing undercoating rather than serious rot. Its not a perfect car, but its a nice car... looking for under $5000. Although I've only driven it locally, it would probably make a longer highway trip without any issue. Merry Christmas! Jaime ja...@jaimekop.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Filthy dirty hairy 123 '85 TD Wagon oil cooler lines
Moondog was a fixture around Rockefeller Center for years. Blind, yes , but he was hardly a panhandler. I remember him well, and I even have one of his albums. blind American composer, musician, poet and inventor of several musical instruments http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moondog Tom Message: 7 Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2013 12:34:12 -0500 From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Filthy dirty hairy 123 '85 TD Wagon oil cooler lines Message-ID: caciok3u-bqhpkdt_6oyts4czyymei-voqbw4e6tpx4z1syo...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 no, you don't listen. but try to listen to this. works best with the composer's personal back story. he was a blind panhandler in NYC http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aK0yv9ME-h8 On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.comwrote: Gary wrote: are you not listening? Will I ever listen? Sometimes I can't make sense of my posts to which you respond, so... probably not. Too bad for you. Me? - yeah, too bad also. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Scored an R129!
I'll never forgive my friend Dave for selling his Miata without letting me have a crack at it. His was black on black, early car with the flip up headlights. I just barely fit although my head did rub the roof occasionally. What a fun car to drive. Want the top up? Reach back and grab it and put it up. Want it down? Release two latches and put it down. I love that. Someday I want an early Miata. Actually I'd really like an MG but I think the Miata would be better to live with. -Curt Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2013 13:20:28 -0500 From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Scored an R129! Message-ID: 762439BC06CA45638FA6DA407626D8AE@wiltonPC Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1;    reply-type=original Not I; don't even need (nor want) one with a multithou-$ factory hole in the top.. Wilton - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 11:58 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Scored an R129! i think everyone in life needs an open car ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Scored an R129!
Sounds great, congrats Dan! On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 11:56 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Woo-hoo! Just made a deal on a 1997 SL500. The good, the bad, the ugly: Good: Red with black interior 40th Anniversary Edition (according to VIN) 71,000 miles Body is near perfect Interior is very good condition Soft top is as new Bad: Top hydraulics need replacement Oil tube or tubes possibly bad on right side of engine (slight single lifter tick) Aftermarket radio (owner has original Becker) CEL is on with code for O2 sensor Ugly: Hard top headliner gone, will need to replace Rebuilt title (car was totaled in 2007 due to front end damage, rebuilt by local dealer) Price: $5000 Some observations: According to the VIN this is a 40th Anniversary model. However, it has trunk badging, which the 40th Anniversary models were not supposed to have. I can only assume that this was installed in the past when there was a rear end damage noted in the DMV reports from the original owner. I'm torn as to whether or not I should leave it on the car or not. Lifter tick could very well be due to lack of use. The car has been driven less than 3000 miles in the last 4 years, so it's sat a lot. I'll drain the engine and refill with the required Mobil1 0W40 as soon as I get it and drive a little while to see if the tick goes away. Thanks to Klaus at Top Hydraulics and others it looks like the top controller is probably OK. The window drop feature does work, meaning that the system is probably synchronized. However, the PO has operated the top manually, meaning that they probably upset the system at some point and invoked the safeties, I suspect. There was some beeping when I started the car, which I believe was due to the top system complaining. I was able to raise the roll bar using the switch on the console, however, this apparently pressurized the system, which caused the leaking cylinders in the top of the windshield frame to leak hydraulic fluid out the trim covers of the windshield corners. This also leads me to believe that the hydraulic system is probably OK but needs to be sorted out. I'm figuring about $2k worth of repairs (parts) will be necessary to get it completely sorted out, after which I should have a very nice, 100% working SL500. I take delivery on Thursday. What a great Christmas present! Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Scored an R129!
There is a guy in my neighborhood with an unrestored TR3. He was out driving it the other day, and passed me in my W140. While I'm sure it would be a fun car, I just sat there in my W140 thinking about how quiet and comfortable I was...and safe. Dan On Dec 24, 2013, at 2:55 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: I'll never forgive my friend Dave for selling his Miata without letting me have a crack at it. His was black on black, early car with the flip up headlights. I just barely fit although my head did rub the roof occasionally. What a fun car to drive. Want the top up? Reach back and grab it and put it up. Want it down? Release two latches and put it down. I love that. Someday I want an early Miata. Actually I'd really like an MG but I think the Miata would be better to live with. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Transmission Dipstick
Yeah, since this car has only 70k on it, I'm thinking it's never been serviced or at best, serviced once, since I believe the interval (after they came out and said it could be serviced) is 60k. I know the tools aren't permanent dipsticks but just used to check the level. I'm going to get some of the sealing pins for the cap next time I'm over at the dealership, which will probably be Friday Thanks! Dan On Dec 24, 2013, at 2:33 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: You should change it at a regular sort of interval, that's what I do. Don't know about febi, the mb fluid is the only way to go. Hursty should be able to get it for you Sent from my iPhone On Dec 24, 2013, at 1:19 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: i'd think your standard febi fluid would be fine. see if you can find the spec on febi part number 22806, which is the febi dexron III (not the same as the old grapefruit smelling fluid that jaime is so in love with) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Oil Recommendations?
Yeah, I know I am trying to find what oil was recommended for the M119 in the R129. I am really confused, as my S500 with the M119 has a sticker that says Mobil1 0W40 on the engine, which is what I have always used. There is no such sticker on the R129. The owner's manual just says to check with Mercedes for the proper oil. I looked in their fluid specifications (bevo) and there is no reference to the M119 engine. I'm wondering if there's a reason not to use Mobil1 in it, just as my S500 does? Confused. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil Recommendations?
Dan, Mobil One is correct, 0w40 or 5w40 European formula... It should list 229.3 and 229.5 specs on the label. Jaime On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Yeah, I know I am trying to find what oil was recommended for the M119 in the R129. I am really confused, as my S500 with the M119 has a sticker that says Mobil1 0W40 on the engine, which is what I have always used. There is no such sticker on the R129. The owner's manual just says to check with Mercedes for the proper oil. I looked in their fluid specifications (bevo) and there is no reference to the M119 engine. I'm wondering if there's a reason not to use Mobil1 in it, just as my S500 does? Confused. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anyone want a 450SL?
Hmm maybe Sent from my iPhone On Dec 24, 2013, at 1:39 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I suddenly find myself with too many cars and not enough garage space, so one has to go. I'm probably going to put it on eBay later this week, but if anyone has any interest, let me know. Photos: http://images.jaimekop.com/2013_12_24_450SL/ Details: 1980 450SL 101k miles Original paint shines nicely, but shows its age in places where its a bit thin. Engine run well Recent water pump Proper german ignition parts, hose clamps and other bits Transmission shifts perfectly Stops well, suspension is tight... minimal play in steering R12 AC still works, but its hard to tell how well when its 40 outside Rebuilt climate control servo works most of the time, vents open and close properly Cruise control works Becker Mexico cassette just serviced Original hirschmann power antenna works Soft top in pretty good condition Includes original hardtop with a stand Original tool roll in trunk Only major issue is the temperature gauge doesn't work. Nearly rust free, with the exception of one spot at the rear passenger side floor thats more of an issue of missing undercoating rather than serious rot. Its not a perfect car, but its a nice car... looking for under $5000. Although I've only driven it locally, it would probably make a longer highway trip without any issue. Merry Christmas! Jaime ja...@jaimekop.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anyone want a 450SL?
Quit whining, this time of year you should be racking in the money doing a mall Santa gig or something Sent from my iPhone On Dec 24, 2013, at 1:41 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: i sure do! but where do i park it? how do i pay for it? etc On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 2:39 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.comwrote: Hi all, I suddenly find myself with too many cars and not enough garage space, so one has to go. I'm probably going to put it on eBay later this week, but if anyone has any interest, let me know. Photos: http://images.jaimekop.com/2013_12_24_450SL/ Details: 1980 450SL 101k miles Original paint shines nicely, but shows its age in places where its a bit thin. Engine run well Recent water pump Proper german ignition parts, hose clamps and other bits Transmission shifts perfectly Stops well, suspension is tight... minimal play in steering R12 AC still works, but its hard to tell how well when its 40 outside Rebuilt climate control servo works most of the time, vents open and close properly Cruise control works Becker Mexico cassette just serviced Original hirschmann power antenna works Soft top in pretty good condition Includes original hardtop with a stand Original tool roll in trunk Only major issue is the temperature gauge doesn't work. Nearly rust free, with the exception of one spot at the rear passenger side floor thats more of an issue of missing undercoating rather than serious rot. Its not a perfect car, but its a nice car... looking for under $5000. Although I've only driven it locally, it would probably make a longer highway trip without any issue. Merry Christmas! Jaime ja...@jaimekop.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Transmission Dipstick
You should be able to just press the locking pin out and remove the cap, then put the cap back on and put the locking pin back in. Hard to describe in an email but look at it and you should see what I mean. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 24, 2013, at 2:16 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Yeah, since this car has only 70k on it, I'm thinking it's never been serviced or at best, serviced once, since I believe the interval (after they came out and said it could be serviced) is 60k. I know the tools aren't permanent dipsticks but just used to check the level. I'm going to get some of the sealing pins for the cap next time I'm over at the dealership, which will probably be Friday Thanks! Dan On Dec 24, 2013, at 2:33 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: You should change it at a regular sort of interval, that's what I do. Don't know about febi, the mb fluid is the only way to go. Hursty should be able to get it for you Sent from my iPhone On Dec 24, 2013, at 1:19 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: i'd think your standard febi fluid would be fine. see if you can find the spec on febi part number 22806, which is the febi dexron III (not the same as the old grapefruit smelling fluid that jaime is so in love with) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil Recommendations?
On Tue, 24 Dec 2013 15:30:31 -0500 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Yeah, I know I am trying to find what oil was recommended for the M119 in the R129. So you have a second M119! I do still have the parts we were talking about. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil Recommendations?
Yeah, I know. I have a half composed email for you about the CD changer, too... My newer M119 is electronic ignition, so no distributor... I'll finish my email to you tonight. Dan On Dec 24, 2013, at 3:43 PM, Craig wrote: On Tue, 24 Dec 2013 15:30:31 -0500 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Yeah, I know I am trying to find what oil was recommended for the M119 in the R129. So you have a second M119! I do still have the parts we were talking about. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil Recommendations?
Thanks, Jaime! I was sure that was the case, but as I mentioned, no sticker in the engine compartment and nothing in the owner's manual, either. Just thought that was strange. I'll go look those specs up in the bevo system. Dan On Dec 24, 2013, at 3:35 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: Dan, Mobil One is correct, 0w40 or 5w40 European formula... It should list 229.3 and 229.5 specs on the label. Jaime ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Civil Service, Oh Yeah! qa9uqavy
Don't forget that those services used by that two earner family are providing more employment for others. They'd be without a job if mom stayed home and did all that herself. On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 1:25 AM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: Don't forget that all this additional economic activity, like day care so a wife (or husband, for that matter) can work generates more income for the Government to tax. When mom cooks: no taxes. But when the family goes out to Cracker Barrel, government at several levels gets a piece of the action (e.g. taxes, inspectors, regulators, etc). -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Scored an R129!
The Alfa spider has a very easy top to put up and down. Can be done while driving. Also a blast to drive. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 24, 2013, at 2:55 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I'll never forgive my friend Dave for selling his Miata without letting me have a crack at it. His was black on black, early car with the flip up headlights. I just barely fit although my head did rub the roof occasionally. What a fun car to drive. Want the top up? Reach back and grab it and put it up. Want it down? Release two latches and put it down. I love that. Someday I want an early Miata. Actually I'd really like an MG but I think the Miata would be better to live with. -Curt Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2013 13:20:28 -0500 From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Scored an R129! Message-ID: 762439BC06CA45638FA6DA407626D8AE@wiltonPC Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Not I; don't even need (nor want) one with a multithou-$ factory hole in the top.. Wilton - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 11:58 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Scored an R129! i think everyone in life needs an open car ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Scored an R129!
I'm digging my A209top down two days in a row. Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Scored an R129!
Wazzat? On Dec 24, 2013 5:09 PM, Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote: I'm digging my A209top down two days in a row. Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Scored an R129!
It's finally cooled down here. Record heat (mid 80s) the last 4-5 days. Cold front went through last night so now it's in the 70s. Dan On Dec 24, 2013, at 5:09 PM, Bob Rentfro wrote: I'm digging my A209top down two days in a row. Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Scored an R129!
CLK350 Cabriolet. It is a blast. Quite different from the 1980 240D. Bob R On Dec 24, 2013 3:14 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Wazzat? On Dec 24, 2013 5:09 PM, Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote: I'm digging my A209top down two days in a row. Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Anyone need a car for CHristmas?
This guy has some nice MBs for sale. I looked at them briefly, but not thoroughly. These are completely rust free southern cars in Mississippi: 560SEL 4x,xxx original miles for real. White I don't ask the price. Has sheepskins. Looks like the seats have never been sat on. 420SEL 91, Smoke sliver 89,xxx miles. Nice car. Very shiney! Obviously has been garaged. He wants $5k for this one. For the Dissel lovers: 300SD (W116) White, I forgot to ask the mileage It has new style GP relay and pencil type GPs. That would make it an 80 or newer. Very clean engine. He says it runs very smoothly. Being a 116 US model it has the crypsler ACC IF i were looking for a car, I'd want to drive all 3 of these, then decide. I love the 126, and if I wanted a gas MB, a 420SEL or 560 SEL would be my pick. Contact: Ronnie at: (228) 832-6609 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] brake power bleeder
A word of caution when using this system. ALWAYS put the cap on the clutch master cylinder loosely. If you don't you will squirt brake fluid in places you don't want and peel paint [don't ask how I know this ;)) ] For clutch systems, I've also used for years a manual oil pump can, the old hardware store kind that has NEVER had oil in it.. same system with clear hose and pumping from the bottom. The volume of fluid in a clutch system is pretty small so it doesn't take a lot of hand pumping to get it done. I invented the system to bleed the very pesky clutch slaves on Ford trucks.. they are at least as hard to bleed as the MG's and much harder to push off the road when the clutch won't release on the test drive ;)). Grant...(4/26/13) Grant, could you tell me how you made the power bleeder for brakes? Was that an electric fuel pump too? I am thinking a mightyvac to pressurize a quart can/bottle with a tube out for the line to the bleeder. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Scored an R129!
Yup, IIRC, the Alfa and possibly the Fiat 124 Spyder had one handed tops. The British roadsters were more of a pain to operate, at least up through the TR4, MGB. Having owned and worked on MGs and Triumphs in the '60s and early '70s, and my son having borrowed a mid-series Miata this summer, I can say that the Miata is both more fun to drive, and a much more refined automobile. An older MG is more like a stripped down 240D (with no AC or power anything) that you have to tune every weekend and repair frequently. Don't even count on the elecrtical system working! Wilton, there is a big difference between a hole in the roof, and having no roof at all! Much better without a roof than having a hole in one - BTDT. On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 3:59 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: The Alfa spider has a very easy top to put up and down. Can be done while driving. Also a blast to drive. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 24, 2013, at 2:55 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I'll never forgive my friend Dave for selling his Miata without letting me have a crack at it. His was black on black, early car with the flip up headlights. I just barely fit although my head did rub the roof occasionally. What a fun car to drive. Want the top up? Reach back and grab it and put it up. Want it down? Release two latches and put it down. I love that. Someday I want an early Miata. Actually I'd really like an MG but I think the Miata would be better to live with. -Curt -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Land rover thoughts?
I'm thinking about getting a beater land rover discovery or range rover for my mom so she can spare her nice 2005 G-wagen from salt duty. Any thoughts on these cars? Are they crap? I like the aluminum bodies that don't rust and they are fairly inexpensive once 10 years old or older. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Transmission Dipstick
Dan Penoff wrote: Looks like they're all over the place on eBay. Guess I'll need to find out what model tranny I have. Probably a 722.6 of some sort. I keep reading things about fluid shock on these transmissions. Are these people nuts, or is it a bad idea to change ATF all at once? Also, is the fluid an MB only sort of thing? I used Shell 134 ATF in my 1999 E320, cost about $70-80 for a case of 12 at Ryder Fleet last year, but it looks like they quit selling it. The spec was superceded, but a lot of people think you should put the old spec in the 1990s 5sp. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Civil Service, Oh Yeah! qa9uqavy
I think the trees are blinding us to the forest here. The real question should be where did the good jobs, why, and go and how do we get some of them back? The most interesting part of this question is why. And Merry Christmas to all. Scott -Original Message- From: Peter Frederick Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 8:24 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Civil Service, Oh Yeah! qa9uqavy Don't forget that US wages adjusted for inflation have been falling since the 70s. Locally skilled worker wages have been unchanged since the 80's -- people are making exactly what they were 30 years ago, which of course means they HAVE to have everyone in the family working to have a place to live, let alone save something for retirement. ... You can live pretty well on a single industrial income in America if you are lucky and get one of the few good jobs left, but the majority of people simply cannot. ... Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Land rover thoughts?
I'm thinking about getting a beater land rover discovery or range rover for my mom so she can spare her nice 2005 G-wagen from salt duty. Any thoughts on these cars? Are they crap? I like the aluminum bodies that don't rust and they are fairly inexpensive once 10 years old or older. Sent from my iPhone Seem to be the insignia of choice for rich former yuppies. If BMW is the ultimate driving mosheen, then the LR may the ultimate yupmobile. Why not just get a domestic exploder/clone or a santafe or whatever? At least those you can get parts for. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Civil Service, Oh Yeah! dave3u9a
Scott Ritchey wrote: When I got to Stanford (USAF-sponsored PhD program in 1984) one thing I discovered (which surprised me) was that the professors didn't really know which other professors were good teachers. But the students figured it out pretty quick and they had great word-of-mouth intelligence data on this subject. In most cases (within limits) I shopped for the best teacher vs the best-sounding course description. In the late 1970s, a fellow named Mark Grebner saw a need for such info, and distributed surveys across MSU's East Lansing campus. He compiled the results into a little pamplet called 'grading the profs', which he sold for a few dollars each. I suspect it was a decent little business for him, and he had new editions annually. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 '85 TD Wagon castor Adjustors and other suspension stuff dave3u9a
Fmiser wrote: Regardless of any other work you might do to the rear suspension, those accumulators need to be fresh. Just ask Andrew. :) It doesn't take long at all driving on shot accumulators to kill the control valve, and that little sucker is big bucks. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Scored an R129!
I can't fit in a Miata - I'm too tall. Dan Sent from my iPad On Dec 24, 2013, at 5:33 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Yup, IIRC, the Alfa and possibly the Fiat 124 Spyder had one handed tops. The British roadsters were more of a pain to operate, at least up through the TR4, MGB. Having owned and worked on MGs and Triumphs in the '60s and early '70s, and my son having borrowed a mid-series Miata this summer, I can say that the Miata is both more fun to drive, and a much more refined automobile. An older MG is more like a stripped down 240D (with no AC or power anything) that you have to tune every weekend and repair frequently. Don't even count on the elecrtical system working! Wilton, there is a big difference between a hole in the roof, and having no roof at all! Much better without a roof than having a hole in one - BTDT. On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 3:59 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: The Alfa spider has a very easy top to put up and down. Can be done while driving. Also a blast to drive. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 24, 2013, at 2:55 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I'll never forgive my friend Dave for selling his Miata without letting me have a crack at it. His was black on black, early car with the flip up headlights. I just barely fit although my head did rub the roof occasionally. What a fun car to drive. Want the top up? Reach back and grab it and put it up. Want it down? Release two latches and put it down. I love that. Someday I want an early Miata. Actually I'd really like an MG but I think the Miata would be better to live with. -Curt -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Land rover thoughts?
Cuz she don't want no beat up redneck truck. Her primary car is a G-wagen! Sent from my iPhone On Dec 24, 2013, at 6:02 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: I'm thinking about getting a beater land rover discovery or range rover for my mom so she can spare her nice 2005 G-wagen from salt duty. Any thoughts on these cars? Are they crap? I like the aluminum bodies that don't rust and they are fairly inexpensive once 10 years old or older. Sent from my iPhone Seem to be the insignia of choice for rich former yuppies. If BMW is the ultimate driving mosheen, then the LR may the ultimate yupmobile. Why not just get a domestic exploder/clone or a santafe or whatever? At least those you can get parts for. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Civil Service, Oh Yeah! qa9uqavy
Should read: I think the trees are blinding us to the forest here. The real question should be where did the good jobs go, why, and and how do we get some of them back? The most interesting part of this question is why. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Scott Ritchey Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 5:58 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] Civil Service, Oh Yeah! qa9uqavy I think the trees are blinding us to the forest here. The real question should be where did the good jobs, why, and go and how do we get some of them back? The most interesting part of this question is why. And Merry Christmas to all. Scott -Original Message- From: Peter Frederick Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 8:24 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Civil Service, Oh Yeah! qa9uqavy Don't forget that US wages adjusted for inflation have been falling since the 70s. Locally skilled worker wages have been unchanged since the 80's -- people are making exactly what they were 30 years ago, which of course means they HAVE to have everyone in the family working to have a place to live, let alone save something for retirement. ... You can live pretty well on a single industrial income in America if you are lucky and get one of the few good jobs left, but the majority of people simply cannot. ... Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Scored an R129!
Lose the top all together! On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 5:42 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: I can't fit in a Miata - I'm too tall. Dan -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Land rover thoughts?
Then get a first generation ML --- On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 5:50 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Cuz she don't want no beat up redneck truck. Her primary car is a G-wagen! Sent from my iPhone On Dec 24, 2013, at 6:02 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: I'm thinking about getting a beater land rover discovery or range rover for my mom so she can spare her nice 2005 G-wagen from salt duty. Any thoughts on these cars? Are they crap? I like the aluminum bodies that don't rust and they are fairly inexpensive once 10 years old or older. Sent from my iPhone Seem to be the insignia of choice for rich former yuppies. If BMW is the ultimate driving mosheen, then the LR may the ultimate yupmobile. Why not just get a domestic exploder/clone or a santafe or whatever? At least those you can get parts for. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Land rover thoughts?
Aren't those crap? Sent from my iPhone On Dec 24, 2013, at 7:29 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Then get a first generation ML --- On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 5:50 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Cuz she don't want no beat up redneck truck. Her primary car is a G-wagen! Sent from my iPhone On Dec 24, 2013, at 6:02 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: I'm thinking about getting a beater land rover discovery or range rover for my mom so she can spare her nice 2005 G-wagen from salt duty. Any thoughts on these cars? Are they crap? I like the aluminum bodies that don't rust and they are fairly inexpensive once 10 years old or older. Sent from my iPhone Seem to be the insignia of choice for rich former yuppies. If BMW is the ultimate driving mosheen, then the LR may the ultimate yupmobile. Why not just get a domestic exploder/clone or a santafe or whatever? At least those you can get parts for. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] brake power bleeder
I made one out of a 1 gallon plastic pump sprayer. Works great! I can dig up the plans if you want me to. I found them online. Dan Sent from my iPad On Dec 24, 2013, at 5:25 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: A word of caution when using this system. ALWAYS put the cap on the clutch master cylinder loosely. If you don't you will squirt brake fluid in places you don't want and peel paint [don't ask how I know this ;)) ] For clutch systems, I've also used for years a manual oil pump can, the old hardware store kind that has NEVER had oil in it.. same system with clear hose and pumping from the bottom. The volume of fluid in a clutch system is pretty small so it doesn't take a lot of hand pumping to get it done. I invented the system to bleed the very pesky clutch slaves on Ford trucks.. they are at least as hard to bleed as the MG's and much harder to push off the road when the clutch won't release on the test drive ;)). Grant...(4/26/13) Grant, could you tell me how you made the power bleeder for brakes? Was that an electric fuel pump too? I am thinking a mightyvac to pressurize a quart can/bottle with a tube out for the line to the bleeder. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] brake power bleeder
Here are the plans I used: http://faculty.ccp.edu/faculty/dreed/campingart/jettatech/bleeder/ Dan Sent from my iPad On Dec 24, 2013, at 7:36 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: I made one out of a 1 gallon plastic pump sprayer. Works great! I can dig up the plans if you want me to. I found them online. Dan Sent from my iPad On Dec 24, 2013, at 5:25 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: A word of caution when using this system. ALWAYS put the cap on the clutch master cylinder loosely. If you don't you will squirt brake fluid in places you don't want and peel paint [don't ask how I know this ;)) ] For clutch systems, I've also used for years a manual oil pump can, the old hardware store kind that has NEVER had oil in it.. same system with clear hose and pumping from the bottom. The volume of fluid in a clutch system is pretty small so it doesn't take a lot of hand pumping to get it done. I invented the system to bleed the very pesky clutch slaves on Ford trucks.. they are at least as hard to bleed as the MG's and much harder to push off the road when the clutch won't release on the test drive ;)). Grant...(4/26/13) Grant, could you tell me how you made the power bleeder for brakes? Was that an electric fuel pump too? I am thinking a mightyvac to pressurize a quart can/bottle with a tube out for the line to the bleeder. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Land rover thoughts?
First generation ones had bad reputation. IIRC several problems. On Dec 24, 2013 7:34 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Aren't those crap? Sent from my iPhone On Dec 24, 2013, at 7:29 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Then get a first generation ML --- On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 5:50 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Cuz she don't want no beat up redneck truck. Her primary car is a G-wagen! Sent from my iPhone On Dec 24, 2013, at 6:02 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: I'm thinking about getting a beater land rover discovery or range rover for my mom so she can spare her nice 2005 G-wagen from salt duty. Any thoughts on these cars? Are they crap? I like the aluminum bodies that don't rust and they are fairly inexpensive once 10 years old or older. Sent from my iPhone Seem to be the insignia of choice for rich former yuppies. If BMW is the ultimate driving mosheen, then the LR may the ultimate yupmobile. Why not just get a domestic exploder/clone or a santafe or whatever? At least those you can get parts for. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Merry Christmas!!!!
+1'Specially to Henny and Faye, and kids. Where is Georgia anyhow? What he said. :-) Rick Sent from my iPhone On Dec 24, 2013, at 7:17 PM, Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: *To some of my most favorite people in the whole world -- Here's My Wishes for a Merry Christmas, and a Happy, Healthy and Wealthy New Year!!* -- Sincerely, LarryT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anyone want a 450SL?
Sure, but you might as well get rich Sent from my iPhone On Dec 24, 2013, at 9:28 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: if i told you i don't believe in the commercialization of christmas, would those words make sense to you? On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: Quit whining, this time of year you should be racking in the money doing a mall Santa gig or something Sent from my iPhone On Dec 24, 2013, at 1:41 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: i sure do! but where do i park it? how do i pay for it? etc On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 2:39 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I suddenly find myself with too many cars and not enough garage space, so one has to go. I'm probably going to put it on eBay later this week, but if anyone has any interest, let me know. Photos: http://images.jaimekop.com/2013_12_24_450SL/ Details: 1980 450SL 101k miles Original paint shines nicely, but shows its age in places where its a bit thin. Engine run well Recent water pump Proper german ignition parts, hose clamps and other bits Transmission shifts perfectly Stops well, suspension is tight... minimal play in steering R12 AC still works, but its hard to tell how well when its 40 outside Rebuilt climate control servo works most of the time, vents open and close properly Cruise control works Becker Mexico cassette just serviced Original hirschmann power antenna works Soft top in pretty good condition Includes original hardtop with a stand Original tool roll in trunk Only major issue is the temperature gauge doesn't work. Nearly rust free, with the exception of one spot at the rear passenger side floor thats more of an issue of missing undercoating rather than serious rot. Its not a perfect car, but its a nice car... looking for under $5000. Although I've only driven it locally, it would probably make a longer highway trip without any issue. Merry Christmas! Jaime ja...@jaimekop.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Merry Christmas!!!!
*To some of my most favorite people in the whole world -- Here's My Wishes for a Merry Christmas, and a Happy, Healthy and Wealthy New Year!!* -- Sincerely, LarryT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] re Brake Bleeder Valve removal
Hi Gang - I have the stuff gathered to change my bleeder valves and RR the Brake fluid - well everything but the time and the brake fluid. 2 questions: 1. What DOT BF Should I use? I used to use DOT 4 but some forums have made that sound like a poor choice. 2. How can I remove the old valves and put the new ones in without losing lots of fluid or letting sir into the system? Some have suggested using a short pipe to put between the seat and pedal so the pedal is slightly depressed. does that prevent air entering the system? Not sure I'll have the time to finish the job at one time. Thanks Guys! Sincerely, Larry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Land rover thoughts?
No. the issues were mostly minor and cosmetic, and have likely already been fixed by now. I had a 2001, that I sold the Kaleb when I dumped all the old cars last year. It was fine. On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 6:34 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Aren't those crap? Sent from my iPhone On Dec 24, 2013, at 7:29 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Then get a first generation ML --- -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Beckermania
How much did that run you? Sent from my iPhone On Dec 24, 2013, at 7:09 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Got my reman 1492 with aux input tonight. Five minutes later it was in the dash and making serious noise. Ed and his people rock! (As do their radios!) I'll need to get another for the SL500 as well, since the PO told me the volume control was acting up Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Land rover thoughts?
I had an old 1973 series III. Was a cool vehicle. Aluminum body doesn't rust but frames did on older ones. I also had a GMC Jimmy but LR was better esp off road in snow. YMMV On Dec 24, 2013 5:34 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm thinking about getting a beater land rover discovery or range rover for my mom so she can spare her nice 2005 G-wagen from salt duty. Any thoughts on these cars? Are they crap? I like the aluminum bodies that don't rust and they are fairly inexpensive once 10 years old or older. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ho, Ho, Ho!
who says i'm not happy? On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 11:35 PM, Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.comwrote: Gary. Even Scrooge saw the light, eventually. So, be happy, it takes less energy than the alternatives. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 11:32 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ho, Ho, Ho! bah humbug! and a good night to you too, freddie lancs On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 11:20 PM, Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com wrote: And to all a GOOD night. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Merry Christmas!!!!
On Dec 24, 2013, at 9:39 PM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: Santa has been and left me a new office chair and a bunch of Slim Dusty CD's to go with my old Stetson hat and RM Williams boots. Will need to burn some CD's to put in the truck, not sure if Fay will want to listen to Slim in the car. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_ORkeLjmUM That explains Keith Urban I guess. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Merry Christmas!!!!
What he said. :-) Rick Sent from my iPhone On Dec 24, 2013, at 7:17 PM, Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: *To some of my most favorite people in the whole world -- Here's My Wishes for a Merry Christmas, and a Happy, Healthy and Wealthy New Year!!* -- Sincerely, LarryT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Merry Christmas!!!!
What Larry said! Ditto, etc. This will be our first Christmas without kids since 1977! It will be nice and quiet - we'll sleep in late! On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 7:17 PM, Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: *To some of my most favorite people in the whole world -- Here's My Wishes for a Merry Christmas, and a Happy, Healthy and Wealthy New Year!!* -- Sincerely, LarryT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] brake power bleeder
I did something similar - but I mounted a pressure gauge on the tank instead of the valve stem. On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 6:40 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Here are the plans I used: http://faculty.ccp.edu/faculty/dreed/campingart/jettatech/bleeder/ Dan Sent from my iPad On Dec 24, 2013, at 7:36 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: I made one out of a 1 gallon plastic pump sprayer. Works great! I can dig up the plans if you want me to. I found them online. Dan Sent from my iPad On Dec 24, 2013, at 5:25 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: A word of caution when using this system. ALWAYS put the cap on the clutch master cylinder loosely. If you don't you will squirt brake fluid in places you don't want and peel paint [don't ask how I know this ;)) ] For clutch systems, I've also used for years a manual oil pump can, the old hardware store kind that has NEVER had oil in it.. same system with clear hose and pumping from the bottom. The volume of fluid in a clutch system is pretty small so it doesn't take a lot of hand pumping to get it done. I invented the system to bleed the very pesky clutch slaves on Ford trucks.. they are at least as hard to bleed as the MG's and much harder to push off the road when the clutch won't release on the test drive ;)). Grant...(4/26/13) Grant, could you tell me how you made the power bleeder for brakes? Was that an electric fuel pump too? I am thinking a mightyvac to pressurize a quart can/bottle with a tube out for the line to the bleeder. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
