Re: [MBZ] more 140 ignorance and hate

2010-12-19 Thread Gerry Archer
I've been off and on the list since it was based in Canada, Walt. Dr. Booth (mhsrip) was the critisizer in chief and his legacy has been a custom of blunt criticism when someone was judged to be wrong. Dr. Booth was seldom wrong, but those who follow his custom sometimes are, and then the

Re: [MBZ] more 140 ignorance and hate

2010-12-19 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Lets get one thing perfectly clear. This list does have a list owner who does enforce the rules. The rules here are not as anal retentive as another list that is out there. Flaming will not be tolerated, period. Jaime is a very strange dude and gets offended easy for whatever reason. Sorry

Re: [MBZ] more 140 ignorance and hate

2010-12-19 Thread Dieselhead
Kaleb, This belong on your famous quotes page. It is extremely hilarious, coming from the master of flaming. Hursty sez: you guys really act viciously and abnormally and i don't think you see it at all ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts

Re: [MBZ] more 140 ignorance

2010-12-19 Thread Jim Cathey
While previously geographically confined primarily to Redmond, WA, and the SanJose, CA area, severe [PD] epidemics are now places like Stuttgart, and Munich in Germany, the entire country of Japan, ... No kidding! They got a new microwave oven at work. The wretched thing beeps out some kind

Re: [MBZ] more 140 ignorance and hate

2010-12-19 Thread LWB250
It's mainly because Hurst is an obsessive maniac who lashes out at anyone who doesn't fall in step with his bizarre and often psychotic ideas, myself being one of those. The easiest way to deal with such things is to utilize your mail filter. It makes the list a far easier read and eliminates

Re: [MBZ] more 140 ignorance and hate

2010-12-19 Thread Max Dillon
Here Here! I second the motion - almost coughed up my cereal reading that one! -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dieselhead Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 9:20 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re:

[MBZ] Ignorance?

2010-12-19 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
Its come to my attention from several list members that I've caused quite a stir with my last post. I thought it was best to resubscribe to the list to address the issue. My comment wasn't directed at any individual, and I apologize if I gave anyone that impression. Very often, things get said

Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth?

2010-12-19 Thread Max Dillon
Also, daughter has already claimed the '95; with my luck, I add another much better looking car, and she'll claim both! So no one has an opinion on the market for a solid but cosmetically challenged '72 280SEL? -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth?

2010-12-19 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
The market is so screwed up right now I just dont want to say. Might be worth 1k, maybe more, maybe less. Look around the net and see what they are selling for. Max Dillon wrote: Also, daughter has already claimed the '95; with my luck, I add another much better looking car, and she'll

Re: [MBZ] more 140 ignorance and hate

2010-12-19 Thread Allan Streib
Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com writes: I've been off and on the list since it was based in Canada, Walt. Dr. Booth (mhsrip) was the critisizer in chief and his legacy has been a custom of blunt criticism when someone was judged to be wrong. Dr. Booth was seldom wrong, but those who

[MBZ] Microwaves and PD WAS:more 140 ignorance

2010-12-19 Thread Dieselhead
I was looking for a MW oven 25 years ago, and when I asked about reliability, the guy at the store said that none of the touchpad ovens last long, as the touchpads fail. He said he had one Litton left with a dial timer. He deemed that machine as the most reliable available. It still works

Re: [MBZ] modern automotive design (was W140)

2010-12-19 Thread Peter Frederick
The problems with all modern automobiles is the replacement of analog mechanical controls with digital electronic controls, and subsequent gross cheapening of mechanical design. Programmer's disease indeed. I suppose the supposition is that a digital computer will compensate for plastic

Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth?

2010-12-19 Thread Peter Frederick
All depends on the local market. It is no longer likely you will find a mechanic who can work on one unless they specialize in antiques, they get horrible milage (12-16, usually more to the low end), parts are getting scarce, too. Wonderful cars in good shape, but I think mine is

[MBZ] Is this a good of a deal as it looks

2010-12-19 Thread Bob Rentfro
http://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/cto/2119667411.html Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] more 140 ignorance and hate

2010-12-19 Thread Peter Frederick
I suspect Jamie might be confusing the Mercedes mystique with actual car ownership. I don't drive a Benz because I want to stick something up my neighbor's nose to make him or her think I'm better than they are, I drive one because it's a safe (crash tested personally) generally

Re: [MBZ] Is this a good of a deal as it looks

2010-12-19 Thread Rich Thomas
Well, 22yo car with 120k miles, most people would not even think of that car at any price. Those who would consider it probably wouldn't see paying more than that. They are not rare or flashy, just a good solid car that will probably need TLC to keep it running, which will over some period

Re: [MBZ] Microwaves and PD

2010-12-19 Thread Jim Cathey
I was looking for a MW oven 25 years ago, and when I asked about reliability, the guy at the store said that none of the touchpad ovens last long, as the touchpads fail. He said he had one Litton left with a dial timer. He deemed that machine as the most reliable available. It still works

Re: [MBZ] more 140 ignorance

2010-12-19 Thread WILTON
'Best microwave oven I've had ('think it was Toshiba, bought in Japan in 1972) simple rotary switch and timer combined; turned it a bit clockwise, and it was ON; 'could keep turning it to the time desired. Performed very well for 25 years; still working well when I rebuilt kitchen, stupidly

Re: [MBZ] bottom gear

2010-12-19 Thread Curt Raymond
Makes me think fondly of the Australians, at least they come up with their own ideas... A friend said it was like somebody made a show and put the Top Gear filter on it but they were using the freeware version. -Curt Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 17:21:07 EST From: relng...@aol.com To:

[MBZ] 88 300TE

2010-12-19 Thread Bob Rentfro
Self destructing wire harness or not?? Bob are ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] 88 300TE

2010-12-19 Thread Peter Frederick
No. However, the engine harness won't last as well as the 1970s ones. Wires exposed to heat and oil will loose their insulation -- this is worst up at the front of the engine. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to

Re: [MBZ] more 140 ignorance and hate

2010-12-19 Thread Gerry Archer
- Original Message - From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com writes: I've been off and on the list since it was based in Canada, Walt. Dr. Booth (mhsrip) was the critisizer in chief and his legacy has been a custom of blunt criticism when someone

Re: [MBZ] more 140 ignorance and hate

2010-12-19 Thread Gerry Archer
I think the problem, Kaleb, is a different definition of flaming between you, and I and Dan and several others on this list. Gerry From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net Lets get one thing perfectly clear. This list does have a list owner who does enforce the rules. The

Re: [MBZ] more 140 ignorance and hate

2010-12-19 Thread Mitch Haley
Gerry Archer wrote: I've been off and on the list since it was based in Canada, Walt. Dr. Booth (mhsrip) was the critisizer in chief and his legacy has been a custom of blunt criticism when someone was judged to be wrong. Ah, yes. Herr Doktor Booth and young Jaime had their disagreements back

Re: [MBZ] 88 300TE

2010-12-19 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
No, not until 1993. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 19, 2010, at 11:13 AM, Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote: Self destructing wire harness or not?? Bob are ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] more 140 ignorance and hate

2010-12-19 Thread Rich Thomas
I changed my pistons and fuses all melted. I don't know what to do now -- if I leave the fuses as they are will my pistons melt? --R On 12/19/2010 11:30 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: Gerry Archer wrote: I've been off and on the list since it was based in Canada, Walt. Dr. Booth (mhsrip) was the

Re: [MBZ] Microwaves and PD WAS:more 140 ignorance

2010-12-19 Thread Allan Streib
Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com writes: I was looking for a MW oven 25 years ago, and when I asked about reliability, the guy at the store said that none of the touchpad ovens last long, as the touchpads fail. He said he had one Litton left with a dial timer. He deemed that machine as the

Re: [MBZ] Is this a good of a deal as it looks

2010-12-19 Thread Mike Gildea
Watch out --title has already been signed over. Question is why? seller not the same as the name on title? somebody illegally flipping cars? Be careful. - Original Message - From: Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday,

Re: [MBZ] Is this a good of a deal as it looks

2010-12-19 Thread Bob Rentfro
He was selling it for a friend. I've walked away from that steaming pile of poop. Bob R On Dec 19, 2010 10:30 AM, Mike Gildea mikgi...@verizon.net wrote: Watch out --title has already been signed over. Question is why? seller not the same as the name on title? somebody illegally flipping cars?

Re: [MBZ] more 140 ignorance and hate

2010-12-19 Thread Gary Hurst
wow attack after attack. where is the moderator during all of this? i attacked no one and get attacked again and again and again by people like penoff (who, btw, is personally beholden to me, which makes it even uglier) we were once friends of sort. it was penoff who named me jabba today,

Re: [MBZ] 88 300TE

2010-12-19 Thread E M
I'm not sure of the years when the harness was an issue, but, after having a good look at the wires, or the insulation on some of the wires on my '88 300E, I think they will need some attention this coming summer. I think such things when exposed to heat, and with age, probably just need

Re: [MBZ] more 140 ignorance and hate

2010-12-19 Thread Gary Hurst
i am master of many things. i guess i can't help it as mastery is in my nature i'm not sure that should make me a target of personal attacks on a daily basis for the bully kids though On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 9:43 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.netwrote: Here Here! I second the motion -

Re: [MBZ] more 140 ignorance

2010-12-19 Thread E M
My folks still have the one I bought them about 25 years ago too. Never failed. I've had it checked a few times to make sure everything was in proper working order. Back then, I think I paid close to $1000 for it. Today, they can be had for $80, but are pretty much a toss away item, like so

Re: [MBZ] Microwaves and PD WAS:more 140 ignorance

2010-12-19 Thread Gary Hurst
yeah, goldstar is LG. back in the 80s, goldstar was considered the bottom of the heap. amazing how far korean product has come On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 12:02 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.eduwrote: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com writes: I was looking for a MW oven 25 years ago, and

[MBZ] Apologies

2010-12-19 Thread Fred Moir
Gary. First. I would like to welcome you back into the fold. We have need of you expertise and experience. Second. I would like to apologize for my vitriolic attack on you the last time you were on the list. It was mean spirited and hateful. For this I ask your forgiveness. -- Fred Moir Lynn

Re: [MBZ] modern automotive design (was W140)

2010-12-19 Thread John Freer
Not sure how you can equate the W140 chassis with the rod bender engine when it was introduced in the W126. People also equate the evaporator and wiring harness failures to the W140 but I suspect there are just a few W124 owners who have had some bad experiences in these areas as well. John On

Re: [MBZ] modern automotive design (was W140)

2010-12-19 Thread Mitch Haley
John Freer wrote: People also equate the evaporator and wiring harness failures to the W140 but I suspect there are just a few W124 owners who have had some bad experiences in these areas as well. John But weren't the W124 evaporators pretty much straightened out by 1992? Seems like that

Re: [MBZ] modern automotive design (was W140)

2010-12-19 Thread E M
All cars have their faults and weaknesses. I think the secret is to find a car that really gives you pleasure to drive, and look at. Then, servicing it, and replacing the funky bits as needed, even if you have to do it more than once, won't be quite so painful. It's good to be aware of a models

Re: [MBZ] more 140 ignorance

2010-12-19 Thread Fmiser
Jim Cathey wrote: It's an _oven_! The world is full of MP3 players, home theater audio systems, etc., and we need an _oven_ that peeps like a diseased chick when your food is ready? Go Jim! Maybe if you complain loud enough someone who can do something about it will hear. Then again -

Re: [MBZ] Apologies

2010-12-19 Thread Gary Hurst
at least sarcasm raises you a step above your peers On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 12:58 PM, Fred Moir fred.s...@verizon.net wrote: Gary. First. I would like to welcome you back into the fold. We have need of you expertise and experience. Second. I would like to apologize for my vitriolic attack

Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: modern automotive design (was W140)

2010-12-19 Thread Jim Cathey
All cars have their faults and weaknesses. They do. But I think I would prefer such weak points as cruise control amps, window switches, and door checks, to engine wiring harnesses, integrated chassis computers, and evaporators. Go, 123's! For the record, the Frankenheap's wiring harness is

Re: [MBZ] more 140 ignorance

2010-12-19 Thread WILTON
Mine in '72 was $180. Wilton - Original Message - From: E M pokieba...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 12:39 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] more 140 ignorance My folks still have the one I bought them about 25 years ago too.

Re: [MBZ] more 140 ignorance

2010-12-19 Thread Walt Zarnoch
We've got an 85 vintage GE dual-wave nuclear reactor, from the pre turntable and glitz days. Had to run the main control board through board rework and conformal coat back around 2000ish after a very steemy cup of coffee, had to replace the main transformer after it arced over and carbon

Re: [MBZ] Apologies

2010-12-19 Thread Fred Moir
Gary. I suppose I deserved that. It is still a sincere apology. If it please you. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred On 12/19/2010 1:28 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: at least sarcasm raises you a step above your peers On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 12:58 PM, Fred Moirfred.s...@verizon.net wrote:

Re: [MBZ] Apologies

2010-12-19 Thread Gary Hurst
i don't feel a need for an apology. i just don't get why some people here can do nothing better than insult others i mean, richard hasn't been here in five years and you guys are still slandering him? why? a lot of people here are just a bunch of bullies. this list is far more vicious than

Re: [MBZ] Microwaves and PD

2010-12-19 Thread Mountain Man
Jim wrote: These are the 123 diesels of the microwave world, IMHO. I dread the day when I'm forced to get a newer one. Just like our cars! My W123 doesn't go 'ding.' OT - I know a guy in Spokane - he says he is busy busy - he does survey work and says investors are buying property like

Re: [MBZ] more 140 ignorance

2010-12-19 Thread Mountain Man
Jaime rote: Wow, the ignorance on this list has reached an all time high. You folks really haven't a clue about how automotive development works, and why an S class is designed the way they are.  Not a clue. Yo - Jaime. Educate us a bit - mind you, not an upper level course - just a whet

Re: [MBZ] more 140 ignorance

2010-12-19 Thread Mountain Man
Ed wrote: My folks still have the one I bought them about 25 years ago too. I have a GE from about that vintage... sitting in the basement, not being used. We don't need not steenking microwave. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to

Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: modern automotive design (was W140)

2010-12-19 Thread Mountain Man
Jim wrote: For the record, the Frankenheap's wiring harness is 38 years old and still in good shape.  No sign of degradation. You don't live in the salt midwest. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list

Re: [MBZ] modern automotive design (was W140)

2010-12-19 Thread Mountain Man
Ed wrote: All cars have their faults and weaknesses.  I think the secret is to find a car that really gives you pleasure to drive, and look at. Hmmm, that is the reason I owned a '76 Dasher wagon, a '75 Nova, an '84 diesel chevyvan - all of which rusted in the midwest, but were surviving well

Re: [MBZ] Microwaves and PD

2010-12-19 Thread Jim Cathey
OT - I know a guy in Spokane - he says he is busy busy - he does survey work and says investors are buying property like crazy. Are you seeing that type of stuff in your area also? Not so that I would notice. But then, why would I? There's a fair amount of overpriced real estate on the market

Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: modern automotive design (was W140)

2010-12-19 Thread Jim Cathey
For the record, the Frankenheap's wiring harness is 38 years old and still in good shape.  No sign of degradation. You don't live in the salt midwest. They salt here now, it's doing vicious things to the Frankenheap. Wires are still good, though. -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] more 140 ignorance and hate

2010-12-19 Thread Mountain Man
hursty wrote: i ask no one to fall in step with my ideas, especially those that are bizarre and psychotic Except... I am even more bizarre and psychotic. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: modern automotive design (was W140)

2010-12-19 Thread Mountain Man
Jim wrote: They salt here now, it's doing vicious things to the Frankenheap. Wires are still good, though. Yes - wires remain, and with sheath, which is nice... after the W140 or whatever discussions about failing insulation... The primary body work getting ugly is a shame for the western USA -

Re: [MBZ] more 140 ignorance and hate

2010-12-19 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
Yes, I did have some disagreements with Dr. Booth. But I recall they were about fundamentals of engine design and operation, not about anything specific on a car. I did have some issues with the idea that anything the dokor said was gold, never to be questioned. But he did alot of good things

Re: [MBZ] more 140 ignorance and hate

2010-12-19 Thread E M
I would welcome more posts on restoration, and preservation. I do feel there are a number of posts on repairs, but I'd like to see more on maintance, and as I said, preservation and restoration of body and interiors, besides mechanical restorations. I have no personal interest in doing body

Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: modern automotive design (was W140)

2010-12-19 Thread E M
I would prefer a poorly designed cigarette lighter to poorly designed valve guides and such too, but as I said, if you love a car, you take it as a package for what it is. I love my old 911 and wouldn't part with it for the world, (except for when Wilton is exercising it for me over the winter),

Re: [MBZ] more 140 ignorance

2010-12-19 Thread E M
LOT of money back in '72! Ed 300E On 19 December 2010 13:54, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Mine in '72 was $180. Wilton - Original Message - From: E M pokieba...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 12:39 PM Subject: Re:

Re: [MBZ] modern automotive design (was W140)

2010-12-19 Thread E M
I bought a GM minivan while waiting for a replacement hose for the old W124. As my English friends would say, it works exactly as it says on the side of the tin. Everything up here takes a beating with the salt too!! I keep meaning to take out some shares in RustcheckI use enough of the

Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth?

2010-12-19 Thread Max Dillon
OK thanks Kaleb, generally you've got the true price of a car nailed. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 9:51 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ]

Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth?

2010-12-19 Thread Max Dillon
Thanks Peter - good info re: mileage - hadn't considered that aspect. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Peter Frederick Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 10:16 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ]

Re: [MBZ] Is this a good of a deal as it looks

2010-12-19 Thread Max Dillon
Only if it doesn't have serious problems, which I will predict that it does based on the price, gutted seat controls for the driver and the missing center cap on LF wheel. Locally there was a '95 wagon on CL a month ago that looked superb for $3500, THAT is the kind of deal that tempts me...

Re: [MBZ] Microwaves and PD

2010-12-19 Thread E M
As the saying goes, you can ask whatever you want for something, but it's only worth what someone is willing to pay you for it. 300E On 19 December 2010 14:52, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: OT - I know a guy in Spokane - he says he is busy busy - he does survey work and says

Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth?

2010-12-19 Thread E M
If you wanted a project car, and you knew you had to justify the price to your wife, pretty much figure that's the story some guys going to have to pitch to his wife. So, it's not what the car is worth, but what amount do you think some guy's wife would tolerate for a hobby for hubby? What would

Re: [MBZ] Is this a good of a deal as it looks

2010-12-19 Thread E M
I'm not sure what your import laws are, or emission requirements are, but there have been some recent changes up here in mid Canada. '88 now require emission testing here, even though they are over 20 yrs old. That is sending a lot of cars of that vintage and newer to the crusher, as it doesn't

Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth?

2010-12-19 Thread Max Dillon
Bingo - what price does SWMBO think is a good price? That is the question... -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of E M Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 4:02 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] What

Re: [MBZ] Is this a good of a deal as it looks

2010-12-19 Thread Allan Streib
E M pokieba...@gmail.com writes: I'm not sure what your import laws are, or emission requirements are, but there have been some recent changes up here in mid Canada. '88 now require emission testing here, even though they are over 20 yrs old. That is sending a lot of cars of that vintage

Re: [MBZ] Is this a good of a deal as it looks

2010-12-19 Thread E M
There have been differences over the years, but I think once they get to a certain age, importing becomes easier, or that's how it is this way. Various things are in metric here, and I was told once that the W140 sedan was built on the Euro platform for Canada, and differs from the one built for

Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth?

2010-12-19 Thread Peter Frederick
Not that they aren't a wonderful car to drive, and a great ride all round, it's just that they really aren't an economic means of transportation. Mine does much better in the snow and ice than my 87 300D, but I still hate to drive it at 14 mpg on premium. Peter

Re: [MBZ] more 140 ignorance and hate

2010-12-19 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
I'd love to post pics of my rust repair projects. I really do high end restoration type metal repairs on my low end cars:) It makes no sense I know but I just can't help myself. I don't rember but is it possible to post attachments here? Sent from my iPhone On Dec 19, 2010, at 3:30 PM, E M

Re: [MBZ] more 140 ignorance and hate

2010-12-19 Thread Mitch Haley
Dimitri Seretakis wrote: I'd love to post pics of my rust repair projects. I really do high end restoration type metal repairs on my low end cars:) It makes no sense I know but I just can't help myself. I don't rember but is it possible to post attachments here? Sent from my iPhone Yes,

Re: [MBZ] more 140 ignorance and hate

2010-12-19 Thread Fred Moir
Jaime K, ED, et al. Jaime, please don't leave, you have experience and resources most of us do not. many of us are old farts and, as any one will tell you, curmudgeons are cranky and opinionated. I for one will try to do better at listening as I have the selective hearing of a long married

Re: [MBZ] more 140 ignorance and hate

2010-12-19 Thread E M
I think any job worth doing, is worth doing properly, or as best as one can. Love to see some pics! Ed 300E On 19 December 2010 17:19, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: I'd love to post pics of my rust repair projects. I really do high end restoration type metal repairs on my low

Re: [MBZ] more 140 ignorance and hate

2010-12-19 Thread E M
There are a couple of community colleges around here that offer auto body classes too. My personal experiences with auto body repairs, even the small ones that I started off feeling quit confident with, always ended in frustration I have a lot of admiration for people who have the skill to bring

[MBZ] OT: Kia Sedona

2010-12-19 Thread Allan Streib
I am in the market for a vehicle with 3 row (7 passenger) seating. There is a '05 Kia Sedona for sale locally. Any experiences? I believe these sold with a 10/100K warranty, anyone know if that transfers to subsequent owners? Allan -- 1983 300D ___

Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth?

2010-12-19 Thread E M
There was a recent article in out local paper here. A former PM of ours, drove an old Mercedes 300SL. His son, while in school, purchased an old 300 SEL, which his friends called, the Staff car. His Dad, the PM said it was a silly purchase, as the running costs were very high, especially for a

Re: [MBZ] more 140 ignorance and hate

2010-12-19 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
Yes, that was a link to shutterfly. I did a quarter panel repair of the same nature on the same car. I'm surprised you remember. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 19, 2010, at 5:22 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Dimitri Seretakis wrote: I'd love to post pics of my rust repair projects. I

Re: [MBZ] more 140 ignorance and hate

2010-12-19 Thread Allan Streib
Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com writes: Yes, that was a link to shutterfly. I did a quarter panel repair of the same nature on the same car. I'm surprised you remember. I don't think anyone who saw those photographs would forget the craftsmanship evident. Allan -- 1983 300D

[MBZ] Fwd: Mercedes 300d - $1200 (Aroostook county)

2010-12-19 Thread Fred Moir
Not Mine etc. Northern Maine anyone? Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred Original Message Subject:mercedes 300d - $1200 (aroostook county) Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2010 15:02:37 -0800 (PST) From: fred.s...@yahoo.com To: fred.s...@verizon.net {email} has forwarded

[MBZ] Fwd: 66 273V8 Formula S Barracuda - $850 (Harrison)

2010-12-19 Thread Fred Moir
I always wanted one. And 57 Benz. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred Original Message Subject:66 273V8 Formula S Barracuda - $850 (Harrison) Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2010 15:04:42 -0800 (PST) From: fred.s...@yahoo.com To: fred.s...@verizon.net {email} has

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Mercedes 300d - $1200 (Aroostook county)

2010-12-19 Thread Allan Streib
Fred Moir fred.s...@verizon.net writes: mercedes 300d Date: 2010-12-16, 2:45PM near mint 91 benz 300d. very clean inside and out. transmission just lost all forward gears except low. reverse works also. was working perfect, just stopped at store and when i left no more 23 or4. like i

Re: [MBZ] more 140 ignorance and hate

2010-12-19 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
And he as since apologized. On 12/19/2010 8:55 AM, Allan Streib wrote: Gerry Archerarche...@embarqmail.com writes: I've been off and on the list since it was based in Canada, Walt. Dr. Booth (mhsrip) was the critisizer in chief and his legacy has been a custom of blunt criticism when someone

Re: [MBZ] more 140 ignorance and hate

2010-12-19 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
Here are some pics: http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=284706 Sent from my iPhone On Dec 19, 2010, at 5:47 PM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote: I think any job worth doing, is worth doing properly, or as best as one can. Love to see some pics! Ed 300E On 19 December 2010

Re: [MBZ] 88 300TE

2010-12-19 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
no On 12/19/2010 10:13 AM, Bob Rentfro wrote: Self destructing wire harness or not?? Bob are ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery

Re: [MBZ] Is this a good of a deal as it looks

2010-12-19 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
well maybe he had it notarized because he was going to sell it to somebody else but they backed out for some reason. On 12/19/2010 11:30 AM, Mike Gildea wrote: Watch out --title has already been signed over. Question is why? seller not the same as the name on title? somebody illegally

Re: [MBZ] Apologies

2010-12-19 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
So the guy says he is sorry and you take it as sarcasm? On 12/19/2010 12:28 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: at least sarcasm raises you a step above your peers On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 12:58 PM, Fred Moirfred.s...@verizon.net wrote: Gary. First. I would like to welcome you back into the fold. We have

Re: [MBZ] Apologies

2010-12-19 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
The list has been just fine until the last day or 2. As far as being asleep at the wheel, I have actually been on the road all weekend. I have not decided it I want to ban or moderate anybody yet. I am hoping it sorts itself out rather soon. As for people on this list slandering Richarde, I

Re: [MBZ] more 140 ignorance and hate

2010-12-19 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I too agree Marshall was a great resource, but even I was sometimes annoyed by the fact that some folks thought his word was gold. He made mistakes about his facts, everyone does. There were a few times when he would say something and I had the opposite experience. On 12/19/2010 2:08 PM,

Re: [MBZ] Microwaves and PD

2010-12-19 Thread Dieselhead
Those microwaves were designed and built in Amana, thus the name. The Amana radarrange was i think the first microwave mass produced for home use. Mine was sent to the thrift store because it had no glass tray. I know I paid more for a new tray than I did for the oven, but it is much nicer

Re: [MBZ] more 140 ignorance and hate

2010-12-19 Thread Rick Knoble
Jaime, I agree with Fred. Don't leave. You have been a resource for much wisdom. I have been on these lists for 8 or 9 years myself. I was on the old DieselTech list too. I never made it to banned until the last few years. I just don't post much. More of a lurker. (but not a troll, :)) I

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Mercedes 300d - $1200 (Aroostook county)

2010-12-19 Thread Mitch Haley
Fred Moir wrote: Not Mine etc. Northern Maine anyone? Curt doesn't have a 190D 5sp parts car anymore, does he? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

Re: [MBZ] Apologies

2010-12-19 Thread Mitch Haley
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: The list has been just fine until the last day or 2. As far as being asleep at the wheel, I have actually been on the road all weekend. I have not decided it I want to ban or moderate anybody yet. I am hoping it sorts itself out rather soon. As for people on this

Re: [MBZ] more 140 ignorance and hate

2010-12-19 Thread Dieselhead
Jaime, I appreciate your prior contributions and I have always had a LOT of respect for you. After this post, my respect is restored, and I ask you to consider remaining. I was really surprised and shocked that you chose to flame the whole list after an extended absence. We all know

Re: [MBZ] more 140 ignorance and hate

2010-12-19 Thread E M
Very impressive!! How is the textured paint applied? Is that a type of paint, or more a technique? Ed 300E On 19 December 2010 18:24, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Here are some pics: http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=284706 Sent from my iPhone On Dec

Re: [MBZ] RUF

2010-12-19 Thread MG
Oh I wasn't talking about the engine bits. I was thinking more that it might be styling bits that would make the car look just a bit different. I'm not really into the go fast stuff as much as I used to be, though a nice handling package that would reduce the roll probably wouldn't go amiss.

Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth?

2010-12-19 Thread toms cat1
I like that. As the saying goes, you can ask whatever you want for something, but it's only worth what someone is willing to pay you for it. And its Corollary: No matter what YOU think it is worth, it is really only worth what his wife is going to let him pay you for it. :) Tom Schuch

Re: [MBZ] more 140 ignorance and hate

2010-12-19 Thread toms cat1
Hi Fred, I am looking to do the same thing (I was looking for a welding class') one of these days, but I just cant seem to find the time right now. One of these years I will do it, though. I will be curious to see how you make out with yours. Keep us posted, please. Tom Schuch SE

Re: [MBZ] RUF

2010-12-19 Thread E M
Manfred, I just dug out the old catalog. I can't see a print date on it, but it contains a few pages for the W201, so that would probably put it about '84 or so? The W123 section consists of 4 pages, with pictures of sedan, coupe, and wagon. They mention an improved brake package, and improved

Re: [MBZ] RUF

2010-12-19 Thread E M
Just had an idea. If you or someone could walk me quickly through how to attach photos, I could try to take a few pics of the catalog, and attach them here. Can I attach photos here, send, and then wait for admin approval before they're posted ? The pics I think are on average about 1.2 mb, but

Re: [MBZ] RUF

2010-12-19 Thread Mountain Man
Ed wrote: If you or someone could walk me quickly through how to attach photos... I see you are using gmail. If you are using the browser gmail - you will see a selection to 'Attach a file' and once you clik that, you browse to select the picture you want us to see. Try one picture, then we can

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