Re: [MD] Future of MOQ

Dear Ant Time is not something you have. Time is what you take yourself. :-) J-A > 28 maj 2020 kl. 05:03 skrev Ant McWatt : > > As I implied before Jan-Anders, you're asking the wrong person about this > issue! Though, as you stated, I agree that 'MOQ & Time' paper would be a > good

Re: [MD] Best Wishes to All of My Old Friends

an-Anders said: > > 'We know that the Corona issue is just another example of how the Mitosis vs > Meiosis works and defines the arise of the 3rd level. By giving examples to > the public we might be able to pay more attention to that.' > > ____________ >

Re: [MD] Best Wishes to All of My Old Friends

Ant > > P.S. Hope you enjoyed your European travels Krimel. Sorry you felt Horse & > me had betrayed you by revealing your 'real' name. But 'get real', do you > think anyone is THAT interested? > > > > > From: Moq_Discuss on beh

Re: [MD] Moq_Discuss Digest, Vol 147, Issue 6

btw Here’s more about my work: https://www.facebook.com/MoneyandtheArtofLosingControl/ Jan-Anders > 29 apr. 2020 x kl. 22:57 skrev Jan Anders Andersson : > > Hi all > > Funny enough I also have some experiences from Florida as I spent some time > by a friend in St. Petersb

Re: [MD] Moq_Discuss Digest, Vol 147, Issue 6

Hi all Funny enough I also have some experiences from Florida as I spent some time by a friend in St. Petersburg and Clearwater until I ended up in New Orleans by some strange Cajun women…. If you ever, by accident or what, find your self fooling around in Europe, in some Post-Corona period,

Re: [MD] Best Wishes to All of My Old Friends

Hello everyone of you MOQers Great that this line is still open! I am well, playing my accordion and working on the sequel of Money and the Art... best wishes to you all > 25 apr. 2020 kl. 21:42 skrev Dan Glover : > > Hello old friends, > > A couple years ago I sold everything, gave away

Re: [MD] Cover Art Help Needed

Mr Bartneck If you are interested in foreign issues I may be able to help you expand your collection. By the way. What do you think about Pirsig's work? all the best Jan-Anders Andersson > 23 nov. 2018 kl. 01:00 skrev list : > > Hello, > > I am making some progress in

Re: [MD] On Pirsig's letter to Paul Turner

Tukka > 17 juli 2016 kl. 15:59 skrev m...@tuukkavirtaperko.net: > > Dan, Adrie, all, > > Thanks for your replies. > > The question I'm asking is what do *we* use to identify pattern type. > First, take your time and use your experience to find out how you learned what you know already about

Re: [MD] On Pirsig's letter to Paul Turner

Dan, Tukka and others Any pattern has time, according to the 2nd law of Thermodynamics. Patterns at the inorganic level last for very long time. These patterns are quite stable. Anyway, the more complicated patterns, like Uranium, the more unstable in time it is. So much for elements.

Re: [MD] Still going (Irina)

Hi Irina and all About religions, where can we read something about faith of the gods? My guess is that they have nothing else than themselves to believe. Which means that their main message to humanity is, Selfconfidence. All the best or just Quality Jan-Anders > 18 feb. 2016 kl. 08:39 skrev

Re: [MD] still going?

Like mvh Jan-Anders Andersson > 31 jan 2016 x kl. 20:18 skrev Horse <ho...@darkstar.uk.net>: > > It's a shame that this mailing list can't be like Facebook (in some ways!!!) > with a like button at the bottom! :) > > Horse > > On 31/01/2016 16:39, david

Re: [MD] Two Minds

see why the social level must be between the biological and the intellectual and not beside the intellectual level. best regards Jan-Anders Andersson > 4 nov 2015 x kl. 18:46 skrev Austin Fatheree <austin.fathe...@gmail.com>: > > If things have been too quiet, let me throw

Re: [MD] Porn

;: > > J-A, > > Because talking about the un-talked about is an important task to take on, > sometimes? > > > > On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 8:18 PM, Jan-Anders Andersson <janander...@telia.com >> wrote: > >> Hi John >> >> >>>

Re: [MD] Porn

Hi John > 23 sep. 2015 kl. 00:09 skrev John Carl : > > I watched (or rather, listened to) a TED talk yesterday, that really > freaked me out. > > It was a guy talking about the effects of porn, upon the brain. > Especially upon the pre-frontal cortex - the thinkiest

Re: [MD] Fritz Bob

Hello There is a problem with ”God is man’s greatest idea”: No one is able to look inside any other’s brain. That means that no one can be sure about what the other’s idea about God is like. The idea about God pertains as an individual matter at the social level. Jan-Anders 26 jul 2015 x

Re: [MD] What is Art? (Philosophynow)

Hi Arlo, thanks for the tip. I once read a book called Motorcycle Maintenance” something, but I’ve never seen motorcycle maintenace performed as art. By the years I have seen some people losing control but I think it wasn’t regarded as a performance of art. Tomorrow a huge event called ”Open

Re: [MD] Julian Baggini: This is what the clash of civilisations is really about

Hi JC Doesn’t that show the dichotomy between a social moral, which is defined by a group excluding other groups, and the intellectual moral level, where scientific concepts are the same for any individual? The Zip Codes for New York City, The number of states in the USA, E=MC2,

Re: [MD] Paths To Dynamic Quality?

Hi Ron and all I am working sometimes with tuning instruments. The video here shows how it works on certain matters. https://youtu.be/1yaqUI4b974 The problem is that the patterns are NOT ONLY dependant of the frequency, but also depending of the matter, the density of the plate, the grain size

Re: [MD] Paths To Dynamic Quality?

Hi there gentlemen and gentlewomen In my last contribution I answered ngriffis that static patterns aren’t just static, they seem to go through some kind of transition from violent, dramatically changing hard-to-define in the short run, slowly changing into more environmentally cooperative and

Re: [MD] Responses to: Moq_Discuss Digest, Vol 112, Issue 4

Hi there Ngriffis There are conflicts between all levels. Biological-Physical, Social-Biological, Social-Intellectual etc. The important thing is to see how patterns are set by solving these kinds of conflicts in the long run. At the moment these kind of conflicts can be quite violent but in

Re: [MD] A Metaphysics of Quality Primer Website moq.is

Wow! This is somewhat in line with my intention with the unfinished step one, two, three but much more delightful. I think, that an instruction how to read this site would be useful for newcomers. It took me some time to find out that I should scroll down to get the message. Jan-Anders 8

Re: [MD] The myth ...

Awright Dan Jan-Anders 3 jan 2015 kl. 20:23 skrev Ron Kulp xa...@rocketmail.com: On Dec 23, 2014, at 12:02 AM, Dan Glover daneglo...@gmail.com wrote: Ron: Shakespeare answered That it is also the fear of death that makes it better to be than not to be. Then we have Socrates that

Re: [MD] What's valuable?

...@lists.moqtalk.org In response to Jan-Anders Andersson in Message 3, Moq_Discuss Digest, Vol 109, Issue 9 JA, What a marvelous little pearl you have given us! MOQ is not just a brain dance, it is a tool for making something good while you are alive. I will remember that and keep

Re: [MD] Fwd: Re: DMB on pure experience

Dear Nikolas Before you become an intolerant LEGO figure rampant. May I suggest that you take a look at my book Money and the Art of Losing Control. It is definitely NOT a book about have to behave normal or universal, but a novel based on some conclusions from Pirsig's metaphysics. It's free

[MD] Step one once again

All (or those of you that have read and understand LILA) For the understanding of the pattern of 4 levels and how they differ I found an interesting article. This is about step one, the step between level one and two, the inorganic, into the organic.

Re: [MD] What's valuable?

Well, David My first thought was music But what I mostly prefer is Titties Beer Cheers to womanity of the world! Jan-Anders 11 dec 2014 x kl. 12:33 skrev David Harding da...@goodmetaphysics.com: Hi All, Just wondering what folks on here think is valuable besides the MOQ itself? To

Re: [MD] What's valuable?

: Amazing. Second only to the MOQ you like biological things? The MOQ would say that is immoral. There are social and intellectual goods which are better. Anyone have anything worthwhile they value other than the MOQ itself? On 11 Dec 2014, at 10:39 pm, Jan Anders Andersson janander

Re: [MD] Fwd: What's valuable?

David Of course the phrase Titties Beer, which is the title of the piece of music by Frank Zappa I happened to be listening to while answering, at a first glance would sound somewhat blasphemic to the MOQ. But, living in a social constellation of several humans where women take a good part

Re: [MD] Test

Hi Horse :-) Jan-Anders 26 nov 2014 x kl. 12:17 skrev Horse ho...@darkstar.uk.net: Hi Again Had a message from one of our members indicating a problem with the list. If anyone out there can see this could you send in a post confirming please. Cheers Horse On 26/11/2014 11:12,

Re: [MD] Review of 'The Truth About Art'.

:44 skrev Dan Glover daneglo...@gmail.com: Jan-Anders, On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 6:36 AM, Jan-Anders Andersson janander...@telia.com wrote: Dan, Ant and whoever Im using createspace as a lowbudget printer. The paper, print and binding quality is high. The main advantage for me is that I

Re: [MD] Review of 'The Truth About Art'.

Dan, Ant and whoever Im using createspace as a lowbudget printer. The paper, print and binding quality is high. The main advantage for me is that I can order for just a dozen a time. That means that I dont have to pay out big for a ten-years stock piling up everywhere at home. btw Anyone

Re: [MD] Henry Miller's book Big Sur

Hi Dan and others Seen this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPJmm4_rcSU nice summary and references to both Bosch and Buddha hope you enjoy it Jan-Anders 17 maj 2014 x kl. 09:36 skrev Ant McWatt antmcw...@hotmail.co.uk: Dan, Many, many thanks for the additional biographical details

Re: [MD] Henry Miller Anaïs Nin

of Miller's 'Big Sur' (again thanks to Dan's recent recommendation), I was wondering if Nin was worth reading too... Ant Jan Anders Andersson wrote October 2nd: I am halfway through ”The Rosy Crucifixion” which I think is one of the projects Miller

Re: [MD] Zen and theArt of Religion

Oh my JA to Andre: My point was that we can beat something material with a stick but we can?t hit a concept at the intellectual level with a stick. Each level has its tools. To maintain a social motorcycle we have to use social ?sticks? and vice versa. Andre: What is a social

Re: [MD] Zen and theArt of Religion

Hi Andre Sorry about the delay. My point was that we can beat something material with a stick but we can’t hit a concept at the intellectual level with a stick. Each level has its tools. To maintain a social motorcycle we have to use social ”sticks” and vice versa. There is some ”spill” over

Re: [MD] Sociopathy (wasRe: Step Two)

. 21:10 skrev Ant McWatt antmcw...@hotmail.co.uk: On Aug 30, 2014, at 5:55 AM, Jan-Anders Andersson jananderses at telia.com wrote: Hit a shared attention. (Where is it? No sound. Hit the teamship of a football team. No response. Hit a religious faith. No response again. Ron

Re: [MD] MOQ is good. What is it good for?

Arlo 10 sep 2014 x kl. 22:57 ARLO JAMES BENSINGER JR wrote: [Arlo] I've always thought it would be neat to see everyone's concept map of who is in their personal circles (or even specific books/articles). For example, I am now about halfway through Henry Miller's Big Sur and the Oranges of

Re: [MD] Sociability Re-examined

Craig and Arlo [Craig, previously] Perhaps we should look for examples of social immorality: I promise to meet you, but don't meet up. We agree to meet, but I don't meet up. I intend to meet you (but don't promise to) I realize you recognize my intention, but don't meet up. You expect

Re: [MD] Zen and theArt of Religion

Andre Thanks for your suggestions. I am just tryin to find expressions that makes it easier to use in public, as to my wife and my brother for example. I am open for just anything that works. The metaphor with the stick is a variant I told Ant. If you can't find any better way to examine

Re: [MD] Analogues and metaphors, etc.

Great article David, thanks. Regarding the posiibilities for constructing a working selfconfident AI it is interesting how the concept of it self should be represented, if possible at all. Electronic and digital values are present in any electronic device. I must confess to the readers of my

Re: [MD] Zen and theArt of Religion

Hi there John and Andre Humour is one of the highest Values, (which maybe explains why dope smokers got so funny faces:). But anyone of you still can't hit one of these DEEP values with a stick nor talk to the stick. Aint that peculiar? Jan-Anders 4 sep 2014 kl. 19:13 Andre Broersen

Re: [MD] Sociopathy (wasRe: Step Two)

something else. Vote for a stick to be a member of the hockey team. ”I’m using the chicken to measure it” Jan-Anders 30 aug 2014 kl. 21:10 Ant McWatt wrote: On Aug 30, 2014, at 5:55 AM, Jan-Anders Andersson jananderses at telia.com wrote: Hit a shared attention. (Where is it? No sound

Re: [MD] Sociopathy (wasRe: Step Two)

Sure David 29 aug 2014 kl. 20:06 david dmbucha...@hotmail.comwrote: Jan-Anders said to John: I am just curious about our picture of the evolution seen through the MOQ magnifying glass. RMP says it began with level 1 the inorganic a while ago. Was the social level then? No. Is the

Re: [MD] Sociopathy (wasRe: Step Two)

Ant The main task is to objectively declare - How to hit the shared attention with a stick without nodding patterns of the biological level. JA 30 aug 2014 kl. 21:10 Ant McWatt wrote: On Aug 30, 2014, at 5:55 AM, Jan-Anders Andersson jananderses at telia.com wrote: Hit a shared attention

Re: [MD] Sociopathy (wasRe: Step Two)

each level, but between the levels? I thought that was more a code of art, than science. JC On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 12:48 PM, Jan-Anders Andersson janander...@telia.com wrote: Is that NSA code? John I am just curious about our picture of the evolution seen through the MOQ

Re: [MD] Sociopathy (wasRe: Step Two)

or what was the start? Can we discuss it together or what are you afraid of? Jan-Anders 27 aug 2014 kl. 20:19 skrev John Carl ridgecoy...@gmail.com: Jan-Anders, On 8/26/14, Jan Anders Andersson janander...@telia.com wrote: Yes There is a razor too, the dividing principle, known as ethic

Re: [MD] Step Two

Yes There is a razor too, the dividing principle, known as ethic betterness. The betterness of jumping into a superior level. So what Phaedrus was saying was that not just life, but everything, is an ethical activity. It is nothing else. When inorganic patterns of reality create life the

Re: [MD] Step Two

Corrected link.. http://open.spotify.com/track/0HOh8tT4hPM6RcwRzmA9OI 26 aug 2014 x kl. 23:17 skrev Jan Anders Andersson janander...@telia.com: Yes There is a razor too, the dividing principle, known as ethic betterness. The betterness of jumping into a superior level. So what Phaedrus

Re: [MD] Step two

David 24 aug 2014 x kl. 19:08 david dmbucha...@hotmail.com wrote: dmb said: These are not new ideas, really. ...It's a wide-spread and well-known way of thinking about our situation. Pirsig is giving us his own version but the basic categories really shouldn't be contentious or

Re: [MD] Step two

Good morning Dave and all 23 aug 2014 x kl. 23:55 david dmbucha...@hotmail.com wrote: There are no chains more vicious than the chains of biological necessity into which every child is born. Society exists primarily to free people from these biological chains. cannibalism, not

Re: [MD] Step two

Arlo and all This time I have to answer myself. The question about the mysterious 5th biological level has to be solved. 17 aug 2014 x kl. 22:09 Jan Anders Andersson janander...@telia.com wrote: Arlo I don’t think social patterns must consist of humans. Most animals and herbs are using

Re: [MD] Step two

Hi again 22 aug 2014 x kl. 12:50 Jan Anders Andersson janander...@telia.com wrote: Arlo and all This time I have to answer myself. The question about the mysterious 5th biological level has to be solved. 17 aug 2014 x kl. 22:09 Jan Anders Andersson janander...@telia.com wrote: Arlo

Re: [MD] Step two

Arlo [Jan Anders] I don’t think social patterns must consist of humans. Most animals and herbs are using sexual strategies to breed. [Arlo] Sexual strategies are biological, not social, so I am not sure how these two thoughts follow each other. And, no, like you I do not think the

Re: [MD] How would we know?

Dan In the 17th century Thomas Hobbes wrote: For such is the nature of men, that howsoever they may acknowledge many others (species) to be more witty, or more eloquent, or more learned; Yet they will hardly believe there be many so wise as themselves: For they see their own wit at hand, and

Re: [MD] Dr McWatt's advice to his unknown student from a remote spot of the world.

It sounds more like Lucy resurrected. Jan-Anders 18 aug 2014 x kl. 02:44 skrev Dan Glover daneglo...@gmail.com: Dear all, and especially Ant, I found this email in my box this morning. Apparently the sender meant to mark it for moq.discuss but put my email address on it by mistake. It is

Re: [MD] Step two

Arlo I don’t think social patterns must consist of humans. Most animals and herbs are using sexual strategies to breed. Celebrity is to social patterns as sex is to biological patterns. Now he was getting it. This celebrity is Dynamic Quality within a static social level of evolution. It

Re: [MD] similar to ZAMM/Phaedrus/Pirsig?

Hi Alyosha I’d suggest my book ”Money and the Art of Losing Control”. It is a story built on ZAMM and Lila… You can find it both as ebook and paperback at various places. Just google on the title. best wishes Jan-Anders 15 aug 2014 x kl. 17:51 skrev alyo...@bostoncoop.net: Hi there --

Re: [MD] Welcome to Horse's MOQ Wild West Saloon Bar

Ant, While Henry Miller wrote about sex pretty well but as a mere Romantic issue, I was writing about sex more from a Classic perspective, with the object/subject of a minor importance. Perverted or no, sex is a strong urge affecting anyones daily life. Those who deny it are liars. A

Re: [MD] Step two

Thanks for that piece of chewing gum Arlo. I’ll put ”shared attention” on my to-do list. btw Football and other team sports can be considered as instruments for evaluating social patterns of ”shared attention”, isn’t it? Jan-Anders 12 aug 2014 x kl. 09:54 skrev ARLO JAMES BENSINGER JR

Re: [MD] Henry Miller, Philosophy Sex

Huh?? http://www.suehepworth.com/2013/03/henry-miller-did-not-marry-marilyn.html Jan-Anders 12 aug 2014 x kl. 14:38 skrev Ant McWatt antmcw...@hotmail.co.uk: Too right, Jan. No doubt Henry Miller's understanding of the point you explain below is why - not at a particular young age - he

Re: [MD] Welcome to Horse's MOQ Wild West Saloon Bar

Got that already, Arlo. Quite romantic, sort of antology so I don’t rely too much to it. There are one interesting dichotomy here however, besides the classic/romantic. Erotica are often based on taboos and the eliminating of taboos. Pictures of nude people are one example of taboo

Re: [MD] Step two

Yes Arlo 12 aug 2014 x kl. 16:04 ARLO JAMES BENSINGER JR ajb...@psu.edu wrote: [Jan-Anders] Football and other team sports can be considered as instruments for evaluating social patterns of ”shared attention”, isn’t it? [Arlo] I'm not exactly sure of what you mean by evaluating. Taking

Re: [MD] Step two

you read Big Sur... I am halfway into The Tropic of Cancer. I downloaded Sexus but haven't started it yet. Looking forward to it now. Thank you, Dan http://www.danglover.com On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 7:26 AM, Jan Anders Andersson janander...@telia.com javascript:; wrote: Hi all or am I

Re: [MD] Step two

. The state, the nation, the united nations of the world, were nothing but one great aggregation of individuals who repeated the mistakes of their forefathers.” p 283 Again Jan-Anders 7 aug 2014 x kl. 10:43 skrev Jan Anders Andersson janander...@telia.com: Hi all again Its going to the end

Re: [MD] Step two

Hi all again Its going to the end of the summer again. I have done some research and I have come to the conclusion that the beginning of step two is when two or more organical ”items benefit from cooperation instead of striving for themselves. It could be by symbiosis, or organisms with

Re: [MD] A message for John Carl

Hi friends At the social level there are two versions of criticism: Destructive criticism and constructive. Destructive criticism works like this: You think so and therefore you are an idiot. Leaves the subject in an antagonistic mood and replies with arguments of more destructive

Re: [MD] Step two

Ron 13 jul 2014 kl. 00:20 skrev Ron Kulp xa...@rocketmail.com: My thoughts today is this: Some of the simplest social patterns are those that can be found among biological patterns that benefits by cooperation with other molecular machines. Ron sez: Atoms are more stable when they

Re: [MD] Step two

Thanks Ant. I think the step for static patterns from biological into social patterns would be more easy to track than detecting where the sensed time begins. Sensed time must be present for example for inorganic ingredients in chemical reactions, like the combustion in an engine, to work

[MD] Step two

Thanks Arlo for this summary. I think its now time for discussing step two. The second step in the intellectual journey up the levels. Inability to understand the levels causes a lot of confusion here. We all know that the rules for participation in this forum is at least that you have read

[MD] Step three

Hi Arlo 7 jul 2014 x kl. 22.40 wrote ARLO JAMES BENSINGER JR: [Jan-Anders] When we have done step two clear we can go on to the next step: step three. The understanding of the evolutionary step from the social level into the intellectual level. [Arlo] I think a critical consideration

Re: [MD] Post-Intellectualism

Andre and John The rules for football evolved in the 19th century. At the beginning football actually was a war, a competition held on sundays between the young boys of the villages. The goal was to kick the ball onto the opponents church or municipal building for ex. There were no limits

Re: [MD] The MOQ Handbook for Drugs - PART 1

for researching such issues. In other words, he knows what he's talking about in this particular regard, I don't! Best wishes, Ant Jan Anders Andersson responded to Ant McWatt's last MD post, June 14th 2014: I think drugs are ok as long as you also accept that your dentist, your doctor

Re: [MD] The MOQ Handbook for Drugs - PART 1

of the Dynamic, Static pattern breaking temporary psychosis is the theme. Some argue that it was these rites Which indeed ARE evolutionary processes. I think RMPs work is based in this theme. -Ron On Jun 15, 2014, at 12:29 PM, Jan Anders Andersson janander...@telia.com wrote: Sorry Ant

Re: [MD] The MOQ Handbook for Drugs - PART 1

Hi All I think drugs are ok as long as you also accept that your dentist, your doctor or your lawyer are stoned while assisting you. Jan-Anders 14 jun 2014 kl. 12:59 skrev Ant McWatt antmcw...@hotmail.co.uk: This one is for Terence, Ken, Timothy, Bill and... very sadly... Eddie too.

Re: [MD] Arlo

Yes Arlo, The Romantic/Classic dichotomy can't be applied to the left/right halves of the brain. Just as it can't be applied to the difference between left/right hand capabilities. Some left-handed people's right hand are more sensible and useful than right-handed people's left hand and vice

Re: [MD] Anti-intellectualism revisited

cakpdw3k7jk_dy6dk-cmvfblkzzk6yxfjjixj1qnpnm7ohjw...@mail.gmail.com snt148-w5542eb98d506dcd475809eda...@phx.gbl cak6fb8myjpe1pxpmsfjemxacaqbpuju21nyqzqvvqxmnmz6...@mail.gmail.com To: moq_disc...@moqtalk.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Hi Dan and others who happen to like Kurt Vonnegut. After

Re: [MD] Arlo

Arlo and John 5 jun 2014 kl. 17:19 skrev ARLO JAMES BENSINGER JR ajb...@psu.edu: [John] Well clearly I was being ironic. I don't think that differentiaion is bad. [Arlo] Who said differentiation is bad? What you're doing is the reductio ad absurdum, by suggesting that because Pirsig

Re: [MD] Anti-intellectualism revisited

. Dont forget to read Lila once again. Best wishes Jan-Anders 3 jun 2014 x kl. 21.56 skrev John Carl: Hey Jan Anders, On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 12:32 AM, Jan Anders Andersson janander...@telia.com wrote: Hi Ron, and this is also for John In a MOQ view, the intellectual level carries concepts

Re: [MD] Anti-intellectualism revisited

Hi Ron, and this is also for John In a MOQ view, the intellectual level carries concepts that are dependent of the social level to be expressed but using the social level for its own purposes. Concepts are not dependant on individuals, names and words, formulas and just any intellectual

Re: [MD] Anti intellectualism as a traditional American value

Great idea. Looking forward for that post Ron Jan-Anders 23 maj 2014 kl. 19:44 skrev Ron Kulp xa...@rocketmail.com: I would like to preface this thread by making it known that I am taking up this project as the dialectical devils advocate that devil being John Carl. In this thread I

[MD] System 1 vs System 2

Good morning fellows Here are an author that have received The Sveriges Riksbank Prize in Economic Sciences in Memory of Alfred Nobel, (no it is NOT the Nobel Prize in Economy because that doesn't exist): David Kahneman, who have written a book called Thinking, Fast and Slow

Re: [MD] System 1 vs System 2

in the media is increasingly wrong, but his work itself is very good. Lots of good parallels between 1 2 and MoQism, SOMism takes on intellect, backed-up with scientific evidence. Ian On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 9:44 AM, Jan Anders Andersson janander...@telia.com wrote: Good morning fellows

Re: [MD] System 1 vs System 2

15, 2014 at 9:55 AM, Jan Anders Andersson janander...@telia.com wrote: Yes Ian But I didn't find anything about DANIEL Kahneman here on MD. Are you prepared for system 3? Jan-Anders 15 maj 2014 x kl. 10.49 skrev Ian Glendinning: Written about Kahneman several times. http

Re: [MD] System 1 vs System 2

. 11.23 skrev Ian Glendinning: Kahneman (4th post of the day) Ian On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 10:21 AM, Jan Anders Andersson janander...@telia.com wrote: ail.com To: moq_disc...@moqtalk.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) What words are you searching? I tried system 1 and found System

Re: [MD] The Way It Is

exactly. Jan-Anders, God's proxy for tonight. 3 apr 2014 x kl. 21.05 skrev John Carl: Hi J-A, On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 1:33 PM, Jan-Anders Andersson janander...@telia.comwrote: Hi there Before the Big Bang or should we say at the oldest point of change number one, there was absolute

Re: [MD] The Way It Is

Hi there Before the Big Bang or should we say at the oldest point of change number one, there was absolute nothing, no world or time. After change number one there is a piece of world which is all there is. This world has age, entropy and volume and measure, so My guess is that some of the

Re: [MD] Rights as Values

Amen (in the name of Reason) Jan-Anders 5 mar 2014 kl. 00:31 skrev david dmbucha...@hotmail.com: John McConnell said to Ant McWatt, March 4th 2014 (off-line): There’s no point igniting a God-bomb in that bunch of theophobes on MD. Here at least you and I understand each other.

Re: [MD] Step two

Dan 22 feb 2014 kl. 05:45 skrev Dan Glover daneglo...@gmail.com: Jan and John, On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 12:26 PM, John Carl ridgecoy...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 10:58 PM, Jan Anders Andersson janander...@telia.com wrote: Good morning all I think it's time to summarize

[MD] Step two

Good morning all I think it's time to summarize the former thread called step one. I was asking for the exact definition of the delimiter between the inorganic level and the organic level. Dan and David put in some interesting read wether DNA was the most important or if a speculative and

Re: [MD] Step one

Hi Gents, (any Ladies?) In our work to refine the metaphysics of Quality I think we must use the element of time here. Actually, we are talking about step two, as step one should be the first step from where there where no Organic patterns at all, before the first change, into the moment after

Re: [MD] 42

Hi John You're lucky. I had some promo codes left so here are your ticket to a free copy on the itunes ibookstore: R4E47KMYYA76 Happy reading! Jan-Anders 30 jan 2014 x kl. 19.16 skrev John Carl: Jan-Anders, You said in response to my discussion with Dan: That was the reason for me

Re: [MD] The World Without Us

404530.19410.yahoomail...@web162101.mail.bf1.yahoo.com 1366255586.20177.yahoomail...@web162104.mail.bf1.yahoo.com 1366330824.17153.yahoomail...@web162102.mail.bf1.yahoo.com 1366331013.17129.yahoomail...@web162106.mail.bf1.yahoo.com 1367946845.39374.yahoomail...@web162104.mail.bf1.yahoo.com

Re: [MD] Step one

Andre 1 feb 2014 kl. 08:45 skrev Andre andrebroer...@gmail.com: J-A: How can we describe the difference between moral 1, the inorganic, and moral 2 the organic? Andre: My guess is that the inorganic level is 'informed' by the morals of the laws of (quantum)physics, My guess is

Re: [MD] Step one

Nice work Andre. Selfperpetuating sounds as an elementary difference. Where does these annotations comw from? 30 jan 2014 kl. 18:16 skrev Andre andrebroer...@gmail.com: Jan-Anders: By inspiration from Andre I'll suggest that we start a discussion about how to define the difference

Re: [MD] Step one

Well Ian, Lila is an inquiry about morals. Please notice the last letter s. That means that RMP was pointing at more than one moral level. So what are the moral like at level 1 and at level 2? Just curious but still serious Jan-Anders 31 jan 2014 kl. 14:23 skrev Ian Glendinning

Re: [MD] Step one

, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Jan-Anders Andersson janander...@telia.com wrote: Well Ian, Lila is an inquiry about morals. Please notice the last letter s. That means that RMP was pointing at more than one moral level. So what are the moral like at level 1 and at level 2? Just curious but still serious

Re: [MD] Step one

We all her know that it is a difference, Adam and the clay is way of a romantic expression of the difference but how should a classical person describe it? A precise definition of the difference might be useful when we are talking to a complete novice for example. Inorganic patterns have a

Re: [MD] 42

Hi John 28 jan 2014 kl. 19:02 skrev John Carl ridgecoy...@gmail.com: Dan, John prev: But it's interesting to consider that the over all plan for the human, doesn't come from on top It comes from it's DNA and like wise the city's overall plans comes from the dreams and ideas of

Re: [MD] 42

Hi Andre Sorry about your inconvenience but MALC is my 400 pages comment to ZAMM and Lila. I just happen to mention the mystic behind the number 42 in it, too. But my solution to that is to add Quality to it which makes it 43. :-) Which is what I think RMP would suggest. i e How can Quality be

[MD] Step one

By inspiration from Andre I'll suggest that we start a discussion about how to define the difference between level one, the inorganic and level two, the organic. I couldn't find any consistent thread in the Archives. Jan-Anders Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc.

  1   2   3   4   5   >