and for the
benefit of all it's time to work for an equitable solution. And
further, when did this town throw the code book out the window?
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in number. It's thrilling
to see and hear them circling the Holiday Inn.
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On 7/26/04 3:41 PM, Michael Atherton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Here is my basic point: If people are unwilling to respect the rights
and
choices of others when it has no direct impact on them, how are they
likely to
do so in circumstances involving personal risk? That is, if you
? My choice to go to Country bars has been taken away
from me by country music!
Dan McGrath
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should be
to protect individuals liberties from governments.
Non smokers have always had smoke-free venues to visit, but they are greedy,
and want everywhere to be just the way they would like it. Now, smokers will
have no public venues. Anti-smokers are anti-choice, anti-freedom (lately).
Dan McGrath
Such abusive language, and a very well crafted response, as well!
Dan
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Non smokers have always had smoke-free
this draconian breach of liberties, and property rights, and what's to stop
the next one?
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Be careful. Make that outdoor smokers patio too nice, and the anti-smokers
will want it for themselves too. They'll kick the smokers out of there with
a new outdoor patio smoking ban, so they can sit comfortably outdoors with
their drinks too!
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Also, knitting the urban economy into the bioregion sounds like sci-fi
jibberish (no offence intended), like reverse the polarity of the neutron
flow, so, again, forgive my lack of familiarity with these terms. What is
the bioregion, and how do we weave our urban economy into it?
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cafe's and the
like. One can presume this includes patios.
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superintendents, and vast corruption, and bureauocracy.
What's with all the intolerance in this city anyway? Everybody wants to ban
something. What a bunch of touchy whiners we've become. Live and let live,
eh?
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in society today. There are bad guys out there. Go get
them, and lock them up! This city has gotten progressively worse over the
past two decades. See a pattern here?
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to, who issues the citations? Does a
computer just spit them out, or does a person review the shots taken by the
camera? Who charges the suspect? A photo or video is evidence, not an
indictment. That said, I'm not opposed to the idea, but Big Brother is
watching still gives me the willies!
Dan
all off? I was in heaven. I was driving limo at the time, and
on the road constantly. The only other time traffic ran so smooth was during
the transit strikes.
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to scare scared kids into going to
the place they are afraid to go?
Some random (and mostly rhetorical as well) musings
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how she'd been discriminated against! Well, good job, 1st Precinct
judges. No fraud on their watch.
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cannot fathom how
anything Sabri is involved in could be good for the neighborhood.
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For state
be made for smokers to assemble in an establishment of their own making to
freely enjoy this legal social activity?
The arrogant and overbearing nature of these smoking bans should frighten anyone.
Smokers and non-smokers alike. What's next?
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. The open program is set up in
part for a student to find their own structure, and if it's not reinforced
by other students and the family, there can be trouble.
Dan Replies:
I am also the victim... er... product of South High's Open program. I agree
completely that South's open program WAS an excellent
with it. Which,
I suppose could explain her behavior...
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in an effort to pack
more bodies on the train, as they can't drive the corridor anymore without
giving themselves a stroke from the stress. Seriously, though, who
engineered the timing of the lights on Hiawatha? Anybody know?
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Immobilizing one's vehicle is probably a good way to mobilize it's owner to
pay up. I'm not saying I'm in favor of that either. Just an observation.
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This plan sounds to me like it will discourage businesses from providing
adequete parking. That's probably an intended consequence, but a terrible
idea. We already have severe parking shortages in many areas, which cause
parking over-flow into residential neighborhoods.
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violators.
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This topic interests me primarily because I
would like to see the impound lot reduce in size -
and then have the impound lot section west of
the planned Van White Blvd converted into public
park land. However, I am not sure if this Council
measure
a new idea for transit?
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anything, roads are
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could be set up to make
calls with pre-recorded messages, like political candidates use.
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of the increase in my property taxes goes to
the city. Dear Mr. Mayor, and City Council, STOP SPENDING SO MUCH! I can't
afford it!
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. Here's a link providing a list of scores of independent and family
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Wishing First Avenue all the best of luck.
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property rights and liberties. For a business,
the principle is the same.
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Dan Trying to force ones view on everyone else is fascism.
Godwin's Law is an adage in
Internet culture that was originated by Mike Godwin in 1990. The law
states that:
As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a
comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one
. Should never be
performed in public. Keep it in your home.
The idea that ETS, or STS is harmful has been largely debunked by reputable
scientists, untainted by policitcal agenda, and predetermined outcomes.
Everyone's freedom for your comfort.
Dan McGrath
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. This town is run by the DFL. There is no disputing
that. Even the opposition (Green) is left-wing. So, where is the real
opposition?
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This will be interesting to watch. Anybody else remember Yellow Bicycles?
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, rattling my windows.
Really. It sounds like bombs going off outside my house. Now horns too?!
Forget about state and local funding. The feds must be opposed in this.
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for it itself), an
Eco-Industrial Center expansion, a billion other
feel-good-accomplish-nothing-worthless programs, and now, MINI GOLF?!
(*[EMAIL PROTECTED]) the net benefit to me: I can't afford my house anymore.
Thanks.
Keep up the good work.
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that?
One issue that we should tease out from the outrage is how much of
what people see as waste is actually money that could be used for some
other purpose. Dan is outraged by the car-sharing experiment. But
does the money going into this project take away from something else?
Yes. It takes
are. Just let them do their job, and give
them the resources they need to do it.
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of people in the neighborhood. They are known criminals,
but they continue to escape prosecution, or are given such light sentances
that their cycle of criminal activity isn't noticibly interrupted.
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So far, we have Rybak (DFL), and McLaughlin (DFL) running for mayor. Have
any other candidates of note stepped up to the plate yet? I need a third
option!
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. They choose
to. Hmmm.
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another revenue source, and
the smoking ban will hurt the tax base, leaving even less in the pot. Bars
will suffer losses, people will be laid off. Businesses will close. Life
will go on, but our city and our freedom will be diminished.
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Absolutely 100% agree. This is silly. If leaf-blowers need any regulating,
it's just to prohibit their operation in the middle of the night, but noise
ordinances already cover that. See how many landscaping companies will do
business in Minneapolis if they can't use leaf-blowers!
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regressive to me these days.
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(Do I need to start a pro-blower site now too?)
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For the life
of policing for revenue. Why would anyone think red-light
cameras would be any different?
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positive to say about the cameras, and that was from Canada.
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Though saying
!
Disgusting.
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If I were running for Park Board, I could not ask for a better
,
and they have been moved away from houses, so what's the problem here?
Global Warming, I bet. All that wasted fuel! Evil giant trucks!!! Just like
SUVs, but bigger!!! Let a guy make a living already.
Dan McGrath
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from booms that sound like bombs going off from the railroad operations at the
elevators along Hiawatha. I don't like waking up to it at 3:00-4:00 in the
morning, but I understand that the work has to be done.
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It is my understanding that folks
refrigeration. I guess Minneapolis wants to
be a leader in a bold new adventure in food poisoning.
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Noah Schuchman posted the following on Gary Schiff's Behalf:
From Council Member Gary Schiff:
To set the record straight: I never told Dan McGrath that all truckers
should get out of the City, a sentiment he attributed to me 2/5/05.
Here's what I had posted:
I wrote Gary Schiff about the issue
we pay to use the roads our taxes already paid for!?
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and North Carolina.
Many many on this list, despite this information still enthusiastically
support the cameras. Apparently in Minneapolis, making money for the city is
more important than protecting the citizens.
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. That's precedent. What's next?
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DG:
Dan asks what's next...cell phones! Would love to see those ban when
driving.
Minneapolis has the word ban too firmly implanted in the front of our
collective minds. Everyone seems to think that their pet-peeves should be
eliminated by ordinance. I see the word ban on this list so often
they have historically, I suppose.
Dakota County is looking like a good place to open a bar or resturant.
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limits in the range of 40-55 MPH.
By the way, we already have personal rapid transit. It's called the
automobile.
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Dan McGuire wrote:
I still think that the light rail and the planning, or lack of it,
is taking more blame than is due for the delays on Hiawatha. I've been
driving it regularly for almost twenty years. Light rail is only one of
the changes that has happened in recent years to impact
it is those modes of transit which should be completely funded
by user fees.
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Actually, I had thought I had noticed an improvement, but I just chalked it
up to a streak of good luck. Maybe they've actually accomplished something
positive. I find it hard to believe after all this time, but stranger things
have happened.
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Are you
Listers,
Let us pledge to ourselves that we will never, never, never build
another new public library if it means we have to put any books in
storage for years. I am so tired of being frustrated by books put on ice
so we could build on the same spot I could kick the seeds out of a pickle!
I
second that. How much will it cost to replace a perfectly functional (and
relatively modern) library? How many police officers wouldn't have to be cut
if that money was spent more wisely?
Oops. Forgot neighborhood last post. Sorry.
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Jeffers, Stub and Herb's
Dan McGrath
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The sham that economic devastation will result from smoking bans has been
shattered by all experience, just as their success has been ensured by
health and safety regulations that inspire
want a place I can smoke, but don't advocate requring
businesses to allow smoking just to cater to my tastes. Let the market work
out where smoking is and isn't allowed, and no-one's rights are infringed,
and everyone can find their own comfortable places.
Dan McGrath
Longfellow
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establishment which serves anything to eat or
drink, including water and packaged candy bars! Even a vending machine! If
they want to continue on as a smoke shop, they have to ditch everything
else.
Watch out. Salt is next up to be banned, and fat food is next up for new
taxes.
Dan McGrath
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http
Italian Delicatessen
27 S. 7th St. (Dayton - Radisson Arcade)
612 333-4230
Victor's 1959 Cafe 3756 Grand Ave 612 827-8948
Viva Mexico Cafe 1900 University Av NE 612 781-3890
Zeno Cafe, Dessert Wine Bar 2919 Hennepin Ave S 612 746-4170
Dan McGrath
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as the ban
is in place. As a club with a cover, they don't allow re-entry. My once
favorite night-spot now sucks. Hope all you anti-smokers get out there for
techno DJs and punk rock this weekend! I'll be in St. Paul.
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collapse, but not until irreversable harm
has been done to many people's livlihoods. Go into the bars around NE, and
ask the owners what your position should be!
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to accomodate their preference.
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nothing to do with it. It's people. Ordinary concerned
citizens like myself, and the bar owners and workers who's livlihoods are on
the line.
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no perception of safety
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There have also been reports of assaults on smokers outside of bars. Smokers
(and everyone), be aware of your surroundings. If you're out on the town and
step outside, do so in groups. Be careful.
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if they have an enclosed patio
area (fenced in), and a special license from the city.
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is a health issue just like a smoking ban.
Complete story:
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The channel guide in St. Paul
company?
While I'm ranting on the subject of telecom, the city investing in Wi-Fi is
a terrible idea. The technology changes almost daily. Leave it to commercial
ventures, or we'll end up spending gobs of our tax dollars on a worthless
dinosaur.
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can keep?
How much money is enough money to run a city?
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residents. This would guarantee that our government
would never grow beyond our ability to pay for it. The same should be done
at all levels of government.
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David Shove writes:
Or a Wealth Tax. Tax not just income
grid looks to be in good shape! Fine thinking from our city council.
That's better than electric cars, isn't it? If won't cost a dime!
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put them off), bump up the
merchandise mark-ups, raise ticket prices a tad, and maybe (heaven forbid)
cut back on player payroll to privately finance this commercial venture?
The change in my couch is already earmarked. I have to use it to buy food
sometimes. I need it more than the Twins do.
Dan
the
city's needs as a whole in choosing an endorsee.
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through my house! I
don't think it's buyers doing the shooting.
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It appears that I was mistaken about Gary Schiff's involvement in the leaf
blower ban issue. My apologies to Gary and the Minneapolis Issues Forum
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fudging their sales figures?
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Boycott the ACS http://www.nycclash.com/ACSBoycott.html
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This is a real problem I've observed for some time. Solution: Turn off the
meters!
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That's the typical result of greed. When you try to have it all, you end up
with nothing.
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you think
that were voluntarily smoke-free
before the ban was implemented. 50. There were choices.
Presently, we have choices between vegetarian restaurants, and those which
serve meat. In the interest of public health, when will that choice be taken
away from us? When do all restaurants go meat-free?
Dan
the conclusion that it makes no difference.
Anyhow, have a drink to Rybak, Schiff, Lilligren, Ostrow, Gordon, Hofstede,
Johnson, Samuels, Goodman, Glidden, Remington, Benson, Colvin-Roy and Hodges
(while you still can).
Dan McGrath
Longfellow
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like they've won the lottery. As our services are
cut, our taxes go up WAY beyond the rate of inflation. They are learning to
do less with more. Where does all the money go?!
Dan McGrath
Longfellow
http://www.shegstad.us
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involvement with Zimmerman's
run-in with the FBI? He was front and center with that event. I'm a little
curious.
Positive campaign. Right.
Dan McGrath
Longfellow
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I'm not a lawyer, but I think some list members are missing the point of
the state law that was referenced yesterday. I believe the intent of the
law is not to restrict political speech, but to provide candidates with
blanket permission to display lawn signs, without violating existing (and
of one passenger as unusual. Authorities searched the
plane and a bomb dog alerted on on plane. The bomb squad found nothing, and the
detained passenger was allowed to go on his or her way.
Dan Browing
Reporter
Star Tribune
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of the Hennepin
County Assessor. To learn more about estimated market values and the
appeals process, go to:
http://www.co.hennepin.mn.us/assessor/assessor.htm
Dan Kenney
Hale Neighborhood
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on net income for Minneapolis
office building owners:
http://www.mncn.org/bp/TFv3n3.pdf
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Hale Neighborhood
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From: Paul Lohman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 11:51:08 -0600
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Mpls] The Amazing News - Linda Picone let go from SWJ
I've received some
democratic butts.
Dan Nordley
Cooper
Center for Neighborhoods board
Neighborhood newspaper publisher
Biz owner
-The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.
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Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 07:40:20 -0600
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I think Paul meant for this to go to the whole list serve, but it just came
to my address:
Thanks to Dan Nordley for his response to James Jacobsen's comments about
neighborhood organizations. I read James post and didn't quite know where
to start. Crabbiness, to quote Nordley, seems
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